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Survive the strongest. Russian martial arts in our blood

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Few people wondered why today we need combat skills and knowledge, for what purpose we are engaged in them. Of course, this in no way concerns those people who, by the nature of their professional activities, are obligated to do this, no, we are talking about us - mere mortals.

When you start asking about it for those who do it just like that, for yourself, then you get an unequivocal answer - you just like it. Where does this love for this occupation come from?

Each person perceives martial arts in his own way: some as a hobby, others as a desire for security, but almost everyone has one common external enemy factor, and most often it’s a street. No one is immune from falling into an extreme situation. And if this is called a dangerous work for security officers, for which they prepare, they train, then for most people who are engaged in martial arts, such extreme situations are the only way to stand up for yourself, not to be beaten and humiliated.

After all, each of us, whether he is a doctor, a programmer or a special forces fighter, is exposed in life to the same risk and danger.

Studying the pages of the Russian chronicle works, it is simply impossible not to marvel at the courage and courage of our ancestors, when an enemy stood in front of them, tens of times better than him numerically.

For many centuries Mother Russia has produced a natural selection of such people who could defend themselves and therefore did not die, but survived, in order then to transfer their own specific skills to their descendants, and not only that. Their predisposition to combat skills and knowledge was also part of the inherited inheritance, which, as a living chain of knowledge, passed from one generation to another, and finally reached us, their descendants today.

And today it is time for us to think about what we will pass on to our children, what responsibility will fall on their shoulders.

Genetics is a “great” science, and it is she who always says that information is transmitted from generation to generation at the gene level. In this case, this is the information that has helped a particular family survive, which is already manifested in our children, highlighting their interests and predispositions. And we, their ancestors, need to be traced as long as we can, so that it is the most important predispositions and skills that are strengthened, and the minor ones themselves, over time, gradually step back and quietly die away.

On a subconscious level in Russian, the types of Russian dances, folk games, such concepts as beauty and honesty, various methods of armed as well as unarmed struggle with their enemies are sleeping.

And it is for such people that there is a program for teaching Russian martial arts, which has as its goal self-education. The main thing in this program is the knowledge of one’s roots, the deepening of one’s knowledge in such directions as a folk song, language, dances, prayers, fairy tales, games, lives of our saints, stories heroes, army, state history, household, etc.

For hand-to-hand combat, the entire structure of Russian life served as a motive base, which provided certain skills and abilities for fighting and promoted good health. It was impossible then to walk three times a week for training, there was no time, and it was necessary to somehow exist. It was necessary to fish, hunt, work around the house, sometimes fight - that’s the whole training. And the motor base was created as a result of natural household movements, for example, bending a thick branch, brushing thin branches with a hand, etc. And today you can engage in any activity, work in production, play sports, hunt, fish, etc., the main thing is to always be in motion, not lie on the couch and talk aloud about hand-to-hand combat techniques. All this together can be called such generalizing concepts as tourism, life and work in the country.

The impetus for the revival of the forgotten Russian style in the martial arts were the difficult years of the Great Patriotic War. It was the use of the Russian style that helped the Soviet soldiers emerge victorious from many hopeless situations.

Few people know that back in the distant 1945 year, only ten paratroopers, led by Captain V. Leonov, were able to capture six thousand soldiers of the Kwantung Army, but this, and not only, history is silent.

The reason for this is the fact that after the victory, the Russian martial arts were hidden behind the high walls of special schools, in which they prepared saboteurs. Therefore, for a long time this national treasure was practically hidden from the people.

Training in martial art is a complex multi-factor system, using various methods and means that are aimed at the physical development of a fighter and are intended to prepare him for a fight with one or many opponents. At the same time, the development of all physical qualities in the practice of martial arts is an integral part of a single training process, which is organically intertwined with tactical and technical training, as well as the development of mental qualities.

One of the main means of development, and later improvement of physical abilities and qualities - this is physical exercise. In order to successfully practice martial arts, you must have a very high level of development of many physical qualities, such as strength, speed, agility, flexibility, and also have a high level of special endurance.

The specific meaning of training in martial arts is, ultimately, training in such motive techniques and actions that reflect the characteristics and specificity of this particular type of Russian martial art.

These are percussion techniques with legs and hands, continuous combinations that combine multilevel efforts, and, most importantly, high-speed linear-circular strikes with all parts of the arms and legs, starting with fingers, fists, elbows, shoulders, and ending with feet, knees, hips.

In today's turbulent times, group attacks are ubiquitous, which is why Russian martial arts devote so much attention to the tactics of actions taken against a large group, as well as psychological and technical features in such a fight. Only those who are more prepared psychologically can expect to be able to survive in an extreme situation.

Combined melee combat is an order of magnitude more effective in self-defense than martial arts that specialize in unarmed combat. Indeed, it is much easier to slaughter a person than to beat them with bare fists. For a man who was brought up in the traditions of Russian martial art, it was quite natural to be armed.

The knife was originally part of a traditional military Russian costume. Russian fighter has always been with weapons, which meant one thing: if an attack was being prepared against him, then the one who attacked knew that he would definitely deal with an armed man, and therefore, he himself was armed.

With a high probability, such a conflict could always end in the death of someone, and any man understood this. And the proximity of death made every Russian, and in those days the words Russian and a warrior carried one meaning, sensual to all the divine. Therefore, while the man was brought up in military culture, the true Orthodox faith was strong in Russia. To be Russian always meant to be both a warrior and an Orthodox.

To Russian martial art include such areas, which are based on the ethnographic reconstruction of martial arts like Skobar - Slavic-Goretskaya struggle, Tver bouza, etc.

There are quite original among them, but there are also many homegrown ones, which are only a semi-literate demonstration of power, a kind of mixture of kick-boxing and power struggle. Some of them proved their involvement in “Russianness” with the help of rituals and clothes, which more resembled a farce, others had some special, supposedly Russian, manner of movement, but the real Russian martial arts are reconstructed to date such fights as fist or stenosh, Russian buza and others.

Russian martial arts quickly gained popularity in very narrow circles, but among professionals it was not immediately recognized. Today there are practically no official competitions in Russian battles, however, representatives of Russian martial arts perform in mixed styles.

You can easily identify the so-called Russian style - by the basic technique, which basically consists of several of the following elements: getting into the correct plane for a strike, unbalancing the opponent and possibly finishing it.

In classes on Russian martial arts, close attention is paid to the study of history, Russian culture, as well as the art of gun ownership.

In Russia, initially there were a lot of fighting men's games, the most important of which are “wolves and hunters”, developing a sense of battle distance, “daisy” - for leaving in group fights, as well as the notions of “back” in battle, leapfrog, “blind with a whip or a whip ", wrestling, football with a tennis ball, etc.

Combative folk dances - “Russian dance”, Komarinskaya, ryazanochka - dancing with weapons, mistress, crouching are no less interesting and relevant.

Remember, earlier in the school there were TRP norms, and now our young people are not suitable for anything, either for work or defense, therefore a powerful complex exercise is exactly what controls a person's physical condition.

You can immediately check yourself, considering how many pushups you can do.

If the rate is low, then you need to start working in such a way as not to become a burden for your loved ones, moreover, to become their protector.

Here are some tips for doing the right thing.

One of the most important things to learn for those who will study on their own, without a mentor, is control over the loads being taken, otherwise only harm and no benefit will be. To do this, you need to grope around the neck of the adolescent and calculate the pulse per minute.

It is better to be engaged from 10 to 13 hours, and also from 17 to 20 hours - at this particular time the body is as ready as possible for the loads. The room must be ventilated.

Start and finish classes need to gradually.

You need to sleep an odd number of hours, and then nerve cells and protein will be restored most productively.

Eat better twice a day, doing one day a week unloading.

Adhering to these recommendations, and most importantly, doing everything with passion and enthusiasm, and not by force, you can create your own stereotype of a real Russian person, of what our ancestors dreamed of. The Russian people survived only because they possessed a culture of transmitting certain information along generic chains, and also because they were able to bring up the most appropriate survival methods in subsequent generations, for example, the same martial arts.

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http://www.kem-systema.ru/content/view/879/122/
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  1. Inzhengr
    Inzhengr 31 May 2012 08: 25
    +10
    Now I understand why my drunk fists itch. This is genetics waking up lol
    1. tronin.maxim
      tronin.maxim 31 May 2012 08: 54
      +5
      Sometimes, not only do they itch with drunkenness, but also in a sober state, some individuals want to tap on the first number. For example, the Americans!
      1. 755962
        755962 1 June 2012 00: 41
        +1
        and more
        When words are not needed.
  2. AK-74-1
    AK-74-1 31 May 2012 08: 57
    +3
    Intersection article. I learned a lot. Thanks to the author.
    1. Ion coaelung
      Ion coaelung 31 May 2012 17: 23
      +3
      Moreover, everything is described in an accessible and understandable, reasoned manner. I really liked the fact that the author emphasized that fighting hand-to-hand combat is not necessarily unarmed, but on the contrary, all available means are used, otherwise there was a rumor like a fighter for hand-to-hand fighting:
      must lose a gun, lose a gun, lose a knife, lose a belt, stay naked, and meet there the second same fuck @ bah!


      The author plus for the trouble!
  3. stavr
    stavr 31 May 2012 09: 25
    -2
    the article is nonsense, an endless stream of meaningless words, the author of information about martial arts was picked up from the same Internet. Some phrases are just masterpieces of stupidity.
    "It is easy to define the so-called Russian style - by the basic technique, which basically consists of several of the following elements: entering the correct plane for a strike, unbalancing the enemy and possibly finishing him off."
    "You need to sleep for an odd number of hours, and then nerve cells and proteins will be most productively restored." nerve cells are not restored either by odd or even hours.
    "Initially in Russia there were a lot of men's fighting games, the most important of which are" wolves and hunters ", which develop a sense of the fighting distance," chamomile "- for leaving in group battles, as well as the concept of" back "in battle," leapfrog "," blind with a whip or whip ", wrestling, football with a tennis ball, etc." especially football with ten. ball
    etc. the whole article is filled with such turbidity
    1. Dimon Lviv
      Dimon Lviv 31 May 2012 11: 57
      +8
      I’ve been studying Russian style (Kadochnikov’s system) for 5 years, and on the basis of this I have the right to judge the article - it is written in the subject, unlike your commentary, separately.
      And YOU yourself were engaged in the Russian style? Or are you "typed from the same Internet"?

      One of the examples of your stupidity - you, as an example of "dregs", mentioned the phrase "taking the enemy out of balance." Do you know that this is one of the foundations of such martial arts as aikido, judo, hapkido? In the Russian style, one of the main things is to put the opponent down, after which it is not difficult to finish him off - a kick from top to bottom is about 8 times stronger than a hand strike. And this can be done without spending such efforts as in judo, just by missing his blow, or by a light push or jerk in the right direction, after which the opponent falls. http://video.mail.ru/mail/v3t5/422/429.html
      In our section, many tens of hours were allocated for practicing this skill, and you just wrote it down on the fly.

      Not understanding the meaning of the article, no need to cheat it!
      1. AER_69
        AER_69 31 May 2012 14: 14
        0
        The article is interesting. But not very immodest.
      2. stavr
        stavr 1 June 2012 09: 49
        -1
        Engaged in including: 3 years Kadochnikova, workshops with his grandfather.
        that you clung to the phrase "taking the enemy out of balance" this action is inherent in almost all combat systems, somewhere more, somewhere less. Therefore, it does not characterize Russian styles in any way. The general phrase is about nothing. In the author's article, replace the phrase Russian styles with African styles and everything is ready for an article about African styles.
        Meaningless stupid.

        I don’t know what they taught you, but your phrase "In the Russian style, one of the main things is to put the enemy down, after which it is not difficult to finish him off" is complete nonsense. Let me explain: when three come up to you and you first start to lay on the ground and then finish off the first, the other two will trample you, this is an example.
      3. late
        late 1 June 2012 20: 11
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        I agree with you, Dmitry. At one time, he himself practiced the technique of using the "Lynx" knife - the "flickering" technique, setting blocks in sparring, striking - all this was really worked out by generations, as the author rightly noted, armed with cold weapons. For example, the fastest and most painless technique for the enemy to disable him is to quickly strike a knife on his forehead, blood will flood his eyes, and you have freedom of action.
    2. neri73-r
      neri73-r 31 May 2012 12: 01
      0
      Martial arts fan ??????? Karatistttttt .....
    3. Inzhengr
      Inzhengr 31 May 2012 12: 03
      0
      All sources decide. wink
  4. Skiff
    Skiff 31 May 2012 10: 45
    +7
    Strange, but I never read or heard about all these methods of the Russian style, but I do all this myself without prompts, I work a lot physically, eat 2 times a day, and after work I do physical exercises, push-ups, bars, shadow boxing and pear. .
    I want to add an article on the content that is justified and instructive, my lifestyle and physical training helped me dozens of times on the street and not only that, taking into account the fact that I did not when I was specifically engaged in martial arts.

    DO NOT thump, train !!!
  5. George IV
    George IV 31 May 2012 10: 55
    -1
    All such laudatory articles do not have any real basis.

    It is foolish to say that our ancestors did not fight. But only certain peoples of our former Motherland have such a concept as "national struggle", let's say as "kuresh" among the Turkic peoples. We have only a general and non-systemic "fistfight" ordinary fight without rules.

    Well, we didn’t have such things as in the east. In the sense of schools and such a line of hand-to-hand combat, transmitted over the centuries, and everyone who is trying to tell something to everyone is perfectly described here in this small work (http://henri-spb.livejournal.com/265329.html) about cormorant in martial arts .

    Only Kharlampiev structured the entire melee confusion on our territory, added some Japanese Judo techniques that Oleschepkov scribbled on, and made sambo known to everyone.
    1. Weekend
      Weekend 31 May 2012 14: 35
      +1
      You're right George IV the fact that as such there were no structured schools for the general masses, but on the other hand, no one can say with 100% certainty what the vigilantes were trained, right? Historians agree that martial arts training took place in a competitive-play form typical for Russians, which was given the generalized name "Russian national military competitive-play tradition". This socio-historical phenomenon covered the entire male population, traditional society. According to historical research on the territory of the Russian Empire in the 324th - early 62th centuries. the custom of such competitions existed in at least 39 counties (departments, districts) of 60 provinces (regions). Including it is noted in 16 provincial cities, including both capitals, in XNUMX county and XNUMX provincial cities. That is, this tradition covered the entire territory of Russia inhabited by Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians.
      The first mention of fist fights in Russia dates back to the 9th century, in the 13th century chroniclers write about fist fights that were held everywhere, as in fist fights, children's fights preceded adult fights, and the older generation had the opportunity to observe the growth of youth skill. As if the result of a test of fighting training were fist and stick fights. The Great Meadow has been known in Moscow since the 14th century. And from the end of the 15th to the 17th century, Gosudarev Garden was located on this very spot, between Baltschug and modern Serafimovich Street. From the 15th century fist fights were organized near the Great Meadow [Moscow].
      In the 16th century, during the reign of Tsar Ivan IV the Terrible, pugilism was also widespread, which was reflected in the painting “Pugilism under John IV” by artist Mikhail Ivanovich Peskov.
      While fist fighting technique was just emerging in Europe, in the 17th century Russian army the military-physical training system already included mandatory fist fighting!
      Well, as if a small excursion into other BI:
      Jiu Jitsu (Jiu-Jitsu), Japan -16th century. Such BI as Judo and Aikido take their roots from here.
      Karate, O. Okinawa in the 14th-18th centuries based on the technique of Chinese boxing quan-fa ("teaching the fist"), in the 19th century. migrated to Japan.
      French boxing Savate (Savate) was born in the 17th century. Brazilian capoeira - in the 17th century in the so-called Palm Republic, formed by runaway black slaves. By the 17th century, three styles of hand-to-hand fighting developed in England: Westmoreland, Devonshire and Cumberland. Based on these styles, English boxing was formed.
      Thai boxing (Muay Thai) arose in Thailand by the 15th century from hand-to-hand combat of the 13th century - may si juice, and only appeared in Europe in 1788.
      Pugilism existed in the British Isles and in the 12th century, the Cornish wrestling and Northumberland wrestling, including kicks and arms and wrestling equipment.
      I myself actively engage in jiu jutsu, the number of charlatans is a bit annoying, but no more)) as I have formulated Russian fist fighting - this is not a kind of BI, this is not a school, and not some kind of structured teaching, it’s like a state of mind arising from upbringing in a boy - war, from constant training, from a way of thinking.
      OC! ;)
      1. George IV
        George IV 31 May 2012 16: 30
        -1
        Well, yes.
        But than to cite the footcloth of the text, again of "general patriotic" and in no way scientific significance from the sites, it would be better to set out more of his thoughts.
        In our society of the 19th century and earlier, with a specific culture, it was customary to fight. The cat did not know how, just did not quote.
        Somehow the squad training took place and somehow they fought. And even someone was regularly beaten at the front. So they knew how to fight. At a later time, many things were taken over from the west. This already applies to the times of Peter the Great and fencing. But again, nowhere was there even a hint of "style". Returning to fistfights. Maybe there was something called strikes, perhaps. Perhaps in different nationalities, due to different folk fun, somewhere it was customary to show their dominance in different ways. Somewhere to wave fists, somewhere to fight, somewhere to ride horses and shoot from a bow.
        However, this is a completely different attitude than the one that the "schools" had, where a certain style within its framework existed from generation to generation, like some kind of "crane style" in kung fu. This is all due to the fact that in Eastern society "styles" and the martial arts themselves over time began to have a religious meaning. To gain enlightenment through repeated repetition of kata or many hours of sword training. Detach from everything during training. And as a side effect - becoming a mega fighter.
        Everything was more pragmatic here. Therefore, even now, any martial art is treated from a practical point of view. Because even then the fist fighters and now those who adopted the eastern styles have the same goal - to win (and, as a result, to survive). That is why our karate has changed so much and it has become "closer to life" or rather to our life and its harsh realities.

        Well, something like this.
        1. Weekend
          Weekend 31 May 2012 17: 03
          +1
          Yes sir. And with your thoughts, everything is simple, there is a certain basis that everyone learns, but at the same time, not everyone becomes outstanding fighters. wink
        2. SIT
          SIT 1 June 2012 00: 01
          0
          Quote: Georg iv
          This is all due to the fact that in Eastern society "styles" and the martial arts themselves over time began to have a religious meaning. To gain enlightenment through repeated repetition of kata or many hours of sword training. Detach from everything during training. And as a side effect - becoming a mega fighter.

          Just the opposite. This is not BI began to be religious in nature, but such a direction as Zen (Chan) Buddhism began to use BI in connection with the advent of the Warrior's Way. The paths may be different. Maybe the Prayer Path that ordinary Buddhist monks follow. All Paths lead to enlightenment (satori, nirvana, etc.). Just someone thousands of years ago noticed that in the event of mortal danger, and most often it happened naturally in battle, a person has a mobilization of hidden reserves and, as a result, consciousness is revealed. The so-called altered state of consciousness sets in. One of its manifestations is a slowdown in time, or rather, an increase in the speed of perception at times. Everything just flashed before my eyes at a crazy speed and suddenly it starts to move as in the forms of tai chuan. This disclosure of consciousness for further spiritual development was the first goal of the Warrior's Path. For it to happen, the threat to life must be real - instinct cannot be fooled. Therefore, both equipment and weapons were real and deadly. No rules and restrictions. Only the law of interaction of Yin and Yang. That same smooth continuous line of the Great Reach. As soon as you tore it up, it immediately fell out of ISS and, at best, a cripple. Therefore, the movements have been honed for years. The goal is not to chop as many enemies as possible, but to survive, and for this you need to try to kill your partner. For both to remain intact, one must be a Teacher who has already gone through this with his Teacher. At the same time, the student knows that he is risking his life. After the consciousness has opened several times under the influence of mortal danger, the entry point is fixed and the next time they enter this state already meditating in motion, i.e. performing kata, tao. After that, the Path itself begins. But the one who is not suitable for spiritual work really becomes a by-product - just a skilled fighter. Now, Chinese special forces are recruiting from these. Previously, they went to the service as a personal guard or went to wander and establish various BI schools among lay people outside the monasteries. To prepare just a soldier, all this is not necessary. Especially for athletes. Therefore, a black belt can be obtained in a couple of years. Although if the exam had to risk one’s life, hardly anyone began to rush)))
          1. George IV
            George IV 1 June 2012 12: 15
            0
            Get down from the clouds!
            Excessive romanticism does not bring to good.
            Why did I say that "the styles began to have a religious meaning." Because once there was a time when there was no Buddhism, there was a time when there was no Eastern religion in this form, but there was no time when a person did not have to fight for his life and position in society. Therefore, the martial art is primary, and with the emergence of spiritual views, it intertwined with them.
            And after the emergence of spiritual ideas about reincarnation after death, martial arts ceased to bear only the nature of the struggle for survival. Views have changed.
            1. SIT
              SIT 1 June 2012 16: 04
              0
              Quote: Georg iv
              Therefore, martial art is primary, and with the emergence of spiritual views, it was intertwined with them.

              This is approximately the same as figuring out the primacy of matter or consciousness. That BI that has come down to us has come only because it has been preserved as a Zen tradition of Buddhism. Therefore, it is so structured and has training methods encrypted in Tao and Kata. Such carefully thought-out training was not necessary for the training of soldiers, and therefore we do not now have such complete techniques, debugged by generations of Teachers and students, teaching the ancient European or the same Russian style of hand-to-hand combat. Modern developments could not pass multiple tests in real combat conditions of hand-to-hand combat, because this is not the main type of battle in a war of motors, calibers and armor.
              1. George IV
                George IV 2 June 2012 16: 28
                0
                From a materialistic point of view, a person initially got food and saved his life, and then he thought about the high. On this side, of course, great-martial arts appeared earlier. From the idealistic side, man was immediately spiritual and, based on his understanding of spirituality, in one way or another procured food and defended himself.

                I don’t think that if the Chinese were to adopt a different faith instead of Zen, they would immediately forget how to fight.
                And as for the army training, so, excuse me, they have had it and have had so many centuries precisely on the basis of traditional arts and styles.
                Or do you want to say that there were no soldiers in China? Or were they prepared in their martial styles?

                In modern life, of course it is. Here, martial arts are needed more to maintain physical condition and to develop the correct combat thinking and behavior in combat, albeit not in hand-to-hand combat.
      2. Captain45
        Captain45 31 May 2012 20: 36
        +3
        Quote: Helg
        as I formulated Russian fist fighting for myself - this is not a kind of BI, this is not a school, and not some kind of structured teaching, it is like a state of mind arising from upbringing in a boy - war, from constant training, from a way of thinking.

        I agree completely +++++ By the way, a little-known historical fact: when Peter the Great was in England with the embassy he was shown English boxing. To which Peter said that there were Russian fist fighters and he was offered to arrange a duel. A soldier from the escort of the embassy called up. The then champion of London was put up against him, so our soldier almost knocked that champion to death with one blow, proving the superiority of the Russian fist fight over the English . I read it for a long time, it seems in the journal "Science and Life" in the early 80s.
        1. Weekend
          Weekend 31 May 2012 21: 30
          0
          Yes, yes, I also read about such a case;) but without details.
  6. SIT
    SIT 31 May 2012 11: 02
    +2
    I do not know whether to condemn the author. Now everyone writes like that about martial arts. Everything to the heap - both the programmer and the special forces fighter are equally at risk and the worst events are waiting for us on the street. As an advertisement for commercial sections, such articles are probably useful. If you dig into the depths, it turns out that a person who has been trained and actually has visited more than once in hand-to-hand combat (which is a rarity in modern times) will avoid any street fights because the curtain in the brain falls off automatically - a reflex developed on the basis of instinct you can’t just turn off self-preservation. When the switch clicked late. It will be as if driven into a subcortex - in melee prisoners are not taken and only their own or corpses are behind. It will take a very expensive lawyer to prove that a fracture of the base of the skull with a kicking elbow from top to bottom or an overgrown Adam's apple are the limits of necessary self-defense. To turn off this reflex, there is no means, but there is psychological rehabilitation to drown it out, but even after it you cannot provoke your inner beast. If he breaks out again, there may not be a way back. According to this, dancing, sports, fights and even self-defense skills are welcome. But do not touch hand-to-hand combat as such, i.e. one of the ways to destroy enemy manpower in close combat. This is not for kids, and just people living an ordinary life do not need to cripple the psyche.
  7. Bort radist
    Bort radist 31 May 2012 11: 51
    +2
    A bit ambitious and at the top. Anyone who in the comments tries to give hand-to-hand combat the status of standing above all martial arts is fundamentally wrong. I see this as a PR action. Although the Russian style and all its offshoots are unique and, in my opinion, the most applicable for real combat. I do not remember who said - "A nation that has lost contact with the generic martial art is doomed to extinction!"
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 31 May 2012 12: 04
      +1
      A nation that has forgotten its history is doomed to extinction! What the Anglo-Saxons are trying to do with us now, this is the rewriting of history! You have to fight, fight and fight again!
    2. SIT
      SIT 31 May 2012 12: 40
      +1
      Quote: Bort Radist
      Although the Russian style and all its branches are unique and in my opinion the most applied for real combat.

      What is unique and with what other types do you compare, evaluating its suitability for a real battle?
      1. Weekend
        Weekend 31 May 2012 14: 41
        +1
        Guys, you do not need anything, to compare with anything;) otherwise it will go "My Kung Fu, better than your Kung Fu"))) but about the applied aspect of BI, for example against a knife, I can give such a video;) - http://www.youtube .com / watch? v = zVSFWCchghU & feature = share
        1. SIT
          SIT 31 May 2012 15: 18
          0
          Quote: Helg
          against the knife I can bring such a video

          Fantasy is shown very correctly)))) That is exactly what they attack with a knife in all pretense. Reality is also very, very vitally reflected. Only there they did not prepare the defender at all and he does not understand that life will end now. A trained person first of all understands that he will certainly be cut in this situation, but everything must be done so as not to be killed.
        2. Bort radist
          Bort radist 1 June 2012 20: 35
          0
          There is nothing surprising in this video. This is not a multi-line topic. About the video, I can say that the defender simply fell into a stupor, I did not even see the ATTEMPTS to meet with a blow, to leave the line of attack. Such a video is an attempt to brainwash on the topic of if I have a knife, on my knees or stand at attention. I had to see how a "thug eagle" who twisted the knife a couple of times from the lower grip to the upper one and thought that now he would cut everyone. They disarmed me with a banal sweep of my jacket, and then beat me for a long time and painfully. Understanding people know that working out standard situations is more about instilling confidence, psychological preparation. The next level is improvisation. The striker improvised well, and the second (I can't call him defenders) played the role of a bag. I remember in children's arguments they said, but I will take a crowbar and the boxer will not do anything. A decent answer was not immediately found, and the boxer will also take a crowbar! In a real fight, there is no limit! Strength of mind and improvisation.
      2. Bort radist
        Bort radist 1 June 2012 18: 19
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        The uniqueness for us, I think, is that it is closest to the life of our people and the Russian warrior (modern), and its roots go back to the heritage of our ancestors. But I in no way stand on the position that "everything else is bullshit." Any master has a lot to learn, even sumo for real combat. Sambo is a prime example.
    3. Ross
      Ross 31 May 2012 17: 38
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      Bort Radist,
      He studied for a long time in eastern schools, and everywhere there is a single rule - external and internal schools. The internal school is always work with energy, and the external is the physical, the external. In addition, the internal school is ALWAYS connected with the spiritual practice of an adherent. So it was in the ancient Cossack schools and among our ancestors before baptism. Magi, as the current masters of yoga correctly prepared the war. Therefore, we are now reading with surprise about the ancient Russian miracle heroes.
  8. borisst64
    borisst64 31 May 2012 12: 31
    +2
    “Towards evening, as a rule, huge crowds of people, in anticipation of a fist fight, converged on a wide clearing behind the cemetery, and the most cheerful began to provoke each other.
    In the beginning, the boys were bullied: either the Chulkovites would start to tuss the Zarechensk people, or the Zarechensk residents would begin to hurt the Chulkovites.
    It is enough for one wall to start a retreat, as teenagers now become stronger in its ranks, and it goes on the offensive. Then stronger fighters pour into another wall. The brawl flares up. The walls grow, expand. Now the “suitors” and “gentlemen” (as the young people were usually called) entered the battle. Excitement is increasing. The crowd in friendly cries provokes one or the other.
    If the wall recedes under the onslaught of another, the screams of the crowd turn into a wild cry. This cry even of the dead can rise from the graves. The living do not stand it. Here, respectable people with a mustache and beards, having taken off their jackets, open their vests and, having rolled up their sleeves, rush to help the retreating people.
    Often these screams are raised even by the elderly, and gray-haired, stocky grandfathers with formidable shouts are dragged into the ranks of the beating.
    Once in time, Misha ran to the Degtyarevs:
    - Vasya, go to the cemetery, they are fighting there, now Parmenych has galloped.
    There were already a lot of people in the cemetery. Merchants settled down on a hill. They gathered to see fist fights with their families in smart crews. Having drunk a few famous bullies and giving them little things for a hangover, they often pushed them with their foreheads, and the scuffle began. So it was this time.
    The fight was in full swing. Vasya and Misha climbed a tree and began to look through Parmenych's eyes. The baker, Parmenych, has already rolled to the battlefield on hot horses, surrounded by dozens of bakers.
    Standing up in a tarantass, huge, massive, he waved his hands and shouted in a loud voice:
    - Come on, come on, killer whales, beat them, you sons of bitches!
    When one of the walls began to be heavily crowded, he could not stand it, he jumped off the tarantass and shouted: “Guys, follow me, they beat ours!” - rushed to the rescue and fought with such frenzy that everyone flew away from him, as from an epic hero ...
    The battle this time ended amicably. Parmenych gave money for vodka and rode off. From the "battlefield" in the tavern were beaten, lined, bloodied. "

    In the mid-70s, I witnessed such a battle in the village. This is also our "Russian fun"
  9. Odessa
    Odessa 31 May 2012 12: 56
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    RUSSIAN FIGHT! Slavic-Goritsky / WORLD WARRIOR series /
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Eqrz0VzBA
  10. Weekend
    Weekend 31 May 2012 14: 47
    +1
    The author did not put a minus for the article just because he took the trouble to write it, Martial arts are a HUGE layer that cannot be taken on a swoop, and even more so, consider BI in a historical context, at least not worth it, because you have to shovel a lot of information, dive into all this with a head and then talk about something, and not having superficially ran over the "heads" at the end to give some more advice, which is completely nowhere ...
  11. Pimply
    Pimply 31 May 2012 15: 19
    -4
    Hmmm. The author is aware that all the so-called. "Russian styles" appeared at the end of the 20th century?
    1. Persey
      Persey 31 May 2012 18: 05
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      Russian styles began to be called so at the beginning of the 20th century, because it was part of the upbringing of a man and not separate martial arts as in the east, there were no textbooks and no styles of "drunken lame dragon were invented." In general, the article is informative, it turns out that in ancient times our ancestors played "football with a tennis ball" ... ??? ..
  12. Idunavs
    Idunavs 31 May 2012 16: 23
    +2
    Pimply,
    It’s not funny yourself? Or we don’t know the story at all. A plus!
    1. Pimply
      Pimply 1 June 2012 19: 12
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      I know the story well. That is why I know that those fisticuffs, which somehow could be attributed to martial art, became extinct in the 19 century due to severe persecution.
  13. denkastro
    denkastro 1 June 2012 12: 41
    +1
    SAMBO is the latest Russian version of hand-to-hand combat. It doesn’t matter that something is taken from judo and savat, the Russians developed it and took more than 30 local folk schools as a base. Our athletes have proved the effectiveness of SAMBO for a long time (I hope I don’t need to list it). Yes and the applied aspect in SAMBO in the first place. Once my son asked my friend which soldiers are the strongest. To which he answered, look at the world map and you will understand everything. A strong soldier is a complex, including hand-to-hand combat.