Arms of Armenia

VAHAN automatic

Designed by engineer Vahan Minasyan.
Automation weapons It works on the principle of semi-free shutter, which allows to simplify the design for semi-handicraft production. Weapons can be equipped with grenade launcher GP-30, bayonet, telescopic sight. VAHAN is very similar to MBK-2, since V. Minasyan, serving in the army, used this machine gun, and it also served as the basis for VAHANa.

Features
Caliber - 5,45 mm
Cartridge - mm 5,45X39
Initial bullet speed - 1000 m / s
Barrel length - 415 mm
Weight - 3,85 kg
Magazine capacity - cartridges 30 / 45
Effective range:
with a mechanical sight - 500 m
with an optical sight - 1000 m
Rate of Shooting - 800 rds / min
Length - 920 mm
Length with folded butt - 725 mm
Removable barrel
Optical sight - 4,5x

K-3

Type: automatic
Country: Armenia
History Service
Years of operation: since 1999
Used: Armenia
History of production
Designed: 1996 year
Features
Weight, kg: 2,7
Length, mm: 700
Barrel length, mm: 415
Cartridge: 5,45 × 39 mm
Caliber, mm: 5,45
Principles of operation: removal of powder gases, butterfly valve
Rate of fire
rounds / min: 600 — 650
Initial velocity of the bullet, m / s: 900
Sighting range, m: 400
Type of ammunition: box magazine for 30 or 45 rounds

K-3 - the Armenian automatic machine of the bull-pop system with the possibility of automatic and semi-automatic fire, as well as fire from a grenade launcher. Developed by the Department of Military Industry at the Ministry of Defense of Armenia

History

For the first time, an X-NUMX K-3 machine gun was introduced to a wide audience in the 5,45 year. Despite the fact that the principle of operation of the machine is comparable to the principle of operation of the Kalashnikov machine gun, its configuration is made in the form of a bullpup system, that is, the percussion mechanism and the magazine are located in the butt behind the trigger. According to the main indicators, it is similar to AK-1996, while the Armenian machine gun has a lower price, better accuracy and less return. K-74 for the most part is made of iron. The design of the machine provides the ability to install a standard PSR-3 optical sight with 1-x multiple telescopic zoom, also produced in Armenia. [4]

K-11 (sniper rifle)

K-11 - 5,45 mm sniper rifle of Armenian production. [1] K-11- rifle with manual shutter, has many components of the automatic rifle K-3.
It was first introduced in the 1996 year.

Pistol K-2

Comments

[Dust]

Wah, wah, but we didn’t know!
What you can’t do in your garage with a drill and file ...

[Artmark]

and you can ????????????

[Bozkurt]

That's right, collected in the garage, you can immediately see. Cheap copy of Koloshnikov ...
And change the avatar ku, only a crow will suit you highchik. Your beak-shaped nose really hurts ....

[Igor]

What is this? Reincarnation of the faculty?

[Levonarmenia]

if you saw and sheared from this weapon say so

[Igor]

I'm not saying that the assault rifle is bad, it just looks like a teaching staff, Kalashnikov also looks like StG-44

[ARMYAN]

the machine is good, comfortable, the main attraction over the rest is the trigger
if you take into account that the first steps are mi on the right path

[Fidain]

A ti strelyal ????
Eto kustarno pregatovlinie obrazci i dazhe sravnivat ix s voenami obrazcami ne nado

[ARMYAN]

Quote: Fidain

This is a makeshift pre-assembly of the specimen and does not even need to compare them with military specimens

Wahan is lightweight, comfortable, in a word, it does its job by 5+, but the improvement did not interfere.
the defense industry of Armenia expands every year

[Arminian power]

Quote: Fidain

Eto kustarno pregatovlinie obrazci i dazhe sravnivat ix s voenami obrazcami ne nado

vi tochno iz etogo orujiya ne strelyali ...... a etot avtomat svayo delo delaet na 5+

[markus]

Well done Armenians !!! Since the time of Karabakh 90 / x, I remember how surprised I was at their ingenuity ...

[lezgin]

in the 90s, Armenians even fought with a pitchfork ... and won, I join

[Artmark]

the main thing is that this weapon helped those who needed

[lezgin]

and help don't doubt

[Bozkurt]

And what else can they shoot ??????

[sergey69]

Automatic machines - alteration of Kalashnikov. went the way of Ukraine.

[Reddragon]

Along the US, resembles a bevel under Thompson's PP

[Chicot 1]

In general, first impressions ...

"Vagan" - the weapon looks quite archaic. And in spite of the declared characteristics, I personally do not have much confidence in me. And above all, due to insufficient technological elaboration of the design. This is what determined this appearance, which gravitates more towards the second half of the twentieth century ... And this makes you think about the quality of the assembly and the overall reliability of the structure. In addition, they inspire some confusion and the possibility of modernizing this sample ...
K-3 is essentially the next bullpup from AK, and most likely was built without a major overhaul of the prototype design. Therefore, it has all its advantages and disadvantages. Naturally corrected for a bullpup lineup ...
It would be much more logical to make a sniper rifle on the basis of a three-line or, for example, a hunting carbine with manual reset, than to use a receiver "a la Kalashnikov" for this ...

Everything else - the PP and the gun are generally difficult to take seriously. And most likely they more relate to the category of dangerous toys than competitive weapons. Moreover, it is dangerous for the owner ... Signs of poor workmanship on the face. It’s enough to take a closer look at the photos ... I think that the lack of thoughtfulness of the design also takes place. For experience shows that with all its simplicity it’s quite difficult to create a really high-quality pistol or PP. However, this applies equally to all small arms in general ...

However, dashing trouble is the beginning ... Sigapur also once started almost from scratch ...

[Tyumen]

Quote: Chicot 1

without coordination alteration

What is this? Or cardinal?

[Chicot 1]

Well ... it turns out that I kag-ba "radically" changed the spelling of the word ...

[George IV]

What is MBK-2, which is mentioned at the beginning of the article?
I can not find by search.

[Dust]

It intrigued me too - what kind of beast was it and where could he serve with it?

[Chicot 1]

Everywhere, where "Vagan" is mentioned, this most mysterious MBK-2 is mentioned ... However, nowhere is there detailed information about this machine ...
He’s just elusive ... Or terribly secret ... Maybe the author of the material will explain to all of us what kind of weapon it is? .. Affectionately requested, dear Levonarmenia!

[ward]

Well what can I say ... this is a battlefield weapon ... easy to manufacture ... reliable in operation ... that is not unimportantly adapted for mass production in conditions of, say, not very advanced technological equipment ... plus article .. .

[Chicot 1]

And on which battlefield has it already managed to fight? ..
With what success and with what characteristics in terms of efficiency and reliability? ..
Do they even reach the characteristics of the AK-74? ..
How many samples can the industry of Armenia give out? ..
What is the cost price of the produced sample, and does it justify its effectiveness? ..

And so on and so forth, and so on ...

[ward]

You carefully read the article ... turned to the Armenian Embassy with your list of issues ... refused ... this is said .. especially the cost of military secrets ... but by the way agreed bash on bash ... from you the same on AK-74 ...

[Chicot 1]

Respected wardThe AK-74 went through a mass of armed conflicts from Afghanistan to Tskhinval. During which he proved himself to be quite effective and extremely reliable weapon, regardless of climatic conditions and other external factors. Its release is organized by a mass series in Izhevsk. It has a number of modifications and options. Calibrated for different types of cartridges, both domestic and foreign. Issued under license (and without it) in at least a dozen countries. In terms of cost / effectiveness, it is one of the best in the world (if not the best) among representatives of its class ...

Can you say the same about the "Vagan"? .. Well, at least half of this? .. Or is there some part of everything that can be said about the AK-74? .. K-3 does not count, it is same Kalash ...
So, I'm all in the spotlight ...

[ward]

If you read mine carefully, you probably paid attention to "reviews", and so according to the reviews of friends who fought on the side of Armenia ... and further in the text ...

[Chicot 1]

The phrase "according to reviews" is very, very loose. And for this, it is advisable for the Kag-Bae to initially clarify "according to the reviews" who exactly ... However, even "and further in the text" does not at all carry the answers to questions ...

And it’s damn interesting how to correctly and correctly interpret your phrase “who fought on the side of Armenia”? .. After all, as far as I know, Armenia does not officially wage wars with any state ...

[Arminian power]

main nadyojnoe

[toguns]

Thanks to the author for the review article about the firearms of Armenian designers.

[Levonarmenia]

а ето беспилотник Армении http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BD%D0%BA_(%D0%91%D0%9F%D0%9B%
D0% 90)

[Bozkurt]

Yes, damn they survived, the Armenians are building drones, Russia cannot offer its armed forces an effective drone and for this wants to cooperate with Israel, and these mockery make a mockery of themselves ....

[Mondeo]

Some bullshit. An ax on hand is more effective than this rubbish

[Artmark]

it (bullshit) does its job!

[Arminian power]

vid ne opetitnii no uveriayu vas dostatochno praktichen i nadiojen

[Levonarmenia]

K-11 i K-15 ....

[Artmark]

Dear who will give us his worth?

[Drednout]

The cartridges are still of Soviet caliber, but it would be interesting to try out all these units in practice (naturally at the shooting range).
For example, it was possible to hold the Chechen analogue of ultrasound under the Makarov cartridge in hands - it was something (just like the notorious "Wolf"). A noisy and more dangerous product for the shooter from the former hammer and sickle plant in Grozny. Aiming is useless. The store sometimes had to be held, because it fell out.
And what enterprise of Armenia did it produce?

[almost demobil]

Quote: Drednout

And what enterprise of Armenia did it produce?

Probably at YerAZ Levon do not be offended, this is a joke.

[ZUI]

I don’t understand - why change a rather reliable Soviet weapon for this semi-kustarshina? A better mass model of military weapons than AK has not been invented. Of course, you can tinker with sniper rifles - develop your own model, but sniper rifles are expensive and piece goods. And the cost of the "weapon" presented in the article is several times higher than the AK - due to the size of the series.

And in general - a good weapon is good in itself - even aesthetically. It’s unpleasant to pick up the presented gun. Even the TT is more ergonomic, not talking about the PM or CZ-75

And in general - a good weapon is good in itself - even aesthetically. It’s unpleasant to pick up the presented gun. Even the TT is more ergonomic, not talking about the PM or CZ-75

[ZUI]

And in general - a good weapon is good in itself - even aesthetically. It’s unpleasant to pick up the presented gun. Even the TT is more ergonomic, not talking about the PM or CZ-75

[Levonarmenia]

caliber K-3 9x18 a cz-75 9x19 length k-3 195 a cz-75 206 barrel length k-3 118 a cz-75 120 .... a little bit of a haha ​​cz-75

[ZUI]

What does TTX have to do with it - I write that the trunk should be corny beautiful, so that it would be nice to pick up, convenient to use. Beauty is not only aesthetics for the owner, but evidence of a high level of design and production culture. The presented samples are more like the product of a single handicraftsman or a bicycle workshop.
Compare visually:

[ZUI]

No, I don’t understand - why rivet such something if you can buy analogues? The same Americans, not having invented anything better than the 1911 Colt, without hesitation for the army, buy the Italian "Beretta", for the special forces - the Austrian "Glocks" and German "Heckler-Kochs". If you wanted to - they designed something in their own USA, but calculated - and decided to buy it more profitably.

[igor67]

in order to purchase, we need funds (currency), as well as the development of our defense industry, people's employment, taxes

[synchrophasatron]

Armenians have always been good artisans, but this is a weapon - this is some kind of Sharashkin office.

[Region-25.rus]

I don’t know about "good artisans" !!! I constantly see their creations in the form of cottages with "arches, sly yes" and four walls! ! NARYSUI mE beautiful kartynka! what for mE your calculations and CHERTEZHY yes! I'll build it anyway! "

[Artmark]

you probably perceive everything in 3D! and enough mockery of the accent! probably you don’t know a single foreign language

[Predskazamus]

On the mask of al in maya, darling dear. Autocad does not count) ???

[Arminian power]

Quote: synchrophasatron

Armenians have always been good artisans, but this is a weapon - this is some kind of Sharashkin office.

glavnoe ne podvodit iv mishen popadyot

[koosss]

large and detailed review
article plus

[old rocket man]

With all due respect to the opinion of the participants in the discussion, I want to note a few points on the basis of which I evaluated this publication.
1.Armenia is a very poor country surrounded by countries that, to put it mildly, are not completely friendly to Russia, the main supplier of weapons. Consequently, during the period of hostilities, the supply of weapons will be extremely difficult.
2. Small arms, most importantly, at least they must shoot, the reliability of this is checked in Karabakh
3. The machine and the pistol were not intended for export, but only to compensate for the natural, and rather high, decrease during the war, so common calibers and ammunition were chosen.
4. The weapon can be made at the enterprises with limited technological capabilities
5. As for the beauty, remember the Sudaevskiy automatic machine, compared to the PPSh and MP-40, it is just a monster, but it was produced in "bed workshops" and was recognized as one of the best submachine guns of the 2nd world war.
Conclusion: - the Armenians coped with the task perfectly well done

[Artmark]

than rich and happy

[Tan4ik]

Actually on PPS-42 this VAGAN looks like.

[uizik]

Nothing new, but TTX accepted. Well done!

[BorisBM]

Morlodzi guys !! Well done, they’ve created their weapons production out of nothing. While they are making small arms for their army. And we have developments and we only show them new weapons on TV, executed in single copies. And they’ll plan to buy from the cordon, supposedly better there. But any knows, you need to have your own. Foreign requires foreign service and components for repair. And IF TOMORROW is a war, and even with those who sold it to us, you just have to throw it away. Officials from the MO profit from these purchases and will remain with their profits, and our Army will remain without a weapon.

[Bozkurt]

Looking at this artisan, you recall VV, PPSh, PPS, etc.

[xxARAMxx]

40% of electronics for air defense of the USSR was produced in Armenia
In almost all Russian KB you will find an Armenian designer
Mikayan without comment
Yerevan Polytechnic is one of the largest forges for engineers

By the way, when such Russian legends as Karalev and Kalashnikov started, they didn’t even have a garage

Now tell me the reason why Armenia cannot make good weapons.

[kavkaz]

and to whom will he sell?

[lezgin]

weapons are not judged by appearance; this is not a doll.

[venom733]

Looks like scam from crime dashboards