Stuff soldiers with electronic chips: DARPA

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The US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) is known for conducting high-level research on advanced military technology. However, the Office is increasingly focusing its attention on the most important, but sometimes underestimated area - medical support of personnel.

The work of DARPA in the field of military medicine for the most part is carried out with the participation of the newest component in its overall structure - the Office of Biological Technologies Biological Technologies Office (WTO). As its director Brad Ringizen noted, "our office is working on a wide range of tasks that can be grouped into three major categories." First, it is neurobiology, for example, the use of brain signals for the operation of limb prostheses. The second direction is genetic engineering or synthetic biology. The third area of ​​research focuses on technologies that can outrun infectious diseases, and this is a priority research area of ​​DARPA.



According to Colonel Mat Hepburn, head of several programs at the WTO, there are a number of reasons that bring the fight against infectious diseases to the fore. For example, the US military or its allies may be deployed to help a region or country affected by a specific pandemic, such as Ebola. "We are a globally deployed military force and we are going to send our people to the areas that we need to protect against diseases."


Microphysiological system development Institute for Biological Engineering Wiss

Developing technologies and treatments that prevent infectious outbreaks can also increase national security. For example, treatments developed for military personnel can be used to prevent or treat major pandemics among the civilian population. However, all this is also true at lower levels, up to a single individual.

“A simple but extremely illustrative example is the flu on the ship,” explained Hepburn. “Infected personnel are less efficient and this may affect the performance of the entire task.” As another example, Hepburn cited the danger of a member of a group being infected with malaria or dengue fever, “which is quite commonplace in the places where we work. This of course can actually destroy the entire mission if you don’t think about medical evacuation and precautions for this person. ”

As Hepburn noted, there are two broad categories when it comes to dealing with infectious diseases. First, it is a diagnosis: find out if a person is sick or not. Secondly, what to do if someone is sick, that is, the development of a course of treatment or countermeasures, such as a vaccine.

However, the main focus of DARPA is still on predicting whether a healthy-looking person will become sick. In addition, the Office wants to know not only the likelihood that the patient may get sick, but he is also contagious or not. “Will he spread the contagion?” Can we suppress the outbreak in a particular community? ”

Hepburn also spoke about the Prometheus program. According to DARPA, its goal is to search for “a set of biological signals in a newly infected person who can indicate within 24 hours whether this person will become infectious,” which will allow starting treatment at an early stage and taking steps to prevent the transmission of this disease to other people.

Prometheus currently focuses on acute respiratory diseases, which have been chosen to confirm the concept, although this technology may be applicable to other infectious diseases.

“Suppose we have 10 people who have been infected, we could test them and say that these three people will be the most infectious and become carriers of the disease. We will then treat these people in order to prevent the spread of the infection, ”explained Hepburn.

The Prometheus project aims to create “biomarkers” that show a person’s susceptibility to the disease and its potential level of infectiousness. “These markers are hard to create,” noted Hepburn. - Another difficulty is the removal of indications from these markers in the field and in the points of medical care. It may be necessary to develop a battery-powered device that could do the job. "

“I believe that their military use is quite obvious,” Hepburn continued. - Imagine a barrack or a ship or a submarine. The ability to determine who is going to get sick and stop the outbreak of the disease in these cramped conditions would be extremely useful for our military. ”

In the area of ​​preventive measures, DARPA does a lot of work to prevent diseases. The main focus is on the development of so-called “almost immediate” solutions to neutralize the infectious outbreak, which will work much faster than the traditional vaccine.

“If I give you a vaccine, it may take two or three doses in six months before you reach the required level of immunity,” said Hepburn.

In this regard, the DARPA has begun work on a new program called RH (Pandemic Prevention Platform - a pandemic prevention platform), whose goal is to develop a “near-immediate” solution that can complement vaccines. The vaccine works by causing the body to produce antibodies, and if they circulate in the blood in sufficient quantities, then the person is protected from a specific infectious disease. DARPA intends to dramatically accelerate this process through the implementation of the P3 program.

“What if we could just give antibodies that would fight the infection or protect you?” In fact, if a person could just inject the right antibodies, then he would immediately receive protection, said Hepburn. “The problem is that it takes months and years to get enough of these antibodies in a factory.” This is a complex and expensive process. ”

Instead of the traditional process, the production of antibodies and their introduction into a human vein, DARPA is working on the creation of an injectable injection, which contains DNA and RNA for antibodies, so that the body itself creates the necessary antibodies. With the introduction of the genetic code into the body "for 72 hours, you will already have enough antibodies for your protection." Hepburn believes that this can be achieved within four years, by the end of the program Р3.

Ringizen heads another program to develop preventive measures, “Microphysiological systems” or “Organs on a chip”, within which artificial models of various systems of the human body on inkjet chips or chips will be created. They can be used in different ways, for example, vaccine testing or the introduction of a biological pathogen. The goal is ambitious - imitation of the processes of the human body in the laboratory.

Stuff soldiers with electronic chips: DARPA

MIT Body-on-Chip Concept Illustration

“The significance of this is enormous,” Ringingen added. “You can explore literally thousands of drug candidates for their efficacy and toxicity without the current laborious and expensive processes that you have to go through.”

The current development model includes several very expensive processes, including animal testing and clinical research. Animal studies are very expensive and do not always accurately reflect the effect of the drug or vaccine on the human body. With regard to clinical studies, they are even more expensive, and the vast majority of tests fail.

“Even more difficult is the work for the Ministry of Defense, since many of the medical protective measures it needs are designed to combat biological and chemical agents,” he added. “You cannot take a group of people and test them with anthrax or Ebola.”

The Organs on a Chip technology is revolutionizing the development of drugs for the military community and civil society. The project, led by teams from Harvard University and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, is now coming to an end.


Chip for lightweight development of the Wiss Institute

Ringizen also noted the Elect-Rx program (Electrical Prescriptions - Electrical Recipes), aimed at developing technologies that could artificially stimulate the peripheral nervous system, using its ability to quickly and effectively self-heal.

"This will improve the immune system, will give the body greater resistance to infections or inflammatory diseases," Ringizen explained.

Hepburn believes that in the future, military medicine will be able to "much better predict the disease at the earliest stages, and then it remains only to take appropriate measures in a specialized institution."

“Everything is as with preventive maintenance of your car. A sensor in it signals, for example, that the engine may break or that you need to fill in the oil. We want to do the same with the human body. ”

In the body, these sensors can be combined with other technologies, which will automatically begin the necessary action, for example, monitoring glucose levels in a patient with diabetes. "We have not yet achieved this, but in 10 years, it will become a common reality."

Military medicine - especially with an emphasis on treatment methods and preventive measures - can bring real benefits in a number of other areas. It is clear that the priority is to protect personnel from infections, but preventing such outbreaks on a larger scale, such as fighting pandemics, also has a direct impact on the level of safety. As a result, military medicine must meet the needs of not only an individual soldier, not only the Armed Forces, but also society as a whole.

Materials used:
www.darpa.mil
wyss.harvard.edu
web.mit.edu
www.genengnews.com
www.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
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  1. +3
    20 March 2018 06: 42
    With a high degree of probability, these works are carried out in preparation for the conduct of hostilities using biological weapons. Concern for society is simply far-fetched.
    1. +3
      20 March 2018 07: 22
      Most likely, but not necessary. Many sores with early diagnosis can be easily treated. Military value is undeniable, but the civilian is in question. The first ones who try to slow down the use of, or even discredit, doctors. Their value and dependence on them will drop sharply.
      1. +2
        20 March 2018 07: 35
        For managing society, this technology is "useful" in only one way. In the civilian sector, health-tracking chips with a flick of the wrist turn into chips that monitor dissent.
  2. +1
    20 March 2018 06: 55
    Well, an interesting idea. The idea of ​​a compact automatic diagnostician is sucked up a long time ago, but it just seems like chips and markers can’t do here. Well, traditionally 2/3 of the allocated money will disappear nowhere.
  3. 0
    20 March 2018 07: 03
    So, soon, to fight it will be possible to get up from the couch. Hacked the encoding of the brains of a foreign army and sent it to storm Washington. laughing
    1. +1
      20 March 2018 07: 32
      Electronic warfare gives chips an introduction about BOV poisoning -> personal first aid kits automatically inject shock doses of adrenaline, antidotes and other nasty things to all fighters who are actually healthy -> the cyborg unit can be disposed of
    2. +2
      20 March 2018 22: 51
      By the way, you did not go far from tactical methods of seizing the initiative to supply troops. namely, people of what they urgently need so that they can choose priorities. This is called psi information flow control technologies for the formation of the enemy’s convenient and worldview concepts and functions of direct or indirect subordination.
  4. +1
    20 March 2018 07: 26
    In general, state support is currently lacking in this area. In clinical studies, there has been great success in tissue engineering, but in practice it is very rare, almost always autotransplantation.
    1. +4
      20 March 2018 10: 59
      It's too early to talk about success. Above all, it is necessary to develop electronic technologies. magnetic influence on the management of potential and the environment and various structural organs and the entire human body. But such levels cannot be achieved on modern quality indicators and devices and technologies for producing such energy. In general, you need to understand what energy is. A new quality of energy is needed for the level of potential of biological systems. And such decisions come from mathematicians and physicists, but not from medicine itself.
      1. +1
        20 March 2018 20: 25
        gridasov hi Well, you pulled it cool
        and the environment and various structural organs and the entire human body.
        What is it? My liver should be alcoholic, and the kidneys from beer should not dry out? Did I understand correctly?
      2. +1
        20 March 2018 21: 05
        Quote: gridasov
        It's too early to talk about success. Above all, it is necessary to develop electronic technologies. magnetic influence on the management of potential and the environment and various structural organs and the entire human body. But such levels cannot be achieved on modern quality indicators and devices and technologies for producing such energy. In general, you need to understand what energy is. A new quality of energy is needed for the level of potential of biological systems. And such decisions come from mathematicians and physicists, but not from medicine itself.

        Do you think that in the near future energy will be created that will be able to interact with a living organism and the objects surrounding this organism? ....
        Quantum field: hi
        1. +3
          20 March 2018 22: 12
          Have you already come up with a name !? In fact, mathematically, it looks pretty prosaic. This is just a certain level of fractal space, in which all the laws of other levels are preserved.
          I really believe that soon the energy of completely new qualitative parameters will be mastered. Including the level of thoughts and reasoning.
          1. +1
            20 March 2018 22: 38
            I really believe that soon the energy of completely new qualitative parameters will be mastered. Including the level of thoughts and reasoning.

            This is when the power of thought starship can be through space? And will we live to such perfection?
            1. +5
              20 March 2018 23: 12
              No ! There is no faith in this. We are potentially incapable of such a concentration of power energy. But here is to analyze situations at the level of algorithmically constructed prospects and the ability to comprehend several situations at once - I think this is possible in the near future
            2. +2
              20 March 2018 23: 36
              Quote: Svarog51
              I really believe that soon the energy of completely new qualitative parameters will be mastered. Including the level of thoughts and reasoning.

              This is when the power of thought starship can be through space? And will we live to such perfection?

              Serge hi
              Your body will be synthesized as necessary and the necessary information is added to the brain to fully perceive the new time, if necessary. Also, the year of synthesizing the product (body) will not matter, since perhaps your body may be the carrier of certain information that can help in the continuation of the development of mankind .... So there, in the future they won’t ask us, it’s necessary, they will do it without prior consent ... Yes
              1. +1
                21 March 2018 01: 08
                body may be a carrier of certain information
                Volodya hi And can I fill my body with “information” today, I’ll rush to the refrigerator and back. And then all of a sudden there in the future with a “dressing” tight, so I with mine. wink drinks
                1. +1
                  21 March 2018 01: 20
                  Quote: Svarog51
                  body may be a carrier of certain information
                  Volodya hi And can I fill my body with “information” today, I’ll rush to the refrigerator and back. And then all of a sudden there in the future with a “dressing” tight, so I with mine. wink drinks
                  I think that for the full functioning of the body, everything that the body has consumed is synthesized, for any information will be important for the prosperity of humanity. And there may not be a refueling there, but the stains in the body of this substance will help synthesize and refueling ..... Yes drinks
                  ps left to synthesize a dream ....
                  1. +2
                    21 March 2018 01: 25
                    What are you driving? I don’t understand in any way. I'm dumb, I guess.
                    1. +2
                      21 March 2018 02: 15
                      It is necessary to gnaw dry alcohol, but in the future it will be synthesized and vodka will be obtained. lol
                      Volodya hi This is where we have fun from inaction as we can. laughing
                      1. +2
                        21 March 2018 02: 18
                        Oh, got it! Oil based oil. laughing
                  2. +1
                    21 March 2018 01: 28
                    ps left to synthesize a dream ....

                    Damn, it’s lucky, but I have to wait for the future until it is synthesized. recourse
          2. +1
            20 March 2018 22: 52
            Quote: gridasov
            Have you already come up with a name !?
            no why the first thing that came to mind ... smile
            Quote: gridasov
            In fact, mathematically, it looks pretty prosaic. This is just a certain level of fractal space, in which all the laws of other levels are preserved.
            I mean that energy itself is a program, a person here acts as a carrier, a chip, that they put it to him and will process it. For example, music is energy and information, it affects the body, moreover, the main organ, the brain. The question of the conductors has already been solved, it remains to create that melody that will affect the necessary parts of the body.
            Quote: gridasov
            I really believe that soon the energy of completely new qualitative parameters will be mastered. Including the level of thoughts and reasoning.
            Here I think the question has become a little higher, the ability to control what is happening, that is, when a person can change the movement of society in the right direction, without visible tools, at the subconscious level. Then chips and programs are obstacles to this all for complete control over a person, so that he does not reach an emotional level. An emotional outburst is a burst of energy, a malfunction of the brain, chips will help to avoid this, they will take control of brain activity and suppress unnecessary body activity. The cure itself does not fit here, the process is slow, but it’s quite possible to turn off the pain, stop the bleeding, and improve other qualities. It turns out that the soldier will be vulnerable from direct hits as an object, but the chip will help to avoid quick destruction (death), thereby medical help will be able to provide the necessary help. A soldier of the future is an object that will perform the task for a long time, without a guarantee to stay alive.
            1. +2
              20 March 2018 23: 24
              I would note that pain and fear is a very positive element or the ability of a person to provide for his vitality. Look, the artificial coma method is designed so that a person with his fears and unnecessary thoughts does not interfere with the optimization of the recovery process. Any intervention, I would say unnatural interference, makes a person weaker, but the education of strong-willed qualities and the creation of the potential of mental methods of controlling emotions and feelings on the contrary, only makes a person stronger. This means that humanity will be divided into those who will be chipovat and vulnerable to all kinds of influences to which it should be attached evolutionarily, and not forcibly. And those people who by their own efforts will be adapted to new living conditions.
              1. +1
                21 March 2018 00: 08
                Quote: gridasov
                I would note that pain and fear is a very positive element or the ability of a person to provide for his vitality. Look, the artificial coma method is designed so that a person with his fears and unnecessary thoughts does not interfere with the optimization of the recovery process. Any intervention, I would say unnatural interference, makes a person weaker, but the education of strong-willed qualities and the creation of the potential of mental methods of controlling emotions and feelings on the contrary, only makes a person stronger. This means that humanity will be divided into those who will be chipovat and vulnerable to all kinds of influences to which it should be attached evolutionarily, and not forcibly. And those people who by their own efforts will be adapted to new living conditions.
                By the way, this is a natural process of evolution, strong and weak, but how will the program, chip work here, if a person is born with higher capabilities. After all, this person will essentially surpass all achievements or be able to get around them and he as an individual will begin to build his program. That is, the probability of failure of the entire system will remain, even if it is 100% perfect, it turns out that the system will not always be perfect. But people will perceive this as ideal ...
    2. +3
      20 March 2018 22: 56
      Here you need to understand that certain transformations of the brain of an individual individual may not work in various group compositions. Therefore, everything is not so simple. At a minimum, it is again necessary to be able to work with large volumes of information in order to form the necessary process. Since any little thing in the process of its development can very quickly become dominant in influence
      1. +1
        20 March 2018 23: 22
        Quote: gridasov
        Here you need to understand that certain transformations of the brain of an individual individual may not work in various group compositions. Therefore, everything is not so simple. At a minimum, it is again necessary to be able to work with large volumes of information in order to form the necessary process. Since any little thing in the process of its development can very quickly become dominant in influence
        I agree, that is, we do not have material that could save a large amount of information and process it, while having a minimum head start with the ability to fit into the body, which will not interfere with the body. But if you connect it externally, there is a mini PC, the question remains of the relationship of the body and information, and here the question arises of how to create energy that will be perceived by the body as information. That is, as a general program that will bypass the incompatible in the body, for example, it will turn off the heart, but the body will function.
  5. +2
    20 March 2018 09: 29
    The article is interesting, thanks. Surely there are a number of programs that are either not widely discussed, or which are still classified. As there was information about the promising developments of a certain medical module, which is mounted on a fighter and in case of injury, assistance can be provided remotely. In general, microelectronics is gradually becoming part of our body.
  6. +4
    20 March 2018 09: 31
    Medical chips will soon be sewn for everyone - not just soldiers. It's unavoidable.
    Without them, clinics will not serve customers, insurance companies
    will not insure, employers will not hire.
    Everybody will become cyborgs. As in any innovation, there are pros and cons.
    1. +1
      20 March 2018 21: 31
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Medical chips will soon be sewn for everyone - not just soldiers. It's unavoidable.
      Without them, clinics will not serve customers, insurance companies
      will not insure, employers will not hire.
      Everybody will become cyborgs. As in any innovation, there are pros and cons.

      There is no reliable electronics that can withstand a long period of work and did not fail, but by the years 2050-2060 I think it will already be like a mobile phone for everyone. Reformatting a person into an object of information carrier about himself sounds strange, but things are moving towards this. I connected the chip to the life support system and you are provided with the necessary, there is no chip, you are a rebel, a parasite of the system .... fellow
      1. 0
        21 March 2018 10: 55
        They also forgot that religious figures would prevent this in every way.
        1. 0
          21 March 2018 11: 24
          Quote: Voyager
          They also forgot that religious figures would prevent this in every way.
          They can’t, look, they themselves use modern means, and their beliefs do not help them themselves. A person develops faster than religion, they know this, but hinder because they do not want to stay away from progress. For religious individuals, obstruction is such a form of dispute, confrontation, they thereby try to be in the thick of things. hi
          ps Thin topic, well, banned in FIG ...... laughing
  7. +3
    20 March 2018 10: 54
    In all three areas of research, a fundamental leap to knowledge is needed, which would allow us to move to new levels of email. magnetic energy. In order to use an electronic magnetic pulse as a signal for transmission from an information system or the brain of a robot to a mechanism, it is necessary to understand how to convert this signal to a number. Namely the number. Moreover, critical new elementary devices are needed, i.e., induction devices that are able to transform the potential difference into an element of motion like a human muscle. And we can say that everything is in sight, but there is no understanding of simple things and principles of work. Or if the conversation is about infectious or other sources of infectious disease, then you need to understand that any living flora develops in an environment that potentially supports the development of the virus. This means that email. the magnetic potential of the virus body itself corresponds to the potential of the external environment. Break this connection or create an imbalance of potential and this will avoid many diseases. You just need to understand elementary things, that the same Kirlian effect is actually a potential that determines a person’s vitality and exist and fight diseases. Therefore, elementary devices providing such energy and potential are needed. And such devices can be created now. Of course, few people believe in what has been said. But you live and there always comes a moment of breakthrough, when humanity grabs a straw.
    1. +1
      20 March 2018 11: 10
      "as a signal for transmission from an information system or the brain of a robot to a mechanism
      you need to understand how to convert this signal to a number. It is the number "////

      Already done. About 10 years ago. Perfectly connect nerve endings with wires
      and transform brain signals into numbers. Namely the number. And armless people with disabilities take a sandwich completely with an iron hand at the signal of their own brain and fall into their mouths.
      1. +1
        20 March 2018 11: 19
        In principle, I agree with you. However, there are many unsolved issues and, most importantly, the lack of systemic prospects for the development of these technologies. Therefore, DARPA and voiced interest in technologies for further development.
        We can speak about the current level of achievements only as an initial stage. This is also evidenced by the fact that a person in his development uses only the level of binary logic, in which there is no number in the foundation of the conversion of momentum to number. Therefore, many methods are comparable to the fact that the task is performed at the cost of the loss of other functions.
      2. +1
        20 March 2018 20: 27
        Alexei, take care of your mind, otherwise it will "flow" drinks
        1. +3
          20 March 2018 22: 16
          Reason just should not be cherished. It must be made "elastic" and with a more expanded perception potential. Try to imagine mentally a situation of the most undesirable level. And also create the thought of the most positive perception. Then you will immediately feel that these thoughts can be developed and controlled by the process of their formation.
          1. 0
            20 March 2018 22: 42
            What for? I can form a thought, and even send it to the vastness of the universe. Here are just a long wait for an answer, I will not live. Now, if you find a way to exchange thoughts with an alien mind now, then yes. Let's talk. In the meantime, alas ...
  8. +2
    20 March 2018 11: 07
    The stupidest thing is to engage in genetic engineering with the goal of transforming it. Those who created this world laid algorithmic transformations in the very process of adaptation of the basic structures of a living organism. However, this should not violate the foundation of the system. Any level of the so-called living or biological structure already has the potential to adapt to change. Therefore, you need not to interfere, at least.
    1. +2
      20 March 2018 11: 54
      "Those who created this world" ////

      Who are they ??? belay Gods? Aliens? stop
      Genetic engineering is evolution. Conditions are changing - changing
      genes. Just not right away, but slowly, with a delay of several generations.
      And engineers do the same thing quickly. You’ll get sick (God forbid!), You want medicine right away,
      not in a hundred years. They will take tissue samples from you, calculate the genome on a computer.
      And they will customize the medicine strictly suitable for you. Giving up?
      And, for example, your child was born. They say to you: "he has a predisposition
      to a dangerous genetic disease. But we can fix it with the genome and danger
      disappear. "Refuse?
      That's it. All against genetic engineering until the "roasted rooster pecked themselves."
      1. +2
        20 March 2018 12: 04
        I believe that those who do not believe in the Essence of the Creator, then this is for the time being. Those who believe in Idol are slaves. But those who believe in the actions of the Creator, this is the true scientist who knows the laws of the acts of a more developed mind. Therefore, you answered for yourself that saying that you have said and mean aliens or others, these are your personal fantasies. No wonder it is said that "Do not mention my name in vain." And these are not simple words, this is the meaning.
        1. +5
          20 March 2018 12: 47
          Are you a believer? I did not immediately understand, I'm sorry: you are always talking about some
          write energy and algorithms. That’s what they would say: divine energies
          and divine algorithms! drinks
          1. +3
            20 March 2018 17: 10
            City some garbage. They came up with it themselves, then you develop heresy. Once again, for those who do not know how to read thoughtfully. It is not necessary to explain that the world is built as a system of rational and systemic interactions. Therefore, no faith in cults and religions should
            to be a Faith in the Intelligence of the constructed World. If this is understood, then it is necessary to research and improve yourself in knowledge and approaching a deeper Intelligence. And do not build from yourself omniscient and ingenious.
            1. +2
              20 March 2018 20: 28
              Quote: gridasov
              .... improve in cognition and approach to a deeper Mind.

              belay ... And you do not find that the "drawing" of the synaptic connections of the brain:

              ... resemble a detailed "drawing" of a model of the universe fellow :
              1. awl
                +1
                20 March 2018 20: 37
                Everything in the world is interconnected smile why not Yes
              2. +1
                20 March 2018 22: 20
                I agree with you. Only this is a drawing of a certain level of our perception. You should never forget that we see and perceive a lot, but still not all
          2. +1
            20 March 2018 20: 30
            Alexey hi I answered above and I repeat again - take care of the mind. Do not argue with genius. Spring is in the yard. lol
            1. +1
              20 March 2018 22: 28
              We are not geniuses and outwardly are no different from others. We simply think in more expanded terms, corresponding to changes in the surrounding information world. Which by the way people built. Our children will always see and perceive the world more realistically than their parents. But if a person raising children himself does not lose the potential of young people to perceive and develop in the spirit of the present, then experience plus the virtues and excitement that are present in young people can do wonders.
              In addition, the greatest wisdom is that at any age you need to perceive learning as if life is just beginning. Moreover, everything is so that every moment is the beginning of life from scratch. But only with different "baggage behind"
              1. +1
                20 March 2018 22: 38
                Now, you can come down to us sinners ... Your philosophical notes are already normal. It remains fizteh. Reflections to finalize.
                1. +3
                  20 March 2018 23: 04
                  You all dream of revolutionary breakthrough ideas, theories, and developments. You even understand the inevitability of such. What is missing? Willingness to accept extraordinary concepts and explanations. Because the obvious is not perceived without the fact that those whom you call geniuses will not explain and justify simple, but completely unperceptible processes. So it was, it is, and it always will be. Only a few are capable of first understanding and seeing on an individual level what they will pass on the relay. To see the world at the level of interaction of magnetic force flows is what is now necessary for the development of civilization
                2. +1
                  20 March 2018 23: 54
                  Quote: Shahno
                  Now, you can come down to us sinners ... Your philosophical notes are already normal. It remains fizteh. Reflections to finalize.

                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  He is a religious person. I did not know that.

                  State your calculations, since philosophy is not understood, it would also be interesting to see .... hi Waiting for your multiplication tables .... laughing
              2. 0
                20 March 2018 23: 07
                We just think in more advanced terms.

                And who are we, if not a secret? Yes, and the kids more and more climb into the virtual world, you can’t drive them into the real one. Maybe it's better to focus on real tasks than to engage in fantasy? Predicting is certainly a good thing, but real discoveries and inventions do more good.
            2. +2
              20 March 2018 22: 47
              He is a religious person. I did not know that.
              1. +1
                20 March 2018 23: 26
                I repeat the third time. Do not confuse religiosity with the conviction that the world is built logically, optimally and reasonably.
                1. +1
                  20 March 2018 23: 28
                  In general, it was nice to talk with smart people. All the best!
                  1. +1
                    21 March 2018 00: 35
                    Quote: gridasov
                    In general, it was nice to talk with smart people. All the best!
                    You don’t stop the main thing, the main thing here is awareness, as in calculations, one calculates, uses the other, creates the third.
                    It's nice to talk not about gray everyday life, but to look into the future .... hi
              2. 0
                20 March 2018 23: 49
                Alexey hi
                He is a religious person.

                More than that, you can’t even imagine how much. This is beyond your control. wink
              3. +2
                21 March 2018 00: 36
                He is a religious person. I did not know that


                “Observing in space that harmony that I, with my limited human mind, can discern, there are still people who say that there is no God. But what really makes me angry is that they still quote me in support of their views ”(Einstein).

                Gridasov is sometimes difficult to understand, but such people are needed in teams - without such people, we would still improve and refine the steam engines to grace. They are valuable not in ideas, no. And the fact that someone, starting to argue with the Gridasovs, will suddenly notice a grain, by which he always passed. Do not touch him.
                1. +1
                  21 March 2018 12: 22
                  You noticed it very correctly. I do not need to be a genius in human society. I already know what I know. But I know that knowledge is transmitted in such a way that a person should think that he himself came to them.
                2. 0
                  21 March 2018 12: 27
                  And I don’t touch. Religion was (and remains) an important "motor"
                  evolution. The development of abstract thinking of people.
                  Anyway, no matter how science develops, people want to be happy -
                  and right today. Happiness brings them much more effectively religion than science.
                  The problem is when priests / xenza / mullahs / rabbis begin to crush science. sad
  9. 0
    21 March 2018 23: 52
    the most dumb thing that would not have done biorobots based on nanotechnology then for sure
  10. 0
    22 March 2018 00: 23
    Oh, the familiar "field of activity": DNA vaccines, microfluidics, etc. Everything works, but ... in order to bring to mind you need another 5-10 years, approximately.
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    22 March 2018 00: 24
    I read comments - I’m horrified at the level of "ownership of the topic" among those commenting ... :(
  12. 0
    28 March 2018 18: 32
    The future is already with us)