Euroarmy - this is not a renovation. Understand necessary!

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Not even a week passed before the European Parliament, albeit with a small majority, but adopted a resolution on the creation of a unified European army. The ideas that had been in the air since Trump’s unexpected victory in the US presidential elections began to receive some legal form.

Euroarmy - this is not a renovation. Understand necessary!




Oh, how scared European politicians are the simple words of the American president about paying for military protection! It was scared. After all, it is no secret to anyone that, with the possible exception of Germany, there are no serious armies in European states. Yes, and the Bundeswehr in its current state, of course, is different from the superamii of the Baltic countries, but, nevertheless, "unfit".

But the question of validity will analyze below.

NATO? Americans are increasingly showing "teeth." They do not intend to pay for Europeans. To be completely objective, the United States simply decided to make money with the hands of Trump on the protection of Europeans. A sort of euroChOP: “US Army, we will protect you anywhere and from anyone!” Normal approach of a normal businessman.

Another factor that pushes Europe towards its own army is precisely the charge for the American army. The fact is that 2% of GDP, this fee is not limited. And pragmatic Europeans consider money as good as Americans. There comes a time when “feeding your army” becomes more profitable than “feeding someone else's”. And in order to feed the army, you must have it.

In general, the idea of ​​pan-European armed forces has been vital since the very idea of ​​the European Union was born. That is from the 60-ies of the last century.

And today, the European Union has its own strengths ... It is difficult to say what the forces are, but they exist.

There is a multinational 1,5 rapid response team of thousands of people. There is a German-French brigade, a battalion manned in Scandinavia, and a newly created Polish-Lithuanian-Ukrainian peacekeeping battalion.

It seems to be all ...

Strange, but many of those who should really deal with defense issues, including in Russia, did not understand the importance of the decision of the European Parliament. What is the European army? Who will be in this army? Who is she going to fight with? Good questions. And who will give them intelligible answers is not yet clear. But certainly not Mr. Juncker.

But let's just try to understand what the pan-European army is. And what will it be suitable for (if it will be).

Remember, how many times did Europe collect the pan-European army? It is common European. It is not necessary to have seven genius in the forehead to answer this question. There were only two such armies! One was created by Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte. And the second is Adolf Hitler. And both of these armies were not created for defense.

You can also recall the experience of the army of Austria-Hungary in the First World War. There were all there too, Germans, Czechs, Austrians, Hungarians, Romanians, Slovaks ... Those who have free time can spend it in search of victories of this camp.

Very often in the comments on this issue, a sensible thought slips. The army is not only soldiers with machine guns and other weapons. It is also a huge life support system for this military mechanism. It is clear that in a normal army there are several support soldiers for one soldier on the front line. And to create such a system from scratch is not the matter of one year or even ten years.

All right Creating such a life support system for the army really takes time. Even with sufficient funds. It is necessary not only to look for the location of parts, arsenals, warehouses, airfields. We need to build them! But this is only theoretically. And practically?

There is practically a military infrastructure in Europe. This is not only military bases, etc., that today belongs to NATO. This is what remains of the former Europe. From the time when European countries had armies. Not what the whole world is laughing about today, like the Baltic "armed forces", but normal armies. Yes, today this infrastructure is largely lost. In many ways, destroyed. But in many ways it is preserved. Especially in Germany and France.

According to expert estimates, it will take from 5 to 7 years to recreate the life support system of the European army using the means that NATO has. Without use - from 7 to 9-10 years. And through these years we will get an army of a united Europe! Well, not us, they will get.

I foresee objections. The EU is on the verge of a big restructuring, and possibly decay. Fully admit this thought. Only he stands on this threshold since its inception. Worth and will stand. Exit from the UK to the UK? And what does that prove? Nothing at all. Is it only that the British felt in time the change in the mood of American society? And then with great stretch.

The small countries of Europe are well aware that alone they no one calls them in any way. And the mood of society within these countries is increasingly “smelling” of nationalist moods. Peoples no longer want to be pan-European. They want to be Germans, Italians, French, Czechs ... They want to have their own history. How do Russians, Chinese, Americans have it ...

And it’s not a fact that even new threats like ISIL (banned in the Russian Federation) will serve to rally states, and the united armed forces will become a kind of foundation for unification. Rather, a village like Greece or Macedonia is easier to defend on your own. But you have to defend something, and not someone else there ...

And here a contradiction appears. Not a contradiction between countries. The contradiction between the existence of NATO and the EU army. Which, whether Europeans or Americans want it or not, plays on the side of Russia. On the one hand, a third force appears in Europe, which theoretically will strengthen the NATO bloc in opposition to Russia. So, will strengthen the United States in the struggle for supremacy in European politics.

And on the other hand? On the other hand, where is the guarantee that the European army will be an obedient tool in the hands of NATO and the United States? Where is the guarantee that the Europeans will want to serve the Americans in the future, and not ask them out? After all, not only we have voices about the occupying forces in Europe. This is openly talked about in leading European countries. Rich Germany no longer wants to run errands for the United States. She wants more independence.

It is unlikely that the United States will calmly respond to European initiatives. Are there any real ways to leave the situation as it is today? Maybe there is. And this is not only (and more correctly - not so much) Trump’s political decision. These are wonderful economic levers that Washington owns.

Over the years that have passed since the introduction of the single European currency, we were inspired by the idea that “oyro” is a competitor to the dollar. A currency that can withstand an American on equal terms. Only one detail related to the euro, try not to mention. And the detail is substantial. What keeps the euro? How is this currency secured? Ultimately, where is the gold of European countries stored?

So if desired, the United States can bring down the euro overnight. And what is the result? As a result, we get Europe, which simply has no money for the construction of a modern army. Europe, which can only rely on itself. Allies? Who? Americans as the authors of the "mess" disappear. Russia? After all that has happened over the years? Yes, and build an army against yourself? China? The Chinese are waiting for the "corpse of the enemy to pass by." And so on all positions.

In general, despite the fact that the idea of ​​creating a unified army of Europe is a failure today, we should think about it. In order not to miss the initiative. The situation described above is today. And what will happen tomorrow? And what if the US supports the creation of a European army? It is like the "appendage" to NATO. Trump as a true businessman has so far done his business in his usual style. Demand everything, and then give up to the necessary features. The partner will be happy that he could at least slightly conquer you, and you will be with profit.

Formally, today NATO does not oppose Euro-Initiatives. Formally and for now. What will happen next - time will tell. But the fact that Americans just will not leave Europe is a fact. Lose control of Europe? It is unlikely that the United States will go to such nonsense.

Easier to make pay. Moreover, many experts are unanimous in saying that Europe has no money today to create a full-fledged army.

And, most importantly, against whom? Against Russia?

Let everyone answer the question: is it really scary for Russia to have this idea of ​​creating an Euro-army? And will this army be dangerous for our armed forces?
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  1. +2
    22 February 2017 15: 11
    The invention of a bicycle can scare, the question of who or what?
    1. +1
      22 February 2017 16: 54
      Quote: Teberii
      The invention of a bicycle can scare, the question of who or what?


      I don’t know who they scare, but they did it in their pants. And if Trump offers to pay them a roof, and this is no longer a EuroCHOP. Further more and bzdets to Europe, she is in ... opera. belay
    2. +3
      22 February 2017 17: 48
      And who will become the head of this army, is it really Germany again.
      Then you need to immediately wet them, and do not wait for the sudden June 22.
      1. +3
        22 February 2017 18: 25
        And who will become the head of this army


        This is the most painful issue, even in the operational command of NATO forces, are carried out by the Americans. But today, the common European army is a centrifugal route for the EU. Not only will it not pull, but it will embroil everyone even more, create internal coalitions, for example, Poles, French, Germans, Croats, Austrians and more.
      2. +3
        22 February 2017 20: 30
        Looking forward to a military conflict between the European army and NATO forces? I have nothing against it.
        1. 0
          23 February 2017 20: 05
          Can Russia lead the Euro-army? We all understand that Russia is part of the West.
  2. +3
    22 February 2017 15: 23
    EU Army? !! Yes, this is not science fiction !!! As long as there is no single tax policy in the European Union, this idea is simply absurd! The legislative power of the European Parliament is only advisory in nature and not binding on one or another member of this union. They are far from unity, so there is no point in talking seriously about a single euro army.
  3. +2
    22 February 2017 15: 45
    The more resources (material, financial and human) will be spent on the implementation of this crazy idea, the better for us, because will weaken the enemy.
  4. +2
    22 February 2017 15: 54
    hear what if the young europeans get money to eat from brussels ... and now brussel needs money for the viisk part belay the cycle of the Brussels denies? request
    but then what about the amersion of McCain? Uncleaned again wants a denyuh from Brussels, but a dime, dumb, the GDP with the call sign "angel" spent on migrants and pederasts (and forward) ...
    is it like this ... is Estonia supposed to confront Mordor? huh? and tseevropa?
    so, you, there, in Europe, filter the bazaar
  5. +2
    22 February 2017 15: 55
    Ultimately, where is the gold of European states stored?

    Recently there was information that Germany had completed the process of returning German gold from foreign (USA, France) banks.
  6. +2
    22 February 2017 16: 27
    Yes, let them do anything. The answer is, as in the old song, "Vasya, beat, I’ll cover my tail. Together we will cover it with a phantom. These Vietnamese are no match for us."
  7. +1
    22 February 2017 16: 39
    They want to have their own story. As Russians, Chinese, Americans have it ...

    Especially the latter are distinguished by a very long history of their own! lol laughing
    1. +4
      22 February 2017 16: 50
      However, in any non-urban town, every year they celebrate with great fanfare the great fight of three cowboys with six Indians ... The duration of the story does not mean its knowledge ... You laugh, ask the youngsters who are nearby, why we celebrate it on February 23 ... I’m sure you won’t hear the answer . Not one ... This is our story ... Ukrainians therefore rewrite their own, because no one knows the real
      1. 0
        22 February 2017 17: 59
        Move your version of February 23.
        It was believed that on February 23 the Red Army won a major victory over the German troops near Pskov and Narva. However, many historians have questioned this fact and considered it a fictitious myth. The fact is that there is no documentary evidence of this fact. There is not even any mention of any significant victories in the newspapers of those days. And even a year after these events (it would seem, on the anniversary of the holiday) the newspapers did not write anything about it. Such references began to appear only much later.
        The origins of the holiday should be sought in the 1918 year, since it was in this year that decrees were signed on the creation of the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army (RKKA) and the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Fleet (RKKF). The First World War was on, and the young Soviet state needed an army for protection. However, none of these decrees was signed on February 23. The Red Army was created on 28 on January, and the Red Army on 11 on February.
        In 1922, the Decree was signed on the solemn celebration of February 23 of the fourth anniversary of the birth of the Red Army. And in previous years, the holiday was not celebrated for some reason. hi
  8. +3
    22 February 2017 17: 07
    Wanting is not harmful ... Will it give? Question: for whom so many equipment and soldiers were brought to Europe? Defend against “aggressive Russians”? Not funny. The reality is that these forces will be used to suppress all kinds of riots, such as withdrawing from NATO, "independence", etc. ... I place the Euroarmy here too. So want and be able to do different things, especially when Wishlist rests against the host’s ban ..
  9. +1
    22 February 2017 17: 47
    Are you naive? will not be able to. taxes will not be collected. European crises lead them to Russia. only in different ways do they come to us. those who swagger, they say Napoleon and Hitler. I recall 27 millions, very large destruction. as something seriously necessary. the children of our elite are teaching MOV there today and buying real estate. maybe they forgot how a country without a single shot from their side, for tampaks and sneakers leaked. right now the heroes will begin to write: it's not me. Yes, it’s clear that you are not. you are a member, not decisive. more serious comrades. something like ours in Ukraine. only cheers! and shit on the neck. only we are not very far gone from 90x. I see no reason to doubt their intentions. Do you know the ethnic composition of the us army in vietnam? take an interest. how much genetic rabble is now in europe? they can do different things. no doubt about it. successfully invested money and the centuries-old territories of Russia and the centuries-old territories of Russia under their influence. or didn’t you understand this too? as in Japan we e ...... but we did not understand. hi
  10. +1
    22 February 2017 18: 10
    the factor that pushes Europe to its own army is precisely the pay for the American army. The thing is that such a payment will not be limited to 2% of GDP.
    There will be more, but later. The US will be forced to pay more for protection.
    Since 89g, the United States allowed to reduce (from 2%) and spend money on the absorption of Eastern Europe.
    The takeover took place and decided to return to the old costs of the army.
    Now, with a recession in (?) In the world economy (and in Asia, too, a recession? Or leaving the gap between Europe and the USA), it is necessary to keep the captured countries and their influence in them. Example - Belene NPP.
  11. +2
    22 February 2017 18: 27
    Something tells me that it's not just that in Europe the conversation is about one's own army. Here is the most important question: Who needs this most? Well, it’s not in Poland with tribals who listened to them and will listen to them, and not in Ukraine, it is not there and is not expected, after the brexit the Germans and French remain, the French will soon leave the EU, the Germans remain, because the Italians and the Spaniards are silent . Merkel ... most of all fuss about managing to build a new empire for herself, if she succeeds, that's where the roots must be found, and not in Brussels, Brussels is just a tribune, the announcer voicing Germany. Ahead of them, the most difficult thing is to send the Yankees home - this is the first problem if they want to become independent and need to urgently do something with refugees - the second problem for Europe is carefully prepared for them by the Americans in advance ...
  12. +2
    22 February 2017 18: 39
    No wonder that in the Patriot Park a copy of the Reichstag was built by us, oh no wonder laughing
  13. +1
    22 February 2017 19: 31
    Ultimately, where is the gold of European states stored?

    the author is a bit behind life - German gold from the United States returned to Germany.
    I think that Obama did not accidentally proclaim Merkel the leader of globalism-liberalism - gold and will work in her elections for a new term.
    1. 0
      22 February 2017 21: 15
      But will NATO stand up for the Euroarmy? Capturing the Germans ....
    2. +1
      22 February 2017 21: 25
      well, well, well . hth then? German land patriot? fellow from America you can get: a coup, democracy on wings, and a base in the garden. Americans haven’t returned the debt yet. Well maybe Nigra framed and explained to the elderly blondie Angel, supposedly supposedly gold under a skirt. but I guess that under the skirt, except for the bug and the tattered crack, there is nothing and nothing. do not strongly trust the Anglo-American slaveholders and their slaves. hi
  14. 0
    22 February 2017 22: 48
    Any army in Europe, except ours, is against Russia. This is an axiom affirmed by the CENTURIES,
  15. +3
    22 February 2017 22: 59
    Almost military infrastructure in Europe is.


    The only statement in the article that you can agree with.

    So, if desired, the US can bring down the euro overnight.


    Debatable. When the euro was introduced, it cost 2 times more than the dollar. 2 times less than the dollar, the euro became after the bombing of Yugoslavia in 99. And the United States is not omnipotent right now, we see oil prices.

    We must look deeper. All the actions of politicians have a double or even a triple bottom. There is a large operational-strategic operation. According to military art, certain measures are being taken to disguise it, according to the terminology of our probable friends "ensuring the secrecy of the activity of troops (forces) and disorientation of the enemy."
    Components:
    1. Distracting actions
    2 Demo Actions
    3. Disinformation
    4.Imitation.

    All this we are observing. We just can’t figure out where what.
    According to 70 migration services,% of all refugees who arrived in Europe are young people from 16 to 30 years. Suspicious? And how! Moreover, knowing that in all other conflicts this percentage is women and children, the elderly. You asked what they will do? To serve in the euro army. Could this be?

    In Germany, the press is not hysterical about the fact that there are Isil terrorists among the refugees, but about the fact that in Germany there are about 1500 people of Putin's sleeping agents from among the Chechens, and they will soon begin to carry out terrorist attacks across Europe on his orders. Do they work alone in the press, or is it someone specially doing it?

    There is military infrastructure, soldiers were brought in, public opinion was prepared. When terrorist attacks begin, who will be to blame for the Europeans?
    That is the reason for the next "ATO".
  16. 0
    23 February 2017 05: 58
    Historically, the idea is not new. There is such a fun among Europeans: once a century to gather and go to the East to get there in full from Russia.
  17. 0
    23 February 2017 22: 13
    Questioning us: “And, most importantly, against whom? Against Russia?”, Does the author pretend to be naive or does he really think so? Before writing on such topics, you must first understand the issue and shake off the pollen of virginity.