Project "Typhoon" - an armored vehicle based on the Urals - 63095

Armored "Ural-63095" is designed to perform tasks for the transport of people (personnel), cargo for various purposes and towing trailer solutions on roads of various types and off-road. The military purpose of armored vehicles "Ural-63095" is the transportation of personnel or cargoes to the zone of military conflict, as well as taking direct part in them.

When creating the machine, designers used the most advanced solutions in design, equipment, units and armored protection. According to the designers, "Ural-63095" will withstand the undermining of 8 kilograms of TNT.

The new machine “Ural-63095” has become one of fifty samples of special equipment demonstrated at the end of January at a gated exhibition near Moscow. In addition, the designers of the Ural automobile plant presented seven more promising vehicles with all-wheel drive for the 2 destination. The exhibition was held under the program of improvement of the state defense order. This machine is proposed to provide the units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, but the leadership of the internal troops is not in a hurry to draw any conclusion regarding the Typhoon project. Earlier, in the middle of 2011, the head of the military department of Russia, at a prospective show of domestic military equipment, made a statement that the Typhoon based on the Urals will be acquired in the near future for the needs of the Russian army.

To date, the armored vehicle passes a complex test. According to the statements of the developers of the Ural automobile plant of the Russian GAZ Group, the new machine exceeds the reliability of modern BTR, and it can withstand the destruction of various explosive devices, up to anti-tank mines. According to the main characteristics, "Typhoon" based on the Urals, is not inferior to its foreign counterparts. As commented, the capabilities of the machine, the chief designer of the project - “new armor installed on the“ Typhoon ”will be able to protect the people being transported and various cargo from the action of small weapons and explosive devices down to anti-tank mines. ” Today, you can find the opinion that the statements are not accurate enough, because with the naked eye you can see the gas tank taken out by car, hitting which from small arms or fragments, will nullify the possibility of booking a car.

All-wheel drive triaxial multifunctional frame machine "Typhoon" based on the Ural-63095 has a 3-x local cabin and a module designed for twelve people. In some sources it can be found that the functional module of the machine is designed for 16 people, perhaps, we are talking about the modification of "Ural-63095". Formula wheels armored cargo vehicles 6X6. The armored cabin is provided with a sleeper folding space, a functional armored module that provides reliable protection of the people and cargo transported. Chassis armored "Typhoon" has a hydropneumatic suspension of an independent type. Mounted engine - 450 - strong, with increased power. The engine was manufactured by the Yaroslavl Motor Plant, which is also part of the Russian GAZ Group. YMZ-E5367 has an automatic 6-ti gearbox, a manual 2-x speed transfer case, liquid cooling and direct fuel injection. Turbocharged diesel engine, made according to modern environmental standards Euro-4. The steering is provided by a third-party 2 hydraulic booster.
The new machine of the "Typhoon" project has increased permeability characteristics, which consist in overcoming the 60-tee-degree rise, 2-x meter ford and 60-tee centimeter vertical obstacles. Ural-63095 has 2 fuel tanks with a total capacity of 600 liters. According to reports, the thickness of armored glass - 130 mm, the weight of such glass - 300 kilogram per square meter, it is able to withstand an armor-piercing bullet, released from CPVT with 200 meters.

You can install various weapons on the armored vehicle, for example a machine gun (on the roof of a car) that will be controlled remotely from the armored module. Of the equipment, we note the satellite navigation system and night vision devices. In the armored module, a liquid crystal monitor is installed, to which various information is displayed and from which the internal systems of the armored car can be monitored and adjusted.

The “Typhoon” family consists of three types of armored vehicles, two bonded “Urals” and one bonded “KamAZ”. According to the characteristics of bronze protection, they are not inferior to their foreign counterparts "MRAP". Machines of the project "Typhoon" - a completely new development, which is not an ordinary modernization of Russian trucks. Typhoon is a project of GAZ Group, they are engaged in car factories Ural, KamAZ and a number of other plants and enterprises. Approximate deadline for completion and testing is 2014 year. Developments are carried out simultaneously in several directions:
- armored vehicles with wheel formula 6x6, 4x4, 2x2;
- bonnet and bonded performance;
- frame and case.

Information sources:
http://pro-tank.ru/blog/786-rus-new-armored-vehicle-ural63095-is-being-tested
http://bastion-karpenko.narod.ru/VVT/URAL-63095.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xs6YYfDVW4

Comments

[Dust]

The barn is impressive, but the feasibility of their construction is still not obvious!
All the same, they can be effective on a limited number of potential theater of operations, and the territory of Russia is not one of them ...

[saveall]

Expediency is not obvious? Come on ... You don’t have to go far and you just have to rummage through the Internet and find a ton of information and even a video about how many of our guys died in Chechnya during the bombing or attack on our convoys. They shot almost point blank. Our ordinary Urals turned into a sieve.

[Armata]

The feasibility of the project is obvious even if two leading manufacturers of trucks in Russia have thought about the life of a soldier and are doing it quite successfully, which is especially pleasing on a single platform.

[Redpartyzan]

Wait! And the Urals and Kamaz showed their cars. Now the choice is what kind of car to take in the series for Moscow Region. In my opinion, both of them are worthy and certainly we need such monsters. The level of protection is simply impressive.

[Armata]

Quote: Redpartyzan

Now the choice is what kind of car to take in the series for Moscow Region.

It seems to me that both will be in series, only for different purposes, and both will be purchased too.

[Korvin]

They showed them two years ago. And where are they still? One KamAZ Typhoon in 5MSBr to show Putin and that's enough? Amers already give up their rusty scraps for recycling and we still have it!

[Run n gun]

I agree, these MRAP trucks are at a high level !!!

[Dust]

Under the same conditions, this truck will become a sieve! And anyone will get a tank - therefore, the expediency is not obvious!

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[radikdan79]

read the comments in the article dedicated to KAMAZ vehicles from the Typhoon project http://topwar.ru/14273-gruzovoy-bronevik-tayfun-ot-kamskogo-avtozavoda.html
I repeat, but still - this is not an armored personnel carrier, not an armored personnel carrier, and even more so not a tank! it is a vehicle designed for the delivery of personnel and material support in the frontline (although in the modern war the concept of front is absent ...). These armored vehicles are not intended for direct clash! they must provide the maximum possible protection under the given conditions for the transported personnel and cargo. no more...

[Denis]

Quote: radikdan79

for transported personnel and cargo

Here is the very l \ s for such a machine very little

[deredevil90]

Let’s stop the tanks then, because they’ll kill him anyway! And we don’t need airplanes, they will still be shot down. And abandon the fleet! After all, all ships will sink! No need to write nonsense! You can knock down, knock down, destroy anything! But the harder it is, the better!

[MrBoris555]

and what are you going to carry a soldier in a theater of war? in the Urals lined with sandbags?
By the way, it’s interesting that Iveco decided to buy squeals and squeaks, but for some reason they are silent about the purchases of Typhoons).
The only thing that does not suit, in my opinion, is the weak firepower of the "box" - one PKTM as something weak, there is a lot of space on the roof, why not put a full-fledged combat module with at least the same KPVT with a complex of visual reconnaissance tools with a noctovisor and a thermal imager - not car, but the dream would be ..

[fidel]

As always, the same thing - "is going through the testing stage" and "perhaps someday it will go into service" ...
The country has been at war with its own people on its territory for almost 20 years, and to protect the "gunners of general order" such cars are needed like air, and the military-industrial complex, what else "brings" to something ...
Yes, Russia should already, like ten years ago, become a world leader in the development and use of such cars (MRAPs), and officials are still feeding taxpayers "breakfasts" and "after-breakfasts".
Tell the statistics: how many over the past 15 years have the federals died and remained disabled as a result of the bombing of IEDs?

[Armata]

Quote: fidel

Tell the statistics: how many over the past 15 years have the federals died and remained disabled as a result of the bombing of IEDs?

You better count the sacrifices among your allies.

Quote: fidel

As always, the same thing - "is going through the testing stage" and "perhaps someday it will go into service."

Remember the old saying that a Russian takes a long time to harness and ride fast.

[core]

or maybe you can stick a volley fire system like GRAD on the roof? it's just a truck of increased security.

[MrBoris555]

MLRS is not needed :), but we will not exclude the fact that the truck should be a full-fledged combat unit and, if anything, support the infantry "in the field." In modern realities, one 7,62 machine gun is too weak for this

[core]

with such a silhouette in the statics of whom he can support, one shot from an RPG, and there is no longer a machine gunner or a truck. he can only cover his infantry during shelling with his side.

[MrBoris555]

one shot from an RPG and there is no infantry fighting vehicle or armored personnel carrier, but that doesn’t say why the weapons are on them? Especially since fire support can be provided without engaging in direct combat. The KPVT also penetrates 2 km

[755962]

Reservation of "Typhoons" was made at the Research Institute of Steel and is based on special ceramics. According to representatives of the institute, ceramic armor with equal characteristics weighs significantly less than steel. Work to ensure the protection of the car from mines is being carried out in our country for the first time, and we do not yet have a corresponding standard classifying undermining underbody. Therefore, the Steel Research Institute and plants participating in the program were forced to use the NATO classification provided for by the STANAG 4569 standard. As a result of this “borrowing,” prototype reservation models for promising machines meet the protection level of 3b - 8 kilograms of TNT under any part of the bottom. Naturally, the truck in this case will receive very, very serious damage, but the crew will remain alive. As for the requirements for protection against bullets, the cabin and the armored module for transporting personnel for 16 people from all angles can withstand the hit of a 14,5 mm armor-piercing bullet of the KPV machine gun from a distance of at least 200 meters, which corresponds to level 4 of STANAG 4569.

[Denis]

for grenade launchers, manufacturers do not say, talk for mines
these are different supplies, the grenade burns as if

[Korvin]

Look at the German army MAN truck with an armored cab, also an ordinary truck, and nevertheless they put in a module with a fifty and an automatic grenade launcher, because in a war without a front or rear, when a gift can fly at any time, it’s better not to have MPE than on the PKT tower, ,

[77bor1973]

everything rests on the dimensions, it is already more than 3 m in height ...

[Korvin]

Plus, definitely. With combat modules, we just ... well, showed one on the Tiger and everything, serial without them. When we have a machine gunner will cease to be a consumable ....

[Норд]

I agree with the opinion that such machines are also needed yesterday.

[sergey69]

MO, as I understand it, are going to take both cars into service. During their development, a unified platform was used. This is how KamAZ and the Urals come into service now.

[nirab]

Grieves the fuel tank (made like a regular truck) and the height of the car. It seems to me that the center of gravity is a little tall which leads to a rollover (ZiL131 disease in the kung version).

[core]

2. fuel tanks refuel with salary, does not explode. besides, it’s not so easy to get into the tank when the truck moves. your suggestions on the location of the fuel tank? I hope you do not want to put it in the passenger module 7

[MrBoris555]

so what? there will be well-fried canned meat product

[Armata]

Alexander do not worry about balancing the car. Urals can not be compared with ZIL, these are 2 different cars, all the more the Urals have proven their off-road qualities many times and even at critical inclines. And the fact that the tank is so diesel-powered outside, and as you know, salar burns extremely poorly, compared to other fuels and lubricants.

[radikdan79]

add. URALS in combat units have earned trust in their maneuverability and endurance. and according to military drivers in the army, there’s no better car. now they will also be armored (although, to be honest, this is a completely different URAL)

[77bor1973]

it cannot be compared with URAL on cross-country ability, since the suspension on the TYPHOON is independent and it weighs several times more than the URAL ...

[sedoj]

The question is not that the solarium does not burn well, but that when the tank is detonated, the tank will be torn off and the vehicle will remain in place. In addition, with an external fuel tank, the fuel lines are also outside. I wonder how this is thought out?

[Armata]

If it is blown up, even if the fuel tank does not tear off, in any case it will destroy the suspension and the car will stand up.

[Patriot 74]

But the personnel will retain their LIFE, and after the blast, they will continue to carry out the combat mission.

[Green 413-1685]

And where do you think the gas tank should be located? In the reserved space, turning the car undermining into a fraternal crematorium or outside the armor? By the way, ask where the same amers, who have extensive experience in the construction of MPAP, put gas tanks.

[radikdan79]

the fuel tank is moved outside the inhabited interior. covering it with armor is not a problem. and a high center of gravity is due to the requirements of resistance to undermining:
- the "nut" body for diverting the blast wave to the side itself is not small in size (although the latest trend is now the device of a multi-layer energy-absorbing bottom), this is due to habitability conditions;
- the farther (higher) the structure from the place of the explosion, the less load on the structure (and consequently the consequences) ...
and Lamborghini can be overturned (with the proper "skill") ...

[Bronis]

Quote: radikdan79

the latest trend now is the construction of a multilayer energy-absorbing bottom

I agree. Machines of this kind owe their appearance to guerrilla wars. The Americans also do not use them on the battlefield. The main thing for such machines is protection against mines, grenades and small arms. As a general rule, they should not engage in battle. I came under fire - rather leave the danger zone and take out the personnel.

[vostok]

Armored vehicles are simply not necessary for us, if they had been released early, how much they would have saved the lives of our boys in Chechnya.

[dred]

Just handsome. No words.

[itr]

Yes, as always, the mystical one could not do without a platform! mystical word. And judging by the drawing, this is nothing more than a frame!
And in order to stop all disputes it is necessary to put this machine and to hammer it with a grenade launcher and everything will be clear. And for the sake of clarity, to put in the car who developed it or promotes it intensely.
Sorry, I'm back more to the Italian armored cars

[Eugene]

Che from the granotomet? Let’s just let Kornet go, or from a BOPS tank gun, and then with ka-52 vortices.
This is an armored truck with protection against mines and small arms, not MBT!

[itr]

Strongly! It will turn out mines he can hold and not a grenade launcher? And how do you think he will deal with mines if it can even be pierced with a fly

[Eugene]

You confuse the impacts: A fly is a cumulative effect, it seems to burn through up to 180 mm of homogeneous steel armor with what is usually directed to the sides, forehead of the car, and a mine is a high explosive effect, and strictly to the side of the undercarriage / bottom. Therefore, if we are protecting ourselves from a fly, we hang up an anti-cumulative screen, grids, dynamic protection (at the same time, the composite armor must be thick), and from the landmine under the front / rear axles (by the way, there is already an independent suspension and there are no bridges), an energy-absorbing bottom, special armchairs for personnel, special anti-splinter coating in the floor.

[kagorta]

Especially for you from Wikipedia.
MRAP (Eng. Mine Resistant Ambush Protected - Protected against demolition and ambush attacks). Wheeled armored vehicles with enhanced mine protection. For the most part, vehicles of this type have a high ground clearance, a V-shaped bottom that is well opposed to fragments and allows efficient dispersion of the explosion energy (one of the exceptions is the German armored car Dingo 2, where the flat bottom is protected by composite armor). For the first time, such armored vehicles began to be used by the armed forces of South Africa during the fighting in Angola and Namibia, later their experience was taken over by other states (the USA began mass production of MRAP vehicles after the invasion of Iraq).
And he doesn’t hold mines, he’ll only take the wheels off this way, the car will have a roof, but the people in it will be safe because of the above about the bottom.

[Eugene]

and where did I write that she would calmly keep mines?

[kagorta]

And I didn’t answer you, but itr (he wrote that since he is holding mines, he must also RPG), our comments are on the same level. Just yours 4 minutes earlier.

[Mikhado]

it is able to withstand armored a bullet fired from the KPVT from 200 meters.

author of letters.

[Evgen2509]

This is what:

mechanical 2-stage transfer case, liquid cooling with direct fuel injection.

Yes, and KAMAZ - also two, with the same difference, so, nothing new ...

[Volkhov]

- armored vehicles with wheel formula 6x6, 4x4, 2x2;

2x2 - an armored all-terrain motorcycle or a single-axle tractor?

[radikdan79]

Apparently translation costs or not strong knowledge in this topic. smile like errors. but overall the material is informative

[MrBoris555]

I am only wondering what kind of monkey is minus?

[Armata]

Do not care if any of them. There are many who change flags every 2 hours.

[Denis]

has 3's local cab and module designed for twelve people

the gain in front of the armored personnel carrier is small, maybe it made sense to design a module for the armored personnel carrier?
all the same, "Ural" is primarily a truck, and an armored personnel carrier is a combat vehicle - if we recall the past, then specially designed armored cars were better than armored trucks

[MrBoris555]

the task of the truck is to deliver the infantry safely to the theater of operations, and the armored car to deliver and maintain fire

[77bor1973]

yes, this pipelats is not for the battlefield, but as a colonial transporter in the rear ...

[Armata]

And why is the Urals and Kamaz compared only with armored personnel carriers? These are multi-purpose vehicles, and not just to deliver infantry. I understand from an article on a KAMAZ product that this machine will be generally of a modular type and there will be no problem changing the rear module.

[8 company]

It seems like an intelligent car. Protection from bullets and mines is already a huge step forward, such trucks had to be done before the Afghan war, no matter how many lives they saved. Of the wrecked trucks in Afghanistan, in some places it was possible to make a road embankment, so many of them accumulated over 9 years.

[Run n gun]

The Ural is good because it has well-thought-out doors, and even slightly recessed into the hull, which protects personnel from instant destruction, which is a big plus and, of course, the Ural cross-country ability is at a high level. In my opinion, the Ural is superior to Kamaz.

[Patriot 74]

Yes, such machines are needed, but today at URALAZ there is no state order, even for 4320, not to mention the Typhoons. With this approach, the army will not receive a single mass-produced car by the Defense Ministry on a defense order by 2020.

[MrBoris555]

MO promised to buy the Ural-Typhoon, but only after the acceptance of the state commission

[Patriot 74]

Oh, I'm sure the new old defense mine will take care of an early acceptance

[Sergh]

The poor fellow minister has not been called names, now in this video he is called Igor, because he will be offended and will not accept the "Ural". Correspondents would at least think what they say.

[radikdan79]

be that as it may, but FINALLY in the army there will be modern machines made taking into account modern requirements for this kind of technology!

[prispek]

I do not believe in domestic developments, and yet with both hands "FOR". Better a new armored truck than an old and unarmored one. Maintaining its manufacturing base again. The main thing is to buy it.

[radikdan79]

be that as it may, the cars deserve attention. after all, nothing like this had been received by the troops before (the options for the semi-artisanal booking of URAL 4320 didn’t count - after all, a car of a different level). and I agree with you, prispek, the main thing is that there are bulk purchases

[Armata]

What is your disbelief based on?

[Patriot 74]

It is generally known whose interests the minister is lobbying, but not like the Urals. In the meantime, the plant does not work far to its full potential. Specialists are closing workshops. This is not disbelief; it is a statement of fact.

[prispek]

On common sense and personal experience, naturally.

[Patriot 74]

Not only.

[prispek]

What are you trying to say?

[tariff]

In my opinion, a gorgeous combat unit required by a modern army. It would be better if they poured finance into the development of their technology than buying licenses from Fiat. And if what technologies are of interest to (allies, conventional opponents), then ask the "old-timers" how to acquire the "things" of interest through fictitious companies in neutral countries, and then without disturbing the public, SECRETLY study their combat characteristics and production features.

[prispek]

Combat characteristics are possible, but production features cannot be studied without purchasing a license. Who will let you into this catfish production? The "old-timers" of course worked as best they could and a lot of interesting and useful things were acquired, but it is impossible to understand the production technology, the recipe of materials, the assembly sequence from the finished single samples. And there is no need to reinvent the wheel - it has long been invented. A competition is being held. In our conditions, samples of equipment from various manufacturers, including foreign ones, are tested. Based on the test results, a contract for the supply of

[Chicot 1]

Cute armored vehicle! With the combat module it will be able to perform the functions of a gantrack, accompany the columns ...

[SectoR]

The technique is good, I approve. Serdyukov will also approve

[Yoshkin Kot]

n-dya, in 1 and 2 boys would be

[philosopher]

The people, and if without emotion and pathetic patriotism, tell me why this armored car is needed? What niche of tasks does it cover?
For the transportation of goods, equipment and manpower in the army, there are general purpose trucks. For the installation of special equipment and to perform the same tasks in off-road conditions, there are off-road vehicles. For transporting soldiers on the battlefield and fighting inside and out, there is a BMP. For headquarters, communications, intelligence, etc. there is a BRDM. The most universal, for all cases, are armored personnel carriers. In addition, in conditions of military conflict, it is very important that all military armored cars are floating. (Still swam).
This machine will not take five tons of cargo and will not trample on the road, like the ordinary Urals. This car of a soldier on the battlefield will not deliver and fire, even from cover, will not support, like an armored personnel carrier. If the river is ahead, and the partisans did not leave the bridge, then this machine is generally useless. This machine, of course, is not for attack, like an IFV. This machine is a specialized tool for special tasks! And, most likely, not army ...
Question: for what? For colonial and police!
Chechnya is ending, Dagestan will begin, Transcaucasia will end, and Tatarstan will begin, or what? All our lives will we fight with ourselves? But there is not much benefit from it there. An ordinary RPG or a hand-held cumulative grenade, its armor will not stand. By the way, and that she holds a TNT explosion of 8 kg. Yes, she has tears from the explosion in different directions scatter. Do you need an iron pepelats?
Let’s think not where it was possible to use this machine, but where it can be used to use this machine. This is only export to Africa and the Middle East. And that’s all, but then this is a dead end branch of development. I do not argue, this thing is probably needed, but in a very limited number!
The same crap happened with a Kalashnikov assault rifle when he was transferred to a small-caliber cartridge. They also argue that the bullet will be smaller and there will be less recoil and dispersion. But the sleeve is the same and there is just as much gunpowder in it, and there is no less dispersion. It’s just that the bullet began to ricochet from the leaves, from the branches and the impact of the wind on the bullet during the flight of the force. It was said that the soldier will carry more ammunition. But how much he will receive equipped stores, so much is. It no longer fits in the store, and no one has canceled the charters and norms. We were glad that the machine would be easier. Yes, it became easier, but only after replacing the wooden butt with a plastic one. But it became more capricious, because the bore decreased. And that grain of sand, which in a regular caliber may not be very scary, in this can lead to deformation of the trunk (at best). And the bullet itself became much less powerful. No wonder half the world, fighting the AK-47 and AKM, continues to use the normal caliber.
Then it was a mistake or diversion from the west. Now this car is the same. It is better to perfect what is available to the ideal, and not rush from one extreme to another. THIS THIS MACHINE IS A REPEAT OF THAT WHICH HAS ALREADY BEEN RECOGNIZED INELIMIBLE: BTR-40, BTR-152. They, too, were good armored cars for their time, but they did not know how to swim, and their time passed. And now we are looking at them, only not ZIL or GAZ, but the Urals, we say that this is what we need !? What is the trick?
I do not want a scandal and landslide accusations of unpatriotism, I do not want minuses and emotions. I want a logical reason! Let's begin to think and analyze the facts, and not rush at each other.

[philosopher]

Guys, if you think about it without emotion and leaven of patriotism. I can’t catch up: why do we need such armored vehicles? What niche of military tasks can they fill? For transportation of military cargo and personnel in the rear, there are general purpose trucks. To perform these tasks in front-line conditions and the installation of special equipment, there are off-road trucks. For the transfer of manpower in combat conditions and the battle for armor or outside, there is a BMP. For headquarters, intelligence, communications, etc., there is a BRDM. Optimally, armored personnel carriers are suitable for most of these tasks. At the same time, all available military armored cars are floating. What else are you missing? Why invent something that has already been abandoned before?
This machine will not accept five tons of cargo on board and will not trample on the roads, like the usual Urals. This vehicle will not deliver infantry to the battlefield, like an armored personnel carrier, and will not support it with fire or maneuver, even from cover. When working on the roads, by any river, if the partisans blow up the bridge, then neither two fuel tanks, nor satellite navigation will help her. In an attack, carrying a soldier under his armor, and striking the enemy with all his available weapons, like an IFV, this armored car is not suitable.
For what purposes are these machines created, if not for army tasks? Let’s think not “where can WAS used” this machine, but “where you can WILL be used” it. Answer: this machine is created for export to the colonial armies and for police needs within its own, and certainly unarmed, country.
But how much can you fight with yourself? Chechnya is ending, we are starting Dagestan. The Caucasus will end, start Tatarstan or Bashkiria? And, frankly, it is not entirely suitable for anti-terrorist operations. Her armor will not withstand either an RPG shot, or even an RKG-3 hand-held cumulative grenade. And if under it blow up 8 kilograms of TNT equivalent explosives, then its wheels will fly apart in different directions "within the zone of a military conflict." In BTR-80 in critical situations, the landing party prefers to be on top, and it can be seen well and you can jump off to the ground instantly, not to burn inside if an ambush. But here, everything inside and tanks outside?
Its export is possible to the countries of the Middle East, Africa and Latin America, but in small quantities. This export niche is densely occupied by Western countries and it will not yield. There is such good in bulk, and there is even the best performance. I do not argue, maybe a hundred or two of these machines are required by all the Russian Armed Forces, but we can’t talk about continuous production. This is a dead end and withered branch of development.
The USSR Army already had similar vehicles: BTR-40 and BTR-152. These were good cars for their time, but they were abandoned and switched to the best equipment. So why step on this rake a second time? Is it not better to bring to the ideal those patterns that are available, while creating a new one? Or do you propose to close the production, which at least do something, and start producing this pepelats? For what?
There was already a similar situation with the Kalashnikov assault rifle. A caliber reduction was imposed. Arguments: less bullet, less recoil, less dispersion, more wearable ammunition, easier automatic ... What they did not promise, but the cartridge and charge did not become less. Dispersion did not become smaller, the bullet began to “shy away” from leaves and branches, more to be scattered by any gust of wind, to quickly lose speed and deadly force. (Yes, when it hit a person, it fell off the trajectory and could tumble, causing terrible wounds, but this is only when it gets into an unprotected place). The store holds 30 rounds of ammunition, and it holds and how many horns a soldier is assigned to a machine gun, so much he has in battle. The machine itself became a little easier only after replacing the wooden stock with a plastic stock. (Not sure if plastic is stronger than wood). In addition, half the world is still fighting on a normal 7,62 round.
Who can analyze the information, and reasonably say: what should this machine do and what kind of military equipment does it replace? Let's try to understand the essence of the problem. This is definitely a false move, similar to the AK-74.
I don’t enter into the discussion, I’ll read everything that will be objected to. And I ask without pathos and minuses. You can put at least a hundred minuses, but the problem does not clear up from this.
R.S. The message was sent with an error, so the first time did not pass. Please do not kick for typos, I went to school. Just click one, and another is printed. If you do not look at the monitor, then this garbage turns out ...

[MrBoris555]

I’ll tell you a secret, the whole world buys Mraps as it considers them necessary, and suddenly it turns out that this is not so, because one philosopher said so :)

And about the expediency of such machines, you can ask the guys who passed Afghanistan and Chechnya

[philosopher]

And you, dear, will you be at war with yourself throughout your history inside the country? Or are you drawn to Afghanistan again? Then you need such a "pepelats".
But, if without Chechnya or Dagestan, if without Afghanistan or colonial wars.
I set out my point of view as I could, in detail and reasonably. And you made a stinging remark at me.
I will be convinced by logic and arguments. I have read all the comments and there is no convincing justification. Only emotions.