“We drank, we drink and we will drink! Otherwise, do not live! ”A conversation with a participant in the ATO
Suddenly and completely unexpectedly, I was able to communicate with the current ATO member in the rank of almost a real lieutenant. It was like this: in the evening I dialed one of my Kiev talkers in skype and found him in a rather bright state of mind and body. The reason was a visit to the nephew, who serves in the APU.
Plemyash arrived in Kiev for replenishment. And, since my interlocutors had pretty well gone before, we did succeed in talking. I am very sorry that the recording of the conversation itself can not be laid out for a good reason. They spoke like Russian and Ukrainian, talked about the affairs of the army and a little about politics, which means that the terms denoting different organs, organoids and other elements of our existence flew in the information space in flocks.
But no language and political barrier. I repent, to understand and save my nerves, I had to follow the Ukrainian side on my side of Skype. It was unreal to overtake and overtake, but at least some understanding of Ukrainian porridge in the head of Letech and the security of one’s own psyche cost a big head the next morning.
The situation is funniest. At the screens sit two organisms, which are in principle on different sides of the barricades and talk about military life. Directly teleconference. I’ll almost omit the political aspects, because my interlocutor was only 24, a little old, and with the word “Putin,” his reflex worked no worse than Pavlov’s dog. Normally trained, I will not say anything.
However, for the sake of justice, I note that the reaction to the code words Poroshenko and Yanukovych was about the same. I asked a provocative question: well, Putin, everything is clear. And you have something, who? “*** *****!” Was the answer. "We have everything as one, ****** and ******".
So, like, and live.
Porridge, of course, Seryoga in his head - no dope is needed. Hard drugs seem just kefir, if all this is taken, overtaken and consumed.
And what to expect from him, in principle? He studied at the institute, like all smart, regularly paid for the military department, which was a real otmazy from the army. And the year before last, the kiddy came out in full. All the deputies were recognized as real officers and called. And sent to where? Right there. Because in ATO you can only type contract soldiers, and the officer is actually a double bass.
Seryoga was lucky with the profile, and he got into the SME auto truck. Already the commander of the department. Say, dope? A lieutenant shouldn't command a squad? Should not, I agree. This is if the lieutenant. And not a "jacket." In the APU, oddly enough, not all clinical idiots are also, and they understand that everything is not so beautiful, it’s not worth doing worse. A body with lieutenant epaulets, not sniffing military service, perhaps in a position to command.
So they recall Seryoga's epaulets when they need to appoint someone guilty or send them somewhere. For example, like this time, for replenishment. And in ordinary military life, a lieutenant is nothing more than the rest of the drivers.
What can Moskal talk with the Ukrainian military so as not to touch anything like that? In general, about many things. More precisely, in the heat of the moment, Seryoga told me a lot. As a person who mostly travels between the front and the warehouse, the driver is still a treasure for the ears. Because it communicates with all units of the regiment.
I discovered for myself the fact that the barter, which a couple of years ago took place between the APU and the militia, actually came to an end. If earlier this business was really not what it was, but even flourished, now it has faded away. Previously, ammunition was quite normal for the APU in exchange for fuel, for example, now there was nothing to change. The reserves on the Ukrainian side are still huge, but what is fresher has already been shot, and what is brought is not interesting for the militia. Its there.
The quality of ammunition was awarded two buckets of the mat. If boxes with markings of 50-70-s get into the warhead - this is really a holiday. This can both fight and be considered as a subject of barter. Stocks from the 40-ies - "rotten", and the modern "chudyat."
This was especially true min. Apparently, the fact that they are “wonderful” is the cause of increased injuries and mortality in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Therefore, if you suddenly have to carry modern mines, then the drivers load them on the part of the body furthest from the cab.
The maximum that today can be of interest to “that” side is with spare parts for equipment. This good is still in bulk, which means you can get fuel for yourself in return. In both senses of the word.
The main subject of bargaining today is alcohol and its derivatives. Moreover, even if it was possible to nadybat diesel or gasoline, they are also spent on alcohol-containing products or the extraction of these.
About the use of strong, fortified and slightly diluted products, my interlocutor could talk endlessly. I generally had the impression that everything that happens on the front line is just an excuse for drinking, and she is the mover of the whole process.
It even seemed that today we take away the alcohol from the front line, and in a week the sober army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine simply deserts. By the way, Sergey has partially confirmed this to me, saying that it’s simply so unreal to be sober. That's why they drink.
I decided to poke a buddy to warm up. But what about the bans on the sale of alcohol throughout the ATO line, as the opinion of the highest authorities? In response, there was an inhuman roar ...
If this roar is translated into human language, then the following has turned out: all these inventors of orders and laws can go to ATO in even rows, and he will return to his favorite automobile plant. But while this does not happen, they drank, they drink and they will drink. Otherwise, simply not survive in the army sober. At least in his environment, he does not know such masochist experimenters.
Drink everything. Someone more, someone less, but everything. The only question is quantity and quality. Undoubtedly, who has access to what can be exchanged and sold, they drink better quality. Who has money is the same. But money doesn't always decide, by the way. Life exchange is preferable, especially on the “other” side.
The ban on the sale of alcohol in the ATO zone turned the booze into a kind of sport. And naturally, it gave birth to those who do not have anything, the opportunity to drive a couple of liters by cold (and no one stops before hot) spinning. “And if we find it,” many people take it upon themselves.
And up to a certain point, they gladly went to attacks on populated areas in neutral territory. Precisely because it was possible to get what was required there. And mined. Even the case in one of the battalions of the regiment does not stop, when 5 people left this world, and doctors still seriously fought for the life of a dozen more. The “trophy” from the separatist side turned out to be “with trick”.
I asked: what is the meaning of such drinking? The fact that it is harmful for the body to plump without waking up is naturally a kindergarten, a younger group. But there must be some justification for everything that is happening, so, not for an otmaza, but purely humanely?
If you even agree that all the drunks and drug addicts are taken to the Ukrainian Armed Forces (which is hardly an example of this), and accidentally normal people get a few exceptions, then they, exceptions, it turns out, they also start to drink, so as not to stand out?
It turns out no. And a certain philosophy in rampant alcoholism is present. Firstly, this desire to somehow abstract away from reality. But the reality today is such that the majority of those involved in the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not see prospects for themselves. You will not earn money, and if you earn, then the chance to lose is great. This is right our army started 2000's. The second is that if something happens to you, in any case, in order not to spoil the statistics and not pay the pension, a case will be drawn, in which, in any case, the APU warrior will remain incomprehensible. Third, the title “veteran of the ATO”, as well as “the participant of the ATO”, does not give anything.
We add here the eternal problems with the supply, ranging from the form and products and ending with "wonderful" ammunition, which either arrive at the militia position, or arrive at residential buildings, or even kill some more ukrovoins at the place of the shot.
And this is despite the fact that, according to the statements of the High Command, large (by Ukrainian standards) money is spent on the Armed Forces of Ukraine. “Chu, who bachil those hryvnias?” - not my words.
In general, the Armed Forces of Ukraine is a place where a Trezvianke simply does not live. Even somehow, I confess honestly, imbued with an understanding of the prevailing hopelessness. APU - like a prison or something like that. Got - just not get off. Swept the contract - not Noah, silently thump.
But understanding does not mean sympathizing. These are different things. In the end, my guilt is that they have such a mess going on, it seems, no.
It turns out there is. But this is already on the topic of cereal in the head.
With considerable surprise I discovered newsthat an ordinary alcoholic from the SBU is well aware that there were no armored expedition Altai divisions. And the “Armat” that burned their “Strongholds”, too.
But everything is much worse.
It’s good to Sergei to think that they, that is, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, are guarding the integrity of Ukraine. And the APU is the only thing that prevents the collapse of the country and the withdrawal of Donbass to Russia according to the Crimean scenario. And for Donetsk and Lugansk and all the rest. Serega is from the Lviv region, and he told me that Lviv, it is, of course, nothing like that, but Lemberg definitely would have been better.
But - Putin. Without it, of course, nothing. I was surprised to find out, behind the trenches in which Donbass people sit, there are full-fledged personnel units of the RF Armed Forces. Stand, stand. And well worth it. And each of those who are on the front line or near it (clerk, cook and so on ...) will tell you a bunch of facts confirming this. The only pity is that those who need these facts are not shown on the front line. Because such clowning and nonsense in the media.
So, Putin’s troops are standing behind the militia. That is ours. And often punish the gunners and mortar APU. And spetsnaz saboteurs in general under the cover of darkness create horror in regard to the commanding staff.
If it were not for this, then the APU would have taken Donetsk and Lugansk long ago. And in this respect it is unreal.
I could not stand it, and asked a provocative question. Well, count up, you wake up with babakhs, jump out of the tent and see with your naked eye on the approaches to your positions not the assorted militiamen, but dressed in the "figure" of very real "green polite men" shuruyuschikh in your direction. What are your actions?
And the actions will be simple. Tick. In all seriousness of the moment, it’s not ticking to Kiev, but to Lvov. Because it will be haplyk, that is, the final, of this show.
And no one will particularly rip, because it is absolutely unclear how much worse it will be if you really capture us. Russia Ukraine. We thought about it, but these thoughts are not simple, so it’s impossible to think about this topic without a proper amount of stupid things. But we are sure that sooner or later this will happen. We will go to the Donbass, the Donbass will rise to Kiev, yours will go to us - everything is the same here, we are stuck between the anvil and the hammer.
So we are thumping from the realization that wherever we throw, there is a wedge everywhere.
So we have a booze - it's just like a defense of the psyche. Otherwise, the main thing is not to play avatars. “Avatars” here is a special caste for those who have already fallen completely. This is who eats all that falls under the arm, not even thinking about the consequences. Well, dying, by the way, mostly "avatars". But I say, it is generally an expendable material, nobody regrets them, neither we nor the command. Why pity them if any “avatar” is not here already?
It is their cells planted here and there, because they are dangerous. Well, riotous. We do not do that, the cell is really not human. We in the battalion are pillories, they are planted on plastic ties. Until the moment of humanization, that is, until at least a little start to think. And not for the night, of course.
And all these stories, how to fight with drunkenness ... All inspectors and inspectors didn’t call in any further staff. Scary. And us? And us too. So they drank, we drink, and we will continue ... to survive. It is now such a setting for life. The main thing is to finish off the contract, knock it over, and then let Putin do what he wants.
Plemyash arrived in Kiev for replenishment. And, since my interlocutors had pretty well gone before, we did succeed in talking. I am very sorry that the recording of the conversation itself can not be laid out for a good reason. They spoke like Russian and Ukrainian, talked about the affairs of the army and a little about politics, which means that the terms denoting different organs, organoids and other elements of our existence flew in the information space in flocks.
But no language and political barrier. I repent, to understand and save my nerves, I had to follow the Ukrainian side on my side of Skype. It was unreal to overtake and overtake, but at least some understanding of Ukrainian porridge in the head of Letech and the security of one’s own psyche cost a big head the next morning.
The situation is funniest. At the screens sit two organisms, which are in principle on different sides of the barricades and talk about military life. Directly teleconference. I’ll almost omit the political aspects, because my interlocutor was only 24, a little old, and with the word “Putin,” his reflex worked no worse than Pavlov’s dog. Normally trained, I will not say anything.
However, for the sake of justice, I note that the reaction to the code words Poroshenko and Yanukovych was about the same. I asked a provocative question: well, Putin, everything is clear. And you have something, who? “*** *****!” Was the answer. "We have everything as one, ****** and ******".
So, like, and live.
Porridge, of course, Seryoga in his head - no dope is needed. Hard drugs seem just kefir, if all this is taken, overtaken and consumed.
And what to expect from him, in principle? He studied at the institute, like all smart, regularly paid for the military department, which was a real otmazy from the army. And the year before last, the kiddy came out in full. All the deputies were recognized as real officers and called. And sent to where? Right there. Because in ATO you can only type contract soldiers, and the officer is actually a double bass.
Seryoga was lucky with the profile, and he got into the SME auto truck. Already the commander of the department. Say, dope? A lieutenant shouldn't command a squad? Should not, I agree. This is if the lieutenant. And not a "jacket." In the APU, oddly enough, not all clinical idiots are also, and they understand that everything is not so beautiful, it’s not worth doing worse. A body with lieutenant epaulets, not sniffing military service, perhaps in a position to command.
So they recall Seryoga's epaulets when they need to appoint someone guilty or send them somewhere. For example, like this time, for replenishment. And in ordinary military life, a lieutenant is nothing more than the rest of the drivers.
What can Moskal talk with the Ukrainian military so as not to touch anything like that? In general, about many things. More precisely, in the heat of the moment, Seryoga told me a lot. As a person who mostly travels between the front and the warehouse, the driver is still a treasure for the ears. Because it communicates with all units of the regiment.
I discovered for myself the fact that the barter, which a couple of years ago took place between the APU and the militia, actually came to an end. If earlier this business was really not what it was, but even flourished, now it has faded away. Previously, ammunition was quite normal for the APU in exchange for fuel, for example, now there was nothing to change. The reserves on the Ukrainian side are still huge, but what is fresher has already been shot, and what is brought is not interesting for the militia. Its there.
The quality of ammunition was awarded two buckets of the mat. If boxes with markings of 50-70-s get into the warhead - this is really a holiday. This can both fight and be considered as a subject of barter. Stocks from the 40-ies - "rotten", and the modern "chudyat."
This was especially true min. Apparently, the fact that they are “wonderful” is the cause of increased injuries and mortality in the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Therefore, if you suddenly have to carry modern mines, then the drivers load them on the part of the body furthest from the cab.
The maximum that today can be of interest to “that” side is with spare parts for equipment. This good is still in bulk, which means you can get fuel for yourself in return. In both senses of the word.
The main subject of bargaining today is alcohol and its derivatives. Moreover, even if it was possible to nadybat diesel or gasoline, they are also spent on alcohol-containing products or the extraction of these.
About the use of strong, fortified and slightly diluted products, my interlocutor could talk endlessly. I generally had the impression that everything that happens on the front line is just an excuse for drinking, and she is the mover of the whole process.
It even seemed that today we take away the alcohol from the front line, and in a week the sober army of the Armed Forces of Ukraine simply deserts. By the way, Sergey has partially confirmed this to me, saying that it’s simply so unreal to be sober. That's why they drink.
I decided to poke a buddy to warm up. But what about the bans on the sale of alcohol throughout the ATO line, as the opinion of the highest authorities? In response, there was an inhuman roar ...
If this roar is translated into human language, then the following has turned out: all these inventors of orders and laws can go to ATO in even rows, and he will return to his favorite automobile plant. But while this does not happen, they drank, they drink and they will drink. Otherwise, simply not survive in the army sober. At least in his environment, he does not know such masochist experimenters.
Drink everything. Someone more, someone less, but everything. The only question is quantity and quality. Undoubtedly, who has access to what can be exchanged and sold, they drink better quality. Who has money is the same. But money doesn't always decide, by the way. Life exchange is preferable, especially on the “other” side.
The ban on the sale of alcohol in the ATO zone turned the booze into a kind of sport. And naturally, it gave birth to those who do not have anything, the opportunity to drive a couple of liters by cold (and no one stops before hot) spinning. “And if we find it,” many people take it upon themselves.
And up to a certain point, they gladly went to attacks on populated areas in neutral territory. Precisely because it was possible to get what was required there. And mined. Even the case in one of the battalions of the regiment does not stop, when 5 people left this world, and doctors still seriously fought for the life of a dozen more. The “trophy” from the separatist side turned out to be “with trick”.
I asked: what is the meaning of such drinking? The fact that it is harmful for the body to plump without waking up is naturally a kindergarten, a younger group. But there must be some justification for everything that is happening, so, not for an otmaza, but purely humanely?
If you even agree that all the drunks and drug addicts are taken to the Ukrainian Armed Forces (which is hardly an example of this), and accidentally normal people get a few exceptions, then they, exceptions, it turns out, they also start to drink, so as not to stand out?
It turns out no. And a certain philosophy in rampant alcoholism is present. Firstly, this desire to somehow abstract away from reality. But the reality today is such that the majority of those involved in the Armed Forces of Ukraine do not see prospects for themselves. You will not earn money, and if you earn, then the chance to lose is great. This is right our army started 2000's. The second is that if something happens to you, in any case, in order not to spoil the statistics and not pay the pension, a case will be drawn, in which, in any case, the APU warrior will remain incomprehensible. Third, the title “veteran of the ATO”, as well as “the participant of the ATO”, does not give anything.
We add here the eternal problems with the supply, ranging from the form and products and ending with "wonderful" ammunition, which either arrive at the militia position, or arrive at residential buildings, or even kill some more ukrovoins at the place of the shot.
And this is despite the fact that, according to the statements of the High Command, large (by Ukrainian standards) money is spent on the Armed Forces of Ukraine. “Chu, who bachil those hryvnias?” - not my words.
In general, the Armed Forces of Ukraine is a place where a Trezvianke simply does not live. Even somehow, I confess honestly, imbued with an understanding of the prevailing hopelessness. APU - like a prison or something like that. Got - just not get off. Swept the contract - not Noah, silently thump.
But understanding does not mean sympathizing. These are different things. In the end, my guilt is that they have such a mess going on, it seems, no.
It turns out there is. But this is already on the topic of cereal in the head.
With considerable surprise I discovered newsthat an ordinary alcoholic from the SBU is well aware that there were no armored expedition Altai divisions. And the “Armat” that burned their “Strongholds”, too.
But everything is much worse.
It’s good to Sergei to think that they, that is, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, are guarding the integrity of Ukraine. And the APU is the only thing that prevents the collapse of the country and the withdrawal of Donbass to Russia according to the Crimean scenario. And for Donetsk and Lugansk and all the rest. Serega is from the Lviv region, and he told me that Lviv, it is, of course, nothing like that, but Lemberg definitely would have been better.
But - Putin. Without it, of course, nothing. I was surprised to find out, behind the trenches in which Donbass people sit, there are full-fledged personnel units of the RF Armed Forces. Stand, stand. And well worth it. And each of those who are on the front line or near it (clerk, cook and so on ...) will tell you a bunch of facts confirming this. The only pity is that those who need these facts are not shown on the front line. Because such clowning and nonsense in the media.
So, Putin’s troops are standing behind the militia. That is ours. And often punish the gunners and mortar APU. And spetsnaz saboteurs in general under the cover of darkness create horror in regard to the commanding staff.
If it were not for this, then the APU would have taken Donetsk and Lugansk long ago. And in this respect it is unreal.
I could not stand it, and asked a provocative question. Well, count up, you wake up with babakhs, jump out of the tent and see with your naked eye on the approaches to your positions not the assorted militiamen, but dressed in the "figure" of very real "green polite men" shuruyuschikh in your direction. What are your actions?
And the actions will be simple. Tick. In all seriousness of the moment, it’s not ticking to Kiev, but to Lvov. Because it will be haplyk, that is, the final, of this show.
And no one will particularly rip, because it is absolutely unclear how much worse it will be if you really capture us. Russia Ukraine. We thought about it, but these thoughts are not simple, so it’s impossible to think about this topic without a proper amount of stupid things. But we are sure that sooner or later this will happen. We will go to the Donbass, the Donbass will rise to Kiev, yours will go to us - everything is the same here, we are stuck between the anvil and the hammer.
So we are thumping from the realization that wherever we throw, there is a wedge everywhere.
So we have a booze - it's just like a defense of the psyche. Otherwise, the main thing is not to play avatars. “Avatars” here is a special caste for those who have already fallen completely. This is who eats all that falls under the arm, not even thinking about the consequences. Well, dying, by the way, mostly "avatars". But I say, it is generally an expendable material, nobody regrets them, neither we nor the command. Why pity them if any “avatar” is not here already?
It is their cells planted here and there, because they are dangerous. Well, riotous. We do not do that, the cell is really not human. We in the battalion are pillories, they are planted on plastic ties. Until the moment of humanization, that is, until at least a little start to think. And not for the night, of course.
And all these stories, how to fight with drunkenness ... All inspectors and inspectors didn’t call in any further staff. Scary. And us? And us too. So they drank, we drink, and we will continue ... to survive. It is now such a setting for life. The main thing is to finish off the contract, knock it over, and then let Putin do what he wants.
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