Military Review

2017 year: adopted

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Fulfilling the requirements of the current State Armaments Program, the defense industry is creating new models of one kind or another. The Ministry of Defense, in turn, takes them into service and orders mass production. In the outgoing 2017 year, the fleet of vehicles and arsenals of weapons of the Russian army were replenished with several new models. Consider what was put into service this year.


News for the Army

Perhaps the main novelty entering the service of the ground forces may be considered a combat support vehicle tanks BMPT "Terminator". At the same time, it should be noted that this model of military equipment is not completely new. The first version of "Terminator" appeared at the beginning of the last decade, and several years ago its improved modification was introduced. However, until recently, such equipment was not of interest to the Russian armed forces. For a number of reasons, the command did not want to put such equipment into service and purchase serial armored vehicles.


Combat vehicles support tanks BMPT "Terminator". Photo NPK "Uralvagonzavod" / uvz.ru


In the summer of this year, it became known that the BMPTs were sent to Syria for verification in the context of a real local conflict. As far as we know, an armored vehicle with a set of rocket and barrel weapons showed itself well on the battlefield and confirmed its potential in the context of modern conflicts of low intensity. Apparently, these events influenced the opinion of Russian military leaders.

In mid-June 2017, there were reports of a possible resumption of the production of BMPT, and this time in the interests of the Russian army. Then it was reported that these machines will be based on the chassis of the T-90 tanks and, possibly, be equipped with new fire control devices. A little later, during the international military-technical forum "Army-2017", this information was confirmed.

According to official statements, several agreements were signed between the Ministry of Defense and the Uralvagonzavod Corporation at the forum. The theme of one of these contracts was the mass production of new “Terminators” for the Russian army. The quantity of the ordered equipment and the timing of its delivery, however, were not specified.

According to unconfirmed reports, the construction of new BMPT starts next year. There is reason to believe that at the same time, with the advent of a contract for mass production, an order was issued to adopt such machines for arming the ground forces.

Also important new products for the ground forces were new tanks, which are modernized versions of existing combat vehicles. This year the army adopted and ordered new T-72B3 type tanks arr. 2016 and T-90M. To date, the armed forces managed to get the first mass-produced vehicles of the first type. The delivery of the second will begin in the foreseeable future.

The new modification of the T-72B3 tank differs from its predecessors by improved protection and armament, as well as a revised powerplant. The own armor of such a tank is complemented by the “Relic” dynamic protection complex. Used engine B-92C2F, supplemented by an automatic transmission. In the complex of monitoring tools introduced a rear view camera, the signal of which is displayed on the monitor in the control compartment. The combat effectiveness of the tank is enhanced by the 2-46-5-01 cannon and improved fire control systems.

Deliveries of T-72B3 tanks in the 2016 modification were launched at the beginning of the current year. In the shortest possible time, the industry transferred to the troops a significant number of updated combat vehicles, rebuilt from the equipment of combatant units. 9 May 2017, the first public demonstration of such equipment was held as part of the parade on Red Square.


Tank T-90M. Photo Decoder / otvaga2004.mybb.ru


At the beginning of autumn, for the first time, the Ministry of Defense publicly showed the T-90М tank, which was the result of Proryv-3 development work. This project provides for the replacement of a standard T-90 engine with a B-92C2F high-power engine. The main engine and generator are complemented by an auxiliary power unit. Own armor of the hull and turret are covered with dynamic protection "Relic" and lattice screens. Along the perimeter of the tower is proposed to mount a mesh screen with reinforcements at the intersections of the filaments. There is information about the possibility of using active protection.

The contract for the serial modernization of existing tanks for the T-90M project was signed at the end of this summer. According to known data, a similar refinement will 400 combat vehicles. This will significantly improve the fleet of armored vehicles and increase the combat capability of the ground forces.

Novelties for aerospace forces

In mid-November, the 344th Army Center aviation two of the latest Mi-28UB attack helicopters arrived. Earlier, representatives of the military department adopted this technique at the Rostvertol manufacturing plant. Soon, several of the following new model combat vehicles were handed over to the aerospace forces. In the foreseeable future, the aviation industry will continue to build the Mi-28UB, with the result that the armed forces will receive some new opportunities.

The Mi-28UB attack helicopter is an updated version of the Mi-28Н serial. As follows from the letters indicated in the name of the new modification, this helicopter is combat training and can be used both for destroying targets and for training pilots. The main innovation of the Mi-XNUMHUB project is to use two sets of controls placed in both cabins. Technical and combat characteristics of the modified machine remain at the level of previous modifications.

The presence of two sets of controls, primarily due to the need to train pilots. In this case, one of the cabins is intended for the trained pilot, while the second is the instructor. At the same time, despite such opportunities, the helicopter retains the ability to solve combat missions, and receives some new capabilities. Mi-XNUMHUB differs from all previous modifications of the family of increased combat survivability. In the event of the defeat of the pilot commander, the navigator-operator can take over the control of the machine.

Another new product in the field of combat aviation should be a multi-purpose fighter MiG-35. At the beginning of 2017, the flight tests of this car started, which took several months. The plane received high marks from specialists and military foreign countries. In particular, it became aware of interest, which in the future could result in a number of export contracts. Nevertheless, the prospects for the MiG-35 in the context of the rearmament of the Russian Aerospace Forces are still not completely clear.


Fighter MiG-35. Photo KLA / uacrussia.ru/


Throughout the 2017 year, officials have repeatedly talked about the great prospects of the MiG-35 fighter and its early adoption. However, the year is coming to an end, and the contract for the mass production of equipment and the order for its adoption into service have not yet appeared. It is possible that such documents will be signed, according to the old tradition, “under the Christmas tree”, but their appearance may shift next year.

New to the Navy fleet

As part of the current state armaments program, the Russian Navy regularly receives new warships, boats and submarines, as well as support vessels. The outgoing 2017 year was no exception. The fleet received 10 warships and boats, as well as 13 ships. In the future, the supply of new ships will continue, so that the Navy will be able to upgrade and increase its combat capability.

It should be noted that most of the new ships and vessels transferred to the navy this year are not new in the full sense. The shipbuilding industry continued to fulfill existing orders received in the recent past. For example, on December 25, the fleet was handed over to the frigate of the 11356 project “Admiral Makarov”, which is the third ship of its type. The share of leading ships opening new series this year was not too large. However, they were also present in the list of new supplies.

On July 20, a solemn ceremony was held, during which the leading corvette of the 20380 project - “Perfect” was accepted into the fleet's combat personnel. This ship, capable of patrolling and fighting surface or underwater targets, was built from 2006 onwards. Due to certain problems, the construction was delayed, and the launching took place only in the late spring of the 2015 of the year. At the start of the 2017, the “Perfect” went into sea trials, which took several months. In the middle of summer, the ship entered the Pacific Fleet.

The 105-meter ship with a displacement of 2220 T is equipped with four diesel engines and two propellers, with which it can reach speeds up to 27 knots. "Perfect" carries two launchers with four anti-ship missiles X-35 "Uranus" on each. For the destruction of underwater targets, the corvette carries the package-NK torpedoes. The ship is also equipped with artillery and anti-aircraft guns, anti-aircraft missiles and other systems. There is the possibility of carrying a helicopter.

In early October, the newest frigate "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov" (project 22350) went to the Northern Fleet to complete the final stage of state tests. After all the planned inspections, which should have taken several months, the ship will have to officially enter the combat strength of the navy. For a number of reasons, the construction of Admiral Gorshkov, which started back in 2006, took a lot of time and was noticeably delayed. However, after all problems have been solved, the ship is almost ready for service.

It was expected that the delivery of the ship will take place in the last days of December, but just yesterday it became known that it would be handed over to the fleet only next year. Such a postponement of dates is connected with the need to work out some issues and the customer’s desire to immediately accept the ship into the Navy's combat strength, bypassing the trial operation phase.

In the near future, tests of the second ship of the 22350 project will begin. In total, it is planned to build eight such frigates. Ships with a full displacement of 5400 t and a length of 135 m are proposed to be equipped with a combined power plant with diesel and gas turbine engines. With their help, he will be able to reach speeds up to 30 nodes. The basis of the 22350 frigate armament complex is universal launchers capable of carrying 16 Onyx and Caliber missiles. It also uses rocket and artillery anti-aircraft weapons, torpedoes, etc.


Frigate "Admiral Gorshkov". Photo of Wikimedia Commons


Just the other day, a ceremony of acceptance of another warship may take place, which also had to wait for many years. The large landing ship of the 11711 project “Ivan Gren” was laid back in the 2004 year, and construction was completed only in the 2015. To date, the ship was brought to the stage of state tests. According to the latest reports, this phase of inspections will be completed as soon as possible. The acceptance certificate is scheduled to be signed in the last days of December.

The Ivan Gren has a full displacement of 5000 tons and a length of 120 meters. A ship with a diesel power unit is capable of accelerating to 18 units. It is equipped with artillery guns and multiple rocket launchers, and is also capable of carrying helicopters. In the holds of the ship can be transported battalion of marines with a particular technique. The hull of the ship is equipped with a nasal ramp for disembarking floating equipment at a distance from the coast or the withdrawal of non-floating machines on a suitable coast.

On the eve of 2018

This year, the industry completed the development of a number of projects for advanced weapons and military equipment, and also received several orders for the mass production of such samples. In addition, some large volume contracts were completed. All this, among other things, led to the entry into service of new types of equipment, as well as to the beginning of the service of modern ships.

A number of models adopted for service this year have already entered mass production. Others, in turn, will begin to be produced only in the near future, and will go to the troops no earlier than the middle or end of 2018. In the case of shipbuilding in the outgoing year, the results of the work of the last few years were obtained, and the ships that are to begin service in the 2018 year are already at one stage or another. In other areas, the situation is simpler - the finished equipment arrives to the customer much faster.

The process of updating the material part of the armed forces continues. Produced production samples of different classes and types, as well as developing and adopting new ones. It should be expected that simultaneously with full-scale mass production of equipment and weapons, entered service in 2017 year, in the next 2018-m completely new models will be accepted for supply. This process, which has a beneficial effect on the state and capabilities of the army, will continue in the future without interruption.


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  1. alex-cn
    alex-cn 26 December 2017 07: 24 New
    +5
    Much nicer to read "entered the army" than "Adopted"
    1. You Vlad
      You Vlad 26 December 2017 09: 22 New
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      Quote: alex-cn
      Much nicer to read "entered the army" than "Adopted"

      Pleasant to you: In the Strategic Missile Forces, 3 missile regiments completed the rearmament of modern mobile-based Yars systems.
      This year the strategic aviation aviation forces were replenished with 3 modernized airplanes. The Ground Forces formed a command of the army, 18 formations and military units. The troops received 2 thousand 55 new and modernized weapons, which were re-equipped with 3 formations and 11 military units. -Space forces formed the military transport aviation division and the special aviation division. Received 191 modern aircraft and helicopters, 143 units of air defense and missile defense weapons. Since December, the Unified Space System took up pilot combat duty. The Navy includes 10 ships and combat boats, 13 support vessels, four Bal coastal missile systems and the Bastion.
      Maritime aviation has replenished with 15 modern aircraft and helicopters. The 14th Army Corps was deployed in the Northern Fleet. Separate air assault and repair and restoration battalions were formed in the Airborne Forces.
      Delivered 184 new armored combat vehicles and self-propelled guns, 199 unmanned aerial vehicles.
      1. Chertt
        Chertt 26 December 2017 09: 39 New
        13
        You Vlad Your "final report". more fully shows the process of receipt of new and modernized weapons in the RF Armed Forces in 2017 than in the author of the article. thank hi
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 26 December 2017 09: 42 New
          +3
          Please, it’s rather Shoigu final report repeat
          And so the article is typical for whiners!
        2. Sergey53
          Sergey53 26 December 2017 12: 28 New
          0
          Chertt The word patterns mislead everyone, don't you find?
        3. tol100v
          tol100v 26 December 2017 20: 37 New
          0
          Quote: Chertt
          You Vlad Your "final report". more fully shows the process of receipt of new and modernized weapons in the RF Armed Forces in 2017 than in the author of the article. thank hi

          And I also want that our other sworn partners would know less about other innovations of our defense industry! And sometimes you can read the Resident’s report for the CIA on VO!
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 31 December 2017 01: 30 New
            +1
            Quote: Tol100v
            Quote: Chertt
            You Vlad Your "final report". more fully shows the process of receipt of new and modernized weapons in the RF Armed Forces in 2017 than in the author of the article. thank hi

            And I also want that our other sworn partners would know less about other innovations of our defense industry! And sometimes you can read the Resident’s report for the CIA on VO!

            so here it’s just a hodgepodge from several sources, which are listed immediately under the article .... and it is unlikely that someone of them revealed a secret inu !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing boom to hope that the secret part would horrify our "partners" an order of magnitude stronger !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughing
      2. viktorch
        viktorch 26 December 2017 09: 50 New
        +3
        the article with your comment must be swapped
      3. Sergey53
        Sergey53 26 December 2017 12: 02 New
        +2
        I doubt that the troops received 2 thousand 55 new and modernized weapons. From the power of 3,4 or 5 can still be believed but so much? Here you can believe the new or modernized "units" of weapons. Samples and units are two significantly larger differences.
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 26 December 2017 13: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: Sergey53
          I doubt

          Hesitate hi
      4. Mikhail Zubkov
        Mikhail Zubkov 26 December 2017 21: 22 New
        +1
        I'm not a whiner, but a swindler. Army management is ... how many officers? senior 100, middle 100, younger 100? + 100 security posts? In 1941-42 such administrations were created in a month - and thrown into battle a month later. You began to form artillery of this “army” from cash, two ELITE combatant divisions of constant readiness UNDER MOSCOW in fact a month ago, after at least a YEAR of “formation of control”. (I continue to express myself unprintable, in single letters.) The artillery is half towed by the old models, "modernized" with new sights and other paraphernalia, m. new "armored" tractor tractors, and new automotive equipment. This is at a time when a historical parallel with the Red Army must be drawn by comparing the state of the Ground Forces of the RF Armed Forces with the Red Army of the USSR at the end of 1940! What praise the country, Messrs. Generals ?! The ability to "form control"? 10 ships and battle boats they took! (letters) In 2017, the Americans accepted 8 large warships, including an aircraft carrier, a nuclear submarine, powerful and latest frigates and destroyers, the British received an aircraft carrier, the Poles celebrated some RTOs, the Germans also, the Baltic states had something patrol and depicted anti-submarine ... (letters) You, Messrs. Generals, are you going to repeat 1941 again? at such a pace of rearmament, formation and deployment? Their minimum THREE must be increased! For the Arctic, for the Crimea and for Syria, of course, we honor you sincerely, but on the Western and Eastern fronts we see HOLES and a lack of positive. YOUR ENEMY BEGAN TO BE AWAY.
      5. silver_roman
        silver_roman 29 December 2017 10: 50 New
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        Received 191 modern aircraft and helicopter

        No offense, but how can such phrases be enraged here.
        Type of weapons received 100500 aircraft of the 5th generation Su-57 ... fellow ...... III Yak-130. In fact, it turns out that 100499 Yak-130s and 1 Su-57 were adopted negative .
        All of these statistics and reports from the press are complete x .... nya.
        ps Happy Comrades
  2. Pacifist
    Pacifist 26 December 2017 08: 32 New
    +2
    Gorshkov will not be accepted this year. Again spoiled not brought to mind Polement. I won’t know what the hell so many problems with him, it’s like they don’t work, but they don’t have to finish it. I believe they will, but the sea is lost in time.
    1. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 26 December 2017 18: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: Pacifist
      Gorshkov will not be accepted this year. Again spoiled not brought to mind Polement. I won’t know what the hell so many problems with him, it’s like they don’t work, but they don’t have to finish it. I believe they will, but the sea is lost in time.

      So you, it’s, like, facts, analysis, links, otherwise zvizdobol, and per.dohnom.
  3. Sergey53
    Sergey53 26 December 2017 12: 16 New
    +1
    For a number of reasons, the "command" did not want to put such equipment into service. This is about BMPT, and in the 90 years did not pay attention to the development and use of drones in the Armed Forces of the USSR and the Russian Federation. I think someone else will remember something on this subject. A straightforward question arises. WHERE DOES IT SEE AT ALL? AND DO YOU LOOK AT ALL?
    1. ZVO
      ZVO 26 December 2017 13: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Sergey53
      A straightforward question arises. WHERE DOES IT SEE AT ALL? AND DO YOU LOOK AT ALL?


      Where? In his youth ...
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 26 December 2017 14: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: Sergey53
      For a number of reasons, the "command" did not want to put such equipment into service. This is about BMPT
      WHERE DOES IT LOOK AT ALL? AND DO YOU LOOK AT ALL?

      Just as he looks.
      Unfortunately, they were still killed, and absolutely unnecessary in the troops nedotanki will be purchased.
      Shoigu is not Serdyukov, he is afraid of messing with the “mastering GOZ”.
      1. Sergey53
        Sergey53 26 December 2017 14: 26 New
        +1
        In general, this machine is best suited for urban combat. And to call it better, a fire support combat vehicle. For what it was created. And we have enough tanks in assortment.
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 26 December 2017 14: 58 New
          +1
          Quote: Sergey53
          In general, this machine is best suited for urban combat.

          Best suited for urban combat? Then why, "according to the experience of Syria," have we never observed the use of BMP-2 as a means of fire support, but does the network have a bunch of frames with much less secure 2C1 direct fire?
          Why do we need this nedotank with two 30-mm guns, if it turns out that a larger caliber is needed on the contrary, and there are 2C3 direct-shot frames on the Web?

          The answer is simple to disgrace: they forced the MO to buy the absolutely unnecessary Tympinators.
          1. garri-lin
            garri-lin 26 December 2017 15: 27 New
            0
            There was an article about the modernization of carnations. That would be thought of in an initiative manner on their basis BMPTiP try to build.
          2. Herman 4223
            Herman 4223 27 December 2017 22: 05 New
            +4
            Someone may not need it, but let it be with us. This is a tank for suppressing enemy manpower, the main and most massive target on the battlefield. Firing infantry from a 125mm gun is not always convenient or expedient, another thing is a light automatic cannon, supplemented by automatic grenade launchers for mounted shooting, tank armor for working at the forefront along with tanks and means of detecting manpower. The machine wasn’t fools, it makes sense. The only negative that I can note is the lack of active defense, but I hope I'm mistaken and the modified machine will go to the troops.
          3. Metlik
            Metlik 31 December 2017 17: 24 New
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            Quote: Spade
            Then why, "according to the experience of Syria," have we never observed the use of BMP-2 as a means of fire support, but does the network have a bunch of frames with much less secure 2C1 direct fire?

            Shilka was used all the time in cities.
            In general, I think that the terminator needs minimal weapons. Its main task is to cause fire on yourself, detect targets, transmit information to others and survive after that.
          4. badens1111
            badens1111 31 December 2017 17: 34 New
            +2
            Quote: Spade
            Why do we need this nedotank with two 30-mm guns, if it turns out that a larger caliber is needed on the contrary, and there are 2C3 direct-shot frames on the Web?

            Colleague, you again sat down in the wrong place.
            Remember Grozny 95. Didn’t you see Shilka’s work when the same tank couldn’t hit the militants in the building because of the elevation angle of the gun that didn’t allow him to reach the enemy? all the time is lost, and this is very close.
            Have you forgotten how many tanks you lost in the city for one reason, lack of infantry and the inability to hit targets on the upper floors, with the inability to use self-propelled guns?
            BMPT has its own niche and I, being a battalion commander of TB or small and medium business, would prefer to have these machines at my disposal, rather than rely only on artillery.
  4. Romka47
    Romka47 26 December 2017 12: 39 New
    +4
    Yes, we normally move, build slowly and build well.
  5. sd68
    sd68 26 December 2017 12: 51 New
    +6
    Frigate "Admiral Groshkov". Wikimedia Commons Photos
    laughing

    Ivan Gren. The wonders of design. lol
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin 26 December 2017 15: 23 New
      +3
      This is a secret nano cable made from monomecular graphene. After the announcement of combat anxiety dissolves in the air. After the end of the alarm, it again materializes in the old place. At the same time lubricates the bore when shooting.
      1. Sergey Cojocari
        Sergey Cojocari 26 December 2017 20: 01 New
        +2
        I’ve never been a sailor, but I think on command, “For battle,” the trainers will fall ...
        1. sd68
          sd68 26 December 2017 20: 10 New
          +1
          And at the end of the call, they themselves go to bed :)
  6. Some kind of compote
    Some kind of compote 26 December 2017 13: 45 New
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    Interesting review
    So that they would do without Soviet backlogs - only God knows
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 26 December 2017 20: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: Some Compote
      So that they would do without Soviet backlogs - only God knows

      If there were no Soviet “backlogs”, then there would have been nothing to do, and no one! Everyone would have grabbed under themselves "minke whales", but !, they were about _ _ _ _ or Our terrible 90s! And now it's late! Even Borjomi will not help!
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 31 December 2017 01: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Tol100v
        Quote: Some Compote
        So that they would do without Soviet backlogs - only God knows

        If there were no Soviet “backlogs”, then there would have been nothing to do, and no one! Everyone would have grabbed under themselves "minke whales", but !, they were about _ _ _ _ or Our terrible 90s! And now it's late! Even Borjomi will not help!

        if, yes if only ... the USSR was not organized out of thin air !!! strange here some historians live !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 31 December 2017 01: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Some Compote
      Interesting review
      So that they would do without Soviet backlogs - only God knows

      recourse recourse recourse and Nitsche that the Soviet Union-is "hurt" Russia ???
  7. Alexander Russian
    Alexander Russian 26 December 2017 14: 03 New
    +2
    Two helicopters, three ships. Here is the summary of the article. Thanks to the author.
  8. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 26 December 2017 14: 36 New
    +2
    Slowly in some moments, but confidently go forward!
  9. Monarchist
    Monarchist 26 December 2017 16: 32 New
    +2
    “universal launchers capable of carrying 16 onyx and caliber missiles are one of two things: 1) the author has no idea what he writes:“ Onyx missiles are an export-simplified version of the caliber ”2 technical error: read : "capable of carrying 16 onyx" OR "caliber rockets
    The author says: “the head corvette of project 20380 is“ guarding ”, and how many messages flickered that there are already 20380 corvettes or, according to the old Soviet classification,“ watch ship ”, which means“ Guarding ”is no longer“ head ”.
    Transmitted: "Admiral Makarov" "is the third ship of its type" and the remaining "admirals" will be completed?
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  11. NEXUS
    NEXUS 26 December 2017 20: 07 New
    +2
    In fact, most of the "new" weapons delivered to the troops can be safely called modernized, not new. As recently as 2014, Mr. Rogozin hit his chest with his heels and said that the first destroyer Leader was laid in 18 ... judging by the new weapons program, the Leader we will not see soon. Domestic gas turbines where for our frigates and corvettes? The frigates of project 11356 cannot be transferred to the fleet. There are a lot of questions on the frigates of project 22350 ...
    On the land component. Our MO bought T-90M only 31 pieces ... besides the robotic component where? The same Uranus-9, Platform-M ... how many of them were purchased for our army, as well as new UAVs.
    According to the Strategic Missile Forces ... If there is less information on Sarmatia, then what about Rubezh (Vanguard) and ICBMs?
    1. badens1111
      badens1111 31 December 2017 17: 38 New
      0
      Quote: NEXUS
      Not even further than in 2014, Mr. Rogozin

      Wait ... Rogozin is guilty? And why not the so-called effective managers, coupled with the nouveau riche who seized the military-industrial complex, who, A-break the sky-high price, B-lose personnel,
      B-just doing sabotage.
      C plus a question for the Prime Minister, but what was he doing at that time? Did you play iPhone?
      What did Siluanov do with Ulyukaev and Nabiullina? And ... they targeted inflation and pulled money out of US coats .. and to blame .. Rogozin ..
  12. Oleg Petrov
    Oleg Petrov 27 December 2017 22: 08 New
    0
    On 16 cruise missiles ..... yes .. ahh .. Out full - you can say not frigates, but doves of the world, BDK - speed of 18 knots, what is needed? About Armata and the advertised T-50 (probably it is already outdated) and generally not worth talking about (why talk about what is not)
  13. Oleg Petrov
    Oleg Petrov 27 December 2017 22: 10 New
    0
    Probably soon a film about where the money goes will come out (like He’s not Dimon)
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 31 December 2017 01: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: Oleg Petrov
      Probably soon a film about where the money goes will come out (like He’s not Dimon)

      recourse recourse you believe in noodles about sneakers less !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
  14. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 28 December 2017 05: 35 New
    +5
    I recall that two years ago one of Shoigu's deputies promised "the first 200 Armats in the armored forces by the end of 2017." Does anyone else remember that? There is confidence that we will not see the next. Apparently, there were a lot of jambs during trial operation. Or with money full of seams. Yes, and about the "Boomerang" is already starting to forget ((
    But this is not the worst. Here with the construction of ships real. On boats you can only push with the "Georgians". Happen to a serious mess and we really have nothing to oppose to the “partners”. And how are they building? Some samples (non-aircraft carriers have never been) more than 10 years and surrender with a bunch of imperfections, and most importantly, there are justifiers for such a madhouse! Although, how can one justify overt incompetence and theft? With the fleet, sorrow is complete, in short. I hope that in 2018 this bad JCC will still be handed over to Rostec, maybe at least things will go faster.
    1. chingachguc
      chingachguc 31 March 2018 13: 51 New
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      In our country, only Pella, Zelenodolsky Plant and Sevmash, left the "workers", alas. The Amur shipyard has been building one snuffled corvette for 10 years ... the next one is only 6 years old. Progress, however.
  15. looker-on
    looker-on 28 December 2017 18: 19 New
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    Quote: Mikhail Zubkov
    I'm not a whiner, but a swindler. Army management is ... how many officers? senior 100, middle 100, younger 100? + 100 security posts? In 1941-42 such administrations were created in a month - and thrown into battle a month later. You began to form artillery of this “army” from cash, two ELITE combatant divisions of constant readiness UNDER MOSCOW in fact a month ago, after at least a YEAR of “formation of control”. (I continue to express myself unprintable, in single letters.) The artillery is half towed by the old models, "modernized" with new sights and other paraphernalia, m. new "armored" tractor tractors, and new automotive equipment. This is at a time when a historical parallel with the Red Army must be drawn by comparing the state of the Ground Forces of the RF Armed Forces with the Red Army of the USSR at the end of 1940! What praise the country, Messrs. Generals ?! The ability to "form control"? 10 ships and battle boats they took! (letters) In 2017, the Americans accepted 8 large warships, including an aircraft carrier, a nuclear submarine, powerful and latest frigates and destroyers, the British received an aircraft carrier, the Poles celebrated some RTOs, the Germans also, the Baltic states had something patrol and depicted anti-submarine ... (letters) You, Messrs. Generals, are you going to repeat 1941 again? at such a pace of rearmament, formation and deployment? Their minimum THREE must be increased! For the Arctic, for the Crimea and for Syria, of course, we honor you sincerely, but on the Western and Eastern fronts we see HOLES and a lack of positive. YOUR ENEMY BEGAN TO BE AWAY.


    You are just a dreamer, I'm sorry. For what money do you want to buy something more? Don't want to make a donation like you did at BMM? So that they wrote on T-14: "This tank gave Mikhail Zubkov the Motherland"

    Screaming from the couch: giving tanks and planes is very cool, of course
  16. Lehsus75
    Lehsus75 28 December 2017 21: 45 New
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    Our stupid people in uniform are always against a whole new cockerel to rip off epaulettes stick back and crank downs
  17. tchoni
    tchoni 29 December 2017 11: 34 New
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    Mdya ... and how much noise was there ... "Armata", "Kurgan", frigates 22356 .... Su57 (aka T50) ... but, the result shows the real possibilities of industry and the budget ..
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  18. chingachguc
    chingachguc 31 March 2018 13: 45 New
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    our warships are built throughout the life of a generation ((