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From anti-tank to universal: evolution of portable missile systems

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The MBDA MMP development missile can be launched from confined spaces, and its minimum range is well suited for urban combat.


Man-portable anti-tank missile systems were developed to combat the main combat tanks. In the late 80s, British airmobile battalions were equipped with twice as many ATGMs as compared to standard battalions. 48, not 24, because their tasks included fighting the tanks of the Warsaw Pact and squeezing them out under attack helicopter fire. However, it is worth noting that in the Falkland War in 1982, the British army used the ATGM “Milan” not only for armored, but also for unarmored targets, for example, machine-gun crews.

Let's start with the newest anti-tank missile complex MMP (Missile Moyenne Portee - a portable medium-range missile), which entered service, in this case the French army. The complex of the fifth generation, rocket and launcher, fully digital. From the very beginning, the DFID was developed by MBDA as a universal system, since the experience of past conflicts showed that the French army used most of the missiles in targets that did not even remotely resemble a tank.

From anti-tank to universal: evolution of portable missile systems

The fifth generation MMP rocket was developed by MBDA as a replacement for the obsolete Milan complex.

French DFID

The requirements of the French army included the fight against the objectives of the three main types: modern main battle tanks (MBT), buildings and facilities and manpower in open areas. Other requirements for the new complex included the conduct of hostilities in urban environments, that is, a reduced minimum strike distance and the possibility of launching from confined spaces. Two elements make the MMR complex truly universal, a combat unit and a method of destruction. In the warhead of production Saab Bofors Dynamics Switzerland used the latest developments in the field of energy materials and technology lining cumulative projectile. Although the information on the complex is rather scarce, it can be assumed that the development of molybdenum claddings of different thickness used in other anti-tank missiles with cumulative combat units could also be used in this new weapon system. As for a different method of destruction, then in this case the rocket body behind the main rocket engine, in the place where the main charge is located, has notches for the formation of fragments of a given shape and weight.

In order to obtain a different type of impact in the final section, a programmable fuse is included in the system, while the use of a single universal combat unit of a new generation reduces the logistic load compared to specialized missiles. When firing at a tank, the leading charge immediately behind the dual-mode homing head (thermal and television) and the inertial measurement unit detonates first, initiating detonation of the dynamic protection units, while the distance between the leading and main charges ensures that the cumulative jet generated last will focus on the main armor in order to obtain maximum impact. MBDA declares armor penetration "more than 1000 mm rolled uniform armor." How many millimeters lies behind the word “more” is an open question, since modern technologies must provide armor penetration beyond 10 charge diameters. Given that the rocket has a diameter of 140 mm, and the prefragmented case reduces it somewhat, we can safely assume that armor penetration should be much more than a meter of rolled armor, because the rocket of much smaller diameters pierce almost one and a half meters.

For some, it may seem unexpected, but when used on structures (infrastructure of any type), the leading charge does not detonate. According to MBDA, the impact of the leading charge can reduce the effectiveness of the main charge, so the latter detonates with a corresponding delay. The company carried out complex tests using the MMP rocket at buildings, caves and other objects in order to confirm the effectiveness of the warhead in a concrete-cutter mode.

And, finally, another equally important application of the MMP complex is the fight against manpower in an open area, when the distribution of the dispersion of kinetic fragments is a key parameter for ensuring maximum efficiency. To achieve maximum impact rocket flies on a steep (hinged) trajectory. This allows you to get a better distribution of fragments with less dispersion and gives the operator a few additional seconds to refine the guidance parameters, which is important, since the human response time is almost constant. As a rule, in the concrete-breaking mode, the MMR rocket flies along a sloping (flat) trajectory, whereas in the anti-tank mode it flies along a hinged trajectory and when meeting a tank, a tandem shaped charge is triggered. This mode is used by default, unless the operator chose otherwise before starting.


In the anti-tank mode, the default MMP rocket flies along a hinged trajectory, attacking the target from above, which allows you to hit the main battle tank in the most vulnerable places

Highly versatile rocket

As for the further development of the DFID complex, there is a debate on a possible increase in the range of action. Obviously, this will require a higher launch speed. The existing rocket accelerator provides the launch of the rocket at a speed of 15 m / s, after which, more than a meter from the launcher, the main rocket engine begins to work, which makes it safe to work with the complex in confined spaces. Increasing the speed will mean not only limiting the use of MMD in the premises, but also increases the minimum distance of defeat, and this is a key parameter in urban combat.

It is clear that the range limitation of 4 km corresponds to the French requirements, but, according to the developer, without large modifications, the missile's range can be slightly increased. However, when using the complex MMP as an infantry system, direct visual fields are limited. All this speaks of the enormous potential of the system under consideration. The MMP complex is a modern, fully digital system, digital technologies are widely used in the rocket and the launcher, which allows to simplify its integration into ground platforms. The MBDA complex has already been selected by the French army for installation on the new reconnaissance armored vehicle Jaguar 6x6, while installation on other towers is also considered to be a fairly simple task. In addition, the company is already looking at the possible integration of the rocket into a tactical drone. There is some interest in installing the DFM on light boats and ships, mainly special forces units, and MBDA is already considering ways to implement such solutions. With regard to integration into helicopters, in order to determine the needs of potential customers, the company conducts a feasibility study and market research.


The LR2 rocket is the newest member of the popular Spike family. It has a new uncooled GOS and a new universal warhead.

Israeli rich combat experience

History The use of Spike anti-tank systems, developed by Rafael Advanced Defense Systems, began during the Arab-Israeli war 1973, when the Israeli army had to repel the enemy’s massive tank attacks. The ancestor of the family was the Spike NLOS model (non-line of sight - out of the line of sight), which in fact can be attributed to artillery weapons because of its 30 km range and method of destruction.

Currently, this family has expanded significantly, it is replenished models Spike SR (1,5 km). Spike MR (2,5 km), Spike LR (4 km), Spike LR2 (new version with 5,5 km range) and Spike ER (8 km). With the exception of two short-range SR and MR self-guided missiles, all Spike missiles are equipped with a reel with a fiber optic wire connecting it to the launcher.


The result of hitting a Spike LR2 rocket in a reinforced concrete wall. New realities require portable missile systems to increase their ability to combat unarmored objects.

The latest version of the Spike LR2, introduced in the middle of 2017, was designed from the very beginning as a universal system. Spike LR2 is lighter than the previous LR version due to the use of modern materials. In addition, this rocket has a lower activation time due to the uncooled thermal imaging sensor of the new generation, which provides a better image compared to the previous Spike LR model and allows you to abort the fire mission and reuse the same rocket. The missile’s capabilities were also enhanced by the addition of an inertial navigation system that allows you to launch a rocket into the target area and, in flight, refine targets for impact using day / night sensors in the nose and transmit the image via fiber optic cable in real time. Only available on the larger Spike NLOS. The LR2 model is available with two different warheads: anti-tank and universal. The anti-tank warhead with a tandem shaped charge is optimized to destroy heavily armored targets. In order to cope with modern goals, Rafael has provided it with some versatile features. At the expense of the push-button switch, the operator can switch to the concrete mode when the warhead breaks through the wall and detonates inside. This significantly increased the functional flexibility of the anti-tank option, but Rafael decided to move on and developed a universal warhead for their LR2 rocket. It includes a smart fuse that is monitored by the operator in real time before the meeting with the target, thus allowing you to switch from one object to another until the very last moment.


Spike NLOS and Spike ER missiles are installed on Israeli ships fleet to combat coastal targets

A rocket with a universal warhead can pierce a wall of reinforced concrete 200 mm thick (including metal reinforcement) by creating a pressure of more than 340 bar. After penetration, the FTB (Follow-Through-Bomb) warhead detonates with a delay, creating a thermobaric effect indoors. In recent years, these anti-bunker capabilities have been demanded by many users, Spike complexes in various versions are in service with the armies of 28 countries. In addition to the break-through mode, a remote mode was added, allowing the operator to select the detonation of the warhead in the air and hit targets in shelters. All these capabilities make the Spike LR2 rocket an effective tactical solution for most operational tasks, from anti-tank and anti-ship to anti-bunker and anti-personnel.


Rafael has developed an ultra-lightweight Spike missile launcher for light aircraft.

While the Spike MR, LR and LR2 variants can be considered portable, since the manufacturer indicates the mass of these 13 kg rockets, the mass of the long-range Spike ER with the launch container is 34 kg. The complex is available in versions for mobile combat platforms and helicopters, while the rocket can be launched from the same launcher that is used to launch MR, LR and LR2 missiles. The missile is equipped with a fragmentation-armor-piercing warhead with a delayed-action fuse, which, after penetrating the building structure or the side of a naval vessel, has an effective high-explosive impact inside the object. Recently, the Spike ER was selected by the Philippine fleet for installation on multi-purpose assault boats, three of which were introduced to the fleet in May 2017.

As for the Spike NLOS, the first member of this family, this rocket was upgraded with a fragmentation-armor-piercing warhead with an impact on the target like the effects of the above-described ER variant. The guidance system allows you to hit targets with high accuracy, which reduces indirect losses when shooting at buildings, and in naval combat, by destroying superstructural superstructures and neutralizing command and control points, avoiding ship flooding and possible conflict escalation.


Swedish portable anti-tank complex RBS-56B Bill 2 оm Saab Dynamics implements the principle of remotely detonating a shaped charge over the target (in the place of the smallest thickness of armor)

Swedish art

The Swedish RBS-56B Bill 2 ATRA developed by Saab Bofors Dynamics is a further development of the Bill 1 variant. It implements the principle of remote blasting of the cumulative explosive charge above the target (in the place of the smallest armor thickness). The semi-automatic missile guidance system along the line of sight is provided by a fiber optic cable connecting the rocket with the launcher.

Two alternative modes were added to the Bill 2 rocket, which made it multitask. When firing at tanks, the rocket is launched on a hinged trajectory, while the magnetic and optical sensors are active, and special algorithms optimize detonation above the chain. In the launch mode, the rocket flies along the line of sight, all sensors are disabled, and detonation is triggered by a percussion fuse. When shooting at weak targets, including manpower, the rocket is launched on a hinged trajectory, in this case only the optical sensor is active, and special algorithms also optimize the moment of detonation. The company refuses to provide information about any possible developments aimed at improving the Bill 2 variant.



Short-range missiles: versatility from the start

As a consequence of recent conflicts, more and more relatively cheap portable systems with a small radius of action appear. Priority goal types lead developers to focus on universal capabilities. In addition, weapons become controllable, since appropriate accuracy is necessary to reduce indirect losses. To improve combat effectiveness in urban environments, the minimum range is reduced as much as possible (taking into account the safety of the calculation). At the same time, taking into account the flight time, all these systems undoubtedly belong to the homing, launched on the "shot-and-forget" principle.

Israeli small Spike SR rocket

The most developed system in service with at least one customer is the Spike-SR (Short Range) short-range missile from Rafael. To capture a target, an uncooled infrared HOS of the 3 generation installed in front is used; its activation time is less than 6 seconds. While in the long-range Spike missiles the sensor head is installed in the gimbal, it is fixed for the SR rocket. For missiles available various warheads. The most common of them - anti-cumulative, it is designed to combat light and medium armored vehicles. Fragmentation and concrete-fighting combat units are less popular, the latter was taken from the Matador missile complex. The Spike SR missile system entered service with the Singapore Army.


To capture targets, the Spike SR rocket is equipped with an uncooled GPS

German abilities: Enforcer

After three years of development, the European manufacturer of rocket systems, MBDA Germany, at the end of 2018 and the beginning of 2019, will conduct qualification tests of its Enforcer complex. The system used the results of research conducted in the framework of various programs of this company. In order to reduce the cost of the Enforcer complex, it is widely applied the principle of modularity and ready-made components. Its characteristics comply with the requirements of the German Bundeswehr, which intends to supplement the existing system with the existing RGW90 AD missile system (in the German army received the designation Wirkmittel 90) from Dynamit Nobel Defense.

The Enforcer complex will be equipped with an Airbus OS Optronics Dynahawk removable sighting device, including an optical sight with a magnification of x5.5, a laser range finder with measurement accuracy up to 1 meter at maximum distance, atmospheric sensors (pressure, temperature and wind speed) and automatic target capture and tracking. The Dynahawk sight allows you to program the fuse and choose, depending on the target, between the air blasting, the shock mode and the shock mode with a delay. The rocket is equipped with an optoelectronic homing plant that uses an innovative image stabilization technology (“virtual gimbal”), that is, the optical homing head is not fixed in the gimbal suspension, but rigidly in the rocket body.


Light rockets, such as the MBDA KFK Enforcer, are mainly designed to destroy structures and combat manpower, but they are also effective against light and medium armored vehicles.

The Enforcer complex is fully versatile thanks to the multipurpose high-explosive fragmentation warhead developed by TDW. The universal warhead allows you to successfully fight against unprotected targets behind cover, buildings and lightly armored vehicles. After tests at fixed targets conducted at the end of 2017 at distances from 1000 to 2000 meters, tests were performed in an air blast mode. One of the missiles on the test was released from a light launch tube from carbon fiber developed by MBDA Italy. MBDA has been working tirelessly to reduce the minimum launch range in order to better meet the requirements of urban combat. Other options are expected, although in MBDA they are not inclined to give information on them.


In the KFK Enforcer complex, developed by MBDA Germany, many off-the-shelf components have been used to reduce the cost. The qualification tests of the complex should begin by the end of the year.

Sweden again: ULM

The study of the so-called concept of Ultra Light Missile (ultralight rocket), the company Saab Dynamics launched in 2014 year with the aim to get a result-controlled ammunition for the 84-mm grenade launcher Carl Gustaf. The program is at an early stage and there is very little information on it. According to Saab Dynamics, individual components are already almost available, work is currently underway on fitting them into the caliber 84 mm. The rocket will have a soft launch system, that is, the rocket engine will start to work after the rocket leaves the launch tube. Since the folding rudders and carrying wings of the rocket do not “fit” well with the rifling of the barrel, the preferred solution is to place the ULM rocket in a container, which in turn will be inserted into the Carl Gustaf launch tube. However, this gives a very small loss in the caliber, which can affect the warhead. In this regard, other options are considered, because the rocket is at an early stage of development. Saab Dynamics intends to keep the rocket launch sequence as close as possible to the launch algorithm of any other shot for Carl Gustaf.


In order to improve the range and accuracy of its 84-mm Carl Gustaf grenade launcher, Saab Dynamics began studying the concept and development of an ultra-light Ultra Light Missile rocket with a range of about 1500-2000 meters

The rocket will have in the bow of the homing head with the capture target before launching a rocket. Its type will depend on the cost-to-performance ratio, although installation of a head operating in two ranges is not excluded. What can be said for sure with certainty is that the ULM rocket will have multi-mode attack characteristics, since an attack from above is necessary to destroy tanks. Decisions on the types of combat units have not yet been made, although the two most obvious choices are multipurpose and anti-tank cumulative. With the ULM rocket you can launch from limited spaces, it will weigh about 5 kg and have a range of one and a half to two kilometers. The schedule of this program will be influenced by the interests of the customer and for this reason, Saab Dynamics does not make assumptions about the date of the appearance of the new rocket.



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  1. Vard
    Vard April 12 2018 06: 20
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    Reading about what people thought up for killing their own kind of horror takes ... But it was smooth on paper ... More or less on tests ... But in real life usually the tank remains alive ...
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh April 12 2018 12: 02
      +1
      Don’t tell ... And in Lebanon, Cornet pinched our tanks, and
      and in Syria, Tou - Syrian. ATGM caliber 150 mm or more
      still dangerous for any tank.
      1. VictorZhivilov
        VictorZhivilov April 12 2018 15: 25
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        You can ask for clarification how many of your tipped tanks were equipped with KAZ Trophy? smile

        https://topwar.ru/55284-kompleks-aktivnoy-zaschit
        y-trophy-oprobovan-v-usloviyah-realnyh-boev.html
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh April 12 2018 15: 27
          +3
          There was no trophy in 2006 yet. Actually due to losses
          from ATGMs in Lebanon and they began to mount it so forcefully
          to all tanks. As the saying goes: "misfortune helped."
          1. ADT
            ADT April 12 2018 20: 40
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            Maybe I'm wrong, in my opinion by 2006 the trophy already existed. It just was not installed on the equipment. I remember the broadcast of the Israeli television "bulldog". In it, the current politician, and then the TV presenter Lapid, assured us that we do not need tanks, that they are expensive, and are idle, and therefore we need to cut costs on their production and modernization. Under pressure from people like him, the trophy program was frozen. Let now the parents of the dead tankers say "thank you" to him.
  2. sergo1914
    sergo1914 April 12 2018 09: 05
    0
    It will not reach the plane / helicopter, the tank / concrete wall will not break through, for manpower it is unnecessary. What for? Specialization drives.
    1. Gene Concrete
      Gene Concrete April 12 2018 11: 10
      +7
      They will not catch up with a plane and a helicopter, ATGMs fly relatively slowly. The effectiveness of work on tanks, concrete fortifications and manpower is described in detail in the article, but the Chukchi is not a reader, the Chukchi is a commentator.
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 April 12 2018 11: 54
        +1
        Quote: Gene Concrete
        The effectiveness of work on tanks, concrete fortifications and manpower is described in detail in the article, but the Chukchi is not a reader, the Chukchi is a commentator.


        Tandem warhead, hinged trajectory - is this described? Look at the size of the rocket, and then calculate the effectiveness of warheads. Unconvincing.

        About Chukchi - brilliant. I rarely meet with such a level of self-criticism. But objectively. I confirm your self-esteem.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh April 12 2018 15: 35
        +2
        That's right, you won’t get universality here.
        You can try to make a universal air missile a universal one,
        like Hellfire, learning how to somehow launch it into the land with laser illumination.
        But why?
    2. Graz
      Graz April 13 2018 04: 29
      +1
      here it’s painfully sophisticated and the price of such products is probably several times higher, the mortar and the grenade launcher have already been made for a long time, and there is nothing to be wise here, the best enemy is the good
  3. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I April 12 2018 09: 28
    +2
    When I "spotted" the heading "about universality", for some reason I decided that it would be about the current trend in the development of tactical missile systems such as: <anti-tank + anti-helicopter> .... But it turned out to be a "slightly" different trend .... like : <anti-tank + assault (anti-bunker, in NATO style)> One of the main components in such "products" is a "multi-purpose" warhead. (of course, and a seeker ..., but it's better to talk about this separately) The presence of a 2-in-1 warhead "(and sometimes, and" 3 in1 ") allows the same missile to be used against armored vehicles and against infantry or" bunkers ". The topic of" universality "of ammunition is being addressed in Russia, but, in my opinion, less successfully, than NATO. Russian ATGMs ("Cornet", "Chrysanthemum", etc.) include, in addition to AT missiles (cumulative "tandem"), and "assault" (with a thermobaric warhead) ... But anti-tank and assault rockets are practically different "products"! On the battlefield, with a dynamically changing situational situation, try to "guess" what type of missiles to "grab", and in what quantity ... And in this "plan", the NATO approach "is very expedient!" In designing "multipurpose" warheads different technical solutions are used, but it is better to talk about this separately ... The main thing is that such solutions allow the use of the same ammunition for armored targets and for "infantry" ("bunkers") ... and it is also possible to create "double-average" ammunition (anti-tank + anti-helicopter) They can cite the example of the Russian "Kornet-D", but even here, in fact, there are 2 different missiles ... which means the problem is: how to "guess" which missiles are needed more? would create a variant, well, for example, a "Cornet" with 2 EFP-charges (like TOW-2B ... This would allow such an option to be used as an anti-tank and anti-helicopter ...
    1. Vladimir 5
      Vladimir 5 April 12 2018 12: 14
      -1
      Helicopters appear to strike for a short time, but targets on earth are more permanent. Therefore, the development of universality for ground targets is correctly defined .: 3 in 1. Air defense is a completely different song, different speeds and distances, and require other specialized weapons. Of course, you can use it on approaching helicopters, as in Afghanistan helicopters shot down from RPGs, but adding combat characteristics for ground targets and adding anti-aircraft versatility, is another question and whether they’ll be executed at a sufficient level .. ..
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I April 12 2018 12: 25
        +2
        Actually, I didn’t mean that it was necessary to create such a “universal” missile that it would be possible to “throw away” all ATGMs and MANPADS ... But if, during development, the “picture” is made to give anti-tank capabilities to an anti-helicopter (at least , as a "bonus") without significantly complicating and increasing the cost of the basic option, it is advisable to use this opportunity ....
      2. Graz
        Graz April 13 2018 04: 32
        0
        As for me, for one launch platform, making rockets for different needs is the best option
  4. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo April 12 2018 14: 58
    0
    And is it not too expensive to spend a guided missile to suppress one machine gun nest?
    The French clearly forgot their own traditions of the First World War.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 12 2018 17: 14
      +2
      Quote: Narak-zempo
      And is it not too expensive to spend a guided missile to suppress one machine gun nest?

      I will provide some reference data on the consumption of shells. In V.O.V. If 76-mm - 120 shells or 122-mm howitzer -80 shells are required to suppress one machine gun nest in a field setting, then I ask you to calculate how much time you will "hang around", waiting for the artillery to arrive and when it will shoot the "norm "shells; and how many fighters during this time will hook the "machine gun nest"?
      1. VictorZhivilov
        VictorZhivilov April 12 2018 20: 02
        0
        Well, the experience of the Second World War and subsequent conflicts showed that it is very easy to fight DOT'ami ...

        http://warwall.ru/photo/soldaty/unichtozhenie_dot
        ov / 4-0-2842

        Now for such tasks there is an RCG.
        1. Narak-zempo
          Narak-zempo April 13 2018 09: 01
          0
          There is also a tactic of "living waves", very economical in terms of material resources http://navoine.info/human-wave.html
        2. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I April 13 2018 09: 59
          +2
          Quote: VictorZhivilov
          Now for such tasks there is an RCG.

          With RShG still have to crawl! From what distance does the RCG take and from which art (and now tepericha and URC)?
  5. alex-cn
    alex-cn April 12 2018 16: 05
    0
    Than to make a universal rocket, it is better to make two special ones.
    1. kashcheevo egg
      kashcheevo egg April 12 2018 16: 20
      +2
      yes, and carry twice as much good in the form of rockets and other things
      1. Vladimir 5
        Vladimir 5 April 12 2018 19: 09
        -1
        The word "carry" has long been replaced by logistics and support in all large armies, and the time is not far when the UAV will deliver any request to the battlefield by airmail. True, in the Russian version, logistics, as a rule, will not work, therefore continue to rely on "maybe" and your hump ...
      2. Graz
        Graz April 13 2018 04: 35
        0
        universal will always be more expensive in terms of money and will always lose to specialized ones, maybe they are needed for special groups, but not for ground forces in general
  6. Operator
    Operator April 12 2018 17: 16
    0
    Spike - sucks (flies at a speed of 180 m / s due to a leash in the form of an optical cable), steers a fully homing KFK Enforcer with an electronic "gimbal" of the GOS.
    1. stone
      stone April 12 2018 19: 19
      0
      KFK Enforcer is an unfinished copy of the mini Spike, which has long been washed down, unlike the MVDashny
      1. Operator
        Operator April 12 2018 19: 40
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        Where is Israel with sloppy Spike and where is Germany with advanced Enforser? laughing
        1. ADT
          ADT April 12 2018 20: 33
          +2
          Kindergarten.
    2. Graz
      Graz April 13 2018 04: 36
      0
      in different situations, the control and guidance method may require a different one, but we should think about combining all the solutions into one complex
      1. Operator
        Operator April 13 2018 08: 17
        0
        The fee for an additional method of guiding ATGM on an optical wire is the flight speed of 180 m / s instead of 300 m / s (at least).

        Easier Golem Spike on hand to the goal to carry laughing
  7. ADT
    ADT April 12 2018 20: 25
    0
    Chinese forgot to mention.
    The Xiu Jian system is declared as a portable weapon for equipping infantry and special forces designed to destroy low-flying aircraft, helicopters, and in particular unmanned aerial vehicles, as well as ground stationary targets and automobile or lightly armored vehicles.

    The Xiu Jian rocket has a starting weight of 4 kg, a length of 690 mm and a caliber of 60 mm, and is launched from a lightweight portable plastic reusable tubular launcher. The warhead is not revealed, but, presumably, is a high-explosive fragmentation. The system uses a cheap photoelectric homing system, with an appropriate sight on the launcher and a photoelectric sensor on the rocket. The range of destruction of an air target is declared up to 2 km, and ground - up to 3 km, with a minimum range of 150 m. The missile is also supposed to be used as a miniature weapon of the "air-to-surface" class (mainly to equip light UAVs), while the firing range may reach 5 km.
  8. ADT
    ADT April 12 2018 20: 45
    0
    In general, a truly universal first-born, and, moreover, quite successful, can be called the ADATS system. I do not really understand why this direction is not particularly developed.
  9. Spike Javelin Touvich
    Spike Javelin Touvich April 12 2018 22: 13
    0
    Oh, Oleg (professor) would be here; he would have put everything on the shelves here crying
  10. Russ_Dry
    Russ_Dry April 12 2018 23: 57
    +1
    on the first picture in the tail of the rocket is “fiber optic communication channel” .... uh ... is this a cable rocket? I thought that the control over the wires goes with the help of a metal wire and not glass.
    maybe they’re just used to say that and out of habit wrote and there is still the "optical communication channel" =)
    I remember in France, local blacks rebelled and burned cars, as they were called African-Americans in our media, although they are Afro-French or even Afro-Europeans by such word formation. which does not negate the fact that they are blacks
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 13 2018 00: 43
      +2
      Quote: Russ_Dry
      they were called African-Americans, although they are still Afro-French or even Afro-Europeans by such word formation. which does not negate the fact that they are blacks

      good Oh, this "tolerance"! Often she becomes "silly" in the desire to "crawl" everywhere!
  11. shuravi
    shuravi April 13 2018 18: 33
    +1
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    Actually, I didn’t mean that it was necessary to create such a “universal” missile that it would be possible to “throw away” all ATGMs and MANPADS ... But if, during development, the “picture” is made to give anti-tank capabilities to an anti-helicopter (at least , as a "bonus") without significantly complicating and increasing the cost of the basic option, it is advisable to use this opportunity ....


    Will not work. Too big differences.
    The MANPADS guidance system is essentially primitive. For the simple reason that the maximum that is needed is to highlight the contrasting target against a fairly uniform background.
    Whereas ATGM works much harder. Where priority is manual guidance, and the use of GOS is possible only in a landfill.
    But expanding the capabilities of anti-tank systems for the possibility of hitting low-flying air targets is necessary.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 14 2018 13: 32
      +2
      Quote: shuravi
      Will not work. Too big differences.
      The MANPADS guidance system is essentially primitive. For the simple reason that the maximum that is needed is to highlight the contrasting target against a fairly uniform background.
      Whereas ATGM works much harder. Where priority is manual guidance, and the use of GOS is possible only in a landfill.

      Did I insist on GOS? belay To highlight the contrasting target ... and how did the arrows, anti-aircraft gunners "Strela-2", "Arrow-2М" highlight the target? And the operators of "Baby"? Eyes! And here and there ... Read the characteristics of the TOURS "Reflex", "Arkan" ... what is indicated there as goals? Armored vehicles and helicopters (under certain conditions ...) And "Cornet-D"? But in “Cornet-D” there are -2 different missiles .. And if you take a “Cornet” with a warhead of the TOW-2B type (with 2-EFP charges located transversely to the longitudinal axis of the rocket) and make the software a little trickier? Then such a "Cornet" will hit the target when flying, both past the tank and past the helicopter. And there is no GOS, but there is a "laser path"!
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 April 14 2018 20: 19
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        The Cornet rocket rotates during flight.
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I April 14 2018 23: 48
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          Quote: Vadim237
          The Cornet rocket rotates during flight.

          In this case, it will come in handy ...
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 April 15 2018 12: 03
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            Probably it will be cheaper to make a multifunctional RPG, with a firing range of 1300 meters and a computer sight.
  12. shuravi
    shuravi April 15 2018 10: 14
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    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    Quote: shuravi
    Will not work. Too big differences.
    The MANPADS guidance system is essentially primitive. For the simple reason that the maximum that is needed is to highlight the contrasting target against a fairly uniform background.
    Whereas ATGM works much harder. Where priority is manual guidance, and the use of GOS is possible only in a landfill.

    Did I insist on GOS? belay To highlight the contrasting target ... and how did the arrows, anti-aircraft gunners "Strela-2", "Arrow-2М" highlight the target? And the operators of "Baby"? Eyes! And here and there ... Read the characteristics of the TOURS "Reflex", "Arkan" ... what is indicated there as goals? Armored vehicles and helicopters (under certain conditions ...) And "Cornet-D"? But in “Cornet-D” there are -2 different missiles .. And if you take a “Cornet” with a warhead of the TOW-2B type (with 2-EFP charges located transversely to the longitudinal axis of the rocket) and make the software a little trickier? Then such a "Cornet" will hit the target when flying, both past the tank and past the helicopter. And there is no GOS, but there is a "laser path"!


    You did not understand. MANPADS guidance system is cheaper, easier. Therefore, they will not go anywhere.
    At the same time, it is very difficult to direct the ATGM to a highly maneuverable target. What is there, even to catch her in sight is a problem.
    In general, the requirements for these complexes are too contradictory to make two in one.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I April 15 2018 16: 28
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      I really didn’t understand ... What is the difference between laser beam guidance systems (MLS) of MANPADS and ATGMs? SAM RBS-70 and "Cornet-EM"? What nodes (devices) included in the structural scheme of the LLSN SAM system are missing in the structural scheme of anti-tank systems, and vice versa? What will be the difference between a zur with a duck control circuit and a powder drive from a gun with a duck circuit and a powder drive? What is the difference between a non-contact laser fuse (installed on some types of guns) and a non-contact laser fuse of some zures? The main differences between ATGM and SAM not in the type of guidance (!), but in: 1. power (weight) of the warhead; 2. type of warhead; 3. engine performance; 4. quick response of the drives (steering reaction) .. 5.tx on speed and range .. ..that is, general TTX! But I define TTX requirements for functionality. which are formed by the customer’s tasks and his price requests. I never mentioned highly maneuverable targets on this page. Therefore, I did not "advertise" a hybrid of a supersonic SAM with a fragmentation-beam warhead filled with tungsten balls and ATGMs with a tandem cumulative warhead. But the creation of a “single” (anti-tank / anti-helicopter) missile with laser beam SN, with transonic (“slightly” supersonic) speed, 5-6 km range, 1,5 km reach in height, with multi-purpose (Ku ulyativno-fragmentation) warhead, with maneuverability that is acceptable to destroy ground moving targets and low-speed air ....- possible and appropriate, economically viable.
  13. shuravi
    shuravi April 17 2018 16: 50
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    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    I really didn’t understand ... What is the difference between laser beam guidance systems (MLS) of MANPADS and ATGMs? SAM RBS-70 and "Cornet-EM"


    Do not go into the wilds. Read how the simplest IR GOS works.