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This text is a continuation of the abridged translation of the book “Luftwaffe'45. Letzte Fluge und Projekte ”, made by a colleague of NF68, is the author of translations of many interesting topics related to the German air force. The illustrations are taken from the original of the book, the literary processing of the translation from German was made by the author of these lines.


“Luftwaffe in 45. Recent flights and projects. Continued. Part of 5


Aircraft FW-190 with Panzerblitz and Panzerschreck

April 9, 1945 command 6 air fleet to reduce losses from the impact of enemy fighters, it gave its pilots the order to strike at enemy ground forces from a minimum height, for which, after takeoff, German pilots should keep at a minimum height and strike only at lightly armored or unarmored targets, which gave hope for some success ... However, the command of the fleet knew that they would quickly install all aviation parts of missile launchers are unlikely to succeed due to enemy actions. Further, it was planned to transfer to the assault air group 1 / SG 9 of numerous squadrons armed with aircraft capable of carrying Panzerblitz and Panzerschreck missiles.

This concept, which was based on previously achieved success, extended to other squadrons. It was planned to equip the strike aircraft with rocket launchers, as well as pilot training. Now it concerned not only pilot-instructors, but also ground staff at the airfields in Erding, Manching and other cities. 11 April 1945 not only the air groups equipped with attack aircraft, but also numerous air groups of fighters took part in air strikes against the enemy. In particular, 2 / JG 3, 3 / JG 6, 1 / JG 52 and 4 / JG 51, the planes of which were to strike the enemy with strikes or accompany strike aircraft. The next day, the High Command of the Luftwaffe fleet 6 ordered air strikes to disrupt the preparation of the Soviet offensive in front of Unien.

An important role was given to squadrons of aircraft armed with Panzerblitz missiles, which were supposed to strike at the Soviet forces that had broken through in the direction of the Reich capital tanks... On April 14, 1945, the assault aviation squadron 3 / SG 4 still had 31 FW-190 F-8 and F-9 at its disposal, of which 21 were serviceable. Of the 23 FW-190 aircraft of the assault squadron 1 / SG 77, 12 aircraft could carry Panzerblitz missiles, of which 10 were serviceable. In the 2nd air group of this assault squadron, of 9 aircraft capable of carrying Panzerblitz missiles, seven were ready to departures. In total, the 9th Squadron of the SG 77 assault squadron had 13 FW-190 F-8 aircraft capable of carrying Panzerblitz missiles. The main problem was still the lack of fuel, which often made it impossible to perform test flights after the aircraft had been repaired. Serviceable aircraft stood idle for a long time on the outskirts of airfields, and were mainly destroyed by Allied aircraft, which were striking German airfields from low altitudes.


A large number of aircraft FW-190 F-8 with anti-tank missiles were shot down by enemy enemy anti-aircraft artillery, in an ever increasing number attached to tank formations

Despite the heavy losses in the conditions of the overwhelming superiority of the enemy, battles with the use of German assault aircraft continued to be fought.


Shortly before the end of the war, Förstersonde’s SG 113A anti-tank weapon system was ready for use against tanks.

14 April 1945. 42 German attack aircraft and fighter struck the Russian tanks, advancing on Reichsautoban in the area between Breslau and Lienit, having hit the attacked targets. 15 April squadron 9 / SG 4, consisting of seven FW-190 F-8 aircraft during the very first attack fired thirty-six Panzerblitz missiles on T-34 tanks, as a result of which four tanks were set on fire. During the second attack, three more T-34 tanks were destroyed. During the subsequent attack, carried out on the same day, the FW-190 F-8 trio launched another 16 Panzerblitz missiles, achieving hits in the T-34 tank and a self-propelled gun. In the next three attacks, 32 anti-tank missiles were launched, destroying four T-34 tanks. 15 April 1945, after retaliatory attacks by Soviet fighters, five German aircraft did not return to their airfields. One of the most successful measures with the use of Panzerblitz missiles was an operation against the Soviet troops at Koberwitz (Köberwitz) 16 in April 1945, when 12 heavy Soviet tanks were destroyed, another tank was damaged, and three artillery positions were also attacked. However, during this operation, six German aircraft, including five FW-190 F-8 with Panzerblitz anti-tank missiles, due to technical problems, were forced shortly before approaching enemy units to withdraw from strikes. Five more aircraft for several reasons, mainly due to problems with the launch systems, were also forced to interrupt participation in the operation. Despite this, the 12 pilots of the 9 / SG squadron 4 were able to launch Panzerblitz missiles at the artillery positions of the Soviet troops and a group of about forty vehicles. Four more German planes attacked the enemy train. In total, during 16 on April 1945, 453 German aircraft, including 51 missile-carrying aircraft, took part in the air operations on the Eastern Front. During these operations, the Soviet anti-aircraft artillery shot down two FW-190 F-8 aircraft from the 3 / SG 4 air group, while the wounded pilots were able to avoid captivity. 17 April 8 F-190 F-8 aircraft struck in the area of ​​the breakthrough of the Soviet troops on the front line between Brünn and Troppau. In the course of this strike, allegedly, one enemy heavy tank was destroyed and one SPG was damaged. In addition, 22 unarmed enemy vehicles were attacked. The pilots from the 2 / SG 2 air group during the attacks successfully covered the place of the accumulation of enemy tanks and vehicles under Weißwasser. Bombs and missiles "Panzerblitz" hit a large number of enemy vehicles. For a short time, these attacks led to the cessation of the movement of Soviet units in the attacked area of ​​the Reichsautobahn.


In addition to the Panzerblitz missiles, the Panzerschreck missiles, which are easy to manufacture, were used as defensive weapons. Launcher lower right under the wing

According to German fighter pilots and attack aircraft, five Soviet aircraft were shot down during the strike. 18 April 15 pilots of the 3 / SG 4 air group, using Panzerblitz missiles, attacked moving Soviet tanks southeast of Cottbus and Spremberg. 25 FW-190 F-8 squadrons 9 / SG 7 under Weissenberg (Weißenberg) and south of Spremberg (Spremberg) hit the fragmentation bombs and missiles "Panzerblitz". 15 from the existing 72 FW-190 aircraft of the 2 / SG 2 aviation group attempted to hit the enemy’s heavy tanks and thereby reduce the onslaught on the German units. 18 April 59 capable of carrying “Panzerblitz” missiles and German aircraft bombs struck a missile-bombing attack, hitting 27 tanks and 6 ACS of the enemy, and Fedlerfelhebel Feller from the X-NUMX anti-tank squadron of 10 (Pz) I’re running on I’d running I’d working on I’ve left I’m not working with I think that I’m carrying X-guns and X-Numx tanks and 2 I-6s. the adversary. However, due to the enemy’s strong air defense, the 23 pilot did not return to their airfields. 19 On April 6, the FN-190 F-8 and F-9 airplanes of the 3 / SG 4 air group delivered a significant blow to the enemy with Panzerblitz missiles near Brünn. 20 machines 2 / SG 77 aircraft group launched a missile attack on enemy vehicles in the area between Görlitz and Breslau. At the same time, due to the lack of aviation fuel, the air groups could use only a part of their machines. By 20 April weapon A new type could carry a total of 320 German planes. The Panzerblitz missiles were armed with 12 squadrons, and two more squadrons were armed with Panzerschreck missiles.

At the end of April 1945, the planes of the 1 anti-tank squadron. (Pz) / SG 9 was based on the airfields of Wittstock (Wittstock) and in Rechlin (Rechlin). The bloody battle for the capital of the Reich was nearing completion. Somewhat earlier, Soviet tanks reached the line Friedland-Neubrandenburg-Neustrelitz-Reinsberg (Friedland-Neubrandenburg-Neustrelitz-Rheinsberg, once only 20 km. From the space-based air group 1 / SG 9. So this air group in any case could not be based in Mecklenburg , she was ordered to seek refuge in areas occupied by Americans or British.As a result, the pilots with their FW-190 first relocated to the Sülte area, and later to the Lake of Schwerin. iner Nossek) from the 3 anti-tank squadron. (Pz) / SG 9. When the aircraft of this air group began to land at the Sülte airfield, they were suddenly attacked by British fighters. At the same time, the plane of captain Andreas Küffner (Andreas Kuffner) suddenly attacked. on the ground, the car overturned and the pilot suffocated before the ground staff who were nearby managed to free the pilot from the belts. One young noncommissioned officer managed to land the plane on his belly and he managed to escape by getting out of the cabin of his burning FW-190 F-8. Feldwebel machine Gottfried Wagners exploded on an oat field. The machine commander of the 1 anti-tank squadron was also shot down. (Pz) / SG 9, Lieutenant Wilhelm Bronen (Wilhelm Bronen), but severely wounded in the head Bronen managed to leave the plane. His parachute caught on the roof of the Schwerin Castle, and the pilot was rescued. Lieutenant Boguslawski (Boguslawski) managed to escape from the enemy's aircraft and successfully land. Chief Lieutenant Rainer Nossek could not receive a call for help from Lieutenant Josef Raitinger, whose plane was shot down by one of the 41 squadron Spitfires (41 th Squadron). The same fate was shared by three non-commissioned officers, who also could not get away from the British. A few days before the end of the 3 war in May 1945, the 13 anti-tank squadron. (Pz) / SG 9 was retrained in Welse (Welse), and at the same time, the high command of the Luftwaffe issued an order to disband this compound. The 3 / SG 4 Air Group was based in Kosteletz (Kosteletz) and 2 / SG 77 was based in Schweidnitz. The 1 / SG 1 air group until 3 in May 1945 was based in Graz-Talendorf (Graz-Thalendorf). At this time, most of the squadrons that had Panzerblitz missiles on equipment were listed only on paper or were in fact only links.

However, until the last day of the war, the German pilots of attack aircraft with their sudden attacks carried a threat to the enemy. The most significant was the case that took place in the first days of May. Then the Soviet tankers supporting their infantry units, considering the war already ended, placed their tanks in front of the Brandenburg Gate in two rows, as if in a parade. Several pilots from the 10 anti-tank squadron. (Pz) / SG 9, including Lieutenant J. Reitinger (Josef Raitinger), delivered one of his last blows against the enemy. The “Panzerblitz” missiles, as if during exercises, were fired from a distance of 900 meters, then bombs were additionally dropped when flying over the target. On the last drops of the FW-190 fuel, the F-9 returned to their airfields at Rechlin-Müritz (Rechlin Müritz). The last sorties included departures of the SG / 3 assault squadron still based in the Flensberg-Weiche airfield (Flensbeerg-Weiche) in Kurland.

Tests "Föstersonde" and "Zellendusche"

In addition to the anti-tank missiles that carried the FW-190, at the beginning of 1945, other weapons systems developed at that time were also tested. The special SG 113 device "Föstersonde", which was considered the anti-tank weapon of the future, was developed by Rheinmetall-Borsig.


Aircraft Hs 129 B-2 (serial number 0249), experienced carrier of the SG 113A "Förstersonde" weapon system

This weapon system was a vertically mounted numerous tubular launchers, the caliber of which was reduced from 5 to 4,5 during the development.

First, the pilot of the aircraft carrying this weapon system was to detect the target, then the system was launched, after which the automatic launch of five missiles in one salvo was carried out using sensors while the aircraft was flying over the target.


The FW-190 F-8 also tested the SG 113A "Förstersonde" system

General management of the development of this weapon system was carried out at the Graf Zeppelin Research and Testing Center (FGZ) under the guidance of a certified engineer, Professor G. Madelung (G. Madelung). As a carrier of this 18 XANUMX weapon system in January, 1945 used Hs 129 and FW-190 aircraft for testing, and the German Panther tank and T-34 trophy tank were used as experimental targets.

The launch of the missiles was carried out during the flight of airplanes at a height of nine meters above the target. The thickness of the horizontal armor of the tower of the Soviet tank ranged from 17 to 30 mm. During the tests carried out in Rekhlin, the armor of the American tank M4 A3 "Sherman", which had a thickness of 48 mm, was pierced. Vertically mounted launchers sloped backwards in 8 degrees. During the tests, carried out in addition to Rechlin also in Volkenrode (Völkenrode), rocket launches from minimum heights gradually allowed to achieve results in 90% hits. In early February, 1945 equipment was ready for five prototype aircraft. The first such aircraft was prepared for testing in Stuttgart-Ruit (Stuttgart-Ruit). The second aircraft was prepared for testing 6 February 1945 g. At the helm of this aircraft was a graduate engineer Dietrich (Dietrich), who overtook the plane from Langenhagen (Langenhagen), which is near Hanover (Hannover) in Nellingen located near Stuttgart. All necessary equipment for testing was prepared for installation on a second experimental aircraft in the middle of winter, and February 14 1945. the plane was ready for testing by a representative of the Luftwaffe test center Dr. Spengler (Spengler). The FW-190 F-8 was ready for testing several days earlier, but the first test flight was made on February 21 1945. Although the second prototype had more than the first FW-113 F-190 aircraft prepared for testing the SG 8 system, the 27 was carried out during the February 1945 of February. in Boblingen (Boblingen) tests, four missiles were able to hit the captured tank KV-1. The missiles were launched from a height of about 11 meters above the tank. Three of them hit the target, another rocket exploded close to the target. In general, during the tests concluded that this installation can be used in combat. However, it became necessary to improve the missile launch system. The sensor mounts were developed by Wandel & Goltermann, the electrical equipment by Siemens & Halske, the sensors were manufactured at the Graf Zeppelin R&D Center (FGZ). Armament for March 20 1945 manufactured by Rheinmetall-Borsig together with the Luftwaffe Testing Center in Rechlin, and elements for attaching a weapon system were developed by Focke-Wulf. Nevertheless, the use of this weapon system was nevertheless decided to be abandoned, since the Panzerblitz anti-tank missiles were easier to manufacture and, in practice, see Panzerblitz 2 missiles of 8,8 caliber. were able to effectively hit targets with a direct hit. At the same time, another special device was developed at the LFA Aviation Research Center, which received the designation SG 116 “Zellendusche”. To produce this weapon system, the basis of which was vertically mounted 30 mm. MK-103 guns with automatic descent, should also be the firm Rheinmetall-Borsig. The fire of the guns of this system was opened after the signal from the photocell was given, and simultaneously with the shot from the barrel of the gun, the counterweight was thrown back to compensate for the recoil. The SG 116 armament system was installed on at least two FW-190 F-8 aircraft belonging to the fighter group JG / 10. These two vehicles were to be used to train the crews of heavy bombers. In the EK 25 Parchim Luftwaffe test center, the SG 116 SG system was installed on three FW-190 F-8 aircraft. The triggering signal for opening fire was developed at the Graf Zeppelin research and testing center (FGZ). According to F.


Experienced carrier system SG 113A "Förstersonde" with a 300-liter discharged fuel tank suspended under the fuselage (front view)

After 8 in May 1945, the Allies seized the documentation and prototypes of the above-mentioned weapons systems for the subsequent use of these ground-breaking developments, as well as an incalculable number of other promising German weapons systems.
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  1. solzh
    solzh April 17 2018 15: 18
    +2
    About the Luftwaffe of '45 is interesting, but it would be even more interesting to read about the Red Army Air Force of the 1945 model.
    1. Proxima
      Proxima April 17 2018 16: 23
      +3
      Quote: solzh
      About the Luftwaffe of '45 is interesting, but it would be even more interesting to read about the Red Army Air Force of the 1945 model.

      Read, including about the 45th year, their aircraft crashed, only the smoke was, including jet, as shown on this cover of the famous book.
    2. yehat
      yehat April 19 2018 16: 56
      +1
      The most interesting thing in the 45th year in our Air Force was not in the downing of planes or attack, but in the field of improving control and improving the efficiency of org. structures.
  2. NIKNN
    NIKNN April 17 2018 15: 44
    +11
    It’s straight terminators of some sort ..., Somehow by chance they didn’t throw us back to Moscow ..., dozens of tanks laid down directly ... ufff we didn’t know how ...
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA April 17 2018 16: 17
      +3
      Quote: NIKNN
      It’s straight terminators of some sort ..., Somehow by chance they didn’t throw us back to Moscow ..., dozens of tanks laid down directly ... ufff we didn’t know how ...

      In addition to jokes - the losses from the actions of the German Air Force near Berlin were really unexpectedly large:
      Meanwhile, the situation in the Weissenberg and Bautzen areas was steadily worsening. More and more annoyed the Soviet troops activity in the Weisenberg region of enemy aircraft. From the raids of German aviation from 12.00 to 15.00 April 22 part of the 7th Guards. the mechanized corps in Weisenberg lost 6 T-34s, 3 SU-85s and 110 personnel.
      © Isaev
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN April 17 2018 16: 28
        +4
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Besides jokes - the losses from the actions of the German Air Force near Berlin were really unexpectedly large

        This is with the overwhelming superiority of aviation, low by that time the training of flight personnel (and after all, to shoot at the SC, and even possibly moving, you need to have not weak training). Moreover, the new weapons suddenly turned out to be so worked out that they didn’t even have childhood diseases ... recourse
        No, don’t think about what, I really didn’t come across statistics of losses of BT troops from enemy aircraft in 1945. I’m trying to draw an analysis from this as if from personal experience (in the past, the pilot worked in the SC and I know the dependence of skill on the level of training), which led to skepticism about the cases of PD described in the article, well, very cool ...
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA April 17 2018 19: 19
          +3
          Quote: NIKNN
          No, don’t think about what, I really didn’t come across statistics of losses of BT troops from enemy aircraft in 1945. I’m trying to draw an analysis from this as if from personal experience (in the past, the pilot worked in the SC and I know the dependence of skill on the level of training), which led to skepticism about the cases of PD described in the article, well, very cool ...

          Well ... I have the backlash stories of the end of the war model also cause some skepticism. Therefore, I decided to give data on the losses of our armored vehicles according to our documents.
          Alas, at first our air forces were unable to properly cover even the shock groups.
          In the journal of military operations 3rd Guards. tank army noted: “Enemy aircraft in groups of 20-25 aircraft bombed the battle formations of the corps. The actions of our aviation were not noted "

          Then they covered the direction of the main air strike, but the problem remained on the flanks:
          After forcing the river. Lobauer-Wasser, starting from 15.30 until dark, enemy aircraft in groups of 15–20 Yu-87 and FV-190 aircraft stormed parts of the mechanized corps of I. P. Korchagin. Applications for fighter cover remained unsatisfied - aviation acted mainly in the direction of the front’s main attack.

          The most eloquent of the activity of enemy aircraft is evidenced by the loss of armored vehicles of the 7th Guards. mechanized housing. Aviation, which usually gave units of loss of tanks and self-propelled guns, was found to be responsible for a significant part of the equipment lost by the corps of I.P. Korchagin. 20,5% of losses from aviation should be recognized as a record, even taking into account the fact that against the 7th Guards. The mechanized corps was operated by experienced anti-tank crews under the leadership of Hans-Ulrich Rudel.
          German aircraft also affected the SU-76 of the 8th self-propelled artillery brigade. In the report on the fighting of armored and mechanized troops of the 52nd Army, when describing the losses of the brigade, it was noted: "SU-76 burned down from artillery fire and aircraft - 29."

          All quotes are from Isaev A.V. Berlin on the 45th.
          1. NIKNN
            NIKNN April 17 2018 19: 22
            +1
            Quote: Alexey RA
            All quotes are from Isaev A.V. Berlin on the 45th.

            Ну request Nothing more to say ... hi
      2. Proxima
        Proxima April 17 2018 16: 41
        +2
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Besides jokes - the losses from the actions of the German Air Force near Berlin were really unexpectedly large

        Unfortunately, "expected." Germans We worked with well-functioning air defense infrastructure of the Berlin metropolitan area with its extensive network of airfields. And we took off at the very peak of the ravine with anything, even (in the idea of ​​Pokryshkin) from highways.
        1. NF68
          NF68 April 17 2018 16: 50
          +2
          Quote: Proxima
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Besides jokes - the losses from the actions of the German Air Force near Berlin were really unexpectedly large

          Unfortunately, "expected." Germans We worked with well-functioning air defense infrastructure of the Berlin metropolitan area with its extensive network of airfields. And we took off at the very peak of the ravine with anything, even (in the idea of ​​Pokryshkin) from highways.


          In addition to this, the Germans were able to use their planes against the Red Army, which could be temporarily transferred from the Western Front.
          1. YELLOWSTONE
            YELLOWSTONE April 17 2018 21: 15
            +1
            constantly, this front was disbanded a month before the events described,
            The main damage to Soviet troops was caused by 30mm Me-262 interceptor guns from air defense about which there is not a word in the article.
            for a time during the war between the fronts, aircraft always transferred
            1. NF68
              NF68 April 18 2018 16: 18
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              Quote: YELLOWSTONE
              There is no word in the article.


              This is a book. It contains approximately 300 sheets. Perhaps something else will be mentioned about Me-262.
  3. Dead duck
    Dead duck April 17 2018 16: 08
    +3
    there weren’t enough fighters, and they were doing nonsense request
    1. NF68
      NF68 April 17 2018 16: 48
      +1
      Quote: Deadush
      there weren’t enough fighters, and they were doing nonsense request


      For that matter, the Germans by this time generally had a lot of things missing. For example, anti-tank weapons of all kinds. The Germans could not radically influence the situation and therefore only snapped back using the latest resources.
    2. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin April 17 2018 17: 11
      +1
      Quote: Deadush
      there weren’t enough fighters, and they were doing nonsense request

      June 22, 1941 Germany had four thousand combat aircraft in the first line. And this is with the allies.
      And in early April 1945, Germany had over 5 thousand combat aircraft ...
      There were not enough qualified pilots and the balance of power was well, very different.
  4. shuravi
    shuravi April 17 2018 17: 17
    +2
    Quote: NIKNN
    Quote: Alexey RA
    Besides jokes - the losses from the actions of the German Air Force near Berlin were really unexpectedly large

    This is with the overwhelming superiority of aviation, low by that time the training of flight personnel (and after all, to shoot at the SC, and even possibly moving, you need to have not weak training). Moreover, the new weapons suddenly turned out to be so worked out that they didn’t even have childhood diseases ... recourse


    Yes, of course, the Germans have many posts. One Rudel to read how he "heroed" on a cannon thing.
  5. polpot
    polpot April 17 2018 18: 35
    +3
    Not the Uzbeks invented, they studied under the aces of the Luftwaffe, worthy of the grandchildren of Baron Munchausen
  6. faiver
    faiver April 17 2018 18: 59
    0
    really fabulous numbers for destroyed tanks ...
  7. Dead duck
    Dead duck April 17 2018 20: 51
    +3
    Quote: NF68
    For that matter

    Quote: Captain Pushkin
    22 June 1941 Germany had

    Scribes crawled out ... Wikipedia mastodons winked
    Though if not if (bite and dir) ... the fact remains - a massive alteration into attack aircraft and, as it were, bombers request
    1. NF68
      NF68 April 18 2018 16: 19
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      Scribes crawled out ... Wikipedia mastodons


      Will you be one of the couch professors for an hour? Ali write books yourself?
  8. rubin6286
    rubin6286 April 17 2018 23: 07
    +2
    All parts of the article, from the point of view of the factual material set forth in them, are of certain interest. The enemy was strong and until the last day showed fierce resistance. Along with the development of new types of weapons, the most effective methods of its combat use were worked out. The fact is that even in April 1945, the Germans did not lose hope for a split in the anti-Hitler coalition and a new miracle weapon that could change the course of war and world history.

    The archives were opened and today we know how close our allies were to concluding a separate peace with fascist Germany and joint action against the USSR in July 1945. If it were not for the iron will of Stalin, the heroism of the Red Army and the Soviet people, perhaps everything would have been so.

    An act of unconditional surrender of the Reich had already been signed, and in the allied zone of occupation there was still a government announced by Hitler as his successor to Grand Admiral Doenitz, about 30 German divisions remained unarmed and about 45 more were planned to be formed. German experts obtained more than 70 kg of enriched uranium , which during this period was transferred to the United States. This amount was enough to make several atomic bombs, similar to those dropped in Hiroshima in August 1945.

    The allies were sobered up by an avalanche of Soviet tanks that neither the "panzerblitz" nor the "panzer shreki" could stop. Marshal I.S. Konev said bluntly: “As long as you bring your atom, our tank will stand under each of your trees. In a day we will throw you back to the English Channel. "
  9. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov April 18 2018 12: 07
    +1
    Quote: faiver
    really fabulous numbers for destroyed tanks ...

    I did not see some kind of estimate of the number of tanks that destroyed the Luftwaffe. There is no mention, not to mention some statistics, of the loss of aircraft. Only once is it about their losses, but only from the Allied aviation.
    I can quote other numbers. So, for example, after April 25, 1945, all the combat readiness of the Me-262 with enough fuel was relocated to the East in the Czech Republic and they attacked the advancing Soviet troops and the Il-2 ground attack aircraft. Their targets on the ground were beaten by cars, not tanks. In general, their actions cannot be called effective. Losses hit hard and the result is modest.
    1. NF68
      NF68 April 18 2018 19: 54
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      Quote: Kostadinov
      There is no mention, not to mention some statistics, of the loss of aircraft. Only once is it about their losses, but only from the Allied aviation.


      The text of the book is laid out in parts. It is possible that if you look at all these parts, then there will be more data on losses. As far as I remember, the Germans noted that the Red Army reacted very quickly to the attacks of the German attack aircraft, significantly increasing the air defense of tank formations.
  10. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov April 19 2018 15: 27
    +1
    Here's what statistics he found on the Berlin operation: “Damaged tanks were selectively inspected. Statistics collection was a mandatory procedure: reports of combat damage were sent to the Main Armored Directorate of the Red Army. Subsequently, such statistics were used to develop technical requirements for new equipment. For 75 irretrievably lost tanks and self-propelled guns of the 1st Guards Tank Army damage was as follows: Of the 65 T-34 tanks inspected, 58 vehicles received fatal damage from artillery fire, from air strikes - 2 cars and only 5 tanks were knocked out by "Faustpatrons" {221}. All 7 IS-2 heavy tanks inspected were hit by artillery. Of the three ISU-443 inspected [122], two self-propelled guns were shot down by artillery, and one by the Faustpatron. "http://militera.lib.ru/research/isaev_av_zhukov
    /15.html
  11. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov April 19 2018 15: 37
    +1
    Some more statistics shed light on the fact that the Luftwaffe failed to destroy all Soviet tanks in the Berlin operation: "Extensive statistical material was also found in the" Report on the fighting of the 2nd Guards Tank Army in the 1st Belorussian Front on the rout of the Berlin [445 ] enemy groups and the capture of Berlin. ”During the operation, the army of S. I. Bogdanov irretrievably lost 209 combat vehicles. According to types, they were distributed as follows: 123 T-34, 53 M4A2 Sherman, 7 IS-2, 7 SU -122, 7 SU-100, 1 SU-85, 6 SU-76 {224}. Before the operation in the army, there were 305 T-34, 176 M4A2 Sherman, 32 IS-2, 41 ISU-122, 46 SU -100, 11 SU-85, 53 SU-76, total 667. Thus, the total irretrievable losses amounted to 31% of the number of tanks at the beginning of the operation, much lower than in the 1st Guards Tank Army. 92 vehicles could be restored and put into operation, in total 576 tanks were disabled, of which 259 were damaged by artillery fire, n 25, from the action of aviation - 29, from the Faustpatrons - 106, stuck on the road - 22, burned out (apparently, this category of losses included cars whose damage did not allow us to unambiguously determine the cause of death) - 135. I note that in the “disabled” category there is a double count at the expense of injured, but again put into operation combat vehicles. "