Remotely controlled vehicles will not yield to Abrams (Defense Blog)

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Remotely controlled vehicles will not yield to Abrams (Defense Blog)


In the next five years, the US Army plans to begin testing prototype remote-controlled vehicles, known as RCVs. This Drones, who are as fast as the Stryker but have firepower tank M-1 Abrams, the major said. Alan L. Stevens.



Stevens is responsible for logistical support at the US Army Center of Excellence. 30 November, he spoke at the Summit on the future ground combat vehicles.

The central idea of ​​the summit was the technology of the next generation. According to Stevens, the army thinks that it can put into service a limited number of remote-controlled vehicles. The results of trial tests can help to create more advanced prototypes.

Instead of the traditional planned purchases, a limited number of remotely-controlled combat vehicles (RDS) and spare parts will be purchased, which can be used to assemble the RDS, and then soldiers will train on them in combat training centers and at training grounds.

Then the analysis conducted on the results of such testing will be used to compile a list of requirements for the characteristics of the DBMS.

The development paper for the development of a joint venture will not appear before 2022 of the year, Stevens added.
OAK will have a number of advantages and superior Abrams tanks, said Stevens, who has experience as a system engineer.

First, the OAK is an unmanned vehicle. This means that in versions with a remotely controlled configuration can go ahead manned vehicles to scout the area and walk through the most dangerous parts of the battlefield.

According to him, while in the test version it is calculated to use two unmanned vehicles for each manned one. But this ratio may change after testing begins, and the first errors will be revealed. You may have to come to the ratio of 1: 4.

In addition, the term "unmanned" means different levels of autonomy. For example, at the lowest level in a vehicle there is no crew, but it is controlled by radio. At the highest level, a vehicle can be completely autonomous and use artificial intelligence and neural networks. So far it seems impossible, but everything goes to that.

Another advantage of the Dubrak Abrams tanks is that they will be easier and more maneuverable. This means that they will move faster and can be transferred by air, which gives the commander more opportunities.

Since the OEDS will be unmanned, there will be more space for direct and indirect fire. An example of a system with indirect aiming is an 81-mm mortar. And with the shooting of direct fire Abrams does an excellent job.

Stevens said that discussions are currently underway to unite the UAV with the DBMS to provide horizon observation and exploration. The prototype architecture will include cyber defense and anti-jamming equipment.

Daniel McCormick, Deputy Director General for the Chemical and Biological Protection Program, said he was delighted with the DBMS and other robotic tools, given the worldwide spread of chemical, biological and radiological threats, especially on the Korean Peninsula and in the Middle East.
Existing sensors, for example, infrared, can detect not only the enemy, but also its biological and chemical weapon, he said. UAVs could provide protection at a greater distance, making equipment and people inaccessible to enemy fire.

“We are close to achieving parity with our competitors on the battlefield,” concluded Stevens, “so there is a sense in the SDM program.”

However, he added, there is still a lot of work to be done to bring the damaging effect of the DBMS to the Abrams TTX tanks, but to ease the platform, making it more maneuverable.

“We are going to do the impossible and achieve compliance with the original requirements,” he added.
Stevens noted that three army commands were involved in the DBMS program - the Center for Research, Development and Design of Armaments, the Center for Development in Tank Building and the Center for Research and Development in the Field of Communications and Electronics.

He calls on the industrial sector to help make the Dubrama a reality, and also offered to carry out testing on simulation vehicles, such as the M-113 armored personnel carrier, which the army can provide.
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  1. 0
    12 December 2017 07: 35
    These are drones that are fast, like the Stryker, but possess the firepower of the M-1 Abrams, the major said. Alan L. Stevens.
    Yes, cool, but, already tired of everything, with their own, - "And with us, yes we are."
    We, too, are not made with a finger. Mikhalkov, half a hundred years ago, wrote: - And the gas in the apartment! And you?. And from our window Red Square is visible. "
    1. dSK
      +1
      12 December 2017 08: 31
      Hello grandfather!
      Quote: Chichikov
      "And with us, yes we are."
      "The next tests of the latest American destroyer Zumwalt, which took place on December 5, once again ended in failure, due to which the ship was forced to return to the shipyard in Maine. This is stated in a statement by the US Navy. The day after the ship’s departure, harmonic filters failed to protect the electrical equipment from voltage surges. Because of this, the newest destroyer has lost the ability to use its power grid. The invisible destroyer, since last fall, has been repaired several times. In particular, leaks were reported in his power plant, then the heat exchangers failed, which caused the ship to return to base in tow. One shot from his unique cannon costs the US budget $ 800. "(First Russian television station Tsargrad 06: 24., 12.12.17/XNUMX/XNUMX) When the power goes out - the "civilization" somewhere "evaporates". hi
      1. +1
        12 December 2017 08: 39
        Quote from dsk
        Hello grandpa! "The next tests of the latest American destroyer Zumwalt, which took place on December 5, once again ended in failure, due to which the ship was forced to return to the shipyard in Maine.
        And you, hello for many summers!
        Yes, this is understandable - again, Putin is to blame. The shamans and sorcerers of the world must recognize him as the most, the most ..., - he spoke half the world, and half the world jinxed!
        1. +1
          12 December 2017 11: 54
          "Yes, that’s understandable - again, Putin is to blame." What a shame, our hackers did not have time to do anything with Zumwalt, he grunted.
  2. 0
    12 December 2017 09: 14
    So what? And we have ready-made prototypes. And what's next? While there is no full-fledged portable combat AI, all this is an empty rustling.
    1. -1
      12 December 2017 10: 06
      Почему нет?
      Moving over rough terrain on caterpillars, shooting at everything that he sees is also a might.
      You can also add 4 phrases - "so sure", no, "there is," and "cheers."
      1. +1
        15 December 2017 00: 31
        As long as they didn’t even shove an automatic loader into Abrams. And I strongly suspect that in the drone with such a set of phrases, instead of AI, the same Negro Joe will sit)))
    2. -1
      26 February 2018 12: 49
      That's the point that they work out on mistakes and breakdowns, and they will bring us, then we should scratch our heads and say where we were and why we didn’t ... And if they don’t let Armata out in a crewless version, then the lag will be a long time .. .
  3. 0
    12 December 2017 10: 09
    Cool.
    In fact, the mythical "Stryker mobility" can manifest itself only on the road 8))) Only there can it be compared with the "Abrams" For the "Stryker" is stronger than the "Abrams" from the "obesity" inherent in almost all American technology
    Well, statements about attempts to balance the firepower of something like "Stryker" and "Abrams" personally cause a legitimate distrust of me.
    No, they can do it at the level of brochures and high-profile statements, but in real life ...
  4. 0
    12 December 2017 10: 55
    The absence of a crew in the car reduces the reservation to a minimum, thus improving mobility and maneuverability. Unmanned vehicles have already been deployed on the battlefield. Repeatedly and successfully.
    Robots have a future.
    1. 0
      12 December 2017 11: 03
      Quote: professor
      The absence of a crew in the car reduces the reservation to a minimum, thus improving mobility and maneuverability.

      And having made such machines vulnerable even from an “anti-material rifle”?
      Why do we need such "robots"? Well, besides the "show off".
      1. -1
        12 December 2017 12: 33
        Well, if there will be a lot of them, or even a lot of them, inexpensive ...
        But if so, it will not be very soon.
      2. 0
        12 December 2017 12: 35
        Quote: Spade
        And having made such machines vulnerable even from an “anti-material rifle”?
        Why do we need such "robots"? Well, besides the "show off".

        They are cheaper than super-expensive tanks whose price has already gone for $ 10. They can be stamped by orders of magnitude more. Modern AI has already surpassed the draftee Vasya Pupkin. They are easier to transport and loss of a drone does not imply allowance to the widow and orphans.
        1. 0
          12 December 2017 12: 41
          Quote: professor
          They are cheaper than super expensive tanks

          eight))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
          A machine with equal or greater firepower and greater mobility than a tank will it be cheaper?
          Well, well 8))))))))))))))))
          Or maybe just stop putting crocodile leather seats in the tanks?

          Quote: professor
          Modern AI has already surpassed the draftee Vasya Pupkin

          What, in a game of chess? May be ...
          1. 0
            12 December 2017 13: 03
            Quote: Spade
            A machine with equal or greater firepower and greater mobility than a tank will it be cheaper?

            Of course. The machine will finally become a platform for weapons, and not a home for the crew.

            Quote: Spade
            Or maybe just stop putting crocodile leather seats in the tanks?

            Stop placing any seats, a protection system for those who are sitting on these seats, including a WMD protection system, remove thick and expensive composite armor, remove KAZ and other gadgets. You see, the unit will no longer cost 10 million American rubles and will become an expendable material as it should be. By the way, it will not even be on a hybrid drive, but on a fully electric one. battery and electric motor. Cheap, reliable and a range of 500 km is provided.

            Quote: Spade
            What, in a game of chess? May be ...

            Driving on roads
            1. 0
              12 December 2017 15: 52
              Quote: professor
              Stop placing any seats, a protection system for those who are sitting on these seats, including a WMD protection system, remove thick and expensive composite armor, remove KAZ and other gadgets. You see, the unit will no longer cost 10 million American rubles and will become a consumable

              It is possible in this way. So that the enemy infantry was able to knock out these miracle machines with the usual rifleman
              I like, approve.
              True, it will not be cheaper. Rather, the opposite.
              1. 0
                12 December 2017 16: 18
                Quote: Spade
                It is possible in this way. So that the enemy infantry was able to knock out these miracle machines with the usual rifleman

                If of course the enemy infantry is solid Rambo, then yes. In the meantime, ordinary infantry with equal success knocks out tanks with ordinary pocket artillery and darts at the sight of SUVs with a DShK. Such is it, the enemy infantry.

                Quote: Spade
                I like, approve.

                I am glad. And then I thought you will be campaigning for atavisms at a price of $ 10'000'000.

                Quote: Spade
                True, it will not be cheaper. Rather, the opposite.

                And we will see this in the near future. hi
  5. 0
    12 December 2017 12: 15
    Apparently, the Americans got hooked on Japanese cartoons about robots. They dream of crossing a hedgehog with a boa constrictor and at the same time endlessly rassusolit about the danger of AI. A vicious circle - AI should not harm a person, but it will be built into military equipment, while it should self-learn, but not higher than a person’s level, it must be as autonomous as possible, but depend on the will of the person, and other paradoxes of robotics.
    Although the Americans are shouting that they are jumping through the technological structure faster than anyone, it is far from conceived, as I see it. No breakthrough discoveries in this direction have been noticed, heaps of limitations of a scientific, technical and other plan - under each wheel.
    Pseudo-intelligence (self-improving algorithms) and its cheap mass carriers at the present stage. But this is a dead end, hatred, not tactics.
  6. 0
    12 December 2017 15: 36
    Everything new is well forgotten old.

    Soviet television tanks on Red Square. On the right is a remote-controlled tank, on the left is a control machine
    Experimental work in the field of domestic tank telemechanics unfolded in the second half of the 1920s. In 1927, television equipment for the Renault Russian light tank (this is the domestic version of the French Renault FT) was developed at the Red Army Military Electrotechnical Academy (VETA), and in the Central Laboratory for Wired Communications (CLPS) - for the light tank MS-1 (T -eighteen).

    At the beginning, the teletanks were controlled from stationary PAUT remote controls (automatic tank control post), then the reliability of the telemechanical equipment increased significantly, which made it possible to transmit teletank commands from a specially designed control tank (these are ordinary tanks with standard weapons, supplemented by equipment that allowed the crew to transmit teletank commands). This provided the operator with the opportunity to move around the battlefield under the protection of armor.
  7. 0
    12 December 2017 15: 48
    It’s timely, but I would start, like Russia, with wedges
    for reconnaissance and infantry support.
  8. +4
    12 December 2017 20: 31
    Oak-m, that is, invented modified oak))

    Well, well, let them compose fairy tales about a boy weighing 50 kg, but with the functionality of a terminator))
    Russia already has Uranium-9.