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The aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth: the largest ship in the history of the British fleet

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HMS aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth (R08) is the lead in a series of two Queen Elizabeth class ships, which are being built for the British Navy. December 7, 2017 at the Royal Naval Naval Base fleet (KVMF) Portsmouth hosted the ceremony of incorporating the new HMS Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier into the British fleet. A British naval flag was hoisted on an aircraft carrier.


Queen Elizabeth II took part in the solemn ceremony, who expressed confidence that the aircraft carrier would be evidence of British power at sea for the coming decades, as well as Princess Anna. According to Gavin Williamson, the Secretary of Defense of the United Kingdom, “the new aircraft carrier is the personification of British design and functionality that underlies the efforts to build armed forces that meet the requirements of the future.” It should be noted that the ship was introduced into the KWMF after the completion of the second stage of the sea tests, which were carried out off the coast of southern England from September 2017.

The second carrier of the HMS series "Prince of Wales" (R09) is also close to delivery. 8 September 2017 of the shipbuilding company Babcock Marine, located in Rosaite (Scotland), took place the official ceremony of baptism being built there in the dry dock of the British aircraft carrier "Prince of Wales". The ceremony was attended by the current Prince of Wales, Charles, and his wife, Duchess of Cornwall, Camilla, acted as the “godmother” of the new warship, smashing a bottle of Laphroaig 10-year-old whiskey on the body of the aircraft carrier.

The aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth

Contrary to popular belief, the new British aircraft carrier received not in honor of the now reigning Queen Elizabeth II, but in honor of her distant predecessor - the Queen of England and Ireland Elizabeth I, who ruled XDUMX-1558 - the last of the Tudors dynasty. It was during the years of her rule that England became the leading maritime power, and therefore the world power. The British themselves call the era of Elizabeth I the “golden age”. Not only because she successfully fought with external and internal enemies, but also because during the years of her rule art and science flourished. It was the time of Christopher Marlowe, William Shakespeare and Francis Bacon. Therefore, the name Queen Elizabeth was given the most modern British aircraft carrier deservedly so.

Today, the HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08) aircraft carrier is the largest ship in the Royal Navy history its existence and the largest warship ever built in the country, its full displacement is 70 600 tons. This aircraft carrier, like its Prince of Wales sistership under construction, is three times larger than its predecessors, the British Invincible type aircraft carriers, and is comparable in size to the American aircraft carrier Nimitz or the French Charles de Gaulle. Carriers cost Britain a lot of money, if in 2007 the construction of two warships was estimated at 3,9 billion pounds, then after another revision of the contract in 2013, it was already 6,2 billion pounds (about 8,3 billion US dollars). At the same time, after commissioning of the Prince of Wales aircraft carrier, it is possible that it will become the largest KVMF warship ever, since due to some changes and improvements made to the project, its full displacement may exceed 3000 tons of aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth . The launch of the Prince of Wales is scheduled for 2019 year.

History of the construction of the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth

The idea to replenish the composition of KVMF large aircraft carriers originated in the UK at the turn of the XXI century. At the beginning of 2003, the Ministry of Defense of the country decided on a contractor for the construction of advanced warships - BAE Systems Corporation. The sketch project was executed by the British branch of the French company Thales. This project has already demonstrated that future ships are different from existing aircraft carriers — by the presence of not one, but two “islands” in the superstructure. The ship control services are located in the bow superstructure; in the aft superstructure there are aircraft and helicopter flight control services.

The aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth in the dock

For the first time, Des Brown, who was then Minister of Defense at the time, announced an order for the construction of two aircraft carriers, announced 25 on July 2017. The Queen Elizabeth class warships were designed to replace the Invincible class British light aircraft carriers (in 1980 - 2014, three ships of this class served in the KVMF). The contract for the construction of new aircraft carriers was signed on 3 on July 2008, with a specially created European consortium of Aircraft Carrier Alliance (ACA).

The construction of the lead aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth was carried out from 2009 to 2017 by the ACA consortium at the Babcock Marine shipyard (the former Rosyth Dockyard naval shipyard, which was privatized in 1997), located in the Scottish city of Rosyth. The Aircraft Carrier Alliance includes the British subsidiary of the French Thales Group (designer) and the British companies BAE Systems Surface Ships, A&P Group and Cammell Laird. It was the British consortium members who were responsible for the production of large-block hull sections, from which the aircraft carrier was later assembled, which was in the dry construction dock.

The process of creating a new aircraft carrier was divided into the construction of individual units weighing up to 11 thousands of tons, which were assembled at various shipyards in the UK. Later, the assembled blocks were delivered to the Scottish Rosyth, where they were assembled into a single unit. 4 July 2014, the ceremony of the baptism of the new ship. It was attended by Queen Elizabeth II, who made the "godmother" of the new British aircraft carrier. At a signal from the Queen of Great Britain a bottle of Bowmore whiskey was smashed aboard the ship.

The aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth

For the United Kingdom Department of Defense, the Royal Navy, and BAE Systems, Babcock, Thales UK, directly involved in building the ship, the launch of the first aircraft carrier of the series marked the end of a significant phase of work. Earlier, the British government has already delayed the development of the program for two years, which ultimately led only to its appreciation. The aircraft carrier construction program was even tried to be canceled altogether, the issue of selling them to third countries was considered, the decision was changed twice on which models of the F-35 aircraft would have to be based on aircraft carriers. All this delayed the process of building the first ship.

17 July 2014, the aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth (R08) was launched from the dry dock and launched. 26 June 2017, the ship first set sail for sea trials. 16 August 2017, the aircraft carrier arrived at its permanent base - the main naval base of the KWMF, Portsmouth. Already in July, tests began with the participation of helicopters, the second phase of the test data was scheduled for December 2017 of the year. The first tests of deck F-35B aircraft from the aircraft carrier are scheduled to begin at the end of 2018, they will be held off the coast of the United States. Achievement by the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth and its airline group of initial combat readiness is expected in 2021, and full combat readiness is expected not earlier than 2023 of the year.

Design features of the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth


The development of mechanical designs of a modern British aircraft carrier was fully automated. Computer simulation tools were specially created by QinetiQ. The design of the ship's hull was carried out on the basis of the required 50-year service life. A feature of the hull of the new aircraft carrier was the presence of a springboard used for aircraft with a short takeoff and landing. The presence of the springboard and the absence of accelerating catapults makes the ship the only Russian heavy aircraft carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov. The hull of the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth has 9 decks, not counting flight. The flight deck of the ship provides for the simultaneous take-off and landing of aircraft, located in front of the springboard and has an elevation angle of 13 °.

The aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth

In contrast to the overwhelming majority of the traditional aircraft carriers, the Queen Elizabeth received two small superstructures. In the anterior are the premises of the ship management services, and in the rear - the flight control services of the aircraft carrier's air group. The advantage of this ship architecture is the increase in deck space, a more flexible distribution of space on the lower decks and a decrease in turbulent air flow, which may interfere with flying. The location of the services responsible for managing the flights of the air group in the rear part of the deck seems to be preferable, as it allows better control of such critical phases of the flight, as the approach and landing on board the aircraft carrier.

Like any other modern aircraft carrier, the British Queen Elizabeth is a real floating city, on board of which there is even a cinema and a large gym. There are also 4 large dining areas on board, which employ 67 catering workers. They are able to service up to 960 people in one hour. There is also a hospital designed for 8 beds (up to 8 serious bedridden patients), its own operating room and dental room, and its 11 medical staff services it. 470 ship cabins can accommodate 1600 people (by the number of beds), including 250 marines.

The power plant of the ship is integrated into an integrated electric propulsion system (Integrated Electric Propulsion - IEP). It includes two powerful Rolls-Royce Marine MT30 gas turbines with a capacity of 36 MW each (the same GTU installed on the latest American squadron type Zumwalt) and four Finnish-made Wartsila 38 diesel generators with a total power of 40 MW. The engines operate on generators, which provide electricity to the overall low-voltage network of the aircraft carrier and feed, among other things, electric motors that rotate two propeller shafts with fixed-pitch propellers. The power plant accelerates the ship with a total displacement of 70 600 tons up to speed 26 knots (about 48 km / h).

Lockheed Martin F-35B Fighter-Bomber

The ship is literally packed with modern equipment and possesses a high level of automation for almost all processes, thanks to which its crew consists of just 679 people. In this case, of course, the strengths of the ship include its automated command and control system, which is integrated with long-range radar, which allows you to simultaneously accompany up to one thousand air targets at a distance of 250 nautical miles (about 460 km). In addition, the ship is a special center for the commander of the carrier strike group (AUG).

Another feature of the ship is that it is the first aircraft carrier that was originally designed for the use of 5th generation aircraft. The Queen’s air group will be based on the American Lockheed Martin F-35B fighter-bombers (with vertical / short take-off / landing). The staffing of the aircraft carrier aircraft group in the “oceanic” version will be 24 F-35B fighter jets, 9 Merlin anti-submarine helicopters and 4 or 5 Merlin helicopters in the AWACS variant. In addition, the aircraft carrier will be able to take on board army helicopters aviation - AH-64 Apache, AW159 Wildcat and even CH-47 Chinook of various modifications. This is important, since the UK Ministry of Defense considers the ship and as a means of performing joint interspecific and coastal operations. The aircraft carrier originally provided space for 250 marines, while if necessary, the number of marines can be increased to 900 people.

In the standard state, the aircraft carrier's air group will include up to 40 aircraft, however, as noted by the British military, if necessary, the ship will be able to take on board up to 70 aircraft. On the hangar deck of an aircraft carrier with an area of ​​155 on 33,5 meters and a height from 6,7 to 10 meters can accommodate up to 20 aircraft. Their rise to the flight deck is carried out with the help of two powerful elevators, each of which is able to simultaneously lift two F-35B fighter-bomber to the take-off deck, having spent 60 seconds on it. The elevators are so powerful that together they can lift the entire crew of the ship, noted in the company BAE Systems.

DRLO helicopter Merlin Mk2 with Crowsnest system

The aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth is designed for 420 sorties during 5 days with the possibility of carrying out operations at night. The maximum intensity of departures is - 110 for 24 hours. The maximum takeoff intensity of the aircraft is 24 in 15 minutes, the landing is 24 in aircraft in 24 minutes. There are no aerofinisers and accelerating catapults on board, without alteration, the ship can only take on board short-cut / vertical take-off / landing planes.

The weakest element of the “Queen” can be called defensive armament, which is represented only by various artillery installations. In particular, the three 20-mm six-barrel rapid-fire artillery mounts of the Phalanx CIWS short-range defense. This naval anti-aircraft artillery complex, designed to combat anti-ship missiles with subsonic and supersonic flight speeds (up to 2-x speeds of sound), for its distinctive appearance received the nickname R2-D2 in the US Navy. In addition to this complex, there is an 4 modern 30-mm DS30M Mk2 submachine gun and a number of machine guns designed to protect against asymmetric threats - terrorists and pirates in small boats.

For weak defensive weapons and large sizes, the aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth has already been called a convenient target for Russian anti-ship missiles. That was exactly what the Russian Defense Ministry said in response to the words of British Defense Minister Michael Fallon that "the Russians will look at the aircraft carrier with envy." Defensive weapons, indeed, the weakest point of the new British ship. On the other hand, it is built within a completely different concept of application. Unlike the only aircraft carrier in the Russian fleet, which carries a large number of various weapons, including anti-ship missiles and is able to operate autonomously, the British "Queen" is designed to be used as part of the AUG, when it will reliably cover numerous escort ships and submarines boats.

The aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth: the largest ship in the history of the British fleet
Anti-aircraft artillery complex Phalanx CIWS

The fact that the largest ship of the British fleet is vulnerable to anti-ship missiles, and experts say the British think tank Royal United Services Institute (RUSI). According to them, an anti-ship missile worth less than half a million pounds is able to at least deactivate a British aircraft carrier worth more than three billion pounds. "A salvo from 10 of such missiles would cost the Russian budget less than 4 a million pounds, it is much easier to destroy such targets by concentrating fire on them than developing something of the same level to fight on an equal footing," the RUSI experts report.

Tactical and technical characteristics of the aircraft carrier HMS «Queen Elizabeth» (R08):

Displacement - 70 600 t (full).
Length - 280 m.
Width - 73 m.
Height - 56 m.
Draft - 11 m.

Engines: two Rolls-Royce Marine Gas Turbine MT30 gas turbines with a capacity of 36 MW each and four Wartsila diesel generator sets with a total power of about 40 MW.

The maximum travel speed is up to 26 knots (48 km / h).

Cruising range - to 10 000 nautical miles (about 19 000 km).

The autonomy of swimming is 290 days.

The crew of the aircraft carrier - 679 man.

Marines - 250 man.

Total capacity - 1600 people (together with the personnel of the air group, according to the number of beds).

Air Group: up to 40 fighters and helicopters including up to 24 5 fighter-bombers-generation Lockheed Martin F-35B, to 9 antisubmarine helicopters AgustaWestland AW101 Merlin HM2 and 4-5 the Merlin helicopter AEW variant. If necessary, can take on board up to 70 aircraft.

Defensive armament: 3 Phalanx CIWS, 4x30-mm 30mm DS30M Mark 2 anti-aircraft artillery guns and machine guns to counter asymmetrical threats.

Information sources:
http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4791485
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/2992965.html
http://www.oborona.ru/includes/periodics/navy/2017/0818/100222197/detail.shtml
https://vpk.name/news/191779_ceremoniya_kresheniya_avianosca_prince_of_wales.html
http://www.baesystems.com
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  1. zzdimk
    zzdimk 13 December 2017 06: 21 New
    +2
    And how many billions will he eat in a year with f-35 on board? It is necessary to build eight more of these.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 13 December 2017 07: 45 New
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      there are 4 large dining areas on board, which employ 67 catering workers. They are able to serve up to 960 people in one hour. There is on board and its own hospital, designed for 8 beds (up to 8 serious bedridden patients), its own operating room and dental room, it is served by 11 medical workers. In 470 ship cabins can accommodate 1600 people (according to the number of berths), including 250 marines.
      and where are the cabins for whores and blackjack? am
      1. creak
        creak 13 December 2017 09: 16 New
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        Quote: Dead Day
        and where are the cabins for whores and blackjack?

        That's right, while our only "Kuznetsov" will be under repair, we will simply laugh at the British and their aircraft carrier ... fellow In which case, we will defeat them with our indestructible sense of humor ... am
        1. Kibb
          Kibb 13 December 2017 10: 08 New
          +2
          Well, he’s really quite a strange ship, let's see
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 13 December 2017 13: 05 New
            +3
            Quote: Dead Day
            and where are the cabins for whores and blackjack?


            Why should they?
            British sailors have a long history of dispensing with women on long voyages ...

            About the ship:
            maritime country, dependent on maritime communications, they need aircraft carriers

            We do not need to envy, we have other needs.
            We need high-speed rail and conventional roads, passenger planes and icebreakers


        2. AshiSolo
          AshiSolo 13 December 2017 20: 40 New
          +2
          Well, no kidding, Kuzya repeated, moreover, under the replay of Yakov, and this comes as progress? Well, ok ... Okay, we can’t afford, but they could have washed down the standards of an aircraft carrier. Well, it’s just a hell of a krakozyabra "based on". What for?
          1. Bobik012
            Bobik012 12 March 2018 21: 53 New
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            more like a repetition of American UDC taking into account the landing, only with less capabilities. They would buy those two Mistrals from France, and build a couple of Invisibles, only new ones, half the price, and at least not worse. And so a laughing stock
      2. xetai9977
        xetai9977 13 December 2017 11: 38 New
        +6
        Thanks to the author for the review. Very beautiful ship! We must pay tribute to the shipbuilders! As for the fact that “it can be disabled by a rocket,” the rocket must first reach the ship. This is not an easy task. This is similar to the statement “that any president can be shot with an ordinary pistol” - but approaching a hypothetical president is also not an easy task.
    2. seti
      seti 13 December 2017 10: 00 New
      +1
      Greetings to Argentina and the Falkland Islands ... But if the Argentines bustle around and find money for good submarines with an air-independent installation, modern fighters with good anti-ship missiles and, most importantly, smart leadership and the will to win, then they do not care about these aircraft carriers. But I'm afraid they need to forget about the Falklands.
      1. parma
        parma 13 December 2017 10: 59 New
        +1
        About the submarine, a "good" joke in the light of recent events ... But in general, shaved well done
        1. seti
          seti 13 December 2017 11: 34 New
          +2
          What are they doing well? The ship is beautiful but not enough.
          The construction took 8 (!) Years and exceeded the budget by more than two times. Not to mention the cost of an air group. This is a hello to those who shout that they are doing everything for us with a delay .. Everywhere the United States is also no exception ... And it will take another 5 years to finish. Total 13 (!) .. But it’s in words and in practice .. You need to master a bunch of new mechanisms and transgender people of Her Majesty now in the Navy is not up to it.
          If all the same, his brother the Prince of Wales leads to the mind (well, they will find the money and there is none), then there aren’t enough escort ships in the Nuglax Saxon fleet .. And those that aren’t happy with reliability .. Aw, an aircraft carrier without cover .. How is it? Maybe our bosom partners from the other side of the 50 puddle will lend old destroyers for the next deflection, but I doubt it .. The times are not the same now ..
          And last .. Where to apply it then? Like Tobaki, he will not go to the north as well as the Pacific Ocean, where you will not drag an escort squadron, and it is far from the coast of India. Remains the Atlantic with African shores, the Red Sea to control the Suez Canal.
          Conclusion - Queen Elizabeth is rather a ship of prestige for the UK, which is implicitly suffering from the loss of its status as "mistress of the seas" and is trying to show its role in world domination.
          Well, a potential target and a place for future training of our divers if it comes to our hospitable shores for a new intervention.
          1. parma
            parma 13 December 2017 12: 02 New
            +6
            Yes, there are many problems with him, but they BUILT him and the second in line! Many countries in the world can boast the construction of boats of this size and complexity? Alas, our country is not one of those few today, and not because we don’t need it ..
            And as for the scope and escort ... I think their relatives behind the puddle will provide everything if necessary (and the escort and I even think the planes with the pilots), because the Britons have not rolled a barrel to anyone for a very long time (the last time they were the Falklands, and even then they there, on the contrary, the barrel was rolled away from itself, so to speak) ... And Her Majesty's fleet today is stronger than our Baltic, Black Sea, and Pacific (and in terms of the composition of some elements and all taken together) ...
            1. seti
              seti 13 December 2017 12: 14 New
              +1
              If you don’t know, then a buyer is looking for a second boat .. Since the Lords have doubts that they need it and there is no money, as mentioned above. It is possible that they will build prestige all the same, etc., but then again when it will be combat ready .. But it’s not enough to build - the air group is also worth mom keep me in the chair ..
              This is a fact that the Yankees will not help competitors with modern ships.
              Quote: parma
              And Her Majesty’s fleet today is stronger than that of our Baltic, that of the Black Sea, that of the Pacific (and in terms of the composition of some elements and all together) ...

              Lord, but do not write nonsense ...) What they are stronger than us fool Can you give a specific example?
              It is important to have the ship that is needed for specific tasks .. Do we need a similar aircraft carrier? No, because it is not being built .. Do you need Naglosaks? Yes nifiga he is not needed ..
              It’s just an inferiority complex .. And a baton in cases of Papuans who have nothing to answer with. In modern warfare, he is only a target.
              1. parma
                parma 13 December 2017 12: 34 New
                +3
                If this is the case, why are we rolling our under-sub-cruiser to Syria? Why drowned 2 aircraft from the AG? Why did the Mistrals order and are we going to ever build their analogues? Why are they now working on atomic avik and are considering building?
                And they are even stronger than the composition of the Navy compared with any of our fleets (they have ships of any class in the Navy more than in our separate fleet). Do we have big problems with landing and transport ships in general, or have you forgotten where you got boats for the Syrian express?
                As for the tasks .... The tasks are changing and new ones appear ... Today there is no goal, tomorrow there are ... But the ships are not being built in 5 minutes ... Take the same Syria - until 2011-2012 we also didn’t have to carry much cargo warring partners, the Air Force also did not have to make thousands of sorties on the bearded ... If you think that there are no goals and therefore do not need anything, why do we need an army today? we are not at war with anyone ... back to the Middle Ages ... I created the GDP for myself (I even called it the guard), and we will convene the rest in case of war, right?
                1. bulvas
                  bulvas 13 December 2017 13: 10 New
                  +1
                  Quote: parma
                  Why are we rolling our half-nedo-sub-cruiser to Syria? Why drowned 2 aircraft from the AG?


                  Didn’t you understand?
                  To train pilots of naval aviation, get combat experience
                2. seti
                  seti 13 December 2017 13: 16 New
                  +2
                  - They drove so that the flight group (we have one) did not lose their skills but acquired in combat conditions. In order to understand for the future which aircraft carrier (or several) we should build to replace Kuzi. To have an aircraft carrier and not run in - why then do you need it .. Why spend money on its maintenance? Therefore, they tried it in practice. Kuzya and K managed.
                  And they ordered Mistral because it was part of a deal with France for the 6 day war. Well, they got in the appendage the French technology of large-site assembly. We built feed parts.
                  - Give examples of what they have more - do not shirk common phrases. Landing ships and we have, but this is not an indicator. And we can mobilize transport ships if necessary in our merchant fleet, but there is no urgent need for this. They managed the same Syrian express (junk bought from Turkey and our BDK). There is a need for ships of other classes and much more acute than in transport.
            2. AshiSolo
              AshiSolo 13 December 2017 20: 46 New
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              They built it ... Well, they built the Zenith Arena. How many countries can build the Zenith arena?

              And in Minsk we built the Mayak-Minsk. They promised that this would not happen either in London or in Dubai. And yes, such a *** will not be either in London or in Dubai. And this is never a reason for pride.

              It's like having 20 thousand dallars, buy awesome bu premium on them. And then sell for 10 at the first breakdown ...
            3. Bobik012
              Bobik012 12 March 2018 21: 54 New
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              In this form, it certainly doesn’t need us (and not only us)
  2. sevtrash
    sevtrash 13 December 2017 07: 57 New
    +1
    Compared to American aircraft carriers, this one looks like a pre-aircraft carrier.
  3. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 13 December 2017 08: 07 New
    +2
    There is also a hospital on board designed for 8 beds (up to 8 serious bedridden patients)
    This is not a hospital, but one chamber! In the event of a missile strike, the wounded could be tens of times larger. laughing
  4. mitrich
    mitrich 13 December 2017 08: 22 New
    +5
    But we didn’t have this, there’s not and is not expected.
  5. Monarchist
    Monarchist 13 December 2017 08: 37 New
    +1
    At the time, N. S. stated that the submarine was everything and the aircraft carriers did not need the Soviet state and that was it. How much time has passed, and we have found 1001 arguments that Russia does not need an aircraft carrier.
  6. Trapperxnumx
    Trapperxnumx 13 December 2017 10: 07 New
    +3
    Well done Britons, they built an excellent boat, in the best traditions of the fleet. I have only two wishes:
    1. Good weather and seven feet under the keel
    2. In the case of (God forbid) war with Russia - drown quickly and beautifully with all the wing soldier
  7. Tuzik
    Tuzik 13 December 2017 10: 37 New
    0
    this is some kind of helicopter carrier overgrowth.
  8. BAI
    BAI 13 December 2017 11: 55 New
    +1
    Unlike the vast majority of traditional aircraft carriers, Queen Elizabeth received two small superstructures.

    Add-ons were not assembled at the shipyard, but at a factory in another place. Delivery to the slipway is a whole epic. Discovery was shown. The whole procedure was led by a woman. This blue crane in the photo is the most powerful crane in the world. Add-in weight - 950 tons, lifted by this crane.
  9. Magic archer
    Magic archer 13 December 2017 11: 55 New
    +1
    A strange ship ... and many controversial decisions! Why is there no air defense system on such a colossus ?! Why such a weak air defense system? Why a springboard ?! With these dimensions it would be better to use full-fledged aircraft and not neutered F-35B! Yes, and Hokai is better than a helicopter . Apparently the project itself is too truncated.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 13 December 2017 15: 12 New
      +1
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Why is there no ae on such a colossus ?!

      Originally wanted. But there was not enough money.
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Why such a weak air defense system ?!

      Because AB does not go alone. Its air defense is an air group + EM "type 45".
      The air defense task of the AB itself is to shoot through individual missile launchers that broke through the air defense system of the aircraft carrier group.
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Why springboard ?!

      As the limes themselves write, the cost of the catapult itself was 280 million pounds. But the total cost of remaking the AB into an ejection variant was initially 900 million pounds, and finally 2 billion pounds. In fact, catapults doubled the cost of AB. Moreover, most of the costs were not for the purchase of the equipment itself, but for the adaptation of the British AB for American equipment.
      Moreover, the designers and builders were so sure that there would be no catapult, what? Despite regularly receiving suggestions for their installation or designing the AB as "suitable for modernization into an ejection system," I have not carried out any work on adapting the AB to ejections since 2002.
      Because the decision to go STOVL [that is the initial decision for jumpjets] was taken in, from memory, 2002, no serious work had been done. It had been noodled in 2005, but no serious work had been done on it. It was not a contract-quality offer; it was a simple assertion that that could be done, but nobody said, “It can be done at this price”, and certainly nobody put that in a contract.
      1. Bobik012
        Bobik012 12 March 2018 22: 02 New
        0
        You will laugh, but there are no nuclear power plants because the British industry does not know how to do them. Sam fucked up. Do not own technology. Why in America or France did not buy, kill I do not catch up. Apparently so that the crack, so the crack
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 13 December 2017 15: 15 New
      0
      Better ask - why does an AB with a displacement of slightly less than the Forrestal Air Group consist of only 24 KVVP aircraft? smile
      1. Magic archer
        Magic archer 14 December 2017 01: 33 New
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        Thank you for the detailed answer! For me this is a strange ship. If you already build an Aircraft carrier, then you must at least focus on Nimitz. And having spent such huge grandmothers and get an improved Kuznetsov, this is beyond my understanding! The French at least tried.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 14 December 2017 10: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: Magic Archer
          If you already build an Aircraft Carrier, then you need to at least focus on Nimitz. And having spent such huge grandmothers and get an improved Kuznetsov, this is beyond my understanding!

          And Balda condemned with reproach:
          "You would not chase, pop, for cheapness."
          smile
          It’s just that the sinister spirit of Queen Elizabeth’s first atomic destroyer, destroyed by a sudden raid of Labor-winning election workers, hovered over the design and construction of QE and PoW for financial reasons. Therefore, RN had great chances to remain completely without AB at any significant increase in their cost (either as a result of cancellation of the building, or as a result of completion with subsequent sale abroad). So they cut the performance characteristics in the name of economy.
          1. Bobik012
            Bobik012 12 March 2018 22: 04 New
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            Why is it advanced? Rather inferior Kuznetsov. Without air defense, strike weapons and the worst air group
  10. Conductor
    Conductor 13 December 2017 14: 05 New
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    Quote: seti
    What are they doing well? The ship is beautiful but not enough.
    The construction took 8 (!) Years and exceeded the budget by more than two times. Not to mention the cost of an air group. This is a hello to those who shout that they are doing everything for us with a delay .. Everywhere the United States is also no exception ... And it will take another 5 years to finish. Total 13 (!) .. But it’s in words and in practice .. You need to master a bunch of new mechanisms and transgender people of Her Majesty now in the Navy is not up to it.
    If all the same, his brother the Prince of Wales leads to the mind (well, they will find the money and there is none), then there aren’t enough escort ships in the Nuglax Saxon fleet .. And those that aren’t happy with reliability .. Aw, an aircraft carrier without cover .. How is it? Maybe our bosom partners from the other side of the 50 puddle will lend old destroyers for the next deflection, but I doubt it .. The times are not the same now ..
    And last .. Where to apply it then? Like Tobaki, he will not go to the north as well as the Pacific Ocean, where you will not drag an escort squadron, and it is far from the coast of India. Remains the Atlantic with African shores, the Red Sea to control the Suez Canal.
    Conclusion - Queen Elizabeth is rather a ship of prestige for the UK, which is implicitly suffering from the loss of its status as "mistress of the seas" and is trying to show its role in world domination.
    Well, a potential target and a place for future training of our divers if it comes to our hospitable shores for a new intervention.

    money can be borrowed from London sitters, the legal framework already exists.
  11. AlexanderBrv
    AlexanderBrv 13 December 2017 17: 44 New
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    [b] [/ b] The British are too optimistic - the air group to 70 LA? The hangars of the Queen Elizabeth aircraft carrier can accommodate no more than 23 aircraft; on deck it is possible to place up to 30-35 aircraft. And how to operate with such an air group on an "overloaded" deck? In the coming years, Queen Elizabeth will most likely be used as a landing helicopter carrier (instead of being withdrawn from Ocean ROYAL NAVY in 2018).
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 14 December 2017 21: 21 New
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      Until they master the F-35B. If even the simple Harriers managed to turn the tide of the Falkle War (the British remember this), then the wound F-35 has much more opportunities.
  12. Lucy
    Lucy 13 December 2017 21: 52 New
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    Quote: bulvas
    To train pilots of naval aviation, get combat experience

    They are already training on KBP in P-3, but they have almost all the exercises on the EC.
    Which combat?
  13. Lucy
    Lucy 13 December 2017 21: 54 New
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    Quote: Ingvar 72
    This is not a hospital, but one chamber! In the event of a missile strike, the wounded could be tens of times larger.

    There is a ship morgue on the ship, but you do not need to know this.
    1. Bersaglieri
      Bersaglieri 13 December 2017 23: 37 New
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      On any ship where there is a full medical unit, there is also a morgue with a refrigerator. The norm is this.
      1. Wasiliy1985
        Wasiliy1985 15 December 2017 20: 38 New
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        Different countries - different regulations.
  14. Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 13 December 2017 23: 36 New
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    The catapult is not enough ... For STOBAR- oversized. (like our "Kuznetsov", however)
    Normal dimensions for STOBAR are "Cavour" or "Juan Carlos"
  15. Lucy
    Lucy 14 December 2017 11: 35 New
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    Quote: Bersaglieri
    morgue with a fridge


    If with a refrigerator according to the norm G. Onishchenko, then already for cooking omul with a shower. drinks
  16. Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 14 December 2017 17: 58 New
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    Do British want to conquer other countries? but at least they understand that against Russia he is a useless target
  17. Wasiliy1985
    Wasiliy1985 15 December 2017 20: 29 New
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    An interesting design in the last photo .. Is it not ammunition for an hour? In a barrel encircled by a supply sleeve that is lower than the barrel unit ..
    If so, it’s very interesting - how will it feel in freezing temperatures during a storm? And what about the freezing of the feed sleeve?
  18. Wasiliy1985
    Wasiliy1985 15 December 2017 20: 35 New
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    Defensive armament: 3 Phalanx CIWS, 4x30-mm 30mm DS30M Mark 2 anti-aircraft artillery guns and machine guns to counter asymmetrical threats.
    Especially the "asymmetric threats" suppressed by machine guns are impressive.
    Self-propelled marine fraternal burial at 1600 equipped graves ..
  19. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 23 December 2017 19: 06 New
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    Expected to see and hear something more impressive!
  20. Turist1996
    Turist1996 1 January 2018 21: 36 New
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    And the lack of nuclear power plants forced to abandon the catapults, because of this it was necessary to take the F-35 under-plane as the main aviation weapon. And because of this, I had to make a springboard, as on the “Kuz” (ay, where are the lovers of Soviet engineering and marine thought?). And the springboard is also such that half the area of ​​the tank part of the flight deck is just a parking lot for a fire. And the corner landing deck - and not at all !! Box sharpened exclusively for one type of aircraft. And that one is exclusive !!
    Paragraph - the British "genius" of shipbuilding gave birth to a megacraft! But in fact: the mountain gave birth to a mouse ....
  21. jurijsv
    jurijsv 25 March 2018 18: 56 New
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    God grant "Dagger" to experience
  22. Warrior2015
    Warrior2015 25 July 2018 22: 26 New
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    Serious little devil! A major goal however and worthy of a "prize"! laughing
  23. Bobik012
    Bobik012 10 August 2018 16: 04 New
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    More to such! Then we are not afraid of war
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