Where do water and oxygen come from on the ISS?

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/ Kick me is not necessary is the "World". Just a good photo /

Anthem 13 department.


We are not astronauts, not pilots,
Not engineers, not doctors.
And we water plumbers:
We drive water from urine!
And not fakirs, brothers, like us,
But, without boasting, we say:
The water cycle in nature we
In our system, repeat!
Our science is very accurate.
You just give thought a turn.
We will overtake waste water
On casseroles and compote!
Having passed all the roads Milky,
Do not lose weight with it
With full self-sufficiency
Our space systems.
After all, even the cakes are excellent,
Lula kebab and rolls
Ultimately, from the original
Material and urine!
Do not refuse, if possible,
When we ask in the morning
Fill the flask in total
At least one hundred grams each!
We must confess in a friendly way
What is beneficial to be friends with us:
After all, without utilization
In this world not live !!!
(Author - Varlamov Valentin Filippovich - pseudonym V.Vologdin)



Where do water and oxygen come from on the ISS?


Water is the basis of life. On our planet for sure. At some "Gamma Centauri", perhaps everything is different. With the advent of space exploration, the importance of water for humans has only increased. A lot depends on H2O in space: starting from the work of the space station itself and ending with the generation of oxygen. The first spacecraft did not have a closed "water supply" system. All the water and other "consumables" were taken on board from the very beginning, from Earth.




“The previous space missions - Mercury, Gemini, Apollo took with them all the necessary supplies of water and oxygen and dumped liquid and gaseous waste into space,” explains Robert Bagdigian of Marshall center.



To summarize: life support systems for astronauts and astronauts were “open-ended” - they relied on support from their home planet.




About iodine and the spacecraft "Apolon", the role of toilets and options (UdSSR or USA) of waste disposal on early spacecraft I will tell you another time.


In the photo: Apollo 15 portable crew life support system, 1968.


Leaving the reptiloid, I swam over to the locker of sanitary facilities. Turning his back to the counter, he took out a soft corrugated hose, undid the pants.
- The need for waste disposal?
Lord ...
I certainly did not answer. He turned on the suction and tried to forget about the curious look of the reptiloid, who drilled his back. I hate these petty domestic problems.

/ "Stars - cold toys", S. Lukyanenko /

Return to the water and O2.

Today, there is a partially closed water regeneration system on the ISS, and I will try to talk about the details (as far as I figured this out myself).



In accordance with GOST 28040-89 (I don’t even know if it still works) "The cosmonaut’s life support system in a manned spacecraft" The cosmonaut’s life support system is “A set of functionally interrelated means and activities designed to create conditions in the manned compartment of the manned cosmonaut with the environment at the level necessary to maintain his health and performance. " The cosmonaut LSS system includes the following systems:
* SOGS - gas supply system,
* CBO - water supply system,
* SSGO - system of sanitary and hygienic maintenance,
* SOP - power supply system,
* SOTR - system for ensuring thermal conditions.


We have something to be proud of.
“The Russians were ahead of us in this area, even the Salyut and Mir spacecraft were able to condense moisture from the air and used electrolysis — passing an electric current through water — to produce oxygen.”

Robyn Carrasquillo, ECLSS technical project manager.

How it all began (with us).



1.THE LIFE SECURITY SYSTEMS IN HERMETIC CABINS OF STRATOSTATS, ROCKETS AND FIRST ARTIFICIAL EARTH SATELLITES

The first person to visit the space for Pocket line in the spacecraft preceded the launch of stratostats, rockets and artificial earth satellites, in which there were life support systems for people and animals (mostly for dogs).



In the USSR-1 (1933) and Osoaviakhim-1 (1934) stratostats, life support systems included reserves of cryogenic and gaseous oxygen; the latter was in cylinders under pressure 150 atm. Carbon dioxide was removed using the KPI - chemical lime absorber in accordance with the reaction:
Ca (OH) 2 + CO2 = Ca (CO3) + H2O
The composition of the KPI was 95% Ca (OH) 2 and 5% asbestos.



In the rockets, with the help of which the near space was probed, there was an airtight cabin with animals, having in its composition three cylinders for a mixture of air and oxygen. Carbon dioxide emitted by the animals was removed with the help of KPI.

Capsule "star dogs" Squirrels and Arrows, in which they returned to Earth:



On board the first artificial earth satellites, the life support systems for dogs included some elements of future life-support systems for astronauts: a food intake device, a sewage disposal device; purification of the atmosphere and the provision of oxygen was carried out with the help of peroxide compounds, which, when absorbing carbon dioxide and water vapor, produced oxygen in accordance with the reactions:
4KO2 + 2 Н2О = 3О2 + 4 CON
2КОН + СО2 = К2 СО3 + Н2О
К2 СО3 + Н2О + СО2 = 2 КНСО3


2. SYSTEMS OF LIFE SUPPORT OF BIOLOGICAL SATELLITES OF THE EARTH OF THE TYPE “BION” AND “PHOTON”

Biological satellites of the Earth-automatic space vehicles "BION" and "PHOTON" designed to study the effects of space flight factors (weightlessness, radiation, etc.) on the animal organism.

It is noteworthy that Russia - in fact - the only country in the world that has automatic spacecraft for research on biological objects. Other countries are forced to send animals into space on our vehicles.



Over the years, the scientific leaders of the BION program were OG Gazenko and E.A. Ilyin. At present, the scientific director of the BION program is OI Orlov, alternates - E.A. Ilyin and E.N. Yarmanova.

The biological satellite "BION" is equipped with water supply and animal feeding systems, a thermal and moisture regulation system, a day-night system, a gas composition support system, etc.



The system for ensuring the gas composition of the automatic spacecraft "BION" and "PHOTON" is designed to provide animals with oxygen, removal of carbon dioxide and gaseous trace impurities in the descent vehicle.

Composition:
- cartridges with an oxygen-containing substance and an absorber of harmful trace impurities;
- cartridge with carbon dioxide absorber and harmful trace impurities;
- electric fans;
- sensors to indicate the health of the fans and the tightness of the gas paths;
- gas analyzer;
- control unit and control.


The system provides comfortable conditions in the gaseous environment of the descent vehicle (closed hermetic volume containing 4,0-4,5 m3 air) and consists of three regenerative cartridges and an absorption cartridge with an electric fan for each cartridge, ensuring air regeneration according to С2, О2, CO and other harmful impurities. Turning on and off the microcompressors allows to ensure the specified composition of the atmosphere of the object.

Principle of operation: the air of an object is pumped through a fan through a regenerative cartridge, where it is cleaned of CO2 and harmful impurities and enriched with oxygen.

Excess carbon dioxide is removed by periodically turning on the absorption cartridge. Absorption cartridge also provides cleaning from impurities. The system works with a control and monitoring unit and a gas analyzer for oxygen and carbon dioxide. When the partial pressure of oxygen drops to 20,0 kPa, the first regenerative cartridge is activated.

If the oxygen partial pressure is greater than or equal to 20,8 kPa, the regenerative cartridge is turned off and on again at an oxygen partial pressure of 20,5 kPa. The inclusion of the second and subsequent cartridges occurs at a partial pressure of oxygen 20,0 kPa (subject to a fall in concentration), and the previously included cartridges continue to work.
The absorption cartridge is switched on periodically at a partial pressure of carbon dioxide 1,0 kPa, switched off at a partial pressure of carbon dioxide 0,8 kPa, regardless of the operation of the regenerative cartridge.

3. SYSTEMS OF LIFE SUPPORT ON THE BASIS OF RESERVES FOR CREWS OF SPACE SHIPS OF TYPE “VOSTOK”, “VOSKHOD”, “SOYUZ”, “MERCURY”, “GEMINI”, “APOLLON”, “SHATTL”, ORTHYTEL, SHTTL ”, OGRITTLE, AND ORAHITTEL, ORTITLE

Life support systems for Soviet spacecraft of the Vostok, Voskhod, Soyuz type, as well as the American Mercury, Gemini, Apollon and the Shuttle transport ship were based entirely on the reserves of consumable materials / u]: oxygen, water, food, means for removing CO2 and harmful trace impurities.

4. REGENERATION SYSTEMS OF LIFE SUPPORT ON THE BASIS OF PHYSICAL AND CHEMICAL PROCESSES FOR CREWS OF ORBITAL SPACE "SALUT", "WORLD", "ISS"

The operation of life support systems based on reserves of consumable substances taken from the Earth has a significant drawback: their weight and dimensions increase in direct proportion to the duration of the space mission and the number of crew members. Upon reaching a certain duration of the flight, the life-age system on the basis of reserves may be an obstacle to the implementation of the expedition.

The table shows the mass characteristics of LSS, based on the reserves of consumable substances in relation to the expedition duration 50, 100 and 500 days for the crew, consisting of 6 people:



Based on the consumption rates of the main LSS components obtained as a result of the long-term practice of long-term orbital flights at the SALUT, MIR and MKS stations (oxygen — 0,96 kg / person-day. Drinking water — 2,5 kg / person-day ., food - 1,75 kg / person / day, etc.), it is easy to calculate that the required mass of reserves for a crew consisting of 6 - and a person in 500-day flight conditions without taking into account tare mass and storage systems would be more than 58 tons (see tab.). In the case of using life support systems based on supplies of consumables, it would be necessary to create storage systems for cosmonauts' vital products: feces, urine, condensate of atmospheric moisture, used sanitary and hygienic and kitchen waters, etc.

What is in fact difficult to implement or not at all possible (flight to Mars, for example).

In 1967-1968's Institute of Biomedical Problems of the Ministry of Health of the USSR A unique annual medical-technical experiment was conducted with the participation of three testers: G.A. Manovtseva, A.N. Bozhko and B.N. Ulybysheva. In the thermocamera experiment, which lasted for 365 days, a biomedical and technical evaluation of a new complex of regenerative life-support systems took place.




The LSS of the ground-level laboratory complex included:
* carbon dioxide removal system, the system of cleaning the atmosphere from harmful trace impurities,
* oxygen generation system, water recovery system from moisture-containing products of vital functions of testers, sanitary and hygienic equipment, greenhouse,
* system of instrumentation.


Experimental regenerative life support systems based on physicochemical processes, tested in an annual medical and technical experiment, were the prototype of the standard LSS for crews of the Salyut, MIR and MKS orbital stations.

For the first time in the world practice of manned flights on the space station "Salyut-4" a regeneration system "CPB-K" operated - a system for obtaining drinking water from condensate by an atmosphere of moisture. The crew composed of A.A. Gubareva and G.M. Grechko used the water regenerated in the "SRV-K" system for drinking and preparing food and drinks. The system operated during the entire manned flight of the station. Similar systems like SRV-K worked at the Salyut-6, Salyut-7, and MIR stations.



[u] Retreat:

20 February 1986 of the year the Soviet orbital station went into orbit "Peace".



23 March 2001 year she was flooded in the pacific.

Our station "Mir" flooded when she turned 15 years. Now the two Russian modules that are part of the ISS are already on 17 too. But nobody is going to heat the ISS ...

The efficiency of the use of regeneration systems has been confirmed by the experience of many years of operation, for example, the MIR orbital station, on board which successfully operated such LSS subsystems, such as:
"SRV-K" - a system for the regeneration of water from atmospheric moisture condensate,
"SRV-U" - a system for the regeneration of water from urine (urine),
"SPK-U" is a system for receiving and preserving urine (urine),
Electron is an oxygen generation system based on water electrolysis,
Air is a carbon dioxide removal system
"BMP" - block removal of harmful trace impurities, etc.




Similar regeneration systems (with the exception of the "SRV-U") are successfully operating at present on board the International Space Station (ISS).



Where water is spent on the ISS (there is still no better quality scheme, my apologies):



The structure of the life support system (coolant-cutting fluid) of the ISS includes a gas composition support subsystem (ESS). Composition: means of controlling and regulating atmospheric pressure, means of pressure equalization, equipment for depressurization and pressurization of organic chemical mixtures, gas analysis equipment, system for removing harmful impurities from the BMP, system for removing carbon dioxide from the atmosphere “Air”, means for cleaning the atmosphere. An integral part of the SOGS is the oxygen supply means, including solid fuel sources of oxygen (TEC) and the system for producing oxygen from Electron-VM water. When the launch was launched, there was only 120 kg of air and two solid fuel oxygen generators TGC on board the SM.

Who cares → Live webcast from webcam to ISS.

To deliver 30 000 liters of water onboard the MIR and MKS orbital stations, it would be necessary to organize in addition 12 launches of the Progress transport spacecraft, the payload of which is 2,5 tons. If we take into account the fact that Progress is equipped with spring water tanks with a capacity of 420 l, then the number of additional launches of the Progress transport vehicle would have to increase several times.



Calculation for the "Martian":



On the ISS, the zeolite scavengers of the Air system capture carbon dioxide (CO2) and release it into the overboard space. The oxygen lost in the CO2 composition is replenished due to the electrolysis of water (decomposition of it into hydrogen and oxygen). This is done on the ISS by the Electron system, which consumes kg of water per person per day for 1. Hydrogen is now being dumped overboard, but in the future it will help convert CO2 into valuable water and methane released (CH4). And of course, just in case there are oxygen checkers and tanks on board.
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In the photo: oxygen generator and simulator for running on the ISS, which are out of order in 2011.



In the photo: astronauts set up a system for degassing liquids for biological experiments under microgravity conditions in the Destiny laboratory.


The bathroom on the space station looks like this:



In the service module of the ISS, the Air and BMP purification systems, advanced systems for the recovery of water from the SRB-KHNUMXМ condensate and the Electron-VM oxygen generation, as well as the SPK-UM urine reception and preservation system are installed and function. The performance of advanced systems has been increased by more than 2 (it provides for the crew to live up to 2 people), while energy and mass costs are reduced. Over the five-year period (data for 6), their operation recovered 2006 tons of water 6,8 tons of oxygen, which reduced the mass of cargo delivered to the station by more than 2,8 tons. The delay in the inclusion of the system for the recovery of water from urine CPV-UM into the LSS complex did not allow 11 to regenerate tons of water and reduce the mass of delivery.

"Second front" - Americans



Technical water from the American apparatus ECLSS It is supplied to the Russian system and the American OGS (Oxygen Generation System), where it is then “processed” into oxygen.



The process of water recovery from urine is a difficult technical task: “Urine is much dirtier than water vapor, - explains Carrascillo, - It is capable of corroding metal parts and clogging pipes. ”. ECLSS system (video) uses a process called vapor compression distillation to clean the urine: the urine is boiled until the water from it turns into steam. Steam - naturally purified water in the vapor state (with the exception of traces of ammonia and other gases) - rises into the distillation chamber, leaving concentrated brown mud of impurities and salts, which Carrascillo mercifully calls “brine” (which is then thrown into outer space). The steam is then cooled and the water is condensed. The distillate obtained is mixed with moisture condensed from the air and filtered to a state suitable for drinking. ECLSS is able to recover 100% moisture from air and 85% water from urine, which corresponds to a total efficiency of about 93%.

Described above, however, refers to the operation of the system in terrestrial conditions. An additional complexity appears in space - the steam does not rise up: it is not capable of rising into the distillation chamber. Therefore, in the ECLSS model for the ISS "... we rotate the distillation system to create artificial gravity to separate the pairs and the brine"- explains Carrascillo.

]Perspectives:

Attempts are known to obtain synthetic carbohydrates from the cosmonauts vital activity products for the conditions of space expeditions according to the scheme:



According to this scheme, waste products are burned to form carbon dioxide, from which methane is formed as a result of hydrogenation (Sabatier reaction). Methane can be transformed into formaldehyde, from which the polycondensation reaction (Butlerov reaction) form carbohydrates-monosaccharides.

However, the obtained carbohydrate-monosaccharides were a mixture of racemates - tetrose, pentoses, hexoses, heptoses, which do not possess optical activity.

Note. I even pause to think about the opportunity to delve into the "wiki-knowledge" to understand the meaning of these terms.

Modern LSS after their respective modernization can be used as a basis for creating LSS that is necessary for the development of deep space. The LSS complex will ensure almost complete reproduction of water and oxygen at the station and can be the basis of the LSS complexes for scheduled flights to Mars and the organization of a base on the Moon.






Much attention is paid to the creation of systems that provide the most complete circulation of substances. To this end, most likely, they will use the process of hydrogenation of carbon dioxide by the Sabatier reaction or Bosha-Boudoirwhich will allow to realize the cycle of oxygen and water:
СО2 + 4Н2 = СН4 + 2Н2О
CO2 + 2Н2 = С + 2Н2О

In the case of an exobiological prohibition of the emission of CH4 into the vacuum of outer space, methane can be transformed into formaldehyde and nonvolatile monosaccharide carbohydrates by the following reactions:
СН4 + О2 = СН2О + Н2О
polycondensation
nСНХNUMXО -? (CH2O) n
Ca (OH) 2


It should be noted that the sources of pollution of the environment at orbital stations and during long-term interplanetary flights are:
- structural materials of the interior (polymeric synthetic materials, varnishes, paints);
- man (with perspiration, transpiration, with intestinal gases, with sanitary and hygienic measures, medical examinations, etc.);
- working electronic equipment;
- links of life support systems (cesspool device-ACS, kitchen, sauna, shower);
and much more.


It is obvious that the creation of an automatic system for operational control and management of habitat quality will be required. Some ASOKUKSO?
Oh, it was not for nothing that in Baumanka the specialty on LSS KA (E4. *) Was called by students:

Ass

...
What was deciphered as:
Жfrom the outsideОcare Пilotable Аprapartov
Full, so to speak, if you try to delve into.



Ending: maybe I did not take everything into account and confused facts, figures somewhere. Then add, correct and criticize.

An interesting publication pushed me into this “verbiage”: "Vegetables for astronauts: how to grow fresh greens in NASA laboratories", which brought my younger child to discuss.

My son today at school began making a “research gang group” to grow Peking salad in an old microwave. Probably decided to provide themselves with greenery when traveling to Mars. Old microwave will have to buy on AVITO, t. To. my while all function. Do not break it specifically?


Note on the picture, by no means my child and not the future victim of the experiment is not mine microwave.


As I promised marks @ marks, if something comes out - pictures and the result will throw on the GIK. Grown lettuce can send by mail RF willing for a fee, of course.

Primary Sources:
ACTUAL SPEECH Doctor of Technical Sciences, Professor, Honored Scientist of the Russian Federation Yu.E. SINYAKA (RAS) “LIFE-SUPPORT SYSTEMS OF INHABITED SPACE OBJECTS (Past, Present and Future)” / Moscow October 2008. Main part of the text.
"Living Science" (http://livescience.ru) -Water regeneration on the ISS.
JSC "NIIhimmash" (www.niichimmash.ru). Publications of employees of JSC "NIIhimmash".
Online store "Food astronauts"

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  1. +10
    4 March 2017 06: 10
    Thank you for the article.
    Yes, space is a dangerous thing.
    I don’t understand what they (astronauts) are doing there, what they are doing. They say that some research, but it is not clear what exactly and why. It feels like eating from tubes and shooting a video. In general, they fly without a break on the ISS, it is not clear why.
    1. +5
      4 March 2017 12: 12
      I don’t understand what they (astronauts) are doing there, what they are doing. They say that some research, but it is not clear what exactly and why.


      What, and not a single question arose? Well, for example, how does a plant determine where the top is, where to grow, how will the cells divide, if there is no gravity? With the capillary movement of liquids, the energy for evaporation from the surface of the leaves would be understandable. But what kind of miracle will grow? And if not a miracle, then why? Or say, the germ of a mammal? What will change in cell division, in the program of a living organism, if there is no gravity? Yes, you can ask and understand a lot of things from nature .... I laugh, of course, but we can grow new teeth and hair into orbit (well, or the tail, who likes what) lol
      The article is excellent, thanks to the author.
      1. 0
        4 March 2017 22: 57
        Yes it is clear. But why?
    2. +6
      4 March 2017 14: 29
      Quote: Rabinovich
      In general, they fly without a break on the ISS, it is not clear why.

      At least for --->
      Andrey Simbirtsev
      Deputy Director of the Federal Biomedical Agency (FMBA) of Russia for scientific work:
      “Our drug has the working name“ Heat shock protein ”- the main active ingredient. It is a molecule that is synthesized by any cells of the human body in response to various stressful effects.”

      A fundamentally new tool against malignant tumors was obtained using biotechnology and the space experiment, which was conducted in 2015 on the ISS.
      “The fact is that for X-ray analysis of the action of a protein, it is necessary to form an ultrapure crystal from it. but in the conditions of gravity it is impossible to get it - protein crystals grow unevenly. The idea was born to grow crystals in space "
      - explained Simbirtsev.
      + if we are going to drop into the moon, Mars must train in the waiting room.
      1. +1
        4 March 2017 22: 59
        Yes, I don’t know, it’s been almost 50 years in space, so they haven’t flown anywhere (
    3. 0
      4 March 2017 16: 47
      Quote: Rabinovich
      In general, they fly without a break on the ISS, it is not clear why.

      Have you heard about the cure for cancer?
      1. +2
        4 March 2017 22: 58
        Where is the medicine?
        1. 0
          31 March 2017 13: 01
          Here:
          rg.ru/2017/03/05/rossijskoe-lekarstvo-ot-raka-soz
          dali-s-pomoshchiu-kosmicheskih-tehnologij.html
          www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2838593
  2. +9
    4 March 2017 06: 59
    The article is very interesting .... but I, too, am interested in the true reason why they flooded our Mir station. What really happened there?
    1. +4
      4 March 2017 07: 48
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      What really happened there?

      Yes, there was not enough money for it, which could be incomprehensible ... Although, according to rumors, Iran wanted to either buy or rent it. Well, here, of course, our nonsense could play a role.
      1. +3
        4 March 2017 08: 03
        No, it’s not about the money, Something happened there, that the crew was urgently recalled, and then quickly drowned ...
        1. +2
          4 March 2017 08: 49
          Information was passing about mold, which had bred in such numbers that it became a life threat to the crew. Moreover, this mold was even on the outer surface.
          1. +5
            4 March 2017 14: 29
            Quote: Izotovp
            Moreover, this mold was even on the outer surface.

            It is unlikely
      2. avt
        +9
        4 March 2017 09: 10
        Quote: Avis
        Although, according to rumors, Iran wanted to either buy or rent it.

        wassat bully China made maximum runs.
        Quote: Monster_Fat
        Something happened there, that the crew was urgently recalled, and then quickly drowned ...

        Quote: Izotovp
        Information about mold passed

        wassat Took and went straight. Chorus in the media bully It was actually removed from orbit for two reasons. Firstly, it actually worked out all the deadlines laid down by the developers and the extension, too. Secondly, the specifics of the main work at the stations of the USSR was not breeding of Drosophila and houseplants at all, and biomedical experiments were subordinate to the main type of activity. And he annoyed our sworn friends from the very beginning. Well, the last, but not unimportant - I really wanted someone to quickly and loudly remove from the orbit Sovetskaya, transferred to the Russian station, so much so that they did not spare money and did not allow to remove the equipment. It was good money to see .... Well, judging by how even the then chief in Roscosmos, and now sort of a scientific, technical adviser and the head of the whole council Koptev, glowed with happiness through the television screen, and then the ISS, which you can’t name a new generation station , but it no longer fulfills the first and main task that was laid back in Soviet stations.
        1. 0
          4 March 2017 09: 19
          I don’t argue that this was the case, as there were opportunities to modernize and extend the operation with expanding functionality at the expense of the same berthing farm for Buran and the Mir-2 project was ready, but the ISS already had a problem with this mold.
          1. avt
            0
            4 March 2017 09: 28
            Quote: Izotovp
            since there were also opportunities for modernization and extension of operation with expansion of functionality due to the same berthing farm for Buran

            wassat laughing laughing laughing Have you ever been at the site personally ??? Have you ever looked at the table from the hotel at least from the 113th?
            Quote: Izotovp
            farms for Buran

            and where
            Quote: Izotovp
            project Mir-2

            ???? Well, at least establish a cause-and-effect relationship, again, inquire about what the ISS deduced, then about the “funny farm” it’s just like to argue. laughing
            1. 0
              4 March 2017 09: 35
              He left the 3-year course, but I still remember something and classmates said something. I remember what was happening. Therefore, he left.
              And the mooring farm "Sophora" was mounted on the World.
              1. avt
                +2
                4 March 2017 10: 03
                Quote: Izotovp
                Left 3-year course

                Well then, you should understand yourself that
                Quote: Izotovp
                project Mir-2

                upon the fact of the ISS, but castrated by applied tasks in the interests of individual departments of Russia.
                1. +1
                  4 March 2017 11: 42
                  So yes, only, as far as I remember, we had more technological and production modules in the backlog based on operating experience of the same Crystal. On the ISS, the Americans have not matured before, and no one will give us a butt, and ours especially do not want to.
                  1. avt
                    +3
                    4 March 2017 16: 25
                    Quote: Izotovp
                    So yes, only, as far as I remember, we had more technological and production modules in the backlog based on operating experience of the same Crystal.

                    bully According to the results of operation, there were a lot of things not even of the World, but of the Salyutov, which was fundamental in building a new station
                    Quote: Izotovp
                    Americans have not grown before

                    and now it’s not supposed to know. Let them ride on the old pedal horse of the ISS, and we will deliver them to the pedal horse with old sevens. .... with ,, East " bully And they let the cheeks blow from the crafts mug ,, skillful hands "them. Mask
    2. +1
      4 March 2017 09: 44
      the true reason why our Mir station was flooded is interesting.

      Most likely, Russian help was needed in the construction of the "international space station." If “Mir” remained, then Russia's participation in the “international project” would be called into question.
  3. ICT
    +8
    4 March 2017 07: 19
    Avot is still missing on the site of those sections
  4. +5
    4 March 2017 07: 43
    Anton hi Thank you as always for the article. hi although in the 90s I already knew some of this from those people who, so to speak, were involved in this topic in one way or another. But, anyway, thank you! !! drinks
  5. +10
    4 March 2017 08: 49
    Before I read to the end, I already knew who the author was. good It is a pity that publications like this one at VO have become scarce.
    1. +7
      4 March 2017 14: 33
      Quote: Bongo
      Before I read to the end, I already knew who the author was.

      By the number of grammatical errors and jambs?
      good
      Quote: Bongo
      It is a pity that publications like this one at VO have become scarce.

      Rocket Fuel Saga

      probably will come out.
      For 2 days, Comrade Smirnov was engaged in combat training with me.
      the grass is painted green, the parade ground is washed with shampoo, the rank-and-file composition (s) begins to execute the command "to accept lying down" until the commander voices this command.
      1. +6
        4 March 2017 14: 58
        Quote: opus
        By the number of grammatical errors and jambs?

        Your ignorance of the rules of the Russian language (I also have a limp) is more than compensated by deep knowledge in other areas. Apparently, nature does not tolerate emptiness. lol
        Quote: opus
        Rocket Fuel Saga

        probably will come out.
        For 2 days, Comrade Smirnov was engaged in combat training with me.
        the grass is painted green, the parade ground is washed with shampoo, the rank-and-file composition (s) begins to execute the command "to accept lying down" until the commander voices this command.

        Nothing, sometimes useful ... wink
      2. +2
        4 March 2017 16: 41
        Quote: opus
        By the number of grammatical errors and jambs?

        But you have a unique style of presentation of the material. good
        Quote: Bongo
        Before I read to the end, I already knew who the author was.

        Similarly. smile
        Keep up the good work and thanks for the article.
    2. avt
      +2
      4 March 2017 16: 27
      Quote: Bongo
      It is a pity that publications like this one at VO have become scarce.

      Yes . Even as a youth I remembered when I got to my first job.
  6. +5
    4 March 2017 11: 19
    Since the author does not object to the additions, he tried to formulate conclusions from such an extensive material in order to give the article, let’s say, completeness.
    1. The most important condition for a successful manned flight is the creation of a life support system and biomedical support that meets the flight conditions.
    2. An interplanetary expedition will require the creation of an autonomous life support system, an on-board medical center and an independent radiation safety system.
    3. In the case of a long expedition, the prolonged exposure to zero gravity and health-hazardous radiation levels, complex psychological problems, encountering a number of new factors during interplanetary flights and during your stay on Mars (hypomagnetic environment, hypogravity, meteorite danger, etc.) are tough requirements for biomedical support of the expedition.
    4. For the interplanetary expedition, a special system for the selection and training of astronauts based on the latest achievements in biology, medicine and information technology should be created.
    5. The main tasks to ensure the health of the crew of the interplanetary expedition should be solved with the help of a medical center designed to assess the health status and performance of astronauts, carry out preventive measures, and in case of illnesses, for diagnosis, treatment and rehabilitation.
    6. Particular attention in the development of medical and biological support for the expedition should be given to the creation of prophylactic agents that can prevent the adverse effects of extreme factors such as non-gravitational means of prevention of a new generation or an onboard centrifuge.
    7. An important role in the medical support of the expedition will belong to communication technologies, which, along with the fulfillment of their tasks, will be the link between the IEC and the ground-based medical support service.
    8. In a long space flight, the role of psychological factors will increase. Of particular importance are factors such as psychological selection, psychiatric examination, resistance to stress, the ability to maintain operator skills for a long time, the regulation of relationships in the crew taking into account its international composition, etc.
    9. The life support systems of an interplanetary space expedition should be highly reliable, economical, and more closed compared to existing systems for orbital flights and include new components (environmental monitoring, waste processing system, etc.).
    10. An important new component of the coolant in a long interplanetary expedition will be a greenhouse, capable of providing more balanced nutrition for astronauts in a long autonomous flight.
    11. Considerable attention should be paid to ensuring the microbiological safety of the expedition members, as well as the technical and technological systems of the manned interplanetary spacecraft.
    12. A mandatory requirement during an interplanetary expedition is the implementation of planetary quarantine requirements in accordance with the recommendations of COSPAR to prevent contamination of the surface of Mars or another planet by terrestrial microorganisms and the transfer of possible Martian living objects to Earth.
    13. The radiation situation during the interplanetary expedition is more complex, less studied and more risky than in orbital flights, near the Earth.
    14. An interplanetary expedition will require the creation of a system for the automated assessment of the radiation situation of its forecast, monitoring of individual doses, the development of radiation shelter and other means of radiation protection for prevention.
    15. The medical and biological support of the Martian expedition can be based on the Mir station and the ISS systems tested in long-term space missions, provided they are improved, new components are created and tested in ground-based model experiments and in space missions.
    1. +3
      4 March 2017 12: 08
      4. For the interplanetary expedition, a special system for the selection and training of astronauts based on the latest achievements in biology, medicine and information technology should be created.
      8. In a long space flight, the role of psychological factors will increase. Of particular importance are factors such as psychological selection, psychiatric examination, resistance to stress, the ability to maintain operator skills for a long time, the regulation of relationships in the crew taking into account its international composition, etc.

      We are not at war with space. Therefore, you need not count on superman heroes, the only ones that thousands of them take away (a normal person will not agree), who will then eke out a miserable life in an iron barrel and risk their health, but make fast ships that quickly turn back and forth and provide decent the conditions of stay on which ordinary people of flesh and blood could fly - ordinary specialists and ordinary scientists - as simply on a business trip for several months.
      1. +5
        4 March 2017 12: 18
        The optimal solution would be to create an interplanetary spacecraft based on a sofa. This would allow for the massive colonization of outer space by ordinary sofa specialists.
        1. 0
          4 March 2017 13: 24
          Well, everything is clear - the "specialist" has come! To "formulate conclusions." laughing
        2. +1
          4 March 2017 16: 56
          Quote: Curious
          The optimal solution would be to create an interplanetary spacecraft based on a sofa. This would allow for the massive colonization of outer space by ordinary sofa specialists.

          Special came and said that the astronauts do not rest laughing Do not dare to litter Mars with sofas !!!!
    2. +6
      4 March 2017 14: 35
      Quote: Curious
      Since the author does not object to the additions,

      I am for it".
      1 ... N
      you need to understand that it will not fit into the article.
      And so on the Mobius strip this opus became similar.
      I just told something interesting (we still need to do a greenhouse with a child)
    3. +1
      4 March 2017 16: 55
      Quote: Curious
      12. A mandatory requirement during an interplanetary expedition is the implementation of planetary quarantine requirements in accordance with the recommendations of COSPAR to prevent contamination of the surface of Mars or another planet by terrestrial microorganisms and the transfer of possible Martian living objects to Earth.

      This is the number! And doesn’t that alien microorganisms simply fall from space to Earth (and any other planet)? No contamination occurs?
      1. +1
        4 March 2017 17: 03
        The Committee for Space Research (also COSPAR from the English. COSPAR - Committee on Space Research) is a committee under the International Council for Science. It was founded in 1958 in order to help scientists from different countries exchange information obtained using space satellites and automatic interplanetary stations (AMS). The headquarters is in Paris.
        All questions there
        1. 0
          4 March 2017 17: 12
          Quote: Curious
          All questions there

          And then the committee? It is you who designated this problem under number twelve, as a necessary solution for interplanetary flight. So you agree with the committee and can defend its opinion.
          1. +1
            4 March 2017 19: 27
            https://postnauka.ru/video/10786 Там все доступно.
            1. 0
              4 March 2017 22: 28
              Quote: Curious
              https://postnauka.ru/video/10786

              Are you kidding?
              youtube.com
              everything is disproved there
              1. 0
                4 March 2017 23: 53
                Congratulations! You have passed the test.
      2. +2
        4 March 2017 18: 47
        Quote: KaPToC
        And doesn’t that alien microorganisms simply fall from space to Earth (and any other planet)? No contamination occurs?


        Well, in fairness it’s hard to assume that organics (microbes, bacteria, viruses) from Earth can get to Mars (or vice versa).
        yet volcanoes do not set a second cosmic velocity.
        Theoretically: fragments of former planets (asteroids meteorites) can bring something to Earth.
        The situation is described: "The Andromeda Strain" (Eng. The Andromeda Strain; 1969) / Michael Crichton (John Michael Crichton;

        A military satellite from the “Scoop” series, after hitting a micrometeorite, descended from orbit and fell near the small town of Piedmont in Arizona. A curious resident uncovered the satellite before the military team arrived, and an unknown illness escaped to freedom.

        I recommend, at 1 times interesting.
        Although unlikely: in space, disinfection and emf and temperature (+ 200 GRS in the sun), and even when descending under 3000К

        But the infection of other calm planets (Mars) with the organic matter from the Earth is quite real, the spacecraft we send there.
        On Venus is unlikely: + 450 grC + P
        1. 0
          4 March 2017 18: 59
          Quote: opus
          I recommend, at 1 times interesting.

          This is just a movie, do you really think that the scheme invented by the director over a cup of coffee really works?
          Quote: opus
          Although unlikely: in space, disinfection and emf and temperature (+ 200 GRS in the sun), and even when descending under 3000К

          Nevertheless, there are living organisms in space and they come to Earth (and Mars) constantly.
  7. +2
    4 March 2017 11: 19
    The issues addressed in manned spacecraft are directly dependent on technologies that are applicable to a wide variety of conversion processes. Now we can absolutely say that there is a potential opportunity to move to a new stage in the creation of new vital elements on completely new approaches. The chemical transformation processes of many substances can be replaced by direct conversion. The essence of the new technology is to create new substances with an order of denser crystalline structure at the atomic-molecular level. Only in this way is it possible, without increasing the weight and volume required for delivery to orbital complexes, to increase their actual number. It is only necessary to possess such technology that will allow these substances to be converted to the appropriate state on Earth and transported and converted to the ISS. And such a concept exists and it is completely real in implementation. In the meantime, we can only talk about the energy possibilities of using such a new technology. All, absolutely everything, technological devices for transporting liquid products to the ISS may not be energy-consuming, but e-generators. magnetic energy. But in order to possess all the potential of knowledge, you need to understand the basis of such a technology for converting some substances into others.
    Mankind quickly came to a dead end when further development is hampered by the lack of analysis methods in expanded potential. A breakthrough into the future begins with small fundamental decisions that fundamentally change all basic technologies
    1. 0
      4 March 2017 12: 10
      Mankind quickly reached an impasse

      Gridasov, and who will quickly get us out of the dead end?
      1. 0
        4 March 2017 12: 20
        There are questions and answers that can only be heard by inner perception.
        1. +3
          4 March 2017 13: 25
          You are more mysterious than ever, Gridasov.
          1. +1
            4 March 2017 14: 41
            Undertake to explain an unthinkable thing. If hydrogen is in the first place in the periodic table, it is obvious that everything else consists of the complex structures of this and other elements and is a gradient of one and the other. After all, the alchemists set about searching for the creation of gold from other substances, not only for the production of precious metals, but also for the search for such a transformative technology. Therefore, air and water are also derivatives. But why? After all, WATER is not just a substance, It is a reasonable MATTER. It implies the creation of life on the planet in the information function of each and everything to be what it must fulfill and coordinate its existence. Therefore, we can talk about the technology of creating not only deuterium and tritium, but also new forms of the structure of WATER. It can be dry and light but very dense in structure, which can always be turned into natural WATER for us.
            1. 0
              4 March 2017 17: 01
              Quote: gridasov
              After all, the alchemists wondered the search for the creation of gold from other substances

              Physicists have long learned to make gold from ... other substances, but it is very expensive. No, not that, it is VERY EXPENSIVE.
              1. +1
                5 March 2017 11: 36
                "Physicists have long learned how to make gold from ... other substances" ////

                Come on, come on? Of which? Your application - the Nobel pulls! Gold synthesis? belay
                1. 0
                  5 March 2017 19: 44
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  Come on, come on? Of which? Your application - the Nobel pulls! Gold synthesis?

                  The simplest nuclear reaction, only VERY energy consuming, for this they do not give the Nobel.
                  From lead
                  1. +1
                    6 March 2017 11: 38
                    "The simplest nuclear reaction" ///

                    Ah ... nuclear reaction.
                    The neighbors of gold are platinum and mercury. Platinum is already more expensive than gold.
                    Remains mercury. It is theoretically possible ... recourse
            2. 0
              5 March 2017 00: 56
              Quote: gridasov
              After all, WATER is not just a substance, It is a reasonable MATTER.

              So urine is reasonable? belay
              1. 0
                5 March 2017 11: 03
                What is rationality, after all? The fact that the substance contains the algorithms for interactions with one substance or another is based on the parameters of the speed of such transformations and their boundary levels. After all, the key question is exactly what defines and how the information component of the behavior of any substance. Water is the most capacious substance in its ability to carry out information processes, as the equivalent of the physical processes of transformation of absolutely any other elements and substances, and ultimately WATER forms life on Earth.
    2. 0
      4 March 2017 16: 59
      Quote: gridasov
      The essence of the new technology is to create new substances with an order of denser crystalline structure at the atomic-molecular level. Only in this way is it possible, without increasing the weight and volume required for delivery to orbital complexes, to increase their actual number.

      I think you are talking some kind of nonsense. How not to condense - the mass does not change.
      1. 0
        4 March 2017 19: 14
        And I thought everyone knows what happens to water that is quickly cooled to extremely low temperatures.
        1. 0
          4 March 2017 19: 28
          What side does this apply to astronautics?
          1. 0
            5 March 2017 11: 05
            After all, the conversation is about how to convert water into such a substance in order to preserve all its properties to provide it with the lowest possible weight and volume. And for space travel is a matter of livelihood.
            1. 0
              5 March 2017 19: 45
              Quote: gridasov
              After all, the conversation is about how to convert water into such a substance in order to preserve all its properties to provide it with the lowest possible weight and volume.

              From the fact that the crystal lattice of ice becomes more dense, the weight does not change.
  8. +4
    4 March 2017 13: 10
    Quote: Bongo
    Before I read to the end, I already knew who the author was.

    Sergei! Anton is recognizable, but like you

    Anton. Thank you for the article. As always at the highest level

    Quote: avt
    Have you ever looked at the table from the hotel from the 113th?

    There were hotels above the roof. probably more than on all other sites. And EMNIP all are "numbered" laughing

    Quote: Rabinovich
    It feels like eating from tubes

    Of the tubes they ate before. Now in tubes only a small fraction of the products
    1. +5
      4 March 2017 14: 41
      Quote: Old26
      Anton is recognizable, but like you

      Prvt.
      A "Affectionate Hand of American Themis"
      https://topwar.ru/109909-laskovaya-dlan-amerikans
      koy-femidy.html
      no one began to read. I thought it would be Wed4. There are no carders, hackers and drug addicts among you. Lawyers, however, the same is not ...
      Quote: Old26
      There were hotels above the roof.

      I liked the Gagarinsky start more, there Gorbachev (like him) conde in rooms ordered to put a laf.
      And the river mutnyuchka in Leninsk never liked.
      When you bathe, it feels like taking a bath in the Ganges: the density of heads on the pseudo-beach is comparable, the current color is greenish-yellowish. But the same turbid water.
      What about a compartment truck with compartment cars (from Leninsk to platforms)?
      1. 0
        23 May 2017 12: 09
        smile
        Quote: opus
        What about a compartment truck with compartment cars (from Leninsk to platforms)?

        Is it not left in the USSR?
  9. +3
    4 March 2017 14: 17
    "Return air for breathing,
    drinking water return water ...
    And chlorella - damn creation!
    our interplanetary food! "(c)
  10. +4
    4 March 2017 14: 23
    Excellent article, read with pleasure. Water-air / energy in space has always been interested ....
  11. +5
    4 March 2017 14: 55
    Thank you all for "thank you." Who could read (to the end)
    1. +4
      4 March 2017 15: 12
      Quote: opus
      Thank you all for "thank you." Who could read (to the end)

      I read, although I had to consult. Fortunately there is someone! good
      1. +4
        4 March 2017 16: 07
        Quote: zyablik.olga
        although I had to consult

        Feeling "blonde around the corner"?
        wink
        Soon 8 March ...
        Pension is clearly not enough for everyone (I will give more in Russia than sir, and this is the happiness of our country (for us) ..
        On a business trip, or something?
        Although:
  12. +4
    4 March 2017 15: 01
    Great, Anton! good The article went to bookmarks. smile
    1. +5
      4 March 2017 22: 07
      Quote: Stroporez
      Great, Anton!

      Yes, "Knife hook" (add "knife") advised daughter ..
      Thank you.
      boom try hard.
      All my life I despised Humanitarians
      3,14 not tossing bags!
      However, as I began to caress, I added: 90% do not read (comprehend) the essence.
      Grammar is important to them. these are hamsters:



      On the other hand, Oleg Chuvakin is certainly right! And I apologize for the diarrhea that poured
      (on him)
      It’s better Mart to dryuchit (and in the case) than a talking head that didn’t generate ANYTHING thunder of verbal diarrhea (neither prose, nor story, nor article) - a hamster.
      For example: jokes of our youth
      / everything in the world is relative
      good
      Ps. Well, I definitely won’t write to a person (in PM or something like that), indicating to him that he is illiterate.
      It’s not cultural, for sure
      1. +3
        4 March 2017 23: 55
        Quote: opus
        It’s better Mart to dryuchit (and in the case) than a talking head that didn’t generate ANYTHING thunder of verbal diarrhea (neither prose, nor story, nor article) - a hamster.

        I applaud you!
        I spawn, sometimes, thatрism some writers of "statues".
        I have experience in the development of MLRS, I read some. "Psateli", the hair gets on ....
        Thank you! soldier drinks
      2. +3
        5 March 2017 00: 44
        Ps. Well, I definitely won’t write to a person (in PM or something like that), indicating to him that he is illiterate.

        Anecdote in the topic:
        - Abram, what is this blanche under your eye?
        - Yes, can you imagine, Sema, yesterday we sat with the whole department of philology in a restaurant, relaxed calmly. All are intelligent people: And here came the husband of Alla Vasilievna - a former military man - and got into a conversation:
        He says: "I had one x in the company ...".
        I, of course, corrected: "Not in the company, but in the mouth" ...
        1. +4
          5 March 2017 02: 39
          I, of course, corrected: "Not in the company, but in the mouth" ...

          + + + + + + + + + +
          sent to his wife and daughter ..
          OTHERWISE "FALCON"
          they are not skvalygi-HANJA = appreciate
  13. +4
    4 March 2017 18: 11
    Quote: opus
    I liked the Gagarinsky start more, there Gorbachev (like him) conde in rooms ordered to put a laf.

    Alas, I most often either on the 10th or on the 17th platform. Of course, I’ve also been at work at others, but not in hotels

    Quote: opus
    And the river mutnyuchka in Leninsk never liked.
    When you bathe, it feels like taking a bath in the Ganges: the density of heads on the pseudo-beach is comparable, the current color is greenish-yellowish. But the same turbid water.

    I remember the first trip. The first trip was day 3. They returned back on the same side. Our elder, Major Gottwald instructed
    1. Water from the tap is not a gun.
    2. Do not open the tap; do not wash your face with water

    To the question, how to wash said
    there are two drawers of mineral water for hygiene in the room. To the question, what to drink - he answered, and to drink what is in the refrigerator

    Quote: opus
    What about a compartment truck with compartment cars (from Leninsk to platforms)?

    the name got so eaten that sometimes it called an electric train out of habit a motor transporter laughing
    1. +3
      4 March 2017 19: 07
      Quote: Old26
      Alas, I am most often either on the 10 or 17 platform.

      swam know

      My colleague, on the appropriate holidays, often recall the movement from site to site in the kung (!!!) about the sauna, so the sauna. Overboard + 43grS, and inside the microwave.
      And also when never forgot Star Tulips:


      и

      и
  14. +1
    4 March 2017 19: 50
    Quote: Izotovp
    Information about mold passed

    Cosmonaut Alexander Serebrov repairing the filter at the WORLD, blew the tube with his mouth, and an unknown microbe fell into the lungs and stomach. He suffered from an unknown disease for 10 years and died at 69. Scientists from the Institute of Epidemiology and Microbiology did not make an accurate diagnosis, they only said that it was an unknown mutant who did not know how to treat. And it is not yet known whether these mutants survived after flooding.
  15. +3
    4 March 2017 21: 09
    Quote: opus
    And also when never forgot Star Tulips:

    Yes. especially impressed in the spring. You fly up, and below the sea. A month later, no trace

    Quote: 16112014nk
    Quote: Izotovp
    Information about mold passed

    Cosmonaut Alexander Serebrov repairing the filter at the WORLD, blew the tube with his mouth, and an unknown microbe fell into the lungs and stomach. He suffered from an unknown disease for 10 years and died at 69. Scientists from the Institute of Epidemiology and Microbiology did not make an accurate diagnosis, they only said that it was an unknown mutant who did not know how to treat. And it is not yet known whether these mutants survived after flooding.

    Okay, you could believe in this bike, but that's bad luck. His last flight ended on January 14, 1994, and he died in 2013, that is, 19 years later. And as they say, he suddenly died.
    1. +2
      5 March 2017 02: 46
      Quote: Old26
      Okay, it would be possible in this bike

      +
      at the same time.
      PS. fake diarrhea, after all, not only America and the EU has embraced! and infected us.
      ... well, why is it so hard to get into a wiki and add 1 + 2?
  16. 0
    5 March 2017 10: 58
    Quote: Rabinovich
    Thank you for the article.
    Yes, space is a dangerous thing.
    I don’t understand what they (astronauts) are doing there, what they are doing. They say that some research, but it is not clear what exactly and why. It feels like eating from tubes and shooting a video. In general, they fly without a break on the ISS, it is not clear why.

    Russian, in particular, grow ruby ​​crystals for super powerful lasers! 1
  17. +1
    5 March 2017 10: 59
    Frankly, the ISS is a flag show. On the part of all participants, although to varying degrees.

    Of course, research is being conducted on it; the experiments are certainly important, but so far (and in the foreseeable future) they are terribly far from the people and, in general, from reality.

    What can one fundamentally do there? If you recall the story:

    1. Astrophysics is both a large solar observatory on Skylab and Quantum on the World, not counting any small things. But as practice has shown, a person is not needed here; it is generally harmful. Astrophysics is well done by specialized automatic devices. Hubble and the future Webb do without a man, not counting the episodes of Hubble repair, which will remain episodes, because the Shuttles are no more, and the orbits of the observatories lie far from Earth; no shuttles can get there.

    2. The notorious space production. There was so much enthusiasm and hope for the production of new materials and medicines. However, there are no orbital plants - because rocket technology is at the engine stage, and it will remain right up to any reasonable forecast horizon. And, in general, given that the createdаby cosmonauts’s eyes (this is not Maidan, but it seems laughing ) microgravity is harmful to production = plants; if they appear, they will be automatic.

    3. To study the Earth, the ISS is not needed; There are specialized automatic satellites.

    4. For communication, navigation - not needed at all.

    5. Even for military needs no station is needed, despite the real flying cannon Diamonds and the paper MOL.

    6. All that remains is cosmic biology, for which man, but as an object of study, is really needed. But this is a thing in itself; we know how and how many people can live in zero gravity, but why is this all? Nobody is going to fly anywhere, so a closed LSS is not interesting. Moreover, the showman Musk promises bars on the Martian colonial transport - what other regeneration of urine? laughing laughing

    7. Tourism. laughing This is where the ISS comes in handy. So the clown as a space tourist is very appropriate. am

    Until atomic decay and synthesis reach space, despite the paranoid schizophrenia of all Greenpeace workers, there will be no manned space, there will be simulacra (see ISS).
  18. +1
    5 March 2017 11: 39
    Very interesting. And the pictures are great. Thank!
  19. 0
    8 March 2017 07: 50
    Everything works for the Americans on earth. But in zero gravity they have big problems. Therefore, today there is only one country that not only has all the life-support technologies for flying to Mars, but has conducted resource tests of this equipment. It’s not hard to guess which one.
    And to summarize the availability of technology among partners, then we still have a Soviet backlog. And it must be used.
  20. aiw
    0
    6 June 2017 16: 28

    However, the obtained carbohydrate-monosaccharides were a mixture of racemates - tetrose, pentoses, hexoses, heptoses, which do not possess optical activity.

    Note I even try to think about the possibility of delving into the “wiki knowledge” in order to understand the meaning of these terms.


    Well it is simple. Sugars of natural origin (from beets for example) have optical activity, i.e. a sugar solution rotates the plane of polarization of transmitted light, this is due to the chiral selectivity of all living things. The fact is that even monosaccharides have at least two isomers (the so-called L- and D-), i.e. these are molecules with the same chem. composition, but of different "shapes", they look conditionally speaking like fragments of a spiral twisted in different directions. So, in nature, D-isomers of monosugars are found, but L-isomers are not found. D-isomers are produced through all sorts of biochemical processes, and participate in all sorts of biochemical processes (well, for example, they are fermented by bacteria and converted into alcohol).

    L-isomers can only be obtained by chemical means; during the synthesis, L and D isomers will be obtained in equal proportions - which is what comes to the station. But sadness is that L-isomers do not / do not participate in biochemical processes. Those. if you drive alcohol from chem. of synthesized sugar, half of the sugar will remain unprocessed (at best); in the worst case, this wrong sugar (the wrong isomer is twisted) will spoil the thread in the body. Therefore, it is better not to eat such sugar ;-)

    Something like this.