Torpedo UGST "Physicist-2" / "Case". Mysterious novelty of the Russian fleet

The Russian defense industry continues to implement new projects in the field of mine and torpedo weapons. Not so long ago, it became known that new results were obtained in this area: following the results of all the necessary tests for armament, a promising torpedo was adopted, known by the code “Case”. However, some of the facts mentioned in the latest reports on this subject may be cause for optimism.

The product "Case" is the newest of the well-known domestic developments in the field of torpedo weapons. According to the available data, the aim of this project was the further improvement of the existing torpedo of the UGST “Physicist”, which was put into service several years ago. In particular, in connection with this new project is also called “Physicist-2”. Work on the new project started in the recent past and eventually led to real results in the form of readiness for adoption.

In March of this year, RIA "News"With reference to unnamed sources in the military-industrial complex wrote about the current successes of the project" Case ". Then it was stated that by that time the new torpedo had time to test. In addition, some of the necessary checks have already been successfully completed. Also, an unnamed source revealed the future plans of the industry and the Ministry of Defense. So, in the foreseeable future, the torpedo "Physicist-2" / "Case" was planned to be adopted. The corresponding order was to appear in the 2018 year.

Torpedo UGST "Physic"

A few months later, on July 12, Izvestia published new reports on the progress of the promising project. From the published data it follows that to date, the industry has managed to complete all the required work. The designer of the torpedo armament of the Research Institute of Marine Heat Engineering, which was developing a new project, Alexander Grigoryev told Izvestia that the torpedo of the UGST “Fizik-2” had already been adopted by the naval fleet Of Russia. Also, the participant in the creation of the torpedo noted that in the future this product will have to replace all existing types of armaments equipped with electric power plants.

Recent reports of the adoption of a torpedo "Case" for use suggest that the tests were completed prematurely - a few months earlier than the indicated dates. As a result, not later than the middle of 2017, the product was put into service, although earlier these events were attributed to the next 2018. Thus, serial products can enter the naval arsenals with a certain advance of the existing graphs.

It is known that the new product "Case" is a modernized version of the older torpedo UGST "Physicist". Recall development work with the cipher "Physicist" started in the mid-eighties; its goal was to create a promising deep-water self-guided thermal torpedo. The head developer was the Scientific and Research Institute of Marine Thermal Engineering, which was to be supported by several other organizations. Experimental products of the UGST were put to the test in the mid-nineties, and at the beginning of the next decade the torpedo was put into service. During this period, the first public demonstration of the new weapons, the venue for which was the International Naval Salon in St. Petersburg.

A few years ago, the institute-developer began to create a modernized version of the existing “Physics”. The new torpedo on the basis of the existing has received the working designation "Physicist-2". In addition, the alternative name "Case" soon appeared. Currently, both designations are used in parallel and do not cause any confusion.

Until a certain time, detailed information about the torpedo "Physicist-2" / "Case" was absent. Only a few months ago some technical data was published. In addition, some publications in the press on the development of torpedo weapons, revealed certain details of the new project. For obvious reasons, the differences from the existing weapons of the base model, as well as the advantages gained in the framework of the new project, were most often mentioned. All the data published so far make it possible to draw up a rather detailed picture in which, however, some “white spots” still remain.

Like all modern domestic torpedoes, the UGST "Case" has a cylindrical body of high elongation with a hemispherical head fairing cut off and a conical tail section, which serves as the basis for the propulsion and steering system. The total length of the product, according to available data, 7,2 m, caliber - 533 mm. The mass of operational torpedoes - 2,2 t.

According to its layout, the torpedo probably repeats the design of the basic "Physics". Recall, the UGST of the first version had a head compartment with homing equipment, behind which the charging and reservoir compartments were sequentially located. The tail section was given for the installation of the engine and actuators of the control system. Apparently, in the new project, the similar architecture of the torpedo did not change and was not finalized.

According to published data, the "Case" is completed with an axial-piston internal combustion engine using single-component fuel. The type of engine and its main characteristics have not yet been announced. It is known that the base "Physicist" had an engine with a power of 350 kW (469 hp), which included a rotating combustion chamber. The fuel was supplied by a high-pressure pump. Tanks for transporting fuel were in the central part of the body. It was proposed to start the engine using the starting powder charge.

The engine shaft passes through the tail section of the hull and is output to the outside, where it is connected to the jet propulsion unit. The impeller of the latter is placed inside the annular channel, which improves performance, simultaneously reducing noise. Next to the annular channel of the water jet are the rudders. A curious feature of the projects of the FGI family of UGSTs is the use of controlled surfaces laid out after exiting the torpedo tube. For greater efficiency, the rudders have a box-like structure with a pair of large planes and a small bridge between them to be output to the stream. This design increases the efficiency of the rudders and to some extent simplifies management.

It is known that the product “Physicist-2” has means of homing, however the type of such a system has not been specified. In this case, there is some information about the control systems of the previous UGST torpedoes. According to the available data, within the framework of the ROC "Physicist", the enterprises of the domestic defense industry created at once two variants of active-passive homing systems, which have certain differences. Together with the homing can be used remote control from the corresponding remote submarine carrier. For the transmission of commands to onboard torpedo systems, a cable placed on two coils is used. One of them is equipped with 25 km of wire and is located inside the torpedo, and towed with 5 km of cable in the transport position is placed near the jet propulsion unit. The third coil can be mounted on board the carrier. With the help of cable and remote control, a torpedo can be displayed in a predetermined area of ​​the intended location of the target, after which search and targeting is assigned to automatic systems.

The homing system “Physics” has a flat nasal receiving-emitting antenna, which includes a large number of individual elements. A torpedo is able to find both the targets themselves and their wake. Automation detects surface ships at distances up to 1,2 km, submarines - up to 2,5 km. Wake track indication time - 350 s. Undermining the warhead is made using a proximity fuse. It works at distances up to several meters from the target.

Behind the head compartment in the case of the torpedo "Case" is a combat charging compartment. The torpedoes of the new family carry a similar charge in the form of an 300 kg explosive. The power of such a fighting compartment is sufficient to inflict the most serious damage to surface ships and enemy submarines. Probably, at the same time with combat torpedoes carrying a powerful explosive charge, products of a practical type can be produced. In this case, the charging compartment must be filled with ballast of the desired mass.

According to the national press, the torpedo UGST “Physicist-2” / “Case” can reach speeds up to 50 nodes (more than 90 km / h) and move at depths up to 400 m. The firing range is up to 50 km. In various publications, it has been repeatedly noted that a promising product exceeds the existing domestic and foreign torpedoes in range. This feature of a new weapon significantly increases the likelihood of successful timely destruction of a target with minimal risks for its carrier.

According to previously published data, the new torpedo "Case" is primarily intended for the armament of modern nuclear submarines of the latest projects. Thus, the multipurpose nuclear submarines of the 885 "Ash" project and strategic cruisers of the 955 "Borey" project can become the first carriers of these weapons. It is possible that in the future such torpedoes will be included in the ammunition of other domestic submarines built on older projects.

Production "Cases" should be deployed at the plant "Dagdizel" in Kaspiysk. According to reports, this company is currently producing products of the UGST "Physic", and in the near future will master the mass assembly of its upgraded version. According to some reports, the launch of mass production of torpedoes "Physicist-2" will lead to a halt in the release of products of the base model. Apparently, such a replacement will not lead to difficulties of a technological or operational nature, but at the same time it will allow a certain extent to increase the potential of submarine forces.

The development of a new version of the self-guided thermal torpedo to replace existing products "Physic" started just a few years ago. To date, torpedo builders managed to complete the design and carry out the necessary tests. According to reports this spring, the checks were successful and allowed to make optimistic estimates. At the same time, however, anonymous sources of domestic media called quite modest plans: a new torpedo was supposed to come into service only next year.

Just a few months after that, one of the authors of the new project said that the torpedo “Physicist-2” had already been adopted by the Russian Navy. Whether mass production has begun has not yet been clarified. Other aspects of the new project are also not disclosed. At the same time, there were reports that the new torpedo will replace the base model's products in production.

The development of domestic mine-torpedo weapons continues and gives definite results. In just a few years, an updated and improved version of the existing FGM “Physicist” product was created, featuring a number of advantages. This torpedo was commissioned not so long ago, and in the near future it will have to go into the arsenals of the Navy and get into ammunition of the newest nuclear submarines.


On the materials of the sites:
http://ria.ru/
http://iz.ru/
http://vpk-news.ru/
http://bastion-opk.ru/
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/

Comments

[Brylevsky]

My God, when will this miracle weapon begin to arrive on the fleet? In 2002, I was training at the Marshal Shaposhnikov BPC, and the BC-3. There, torpedoes 53-65K and SET-65 were used as torpedo weapons, developed in the 60s, with characteristics corresponding to those years ... I recently found out if something has changed or not. No, nothing has changed, the same torpedoes ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: Brylevsky

My God, when will this miracle weapon begin to arrive on the fleet? In 2002, I was training at the Marshal Shaposhnikov BPC, and the BC-3. There, torpedoes 53-65K and SET-65 were used as torpedo weapons, developed in the 60s, with characteristics corresponding to those years ... I recently found out if something has changed or not. No, nothing has changed, the same torpedoes ...

And you’re ridiculous))) “Mid-2017” is almost now, if that, but “Shaposhnikov” now seems to be like, at least a year in repair should be with the unloaded BC.
Who did you call there?

[Rushnairfors]

But what if the ship is being repaired and there is no BK on it, does this prevent you from calling someone from your friends who serves on this BOD and find out how things are, including with torpedo weapons? I did not understand your comment. Gray brother.

[Brylevsky]

Baby, calm down, don’t get so excited ... "Recently" does not mean that it was yesterday. I don’t have to call anywhere, Vladivostok is not such a big city so that those who need it do not know what they need. I want no less than yours, the fleet soon received this long-awaited torpedo, because anti-submariners are still forced to carry SET-65 torpedoes in their torpedo tubes ...

[Gray brother]

Quote: Brylevsky

anti-submariners are still forced to carry the SET-65 torpedo in their torpedo tubes.

They have a “Trumpet”, they need to throw out full-size TAs from there (most likely it will, because the RCCs were going to fix it, as far as I remember) and put a “Package”.

[Brylevsky]

"Bell", "Bell" ... what kind of "Bell" is this? Is it an anti-submarine missile system, or what? Which is installed on the project 11.55 BOD? I also had some kind of Waterfall, I remember ... What can I say ... This bell is used on submarines, it uses the 85-P and 85-RUS missiles (with a special warhead), firing range of about 50 km A solid-propellant rocket carries an aircraft torpedo, drops it at the right point, after which the torpedo begins to search in a spiral at a speed of 25 knots (so as not to disturb itself and make less noise), when it detects a submarine, it goes into attack mode, and the speed increases to 40 knots. .. the boat has little chance, but the torpedo can be fooled, and most likely it will be so in real combat conditions. Therefore, the 85-RUS missile can carry a deep bomb with a nuclear warhead ... an analogue of the American Sabrock, now withdrawn from service with the US Navy. A deep bomb cannot be fooled, because it does not have homing equipment, and a possible miss is compensated by a powerful hydraulic shock, because sea water is much denser than air and the sound spreads in it ... forgot already ... in my opinion, 5 times faster. Also, the 85-R missile can be used in the anti-ship version, in this case a high-explosive warhead with an explosive substance such as a marine mixture and a thermal seeker are used. Why am I telling you all this in such detail? You see, I was taught this about 20 years ago. Since then, a lot of water has flowed, the Americans have not stood still, and the SET-65 and 85-P with the AT-2 torpedo are still part of the armament of anti-submarine ships ... and there are no prospects for replacement.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Brylevsky

You see, I was taught this about 20 years ago. Since then, a lot of water has flowed, the Americans did not stand still,

No one stood still, the modernization of missiles was carried out 10 years ago.

[Brylevsky]

Yes? Curious ... And what did they modernize there? Flight range increased? 120 km? Tell me if you know. And if it's not a military secret.

[Gray brother]

Quote: Brylevsky

And what did they modernize there?

Targeting system - this is official information, no details.

[Brylevsky]

And I, by a sinful thing, thought, they hung a new torpedo, something like a Hummingbird ... If I remember correctly, the rocket is controlled from a ship, there on the upper bridge, above the main command post, there are two specific antennas onboard " In the missile itself, in the tail part, there are two short antennas, one transmitting and the other receiving ... If there is no official information, I can assume that now the missile can be controlled from an anti-submarine / PLO helicopter according to sonar buoys and / or GAS data of one of the ships of the naval search and strike group, which maintains stable contact with the target, but cannot attack it for some reason. But these are just my assumptions. Thanks for the info.

[ShturmKGB]

good article, a direct find for the spy!)

[tezey]

As I understand it, this miracle weapon enters the fleet. Here in the Military Review posted photographs of loading cruise missiles "Caliber" and torpedoes "Case" on the submarine "Novorossiysk" in Sevastopol.

[2534M]

Quote: Theseus

udo weapons

this is to Dr. Goebbels

Quote: Theseus

torpedo "Case"

RAVE

[guerrilla]

We don't need 60 siawulfs and virginia. We need 60 small silent autonomous (anaerobic?) Non-atomic hunters at their sixty by the 30th years.
What are your plans for Lada (Kalina)? I have not heard for a long time.
Or are anaerobic VNEU already out of fashion with the bourgeoisie?

[Großer feldherr]

They weren’t in fashion, it was initially clear that the future is with cheap batteries, which are built from cars to submarines. The Jews have already made an electric passenger plane.

[serverny]

Quote: Guerilla

non-nuclear hunters

Are you contradicting yourself by stupidity, or are you trying to tell a joke consciously?

Non-nuclear submarines can only “hunt” from ambushes, leaving their patrol areas in advance. Real submarine hunters have completely different tasks.

[Monster_Fat]

In general, there is no information in what state it is the mine component of mine-torpedo weapons in Russia and throughout the world. There is no information about new samples of mines adopted by the fleets of different countries and new methods of dealing with them ...

[Großer feldherr]

There is no information, because in NATO all mines have long been written off, and in Russia they are in service purely conditionally. Outdated weapons are gone history.
On the same site they wrote about this, only the Americans produce small lots for sale to the Papuan allies.

[serverny]

But there is information on how the tests of "new" torpedoes were delivered during their acceptance by the Russian Navy - the most hothouse, in obviously simplified conditions. The “physicist” at one time was just so successfully adopted, I doubt that something has changed for the “Case”, because all the same people are sitting in their places in the courts.

[Brylevsky]

In decline ... In decline a mine-torpedo component of the domestic Navy. At least anti-submarine ships ... I wasn’t on the boats, so I won’t talk about them. So, of the torpedoes we have, as I said above, 53-65K, this is anti-ship, and SET-65, this is anti-submarine. The first, albeit already quite old, has an effective homing system along the wake trail, although it is also not without limitations. The second, SET-65, is hopelessly outdated. At least until the leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation takes care of a qualitative improvement in its homing equipment. Well, but the mines ... there are UKSM, UDM, RM-1, RM-2 ... This is what I dealt with personally. In Wikipedia, everything is probably written about them ... although, when I was taught this business, everything was "terribly secret", they even issued a permit ... and then I TTX of these mines in a bookstore, in some book I met ... So far, only mine weapons come to the fleet, but I won’t say anything about it, because I don’t know.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Brylevsky

but I won’t say anything about him, because I don’t know.

Wonderful in its sincerity thought!
But still. A few words on the occasion.
1. Thanks to the author at least for raising the topic. The disease is the same - repetitions of the same thought with paraphrases ... Cyril! Fight this shortcoming when compiling materials from other publications.
2. About practical torpedoes Case. With a disposable heat engine, they will differ from combat only BZO - practical. Well, plus the settings for the depth of travel, so that you don’t star up for the Goal (do not drive under the screws, for example, or stick into the case).
3. Interestingly, is it 2's fast or single !? Author - answer ...
4. What about the cable etching hose device?
5. And how the “fired - forgot” installation was implemented (True, some naval commanders considered the “fired - scored." But then the SET -80 was ...)
6. About mine weapons. It is as secret as nuclear. Because it has a number of extraordinary tactical properties - from remote control to programming in time, goals and methods of operation ... Therefore, you will not read anything significant about it in the open press. And what the press writes about is not even yesterday, but the day before yesterday of mine-torpedo weapons. Self-moving (self-transporting) products from this pride are the most closed topic.
7. Now the focus is shifted to digital methods of processing weak G / A signals, highlighting them on the background (white noise) of the natural noise of the sea; increasing the sensitivity of the 1 torpedo device and brain mini-miniaturization (RFC torpedoes). The throwing speed is good, but as for the search for the given hydrology of the sea, the matter is very complicated, and the carrier must calculate it, then enter it into the PUTS-TO.
They worked on this in the zero years ... Much has been decided, much remains to be decided. We wish our KULIBIN GOOD LUCK in this puzzle game!
IMHO.

[Curious]

How do they rewrite each other? The military-industrial complex, referring to the same Izvestia, gives 60 knots a speed and 500 m of maximum launch depth. It would seem that there is a printed organ of the Russian Military Review. Has anyone ever found links to it somewhere? I - not once. Either an unnamed source, or a Tape. Ru, then the Messenger of Mordovia. One gets the impression that the task is to maintain confidence among the population that someone is doing something somewhere. But if it turns out that he doesn’t, we don’t. What demand from Mordovia?

[Vladimir SHajkin]

It’s good if it’s good, and if something is wrong, then it is because, but if it is not so, it will be so. Anatya, that was when, then it happened, and tapericha and horseradish with him. So I am about the same.

[2534M]

Quote: Brylevsky

My God, when will this miracle weapon begin to arrive on the fleet?

briefly - the article LIES, Ryabov, as always in the Ugar

[2534M]

Quote: Gray Brother

And you're funny)))

people said as is, and this was officially announced (on the same Army-15)

[2534M]

Quote: Gray Brother

They have a "bell"

it seems to you that way;)
the presence of a “box” does not mean that it is not empty

Quote: Gray Brother

TA full-size generally need to be thrown out of there (most likely it will be, because the RCCs were going to fix it, as far as I remember) and put the "Package".

Yes exactly
only nobody is going to do it like that
explain why - because Ufaley needs to push his shit to the fleet

[2534M]

Quote: Gray Brother

No one stood still, the modernization of missiles was carried out 10 years ago.

this “modernization” was invented by Izvestia (who, as usual, didn’t even read the tender documents)

[2534M]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

1. Thanks to the author at least for raising the topic

it would be better not to raise
article stupid bang and persian nonsense and lies

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

2. About practical torpedoes Case. With a disposable heat engine, they will differ from combat only BZO - practical. Well, plus the settings for the depth of travel, so that you don’t star up for the Goal (do not drive under the screws, for example, or stick into the case).

it is laid otherwise
although the question of when the physicist is hammering on purpose is only a matter of time
patamu
personally, I'm waiting with anticipation :)

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

3. Interestingly, is it 2's fast or single !? Author - answer ...

the author is only able to smack nonsense
and the answer is in the tender documentation for RI 2534
and unexpected;)

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

4. What about the cable etching hose device?

was in the "preliminary drawings"
but floated :(

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

6. About mine weapons. It is as secret as nuclear. For it has a number of extraordinary tactical properties - from telecontrol to programming in time, goals and methods of operation ...

there is nothing particularly secret (except for "pouting cheeks and bulging eyes" is not)
what we have - at the level of 60s-70s
see the same Hydra stands at MVMS-17
the fact that the “orange” one was at the bottom ordered them in the early 2000s, they received, spat and did it themselves - that is 2 generations higher than what we have

[Boa kaa]

Quote: 2534M

article stupid bang and persian nonsense and lies

Well, if you are so deeply informed on this topic, you could at least offer something to the public, instead of typing shit in your mouth to spit around!
And the second one. You should not comment on the posts of comrades, if you do not object to the merits. And it is desirable to reduce nihilism ...

[General D]

Good evening. Not a specialist in military affairs. But my view on the future armament of submarines is as follows: the torpedoes are fencing in constant mode around the submarines with artificial intelligence, with the possibility of returning to the carrier for refueling and maintenance. A sort of underwater aircraft carrier. Just imagine, the boat along the perimeter is protected for one hundred or two hundred kilometers, with its autonomous, reusable torpedoes. The whole question is in the engine of this Wonder Wafer.

[Brylevsky]

Good evening. An interesting idea ... Underwater guided (and autonomous) military robots are there now, but they are mostly tied to surface ships and are actively used to search and destroy sea minefields by the most technically advanced fleets. I can assume that submarines can also have self-propelled reconnaissance systems in the dimensions of a torpedo tube. But I didn’t hear that these means of underwater reconnaissance returned to the carrier after completing the task ... Wouldn’t it be cheaper to “sweep” the sea with a large number of gliders with the corresponding reconnaissance means on board? Technically, this is quite possible to do even now. How to arrange a communication channel between a submarine (or a coastal center, or an anti-submarine plane / helicopter)? I am not a specialist in underwater communications ... In my opinion, a disposable underwater glider with a limited lifespan will be much cheaper than its long-lived "competitor" that you proposed. Again, routine maintenance is not required, naval specialists are so overloaded. Hydroacoustic buoys, as far as I know, are also disposable, and nothing, everyone is happy ... These are thoughts without thinking.

[barbiturate]

Hmm, when you read experts like in forums, it becomes sad, many advocate for the development of the submarine fleet, they say only here we have a chance, but what are these submarines armed with? I’ll copy a bit here:


"The state of the Navy's torpedo weapons by the beginning of the 90s
The fact that at that time the Russian fleet was significantly inferior to the probable enemy in this type of weapon was clear.
Even without an in-depth analysis of the comparative performance characteristics, it is known that the first universal modification of the US Navy torpedo, the Mk-48 of the first modifications, had a very advanced homing system (CCH), remote control homing, speed of 55 knots (our USET-80 had “over 45 knots”). The range was over 18 km and could be significantly increased (over 30 km) when moving the Mk-48 at a lower speed. The torpedo had three driving modes, including low noise - 28 knots. And most importantly, the Mk-48 volley position was much larger than that of domestic 53 cm caliber torpedoes. At the beginning of the 90s, we had a "zoo" of various types of torpedoes with insufficient performance characteristics, most of which were without remote control and had a limited purpose. \
In service with the Navy consisted of the following models of caliber 53 cm:
• universal USET-80 (as already noted, in comparison with the Mk-48 with significantly worse performance characteristics);
• anti-submarine SET-65 (speed 40 knots per 15 km) - serial purchases and the preservation of this obsolete torpedo in service were due to problems with the USET-804;
• anti-submarine TEST-71M - a remote-controlled version of the same SET-65;
• anti-ship 53-65K (speed 43 knots per 19 km), outdated and having extremely insufficient effective salvo distances;
• anti-ship SAET-60M (42 knots per 12 km) - passive SSN with short salvo distances.

The U.S. Navy adopted a unified universal torpedo Mk-1971 back in 48, replaced all previous models with it and subsequently had one type of heavy torpedo (53 cm caliber), which has been improved to date.
During the modernization of the Mk-48, its separation from 53 cm naval torpedoes increased even more. This was the reason for the development in 1986 of our analogue of the Mk-48, the “Physicist” thermal torpedo on unitary fuel. ”


As I understand it, at present nothing has changed since the beginning of the 90s, and the Physicist has been developed and developed since 1986 - 30+ years, hmm ...

[Brylevsky]

Sorry, you're right. In torpedo weapons, we are always a few steps behind the Americans ... always forced to catch up. A teacher in one of the disciplines of torpedo weapons, captain of the third rank Sushkov, either told a bike or anecdote: “When Admiral Gorshkov was shown the American torpedo MK.46, he looked at her and said,“ What would we have the same ! ". And this is the essence of the state’s policy regarding our torpedo armaments. Of course, this is absolutely not normal, but you cannot always be the first everywhere. Maybe in some ways we are seriously ahead of the Americans.

[2534M]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Well, if you are so deeply informed on this topic, you could at least offer something to the public, instead of typing shit in your mouth to spit around!

For a long time everything lies. Including and here.
For example
Shooting at sea and bases. The latest submarines of the Russian Navy are equipped with obsolete weapons and self-defense equipment.
https://vpk.name/news/179655_rasstrel_v_more_i_ba
zah_noveishie_podvodnyie_lodki__vmf_rossii_vooruz
hayut_ustarevshim_oruzhiem_i_sredstvami_samoobor
onyi.html
Russian marine underwater weapons today and tomorrow. Will there be a breakthrough from the “torpedo crisis”?
https://vpk.name/news/141427_morskoe_podvodnoe_or
uzhie_rossii_segodnya_i_zavtra_sostoitsya_li_pror
yiv_iz_torpednogo_krizisa.html
On the appearance of modern submarine torpedoes
http://arsenal-otechestva.ru/article/411-modern-t
orpedoes
https://vpk.name/news/132795_ob_oblike_sovremenny
ih_torped_podvodnyih_lodok.html
Will the Ichthyosaurus Fleet Receive?
https://vpk.name/news/141623_poluchit_li_flot_iht
iozavr.html
etc.
And the author of the discussed "creative" typed shit in his mouth;)

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And the second one. Do not comment on the posts of comrades, if you do not mind essentially

see my posts here (mina), the Courage forum (Navy torpedoes (1 and 2)), etc.

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

And it is desirable to reduce nihilism ...

I was the direct executor of the document, which gave the series to the practically strangled Physics (for the money 2 nailed "sawn" OCD)
only after my application to the GWP did REAL work on the “Case” begin
enough?

[barbiturate]

You better not swear guys (Boa KAA and 2534M), besides you, perhaps there are no specialists at the forum on mine-torpedo armament of our Navy, especially its current state.
It would be better to write an article, just on the current situation in 2017 with the development of torpedoes, for example, the same Case)

[2534M]

Quote: barbiturate

It would be better if they wrote an article, just on the actual for 2017

see the links above?
including on April 2017 article

[barbiturate]

Thank you, I read everything, interesting and sad. Apparently, this mess and direct betrayal cannot be defeated, we are building targets, not boats. Equipping the 636th on the Black Sea Fleet in general as natural wrecking. Ah Putin, what a mess in your country ...

[DJGANS]

The article is just an example of modern journalism, and if you add a little more and - a scientific work, the 1st volume ... 99% of guesses and constant "self-repetition". Nobody can withstand so much "water" to read to the end ...