SPBE, SPBE-D and SPBE-K self-aiming combat elements

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A typical modern tank has a differentiated reservation with a powerful frontal barrier and less durable other sections of the hull and tower. The weakest are traditionally the roofs of the hull and the tower, under normal conditions almost not exposed to hazards. Similar features of armored vehicles can be used by various means of destruction. So, with the characteristic features of differentiated protection is connected the principle of operation of the domestic self-aiming combat element of SPBE.

As of the beginning of the eighties of the last century, at the disposal of the Soviet military aviation there were several types of ammunition suitable for destroying enemy armored vehicles. Such problems could be solved with the help of guided and unguided missiles or bombs, as well as with the use of aircraft guns. Moreover, all such tools could show limited effectiveness in a real environment. To increase the anti-tank potential of aviation, the development of a new project of a special autonomous weapons system was launched.



SPBE, SPBE-D and SPBE-K self-aiming combat elements
The combat element of the SPBE, which did not get the target. Photo Imp-navigator.livejournal.com


Not later than the mid-eighties, the Bazalt Research and Production Association (Krasnoarmeisk, Moscow Region) began the development of an anti-tank system using completely new principles of operation. It was proposed to create a relatively light and compact ammunition that can independently search for and hit enemy combat vehicles. Such a product could be used both with aerial bomb cassettes, and as part of other shock weapons.

According to reports, initially the new project was designated as PTAB-SP - “Anti-tank aerial bomb self-targeting”. The cipher "Motive-3" was also used. Subsequently, the project changed its name to a modern one, under which it later became widely known. Now the product is called SPBE - "Self-targeting combat element." Later modifications retained such a designation, but it was supplemented with the letters “D” and “K”.

Within the framework of the SPBE project, two types of devices with different purposes were created. The composition of the complex "Motive-3" includes the actual combat elements and command element. The task of the latter is to track some parameters and form radio commands for combat elements. The need to use a separate command element was associated with the large size of the required hardware. Subsequently, the necessary sensors were reduced, so that the upgraded elements of the SPBE-D became completely autonomous and no longer need third-party commands.


SPBE with released parachute. Photo Imp-navigator.livejournal.com


The command and combat elements of the SPBE system of the basic modification, despite serious differences, are maximally unified. They have the same body, consisting of two elements. Part of the device is placed inside the cylindrical body, on board of which a curved casing with other devices is fixed. On the upper lid of the element is fixed several folding plates-stabilizers. According to reports, the elements of the two types are distinguished by their internal equipment, which is associated with their roles during combat work.

For combat and command elements, the upper part of the cylindrical body contains a compartment for two parachutes. At different stages of work, SPBE uses an auxiliary and main parachute, which differ in size. Parachutes are controlled by commands from electrical systems using squibs and rod mechanisms.

About two thirds of the body of the combat element is a shaped charge, designed to destroy an armored target. The item carries an 4,5 kg explosive. The lower cut of this charge is made in the form of a cumulative funnel and has a copper lining, which improves combat performance. Lining also performs the functions of the lower case cover, protecting the explosive from external influences. The existing shaped charge during blasting forms a jet consisting of hot gases and molten metal. This jet develops a high speed and is capable of penetrating up to 70 mm of homogeneous armor at a meeting angle of 30 ° at standard operating distances.

The command element of the “Motive-3” system has no warhead. Instead, in a cylindrical housing fits so-called. radiometric sensor. Using a compact radio altimeter element is able to determine the distance to the ground. This information is used by automation in the management of combat elements. The data from the altimeter goes to the instruments placed in the side container. At a certain point in time, having received the required data, the command element equipment broadcasts necessary commands over the radio to the combat elements.


Split layout of the RBC-500 SPBE cassette. Photo Russianarms.ru


The equipment of the onboard container of the combat element is more complex. Inside the curved casing is placed the receiver of infrared radiation, used as a means to search for targets. The light-sensitive elements of such an opto-electronic device are placed in the hole in the bottom of the casing. According to known data, the receiver is capable of operating in the 3-5 μm and 8-14 μm wavelength ranges, which allows it to find the thermal radiation characteristic of combat vehicles. The field of view of the optics is a cone 45 width of angular minutes. Small field sizes are compensated by the original way of conducting observation.

For certain reasons related to the method of application, the combat and command element received the same size and did not differ in mass. Each of the elements of the SPBE complex in the transport position has a height of 270 mm. The diameter of the cylindrical body of the warhead or radio altimeter - 186 mm. The cross-sectional size, taking into account the instrument compartment casing, is 290 mm. The mass of the combatant element - 16 kg.

The SPBE Motive-3 self-targeting combat elements can be used with different carrier platforms. One of the main means of their transportation and delivery to the target are one-time bomb cassettes of various types. Items can be fitted in cassettes RBC-250 or RBC-500. In the case of the latter, 2,5 combat elements and 450 command elements fit into the hull of length 14 m and diameter 1 mm. A bomb cassette with such a load weighs 478 kg and can be used by various planes capable of carrying and using unguided bombs.

Not so long ago, another version of the bomb cassette appeared. While maintaining the main features of the existing product, the PBK-500U cassette differs from it in the presence of its own controls. Thanks to this, before dropping 15 submunitions, the bomb can fly up to 50 km.


Exhibition layout SPBE-D. Photo Russianarms.ru


Over time, the 9М55К1 rocket projectile, designed for the Smerch multiple launch rocket system, became another platform for combat elements. The cassette warhead of such a projectile has five cells for combat elements. According to some data, it uses modernized products SPBE-D, which do not require a separate command element. Among other things, this allows a noticeable increase in the number of combat elements and increase the probability of hitting targets.

Unusual anti-tank ammunition of the SPBE family have a corresponding operating principle of great interest. After a reset or launch, a one-time bomb cassette or missile delivers several combat elements to the target area. Next is the disclosure of the body with the release of elements. The discharge is carried out at heights of at least several hundred meters. Immediately after being ejected from the cassette, the oncoming flow of air pulls auxiliary parachutes designed to reduce the speed of the fall of products. Having the same size and weight, hulls and parachutes, command and combat elements are reduced at the same speed.

When the height of the 170 m is reached, the command element, equipped with a radio altimeter, gives the command to shoot auxiliary parachutes and deploy the main parachutes. After that, the command element is turned off from work, and all further tasks are solved only by combat. The main parachute lines are attached to the body of the warhead, which is why the asymmetrical warhead slopes 30 ° towards the instrument compartment cover when descending. He maintains such a position up to the triggering of a warhead or falling to the ground.

The descent of the combat element occurs at a steady speed 15 m / s. Due to the available stabilizers, the element rotates around a vertical axis at a speed of about 6-8 revolutions per second. The correct combination of descent speed, rotational speed, width of field of view and tilt of the combat element leads to the fact that during descent the optoelectronic system gradually “inspects” a circle with a radius of about 90-100 m. The field of view of the infrared system moves along a narrowing helix, and at each moment of time there is a plot of terrain with a diameter (depending on the height of the combat element) no more than 1,5-2 m


Product SPBE-D in the configuration of descent and search for a target. Photo Zonwar.ru


Upon detection of thermal radiation characteristic of armored combat vehicles, the opto-electronic device gives the command to undermine the warhead. The explosion of a molded charge leads to the formation of a cumulative jet consisting of gases and molten copper. The jet energy is sufficient to penetrate 70 mm of homogeneous armor.

If during descent the combat element could not find the target, then it simply falls to the ground. According to some reports, after that the infrared system continues to monitor the terrain and searches for targets with a characteristic thermal signature. In this mode, the self-targeting combat element turns out to be a kind of land anti-tank mine. Work in this mode continues until the development of the battery charge. After that, the product is turned off.

According to known data, combat elements SPBE "Motif-3" were adopted in the late eighties. Initially it weapon intended only for aviation, and should have been used with disposable bomb cassettes. The cassette with combat elements receives the designation by type RBC-500 SPBE.

A few years later an improved version of the SPBE was created. The project SPBE-D "Motive 3M" provided for some restructuring of the combat element, which allowed to abandon a separate command device. In the case of the SPBE-D, the element simultaneously carries both the warhead and the radio altimeter with the required parameters. In this case, a cylindrical body with an additional side cover was retained. SPBE-D for aviation was adopted before the beginning of the nineties and was proposed for use with existing bomb cassettes. Due to the abandonment of the 500-kg command element, the cassette now contained 15 combat equipment.


Combat element close-up. Photo Zonwar.ru


In 1996, the 9М55К1 rocket projectile for the Smerch MLRS was adopted by the ground forces. Each such projectile carries five self-aiming combat elements of the “D” version that do not need commands from the side. The characteristics of the projectile propulsion system make it possible to deliver combat elements to the range from 20 to 70 km.

In 2016, NPO Basalt presented a new development that develops the ideas of existing projects. At the Army-2016 forum, the planning bomb PBC-500U “Drill” was shown, equipped with combat elements SPBE-K. The cassette with a special aerodynamic appearance, using satellite and inertial navigation, is able to plan for a distance of 50 km and deliver combat elements to the 15 target area.

A deeply modernized element called SPBE-K is distinguished by a slightly increased size and a different shape of the body. The cylindrical body of the parachute compartment and the fighting compartment now have greater elongation, and the instrument compartment has an increased height. Probably, all these improvements are directly related to the use of a combined target search system. In addition to an infrared opto-electronic device for the detection of armored vehicles, a radar system is now used. The latter has the function of identifying the state affiliation of a ground object.


Planning bomb cassette PBK-500U "Drill". Photo Vitalykuzmin.net


As far as is known, until recently the self-aiming combat elements of the SPBE family were not used in real operations. They appeared too late to get to the war in Afghanistan, and the terrorist organizations in Chechnya did not have enough armored vehicles. Nevertheless, the original weapon was still able to be tested in practice. In October, 2015 of the year - just a few days after the start of the operation of the Aerospace Forces in Syria - it became known that the RBC-500 SPBE cassettes were included in the ammunition pack of the Russian bombers.

There are reports of several cases of the use of such weapons against clusters of equipment and manpower of terrorist organizations. In all cases, it was about the successful defeat of several armored combat vehicles. At the same time, part of the combat elements, not finding targets, fell to the ground. Photographs of SPBE products lying on the ground appeared in various sources, but for some reason the pictures of the burned armored vehicles were not published. Probably in this way the opponent was trying to keep a good face on an extremely bad game.

It is known that the systems of several models of the “Motive-3” family are produced serially and are supplied to the Russian armed forces, which use them together with a number of delivery vehicles. NPO Basalt regularly displays its developments at various military-technical exhibitions, but export orders for SPBE, as far as we know, are absent. The existing international agreements played a significant role in this development. In 2008, more than a hundred states — curiously, mostly without developed defense industries and their own production of modern systems — signed the Convention on Cluster Munitions. As a result, the international market for such weapons, regardless of their purpose, has declined sharply.

Defeat task tank or other armored vehicles from the upper hemisphere can be solved in different ways. The Motiv-3 self-aiming combat elements projects created by the experts of the Bazalt NPO offer and implement not the most difficult variant of armored vehicles attack, but at the same time they have a number of characteristic advantages. Combat elements can be used by aviation and rocket artillery to deliver effective strikes against accumulations of equipment. At the same time, the probability of a successful defeat is high enough, which was confirmed both in tests and in the course of a real conflict.


On the materials of the sites:
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  1. +8
    14 February 2018 15: 23
    NPO "Basalt" regularly shows its developments at various military-technical exhibitions

    ... Related videos
    1. 0
      17 February 2018 04: 46
      In the note, there is a strange photo - a supply that has not found a target should not lie around, but self-destruct.
  2. +4
    14 February 2018 15: 41
    Article- "bullshit"! How can such nonsense print? request fool
    1. +3
      14 February 2018 16: 29
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Article- "bullshit"! How can such nonsense print?

      Well, do not be so categorical, not many noticed the absurdities.
      1. +5
        14 February 2018 18: 46
        Quote: Bongo
        not many noticed the absurdity

        Well, let’s say sadness! Well, let’s say ..... "but the men don’t know" ... but they are so "enlightened" by this "article" that you then suffer to argue that "luminium is not iron "!
    2. +1
      14 February 2018 20: 04
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      Article- "bullshit"! How can such nonsense print?

      Well, it's not entirely XNUMX% nonsense, something quite authentic to itself. I only hope that the existing shortcomings are a conscientious oversight of the author, and not a deliberate informational sabotage in relation to the consciousness of the mass scatterbrained reader. smile
      From SW. hi
      1. +3
        15 February 2018 00: 34
        Quote: Raphael_83
        not entirely XNUMX% nonsense, something quite authentic

        Not entirely .... Yes
        Quote: Raphael_83
        not intentional information sabotage in relation to the consciousness of the mass malacholny reader.

        I hope .... what
        Well .... judging by how forum users came to the defense of the author, I got a little "excited"! I thank the members of the forum for "sobering comments" and ... we must still read this article wink (otherwise I: "cast a cursory glance" at the text; noticed "absurdities" and ...,, with indignation, ",, hit the road" ....)
  3. +7
    14 February 2018 17: 40
    Not later than the mid-eighties, the Bazalt research and production association (Krasnoarmeysk, Moscow Region) began developing an anti-tank system using completely new operating principles.

    The Americans conducted proving tests of their SPBE in 1979! Intelligence of the USSR found out that the Americans are developing this and stole some information.


    The lower cut of this charge is made in the form of a cumulative funnel and has copper claddingthat enhances combat performance.

    Correctly! And in European SPBE (BONUS, SMArt 155), tantalum lining is used, which has an almost double density, therefore, armor penetration is twice as high.

    The existing cumulative charge during the explosion forms a jet consisting of hot gases and molten metal.

    No. The charge forms a striking element. Russian SPBEs form a slightly elongated damaging element, while NATO ones form a more elongated one. All other things being equal, the more elongated the penetrator, the greater its armor penetration.



    Inside the curved casing is placed an infrared radiation receiver used as a means of searching for targets. The photosensitive elements of such an optoelectronic device are placed in the opening of the bottom of the casing. According to well-known data, the receiver is capable of operating in the ranges with a wavelength of 3-5 microns and 8-14 microns, which allows it to find the thermal radiation characteristic of military vehicles.

    And NATO SPBE, in addition to a dual-band IR sensor, is also equipped with a laser profilometer. It will determine the 3D profile of the target, which allows you to distinguish the tank from other objects and hit colder targets, making measures to reduce the visibility of the tank in the IR range ineffective.

    Therefore, Russian SPBEs will not be able to distinguish a tank from a truck, which will result in civilian casualties and SPBE overspending.


    The latter has the function of identifying the nationality of a ground object.

    Brad.
    1. +6
      14 February 2018 18: 16
      Well, they are always the first and the best, and their sky is bluer, and the water tastes better. The weapons to them are the most accurate and smart, therefore, from their attacks among civilian victims never happens. Bravo Victor1111)) !! Hello, NATO and the USA!
      1. +6
        14 February 2018 18: 48
        Quote: Slavs
        Well, they are always first and better, and their sky is bluer, and the water is tastier.

        What was it? "LIE!" ?

        Well then read:


        1. +2
          15 February 2018 15: 24
          The advertisement is engine of the trade ! Very colorful booklets.
    2. +5
      14 February 2018 19: 59
      Quote: Victor1111
      The charge forms a damaging element
      Exactly, it’s the “strike core”, like the classic already remote anti-board mines. It is in relation to this design that the talk about the cumulative jet as in contact ammunition (RPG, ATGM) can not go. hi
    3. +2
      14 February 2018 20: 39
      Viktor1111, thanks for the significant addition to the information of the author of the article.
      Some simplification of our Element, in comparison with NATO, caused a decrease in its characteristics.
      It can be assumed that the damaging effect of SPBE remained acceptable and consistent with the Price / Quality Index. Is not it?
      1. +7
        14 February 2018 21: 21
        Quote: mervino2007
        Some simplification of our Element, in comparison with NATO, caused a decrease in its characteristics.

        8)))
        Tantalum is 46 times more expensive than copper. With armor penetration allegedly "twice as much" (by the way, this statement is clean from the ceiling)
        1. +2
          14 February 2018 22: 27
          Quote: Spade
          allegedly "twice as much" (by the way, this statement is purely from the ceiling)

          It makes no sense to answer illiterate urya-patriots, but I will write a couple of posts.

          The speed of the impact nucleus is about 2 km / s - both for NATO and for Russians. But tantalum has an almost twice as high density, so the mass of such an UY will be twice as large (with the same thickness of the lining). Accordingly, the kinetic energy of such an AS will also be twice as large. But to understand such elementary things, it is necessary to know at least school physics, and Lopatov, judging by what is written, has big problems with this.

          Means of destruction and ammunition: Textbook / A. V. Babkin, V. A. Veldanov, E. F. Gryaznov and others; Under the total. ed. V.V. Selivanova. - M .: Publishing house of MSTU im. N.E. Bauman, 2008.

          Publisher's abstract: The classification of means of destruction and ammunition is presented in a systematized form, the characteristics of their effectiveness are given. Fragmentation, high-explosive and cumulative ammunition, volumetric explosion ammunition, means of destruction using a shock core and reactive armor devices, concrete-piercing and armor-piercing ammunition, as well as auxiliary ammunition are described.
          The textbook materials correspond to the course of lectures delivered by the authors to students of MSTU. N.E. Bauman. For students and graduate students of technical universities and engineering universities, cadets of military schools, students and associates of military academies.

          7. Means of destruction using the shock core.
          Quote: To date, heavy metal claddings have already found application in the latest models of ammunition with PPS (for example, the SMArt-155 submunition for the 155 mm artillery shell of the same name has a tantalum lining and provides armor penetration b before. = 1,1 dz).

          b prev. - ultimate armor penetration
          dз - charge diameter
          SFZ - Projectile Shaping Charge
          1. +3
            14 February 2018 23: 48
            Quote: Victor1111
            The speed of the impact core is about 2 km / s - both NATO and Russian.

            And who told you that the speed of the impact core is a constant?
            It's not the speed of light 8)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))
            ))))

            Quote: Victor1111
            illiterate patriots

            It is not necessary for a person who uses the expression "diameter of the radio beam" to try to accuse someone of "illiteracy" 8))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))))
            )))))))))

            Quote: Victor1111
            But to understand such elementary things, it is necessary to know at least school physics, and Lopatov, judging by what is written, has big problems with this.

            Just not the same. And therefore, I know the kinetic energy formula, and some do not. 8))))))))))))))

            Quote: Victor1111
            The materials of the textbook correspond to the course of lectures given by the authors to students of the Moscow State Technical University. N.E. Bauman. For students and graduate students of technical universities and engineering universities, cadets of military schools, students and adjuncts of military academies.

            That is, for smart people, not for you. For you, they needed to add that the kinetic energy for the tantalum shell is twice as high only for identical charges of the same weight, composition and geometry. 8)))))))))))))))))))))
            And if you knew the kinetic energy formula, then you would have guessed that it is much more profitable to increase speed than mass along with the cost of 8)))))))))))))))))))))))))))) )))))))
          2. 0
            1 March 2018 02: 46
            Quote: Victor1111
            Quote: Spade
            allegedly "twice as much" (by the way, this statement is purely from the ceiling)

            It makes no sense to answer illiterate urya-patriots, but I will write a couple of posts.

            The speed of the impact nucleus is about 2 km / s - both for NATO and for Russians. But tantalum has an almost twice as high density, so the mass of such an UY will be twice as large (with the same thickness of the lining). Accordingly, the kinetic energy of such an AS will also be twice as large. But to understand such elementary things, it is necessary to know at least school physics, and Lopatov, judging by what is written, has big problems with this.


            No, Victor, the kinetic energy of the NATO charge will not be 2 times higher but 4ri !!!

            impulse P = m * v^2
            v^2 is the same speed....
        2. 0
          15 February 2018 01: 28
          A club is 100500 times cheaper than an assault rifle, while it has a large area of ​​destruction ..... ;-)
          1. +4
            15 February 2018 09: 36
            You gave the wrong example. It is necessary to compare the price with the efficiency of a blued machine and a gilded
      2. +2
        14 February 2018 22: 22
        Quote: mervino2007
        Is not it?

        Yes, yes. It's just that urya-patriots think that Russian weapons are always superior to NATO ones.
        1. +1
          15 February 2018 05: 33
          Is it really the other way around?
        2. 0
          15 February 2018 15: 27
          Yes. In most cases, if it's not a Hollywood movie.
    4. +2
      14 February 2018 20: 40
      Quote: Victor1111
      And NATO SPBE, in addition to a dual-band IR sensor, is also equipped with a laser profilometer

      And you can here about this phrase in more detail. As far as I know, the French did not bring their lidar at SPBE to mind and to production.
      1. +3
        14 February 2018 22: 24
        Quote: Spade
        Can you elaborate on this phrase.

        I have provided a screenshot from the official document of the manufacturer SPBE Skeet Warhead. Where is more detailed?

        Quote: Spade
        the French did not bring their lidar on SPBE to mind and to production

        There is not a lidar, but a laser profiler, which is much simpler.

        Watch with 0:59 (SPBE Skeet Warhead used in the Scorpion anti-tank mine)


        Quote: Spade
        As far as I know, the French did not bring their lidar on SPBE to mind and to production.

        One grandmother said?
        1. +6
          14 February 2018 22: 54
          Quote: Victor1111
          I gave a screenshot from an official document

          Since when did an advertising booklet about promising developments become an "official document"?

          Quote: Victor1111
          One grandmother said?

          Yeah. The one that "steers" the content of the official website of "Nekster." The serial “Bonus-2” did not receive a lidar, only an improved IR sensor. 8)))))

          Quote: Victor1111
          There is not a lidar, but a laser profiler, which is much simpler.

          Yeah, these are not matches, these are wooden sticks with sulfur, used to make fire, and they are much simpler.
          I hesitate to ask, do you even know what lidar is?
    5. +4
      14 February 2018 20: 54
      Quote: Victor1111
      It will determine the 3D profile of the target, which allows you to distinguish the tank from other objects

      At the same time, this triggers the COEP and, as a result, does not hit the target.


      Quote: Victor1111
      Brad.

      Question:
      Why do you recklessly believe that it is possible to identify the target with the help of a lidar and call "delirium" a similar process carried out using a radar sensor?
      1. +2
        14 February 2018 22: 29
        Quote: Spade
        At the same time, this triggers the COEP and, as a result, does not hit the target.

        When SPBE shines a laser on the target, it is too late to use the COEC. Not to mention the fact that countering SPBE with the help of the CEC is Lopatov’s wet, patriotic fantasies.
        Such a COEP is only on the "Armata", of which only 20 pieces were riveted.

        Quote: Spade
        Why do you recklessly believe that it is possible to identify a target using lidar

        I do not believe, I know. Americans showed such experimental results during field tests of missiles that were equipped with a lidar. It is in the public domain.

        Quote: Spade
        and call "delirium" a similar process carried out using a radar sensor?

        Because the diameter of the radio beam on the target will be incomparably larger than the laser beam, so there will be problems with determining the 3D profile. In addition, state affiliation is determined using the appropriate radio equipment (radio interrogator and radio responder), and there are no radio transponders on the tanks.
        1. +2
          14 February 2018 23: 28
          Quote: Victor1111
          When the SPBE shines a laser on the target, it is too late to use the COEP.

          eight))))))))))))))))))))
          Manages to protect from a shell with a semi-active LGNSN, but from a much longer active lidar, no? Paradox...
          Or do you just not know how the backlight for such shells is carried out? 8))))))))))

          Quote: Victor1111
          I do not believe, I know.

          It remains to share the sources of "knowledge" 8)))

          Quote: Victor1111
          Because the radio beam diameter

          eight))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
          Radio beam diameter
          Y-yes ....
          Synthetic aperture radar images have long been used to identify targets. Realistically, and not in promotional brochures about promising developments. In addition, radars of this type are used to create 3D maps. Again, really. And not only for the earth's surface.
          And for some reason the "diameter of the radio beam" does not interfere 8))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
          1. 0
            1 March 2018 02: 56
            Lopatov, you read that UTB 'kinetic penetrator' and only then talk nonsense.
            it’s just a dumb projectile that has no aiming at the target. The path of the targets was calculated in advance and the projectile was launched and that’s it. No way you will not defend yourself. And dynamic protection will not help you.
            This is your synthesized aperture as you put on a stupid bomb with stupid kin. shells ??? Size ?? All ??? Nutrition???? Again nonsense.
            And then read how the request-response system "your alien works for fighters, for example.
            (Vitkor probably wanted to say the frequency of radio waves ???) ??
    6. +5
      15 February 2018 09: 52
      which will lead to casualties among the civilian population and overspending of SPBE.
      -----------------------------------
      I did not understand this. Suppose a NATO smart SPBE, unlike a dumb Russian one, distinguishes a tank from a truck (already descending by parachute, but how else?). Realizing that this is not what he was looking for, will he return to the container?
      1. +5
        17 February 2018 16: 14
        Why in a container? He will play the truck car driver an American anthem to the beat blinking with lidar, then in political correct terms he will apologize for the inconvenience and present his tantalum base for color to prove friendship.
  4. 0
    14 February 2018 18: 13
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    Article- "bullshit"! How can such nonsense print? request fool

    "I don't know who wrote, oh, ...., I read" this is Chekhov.
    And the tolerant _programmers, the guardians moooooored, even the classics defecate ... :(
  5. +7
    14 February 2018 18: 23
    Quote: Victor1111
    Therefore, Russian SPBEs will not be able to distinguish a tank from a truck, which will result in civilian casualties and SPBE overspending.

    I wonder what a truck with "civilians" can do in the SPBE destruction zone?
    1. +7
      15 February 2018 00: 13
      Quote: Sverdlov
      I wonder what a truck with "civilians" can do in the SPBE destruction zone?

      It would be more correct to ask - and such a civilian population is sitting in trucks in the zone of application of SPBE? In general, moralists with snot about love for the civilian population, morally stable "humane" NATO ammunition (often from depleted uranium)) and monstrously bloodthirsty Russian bombs, most often receive a small but constant salary supplement in NATO cyber troops.
    2. +1
      15 February 2018 12: 57
      Quote: Sverdlov
      I wonder what a truck with "civilians" can do in the SPBE destruction zone?

      A truck with a "civilian population" may do something .... or it may not do anything ... just SPBE "will not ask him. Where to establish the affected area" ... wink
  6. 0
    14 February 2018 19: 11
    Quote: Victor1111
    Other things being equal, the longer the penetrator, the more armor penetration it has.

    Interesting again. How was the elongated penetrator from the yellow picture "cast"? And even pubic hair turned out.
    Where does the picture come from?
  7. +5
    14 February 2018 21: 27
    Quote: Victor1111
    The charge forms a striking element. Russian SPBEs form a slightly elongated damaging element, while NATO ones form a more elongated one. All other things being equal, the more elongated the penetrator, the greater its armor penetration

    Not this way:
    - the damaging element of the SPBE is called the shock core;
    - the armor penetration of the impact core depends on the diameter of the SPBE, for the copper lining of the explosive charge, the diameter of the impact core is equal to 1/2 of the diameter of the SPBE, for tantalum lining - the diameter of the impact core is equal to the diameter of the SPBE (hence the higher penetration).

    That's only when using tantalum (rare earth metal) in a wide army operation in a week you will be left without pants / fly into the pipe laughing
    1. +2
      15 February 2018 00: 51
      Quote: Operator
      That's only when using tantalum (rare earth metal) in a wide army operation in a week you will be left without pants / fly into the pipe

      By the way, a "compromise" is also used: an alloy of copper and tantalum ...
      1. +2
        15 February 2018 11: 04
        Quote: Nikolaevich I
        By the way, a "compromise" is also used: an alloy of copper and tantalum ...

        All these dances around materials are forced. And they have to be used only when more profitable ways - increasing the diameter and increasing the speed cannot be applied due to the restrictions imposed by the "delivery vehicle" by an artillery shell.

        With a diameter, it’s understandable, but with speed, there are limitations in the explosives used.
        But ceteris paribus, simply replacing TNT / TNT with okfol increases the speed of the shock core by one third.

        Once Europeans went about the US, destroyed the development and production of their own MLRS. Well, when, for logistical reasons, the Americans abandoned the usual PCs for their MLRS / HIMARS, the Europeans had to just eat it ...
        1. +3
          15 February 2018 13: 38
          Quote: Spade
          All these dances around materials are forced. And they have to be used only when more profitable ways - increasing the diameter and increasing the speed cannot be applied due to the restrictions imposed by the "delivery vehicle" by an artillery shell.

          Actually, the topic of "increasing the efficiency of the PPS (EFP)" is much "clumpier" expressed on this page ... The developers "solve" even more diverse "hacks": ways to form more elongated penetrators by explosion, forming a given shape of penetrators ("skirts" ), the formation of plumage in place of the "skirt" to solve the problem of stabilizing "impact cores" ... etc.
          1. +3
            15 February 2018 15: 01
            Quote: Nikolaevich I
            Actually, the topic of "improving the efficiency of the PPS (EFP)" is much more "expressed" on this page ...

            Definitely.
            For there is simply no complete mathematical model of what is happening. There are some "estimates" based solely on experiments, empiricism.
            And no one can bet that, for example, it doesn’t turn out that the aluminum cladding will give maximum armor penetration and barrage in comparison with heavier materials. But with a special, cunning funnel shape.
            1. +2
              15 February 2018 15: 08
              Quote: Spade
              For there is simply no complete mathematical model of what is happening. There are some "estimates" based solely on experiments, empiricism.

              This is the case !
  8. +3
    14 February 2018 21: 45
    It's the right thing, only analogues: SKEET-am and Sadarm-am - for more than 30 years.
    1. +2
      15 February 2018 08: 57
      So our product is still "Soviet".
  9. +2
    15 February 2018 19: 52
    In general, of course, it is informative, but Cyril should not allow repetitions, and also read (at least on Wik) about cumulative ammunition, so as not to write
    [/ quote] leads to the formation of a cumulative jet, consisting of gases and molten copper [quote]
    Is it from a height of 100 m that he gathered a jet and penetrate armor with "gases"? Let him respect the principle of the formation of a shock nucleus, if education allows.
  10. +2
    16 February 2018 10: 25
    The author - did not understand the principle of the element and retold it, as I understood. But he did not understand him!
    The error is not in the description of aiming or recognition. According to the author’s description, there is no difference between this ammunition and the usual free-falling PTAB. From the description it’s not at all clear why the element 2 needs a parachute, an altimeter, IR sensors. According to the author: the element simply falls on the target and explodes, as in contact blasting.
    Author, go learn materiel!
  11. +2
    20 February 2018 18: 05
    Why I love topvar is for these cancer holivars of experts
  12. 0
    25 August 2022 16: 29
    Well, where are these "smart" ammunition? HIMARS both hammered at us and continue to hammer.