"The Hypericum" - the storm "Tigers" and "Panther"

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The State Defense Committee Decree No. 4043ss of 4 September 1943 ordered the Experimental Plant No. 100 in Chelyabinsk, together with the technical department of the Main Armored Directorate of the Red Army until November 1 1943, to design, manufacture and test the EC-152 artillery system IC-XNUMX on the base tank IP. Its immediate predecessor is the self-propelled gun SU-152 (KB-14), which was based on the KV-1s tank.

The SU-152 self-propelled gun, adopted by 14 in February of 1943, was in mass production before the start of the 1944. The appearance of these cars in the battle of Kursk was an unpleasant surprise for the Germans. A massive 152-mm armor-piercing projectile (48,8 kg), fired from a direct shot of 700 – 750 m, yanked off the tower from the Tiger. It was then that the heavy artillery firemen received the respectful nickname of “St. John's wort” from the soldiers.

It goes without saying that the military wanted to have a similar self-propelled gun on the basis of a new heavy tank, especially since the KV-1 was removed from production.

"The Hypericum" - the storm "Tigers" and "Panther"
The Soviet experimental SAU ISU-152-1 (ISU-152BM with 152-mm gun BL-8 / MBO-43, released in a single copy) in the courtyard of the plant number XXUMX in Chelyabinsk


The layout of the ACS EC-152 (241 object), later called ICS-152, did not differ in fundamental innovations. Armored cabin, made of rolled sheets, was installed in the front of the hull, combining control and combat compartments into one volume. The thickness of its frontal armor was greater than that of SU-152: 60 – 90 mm against 60 – 75.

The ML-20 howitzer gun, caliber 152 mm, was mounted in a cast frame, which played the role of an upper machine tool, and was protected by the cast armor mask borrowed from the SU-152. The swinging part of the self-propelled howitzer-gun had minor differences compared to the field: a folding tray was installed to facilitate loading and a guard with a trigger, the handles of the flywheels of the lifting and turning mechanisms were at the gunner’s left along the car, the trunnions were moved forward for natural balancing.

The ammunition consisted of separate loading 20 shots, half of which were BR-545 armored-piercing shells weighing 48,78 kg, and half of high-explosive fragmentation cannon grenades OF-545 weighing 43,56 kg. For direct-fire shooting, a CT-10 telescopic sight served; for shooting from closed positions, a panoramic sight with an independent or semi-independent line of sight from a field howitzer ML-20. The maximum angle of elevation of the instrument was + 20 °, the declination is -3 °. At a distance of 1000 m armor-piercing projectile pierced 123-mm armor.

Projections ISU-152, 1944


On the part of the machines on the antiaircraft turret of the commander's hatch was installed 12,7-mm machine gun DShK sample 1938 of the year.

The power plant and transmission were borrowed from the EC-2 tank and included an 12-cylinder four-stroke uncompressed liquid-cooled diesel engine B-2IS (B-2-10) hp 520. at 2000 rpm., multidisk main friction clutch for dry friction (steel on ferrodo), 4-chassis eight-speed gearbox with a multi-speed multiplexer, two-stage planetary rotation mechanisms with interlocking clutches and two-stage side gears with a planetary row.

The chassis of the ACS in relation to one side consisted of six twin cast support rollers with a diameter of 550 mm and three supporting rollers. The rear wheel drive wheels had two detachable gear rims with 14 teeth each. The directing wheels - cast, with the crank mechanism of a tension of caterpillars.

Assembling ACS ISU-152 at a Soviet factory. ML-20 howitzer gun caliber 152,4 mm mounted in a frame on the armor, which will then be installed in the armored cabin of a combat vehicle


Suspension - individual torsion bar.

Caterpillars are steel, fine-molded, of single-ridge tracks from 86 each. Stamping tracks, 650 mm width and 162 mm pitch. Pinch gear.

The combat weight of ISU-152 was 46 t.

The maximum speed reached 35 km / h, power reserve - 220 km. The machines installed radio stations YUR or 10РК and intercom system TPU-4-bisF.

The crew included five people: the commander, gunner, loader, castle and driver-mechanic.

Already at the beginning of 1944, the release of ISU-152 began to be held back by the lack of ML-20 guns. To get out of this situation, at the artillery plant number 9 in Sverdlovsk, a barrel of 122-mm cannon A-19 was applied to the cradle of the ML-20С gun and as a result received a heavy artillery missile ICU-122 (242 object), due to the greater initial speed of the armor-piercing projectile - 781 m / s - was an even more effective anti-tank vehicle than MIS-152. Machine ammunition increased to 30 shots.

Soviet soldier shoots at the site from a large-caliber anti-aircraft 12,7-mm DShK machine gun installed on the ACS IMS-152


Soviet ACS ISU-122 on the march. 1-th Ukrainian Front, 1945 year


From the second half of 1944, on some ISU-122, they began to install the D-25С gun with a wedge semi-automatic shutter and a muzzle brake. These machines received the designation ISU-122-2 (249 object) or ISU-122C. They differed in the design of recoil devices, cradles and a number of other elements, in particular, the new cast mask 120 – 150 mm thick. Gun sights - telescopic TSH-17 and Hertz panorama. The convenient location of the crew in the combat compartment and the semi-automatic guns contributed to an increase in the rate of fire to 3 – 4 rds / min, compared to the 2 rds / min on the EC-2 and SAU IMS-122.

From 1944 to 1947, 2790 self-propelled units MIS-152, 1735 - MIS-122 and 675 - MIS-122C were manufactured. Thus, the total production of heavy artillery ships - 5200 units - exceeded the number of manufactured heavy tanks of the IC - 4499 units. It should be noted that, as in the case of the EC-2, the Leningrad Kirov Plant should be connected to the production of self-propelled guns at its base. Before 9 in May 1945, the first five ISU-152 were collected there, and by the end of the year - another hundred. In 1946 and 1947, production of MIS-152 was carried out only at LKZ.

Since the spring of 1944, the SU-152 heavy self-propelled artillery regiments were reequipped with the ISU-152 and ISU-122 installations. They were transferred to new states and were given the title of Guards to everyone. In total, until the end of the war, 56 of such regiments was formed, each had an 21 XIS-152 machine or an ISU-122 machine (some of these regiments had a mixed composition of machines). In March, the 1945 of the 66 th Guards Heavy Self-Propelled Artillery Brigade of the Three-Shelf Regiment (1804 Man, 65 ISU-122, ZSU-76) was formed.

Soviet ACS ISU-122С is fighting in Königsberg. 3 Belorussian Front, April 1945 of the year


Soviet ACS ISU-152 in original winter camouflage with a landing force on armor


Heavy self-propelled artillery regiments attached to tank and rifle units and formations were primarily used to support infantry and tanks in the offensive. Following in their battle formations, the self-propelled guns destroyed the enemy firing points and ensured successful advance for the infantry and tanks. In this phase of the offensive ACS became one of the main means of repelling tank counterattacks. In a number of cases, they had to push forward the combat formations of their troops and take a hit, thereby ensuring the freedom of maneuver of supported tanks.

For example, 15 in January 1945 of the year in East Prussia, in the Borov area, the Germans used up to one motorized infantry regiment with the support of tanks and self-propelled guns to counterattack the battle formations of our advancing infantry, with which the 390 Guards heavy self-propelled artillery regiment operated. The infantry, under pressure from superior enemy forces, retreated to the battle formations of the self-propelled guns, who were hit by Germans with concentrated fire and covered the supported units. The counterattack was repulsed, and the infantry again had the opportunity to continue their offensive.

Heavy SPGs were sometimes involved in artillery preparation. At the same time, the fire was conducted both in direct fire and from closed positions. In particular, on January 12, 1945, during the Sandomierz-Silesian operation, the 368 Guards regiment of the ISU-152 1-th Ukrainian Front fired at the enemy’s 107 minutes for four minutes and four enemy artillery and mortar batteries. After releasing 980 shells, the regiment put down two mortar batteries, destroyed eight guns and up to one battalion of enemy soldiers and officers. It is interesting to note that the additional ammunition was laid out in advance at the firing positions, however, primarily the shells used in combat vehicles were spent, otherwise the rate of fire would be significantly reduced. For the subsequent replenishment of heavy self-propelled projectiles took up to 40 minutes, so they stopped firing in advance of the attack.

Soviet tankers and infantry on the ACS IMS-152. In the album it is signed: "Our boys on the ACS pry on the front line"


Very effectively heavy SPGs were used in the fight against enemy tanks. For example, in the Berlin operation 19 on April, the 360 th Guards Heavy Self-Propelled Artillery Regiment supported the offensive of the 388 Rifle Division. Part of the division captured one of the groves east of Lichtenberg, where they entrenched themselves. The next day, with the support of 15 tanks, the enemy began to counterattack with up to one infantry regiment. When repelling attacks during the day, 10 of German tanks and up to 300 soldiers and officers were destroyed by heavy SAU fire.

During the East Prussian operation, the 378 th guards heavy self-propelled artillery regiment successfully used the formation of the battle order of the regiment in the battles on the Zemland peninsula during the East Prussian operation. This provided the regiment with shelling in the 180 ° sector and more and made it easier to fight enemy tanks attacking from different directions.

Units of the Soviet heavy self-propelled artillery regiment at the crossing of the river Spree. Right ACS ISU-152


One of the ISU-152 batteries, having built its battle formation with a fan on the front with a length of 250 m, successfully repulsed 7 on April 1945, a counter attack of 30 enemy tanks, knocking out six of them. Battery loss is not suffered. Only two cars received minor damage to the chassis.

Back in December, 1943 of the year, given that in the future the enemy could have new tanks with more powerful armor, the State Special Forces ordered to design and manufacture self-propelled artillery units with increased power by April 1944:

• with an 122-mm gun, which has an initial speed of 1000 m / s with a projectile mass in 25 kg;

• with an 130-mm gun, which has an initial speed of 900 m / s with a projectile mass in 33.4 kg;

• with an 152-mm gun, which has an initial speed of 880 m / s with a projectile mass in 43.5 kg.

All these guns pierced armor 200 mm thick at a distance of 1500 – 2000 m.

During the execution of this decree, the artillery strips were developed and tested in 1944 – 1945: MIS-122-1 (243 object) with a 122-mm gun BL-9, MIS-122-3 (251 object) with an 122-mm gun 26-1, ISU-130 (250 object) with 130-mm C-26 gun; MIS-152-1 (246 object) with 152-mm gun BL-8 and MIS-152-2 (247 object) with 152-mm gun BL-10.

Crew ISU-152 on vacation. Germany, 1945 g


The C-26 and C-26-1 guns were designed at TsACB under the direction of V.Grabin, while the C-26-1 differed from the C-26 only in the caliber of the pipe. The 26 mm C-130 cannon had ballistics and ammunition from the B-13 naval cannon, but it had a number of fundamental design differences, as it was equipped with a muzzle brake, a horizontal wedge, etc. The IMS-130 and IMS-122-1 movers were manufactured at the factory No. 100, and they passed the tests from 30 June to 4 August 1945. Later, the tests continued, but both SAUs were not put into service and were not launched into the series.

The guns BL-8, BL-9 and BL-10 developed OKB-172 (not to be confused with the plant number 172), all the designers of which were prisoners. The first prototype BL-9 was manufactured in May at 1944 of the year at plant No. 172, and in June it was installed on ISU-122-1. Its field tests were carried out in September 1944, and the state tests in May 1945. At the last when shooting there was a rupture of the trunk due to metal defects. The BL-8 and BL-10 X-guns of the 15 mm caliber had ballistics substantially exceeding those of the ML-20, and were tested in the 1944 year.

Self-propelled guns with prototypes of guns were characterized by the same drawbacks as the rest of the ACS on the IC chassis: a large forward flight of the barrel, which reduced maneuverability in narrow aisles; small angles of horizontal guidance of the gun and the complexity of its guidance, which made it difficult to shoot at mobile targets; low combat rate of fire due to the relatively small size of the fighting compartment, a large mass of shots, separate-cartridge loading and the presence of a number of guns piston bolt; poor visibility of the cars; small ammunition and the complexity of its replenishment during the battle.

At the same time, a good counter-shear resistance of the hull and cabin of these self-propelled guns, achieved by installing powerful armor plates at rational tilt angles, made it possible to use them at a distance of a direct shot and quite effectively hit any targets.




The ISU-152 self-propelled artillery mounts were in service with the Soviet Army until the end of the 70-s, up to the beginning of the arrival of the new-generation ACS. At the same time, ISU-152 was upgraded twice. The first time in 1956 was when SAU received the designation IMS-152K. On the roof of the cabin, a commander's tower was installed with a TPKU device and seven viewing blocks of TYPE; the ammunition of the ML-20 howitzer gun was increased to 30 shots, which required a change in the location of the internal equipment of the combat compartment and additional ammunition packs; instead of the ST-10 sight, the PS-10 advanced telescopic sight was installed. All machines mounted anti-aircraft machine gun DShKM with 300 ammunition ammunition.

On the ACS, the B-54K engine was installed with the HP 520 power. with ejection cooling system. The capacity of the fuel tanks increased to 1280l. The lubrication system was improved, the design of radiators became different. In connection with the ejection cooling system of the engine, the mounting of the external fuel tanks was also changed.

Machines equipped with radio stations 10-RTiTPU-47.

The mass of self-propelled guns increased to 47,2 t, but the dynamic characteristics remained the same. Power reserve increased 360 km.

The second version of the modernization had the designation ISU-152M. The machine was equipped with modified units of the IS-2М tank, a DShKM anti-aircraft machine gun with 250 ammunition ammunition and night vision devices.

During the overhaul, self-propelled guns ISU-122 were subjected to some alterations. So, since 1958, full-time radio stations and TPUs have been replaced with Granat radio stations and P-120 TPU.

In addition to the Soviet Army, ISU-152 and ISU-122 were in service with the Polish Army. As part of the 13 and 25 regiments of self-propelled artillery, they took part in the final battles of 1945. Soon after the war, the Czechoslovak People's Army received ISU-152. At the beginning of the 60, one regiment of the Egyptian army also had ISU-152 in service.
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  1. +6
    28 February 2013 08: 48
    "St. John's wort" in my opinion is the best car of this plan in WWII.
  2. avt
    +6
    28 February 2013 09: 29
    Weapon of Victory, that’s all said.
  3. +10
    28 February 2013 10: 27
    There are facts that the armor-piercing - subcaliber projectile from St. John's wort did not just fly through the entire engine compartment, breaking through the main most protected part of the German tanks "Tiger" and "Panther". good
    1. xan
      +2
      28 February 2013 10: 35
      Predator-74,
      Of course, such a chip flies.
      however, it is not the best against tanks, the rate of fire of the gun and armor is not enough
    2. +4
      28 February 2013 15: 07
      Quote: Predator-74
      the caliber projectile from St. John's wort was not just about to take off

      It would be interesting if you honestly just look at the CALIBRATION for 152 mm howitzers.

      And there were enough secondary armor-piercing and high-explosive ones.
      1. +1
        28 February 2013 15: 18
        Not quite enough. Armor-piercing had to be modified to prevent rebounds
        1. 0
          28 February 2013 15: 37
          Not up to date on the modernization of the BR 540 and 540B
          1. +2
            28 February 2013 16: 03


            "C" - dull-headed, "D" - sharp-headed
            1. 0
              28 February 2013 16: 41
              Quote: Spade
              "C" - dull-headed, "D" - sharp-headed

              And? What year of adoption?
              1. 0
                28 February 2013 21: 33
                It seems to be adopted at the end of 1944.
                1. +1
                  28 February 2013 22: 09
                  Quote: Spade
                  It seems to be adopted at the end of 1944

                  This means that somewhere in the beginning of 45 I got masoovoe distribution. And by the way, the most that you can eat is an ordinary armor-piercing shell
                  And dumbheads with index B are in the nomenclature of BS-3 and A-19, or was they also lacking?
                  1. bask
                    0
                    28 February 2013 23: 19
                    Quote: Kars

                    And dumbheads with index B are in the nomenclature of BS-3 and A-19, or was they also lacking?

                    Now the RF Armed Forces lack such armored vehicles. An assault gun like 152 mm and mounted on a platform, T-72, T-80. Many problems could be solved during the assault on cities and fortified areas .. ISU-152 first of all proved to be an assault gun.When storming cities and fortified areas. 125 mm MBT cannon does not cope with well-fortified firing points. Caliber is not less than 152 mm. The self-propelled guns have anti-fragmentation armor. She can hold MBT directly in battle. Direct fire.
                    1. 0
                      28 February 2013 23: 31
                      Quote: bask
                      .Caliber not less than 152 mm.

                      ___________290 mm
                    2. 0
                      28 February 2013 23: 43
                      I think the creation of self-propelled assault guns is currently redundant.

                      Now a fighter with a laser rangefinder-target designator has comparable, if not greater efficiency.
                      1. 0
                        28 February 2013 23: 49
                        Quote: Spade
                        I think the creation of self-propelled assault guns is currently redundant

                        I personally propose an increase in the caliber of the MBT gun.
                        Quote: Spade
                        Now a fighter with a laser rangefinder-target designator has comparable, if not greater efficiency

                        Well, in residential development it’s quite difficult. Aviation is expensive, and can be shot down if not with long-range Very expensive ammunition.

                        Self-propelled guns are cheaper, but at large distances a large angle of incidence, which is not particularly good in multi-storey buildings. Yes, and laser detectors have already appeared a long time ago. As well as smoke, aerosols.
                      2. +1
                        28 February 2013 23: 59
                        Laser detector in buildings? Well, let them try to escape in the few seconds that go into the correction of a flying 240 mm mine.

                        The "daredevil" in the city is better than any assault weapon.

                        An increase in the caliber of the MBT cannon is acceptable. Creating a specialized 152-mm self-propelled assault is redundant. ATGMs and guided missiles will perfectly cope with the tasks that are on the pc. gun can be assigned
                      3. +1
                        1 March 2013 00: 04
                        Quote: Spade
                        Laser detector in buildings?

                        Why the buildings? The snipers, the tank hidden by the building.
                        Quote: Spade
                        The increase in caliber guns MBT- acceptable

                        And who is easy now?
                        Quote: Spade
                        ATGMs and guided missiles will perfectly cope with the tasks that are on the pc. gun can be assigned

                        If Israel had managed for a long time, the Merkavs would have let them go, Yes, and the Yankes Abrashi would not have brought Baghdad

                        Quote: Spade
                        The "daredevil" in the city is better than any assault weapon.

                        The daredevil is certainly cool, no doubt. But it can also be quite vulnerable especially in the city.
                      4. +1
                        1 March 2013 00: 14
                        Quote: Kars
                        Why the buildings? The snipers, the tank hidden by the building.

                        Will not help. The first microimpulse for measuring range is through the building. The sensor is unlikely to even work.
                        Well, when the backlight starts, it will be too late. The falling mine is already 400-800 meters above the head.

                        Quote: Kars
                        If Israel had managed for a long time, the Merkavs would have let them go, Yes, and the Yankes Abrashi would not have brought Baghdad

                        Do not confuse a tank and a specialized assault gun.


                        Quote: Kars
                        The daredevil is certainly cool, no doubt. But it can also be quite vulnerable especially in the city.


                        He lives in the rear. Firing range allows.
                      5. 0
                        1 March 2013 00: 48
                        Quote: Spade
                        The first microimpulse for measuring range is through the building. The sensor is unlikely to even work.
                        Well, when the backlight starts, it will be too late

                        Most likely it will work, and for whom is it late? For the corrector? With a bullet in the forehead?
                        Quote: Spade
                        Do not confuse a tank and a specialized assault gun

                        And what to confuse them --- MBT is just what it is. Now will we recall a 105 mm Rod?
                        Quote: Spade
                        He lives in the rear. Firing range allows

                        Not always in the rear, especially if they were planning to storm the city. And why can't the enemy have artillery as well?
                      6. +2
                        1 March 2013 01: 06
                        Quote: Kars
                        Most likely it will work, and for whom is it late? For the corrector? With a bullet in the forehead?

                        There are remotely controlled LCDs, there are periscopic ones. Possible backlight from the drone. All this is easily solved.

                        Quote: Kars
                        And what to confuse them --- MBT is just what it is. Now will we recall a 105 mm Rod?

                        Stop. This is not just about MBT, but about an additional assault gun.

                        Quote: Kars
                        Not always in the rear, especially if they were planning to storm the city. And why can't the enemy have artillery as well?


                        The city to storm, this does not mean to drive artillery into its streets. Well, a stranger, amid a multitude of firing guns, it is difficult to detect single guided shells and mines. In addition, a tank or a self-propelled assault gun on the streets of the city is much more vulnerable.
                      7. 0
                        1 March 2013 01: 15
                        Quote: Spade
                        There are remotely controlled LCDs, there are periscopic ones. Possible backlight from the drone. All this is easily solved.

                        Isn’t it so easy right? Isn’t it that drones do not interfere, the distance vehicles are not jammed, the enemy infantryman cannot hide them?
                        Quote: Spade
                        Stop. This is not just about MBT, but about an additional assault gun.

                        No stop. Now it is inseparable. Can you recall the ISU-122 and the caliber of modern tanks?
                        Quote: Spade
                        The city to storm, this does not mean to drive artillery into its streets.

                        what then did the B-4 fight on the streets of Berlin? And from far away with a mortar in the city it’s very difficult to get to the right points, and all the advantages are lost in front of the same PIT or Paladin (except for the weight of the BB, of course)
                        Quote: Spade
                        single guided missiles and mines difficult to detect.

                        Zoo? Or its American counterpart?
                        Quote: Spade
                        In addition, a tank or a self-propelled assault gun on the streets of the city is much more vulnerable.
                        It’s not even a fact
                      8. 0
                        1 March 2013 01: 28
                        Quote: Kars
                        Isn’t it so easy right? Isn’t it that drones do not interfere, the distance vehicles are not jammed, the enemy infantryman cannot hide them?

                        And the tank on the streets is invulnerable and invisible?


                        Quote: Kars
                        No stop. Now it is inseparable. Can you recall the ISU-122 and the caliber of modern tanks?

                        Inseparable? No questions. Do you think that there is no need for MBTs, is it enough to install a 2C3 gun on the T-72 base and do this?

                        Quote: Kars
                        what then did the B-4 go on in the streets of Berlin?

                        Probably due to the absence of guided and adjustable shells at that time? Or was their shaft in the army already?


                        Quote: Kars
                        And from far away with a mortar in the city it’s very difficult to get to the right points, and all the advantages are lost in front of the same BRIDGE or Paladin (except for the weight of the explosive, of course)

                        Why? Same. But at the same time, more mounted trajectories are available to the mortar.


                        Quote: Kars
                        Zoo? Or its American counterpart?

                        And they too. They do not know how to distinguish between ordinary and managed


                        Quote: Kars
                        It’s not even a fact

                        With the saturation of modern infantry with anti-tank weapons? Fact.
                      9. 0
                        1 March 2013 01: 41
                        Quote: Spade
                        And the tank on the streets is invulnerable and invisible?

                        Everything is vulnerable. But the tank will be more reliable. And effective in the direct support of the infantry.
                        Quote: Spade
                        Inseparable? No questions. Do you think that there is no need for MBTs, is it enough to install a 2C3 gun on the T-72 base and do this?

                        Can you read?
                        Quote: Kars
                        I personally suggest an increase in the caliber of the MBT gun

                        Quote: Spade
                        Probably due to the absence of guided and adjustable shells at that time?

                        The Americans didn’t have them during the assault on Baghdad? Basra?

                        By the way in Berlin and the Apaches were not.
                        Quote: Spade
                        Why? Same. But with this mortar, more hinged trajectories are available

                        Yes, not really, especially at large distances the barrel will still have to deflect from the vertical and use a large charge.
                        Quote: Spade
                        And they too. They do not know how to distinguish between ordinary and managed

                        And what's the difference? You need to suppress the fire in any case. And already the 240 mm mine is certainly classified as a very dangerous target, regardless of whether it is controlled or not.
                        Quote: Spade
                        With the saturation of modern infantry with anti-tank weapons? Fact.

                        Compared with the Tulip in the city, or any other floating mortar, a fact.
                      10. bask
                        0
                        1 March 2013 02: 01
                        Quote: Kars
                        By the way in Berlin and Apache not

                        If the assault gun does not fit. Then it is necessary to build MBT We have with 152 mm gun. Cut in 27 calibers.

                        Or better than that with a towered tower
                        Kars borrowed your picture.
                      11. +1
                        1 March 2013 02: 05
                        Quote: bask
                        borrowed your picture.

                        oh well not my she
                      12. bask
                        +1
                        1 March 2013 00: 57
                        Quote: Kars

                        If Israel had managed for a long time, the Merkavs would have let them go, Yes, and the Yankes Abrashi were not brought to Baghdad

                        Quote: Spade
                        confuse a tank and a specialized assault gun.

                        Israel just uses the “Merkava” as assault guns. It is for action in urban conditions. They are simply satisfied with the caliber of 120 mm and various types of ammunition for it.
                      13. 0
                        1 March 2013 01: 08
                        Quote: bask
                        It is for action in urban environments

                        Given the specifics of the building materials of the Ababa slums. After Sturm Beirut, the center was especially criticized (at least 105 mm) and the experience of storming Grozny also revealed a lack of power.
                      14. +1
                        1 March 2013 01: 11
                        And the Israelis took the path of improving ammunition.
                      15. bask
                        +1
                        1 March 2013 01: 25
                        Quote: Kars
                        and the experience of storming Grozny also revealed a lack of power.

                        Here, this is the most important thing. In the Yoy Tube, how many kinds of materials about the insufficient power of the 125 mm cannons of our MBT.
                        Quote: Spade
                        however, the "Merkavas" are not so narrowly specialized

                        The difference is that on the "Merkava" an inhabited rotating tower. According to the tactics of application and the machine’s layout itself, it’s just like an assault gun. What's the difference?
                      16. 0
                        1 March 2013 01: 31
                        If you try to create a self-propelled assault gun with the capabilities of the Merkava, you will have a main battle tank.
                      17. 0
                        1 March 2013 01: 10
                        Moreover, the "Merkavas" are not so narrowly specialized
                      18. bask
                        +1
                        1 March 2013 01: 09
                        Quote: Spade
                        but he dwells in the rear. Firing range allows.

                        How to deliver a corrector to a village-town swarming with militants? To correct fire. The only way out is to use UAVs and spotters' balloons.
                        Quote: Kars

                        Why the buildings? The snipers, the tank hidden by the building.
                        Quote: Spade

                        Correction only from air.
                      19. 0
                        1 March 2013 01: 13
                        Quote: bask
                        How to deliver a corrector to a village-town swarming with militants?

                        How to deliver infantry?
                      20. bask
                        0
                        1 March 2013 00: 10
                        Quote: Spade

                        Now a fighter with a laser rangefinder-target designator has a comparable, if not greater efficiency

                        How many such ammunition were used in the war in Chechnya 1,2, Hundreds of pieces no more.
                        Quote: Kars

                        Self-propelled guns are cheaper, but at large distances a large angle of incidence, which is not particularly good in multi-story buildings. Yes and lasers

                        I’m talking for battles in the building-city. Mostly direct fire. It is for the direct support of MBT
                        After ,, Finnish ,, an attempt to create a KV-2 with 152 mm equipment. Nothing but an attempt to create a Sh.O.
                      21. +1
                        1 March 2013 00: 27
                        Used as much as they could. The same "Daredevils" fired only one division for the entire grouping. It is easier to rivet them with modernization to a level adequate to modern requirements.
                        Plus, finally, to put new guided and adjustable ammunition in the troops. Both at 152 and at 122 (120) mm. Accordingly, together with modern LCDs
                      22. bask
                        0
                        1 March 2013 00: 41
                        Quote: Spade
                        Nets, put new guided and adjustable ammunition in the troops. Both at 152 and at 122 (120) mm.

                        I was looking for I didn’t find Sturm village, Karamakhi, in 1999. I already laid out this video. The soldiers dismounted and entered the village under the cover of BTR-80. In theory, it’s good to have 152mm 120mm adjustable munitions. But this will not happen for quite a while.
                        It’s easier to rivet Sh.O. on the basis of the same T-72s. During your service, you have often regretted that you do not have such a technique.
                      23. 0
                        1 March 2013 00: 56
                        The problem you described is solved much easier - the infantry should have minimal experience in using aviation and artillery.
                      24. 0
                        1 March 2013 00: 42
                        Quote: Spade
                        Used as much as they could

                        Vryatli. In Chechnya, they didn’t seem to use them at all, although you still have all of them. In Afghanistan, they did not storm the city.
                        Quote: Spade
                        . It’s easier to rivet them with modernization to a level adequate to modern requirements.

                        In the Soviet Union, there wasn’t much riveted them. And a new one will be much cheaper than MBT from 152 mm, especially if you increase protection.
                      25. 0
                        1 March 2013 00: 51
                        Quote: Kars
                        Vryatli. In Chechnya, they did not seem to be used at all

                        The second one was definitely used.


                        Quote: Kars
                        And the new one will be much cheaper than MBT with 152 mm, especially if you increase protection.

                        Not much. And maybe even more expensive. But this is artillery. Therefore, the cost of the modernized Tulip must be compared with the cost of the modernized Su-25
                      26. 0
                        1 March 2013 00: 54
                        Quote: Spade
                        In the second, exactly used

                        Well, after 6 years of war, something like that))))
                        Quote: Spade
                        But this is artillery

                        Quote: Spade
                        modernized Su-25

                        Why not the Tu-22M3? or KA-52?
                      27. +1
                        1 March 2013 01: 07
                        Quote: Kars
                        Well, after 6 years of war, something like that))))

                        No, at the very beginning. 1999-2000.

                        Quote: Kars
                        Why not the Tu-22M3? or KA-52?

                        You can with them. But I chose the cheapest sample.
                      28. 0
                        1 March 2013 01: 19
                        Quote: Spade
                        No, at the very beginning. 1999-2000

                        Do you divide the Chechen war into the first and second?

                        Quote: Spade
                        You can with them. But I chose the cheapest sample.

                        a very original approach. I will then bet on MLRS Smerch. or at worst MLRS or new)
                      29. +1
                        1 March 2013 01: 36
                        Quote: Kars
                        Do you divide the Chechen war into the first and second?

                        I did not participate in the first. And I don’t know if guided munitions were used in it.
                        The second used.


                        Quote: Kars
                        I will then bet on the MLRS Smerch. Or at worst MLRS or new)

                        You can bet on them. Also cheaper. But they have a big problem - for point targets they do not work, as well as for targets located in the immediate vicinity of their troops
                      30. +1
                        1 March 2013 01: 46
                        Quote: Spade
                        I did not participate in the first

                        Quote: Kars
                        Do you divide the Chechen war into the first and second?

                        Quote: Kars
                        Well, after 6 years of war, something like that))))

                        Quote: Spade
                        on point targets they do not work

                        Oh yes, what is the question when 240 mm mines were launched

                      31. bask
                        0
                        1 March 2013 07: 14
                        Quote: Spade

                        I did not participate in the first. And I don’t know if guided munitions were used in it

                        Guided ammunition will be used in RA but in very limited quantities. And you yourself drank how bulky they are, Krasnopol, up to 1,5 meters long. The rate of fire will be 1-3 rounds per minute. It is not included in mechanical styling.
                      32. bask
                        0
                        1 March 2013 01: 42
                        Quote: Spade
                        You can with them. But I chose the cheapest sample

                        So we came to the conclusion that without Sh.O. the current state of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and the technologies used can not do The creation of an assault gun is the cheapest and most effective way of developing armored vehicles. Armata will again be my 125 mm gun.
                  2. 0
                    28 February 2013 23: 26
                    For BS-3 BR-412B.
                    For A-19 BR-471B.

                    It seems that all the dumbheads with a ballistic tip appeared in the troops in 1945
                    1. bask
                      0
                      1 March 2013 00: 47
                      Quote: Spade
                      confuse tank and specialized assault guns

                      It’s possible to combine what. Yesterday’s theme. About an uninhabited tower. An assault gun firing both direct fire and a hinged trajectory. Only the gun barrel should be no more than 27 calibers.
                      .
            2. AK-47
              +2
              28 February 2013 23: 33
              Quote: Spade
              "C" - dull-headed, "D" - sharp-headed

              Perhaps the opposite.
              In general, the ISU-152 ammunition included:
              armor-piercing tracing pointed-headed projectile 53-BR-540 weighing 48,8 kg, initial velocity 600 m / s;
              53-OF-540 high-explosive fragmentation cannon shell weighing 43,56 kg, initial velocity 655 m / s at full charge.
              Instead of armor-piercing tracer shells 53-BR-540, armor-piercing tracer blunt-headed shells with a ballistic tip 53-BR-540B (from the beginning of 1945) could be used.
              To destroy reinforced concrete bunkers, a concrete-piercing cannon shell 53-G-545 could be introduced into the ammunition. The nomenclature of propellant charges was also significantly reduced - it included a special charge 54-Ж-545Б for an armor-piercing shell and a full charge of 54-ЖН-545 for a high-explosive fragmentation shell. In principle, the ML-20S howitzer gun could fire all types of shells and charges from its towed ML-20 variant. However, in the manuals and firing tables for ISU-152 during the Great Patriotic War, only the ammunition indicated above is listed. This does not exclude the possibility of firing other types of ammunition ...
              1. 0
                28 February 2013 23: 52
                Quote: AK-47
                Perhaps the opposite.


                It cannot be the other way around. The ballistic tip passes under the number "6" in the diagram. And he was only in the armor-piercing blunt-headed.

                1-bottom fuse, 2- body, 3-explosive charge, 4- lead belt, 5- tracer.

                In the diagram, the first is PF, the second is half-armor-piercing, the third is armor-piercing blunt-headed, the fourth is acute-headed, the fifth is cumulative.
                1. AK-47
                  0
                  1 March 2013 12: 48
                  Quote: Spade
                  It cannot be the other way around.

                  I agree, my mistake.
      2. +2
        28 February 2013 15: 24
        ___________________
        1. 0
          28 February 2013 15: 53
          The initial velocity of the gun is naturally higher than that of the ML-20 howitzer gun
    3. 0
      28 February 2013 15: 14
      You are mistaken, no sub-caliber. Only caliber pointed-headed and since the end of 1944 caliber blunt-headed.

      Only the Su-100 had sub-caliber, but this is a completely different story.
    4. valiant
      +1
      28 February 2013 18: 10
      Statistics show that "St. John's hunters" rarely met "tigers" (only 1350 tigers were built) and the outcome of the battle depended on the situation and how experienced the crew was. In addition, he tore off the tower and did monstrous destruction mainly by detonating ammunition in the "tiger" or "panther".
  4. +4
    28 February 2013 10: 46
    The speed with which the design developments and the time of setting up for production is amazing.
  5. +2
    28 February 2013 11: 28
    Permian himself, we did these charms ...
  6. I627z
    +7
    28 February 2013 11: 41
    ISU 152 let's say the best universal self-propelled gun that was used, and as an assault gun, and as a tank destroyer, and as a howitzer.
    Moreover, the tank exterminator, unfortunately, did not serve from a good life.
    "St. John's Wort" was only because she inherited this title from the su 152, which in 1943 was the only means of fighting the Ferdinand tagrs and panthers. (And the question is, how effective?)
    A "real" tank destroyer is the SU 100. The muzzle velocity is 1.5 times higher. Unitary loading. 33 shots. (The same not God knows what, but still). But the main thing is the range of destruction of 1500 m for any German tank.
    1. evgen1517203
      0
      5 May 2015 14: 05
      Hello! I’m here a gamer in World Doftenx and I have my favorite tank in the hangar. This is Su 152. I like it better, and I take apart the lion and the tiger on it
    2. evgen1517203
      0
      5 May 2015 14: 13
      my hypericum
  7. +2
    28 February 2013 11: 51
    There are a lot of opinions about the ISU 152 There is such a "Su-152 is not an antitank at all. I think he does not need armor-piercing shells at all - this is a self-propelled gun to support the infantry, if it manages to meet with enemy tanks, then even if it fires first, then from -will not hit the shitty sights, after which he will think about a second for 40 .. will get 5-6 hits and die heroically. As for sneaking up and shooting at the side from 200-300 meters, it’s better instead of 1-2 SU-ISU 152, 5- SU-76, Hollow fedinand - it is smaller, more passable.overtists, it has a rapid-fire cannon, there are tungsten shells - this is where you can sneak up so sneak up And the purpose of the SU-152 is to bomb trenches and anti-tank equipment from 200-500 meters, helping infantrymen to open the defense of the enemy is already directly in the stronghold of the point, saturated with fire weapons and enemy infantry, although IMHO SU, ISU-122 are better here - more shells and faster fire. Regarding the name "St. John's wort", destroyer of Tigers, etc. - "read less Soviet newspapers before bedtime" ...
    There is such:
    "Regarding the use as" St. John's Hunters "- no need to try to study the history of a computer game. This is just a very, very, very, very simplified and schematically depicted model of reality. But in reality they fought with what it was. AT-guns, and an attack by the "Tigers" was expected, then they fought back as much as they could, including (and) the SU-45. Although, of course, it was not intended for this (against the "Tigers" - SU-152, SU-85 and, especially, the Su-100M). But from (I) the SU-100 it is possible to destroy a well-fortified firing point with ONE DIRECT hit. "
    Is there the memories of those who fought
    "" When we entered Vienna, they gave us a battery of heavy ISU-152, three pieces. They held me back so! I could drive the Sherman on the highway up to 70 km / h, but they could hardly walk. And there was such a case in Vienna, I described it in the book. Already in the city the Germans counterattacked us with several Panthers. Panther is a heavy tank. I gave the order to advance the ISU and open fire on the German tanks: "Well, spit!" And he spat! And, I must say, the streets in Vienna are narrow, the houses are high, and many wanted to see the ISU fight with the Panther, and they remained on the street. ISU gasped, the Panther was mixed with the ground, the tower was torn off, the distance was 400-500 meters. But as a result of the shot, broken glass fell from above. In Vienna there were many windows with stained-glass windows and all this fell on our heads. And so I am still executing myself, that I did not overlook! There were so many wounded! It’s good that we were in headsets, but our arms and shoulders were cut very badly. That was such a sad experience for me, the first time I fought in the city. We also said "A smart city will not go, a smart city will bypass." But here I had a clear order to break into the city. "
    1. +11
      28 February 2013 12: 41
      Quote: viruskvartirus
      it's not anti-tank at all

      It may be so, but Major Sankovsky may argue with you. wink

      The ACS SU-152, Major Sankovsky, commander of one of the batteries of the ACS of the 13 Army. His crew destroyed in the first battle during the Kursk battle 10 enemy tanks

      ... a forty-kilogram shell of any type, successfully launched from the SU-152, and later from the ISU-152, hit everyone and everyone, even the high-explosive shell sent to the same Ferdinand without breaking its armor, however, was capable of shake it to the ground, the gun of the German self-propelled guns tore off the mounts, and the crew lost the ability to navigate in space, there was only one thing left, it was to send this elephant for repair in the Reich, and the crew, either to the hospital or to the madhouse.

      You can’t say better! good
      1. I627z
        -15
        28 February 2013 13: 29
        Just a "monster" some this Major put every second shot into the tank. (only 2 shots per self-propelled gun). And this despite the fact that half of it is not armor-piercing. Maybe it was T-20, and he covered them all at once with one land mine? By the way, in your quote, the keyword is successfully launched.
      2. +2
        28 February 2013 19: 49
        Undoubtedly, a dynamic hit from a 152mm shell of terrible power.
    2. +12
      28 February 2013 13: 43
      Quote: viruskvartirus
      Regarding the name "St. John's wort", the destroyer of the Tigers, etc. - "read less Soviet newspapers before bedtime."

      Did you come up with this yourself?
      I already once wrote on one of the branches that such "St. John's Hunters" saved the life of my father and his colleagues.
      It was in Hungary when Manstein counterattacked and drove our forward units back. The infantry had not yet had time to dig in, when tanks (about a dozen "tigers") came and drove our infantry across the field. My father said that they ran at a run, 200 meters ahead of the tanks and dragged the wounded. And the tanks didn't even shoot - they enjoyed the picture. Only behind, because of the tanks, armored personnel carriers sometimes fired at. We ran to the forest. And when it was already very close to the forest, from the forest hillock the Germans were hit by "St. John's wort" (that's what he called them!). Apparently they managed to come up and were already waiting. In five minutes, towers flew from several "tigers". The rest had to leave hastily. So that everything was and the "St. John's wort" "tigers" did not beat weakly.
      By the way, my father also fought in Vienna. There are rewards for both Budapest and Vienna. His rare stories I still remember.
    3. 0
      28 February 2013 15: 23
      ___________________
    4. AK-47
      0
      28 February 2013 23: 19
      Quote: viruskvartirus
      About the application

      In addition to World War II, ISU-152 were used to suppress the Hungarian uprising of 1956, where they once again confirmed their tremendous destructive power. Especially effective was the use of ISU-152 as the most powerful anti-sniper rifle to destroy insurgent snipers hiding in apartment buildings in Budapest, inflicting significant damage on Soviet troops. Sometimes, only having a self-propelled gun nearby was enough for the inhabitants of the house, in fear for their life and property, to expel snipers or bottle throwers that had settled there from it.
      In the Arab-Israeli wars, the ISU-152 were mainly used as stationary firing points along the banks of the Suez Canal and showed themselves little in the hands of Egyptian troops. A number of these vehicles were captured by the Israeli army.
  8. +8
    28 February 2013 11: 56
    What a beautiful car. I don’t know how you are, comrades, and when I look at the ISU-152 / 122, associations are immediately born with Ilyusha of Murom, dressed in armor and gently playing with a club. good
    On the Prokhorovsky field there is an exposition of armored vehicles. There is also ISU-152. God, how huge she is!


    I can imagine the horror that the battle formations of these heavy self-propelled guns caused in the enemy infantry. good
    1. AK-47
      0
      28 February 2013 22: 57
      Quote: Iraclius
      I can imagine the horror that the battle formations of these heavy self-propelled guns caused in the enemy infantry.

      The hit of a high-explosive fragmentation projectile in the close vicinity of a heavily armored target often put it out of order even without breaking through the armor (the gun, chassis, and aiming devices of the target were damaged by the blast wave and fragments). Shooting with powerful high-explosive high-explosive shells at the armor shells was quite common, since 13 out of 20 rounds in the ammunition were exactly high-explosive. The remaining 7 were concrete or armor-piercing.
  9. +4
    28 February 2013 12: 06
    Nice car, just BEAST good Such a machine and a modern tank can ruin life wink
    1. 0
      21 March 2013 16: 01
      It's a pity the skin of any "Tigers" and "Abrams" will spoil thoroughly when removed :)
  10. +2
    28 February 2013 12: 14
    It is interesting to read the memories of how ours fought on them.
  11. boris61bo
    0
    28 February 2013 12: 34
    power machine
  12. +4
    28 February 2013 12: 54
    Here is another interesting technical material about the collapse of tank towers after hitting a projectile from the ISU-152 ..
    Along the way, the author wants to note one question that for some reason often interests amateurs of armored vehicles - about the disruption of towers after being hit by an armor-piercing or even high-explosive 152-mm shell from the ISU-152. Quite often, at the same time, you have to see links to your opuses and read the arguments for and against. I will explain a little my words about breakdowns. Naturally, the BR-540 does not have enough kinetic energy and momentum to disrupt and toss the turret of a heavy tank a few meters up and towards the side. What they love to see in computer games and films is a consequence of the detonation of ammunition. But for the destruction of the grips that fasten the tower to the shoulder strap and the displacement of the tower a few centimeters from the axis of rotation, the energy of a 152-mm projectile is quite enough. Moreover, the energy is purely mechanical, without taking into account the potential stored in the explosive. Moreover, the latter may even turn out to be harmful if it bursts quickly, when the projectile cannot transfer its mechanical energy to the target. That is why the instructions for artillerymen speak of the mandatory need to install fuses for high-explosive action when firing high-explosive fragmentation projectiles at enemy tanks. The case of the destruction of the elements of fastening the tower to the shoulder strap and its displacement (excluding further rotation and shooting) is what the author means by saying "breakdown". At a speed of about 500 m / s, the BR-540 projectile weighing about 49 kg has a kinetic energy of about 6,3 megajoules. This roughly corresponds to the potential energy of a 10-ton mass lifted to a height of about 60 m. The consequences of a collision, even if the armor is not penetrated when at least a quarter of this energy is transferred to the tower, will be very serious.
  13. 755962
    +4
    28 February 2013 13: 01
    How, with the help of a sledgehammer and a kind word, you can start ISU-152 “St. John's wort”, which has stood since 1944 in a Ukrainian village.
  14. Eric
    +3
    28 February 2013 13: 04
    I’ve been given such beauty not far from home, at the entrance to the military unit! We even almost passed, stopped climbed, and all and climbed as in childhood!
    1. Prohor
      0
      28 February 2013 15: 50
      You are probably from Tambov, dear? hi
      1. Eric
        0
        1 March 2013 10: 10
        So sure Comrade! It is from him! From the Infantry, from MZHK! You too?
  15. +9
    28 February 2013 13: 35
    It would not hurt to read this article to postmodernist Karen Shakhnazarov.
    1. +2
      28 February 2013 17: 20
      You can't forgive him "White Tiger" in any way ... Perhaps I'll join smile
      1. +1
        28 February 2013 17: 44
        Quote: Raphael_83
        You cannot forgive the "White Tiger"

        The film, if honestly, also fell short of expectations. And the book was greatly altered --- if it were straight from the book of negative reviews there would have been even more. Our people mostly represent the tank war in Polish. Four tankmen and a dog ... and our patriotic films that are just wonderful but they don’t fully reveal the horror of the war. (I personally just adore in the War, as in the war, and Zhenya, the bridegroom and .. Katyusha.)

        Personally, I liked the book --- the main thing is to remember that it is not documentary, as well as the film.
        http://flibusta.net/b/280341
        1. +2
          6 October 2013 18: 45
          Yes, with this "White Timgrom" everything is somehow wrong. For documentary fiction it is a bit too much, for mystical - the plot is sluggish and little drama, for the patriotic - it does not pull at all, for science fiction - neither science nor technology. So it turned out the typical nonsense on engine oil.
  16. valiant
    +3
    28 February 2013 18: 44
    ... Tanks crossed the shallow river, bypassing the Bolshaya Chern on the left. We covered their maneuver with fire. Suddenly, three or four Panthers came out to the flank of the attacking tanks and opened fire. I will say this, if an enemy tank appeared within a kilometer and a half, then its type can be distinguished only through binoculars, but from a stop, but in a stationary vehicle, and even then not always. Well, in a real situation on the battlefield, in dust, in smoke, we did not consider them. So from a thousand meters, we burned them, at least three pieces remained in place. We moved forward, we look, and my hair stands on end - these are our T-34s. Everyone is a tribunal! Only after driving a little more, and seeing the crosses on the towers, I calmed down - the tanks were German. I was right - they were shooting at ours, but if it were our tanks, I could hardly prove that I was right ... Here I remember one battle. Three tanks of the head patrol, which came out of the forest into a clearing and climbed a hillock, were destroyed by the "Tiger", which stood openly on the other side of the clearing. It was impossible to bypass this clearing, and the brigade commander ordered: "Are you" St. John's wort "? So destroy this tank." My self-propelled gun moved forward, approached the foot of the hill and began to slowly climb it. I myself leaned out of the hatch up to my waist. At some point, I saw a German tank leaning its stern against the trunk of a huge tree. The Tiger fired. The swirl of air that whizzed over my head almost tore me out of the hatch. While I was thinking about what to do, he still fired one or two blanks, but since only a fragment of the wheelhouse protruded above the hill, and the trajectory of the cannon projectile was flat, he did not hit. What to do? You crawl out - you will die in vain. And then I decided to take advantage of the capabilities of my 152-mm howitzer-gun, which had a hinged projectile flight path. I noticed a bush on this hill. Looking through the bore, I got the driver mechanic to position the self-propelled gun so that the bush was aligned with the crown of the tree under which the German tank was standing. After that, using the sight, he lowered the gun by 3 hundredths so that the projectile would pass over the ground itself. There are a million calculations, but I've been talking longer than I've done all this. I sat down for the gunner, I saw a bush in the sight. Shot! I lean out of the hatch - the "Tiger" tower lies next to it - just hit the sawn-off shotgun! Then the brigade newspaper wrote: "Shishkin shoots like Schweik from around the corner." (Shishkin Nikolai Konstantinovich, ISU-152 battery commander)


    1. 0
      1 March 2014 17: 00
      That's right :) There was nothing for the Tiger crew to get under the benchmark)))
  17. Algor73
    +2
    28 February 2013 19: 08
    I don’t know how many, but my grandfather told (I was still young) that the Germans were afraid of "St. John's wort" (I still didn’t know what it was, just boyish curiosity about war), and our tankers respected him.
  18. +1
    28 February 2013 21: 03
    On this topic! He graduated from training in the specialty-mechanic driver of heavy tanks IS-3 and heavy self-propelled artillery ISU-152K, as well as tractors based on IP.
    During the first Arab-Israeli conflict, these machines were removed from safekeeping. They were completed to the norm and through Nikolaev to Egypt! According to the data received, our equipment was liked by the very "God's chosen" soldiers. We were seized together with dry cargo ships.
    1. -1
      1 March 2013 09: 28
      Vlaleks48
      The ISs weren’t captured much. Unlike T-54 / 55 and later T-62. At least I don’t know the formation of separate units from them, whereas on the basis of captured post-war tanks that underwent modernization under Israeli conditions, 4 tank brigades were formed.
      I remembered ISs were used as firing points on Suez ..
  19. AK-47
    0
    28 February 2013 23: 15
    However, in addition to its advantages, the ISU-152 also had disadvantages. The largest of them was a small ammunition load of 20 rounds. Moreover, loading a new ammunition was a time-consuming operation, sometimes taking more than 40 minutes. This was a consequence of the large mass of shells (approx. 50 kg.), As a result, the loader required great physical strength and endurance. The ST-10 telescopic sight was calibrated for firing at distances of up to 900 m, while the gun had a direct-shot range of over 3,5 km. Therefore, with accurate shooting at a range of over 900 m, the gunner was forced to use a less convenient panoramic sight. Another way to solve this problem was to concentrate the fire of several self-propelled guns at the desired point. Lack of accuracy was compensated by firepower.
    ... fuel tanks were located inside the fighting compartment. If they were pierced, the crew had a great risk of being burned alive. However, this danger was somewhat reduced by the worst flammability of diesel fuel compared to gasoline and the presence of a tetrachloride fire extinguisher.
  20. 0
    21 March 2013 13: 28
    albeit small rate of fire, albeit small bk, but it was more than effective against tigers and panthers
  21. 0
    26 March 2013 12: 28
    The most effective "cat dog" was our SU-100
    1. 0
      17 July 2013 11: 07
      But it appeared at the close, and therefore the honorary nickname "St. John's Wort" went to the SU / ISU-152 quite deservedly.
  22. +2
    6 October 2013 18: 52
    Powerful car, you can’t say anything. And 122 also somehow turned out pretty well, albeit unplannedly. And what prevented them from doing 1941 ?? ?? ..