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Five types of weapons, dangerous for the shooters themselves

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While firing at the target, the shooter must be confident in the safety of their weapons. However, not all samples of small weapons comply with safety requirements and have acceptable performance. Some examples of the past and the present differ from other developments by their characteristic problems that can lead to injuries or death. The American edition of The National Interest has compiled its anti-rating list of common and well-known, but unsafe types of weapons.


21 April edition has published a new article titled "The 5 Most Dangerous Guns (for the Shooter) on the Planet" - "5 is the most dangerous weapon on the planet (for the shooter)." The publication of the permanent author of the publication Charlie Gao was assigned to the headings of The Buzz and Security. As the name suggests, the author tried to make the top five most unsuccessful in terms of the safety of samples of modern small arms. The dubious list includes several well-known samples of three different classes.

At the beginning of his article, Ch. Gao recalls the obvious thing: when developing almost any type of small arms, designers take into account the safety of the operator. Numerous mechanisms are designed to fulfill such requirements and prevent unwanted shots.

However, some samples are unsuccessful in this regard. Their safety systems may simply not work due to various design problems. Other products normally shoot when you pull the trigger, but they are dangerous to the shooter due to the presence of fast moving parts or bursting hot gases. Ch. Gao proposes to consider some of the most dangerous weapons for the shooter.

Taurus PT 24 / 7

First on the list of unsuccessful weapons, the author introduced the Brazilian Taurus PT 24 / 7 self-loading pistol. This product has been in mass production since 2004, and was actively supplied to different customers. However, a couple of years ago it was criticized.



Ch. Gao points out that in theory the PT 24 / 7 pistol from Taurus should be of acceptable safety. In addition to the automatic fuse, it has several automatic devices. Provides a device to block the drummer and some other parts to prevent accidental shot when a weapon falls. However, in practice, it was found that some of these tools do not work and do not provide adequate security.

Among other structures, pistols PT 24 / 7 received the Brazilian police. Her staff found that some of these samples can fire a shot without pulling the trigger. When it turned out, the mass recall of serial pistols began. A little later, a collective lawsuit against the manufacturer appeared. The document stated that the pistol could fire when the hook was pressed, even with the non-automatic safety switch on. Also, the shot occurred when falling on a hard surface. Probably due to similar problems and bad reputation, Taurus decided to remove the PT 24 / 7 pistol from production.

GEMSTONES

The second participant in the rating is the British submachine gun STEN. This product is the most simple design appeared during the Second World War and allowed to quickly carry out the desired rearmament. However, it was not without problems.



Ch. Gao recalls that the STEN submachine gun was the main weapon of its class in the armies of the countries of the British Commonwealth both during the Second World War and after it. But despite this, it was quite dangerous for users and others. There are many cases where the "Wall" shot when falling to the ground. Moreover, in some cases, the submachine gun uncontrollably shot the entire store. During the spontaneous firing of a burst, a fallen weapon could rotate, sending bullets in all directions.

The cause of some of these incidents was the shooters mistakes. Submachine gun STEN could shoot as a result of a strike on the butt plate. At the same time, the bolt took off, delivered the cartridge and fired. In addition, due to some features of the design, this weapon did not always respond correctly to pressing the trigger. This problem increased the level of danger.

Blaser R93

The following sample, highlighted by The National Interest, is a German-made Blaser R93 hunting carbine. He went to the series in 1993 year and was made before 2016-th.



Ch. Gao calls the R93 carbine an expensive high-end hunting weapon. One of the main features of this product was a direct action sliding shutter, featuring high speed. Due to the rapid movement of the shutter, the shooter had the opportunity to make a second shot less than a second after the first. However, due to improper operation of the mechanisms, the shutter could break off and hit the shooter in the face.

According to official statements of the manufacturer, such problems can occur only when using self-loaded cartridges that create excessive pressure in the barrel. In this case, there is conflicting information about the disruption of the bolt when using prefabricated ammunition. Nevertheless, the R93 carbine still has a certain danger to the shooter: other rifles with similar automation usually do not tend to “shoot” the bolt in the face. Probably, Blaser recognized its mistakes, and now, instead of the carbine, the R93 offers customers the R8 product with improved mechanics, which prevents the shutter from breaking.

Winchester Model 1911

Next, the author makes a trip to the past and recalls the Winchester Model 1911 self-loading smoothbore rifle, produced from 1911 to 1925 year. This weapon was created as a response to the Browning Auto-5 rifle from a rival company, but it had a number of serious flaws. It is curious that some problems were associated with the need to bypass existing patents and the application of not the most successful solutions.



As pointed out by Ch. Gao, the fact that the Winchester Model 1911 was one of the world's first self-loading rifles had a negative impact on performance. This gun did not differ sufficient security. So, one of the problems was associated with automatics based on a rolling barrel. To prepare a weapon for a shot, some arrows pressed the butt into the ground, and then pressed their hands on the barrel. This could lead to accidental firing, injury or even death.

However, this was a problem in the training of users, and not in the construction of weapons. In this case, the design was also not perfect. To slow down the bolt and barrel on the Model 1911 rifle, felt rings were used that did not have high strength and durability. Rings quickly wear out and after the next shot could simply fall apart. The improper operation of the weapon without the means of braking again led to certain risks. As a result, the gun got the unflattering nickname "leaving widows."

Nambu Type 94

The latest example of unsuccessful and unsafe small arms is the 94 Type pistol of the Japanese designer Kijiro Nambu. This product was created in the early thirties and immediately showed all its minuses. K. Nambu planned to make a cheap and easy-to-use gun, but the real “Type 94” was more expensive than its predecessors, and also had serious security problems. However, this did not prevent to adopt it. Until the end of World War II, over 70 thousand of such pistols were manufactured.



Charlie Gao calls the Nambu Type 94 pistol, perhaps the worst weapon of its class from all used during the Second World War. The main disadvantage of such weapons, he calls the unsuccessful design of the firing mechanism. When the USM was cocked, some of its parts protruded beyond the frame and the casing, and could work as a second trigger. An accidental shot could have happened for a variety of reasons: from a strike, when trying to put a weapon in a holster, or simply from an accidental touch. At the same time there was a risk to hook the protruding lever when working with a fuse.

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It should be noted that the publication of The National Interest lists far from all the unsuccessful and unsafe samples of small arms. If desired, you can find other products that would easily take their place in the anti-rating according to the degree of danger. Nevertheless, according to the author of the article “The 5 Most Dangerous Guns (for the Shooter) on the Planet”, the five most dangerous to use samples look exactly like that.

It is curious that all of the above-listed C. Gao pistols, rifles and shotguns were unsafe due to design or technological errors. In one case, the automatic fuse did not cope with shaking, in the other there were malfunctions in the operation of the trigger mechanism, and in others there were problems with the strength of mechanisms and parts. It is easy to see that almost all of the samples listed had no problems at the concept level, while shortcomings related to the implementation of the main ideas.

Probably, all this could be corrected with proper development work, including testing and fine-tuning of finished samples. Nevertheless, the five products listed went into the series in the configuration that led to problems and risks. Numerous accidental shots, injuries or even death hit the reputation of these weapons, and in some cases led to the cessation of production.

Based on:
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-5-most-dangerous-guns-the-shooter-the-planet-25496
http://modernfirearms.net/
http://thefirearmblog.com/
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  1. RaptorF22
    RaptorF22 April 25 2018 06: 25
    +7
    You can also add MC 2001 to this with its drop-down store and a wonderful jamming of cartridges in the cartridge which can be cured only with the help of a fist of a boot and such a mother fellow As well as the Saigu 9x19 and the Boar 308 with its miraculous double feed of the cartridge and the risk of personal injury and a disassembled carbine winked
    1. AlexMark
      AlexMark April 25 2018 07: 23
      +11
      And any weapon whose design suffered from the quality of production request
      As if it is meant that such a thing as a firearm is in itself dangerous and should be treated appropriately, and not sent to the barrel when reloading. I’m talking about Winchester cases, you had to figure it out ... belay
      That's why the Brazilian police threw the gun to the ground, shook it, tried to pull the trigger while the safety was on. I would after this treatment, too, began to spontaneously shoot at the place of the pistol laughing
      1. RaptorF22
        RaptorF22 April 25 2018 08: 38
        +3
        But you can’t drive a frank marriage winked One must have a conscience request If you drive such a trash, then our customer will finally hammer on our carbines and rifles winked Or our weapons need to be immediately sold with a file and the manual fix the jambs yourself lol
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist April 25 2018 07: 44
      +2
      If you talked about blurting out the store, then you can recall the TT: he, especially the pistols of the first issues, had cases of the store falling out. There is a video review in YouTube :. “Beret” F92 is also noted there as a significant minus: an inconvenient fuse, because of an unsuccessful fuse, the Americans abandoned Bereta and this year they are taking it out of service. In YouTube I found about PY: a cartridge is heavy and skew, and in a combat situation it’s so “joyful”
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 April 25 2018 08: 04
        +4
        Quote: Monarchist
        If you talked about blurting out a store, then you can recall the TT: he, especially the pistols of the first issues, had cases of a store falling out.

        The loss of the store from the TT is simply due to the use of hollowed-out pistols on the board. Well, it is, my opinion.
        1. RaptorF22
          RaptorF22 April 25 2018 08: 33
          +2
          But shouldn't broken-down pistols be sent for re-melting?
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 April 25 2018 13: 12
            +7
            Quote: RaptorF22n
            But shouldn't broken-down pistols be sent for re-melting?

            Should. But in shooting galleries use with might and main. Until finally gouging.
            1. RaptorF22
              RaptorF22 April 25 2018 14: 43
              +1
              Is this a kind of security provision for them? Finish a meow weapon wink Or simply a lack of funds for the purchase of reliable weapons?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 April 25 2018 14: 48
                +3
                Quote: RaptorF22n
                Finish a meow weapon

                Yes, the devil knows them. As of now, I don’t really know, for 20 years I haven’t been engaged in shooting. hi
      2. RaptorF22
        RaptorF22 April 25 2018 08: 24
        +1
        That's exactly joyful when this happens at the shooting range winked But it’s not at all funny if a wild boar or a bear is 50 meters away from you, it becomes no laughing matter wink
        1. AUL
          AUL April 25 2018 09: 37
          +4
          I expected that the PCA will be on the list. According to the stories of the father who went to war with this machine gun, there was such a sin behind him - when falling to the ground, he could start shooting, and spinning, and did not calm down until he released the entire disk. Same as with STEN. My father said that he had witnessed several such cases.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh April 25 2018 15: 05
            +16
            And Uzi had the same thing.
            Commandos Ariel Sharon in the 50s and 60s, as combat bikes say, used this
            Uzi's peculiarity is this: at night during raids on Feddaev militants, they crept up to a yurt / shed, where the Feddaines slept and threw a charged Uzi over the canopy. He, when falling, began to shoot and spins. Panic. The outcome is clear.
            I didn’t drop Uzi, but once in the village’s patrol jeep, at night, he unexpectedly fired at me, hitting my butt when the jeep jumped on a boulder. I broke the side window from the inside. It’s good that it’s not in the chin from below. I was fined for glass and sloppiness.
  2. Monarchist
    Monarchist April 25 2018 07: 48
    +8
    You also need to add "handshake": if an individual's hands stick out from the fifth point, then ALL types of weapons are dangerous to him
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter April 25 2018 07: 57
      +4
      good I subscribe to your words! hi
    2. RaptorF22
      RaptorF22 April 25 2018 08: 31
      +3
      If you have double feed when shooting tempo it is especially unpleasant when shooting with Czechs then handshake doesn’t play a role whether at least 50 men with a hook or a green kid winked Personally, I saw this lucky man who miraculously shed his right eye after which he very unpleasantly expressed himself to our arms manufacturers fellow And he firmly decided not to buy the products of our plants anymore winked
    3. alex-cn
      alex-cn April 25 2018 09: 35
      +2
      As for the hand ....
      He took apart toz187, the owner of which managed to collect in the receiver, let's say, two and a half cartridges are one buried in the barrel, one in the box, one half sticks out of the store ... dismantled, but his pants were wet ...
      there was also a gas IZH-76, if I am not mistaken, it sinned very self-disassembling when firing ...
      1. AlexMark
        AlexMark April 25 2018 12: 38
        +15
        That there is 2,5 rounds in the receiver, here in the storeroom I found a photograph where a man managed to collect 8 bullets in the barrel))) I will not say for the source now, but the fastest thing is that he once saved from the "Hansa". I did not find S&W revolvers for .357 Magnum with a drum with 8 chambers, that is, the shooter also reloaded the weapon in the process of this um ... creativity.
        1. alex-cn
          alex-cn April 25 2018 13: 07
          +2
          Well, dummy ... I only found this in pneumatics! In the woodpecker! fool
          1. AlexMark
            AlexMark April 25 2018 13: 30
            +10
            In vain he tried to push the bullet with a bullet left, it was necessary to shoot to the end, so that it happened:

            As it turned out, the phenomenon is massive. It would be possible to justify such a situation if the weapon had the possibility of automatic fire, but not:





            Very talented people, I could not laughing
        2. DimerVladimer
          DimerVladimer April 26 2018 10: 13
          +1
          Quote: AlexMark
          That there is 2,5 rounds in the receiver, here in the storeroom I found a photograph where a man managed to collect 8 bullets in the barrel))) I will not say for the source now, but the fastest thing is that he once saved from the "Hansa". I did not find S&W revolvers for .357 Magnum with a drum with 8 chambers, that is, the shooter also reloaded the weapon in the process of this um ... creativity.


          Ho - cool guy - you should look for such a losharu :) !!!
  3. Aviator_
    Aviator_ April 25 2018 08: 40
    0
    Well, PPSH, too, after falling onto a concrete floor, could start to shoot and spin in all directions.
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya April 25 2018 08: 45
      +4
      As for firing bursts of nonsense. A single shot could have occurred, but when the hook was not pulled, bursts from the PCA were not possible.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh April 25 2018 15: 10
        +4
        This happens with machine guns. There is even a term in the IDF
        "frantic MAG" (MAG belgium). It can land the entire tape, even thrown (for fear) to the ground.
        And with any heavy machine gun submachine gun
        (Uzi, PCA) the same thing can happen.
        1. DimerVladimer
          DimerVladimer April 26 2018 10: 16
          +2
          Quote: voyaka uh
          This happens with machine guns. There is even a term in the IDF
          "frantic MAG" (MAG belgium). It can land the entire tape, even thrown (for fear) to the ground.
          And with any heavy machine gun submachine gun
          (Uzi, PCA) the same thing can happen.


          A spontaneous shot due to an overheated chamber is a well-known phenomenon.
          It is characteristic of any weapon that the HK416 or AK AKM
          Full video on YouTube where weapons are intentionally warmed up, checking for endurance.
        2. Grid
          Grid April 30 2018 04: 38
          +1
          And with any heavy machine gun submachine gun

          It is heavy by definition for a boom with a free shutter, and since the bulk of them fire from the rear whisper, it is enough to hit the bullet with the butt on the ground so that the bolt moves back and grabs the cartridge from the magazine, and then a shot will follow.
          The Germans in full growth faced this problem during the French company of the 40th year. And even introduced a special fuse in the MP-38/40.
      2. Aviator_
        Aviator_ April 25 2018 19: 50
        +1
        Very possible. I worked for me as a fitter, who went through an emergency in 1953-1956 (BB), so they had a PCA, which was dropped on the floor in the guardhouse, spun until the entire disk ran out. Fortunately, there was no blood.
        1. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya April 26 2018 01: 07
          +2
          Yes? I don’t remember something in the memoirs of veterans that they told that they were releasing the trigger, and the PPSh would continue to shoot and release the entire ammunition! It is simply not possible! PCA was subjected to all kinds of tests and hundreds of thousands of shots, and such a defect would have been noticed and until this defect had been fixed, then the PCA would not have been adopted. And from the front, proclamations from the war veterans would instantly begin to arrive, and Shpagin would be shot as a pest. This locksmith is a storyteller. And you, burdocks, ears hung up and listened.
          1. AlexMark
            AlexMark April 26 2018 06: 29
            +3
            Look attentively at the design of the firing mechanism. Strong wear and tear, dirt accumulated and the whole theory becomes quite a reality request
            1. Kot_Kuzya
              Kot_Kuzya April 26 2018 06: 35
              +3
              During the PPSh tests, 30 thousand shots were fired from one weapon, and it worked normally, did not continue to shoot when the trigger was released by the shooter. I doubt that in a combat situation 30 thousand bullets would be fired from one PPSh, weapons would be faster lost due to combat damage.
              1. AlexMark
                AlexMark April 26 2018 07: 09
                +2
                Well 30 thousand shots of sterile conditions can be safely divided into 10 when operating in a war. Somewhere PP in the slush marsh dipped, somewhere with earth-sand sprinkled, somewhere the owner of the weight of the whole carcass landed unsuccessfully, but still there was no time for normal maintenance, that's the whole secret smile They also did not come up with a weapon that would never under any circumstances "pleasantly" surprise its owner. Even the bows and those broke, torn bowstrings. Now, if you just take a steel block in your hands, wow, a truly reliable weapon will never fail.
                1. Kot_Kuzya
                  Kot_Kuzya April 26 2018 07: 35
                  +3
                  Do you know an example so that the PPSh, when it hits the ground, starts spinning from the shots and release the entire disk on its own? Or is it just tales?
                  1. AlexMark
                    AlexMark April 26 2018 13: 34
                    +2
                    I don’t have such information specifically about the PPSH, but, taking into account the similar behavior of the PP of similar structures, I would not categorically rule out such a situation smile
                2. Grid
                  Grid April 30 2018 04: 40
                  0
                  Now, if you just pick up a steel blank in your hands,

                  And that can break. There were precedents ...
      3. Grid
        Grid April 30 2018 04: 32
        0
        A single shot could have occurred, but when the hook was not pulled, bursts from the PCA were not possible.

        Possible. And they were. Do not forget about the quality of manufacturing wartime.
  4. Alex_59
    Alex_59 April 25 2018 10: 32
    +4
    But what about the famous Japanese machine gun which with a grease gun and which fingers was cut off to the one who serves the cartridges?
    1. DimerVladimer
      DimerVladimer April 25 2018 14: 34
      +2
      Quote: Alex_59
      But what about the famous Japanese machine gun which with a grease gun and which fingers was cut off to the one who serves the cartridges?


      And type 92 :)
      So there is nothing to poke your hands where you should not :))
      1. Grid
        Grid April 30 2018 04: 43
        0
        And type 92 :)

        Absolutely not right.
        This Type 11 possessed this feature due to its specific power system:
  5. Sasha75
    Sasha75 April 25 2018 11: 22
    +2
    Walter RR and RRK, add a fuse there after the shot went out and the weapon could not shoot, but they shoot at you))) remove the fuse from the fuse and shoot again, the police put a match under the fuse so that it does not become impossible to shoot.
  6. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya April 25 2018 12: 12
    +2
    But what about the Shosh machine gun, which received the title of the worst machine gun in the world? And about which the French themselves joked that he understands himself when shooting?
  7. Monarchist
    Monarchist April 25 2018 13: 55
    0
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: RaptorF22n
    But shouldn't broken-down pistols be sent for re-melting?

    Should. But in shooting galleries use with might and main. Until finally gouging.

    Shooting range and combat situation is the biggest difference. Once I molested front-line soldiers with a question: whose weapon was better? And one old man answered: "preferred Nagan," and the scouts ALWAYS had trophy pistols besides the personnel
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 April 25 2018 14: 32
      +2
      Quote: Monarchist
      And one old man answered: "preferred Nagan," and the scouts ALWAYS had trophy pistols besides the personnel

      I, too, was drinking vodka with intelligence from the Second World War. And asked what they used. So here. One had TT, the other had Browning. So not everything is so simple. hi
    2. RaptorF22
      RaptorF22 April 25 2018 14: 37
      0
      On the hansa the info slipped that they wanted to attach a butt to Nagan and thus make a carbine pistol like Mauser, if the idea succeeded, then an interesting carbine turned out wink There were ideas and Makarov to drag in such a Makar into a post-shooting rifle to upgrade smile
      1. dzuar saubarag
        dzuar saubarag April 25 2018 16: 51
        0
        Nagans - carbines were made. In 1911-1914 a very limited series was commissioned by the Border Guard Corps. The experiment was found to be unsuccessful.
        1. RaptorF22
          RaptorF22 April 25 2018 17: 07
          0
          In our current conditions, if you bring to mind I think the exhaust will be wink The problem is that there is demand, but there are practically no offers; recently I saw a video where a person gave 80 pieces for a cedar cedar; there is a request, but our arms companies apparently don’t really want to develop such a promising arms market; wink
        2. Avis-bis
          Avis-bis April 25 2018 20: 32
          +4
          Quote: dzuar saubarag
          Nagans - carbines were made. In 1911-1914 a very limited series was commissioned by the Border Guard Corps. The experiment was found to be unsuccessful.

          ... and now the hawk has appeared.
          1. dzuar saubarag
            dzuar saubarag April 26 2018 15: 54
            0
            The biggest disadvantage is traditionally slow loading and, especially, reloading!
      2. Grid
        Grid April 30 2018 04: 46
        0
        It was such a thing. Produced in a small series:
    3. Alf
      Alf April 25 2018 20: 39
      +1
      Quote: Monarchist
      and scouts ALWAYS had trophy pistols besides personnel

      And the scouts, going to the Germans to the rear, also took the MP-40. The reason is simple — there are no problems with the captured rear in the enemy rear.
  8. sds127
    sds127 April 25 2018 13: 55
    0
    Walter P88 -Also the store drops out. A very inconvenient button to extract ...
  9. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer April 25 2018 14: 31
    0
    I remember there were judicial proceedings in the USA, the death of a shooter at a shooting range from a double shot from a Colt 1911 - the problem of a double shot exists.
  10. ydjin
    ydjin April 25 2018 15: 09
    +1
    Cartridge-weapon-shooter, here is a bunch! Any link fails! But in general, I’ll remember laughing Better AK 74 nothing!
    1. Alf
      Alf April 25 2018 20: 41
      +2
      Quote: ydjin
      Better AK 74 nothing!

      Right now Carbine will run in and prove to you that the best automatic machine in the world is MP-40 or Thompson. laughing
    2. AlexMark
      AlexMark April 25 2018 21: 13
      +2
      Better AK 74 nothing!

      So after all AKM smile
    3. DimerVladimer
      DimerVladimer April 26 2018 10: 31
      +2
      Quote: ydjin
      Cartridge-weapon-shooter, here is a bunch! Any link fails! But in general, I’ll better, Better AK 74 there is nothing!


      Your special forces data has grown older that the delta that our Alpha HK416 and HK417 have purchased and used is a more accurate and reliable system under the NATO patron.
      Of course, in the conditions of Syria, where Soviet ammunition is more popular, the hundredth AK series is also used.
  11. Curious
    Curious April 25 2018 21: 33
    +7
    "Publication by Charlie Gao, Permanent Author"
    Maybe I'm wrong, but judging by the article, the author is the same specialist in small arms and other weapons, as well as the famous creative duo of this site.
    In any case, to classify weapons as dangerous on the basis of tales - this is how you can get a lawsuit.
    For example, Blaser R93 is one of the most popular samples of the company, which produced more than 220 copies.
    The problem associated with the violation of the integrity of the weapons at the Blaser company was investigated very seriously, all this was covered in the press.
    In the first twenty years of operation of the recorded facts of the destruction of the R93, only five are known. Of these, 3 - in Germany, 1 - in Norway, and one in Austria.
    The most tragic case was noted in 2004 - there was a rupture of a weapon by a German who re-equiped his .93 Win.Mag cartridge. a mixture of gunpowder 300 types (!). The resulting pressure in the chamber exceeded the maximum allowable by almost 3 times. The rifle was torn, the guy was badly injured, but he, being a pragmatic man, sued Blaser. For a long time, the plaintiff stubbornly refused to tell about the true causes of the tragedy until Blaser transferred all the materials to the DEVA State Institute, independent experts of which determined that there was no fault in the construction and material. The R5 carbine is designed for much higher pressures than those used to test weapons during state shooting, but there was absolutely transcendent pressure that would destroy any weapon.
    Other cases of destruction of R93 rifles were also associated with an attempt by shooters to further strengthen the already powerful cartridges like .300 Win.mag., 7 Rem.Mag., 8x68S, etc., by increasing the charge, which is a direct road to suicide . The arrows did not suffer, but the weapon fell into disrepair.
    Nevertheless, it is necessary to somehow review the distributed materials and not to publish such frank amateurish reviews.
  12. NordOst16
    NordOst16 April 29 2018 11: 53
    0
    The most dangerous weapon for a shooter is nuclear)))
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya April 29 2018 13: 37
      +1
      Isn’t it that nuclear weapons have been protecting the whole world from the World War for 70 years?
      1. NordOst16
        NordOst16 April 29 2018 22: 57
        0
        But this does not negate its danger when using a loved one for yourself)))