Will the Russian aviation industry withstand competition in the global market?

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In recent months, the Russian military aviation got some pretty painful clicks on her nose. This, of course, is the failure of a number of large tenders in the markets, which have been important since the days of the Soviet Union. In addition, foreigners are in no hurry to purchase new batches of Russian-made aircraft, preferring to save on upgrading existing machines. And sometimes they are simply afraid of Russian planes, too often they fall.

On the one hand, obtaining a certificate by the protracted SuperJet-100 enabled the state to conclude a number of important contracts for dozens of MC-21 and SSJ-100. However, the law of conservation of energy continues to work, and if it has increased somewhere, it means that it has diminished somewhere: thus, the loss in the Indian market, which is traditionally considered to be “ours”, leads to dark thoughts.



Recall that in October last year it became known about the loss of Russia to the United States of America in the struggle for the right to supply India with 22 attack helicopters. Indian authorities prefer Boeing’s American Apache AH-28D Apache AH-64D to Russian Mi-XNUMXH helicopters.

Will the Russian aviation industry withstand competition in the global market?


Then France in January of this year won the tender for the supply of Indian Air Force 126 multi-purpose fourth-generation fighter Rafale. The competition was also attended by American fighters F-18 and F-16, European Typhoon of the Eurofighter consortium, as well as the Swedish Gripen NG. Russian-made MiG-35 dropped out of competition in April 2011. Note that the victory of the French partners is not final: the parties will sign the final agreement not earlier than April, and according to some reports, the UK is doing everything to prevent this deal from taking place, and the decision was made in favor of their Typhoon.

Russian MiGs will not save it. Foreign buyers of Russian-made aircraft have recently been cautious, since countries that have Russian MiGs in service have repeatedly complained about the difficulties that arise with the after-sales service of aircraft. According to representatives of the Indian side, Rosoboronexport created many difficulties in the supply of spare parts. The Indian Air Force was forced to bid for the supply of spare parts for Russian aircraft and helicopters.

Also an important point, deterring buyers, is the accident rate of Russian cars. In recent years, more than a dozen MiGs have crashed in India, they are even called “flying coffins”. They are broken in Russia. So, in September 2011, the MiG-31 crashed near Perm, both pilots died as a result of the crash. Earlier, in June of the same year, the MiG-29KUB collapsed near Astrakhan, the crew of the aircraft also died.

Another argument against the procurement of the Russian military aviation industry is the lack of need for it. During the past few years, client countries have not entered into military confrontations, this has enabled them to conserve resources for the MiGs that are in service. Others prefer to upgrade existing aircraft, which is several times cheaper than buying new ones.

Russia for another four years will remain the main supplier of India.



However, all is not lost. Russia hopes that the Ka-226T multi-purpose helicopter will win the tender involving the delivery of 197 reconnaissance and surveillance helicopters to India. The competitor of the domestic production of the machine in this tender is the helicopter AS550 C3 Fennec, developed by Eurocopter. The winner will be determined soon.

In addition, a large batch of Mi-17В-5 helicopters, which were delivered as part of the 2008 order of the year, were commissioned in India the other day. During the solemn ceremony held in India 17 February, the head of Rosoboronexport Anatoly Isaykin said that India has always been and still remains the most important partner of Russia in the sphere of military-technical cooperation, which will continue to develop steadily.



Pending an application from the United States and Russia for the supply of Indian Air Force 12 heavy transport helicopters. The Russian side offers Mi-26Т2, the American side CH-47F Chinook. According to Oleg Panteleev, the head of Aviaport Agency analytical service, these tenders are even more interesting (compared to those that were lost). As a result of 2 tenders, the Indian Air Force may sign contracts worth about 2,5-4 billions of dollars.

In general, this year Russia will supply India with military equipment and weapons worth 7,7 billions of dollars (60% of all Russian exports and 80% of Indian imports).

In the 2012, Russia intends to transfer to India around the 40 Mi-17В-5, 9 helicopters MiG-29К / KUB, 21 Su-30МКИ fighters. In the same year, programs related to the modernization of BPA Tu-142 aircraft, MiG-29 fighters, Mi-17 helicopters and individual systems will continue. In the period of 2012-2015, Russia will remain the leader in arms supplies to India, and it is difficult to judge the further development of the situation (after 2016).

The authority that has been earned over the years will not be lost just like that, but today MiG prospects are foggy. To compete with the fifth-generation modern US fighter aircraft and cheap Chinese-made aircraft is very difficult. The MiG-35 will be offered on the foreign market, but there is no special point in creating a fourth-generation fighter. According to experts, it makes sense to do unmanned technology.

However, Russia has pinned its biggest hopes on the PAK FA (T-50), a promising front-line aviation complex, which will replace the Su-27 and MiG-29 in the Russian Air Force. It is planned to start mass production in 2015 year. Also, in the framework of cooperation with India, the creation of an export version of the FGFA aircraft (fifth generation fighter) is underway.

According to the representative of the agency "Airport" Panteleev, you need to create a lot of aircraft, because if the aircraft is not operated intensively in his country, then its export capacity will not be high enough.
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  1. +1
    22 February 2012 09: 11
    Yes, last year was not the best for us in terms of winning the tender. It's a shame, because India has long been the main trading partner of our country in the arms market.
    As for the MiGs, I think that the situation at the enterprise is known to many, therefore there are so many problems with airplanes, and then there will be even more.
    It’s a pity, because I believe that competition is a healthy competition, if only to improve the rating of our country (I mean the current monopoly of Sukhovoy concern).
    But there is another pitfall here - our production, to put it mildly, does not reach the level of the 70-80s of the last century, and Pogosyan himself once said that we can make airplanes either fully fulfilling the order of Russia or fully fulfilling the order of foreign customers . Of course, they choose money, that is. Foreigners, and our state defense order will then be reached. This is another reason for the breakdowns.
    From another country, you can not let our competitors select our customers, because only we have been missing out on contracts with regular partners recently, which means we have to try production so that we can do the full sale and deliver everything to us on time. And this task is not one year ...
    1. +5
      22 February 2012 09: 47
      God with you. Such contracts are determined by the number of suitcases listed in the necessary cabinets but not in any way TTX products.
      A striking example is the same Rafal and MiG-35. I am absolutely sure that the TTX Mig is better, but everything was decided by the dough with a very big dough.
      Once the conversation came about India, they always tried to diversify the supply of weapons.
      1. +7
        22 February 2012 11: 12
        The thing is different: aviation survived the crisis much longer than the rest of the aircraft.
        Why are we falling? Aircraft have been idle for years without maintenance. For example, we have a small military air base near the city (airfield?): There are some planes there for years, you can say abandoned. There are no specialists to bring them back into operation. After that, they still wonder why the planes are falling.
        As for India, most claims (for any technique) disappear after the investigation. For example, the last of our aircraft crashed there happened through the fault of pilots who wanted to show off.

        You can change the situation quite quickly, increasing the qualification of aircraft maintenance and not skimp on spare parts.
        1. 0
          22 February 2012 12: 01
          The fact that they stood for years is a plus resource glider did not come out.
          Mostly Su-24s fall, which is VERY difficult to pilot.
          A planes such as Ivanovo fly a lot and planned.
          With tinning, everything is fine and screaming about bad parts is like with an arjun that it’s like better than the T-90S
          1. Wolkin
            +3
            22 February 2012 16: 59
            You're not right. The resource is not limited to flying hours only. The aircraft is assigned by flying hours and by operating time. For example: 1000 flying hours or 7 years of operation. Those. if the plane has not flown for a single hour, but stood for 7 years, then it is undergoing major repairs,
            everything is disassembled, examined, checked, etc. according to the documents.

            Mostly Su-24s fall, which is VERY difficult to pilot.

            So the level of training of the flight crew is insufficient for this type of aircraft.

            Questions: Who is to blame for the fact that expensive aircraft is idle?
            Maybe this is directly related to the training of the flight crew?
            1. VAF
              VAF
              -1
              22 February 2012 19: 06
              For Wolkin /
              1. A little is not right: 1000 hours of overhaul resource and 7 years of the calendar, if the overhaul and overdue calendar is not worked out, the last one is extended, up to the appointed one, subject to the mandatory fulfillment of the necessary bulletins, but if the overhaul flew out, but there is still a calendar, then only capital
              2. With the second part I agree, low training and low level of training of the flight crew, which occurs for a number of reasons!
            2. +1
              22 February 2012 20: 46
              Yes, I forgot about the raid of pilots: in general, a separate problem.
          2. VAF
            VAF
            -1
            22 February 2012 18: 52
            According to data as of January 1, 2012, as a result of catastrophes and serious accidents, 64 Il-76 aircraft and 9 An-22 aircraft were lost.
            And do not confuse the battle and transport!
            It's not good to talk about it at all, but we have 1, well, 2 dead, and you have a "mass grave"!
      2. jamert
        0
        22 February 2012 15: 10
        Such contracts are determined by the number of suitcases listed in the necessary cabinets but not in any way TTX products.


        Did you personally carry your suitcases and check the performance characteristics?
        Rafal is a mass-produced machine that even took part in hostilities. And how many MiG-35s did they build?

        And Theme http://www.militaryparitet.com/perevodnie/data/ic_perevodnie/2273/
      3. 755962
        +1
        22 February 2012 16: 15
        The French were really desperate with their "Rafal", that it all went out suspiciously smoothly. It's strange ...
      4. 0
        22 February 2012 21: 02
        "The head of Rosoboronexport, Anatoly Isaikin, said ..." I would like to draw your attention to this cantor. I have heard many words from the flyers in her address: Got drunk, got sick, etc. and the like .... quite realistically it made a big part of the rejection of purchases. "This year Russia will supply India with military equipment and weapons worth $ 7,7 billion (60% of all Russian exports and 80% of Indian imports)." I think not everything is so sad Gentlemen.
    2. DEATH UWB
      -2
      22 February 2012 15: 59
      Poland are you from there
  2. +1
    22 February 2012 10: 44
    The export of weapons is vital for Russia, it is also the financing of our own defense industry, and the development of the existing one. After World War II, France, thanks to arms exports, emerged from a critical situation.
    1. VAF
      VAF
      -1
      22 February 2012 19: 30
      That's just how Vladimir Vysotsky sang in the song ".... where is the money Zin"?
  3. DEATH UWB
    +2
    22 February 2012 10: 57
    the author of the article apparently does not know what all of Asia flies on
  4. black_eagle
    +7
    22 February 2012 11: 12
    "In 2012, Russia intends to transfer to India 12 Su-30MKI fighters, about 40 Mi-17V-5 helicopters, 9 MiG-29K / KUB carrier-based fighters, 21 Su-30MKI fighters."
    I don’t catch up with how many SU-30MKI will be delivered?
    And one more thing you can’t win all the time, otherwise you can get sick with a star fever, a loss indicates flaws, which allows them to be fixed, to make the car better, more reliable, so not everything is so bad))))
    1. VAF
      VAF
      -1
      22 February 2012 19: 14
      For Black_tagele
      I support you, but we must also abandon the vicious practice of carrying only models and stands to the showrooms, but it would not hurt to demonstrate not only experimental machines, but also aircraft ready for mass production, but there is a car, we can make, buy, and we we will build production with your money and then we will do for you, i.e. in Russian "on a stranger .... to enter paradise"! This does not happen now!
      And the lack of a result is the same result!
  5. Ragnarov
    +1
    22 February 2012 12: 10
    In any case: the defenders lack market thinking. They rely too much on the state. order.
    Training of professional managers, market analysis, creation of competitive advantages and customer focus - as if not for them.
    And it’s not so much the engineers and R&D, but the approach of senior managers of the military-industrial complex
    It's time to understand that the defense industry is a business, and act accordingly.
    1. VAF
      VAF
      -1
      22 February 2012 19: 19
      He said very "cleverly", especially about the "MIC managers".
      So you go into any "stall" and you will see a badge with the words Manager!
      And about the concept of management and marketing, no concept!
      You just have to be professional and military, because. selling military equipment!
  6. dred
    0
    22 February 2012 14: 01
    Apparently this year there are a lot of teders. Well, good luck to our aviation industry.
  7. -1
    22 February 2012 15: 33
    the point is the psychology of the seller. sold the car (plane) and forgot, let the owner break his head now how to service it in a quality and timely manner. everything is as in life. both in our car services, and in military service companies. people are the same. get paid too. often the directors are former loafers, and trusting a citizen is not impossible, everything will fail.
    1. DEATH UWB
      0
      22 February 2012 16: 00
      She has the same after-sales service. rem base
      1. 0
        23 February 2012 10: 05
        there is of course, but did he guarantee the car itself? that hemorrhage.
    2. VAF
      VAF
      -2
      22 February 2012 19: 27
      Here you are respected with the ending very excited.
      Your Taburetkin is just yours, civilian, so he has already broken so much wood that you cannot take it out. "
      And all because military practices were removed from the factories, marriage and substandard went
      (to list how many equipment was returned or abandoned to us or do you know yourself?).
      And your civilian, so-called "managers", do not even know what technical support is and what a technical periodical is needed, but you have all the service and service!
      Aviation technology is not "Yo-mobile" -stuck in the key, she went, arrived, slammed the door and left!
      1. -1
        23 February 2012 10: 03
        veteran.air force,
        Your Taburetkin is just yours, civilian, so he has already broken so much wood that you cannot take it out. "
        it was with him that some kind of progress began in the army. financing, exercises. all finally opened their eyes and saw how and how many generals steal. I also want to remind you that under the civilian minister, the Russian army won the war, the first in recent history. and about military representatives, yes, they were effective at the beginning and middle of the last century, when they were personally responsible, later in the years 70-90 they just sat on the salary of the Moscow Region and ate vodka and again stole.
        1. VAF
          VAF
          0
          23 February 2012 14: 33
          core,
          and about military representatives, yes, they were effective at the beginning and middle of the last century, when they were personally responsible, later in the years 70-90 they just sat on the salary of the Moscow Region and ate vodka and again stole.

          Well what can I say to that, yes .... "how are you all running!"
  8. alex_9797
    +1
    22 February 2012 16: 34
    Russia and the US will have to fight tightly for leadership
    1. VAF
      VAF
      0
      22 February 2012 19: 28
      But I hope they will try!
      1. alex_9797
        -3
        22 February 2012 20: 32
        Honestly, the United States aviation is much better ((
        1. VAF
          VAF
          -1
          22 February 2012 21: 20
          Very, very controversial and generally "sweeping statement"
          After all, better or worse is determined by a huge number of ratings!
          And you, dear, as you can see, are very "far" from aviation?
          1. alex_9797
            0
            23 February 2012 00: 10
            veteran.airforce, for example, with the USA, the F-22 Raptor flew in 1991 and it is 5 generations and the PAK Fa took off in Toko in 2010. The USA already has F-35s in 3 models and it is also 5 generations. So you don’t need to tell me that the USA has sucks and we have RUSSIANS. Compare the raid of the American pilot and Russian for a start and do not minus me PATRIOTS
            1. VAF
              VAF
              0
              23 February 2012 01: 31
              Well, firstly, I never minus anyone, because. every person has his own opinion, so why should I dissuade him?
              He has his own, and mine has his own, and the proof of the correctness of one or the fallacy of the other is either only proved by objective facts!
              Show me where I told you that the US sucks aviation?
              Is there something I can’t find in my three sentences addressed to you?
              I have not had a chance to fly the Su-27s, but I talked with very many pilots and with those who had to "face" directly in air battles with American technology, then I will tell you one thing that if there was an advantage, it was only in avionics. and PrNK, and even then a small one, in all other parameters and even more so, there was a large lag since I will tell you a family of these machines of type C, SM, B, BM, all 30s, not to mention 35, can be safely considered aircraft very close to the criteria of the 5th generation!
              And note that when the amers did the machinery, we Yolkin and Mechen killed the country, and then you yourself know everything, so what the heck did aviation need.
              But the "extreme" events, and then the elections, make the rulers move a little and move the military-industrial complex, which is not quite "killed by them".
              I agree that the T-50 is still just an empty box and he is still waiting for the plane, but give it time, and with the 35th the example is not successful, almost the same is still a prototype and all TTZ on it is "bursting" at the seams!
              On a raid I agree with you on all counts-
              amers had a week more than I did in two months (well, when I didn’t fight of course), I don’t even remember about the simulator, they have a norm of 40 hours per month on each of their airbases, otherwise they won’t be allowed to fly, but we are only in the division, and then in the army, there’s nothing to say about the regiments!
              But then Amer in the morning without freshly squeezed juice, coffee, warm water and so on. etc. hell where he will fly and he will live like that, for that we are in a trench and a jail with a coast, or in a tent, or in a kung, or even the devil knows where to go up, peressal, start up and go!
              That's where patriotism is, and not these ostentatious looks at the star-striped flag, with a hand at the heart and a mean male tear! (Don't think that I'm teasing them or something else, it's just for comparison, so to speak "in contrast" !
              Well, basically, that's all, bye!
    2. fktrctqxbr
      +1
      22 February 2012 23: 41
      Alex can be trusted
      Fact. In general, our defense industry sucks. Kadvi OJSC enterprises produce engines for civil aviation and military aircraft. They also assemble motor blocks and what do you think, they put Japanese and American engines there.

      A plant that makes engines by itself cannot cope and make a normal engine for a moto-cultivator. And what does it say about military equipment, they’re just scammers, they’re just peeling off grandmas for nothing, and they’re shit. Of course, some company is doomed to bankruptcy, without state support. fool fool fool angry angry angry

      While we will close our eyes to the low quality of our military-industrial complex, we have every chance of becoming a country which will be called "Hands from Gopa" sad sad sad crying crying crying
      1. alex_9797
        0
        23 February 2012 00: 06
        fktrctqxbr completely agree with you
  9. serezha.fedotoff2013
    0
    22 February 2012 19: 03
    The failure of the MiG-35 in the Indian tender was solely the Indians' unwillingness to put all their eggs in one basket, because the MiG-29KUB (deck-based analogue of the MiG-35) was purchased without problems, no complaints were made, in particular to the engines.
    1. VAF
      VAF
      +1
      22 February 2012 21: 36
      "Buy" something seems to be so far not quite?
      Ship "MiG" flew past the deck
      The Ministry of Defense rejects the MiG-29 due to revealed problems with on-board electronics
      At the MAKS-2011 air show on August 16, it turned out that the Ministry of Defense refused to purchase 24 aircraft from the RSK MiG for the aircraft-carrying cruiser Admiral Kuznetsov. Not only is the car inferior in performance to the heavier Su-33, it also turned out that it has problems with the onboard electronics. In addition, it is still unclear why the plane crashed two months ago during tests in Akhtubinsk - it literally collapsed in the air during a difficult maneuver.
      The electronics of the shipborne MiG was originally created for deliveries to India. In 2004 this country bought the cruiser "Admiral Gorshkov" and 29 aircraft from us. This contract has not yet been completed.
      Western components in the native "stuffing" of aircraft are incompatible with Russian equipment. Therefore, for the Ministry of Defense, RSK "MiG" re-equipped the aircraft with Russian instruments - their quality did not suit the customer.
      The military is also talking about the overpriced aircraft.
      RAC "MiG" plans to finalize the onboard electronics and sign a contract by the end of the year. "Otherwise, the enterprise is threatened with closure after the Indian contract is fulfilled," said Alexander Khramchikhin, deputy director of the Institute for Military Analysis.
      The only possible alternative to the MiG is the Su-33 fighter of the Sukhoi company. Its combat effectiveness was confirmed on 17 August during an exercise in the Barents Sea, during which two dozen Su-33s successfully boarded the Admiral Kuznetsov cruiser on the open sea and returned to base. China is also showing interest in this aircraft, which has not yet created such a machine for its aircraft carriers.
      “The MiG-29 is physically newer, since the Su-33 was made in the 1990s, and in all other respects it is inferior,” Khramchikhin admits.
      The problem is that the Su-33 has not been produced for four years.
      “It will take two or three years to restore its production in Komsomolsk-on-Amur or another plant,” explained a representative of the United Aircraft Building Company, which includes all Russian aircraft factories and design bureaus.
      The negotiations between the Ministry of Defense and RSK MiG are continuing, but they are complicated by another problem. Two months ago, during tests, a MiG-29K in a two-pilot version ("spark") crashed. Test pilots Alexander Kruzhalin and Oleg Spichka were killed.
      The causes of the accident have not yet been established. According to preliminary data, the folding part of the wing fell off the plane, possibly not having endured overloads.
      Meanwhile, the Indians themselves "are not asleep":
      Presented to your attention LCA Tejas (LCA):
      Outline design of the aircraft began in the second quarter of 1987 and was completed at the end of 1988. The work was carried out by Dasso in contact with the Indian government (their cost was $ 10 million).
      In the late 1990s, work was underway on a carrier-based version of the LCA fighter (this machine is also created using a three-dimensional computer database, without building a full-scale model). The commonality in avionics of carrier-based and ground-based LCA fighters is 99%. However, the naval version of the LCA should have a slightly modified control system, a modernized "chilled" engine, a chassis with increased shock absorbers travel, allowing landing on the deck of an aircraft carrier with a high vertical speed and taking off from a springboard. The deck fighter's glider has been reinforced. The nose of the fuselage with a radio-transparent radome on the radar is lowered down, which improves the pilot's view when landing on the deck of the ship. At the root of the wing, it is planned to install additional vortex-forming rotary surfaces that act as VGO. All these changes should lead to an increase in the weight of the airframe by 500 kg in comparison with the coast-based fighter. Significant changes should affect the fuel system of the carrier-based fighter: a means of quick fuel drainage is provided for an emergency landing on the deck shortly after take-off.
      Takeoff deck fighter should be carried out by means of a springboard, without the use of a catapult. Landing on the deck - using the aerofinisher and brake hook. The small size of the fighter allows you to do without the folding system of the wing, which is characteristic of most other modern carrier-based fighters.
      The decked version of the LCA fighter is supposed to be used on board a promising light aircraft carrier with a displacement of about 20 tons (according to other sources - about 000 tons), intended primarily for solving the problems of gaining air supremacy and air defense. This ship is planned to be built at an Indian shipyard. Currently, the Indian Navy is financing the creation of a special modeling booth designed to test LCA flights from the deck of an aircraft carrier.
      The Indian Air Force, together with the industry, are considering plans for the further development of the LCA aircraft. In particular, it is planned to significantly reduce the radar signature of the vehicle by using new radio-absorbing coatings, which have been developed in India in an environment of increased secrecy since the 1980s. Combined with the small size of the airframe, the new coatings should give the fighter stealth characteristics close to those of Stealth aircraft.
      The main one-wheel chassis supports are retracted by means of a hydraulic drive into the fuselage compartments located on the sides of the air intake channels. The front two-wheel support is retracted into the iodine compartment by the forward-upward rotation of the cockpit. The wheels are equipped with carbon brakes, there is an automated system for controlling the braking process. In the rear of the fuselage, in a container under the keel, a brake parachute is placed.
      1. Nickname
        0
        23 February 2012 05: 05
        Kuznetsov will need to get out of repair
  10. serezha.fedotoff2013
    0
    23 February 2012 00: 37
    Quote: veteran.air force
    "Buy" something seems to be so far not quite?

    Hindus in the MiG-29KUB all arranged.
    1. VAF
      VAF
      -1
      23 February 2012 01: 39
      Quote: serezha.fedotoff2013
      Hindus in the MiG-29KUB all arranged.

      I didn’t mean it, but the fact that the contract is still far from completion and the Indians are not sitting still and waiting for the weather by the sea, but are engaged in their own development!
      That's all!
      And let's write correctly MiG-29K / KUB.
      If you are interested, then I can prove that the Indians in “they were not satisfied with everything!” Although I have already very briefly discarded this in my previous “big comment”!
      But I think that Mikoyanovtsy will have time to at least fix something and do
  11. 0
    17 January 2015 13: 22
    It’s sad, but not catastrophic. We need improvements and everything will work out.