Plan for the winter carte blanche of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the south of Donbass. What hides the regular Ukrainian army at Mariupol?

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In more than three years of confrontation in the Donbass theater of military operations, the degree of unpredictability of the forthcoming actions of the Ukrainian military formations has practically reached its apogee. If, for example, in the summer-autumn period of 2014, it was relatively easy to predict the operational-tactical plans of the Ukrainian armored and artillery units because not so numerous military units of the Armed Forces of the New Russia and the Armed Forces of Ukraine operated on both sides, but on the western the boundaries of the Donetsk-Makeevka and Gorlovsk-Enakiy agglomerations were not yet powerful and tightly located fortified areas of the NM DPR, today the situation has changed dramatically in the opposite direction. The successful closure and liquidation of the “Debaltsevskiy boiler”, as well as the deployment of powerful strongholds of the 1 Army Corps of the Ministry of Defense of the DPR in the areas of Kominternovo and Vodyany (the height of “Daring”) in the Novoazovsk operational direction, finally became the 53 of the separate mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces (OMB ) and the 36-th separate brigade of marines (36-th OBMP) of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in a powerful deterrent against the background of plans to conduct local offensive operations on the Southern and Northern fronts of New Russia.



The number of reconstructed artillery and armored trophy weapons seized from Ukrainian formations in tactical boilers, as well as quite rightly received due to the presence of the “Northern wind” in response to unofficial lethal supplies weapons from the USA and Western Europe, in the corps of the People's Militia of the republics by 2017 exceeded the thousandth mark, which, fortunately, allowed the armies of the republics to give a worthy counter-battery response to the shelling of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, as well as to suppress most attempts in advance tank and infantry attacks on settlements located 3-7 km from the line of contact. Attempts to carry out similar local offensive operations by the forces of one or two tank companies and infantry platoons, we have more than once observed in relation to the villages of Kominternovo (Novoazovskoe ON), Belaya Kamenka (Telmanovskoe ON), Verkhnetoretskoe (Donetsk operational directions), as well as Gladosovo and Travnevoe. But if the latter, staying in the "gray zone", were taken under the control of Ukrainian militants in just a few hours due to the absence of anti-tankmen in the settlements and the necessary number of snipers of the NM DNR, then such actions in relation to the Cominternovo and Verkhnetoretsky would have resulted in huge losses for the Ukrainian militants as in technology, and in personnel. Several similar actions by the Azov regiment, the nationalist formations of the Right Sector and the 36th Marine Brigade were suppressed in the 15th and 16th years.

Nevertheless, to relax in the current operational-tactical situation is absolutely not necessary. Washington’s military-political defeat at the Syrian theater of military operations, where the “Syrian democratic forces” (represented by the Kurdish YPJ / YPG formations) ultimately failed to overcome the Euphrates and take control of the most important highways in the southern part of Deir ez-Zor province, As a result, the Pentagon’s geo-strategic “focus” shifted from the Middle East to the Donbass. But this time, after the debacle of pro-American forces in the mainstream of the Euphrates, the political positions of the administration of the head of the White House became much shakier, due to which the “hawks” in Congress and the State Department were able to finally “spread their wings”, receiving even more tools of political pressure on Donald Trump, whose rating by December 2017, fell to 37%.

The results were not long in coming: just three weeks in December was enough for Trump to approve the delivery of the “Square” American lethal weapons. The first military aid package worth a total of 41,5 million dollars, providing for the transfer to Kiev of large-caliber Barrett M12,7A82 1 rifles, was approved by the US Department of State 21 December 2017 of the year. The second, most widely distributed in the “Square”, package is authorized by 23 December, and provides for the delivery of 35 transport-launching “tubes” of the Javelin FGM-148 complex, as well as 210 anti-tank missiles for them. Its value is close to 47 million. A few days earlier, the Government of Canada at the legislative level ratified a document providing for Ukraine to be included in the list of Allied Allies that can receive Canadian lethal weapons through NATO military sales. Naturally, this means only one thing: Kiev will be able to informally receive almost all types of anti-tank and artillery American weapons, using Ottawa as a transit transshipment point, not burdened with responsibility to the “Minsk” or “Norman” formats.

And judging by what is happening, this scheme begins to be tested safely in practice. For example, in the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, they tried to use a trick, declaring 9 on January 2018 of the year that instead of the Javelin anti-tank systems, the junta’s anti-tankists would receive the TOW-2A / B complexes. This caused a huge resonance in the circles of the Ukrainian militarized formations, because these complexes (except for “TOW-2B Aero”) are equipped with an outdated microwire control system, and also do not allow to work on the “let-forget” principle with hitting targets from the upper hemisphere (in dive mode ). However, the plot turned out to be quite twisted. After all, January 17, the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine V. Muzhenko trumpeting, that the Ukrainian formations are preparing for the adoption of the FGM-148 "Javelin", while the operators will use these systems abroad, obviously, operators of Javelins (Lithuania, USA, France, Great Britain, etc.). He also said that the launching “tubes” and anti-tank guided missiles would arrive in the “Square” in 2 — 6 months. After one more day, Poroshenko announced the transfer of “Darts” to the Ukrainian military formations, focusing on the fact that this military aid package would be fully financed by the US defense department; all in the favorite "asking" style Square. Nevertheless, laughter is laughter, and there is a beginning of a new phase of Western military technical support for the current Ukrainian regime, where the militarization of the junta is being transferred from an unofficial form to a fully legal field. From this point on, numerous types of small arms and anti-tank weapons will simply flood officially into Ukraine, while various types of artillery weapons, including adjustable artillery shells, mortar mines, and maybe something more serious, will get to the Ukrainian formations through the “Canadian Voentorg ".

“For a snack” 18 January 280-mi people's deputies The Verkhovna Rada nevertheless accepted the perfidious and to the core criminal bill No. 7163 “On Donbass Reintegration”, the “critical” amendments of which, in fact, finally liquidate any obligations of Kiev to the Normandy Four and the "Minsk format", unleashing the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hands to continue the punitive operation against Donetsk and Lugansk. Boris Gryzlov, Russia's plenipotentiary representative in the “Tripartite Contact Group” to resolve the situation in the Donbas, responded most eloquently to the situation with the ratification of the above-mentioned bill. He called on the LDNR “is preparing for defense.” It is not at all difficult to understand that the recognition of the Russian side as an “aggressor”, in parallel with the official activation of the western military trade union, removes from Moscow any restrictions on the mirror support of the republics. At the same time, it can be provided both directly and through South Ossetia or Abkhazia (a mirror-image of the “Canadian Voentorg”).

It is not difficult to assume that this development of the situation will soon lead to another escalation scenario in the Donbas, but not on the scale that we have observed over the past year. An extremely important point here is the realization by the Nazi "top" in Kiev that the current US regime is in an extremely difficult political situation after blocking the SDF within only the eastern bank of the Euphrates, as well as after the Syrian Arab Army encircled the military infrastructure of the USMC at the At-Tanf base , which finally binds Washington hand and foot in any attempt to pull the blanket over to its side on the issue of the rapid expansion of the 55-kilometer security zone by the forces of the "New Syrian Army" or the FSA. Under the circumstances, the only way to save the face of Washington remains the support of Kyiv in the Donbass, and not the usual one (with strategic drones RQ-4A), but a wide-spectrum one, with the participation of the Special Operations Forces, the transfer of precision weapons, etc. All this in the square has long been “probed”, and therefore they will continue destructive actions for further aggravation.

It is very important to analyze the possible operational directions in which the junta can attempt an offensive operation. Immediately, we note that no general offensive, about which numerous alarmists and other military “experts” of the Runet like to discuss in the comments, is out of the question, because the defense of the new Azov, Donetsk, Gorlovka and Debaltsev directions is today at an unprecedented level as in in terms of local anti-tank "barriers", and in terms of artillery "kulaks", which means that the attempt of their assault on the part of the junta will end in wrecking Ukrainian formations in battles near the line of contact with conductive their "softening" and the transition NM DNR units counterattacked. The fact is that on the western coast of Kalmius, the Ukrainian Armed Forces do not have a single full-fledged fortified area, except for Mariupol, Volnovakha and the “Kurakhovsky knot”. Even if the Ukrainian units will be able to temporarily break through the front line in the above directions, they will not be able to gain a foothold in new positions, since the depth of the rear areas here varies from 45 to 70 km, which will allow the DNI army to successfully distribute forces and take the enemy into regular tactical "boilers ". As a result, the defeat of the latter in battles will mean the total failure of the junta on the southern front of the DPR.

However, not everything is so simple here. In addition to the 3-x of the above highly protected operational areas, there are also the so-called “risk windows” in the defense of the People’s Militia of the DPR, whose security is almost an order of magnitude worse than that observed in the Svetlodar springboard area. We are talking about the southern sections of the Telmanovsky Isthmus, or to be more precise, about the Pishevik-October-Rosa Luxemburg loopholes, as well as Pavlopol-Sosnovskoye-Konkovo. The operational depth of the rear zones in these areas does not reach 40 km (from the contact line to the Russian border), while the distance from the developed fortified areas 1 of the AK NM DPR in Novoazovsk, Bezymenny and Telmanovo exceeds 10 km. This, in turn, creates significant difficulties for the divisions of NM DPR in organizing direct fire control of the western approaches to the strategic Starobeshevo-Novoazovsk route; It is this highway that is the only “artery” for operational saturation of the Southern Front of the DPR with additional units being transferred from the central part of the republic and the rear areas.

The catch is that in order to ensure that the fire control of country roads along the Pishevik-October-Rosa Luxemburg line, where the APU has the most chances for a breakthrough, the positions of the DPR anti-tank artillery batteries with 2A29 "Rapier" guns are in service should be deployed near such settlements as Ukrainian, Chumak and Samsonovo. It is from these lines that the more or less effective use of the 100-mm "Rapier" against the Ukrainian armored "fists" is possible. Moreover, calculations of Konkurs-M ATGMs capable of effectively striking Ukrainian T-64БВ not only in side projections, but also in frontal ones (using tandem ATGM 9М113М with armor penetration 750 mm for dynamic protection). At the same time, the provincial infrastructure of the above-mentioned villages does not allow NM DPR units to create powerful fortifications in the south of the Telman district, especially against the background of the 2,5-multiple superiority of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the number of vehicles. In favor of ukrov here also plays the proximity of Sartana and Volnovakhi. These large settlements are located closer to the “risk windows” in 2 — 2,5 are times closer than Novoazovsk or Bezmennoe; It is logical that the tactical advantage here will be on the side of the APU. Moreover, in Volnovakha and Sartan, mixed formations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, foreign PMCs, and volunteer battalions of more than 5500 — 7000 militants are deployed, which is 3 — 5 times the number of brigades and battalions of the DPR army responsible for the defense of Telmanovsky Isthmus.

The increased likelihood of escalation of the conflict in the “risk windows” “Pavlopol-Sosnovskoye” or “Pishevik-October” is indicated not only by the geography of the southern regions of the Donbas theater of operations conducive to Ukrainian forces, but also by the operational information received from eyewitnesses, military officials and representatives of the Ministry of Defense of the DPR for 2017 year. In particular, at the beginning of the year, a battery of 203-mm self-propelled 2-XNNXX “Peony” ultra-long-range 7-mm self-propelled artillery guns was transferred to Pavlopol (northeastern environs of Mariupol) at the beginning of the year. About this with reference to the operational command of the National Assembly of the DPR, the republican media, as well as the community “Militia briefs”, stated. Later, information about the availability of ACS data under Mariupol became forgotten, nevertheless, the fact remains: the most formidable barreled artillery units in the post-Soviet space continue to remain near the southern part of the contact line. For what? Not hard to guess.


Long-range self-propelled guns 2С7 "Peony", which are in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine


Considering the fact that standard 203-mm high-explosive fragmentation projectiles ZOF43 have a range of 37400 m, and active-reactive ZOF44 - 47500 m, the APU will be able to use "Peonies" to deliver long-range punches on transport hubs and armored columns near Novoazovsk, Telmanovo and even located in the rear area Starobeshevo. The availability of the APU more than 80 ACS 2C7 puts at risk not only the operation of the NM units of the NPT far from the contact line, but also the lives of the civilian population of almost the entire North Azov region, including the border areas of Russia in the Rostov region. Moreover, the mixed artillery unit from 40 guns (MT-12 "Rapier", "Acacia", "Gvozdika", "Hyacinth-B" and D-30) was deployed in the settlements of Rybatskoye and Melekino (Belosaray Spit). Without a doubt, Kiev holds these formations in the Azov region for artillery preparation before the coming offensive in the direction of the southern villages of the Telmanovsky district, while from the north support will be provided by batteries deployed near Volnovakha.

Information regarding the transfer of assault units that are part of the volunteer regiments and the Armed Forces of Ukraine to the Mariupol Fortified Area (sector “M”) comes from witnesses almost daily. Thus, over the past 2 weeks, increased activity of the formations of the “Azov” regiment was recorded, information about which for unknown reasons did not appear in the operational reports of the defense department of the Donetsk People's Republic. So, from the last days of December to 15 in January 2018 of the year, more than 62 — 4 of armed squadrons in the number of 6 — XNXX — were deployed to the MAZ tent van on the large left-bank training base Azov, on the territory of the former secondary school No. 150 , which indicates preparation for intense clashes with the use of infantry units in the vicinity of Mariupol.

The success of the People’s Militia Corps in repelling such a “throw” of the Ukrainian Armed Forces will depend solely on the correct understanding of the tactical situation in the Mariupol-Volnovakha segment on the left side of the Kalmius River by the command of the DPR army. Reinforcement on the Wavekhivsky direction does not tolerate delays, because quite recently, according to data from eyewitnesses from Kherson region, an enormous KrAZ column of the Ukrainian Armed Forces followed the Nizhny Tagil 14 on semi-trailers on the semi-trailers, and this already says a lot.

Information sources:
https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201801181818-cm6b.htm
https://zn.ua/POLITICS/poroshenko-ozvuchil-usloviya-postavok-protivotankovyh-kompleksov-javelin-v-ukrainu-272400_.html
http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/news/view/127331/
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  1. +7
    19 January 2018 07: 06
    Administration!

    What is this, excuse me, "analytics" doing in the "weapons" section?

    Is it possible to rearrange the text in the correct section?
    1. +9
      19 January 2018 10: 06
      Quote: Cherry Nine

      What is this, excuse me, "analytics" doing in the "weapons" section?

      Where did you see the analytics?
      Another nonsense Damantseva with a bunch of mistakes! No.
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      2. BAI
        0
        19 January 2018 10: 39
        Definitely, the article is not in that section.
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      4. +1
        19 January 2018 15: 01
        Quote: Rokossovsky
        Where did you see the analytics?

        "Analytics" is a section of the site where geopoliticians and strategists live.
    2. +4
      19 January 2018 10: 31
      The material focuses on weapons, so everything is placed in the right section ..
      1. +3
        19 January 2018 18: 50
        Quote: Fulcrum29
        The material focuses on weapons, so everything is placed in the right section ..

        Damantsev! It’s time to put you in the right “section”! With straitjackets and good orderlies!
  2. +4
    19 January 2018 09: 02
    "operational and tactical plans of Ukrainian armored and artillery units." And when will the author master the basics of military art? A unit is a maximum battalion and it cannot rise above tactical plans. Plus some operational areas, theaters of operations. To study, and then write.
    1. +4
      19 January 2018 10: 33
      just bullshit ..
    2. +4
      19 January 2018 11: 06
      I don’t remember that there were regiments in the Armed Forces of Ukraine - maximum battalions, i.e. units, and not even battalions, but battalion and platoons. This is called in them not by battle, but by "operation", for show-offs. The law on the reintegration of Donbass from the Central African Republic (hells) is Ukrainian and from the US CIA and the LEGISLATIVE definition of the Russian Federation as an aggressor country gives the Russian Federation the right to a number of simple answers. The first is the permission to transfer troops across the territory of the Russian Federation both to the LDNR and its already declared allies from the Caucasus. Or, for example, volunteers with equipment from the DPRK. There are very decent guns with calculations and combat An-2 with NURSami. Well drones ukrozakon not written. The LPR may have a great opportunity to open a new operational area in the region, for example, Chertkovo. It is interesting in that the ammunition on the railway is easy to transport from the DPRK. Or ride high-rise buildings near the border, closer to the Village of Lugansk and Happiness. I would try this winter - just a business to give permission. Well, artillery fists are a sacred matter and with proven proven effectiveness, with targeted targets and trained firing calculations. A dill would be good to capture and modernize. A small local raid, such as combat reconnaissance, with deliberate retreat with trophies.
      1. 0
        19 January 2018 12: 06
        you are not relatives with the author?
        and why is it North Korea? To finally quarrel with the States and convince everyone of their complete frostbite?
        1. +1
          19 January 2018 15: 07
          Quote: sd68
          DPRK? To finally quarrel with the States

          Well, it’s even more difficult for Kim to quarrel with the states. But the idea of ​​shitting at the door to the European Union looks very promising, but not everyone hates it yet. Especially the Chinese could appreciate.
          1. 0
            19 January 2018 23: 52
            difficult, but possible.
            in fact, Kim is relying on the fact that despite his shocking statements, he really behaves quite thoughtfully and controlled - now he’s ready to drive him to the Olympics in embrace with the South Koreans, and they were worried that he would simply rip off the Olympics. I admit that he personally can come.
            Does he now need to expose himself as an uncontrolled scumbag, ready to fight anywhere and for what?
      2. 0
        20 January 2018 23: 09
        It is interesting in that ammunition on the railway is easy to transport from the DPRK

        Very easy around the corner right. smile
        Remind you
        Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree providing for the application of sanctions against North Korea in response to Pyongyang conducting nuclear missile tests.
        The decree published on the official portal of legal information was signed in connection with the adoption of UN Security Council resolution 2321 of November 30, 2016. It comes into force from the day of its signing.
        through the banking and financial line, UN member states are required to close all representative offices of their banks in the DPRK within 90 days from the date of the adoption of the resolution. Individuals and organizations are prohibited from financing support for trade with the DPRK, either through state or private channels.

        That the idea of ​​"ammunition from the DPRK" and all kinds of volunteers there is completely crazy. Both physically (distance) and legally (violation of their own sanctions)
        Quote: Mikhail Zubkov
        A dill would be good to capture and modernize. A small local raid, such as combat reconnaissance, with deliberate retreat with trophies.

        teleport ...
  3. +2
    19 January 2018 09: 06
    "Attempts to carry out such local offensive operations by forces of one or two tank companies and infantry platoons." Rave. How can companies and platoons conduct operations? The maximum battle. Storyteller.
    1. +1
      19 January 2018 10: 41
      In the Donbass theater of operations, the mass of operational areas and the anti-tank capabilities of the republican armies differ significantly in each of them. The concepts of "divisions" is a generalization. As for the exact number, it is stated: about 6 platoons ... so calm down, and platoons and companies may well carry out local missions, and be grouped into more numerous formations. Obviously, this is a big secret for you .. laughing
  4. +1
    19 January 2018 10: 06
    They are not suicides. They are well aware that their advance will lead to a blow of the "north wind" (we understand which one). And then the appearance of the RF RV officially. This law is more likely to put pressure on Russia at the international level. Ie the same UN peacekeepers. Since Russia is now an aggressor, then our military will not be among the "blue helmets". So the “blue helmets" can now stand on the border with Russia - in order to protect them from the "aggressor". So there will still be some sanctions against us
    1. +3
      19 January 2018 13: 29
      If you think that military decisions are made in Kiev, then you, as a minimum, are mistaken. In essence, a comprehensive preparation of a military adventure is being carried out, where Khokhlov plays the role of cannon fodder and, for provocation, for the downed Malaysian Boeing. As for the law on reintegration, then this is essentially not only de facto, but also de jure the complete failure of the valtsman and comp. from the Minsk agreements. Without touching on the military aspects, one can see the political goals: The presidential elections are at stake. Regardless of their results, after the next defeat of the high school students, they will be declared illegitimate and Putin’s demand will be resigned. Moreover, a significant part of our comprador offshore aristocracy will be used as a “fifth column”; Western media will cover the military provocation according to the Georgian scenario — it doesn’t matter who first started and who shot at the civilian population — it’s important to blame Russia and Putin for everything, and then, when it won’t be interesting to anyone, where -be somewhere on the 23rd page between advertising diapers and canned cats six months later, print a refutation in small letters. This will be used to disrupt the World Cup in Russia; Ukrainians will suffer heavy losses and suffer a humiliating defeat. It will hardly add to their love for Russia, because both local and NATO media will point a finger in our direction. This will further alienate our peoples. God forbid I make a mistake, but somehow I do not really believe that the states and EU-sheep do not take advantage of the upcoming events (the presidential elections in Russia and the world championship in football), so that once again not to spoil.
      1. +2
        19 January 2018 14: 29
        In Russia there is no revolutionary situation for this to drive. The West does not care who will be in power in Russia and what kind of regime there will be - if only they would sit in their pen and not crawl out of the borders. Squeeze out from Ukraine (including Crimea), Belarus, Moldova, enclose the border with a concrete wall - this is their plan.
        1. +1
          19 January 2018 15: 14
          Quote: Mikhail Filippov
          Squeeze out from Ukraine (including Crimea), Belarus, Moldova, enclose the border with a concrete wall - this is their plan.

          The plan is good, but it is being implemented poorly. A march to Kiev could significantly stir up partners, especially European ones. So, for example, I agree with the patriots of New Russia.
          1. +2
            19 January 2018 15: 18
            I actually talked about the Western plan for Russia. And it was necessary to march on Kiev in 2014, when anarchy reigned in Ukraine.
  5. 0
    19 January 2018 10: 07
    Complete nonsense. I even had some fun. The author came across some outdated information about the movements of the enemy’s airplanes and aircraft, but absolutely, I emphasize, he’s absolutely not versed in elementary military issues. listing all the blunders and absurdities is simply pointless. It is necessary to tie with military analytics.
    1. 0
      19 January 2018 14: 10
      Scha to you for "nonsense" the warning that will slap wassat I already got mine hi
      1. 0
        19 January 2018 23: 56
        and where do they actually send him?
        I would like to clarify laughing
  6. +1
    19 January 2018 10: 13
    I read to ... howitzer MT-12 Rapier ... Everything, you can not read further.
  7. +1
    19 January 2018 10: 19
    What kind of bullshit is written? the author picked up on wikipedia? the author is not at all in the subject of the word at all .... 80 Peonies? And you do not want 6 restored?
  8. +5
    19 January 2018 10: 21
    The parliament adopted the law on the reintegration of Donbass, and our country was designated by the aggressor and, most importantly, the Donbass occupied territories. After that, they can be soaked in all outhouses.
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  10. 0
    19 January 2018 10: 41
    everything is quiet in our South wink Sartan and Pavlopol (in good weather) can be seen from the window, about the base of Azov (1 km from my house), they are all kept in Yuryevka and Urzuf, there is a purely guard company.
    1. +2
      19 January 2018 10: 51
      You are completely confused. The data on 100% are accurate .. confirmed by eyewitnesses .. the transfer was made over the course of several days on Victory Avenue and everyone knows it perfectly .. do not freak out) Regarding silence, I confirm .. but this is a temporary phenomenon ..
      1. +2
        19 January 2018 12: 10
        Take a little. Data is 146% accurate ..
        Personally, Zakharchenko confirmed immediately after he stormed Britain. laughing
  11. +2
    19 January 2018 11: 47
    "Vasily Ivanovich, can you command the army? - I can, Petka, I can. - And with all the armed forces? - And everyone, you just need to learn a little. - And on a global scale? - No, Petka: I don’t know languages."
    This is directly about the author of the article. Why is he, at least, not the head of the State Educational Institution of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation?
  12. 0
    19 January 2018 11: 48
    It is necessary to cut off the entire Donetsk and Lugansk regions, up to the administrative borders. Then all this rubbish will fall into the "boilers", which will never again have to shoot at its own. Well, the option of further advancement to the West is not ruled out.
    1. +2
      19 January 2018 12: 11
      for sure. to storm Britain immediately, as Comrade pointed out Zakharchenko!
  13. +2
    19 January 2018 12: 10
    Bandera welcome to the Donbass grave .. The funeral is already prepared for you.
  14. +17
    19 January 2018 12: 21
    Strange war of the 21st century
    But it can end with a blitzkrieg - there are precedents.
    Only whose?
  15. +1
    19 January 2018 12: 34
    for sure, not an article, but a test for mental sanity.
    complete nonsense, especially in the weapons section.
    It is better to discuss the news, which somehow was not very covered in the media - the DPR after the occupation of the LPR by the DPR troops imposed economic sanctions against the LPR, which resulted in the prohibition of the importation of vodka and cigarettes of local production of the LPR from the LPR. The Donetsk people will not be allowed to poison the Lugansk "Meadow-New"! True, you can import European whiskey.
    All customs posts between the DPR and LPR are on guard of the health of the Donetsk people!

    And if the LPR will be unhappy, start a full-fledged trade war against it immediately !. laughing


    that's where the topic for discussion is, and not that blatant nonsense that the article wassat
    1. +1
      19 January 2018 13: 01
      Swung to the holy !? Well this is someone's money! There you can add to the troubles.
    2. 0
      19 January 2018 22: 04
      Apparently the SBU is paying you, my dear?
      1. 0
        19 January 2018 23: 18
        Of course pays. A bag of money for every comment. And you can’t get anywhere and the toad presses you?
      2. +1
        19 January 2018 23: 47
        Are you talking to me? stupid things.
        it's just that the original article is blatant nonsense, and it’s not clear at all why they put it into the weapons section.
        and you, if you looked at the branches of the armament section, would have found out easily what exactly the SBU "pays" me for, and you would not have written this stupidity.
        Where to get money for criticizing German frigates? winked
    3. +1
      24 January 2018 00: 12
      DNR after the occupation of the LPR by the DPR troops imposed economic sanctions against the LPR


      Bugaga)))
      I, as a resident of Lugansk, and not only, very funny to read such a bootore)))

      Especially about the "occupation"))
  16. +1
    19 January 2018 13: 12
    Tell me, does this author write about risk windows? so that everything hits exactly there, or disa.
    1. 0
      19 January 2018 13: 21
      there is complete nonsense
  17. +1
    19 January 2018 14: 07
    Looked at the author. Got it. Damantsev should use foreign words more carefully, the meanings of which he does not understand. Perhaps instead of the word "carte blanche" he wanted to use the "blitz krieg"? Or a "throw march"? Or "creme brulee"? Or something else? Because "carte blanche" in one of its most famous meanings is used in the sense of "complete freedom of action." The plan of winter freedom of action ... is ... (hereinafter unprintable)
  18. +1
    19 January 2018 17: 44
    Aviation Donbass lacks missiles!
  19. 0
    19 January 2018 18: 24
    Quote: cheap trick
    Tell me, does this author write about risk windows? so that everything hits exactly there, or disa.

    But let them think: is this information or maybe misinformation ...
    1. 0
      19 January 2018 22: 03
      And the fact that the APU knows perfectly well about these "windows of vulnerability" has not you thought? The AFG DRG roam the rear of the LPR-DPR, unfortunately for a long time, and in many cases with impunity, alas. Do not underestimate the enemy.
  20. 0
    19 January 2018 22: 01
    Despite the inadequacy of opponents, the article seems quite professional and very reasoned. The situation is really quite complicated and alarming. It is not so important in which section the article is published, but its content is important. Expressions like "Another nonsense of Damantsev with a bunch of blunders" or "Damantsev! It's time to put you in the right" section "! With straitjackets and good orderlies!" testify only to the unstable mental state of commentators or ... about their close ties with the SBU. In any case, a squeal, saliva and the like, indicates that the article got the commentator to the liver, but the commentator is clearly not enough worthy arguments, counter-facts, logic and an elementary mind.
    1. +1
      19 January 2018 22: 44
      Quote: LeonidL
      It is not so important in which section the article is published.

      You see, many visitors to the site expect that since a separate section has been allocated for ukrasrachi, then this will not happen in other places. The food, you know, is an amateur. Unfortunately, the site moderators do not share this opinion.
      Quote: LeonidL
      unstable mental state of commentators or ... about their close ties with the SBU

      You see, despite the fact that the rhetoric and style (and mental state, yes) of Mr. Damantsev are easy to meet in the lured Russian information wastes, I am quite ready to admit that he sincerely and disinterestedly gushes with such texts. At the same time, to suspect people who do not want to hear anything about Ukraine, and even more so ORDLO, in paying for fat, is also not too smart.
      Quote: LeonidL
      but the commentator is clearly not enough worthy arguments, counter-facts, logic and an elementary mind.

      Or, as an option, I want to put in the face just for the word "Ukraine" in the Russian media. This word is too much there.
      1. 0
        21 January 2018 02: 41
        You have a good name, dearest kindness, "cherry", but the surname is not appropriate "nine", it should probably be "six". Or against the SBU? Save the expression "ORDLO" for internal use in the Nazi-Bandera state of Ukraine, and for normal people closer and more understandable to the LPR-DPR are the people's republics of Donbass.
        1. 0
          21 January 2018 14: 03
          Quote: LeonidL
          Save the expressions "ORDLO" for internal use in the Nazi-Bandera state of Ukraine

          The term ORDLO is used in the text of the Minsk agreements, which, although signed by two “field commanders,” a pensioner from Kiev, the Russian ambassador in Moscow, and a translator from Switzerland, but for some reason are associated, including with the political leadership of Russia.
  21. +1
    20 January 2018 23: 44
    Similar material for 4 years has not decreased. Plans for the winter, summer, spring, New Year and other offensives ..
    Almost tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, the dates flash, analysts predict. However, since the age of 15, there has been no offensive. Even Zakharchenko stopped taking KIE, Washington and London in 2 months ..
    In each article, threats of new boilers and all winds ... and a new date ...
    In each article, one and the same thing is a discussion of the possibility of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Armed Forces + of the entire Armed Forces of the Russian Federation on the border ... I am far from thinking that geniuses are sitting in Kiev, but there are definitely no suicides there. For merchants, life is very valuable (their life).
    Why is it always possible to compare only the “northern wind” ... or is it easier to conclude that the RF Armed Forces + local natives are quantitatively larger and technically more equipped and sleep soundly? Well, you can just give a link to Wiki ... and sleep on ... and not sculpt an article every month.
    So far, as was planned by Gorbulin, Ukraine is acting and is acting. And the West plays as usual for a long time. And Russia usually loses long games (if not in alliance with the West). However, this is not a war between the Russian Federation and the West. These are conflicts of several business entities. So to say "controlled trouble."
    The interests of the Russian people here do not smell (like the Ukrainian).
    1. 0
      21 January 2018 14: 09
      Quote: Antares
      However, since the age of 15, there has been no offensive. Even Zakharchenko stopped taking KIE, Washington and London in 2 months ..

      As a matter of fact, the current situation, by and large, suits everyone. And Poroshenko, and Russia (Putin), and the West.
      Until the alignment in one of the parties changes radically, it will continue. Transnistria and Abkhazia will soon be 30 years old. The population, it is true, is sorry, but someone else's grief.
    2. 0
      29 January 2018 20: 35
      Feels written by a native, or rather a Papuan with natsinezalezhnoy!
  22. +1
    22 January 2018 09: 54
    From the very beginning, it was clear to me that the Minsk Agreement is an anti-Russian and anti-Russian document. As for the possible shelling of the Rostov region of the Russian Federation, which has already been and remained unanswered, if this is repeated again, Russia will need a new president and government capable of defending Russia, and not engage in empty verbiage, like the current ones ... The Israeli government is clearly and toughly reacting and does the right thing for any shelling of its territory ... The Kremlin does not interfere with learning from Telaviv's ability to defend his country and its interests!
  23. +1
    23 January 2018 16: 08
    At all our elite the stolen loot in the West. Putin is no exception. So they conduct a policy neither ours nor yours. Step forward, two back. And how will the hosts look in America or in Europe? They can confiscate all the loot. So let snot on any issue. Here, Stalin resolved the issue directly and without lurking. Yes, he made mistakes, but who is not without sin. They fired at us from a machine gun, and we returned from a gun. And go figure out who is right and who is to blame. Only fist on the table or face. In the West, only power is understood. And stop talking about partners, friendship, human rights and other crap. In war as in war. Whoever gives the first in the face is right. Lavrov must stand up and tell his PARTNERS that all this military fuss can end badly for them. Let them think.
  24. 0
    29 January 2018 20: 29
    Everything is quite natural: the dill neo-Nazis are preparing under the guidance of US instructors and staffing NATO countries for a full-scale war. If at least one dill shell hits the territory of Russia, and this is quite possible, it is necessary to spit on what the United States and its NATO allies say - to smash the neo-Nazis with all their might.
  25. 0
    12 February 2018 10: 47
    I read and rzhu. one nonsense. twisted tangled but just a quilted jacket nature ... bark and further and the loop is delayed.
  26. 0
    23 February 2018 13: 50
    So what to do? Immediately strangle the “heroes” on Khreshchatyk? A fight is about to begin! .. Beat First!