"West-2017." To crush NATO with one division ...

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Summary of the conspiracy of Poland-Baltic-Ukraine and the collective West on the subject of the Russian-Belarusian military maneuvers "West-2017": a) Russia will introduce troops, but will not withdraw; b) Russian troops will use the territory of Belarus to control the Suvalki corridor by cutting off the Baltic countries from the rest of the civilized and democratic world; c) Putin’s army, without declaring war, will attack NATO and annex everything that comes into its sight. And so on and so forth.

Grybauskaite gathered almost personally to observe how Russia will withdraw its troops back. In the North Atlantic military bloc, from which several dozens of military observers and media representatives are invited to the Russian-Belarusian maneuvers, they call the “West-2017” “insufficiently open maneuvers”, without specifying what Moscow and Minsk should still do to maneuvers were called open or at least transparent. Poland, through the mouth of representatives of the Ministry of Defense and representatives of the political science expert community, declares that Russia "provokes a major military conflict."



Polish Radio cites a portal browser statement Defense24 Juliusha Sabak:

This game is the muscles of Russia and the demonstration of their strength does not preclude any action to further destabilize the situation in the region. The very fact of such a concentration of Russian forces, and about 2017-90 thousands of soldiers, including reservists from the western military districts, should take part in the West-100 maneuvers and adjacent exercises, should already cause great concern. After all, this is military power, living power and technology, which none of the countries neighboring Russia could cope with on their own.


This kind of rhetoric is becoming more and more loud as the start of the Russian-Belarusian military maneuvers is approaching (the launch is scheduled for September 14).

At the same time, it should be stated that the "partners" are doing everything to voice many times the number of forces and means that are surpassing the reality. So, in total, in the Zapad-2017 maneuvers from Belarus and from Russia, less than 13 thousand troops will take part. As you can see, the Polish expert drags in here some kind of “adjacent exercises” and voices the value for 100 thousands of “bayonets” in front of Polish radio listeners. What it is done for is clear. After all, any person who understands military tactics and strategies understands that all these cries of aggression are a bloated soap bubble for the simple reason that if the Russian armed forces had suddenly gathered to seize or cut off / cut through the corridor, then surely would not report the date of the "start of the offensive." Moreover, to carry out an “invasion” on the territory of NATO countries by forces that are numerically equal, in fact, of one division is not even funny ...

"West-2017." To crush NATO with one division ...


In general, for the Europeans (and in the first place - the Poles with Balts), the terrible image of Russia is drawn - so terrible that even a division seems capable of capturing almost all of mother Europe. You get acquainted with the publications of the Western media and it seems that quite a bit more and in some Polish rag will appear something from the series “Russian soldiers drink the blood of European babies”. Yeah. No wonder they talk about cyclical stories.

So, what forces and means will really be involved in the “West-2017” maneuvers? Here are the data that are not only published in the media, they are also sent to NATO functionaries, so that they scratch the "turnip" for openness:

7200 servicemen of the Armed Forces of Belarus, 5,5 тыс. Russian military. At the same time, out of the indicated 5,5 thousands of Russians, only 3 thousand.

Equipment and weapons: to 70 airplanes and helicoptersTo 250 tanks, about Xnumx artillery shells, MLRS and mortars, near 300 military vehicles, as well as the BTR, BMP, BMD. From the Russian Federation - even before 10 warships and auxiliary vessels.

On the territory of Belarus for the maneuvers will be involved six polygons: Borisov, Domanovsky, Lepel, Vitebsk landfill “Losvido”, Osipovichsky and Ruzhansky.

In addition to the territory of the Republic of Belarus, maneuvers will be held on the territory of the Kaliningrad, Pskov and Leningrad regions of the Russian Federation.
From the official explanation of the scenario maneuvers:

The intention of the exercise provides that extremist groups have penetrated the territory of the Republic of Belarus and the Kaliningrad Oblast of the Russian Federation, whose goal is to carry out terrorist acts and destabilize the situation in the Union State. Extremists have external support, receiving material and technical assistance, armament and military equipment from the air and the sea.
To combat conditional terrorists, it is supposed to work out a number of tactical episodes:
the transfer of military units and subunits of the Regional Group of Forces (Forces) to the areas of operation of bandit groups, with their subsequent isolation;
the actions of the Air Force and Air Defense Forces to support the ground forces and block air channels to supply illegal armed formations;
conducting a special operation to eliminate illegal armed groups, stabilizing the situation;
Baltic forces fleet sea ​​blockade of the area of ​​the special operation, the suppression of the withdrawal of gangs by sea.


The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus emphasize:
Despite the fact that the main part of the joint strategic military exercise "Zapad-2017" is held on the territory of the Republic of Belarus, during the development of the plan a conditional adversary was implied that was not related to a specific region.

The President of the Republic of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko also had to enter into the matter of specifying the issues of conducting maneuvers. At the same time, the head of Belarus noted that when covering the preparation for the doctrine and their course, the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Belarus “should cease to justify itself”.

BelTA quotes Lukashenko's statement:
I would like to hear information from the Ministry of Defense on the eve of the start of the active phase of the West-2017 exercises. What is the situation in this regard? At the same time I want to warn you: stop making excuses - our teachings are defensive in nature, something else. There is an army, there is a joint grouping of Belarus and Russia in the western direction. And if it exists (we did not hide it from anyone), we will teach it to fight. Just in case. We are not going to attack anyone. And what will be these teachings - we invited almost everyone.


And what will happen next: the maneuvers will end, the troops will return to the points of permanent dislocation, and those conspiracyologists who today are spraying everyone with saliva, trying to "prove" Russia's aggressive intentions during the exercises, quietly close their mouths and, without even bothering to explain why their predictions have burned will begin to look for new reasons to bark in the direction of Russia.

But Lukashenka is right (even if he appealed exclusively to the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Belarus): we (the Union State) are too often trying to justify someone, automatically putting themselves in an awkward position. For years, NATO has been building its infrastructure at our borders - a hostile bloc with missile systems and a growing number of battalions, and we are again justifying ourselves. Where is the logic, sir? ..
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  1. +49
    6 September 2017 06: 20
    If the GDP comes to an agreement with Butskaya and all the same on an ongoing basis leaves at least one division in Belarus - it will be simply a masterpiece! But this must be done not for the sake of political dividends, but for the sake of understanding by the Baltic States and Poland that Russia will not joke! Rudeness can be tolerated, but up to a certain point ... It’s best to place, of course, a tank army, the 5th Guards Tank Red Banner Army, for example, it was once stationed in the Bobruisk area in order to hint to Macron that “Russian tanks have La Masha ", this is not only a horror story from the Soviet past, but it will also remind the Germans ... It is necessary for everyone to understand once and for all one simple truth - only power is respected in the world - then they will reckon with you! If a country chews snot and bleats about world peace, then its feet are cynically wiped off!
    1. +26
      6 September 2017 06: 33
      What's the point? Why pull up to the borders of the division, which will be destroyed at the very beginning of the conflict? I think that today it is much more relevant to have in Belarus serious defensive structures and air defense and anti-missile defense units. Not such serious distances there, so that you can not pull up the troops in hours ...
      We are trying to catch on the hook, which is abandoned in the recent past. Thousands of BTG in the Baltic States and Poland. The mirror answer means the Russians planned it a long time ago, and we are ahead of them. They scared Russia. I think the exercises will just show our opponents the possibilities of such a mobile regrouping of troops. For the West, the problem of logistics is the most unsolvable. and we can. And we can quickly ... Let them die fellow
      1. +13
        6 September 2017 06: 37
        What does it mean destroyed? Can you imagine a full-blooded tank army? In order to destroy it, you have to try very hard, but today there are simply no such forces in the West, but understanding that they have such power within walking distance will sober up the heads of all politicians and, most importantly, the heads of the townsfolk who vote for these cretins !
        1. +4
          6 September 2017 08: 35
          But can you read more about what forces they have in the West?
          1. +8
            6 September 2017 09: 20
            In total, NATO really has the strength of the entire European theater of operations in 200 thousand bayonets! Their main hope is for a quick redeployment of American troops from across the ocean ... But here a rather complicated management structure interferes with numerous headquarters and all kinds of combined commands! . Even American military experts believe that because of this, the real capabilities of the European part of the military bloc today barely reach 10% of the US. hi Without the Americans, and if we stop taking into account the Turkish army, the brothers of the Bulgarians and the Greeks, then in fact NATO in Europe is a big soap bubble! Although it’s natural not to take it into account. The danger is represented by England and France, even the Germans are not the same ...
            1. +3
              6 September 2017 11: 40
              Like an aggregate EU army of 1,5 million
              1. +9
                6 September 2017 12: 59
                We are talking about an alliance, and not about the population of Europe walking in uniform - you still count the partisans! hi
                For the deployment of units to the military states, it takes three months according to their standards. And then, I'm not sure they can handle it ...
                1. +5
                  6 September 2017 18: 53
                  Zyablitsov, why is our division in Belarus. You have enchanting thoughts like Kovtun, but he is bald, and why do you need this.
                  1. +5
                    6 September 2017 20: 08
                    Out of habit, I think that Belarus, this is Russia - I don’t even think that this is Great Russian chauvinism, but just elementary Justice .... hi
                    1. 0
                      6 September 2017 20: 10
                      We have the same, do you think among our 800 thousand all fighters are great? wassat
                      They have 1,5 regular and constant numbers, we have 800 thousand. They have even more mob potential than ours.
                      1. +1
                        10 September 2017 23: 00
                        Quote: BlackMokona
                        We have the same, do you think among our 800 thousand all fighters are great? wassat
                        They have 1,5 regular and constant numbers, we have 800 thousand. They have even more mob potential than ours.

                        Forget about mobilization readiness. Russia can wage a modern war with NATO only with the use of nuclear weapons. And the transience of such a war puts a very big cross on any readiness. No matter how small it is in time and large in size.
                    2. +4
                      8 September 2017 09: 23
                      What kind of "justice"? They took it out, on! And then they sobered up, started to think, picked up? hi For some, "their guys" needed an offshore, 7 hours away by car. And rode shoals. They divorced the native comprador bourgeoisie, corruption in government. planted the Belarusian leadership previously integrated within the Union of fuel and energy complex on kickbacks, won Grodno-Nitrogen, they say 2/3 of the profit is transferred to Moscow offices .. But right now, give justice to you! .. 82% in the 96th year - Referendum FOR Union with Russia. This is about 6,5 million deceived who are still watching Russian channels! Every week I buy my father’s Moscow “Arguments of the Week” for a dollar so that he ends his life with the feeling of his country!
                      They don’t leave their own little daughter, and if they abandoned it, and grew up themselves, they don’t go to the adult to demand: - I gave birth to you, I raised you, let me put my SUV in your garden and I’ll run with friends and eat vodka ..

                      The only extenuating circumstance you have is the Chechen war, but young age (it’s clear that not everyone has it), and universal fooling!
                      1. +5
                        8 September 2017 10: 29
                        What nonsense have I just read? Who threw you? You yourself were in full g ... and you were helped if possible ... I don’t like it! Go and take independence as much as you like and boldly go to the West, the Slavs and Nezalezhnaya brothers do not worry and live “happily”, they live independently! I, personally, have not abandoned anyone and let me consider what I think ... Belarus can exist, even as an independent state, only in an alliance: military, economic, cultural ..., with Russia and nothing else! hi
                      2. 0
                        8 September 2017 21: 19
                        there Grodno-Nitrogen, they say 2/3 of the profit is transferred to Moscow offices ..


                        so it is necessary on the Maidan against the Russian allegarchs who bought up the root of Belarus wassat

                        all the same, such characters who seek billions and think where and to whom they are going will not be translated. sit discussing the economy and the course of the economic bloc in the government, throwing shit on the fan, writing the word "they say ...". consider billions of Yanukovych, Deripaska and other alegarchs who robbed a specialist financier from the VO forum

                        because of such kitchen experts and their conversations in the kitchens (and in Moscow, the concentration of clowns is high, because Moscow is big - and the release of such characters made it legitimate to break the system. There were a lot of them out there. The country saw that there were many specialists in every city such were) and on the site we have enough such specialists. rollback and corruption counters in the country. they’re sitting here, painting each other how the country was sold, that it’s time to do something



                        it’s correct that before, conversations were sent to the mines for the same. I don’t understand why you weren’t crushed by experts in theft and kickbacks by tanks in 91

                        and I call you specialists so that they don’t ban me. because I can’t eat near you

                        there they are bright faces standing of a conscious civil society of circus actors who counted the state stolen personally from his pocket, hold posters and peer into the bright future of civil war, poverty and devastation

                        such must be really at the mining and processing mines. all of you latent revolutionaries have never brought any benefit to the country. discarded only its development.

                        you interfere with the system. but without a system, one anarchy. because there are many among you who are seething under your shit, take such a step yourself as a bribe or kickback or some other evil, at the first opportunity, justifying it with the presence of a deripaska / yanokuvich and others, thereby legalizing your conscience this step.

            2. +1
              7 September 2017 01: 31
              Quote: Finches
              NATO really has the strength of the entire European theater of war in 200 thousand bayonets!


              Um ... How many sabers are in NATO?
              1. +1
                7 September 2017 10: 14
                You do nothing in vain - in the warehouses and sabers are stored ...
        2. 0
          7 September 2017 12: 30
          here the heads of the townsfolk just do not sober up, they will support the decision of politicians to increase allocations .... for the purchase of SKK products, which the latter need
          there’s just going to be a tantrum - "within walking distance is such power - we need to increase the defense budget"
      2. +1
        6 September 2017 19: 47
        Quote: domokl
        For the West, the problem of logistics is the most insoluble. but we can. And we can quickly ... Let them die

        I would correct - not for the West, but specifically for the United States. Only this western state has military forces comparable in strength (even the "team" of all Europe - a kitten in front of a Russian medical specialist). Well, the inertia force of the bureaucratic machine of NATO. And specifically with regard to logistics, Europeans are better at it. Like the roads. But I emphasize that this is what it was intended to be - until the flywheel of the US Army is untwisted, the Europeans should serve as a lubricant for the tracks of Russian tanks. What are they, however, just glad.
        1. 0
          7 September 2017 13: 13
          Europeans should serve as a lubricant for the tracks of Russian tanks. What are they, however, just glad

          Until these tracks touch them.
      3. 0
        7 September 2017 05: 10
        bridgeheads were captured by battalions, and then armies marched into the breakthrough
    2. +2
      6 September 2017 09: 09
      Yes, the fact of the matter is that we only have been bleating for quite some time ...
    3. +3
      6 September 2017 09: 43
      They are not needed here.
      1. 0
        7 September 2017 07: 19
        who and where is not needed?
        1. +2
          7 September 2017 13: 19
          Well, it’s clear to whom and where "they" are not needed, the Belarusian opposition does not need them, which, like our Russian, are direct agents of the West and slurp from the same feeder.
    4. +1
      7 September 2017 03: 43
      And many more statues of Hitler with Napoleon in different poses of “Sue” on the border to put, that would see where ideas about the “exclusive nation” lead.
    5. +2
      7 September 2017 09: 02
      Zablintsev, the fact that the uterine brothers will not spoil tank helmets will spoil the Bobruisk girls, this is the inevitable cost of "forcing everyone to peace!" laughing But you blurted out about the "tank army". Do you have any idea what this is? Do you have tanks, of course, if you exclude the ceremonial T-34s, and the "enemy" T-64s that are not sawn into needles for the Chinese into three divisions will be typed? lol
      1. 0
        7 September 2017 21: 57
        Quote: Oleg Tolstoy
        Do you have tanks, of course, if you exclude the ceremonial T-34, and the "enemy" T-64 that are not sawn into needles for the Chinese into three divisions will be typed?


        What is the question?
        1 Guards KTA is the year when the formation was completely completed. And the tanks are new. Not a single t-64. In the Sevatstopol Motorized Rifle Regiment, there is only the T-90. 41 thing.
      2. +7
        8 September 2017 16: 39
        the fact that the uterine brothers will not spoil tank helmets will spoil the Bobruisk girls

        Baby talk or crazy nonsense. Few Belarusians are married to Russians? Do you care about "purity of blood"? D.B.
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  2. +6
    6 September 2017 06: 23
    So this is the essence of the Western howl, the troops will return to Russia, these pugs are rejoicing, they say that they made the Russian bear retreat to their den by their barking.
    1. +3
      6 September 2017 09: 12
      And you are absolutely right.
  3. +5
    6 September 2017 06: 49
    It hurts the global idea of ​​exercises for 13 thousand. And in general, why warn so long. Warned for a week spent and all exhale gentlemen.
    1. +3
      6 September 2017 18: 31
      Why should anyone warn of their teachings on their own territory? Lukashenko is right - no need to make excuses, are we not at home? In addition, I would not give anyone from NATO any information about the nature of the exercises and the composition and number of participants, and even more so - I did not invite them for observation. Why this is done - I do not understand.
  4. +7
    6 September 2017 07: 14
    NATO soldier. Lieutenant of the infantry support brigade of the Latvian Armed Forces-Morozov.
    1. +7
      6 September 2017 07: 18
      And they have the whole support team so cute?
      1. +2
        6 September 2017 07: 23
        Quote: Ken71
        And they have the whole support team so cute?

        I assume that the Russians (Russian-speaking) - yes.
      2. +5
        6 September 2017 18: 12
        So MOROZOVA ... because and pretty. Look at (God forgive me) Gribuskayte))))))))))))))
    2. 0
      7 September 2017 13: 17
      Do they have “support” for the military branches?
      What are the most "supported"?
    3. 0
      7 September 2017 16: 04
      Cool ... Screaming, probably - "YES SIR !! NO SIR !!! URAAAA !!!")))
    4. 0
      12 September 2017 18: 07
      And how (with what) support?
  5. +16
    6 September 2017 09: 35
    10 warships !! there are seas in Belarus !!! Psaki right !! laughing good
    1. +2
      6 September 2017 18: 48
      Quote: novel xnumx
      10 warships !! there are seas in Belarus !!! Psaki right !! laughing good

      Well, not quite like that. stop They just fly in Caliber and move on hovercraft bolts wassat
  6. +2
    6 September 2017 09: 36
    Russian troops will use the territory of Belarus to control the Suvalk corridor to cut off the Baltic countries


    I personally think it’s better to capture Šiauliai- the direct road from St. Petersburg to Kaliningrad
  7. +3
    6 September 2017 11: 03
    Russia will send troops, but will not withdraw
    It will not be worse than it is now
    1. +3
      6 September 2017 12: 11
      Do you know how a military optimist differs from a military pessimist?
      The military pessimist believes that there will be no worse, and the military optimist corrects it - it will be, it will be.
  8. +1
    6 September 2017 14: 08
    Crush NATO into one division? Let's calculate how many targets need to be destroyed and how many guns and shells are needed for this. If not enough, then what and how much should be added. In principle, if you give the division enough high-precision missiles and shells, then why not?
    1. +1
      6 September 2017 19: 46
      Quote: also a doctor
      In principle, if you give the division

      If you give the division to help the entire Ministry of Defense, then there will be no impossible tasks!
  9. +10
    6 September 2017 14: 29
    In the West, after the success of the RF Armed Forces in Syria, the mind was clearly clouded with fear.
    1. +1
      6 September 2017 18: 35
      I don’t think so. They do everything according to their plan. They need to knock out loot for armaments from the electorate (of course, most of it will go into their pockets), and also deploy their contingents on the borders of Russia, which they do under the pretext of "fear of terrible Russians."
  10. +8
    6 September 2017 14: 43
    In vain, ours began to destroy the legend concocted in NATO ... it would be better if they said about 300 thousand fighters, 5000 tanks and self-propelled guns, 300 turntables ... 100 ships in the "territorial waters of Belarus" ... and so on. fellow You see, a thread in a neighboring unfriendly territory would have been hit with a fatal outcome, but it would have ended with complete paralysis of the motor parts of the body. All good, no matter how you look. feel
    1. 0
      12 September 2017 18: 09
      Verily !!!
  11. +14
    6 September 2017 15: 03
    Juliusz Sabaka is a significant dog surname.
    Here is what John the Terrible wrote to the Swedish king Johann III (1573)
    "And what did you write barking to us and you want to bark to answer our letter, so it’s for us, great sovereigns, nothing to write except for barking, but writing barking is not appropriate for great sovereigns; we wrote to you not barking but the truth, and sometimes because they wrote so extensively, that if you don’t explain it, you won’t get an answer from you, and if you take a dog’s mouth and want to bark for fun, then this is your servile custom: it’s an honor for you, and we, great sovereigns, and dishonor with you - dishonor, and barking to write to you - even worse, and to overpower with you is worse than that dwells in this world, and if you want to transfuse, then you find yourself the same slave as you are a serf, and transfuse with him. From now on, no matter how much you write barking, we will not give you any answer. "
  12. +10
    6 September 2017 15: 23
    Crumple the main shareholder of NATO laughing
    The world would be cleaner laughing
    1. +1
      6 September 2017 15: 40
      Well, Alaska and California can be left, there the Russian pioneers mastered.
  13. +4
    6 September 2017 17: 28
    This is the collective insanity of the liberals. I can imagine if, more precisely, I don’t even imagine what they would do with Russia by going to power.
    1. +1
      7 September 2017 13: 22
      Remember the 90s and Yeltsinism, you don’t even need to imagine!
  14. +1
    6 September 2017 18: 08
    The old currency hmm. Grybauskaite, let him look into other crevices. But they are worried ... because they feel ... only the fake hair will fly ..... Uncle Sam doesn’t .. harness ... His ass, they always have it closer to the body)))))))))) )))))))))))))))))
  15. 0
    6 September 2017 18: 08
    This "Union State" even has different money, not to mention the absence in the Republic of Belarus of at least some kind of allied actions in relation to the Russian Federation in foreign policy.
    1. 0
      7 September 2017 07: 27
      why does the union state have different money ??? and there and there rubles ...
  16. +7
    6 September 2017 18: 29
    And what will happen next: the maneuvers will end, the troops will return to the points of permanent dislocation, and those conspiracyologists who today are spraying everyone with saliva, trying to "prove" Russia's aggressive intentions during the exercises, quietly close their mouths and, without even bothering to explain why their predictions have burned will begin to look for new reasons to bark in the direction of Russia.

    Yes, I’ll quote their future “explanations” right now:
    1) Russian exercises were closed. The invited correspondents tried to rub points, demonstrating the maneuvers of 13 thousand people, while it is well known that at least 100 thousand people participated in the maneuvers on the Russian side, and we already warned you about this
    2) Only the direct, honest and open position of the NATO countries, speaking in a united front in the information space in condemning the actions of the Russian Federation, was able to make it clear to Putin that his cunning plan was revealed and he was forced to abandon the annexation of Europe.
    3) Today's attack on sacred democratic values ​​is repelled, but we must remain vigilant and believe all the nonsense that we will continue to tell you.
  17. +1
    6 September 2017 18: 57
    Grybauskaite was going to almost personally observe ........

    Representatives of the oldest profession who went into circulation for the exercises are not invited.
  18. +4
    6 September 2017 19: 44
    NATO is a military force controlling the countries of Europe. The formal reason for preserving NATO is the military threat of a commensurate adversary.
    The presence of such an adversary formally entitles puppet governments to control the subordination of an economically impoverished population.

    This is capitalism, with its crises.
  19. +11
    6 September 2017 20: 04
    I propose to refuse all Western observers an invitation with a trace. wording: “In connection with allegations of insufficient transparency of the data of military maneuvers, we dare to assume that either incompetent specialists or people with various visual impairments, hearing impairments and brain impairments will be sent. To ensure the safety of these people, they should be in the military maneuver area exclude. "
    Well, you can add: "Western military observers and media representatives who want to receive an invitation to military maneuvers must provide the following additional documents:
    - certificates from all doctors (optometrist, otolaryngologist, psychotherapist, narcologist, general practitioner, etc.)
    - permission from the Russian anti-doping agency.
    1. 0
      6 September 2017 21: 41
      You need to work in the Foreign Ministry
      Standing applaud. Commentary of the Year Award Nomination
      Good for you!
    2. 0
      7 September 2017 07: 34
      Your position is very tough ... but fair!
    3. 0
      7 September 2017 13: 26
      hi hi hi I applaud!
    4. +2
      7 September 2017 14: 44
      easier to send scientifically so to speak ...
      Type: In order to avoid accidental tragedies and accidents with third-country observers during the exercises in Belarus and in connection with the sufficient development of military-space technologies in the field of search and collection of intelligence, observation and development of computer technology, we offer all NATO observers to use the services satellite intelligence of their countries, in the absence of such an opportunity - to simulate the results and objectives of the exercises on computer clusters. lol
  20. +3
    6 September 2017 20: 11
    So tired of listening to these Polish and Baltic "farts", so much stink from them. Yes, I must say if we need to take them, we’ll take it and put it all together, and Poland and the Baltic States will not get used to standing in this position, the only partner will change from American to Russian.
    1. 0
      7 September 2017 06: 44
      spumartu Yesterday, 20:11
      if you need to take them, take

      no need to take anyone. And do not be indignant. Their (Baltic, Ukraine, Poland) task is to be a mouthpiece in the information war. The United States has not in vain created such an eastern belt of absolutely inadequate and hostile countries. After all, if you look, then none of the countries of Eastern Europe (Bulgaria, Hungary, Romania, Czech Republic) is so hysterical about the "Russian aggression". Are they less threatened by the "Russian hordes moving towards the English Channel"?
  21. 0
    7 September 2017 07: 37
    Quote: il-z
    I propose to refuse all Western observers an invitation with a trace. wording: “In connection with allegations of insufficient transparency of the data of military maneuvers, we dare to assume that either incompetent specialists or people with various visual impairments, hearing impairments and brain impairments will be sent. To ensure the safety of these people, they should be in the military maneuver area exclude. "
    Well, you can add: "Western military observers and media representatives who want to receive an invitation to military maneuvers must provide the following additional documents:
    - certificates from all doctors (optometrist, otolaryngologist, psychotherapist, narcologist, general practitioner, etc.)
    - permission from the Russian anti-doping agency.

    tough, but fair (not quite figured out everything after registration, SIMPLY much easier to read))))
  22. 0
    7 September 2017 08: 08
    And it’s better to create a single army and still bring the matter of the Union State to its logical end, and then we push the crowbar into it ... and let them squeak or howl, whine this thing.
  23. +1
    7 September 2017 10: 17
    The question of justifying oneself is dumbfounded. Why NATO members do not make excuses for the teachings of Baltops, Open Spirit, etc. By Baltops, by the way, they fly B-52 from the continental United States .....
  24. +1
    7 September 2017 13: 10
    Quote: novel xnumx
    10 warships !! there are seas in Belarus !!! Psaki right !!

    If anything, it was in due time - the Pinsk Flotilla.
    1. 0
      8 September 2017 10: 51
      Quote: novel xnumx
      10 warships !! there are seas in Belarus !!! Psaki right !!

      If anything, it was at one time - the Pinsk military flotilla. [/ Quote]

      Her remains: http: //clubsea.rcit.by/flot.htm [quote = kvs
      207

      https://pinsk.eu/news/845/

      Some river ships should, in theory, remain from the USSR in the Pinsk border detachment
  25. 0
    8 September 2017 04: 34
    ... Mother Europe. Europe is not mother, she was a * shechka.
  26. 0
    9 September 2017 00: 08
    Why strain the whole division !! You can crush NATO with one battalion !!

    But I don’t understand one thing. Why it wasn’t done during the USSR request
  27. 0
    9 September 2017 09: 35
    Lukashenko is really right! We must not make excuses to anyone. The West conducts a huge number of exercises on our borders, and not all of these exercises are attended by our observers. On our territory, we must conduct much more exercises than today. And no need to invite anyone, because we are at home. Even more, it is necessary to carry out sudden checks of the combat readiness of the troops, they generally must go constantly. Otherwise, we will get the new year 1941. And to the east of the Volga and especially beyond the Urals, we have the right to conduct exercises with the number of troops and more than 100 thousand. This is no longer Europe and NATO is not concerned at all.
  28. 0
    9 September 2017 11: 25
    Quote: ammunition
    Quote: Finches
    NATO really has the strength of the entire European theater of war in 200 thousand bayonets!


    Um ... How many sabers are in NATO?

    Ten! - Three for the parade, the rest in museums. wink laughing
  29. 0
    9 September 2017 22: 55
    Throwing a large number of armies from overseas is not realistic today. Today is not the time it was 1941 to 45. They forget that Russia has cruise missiles with a range of 4 .500 km, part of the ocean also covers Europe. You won't wake up calmly and not really. Today, rocket artillery covers a distance of 140 km; even at the border with us, the enemy is not comfortable waking up.
  30. 0
    10 September 2017 12: 11
    Quote: Savignon
    Juliusz Sabaka is a significant dog surname.
    Here is what John the Terrible wrote to the Swedish king Johann III (1573)
    "And what did you write barking to us and you want to bark to answer our letter, so it’s for us, great sovereigns, nothing to write except for barking, but writing barking is not appropriate for great sovereigns; we wrote to you not barking but the truth, and sometimes because they wrote so extensively, that if you don’t explain it, you won’t get an answer from you, and if you take a dog’s mouth and want to bark for fun, then this is your servile custom: it’s an honor for you, and we, great sovereigns, and dishonor with you - dishonor, and barking to write to you - even worse, and to overpower with you is worse than that dwells in this world, and if you want to transfuse, then you find yourself the same slave as you are a serf, and transfuse with him. From now on, no matter how much you write barking, we will not give you any answer. "

    That is because they knew how to write "clerks of the ambassadorial order", which is already there for our sprithers. Just a ready-made answer to the Ukrainian serf! And not only him.
  31. 0
    10 September 2017 13: 19
    the same thing is soaping again ... why make excuses? Well, the teachings ... Well, the troops ... Well, bark mongrel, let's not get on four legs and also begin to bark ....
  32. 0
    11 September 2017 11: 20
    As I understand it, NATO troops are purely contract soldiers and there are no training conscripts?
    And the military Schengen will be considered only in October?
    I wonder how the Turkish and British troops will take part in it.
  33. +1
    12 September 2017 15: 37
    it was necessary in Chukotka in the Bering Strait synchronously the exercises of Alaska 2017 to be carried out with the Koreans by Vietnamese .... laughing