New generation armored vehicles manufactured by ACMAT

At the international exhibition of armored vehicles (International Armored Vehicles 2012) in Farnborough, one of the world leaders in the development, design and production of armored combat vehicles and light trucks, ACMAT presented a new model range of tactical combat vehicles BASTION PATSAS, ALTV and VLRA Commando. Founded in 1948, ACMAT SAS is a subsidiary of Renault Trucks Defense and produces well-known VLRA armored vehicles, of which the 1200 are in service with the French army. ACMAT supplies dozens of customers in Africa, the Middle East and Europe with a range of tactical, armored and logistics vehicles (ALTV, VLRA and BASTION).

New armored personnel carrier BASTION PATSAS
Based on the experience of conducting combat conflicts over the past 60-years in areas of Africa and the Middle East, ACMAT has specially developed a new armored car BASTION PATSAS. It has a high level of mobility, body armor, payload and survivability in the most extreme driving conditions.

The open top of the machine allows you to place heavy on it weapon and rocket launchers, surveillance and targeting systems. The machine can be used for special operations. By car, the well-known 4x4 chassis and combat-tested protection technology are used.

There is also a version of the BTR. The BASTION BTR can transport ten people under the protection of 3 STANAG 4569 level. The machine has a V-shaped, anti-mine armored capsule volume 9 m³ used for fire support and as a system of self-defense.

Special Operations Vehicles
The ACMAT open-top machines of the ALTV BASTION PATSAS, Torpedo and VLRA Commando series are unique solutions for autonomous operations with the maximum degree of tactical mobility and striking power held by special-purpose groups.

Tactical BASTION PATSAS specifications
Country of origin: France
Crew: 2 front, 3-rear
Length: 6 m
Width: 2.20 m
Height: 2.40 m
Load / APS level 1: kg kgn
Load / APS level 2: kg kgn
Load / APS level 3: kg kgn
Gross weight: 10500 kg
Power reserve: 1000 km
Fuel capacity: 300 liters (2x 150)
Maximum speed: 110 km / h (60 km / h with gear)
Gradient: 65%
Bias: 30%
Overcoming ford: 1 m
Turning radius: 7.25 m
Transportability of air transport: C-130, C-160, A400M, CH-47
Armored capsules: high hardness armor steel
Ballistic protection: level from 1 to 3 NATO standard
Armored glass: level 1 to 3 according to NATO standards
Mine protection: 2 level, NATO standard 4569
Mine tires: Finabel A20A
Weapons system: LG-40, 2LMG turning stations on the sides, 10 locations for the location of the assault rifle
Protection: Smoke Grenades
Engine: turbo diesel volume 5.0 liters
Emission Level: Euro 2, Euro 5
Power: 215 HP (158 kW)
Transmission: 6-front, 1 rear (5-speed automatic option) and transfer case

Comments

[Igor]

Yes, I see all countries obsessed with four-wheeled armored personnel carriers.

[Brother Sarych]

Very interesting cars - I myself thought that this direction is more correct than the creation of fully armored vehicles ...
It is unlikely that these units will have to serve when they are threatened by the impact of weapons of mass destruction, the car will be cheaper, it is unlikely to be attacked from the air, but it’s better to see, it’s more likely to notice the enemy and it’s easier for him to drop good airborne weapons, and if the mine is too large it turns out, then the probability of being smeared on the ceiling tends to zero ...

[APASUS]

Quote: Brother Sarich

she is unlikely to be attacked from the air.

It’s a very controversial concept for the development of armored vehicles. I didn’t really want to refute your statement with soldier’s lives, but you don’t consider attacks from helicopters at all, UAVs or a trip to the city with an open top can end badly, I don’t look at mountainous terrain. Afghan children throw stones at these special forces! !!!!!!!!!!

[Brother Sarych]

The creators of the machine do not consider this possibility and quite rightly do so!
What kind of helicopters and UAVs do their opponents have? In Afghanistan, for example? And in the mountainous terrain, everything is not so bad - look closely at the sides, notice - wet the goats, and if you wait for a present, then the tank will not stand ...

[APASUS]

Quote: Brother Sarich

What kind of helicopters and UAVs do their opponents have? In Afghanistan, for example? And in the mountainous terrain, everything is not so bad - look closely at the sides, notice - wet the goats, and if you wait for the present, then the tank will not stand ..

Pancake...........!!!
BTR for cities, BTR for mountains, BTR for the plain ........... ???
Watch the movie "The Fall of the Black Hawk Down", it will become clear how the famous "Delta" and Army Rangers practically blew General Aidid's militants. And there were no open-top cars at all !!!

[Brother Sarych]

Cinema is definitely authority! More cartoons are nice to watch ...

[APASUS]

Quote: Brother Sarich

Cinema is definitely authority! More cartoons are nice to watch ..

I don’t like watching teach history - Operation Revival of Hope, or again the information will not suit ???

[Brother Sarych]

The elders are not good to be rude, young man!
And if not young - then I am very sorry that you draw information in such treasures ...

[APASUS]

Quote: Brother Sarich

that you draw information in such treasures ...

You’re a strange person. I suggested the film to see where everything is visually shown
- you don’t like it. I suggested that I find the information myself, about the real operation of the Americans — again not there. And what arguments should you convince that the war is not a walk and the gigs in the war - a previously losing option, in the war you have to be prepared for everything and blows with air - not so rare ???
Sorry for being rude!

[Igor]

Quote: APASUS

Watch the movie "The Fall of the Black Hawk Down", it will become clear how the famous "Delta" and Army Rangers practically blew General Aidid's militants. And there were no open-top cars at all !!!

Dear Apasus !!! Now compare the number of dead Americans who drove into Somalia on the Hammers and our guys who drove into Grozny on tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers.

[APASUS]

Quote: Igorek

Now compare the number of dead Americans who drove into Somalia on the Hammers and our guys who drove into Grozny in tanks, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers.

I see no reason to compare, Operation Revival of Hope, where special ranger units and the Delta squad participated. The guys worked under cover from the air, space communications and guidance systems.
And the Russian army, weakened by the reformers and controlled by the illiterate Grachev, who received the nickname "Pasha Mercedes! (I hope you don't have to write for what?) !!!

[Igor]

Quote: APASUS

Special ranger units and Delta squad participated.

We also participated in the assault of the Airborne Forces and special forces.

Quote: APASUS

The guys worked undercover from the air,

Several helicopters with Gatling and NURSs were not a big cover, and even two were shot down, even there were no Apaches.

Quote: APASUS

space communication

Ordinary army walkie-talkies, it is unlikely that they used satellite phones.

Quote: APASUS

guidance systems.

In my opinion, the Americans did not use any high-precision weapons, and the utility vehicles proved to be very good during urban battles and the Americans use them in every military conflict, if you enter a city with heavy armored vehicles, then you need to level all the buildings in their path with the ground.

[Igor]

Quote: APASUS

I see no reason to compare

The point is that we fell into this position because of the poor command, and the Americans because we were ambushed.

[APASUS]

Quote: Igorek

we fell into this position because of the poor leadership, and the Americans because they were ambushed.

The Americans fell because of their confidence in their power and their plans did not include a rescue operation at all. And when they lost the helicopter, everything fell like a house of cards !!!
Our fell into such a situation due to the fact that the assault on Grozny was a fraud for Grachev from the very beginning. One need only recall his famous words ... about how he will take Grozny with two battalions.

[datur]

APASUS, Afghan children throw stones at these special forces !!!!!!!!!!!! --- That's for sure, but in the city, greetings from the balcony with the Molotov cocktail and mustache --- brotherly bonfire !!!!

[MKALEKSEY]

"The open top of the vehicle allows heavy weapons and missile launchers, surveillance and target designation systems to be placed on it."

And if they shoot from above, like in Afghanistan from the mountains along a gorge or in a city from the upper floors or roofs, even the most inexperienced shooter will not miss, by the way, and if from a grenade launcher, then immediately to all the khan.

[Nymp]

Who knows the further fate of our "Combat"? Something he flashed in the info field and disappeared. Did you even go into development?

[VORON]

This is one of the variants of a "raid" car, just with mine armor, but which, like other "raid" buggies, has an open top, such special forces mainly use in the deserts of North Africa, it is very good to transfer them with helicopters ... HAPPY YOU BROTHERS !!! !!

[Nymp]

VORON,

Quote: VORON

HOLIDAY YOU BROTHERS !!!!!

[zombies]

These are cars for special units, and for them the lack of a roof is not a disadvantage, and as for ambushes in the mountains, etc., he’s also special forces in order not to ambush on the roads, but to arrange them ourselves. In Afghanistan, Soviet special forces, hunting for Dushman caravans for raids and very successfully, he even used unarmored heavy Urals, so such machines are very useful when used correctly.

[AlexMH]

Especially fun, such cars without a roof would have looked in Russia in the winter :) And in the sense, the machines are highly specialized, for the army are not too suitable. For the internal troops - it’s possible, but the roof is still needed - it’s cold, wet .... But in Africa it’s possible without a roof, when it’s not the rainy season :)

[Brother Sarych]

And note that several machine guns are fixed on the machine, and it’s quite convenient to use them - you don’t have to go face-to-face in an armored tomb, with your back to the windows! Guess what. who previously reacts to danger - the French in their taratayka, or ours?
It seems to me that a machine gun firing at grenade launchers is much better protection than armor ...

[Bad_gr]

We have the same among the armored vehicles convertibles were

But bitter experience has shown that the absence of a roof is evil, and among modern such options are no longer there.

[Brother Sarych]

What about just the wrong application of technology?
If you enter the city, they will try to set you on fire in any case!
Lack of a roof is evil? Perhaps this is so, for the first time this was attended to in Hungary, if my memory serves me - but there they burned with the same success both tanks and self-propelled guns, that is, the heaviest armored vehicles!
On an empty street there is a higher chance of escaping by an open car, on a street clogged with people, no one will have a chance!
Patrolling the countryside, relatively speaking. in the current conditions, it is again better to use open cars - the chance is earlier to see the enemy and destroy him ...
In a closed car there is no chance - wait for the attack, you may have to get out, so what? Doom yourself to losses in advance ...
In any case, this car is a niche, adapted to certain tactics, in Libya and nearby it has good chances of success in the application ...

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Brother Sarich

On an empty street there is a higher chance of escaping by an open car ....

So in fact in the armored roof, on armored personnel carriers they make large hatches and the fighter has options: either stick around in the hatch (and the hatch covers his back) or hide behind the armor. Generally there is a choice. And if there is no roof, then the choice is not a lot.

[Brother Sarych]

Consider three campaigns on armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, they simply drove in armor, and in any weather, which is much worse!
They didn’t notice in the photo that the cars were painted in sand color - it’s done especially for the desert, and I assure you that it rains less often in the region of their use, but for Europe the same car has a light roof, as you can understand .. .
In my opinion this is a very good niche car ...

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Brother Sarich

Consider three campaigns on armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, they simply drove in armor, and in any weather, which is much worse!

Not always on the armor. Where there was a chance of undermining the car - on the armor, where there are more chances to get a bullet - they drove inside.

[APASUS]

Quote: Brother Sarich

Patrolling the countryside, relatively speaking. in the current conditions, it is again better to use open cars - the chance is earlier to see the enemy and destroy him ...

Here you have this machine!
For a long time, a soldier standing on a machine with binoculars has not been looking for the enemy! There are thermal imagers, laser scanners, motion sensors, UAVs, but a machine for patrolling deserts (because it is in sandy camouflage) or the countryside does not stand up to criticism.
In the desert, in the daytime it can be + 60, and at night -2. Not one unit can stand such differences without air conditioning for a long time! Warm the desert at night in an open car or cool during the day ???
And for the countryside, patrolling to the borders of the village and no further, because any rural barn will be higher than this car and be a danger to the crew!

[slan]

In armored personnel carriers, it was possible to cover the roof with tarpaulins. And I can’t imagine what to do in this machine in the rain? And indeed

Quote: AlexMH

Especially fun such cars without a roof would have looked in Russia in the winter :)

Really

Quote: zombi

These are cars for special units, and for them the lack of a roof is not a drawback, And as for ambushes in the mountains, etc., he and special forces are in order not to get ambushed on the roads, but to arrange them ourselves.

But isn't it too narrow a specialization for special operations of sabotage groups in warm, dry weather?
And so a funny machine of course. Just like a beach jeep or golf cart!

[Leisure]

Especially this miscalculation was revealed in the Hungarian events of 56 years.

[755962]

Patrol and walking option.

[rumpeljschtizhen]

I agree with Brother Sarych .... I, as he noted, is not the first time he is talking about equipment without a roof ... (as an example, the Germans in WW2) .. his arguments are not without foundation