Nibelun degeneration

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One of the goals of creating a NATO bloc in 1949 was to control Germany, while it was only Western. At the same time, the FRG turned out to be on a potential front line - on the main line of the expected strike by the troops of the Warsaw Pact. And the Bundeswehr became the main force of NATO in Europe.

To help him in the territory of the Federal Republic of Germany, powerful contingents of the armed forces of the United States, Great Britain, France, Canada, Holland, Belgium, deployed in two army groups of the army and two air armies were deployed.



After the reunification of Germany in 1990, the Bundeswehr achieved enormous combat power - 7000 tanks, 8900 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, 4600 guns, mortars and MLRS, 1000 combat aircraft. Moreover, in German territory there were 5900 American tanks, 5700 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, 2600 artillery systems, and more than 300 aircraft. Even up to 1500 tanks, the same number of infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, and at least 500 artillery systems had other NATO countries here.

But all this is in the past. GA and air armies disbanded. The French, the Dutch, the Belgians and the Canadians left Germany long ago. In the 2015, the British contingent was also almost completely gone.

An order of magnitude less

Bundeswehr ground forces include 3 divisions (two tank and one SBR), a number of other units and subunits. The 1-td (headquarters in Oldenburg) has 9 and 21-th tank, 41-th motorized infantry brigade. 10-th TD (Veitshehhaym) - 12-th tank, 23-th mining, 37-th motorized infantry brigade. The division of the SBR (Stadtallendorf) includes the 1-I airborne brigade, command of the MTR, 36-th regiment of combat helicopters, 10 and 30-th regiment of transport helicopters, as well as the 11-I airborne brigade of the Armed Forces of the Netherlands.

Nibelun degenerationThe tank fleet consists of 225 "Leopard-2" (205 A6, 20 A7). The number of Marder BMPs was reduced to 900, they should be replaced by the Puma BMP in the amount of approximately 400, now there are 56. The dominant class of armored vehicles in the German army are BTR and BA. Today it is 358 TpZ-1 Fuchs, 136 Boxer, 98 Wiesel, 75 BV206S, 220 Fenech.

Artillery includes the newest PzH81 2000, 122 120 self-propelled 54 mm Tampella mortars and 2 MLRS MLRS. Remain in service 109 old SAU M10 and 101 towed guns MXNUMX.

Military air defense systems include the 50 air defense system "Ocelot" (this is the 4 Stinger MANPADS on the chassis of the Wiesel machine) and the 826 "Stingers" in a portable version.

As part of the army aviation There are 47 UHT Tiger attack helicopters and up to 82 Vo-105, up to 144 multi-purpose UH-1Ds, 40 EU-135s, 42 latest NH-90s.

The Luftwaffe includes operational command and central control. Both are in Cologne. The operational command - 5 tactical and 3 transport aircraft wings, helicopter and air defense.

The basis of the combat power of the Luftwaffe are German-English-Spanish-Italian fighter-bombers "Typhoon". According to the initial plans of 1986, the German Air Force planned to acquire 250 machines, in 1998 the plan was reduced to 180, in 2003-m - to 143. Delivered 120 units. Remain in service with Tornado bombers 120. On the Büchel WWB, 20 of US B-61 nuclear bombs are placed, which in the event of war will be used by Luftwaffe aircraft.

Transport aircraft has 3 latest A400M, 2 A319, 2 A340, 6 A310 (including 4 tanker), 68 C-160, 4 «Global Express-5000», and helicopter 90 (87 CH-53G, 3 AS532). The Luftwaffe has no training aviation, pilots are trained in the USA.

Ground defense - 20 of the Patriot ZSR batteries (8 PU in each). There are also 2 backup and 2 training batteries of the same SAM.

Bundesmarine has less than 50 combat units. These are the 5 submarines of the 212 project (another 1 is under construction), which became the world's first submarines from the VNEU, 10 frigates (3 newest Sachsen, 4 modern Brandenburg, 3 old Bremen), 5 corvettes (Braunschweig). 15 minesweepers. In the sediment - 9 missile boats "Cheetah". Naval aviation has X-NUMX anti-submarine aircraft R-8 "Orion", 3 patrols Do-3, 228 helicopter (43 "Sea King", 21 "Super Links"). It is planned to purchase NH22 18 helicopters.

As has been said, over the past 20 years, the grouping of foreign troops in Germany has radically decreased. Now it includes the British 20 motorized infantry brigade and the remnants of the American contingent. The US 7 Field Army (headquarters in Wiesbaden) has 2 Cavalry (equivalent to the Stryker Brigade) and 7 Air Regiment, 12 Army Aviation, 18 Engine, 16 Software, 18- military police, 66 reconnaissance, 2 and 7 communications brigade. The 3 Brigade of the 4 Infantry Division, which landed in Germany at the end of last year, was stationed in Eastern Europe. The 3 Air Force is the US Air Force (Ramstein) - 52 (F-16 fighter) and 86 (C-130, C-20, C-21А, C-37А) aircraft wings.

Finished tolerance

On the whole, having decreased by two orders of magnitude in all classes of military equipment, the Bundeswehr remains one of the largest European armies, since the rest of the rest has shrunk almost the same. However, it is no longer the main striking force of NATO in Europe. Much of the Bundeswehr equipment is faulty and not operational.

It should be noted that the country that unleashed two world wars in the twentieth century, in which the rider and the Wehrmacht demonstrated the highest level of combat and moral and psychological training, is politically and psychologically at the forefront of European pacifism, tolerance and political correctness. In 2010, the Bundeswehr refused to be conscripted, primarily because more than half of the young Germans chose alternative service in hospitals and nursing homes. It made the call meaningless. The overwhelming majority of Germans are not ready to wage any war whatsoever, which contrasts sharply with the state of German society in the first half of the last century. Of course, we are the last ones who will be upset by this circumstance, but the German experience shows how you can radically change the people through total, many years of propaganda. For Germany, breaking national psychology is a deserved punishment. But for us, this is an example in the sense that one should not be allowed to do the same with oneself.
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  1. +19
    26 March 2017 06: 06
    The Bundeswehr should by no means be taken as a spineless education in an easy way. They can mobilize, especially since strong industry, finances and a human reserve allow it. And they can always motivate anyone.
    1. +4
      26 March 2017 12: 13
      The Bundeswehr should by no means be accepted as a spineless formation in a light execution


      And who perceives? And the reduction is easier to explain - this we became weaker, and the front crawled east. Now, bros and even Finns are squealing something there. A tank breakthrough of the front immediately after a tactical nuclear strike directly on the contaminated territory with access to the other side was now only in the movies. They understand everything and hold as much as necessary.
    2. +1
      27 March 2017 17: 59
      Even if you have millions of trained soldiers in your civilian army who are ready to call, you cannot quickly make up for heavy equipment. If you have 800 bmp in the hangars, then even after half a year 1600 will not. Therefore, the German army is becoming not so much mobile as defensive.
      And the combat effectiveness of such an education was clearly demonstrated by 2 operations after the Kursk arch - they are very unstable.
      1. 0
        27 March 2017 18: 08
        The Wehrmacht in 1943 is not the Bundeswehr today .. And what two operations did you mean? Operation Bagration, Korsun-Shevchenkovskaya or the German breakthrough near Zhitomir, Proskurov or the Balaton offensive?
        Quote: yehat
        Even if you have millions of trained soldiers in your civilian army who are ready to call, you cannot quickly make up for heavy equipment. If you have 800 bmp in the hangars, then even after half a year 1600 will not. Therefore, the German army is becoming not so much mobile as defensive.
        And the combat effectiveness of such an education was clearly demonstrated by 2 operations after the Kursk arch - they are very unstable.
        1. +1
          28 March 2017 19: 22
          Quote: 210ox
          And the combat effectiveness of such an education was clearly demonstrated by 2 operations after the Kursk arch - they are very unstable.

          Quote: 210ox
          . And about what two operations did you mean?

          Maybe Yehat meant operations "Kutuzov" and "Rumyantsev", the destruction of the Oryol bridgehead and the Belgorod-Kharkov operation? They were carried out immediately after the Battle of Kursk. hi
  2. +15
    26 March 2017 06: 08
    Who knows. In 5-10 years, a new Bismarck may appear or, pah-pah-pah, aloizych and everything will start all over again.
    1. +2
      26 March 2017 06: 40
      ... why didn’t the Frau please you? smile
    2. +4
      26 March 2017 09: 50
      Quote: Putin
      ... In 5-10 years, a new Bismarck may appear or, pah-pah-pah, aloizych ...

      So be it.
      But if the viper was wrung out of poison, then the harm from its bite is not fatal.

      This is what Germany did.
      In the military direction, the industrialization of Georgia is not self-sufficient.
      Almost everywhere, components from NATO countries ...
      And this means that G. alone will not be able to much.
      Here is a means of effective control over G.
      In the natural process of seeking success, German youth is moving away to areas far from the army.
      Many dream and really leave for the USA.
      1. +1
        26 March 2017 11: 15
        Yes, Germany, even if it was not under the control of the United States, with respect to Russia, it would remember and still remember that it is better not to tease a sleeping bear from its patch of a region like Europe !!!!!!
  3. +5
    26 March 2017 06: 57
    The third time nobody will appease them. Total destruction. how homo nichrome not sapiens!
  4. +3
    26 March 2017 07: 00
    The territory is not large for peacetime is enough.
  5. +2
    26 March 2017 07: 05
    It is clear that if you set the task, mobilize industry resources, and train the population with the help of a couple of millions of migrants, well, there are patriotic camps, youth organizations Merkelyugend, then perhaps in ten years the Bundeswehr will become dangerous - for the Polish army, for example.
    1. +3
      26 March 2017 07: 54
      Do not underestimate them, for 10 years German industry can put out a lot of things and the population they have is not small there is anyone to mobilize.
  6. +12
    26 March 2017 07: 26
    On the whole, having shrunk by orders of magnitude over two decades in all classes of military equipment, the Bundeswehr remains one of the largest European armies, since the others are almost as crowded. However, the main strike force of NATO in Europe he is no longer. A significant part of the Bundeswehr's technique faulty and incapable.

    Funny argument.

    Europe’s most powerful and advanced economy rivets weapons as much as they order and very quickly.
    Few combat-ready youth? So for modern technology there is a lot of it and it is not necessary. And for the money, it’s not at all a problem to find the same Poles and non-brothers ..
    1. +4
      26 March 2017 12: 13
      Quote: Olgovich
      Few combat-ready youth? So for modern technology there is a lot of it and it is not necessary. And for the money, it’s not at all a problem to find the same Poles and non-brothers ..


      national armies tend to fight much better than mercenaries
      1. +1
        27 March 2017 00: 25
        so the national army in Germany is not going to cancel
        1. 0
          27 March 2017 06: 53
          Quote: Rich
          so the national army in Germany is not going to cancel


          investing money and energy in foreign mercenaries does not make sense at all. mercenaries are good when you do not need to conduct defensive operations.
          these resources should be invested in their own, the National Army, which in addition to money has additional motivation to go into battle (deadly).
          it’s harder to run away from the battlefield when your house is behind you.
          1. 0
            27 March 2017 16: 40
            In Syria, they manage to escape to Europe, rather than defend at home.
  7. +1
    26 March 2017 07: 45
    If that with the Bundesfer to figure it out.
  8. +8
    26 March 2017 07: 54
    For the author - actually nibelungs in Scandinavian mythology - it's kind dwarfstrue rich. AND dwarfs somehow already and nowhere to degenerate ...
    1. +5
      26 March 2017 08: 46
      The 38th SS Grenadier Division “Nibelungen” (German 38. SS-Grenadier-Division “Nibelungen”) is the last SS division in the history of the existence of the SS, which was formed on March 27, 1945. It was sent to the Western Front by personal order of Hitler. She fought in Bavaria. Google to the rescue
    2. +2
      27 March 2017 00: 28
      Sergey-8848 : For the author - in fact, the Nibelungs in Scandinavian mythology are a kind of dwarfs

      To combat them, apparently created and "Rusnano" wassat
  9. 0
    26 March 2017 09: 19
    And as the Bundeswehr is flooded with homosexuals, so moreover they will come ...
    1. 0
      26 March 2017 14: 33
      They are already full there. And twenty and thirty years ago it was the same.
    2. +1
      26 March 2017 18: 17
      Quote: parafoiler
      And as the Bundeswehr is flooded with homosexuals, so moreover they will come ...

      As far as I remember from history, unconventional sexuality was prevalent among the Spartans. And nothing, 300 years "fucked" enemies, not only in the ass ....
  10. +8
    26 March 2017 09: 37
    Defense spending will gradually be more and more. Their economy is gut, but balance is very important. Therefore, it seems that they are armed with tortoises.
    About their pacifism and tolerance. They remained the same Germans as we are Russians. Before the war, during and after, in our cinema there was an eternal image of a silly German. But does this have anything to do with reality? They also paint them for us that are obscene. The percentage of minorities in each country is stably comparable in number. We have no fewer such in the army, they just do not yell about it, because it’s never been difficult for politicians to feed slogans and send people to war. They have always successfully dealt with this. The truth is now a more open society, but the war will be different.
  11. +1
    26 March 2017 09: 41
    Is it bad that people don’t want to fight?)
    1. +3
      28 January 2018 14: 15
      Throughout history, people wanted peace and fought fiercely for it. Because the world is a happy life, and everyone has different ideas about achieving happiness. In the early 30s, Germany was a humiliated country with an economic crisis and symbolic armed forces, but thanks to its retained competencies in industry and a couple of intelligible ideas, for 7 years it bent Europe into an uncomfortable position. And now, everything can happen much faster with the advent of a new bearer of ideas, backed by backstage capital, which these ideas are suitable for achieving their goals. hi
  12. +2
    26 March 2017 09: 45
    Quote: Olgovich
    And for the money, it’s not at all a problem to find the same Poles and non-brothers ..

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    The Germans have such a "long-standing mutual love" with the Poles, and others are unlikely to sign up for Deutsche Reich; Another thing is that the Germans themselves still have remnants of genetic memory, and with the word "Stalingrad" their stupor begins. And given that many Arabs can now be fucked by wild Arabs, there are few who wish for another "drang nah osten" to Russia. We’ll not joke anymore and we, as it were, don’t need prisoners, we’ve already passed.
  13. +7
    26 March 2017 10: 47
    In general, everything is true. Only the author kept silent about the reasons for such metamorphoses of the Bundeswehr.
    The bottom line is that West Germany has been a de facto occupied country since 1945. And the state of its armed forces is not determined by the interests of Germany, nor by Germany itself. But it is determined by the USA and the interests of the USA.
    Before the perestroika, the Germans were supposed to be used as cannon fodder against the USSR, hence the strong ground forces, but the strong US Navy was not needed, hence its modest capabilities even during the Cold War.
    Now the situation has changed, the USSR is not there, NATO has gone east, and for the "final solution of the Russian question" it is proposed (in addition to pressure within Russia) to use cheap and few interesting East European natives plus missile defense bases in the East. Europe. Accordingly, there is no longer any need for the Bundeswehr. Hence his condition.
    As for the thesis that the Germans are still awesome and they have a strong industry, then “he will eat and who will give it to him.” Hypothetically, Germany can build powerful armed forces, but for this, political independence must first be gained.
  14. 0
    26 March 2017 11: 14
    more homosexual weddings for them, and the warrior will not remain at all!
  15. +5
    26 March 2017 11: 17
    The author is not satisfied with what. The Germans have proven many times that they are very serious guys. And the fact that they are few now, for example, makes me somewhat happy
    1. 0
      26 March 2017 19: 41
      Quote: Kenneth
      The author is not satisfied with what.

      The author’s theses are well known to all: "Europe is not our enemy, China is our enemy." Only earlier the author pressed on the strength of China, and now on the weakness of the United States and NATO. I wonder why the FSB is still not interested in this writer.
      1. 0
        28 March 2017 21: 05
        Because the FSB has real work and not fantasy.
  16. +1
    26 March 2017 11: 55
    war is a power continuation of politics.

    So, what Germany could not achieve by force twice in the last century, it achieved in other ways.
    and so Europe is under it. France recognizes its dominant role. England in order to get out of the pressure of Germany came out of the EU.
    Euro currency is the same German mark. not a franc or a pound there. all primarily in the interests of Germany. all EU laws are structured like this.
    such as help, weak and demented, in fact, this is the enslavement of partners in fact. all that they give, in the majority they take away immediately, the rest from later, and even the debt remains. They tell everyone in Europe what to do and how, what to produce and what not.
    now they are slowly starting to merge with the largest French companies, in fact the takeover is underway.
    so why maintain an army? if goals are achieved by other methods. and no one will attack Germany, neither Russia nor the United States.
    1. +5
      26 March 2017 13: 58
      A very sensible comment. I live here now, so to speak, on a “duty of duty”, I am observing everything from the inside. Everything is correctly noticed, after two failed power attempts to build the 3rd Reich, they try to build the 4th, financial, enslave everyone with debts. But as I observe here, they again made their classic mistake, they don’t know when to stop, they grabbed, but there was no more chewing and swallowing. Everything here is crumbling with them and every year it’s getting stronger. And as for the power conflict, the Bundeswehr cannot even cope with Poland right now, but in terms of human resources, they will scratch a million others, we only need a charismatic leader — a new “Jewish” boy of Austrian origin))
  17. 0
    26 March 2017 14: 35
    ... Well, they have a mobilization resource!

    Their only weakness ... 5-column in the person of Immigrants ... Here, with the help of them, our MTRs can easily ignite the Civil War there, using elements of a PSYCHOLOGICAL WAR ... AND POSSIBLE DEFENSE WITH WEAPONS ...

    Turkey can do the same ...
    1. 0
      11 December 2017 21: 28
      And here, excuse me, is the situation at least somewhat different? In addition, what is even worse for us due to wild corruption and the sale of everything and everything, including the future of our people.
  18. +1
    26 March 2017 14: 41
    the meaning of the article? all is well beautiful marquise, the tiger relaxed, can I finish it? the Germans are not like that, but they relaxed, but where to get the genes?
  19. 0
    26 March 2017 16: 05
    Quote: 210ox
    The Bundeswehr should by no means be accepted as a spineless formation in an easy execution.

    They don’t mobilize anything. The potential is long over.
  20. 0
    26 March 2017 18: 42
    Well, God, as they say, loves the trinity? Germany for the third time is eager for world domination. The end, alas, will be one. And it will be a pity for decent Germans, they are in the minority. But there will absolutely not be a pity for those who revive fascism - neo-fascists, no matter what masks they hide today.
  21. +2
    27 March 2017 04: 27
    Of course, it is incorrect to compare 1990 with the USSR Armed Forces of the USSR, but let's compare it with the quantitative indicators of the whole Russian Federation in 1992. The number of people employed in the army fell by 3.5 times, and fell by a factor of 7, the number of equipment was much less, tanks in service and storage were 4-5 times less, and troops were withdrawn from almost all other countries. So Germany protected by NATO and Eastern European countries can afford to reduce defense spending, having huge industrial potential and an advanced design school that can be mobilized if necessary.
  22. BAI
    0
    27 March 2017 12: 27
    “One of the goals of creating the NATO bloc in 1949 was control over Germany, at that time only Western. At the same time, Germany found itself on the potential front line - in the main direction of the expected strike of the Warsaw Pact troops.” - We repeat the delirium of MGIMO: "NATO was created in response to the creation of the Warsaw Pact"?
  23. 0
    28 March 2017 13: 28
    I read some opuses and ask myself a question, but did these people study at school and serve in the army? ............
    Once again, ATTENTIVELY look at the photo where the officer is looking ??????????? ................
    What kind of war are you talking about ???????????? ............
    Or do you only consider yourself adequate? ...........
  24. 0
    8 November 2017 15: 47
    after 2 months, they may have nuclear weapons appear if they haven’t already appeared in a quiet sap