Instead of MiG-35 126 fighter jets Rafale

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Instead of MiG-35 126 fighter jets Rafale


The project to create the Rafale aircraft was saved thanks to the victoria of the company Dassault (France) in the tender for the sale of 126 fighters for the Indian Air Force. In an uncompromising struggle, businessmen from the banks of the Loire won against the creators of the European fighter Eurofighter Typhoon, reducing the cost of the project. A bit earlier MiG-35 (Russia) fizzled out.

According to mass media from India, the fighter of the IV generation of versatile use of the Rafale (“Rafale”) from the company Dassault (France) won the tender for the supply of 126 aircraft of this type for the Indian Air Force. The official French authorities announced this, adding that some points of the transaction need to be finalized.

“Our contract, but we need to finish something,” said the representative of the French side, P. Lellouche, to whom France-Presse refers. “We are finalizing the contract,” he remarked, hinting at the confidentiality of consultations.

The buyer plans to replace the obsolete MiG-21 aircraft, which constitute almost a third of India’s military aviation potential, in the format of this transaction.

MiG-21 Indian Air Force


Multi-purpose fighters Rafale (France) for the first time will be exported to other countries, and winning the tender de facto saved the project of production of these aircraft from closing. Previously, the French Air Force acted as a monopolist in orders for such equipment. At the same time, the company tried to expand the geography of sales by offering aircraft equipment to the UAE Air Force and Switzerland.

After losing the tender for the 2011 fighter for the Swiss Air Force at the end of 22, French Defense Minister Gerard Longuet announced that production of the Rafale was discontinued as a project if consumer foreign demand was not adjusted to them. Consequently, the purchase by India of a large batch of aircraft reanimated this program. It is quite natural that after this successful transaction, Dassault shares in the Paris stock market went up by 20% ..

At the final stage of the tender, the competition for the supply of fighters for the Indian Air Force was conducted between the French company Dassault, which represented Rafale, and a conglomeration of European aircraft manufacturers, who launched the Eurofighter Typhoon combat aircraft.

According to Reuters, the French aircraft industry managed to win the tender for 2 conditions. The first is a lower price, the second is the similarity of the new fighters with the Mirage 2000, which are already in service with the Indian Air Force. The contract amount is 10,4 billion dollars. At the same time, according to The Financial Times, India wanted to spend a lot more on the purchase of 126 fighters - up to 20 billion dollars.

French dassualt rafale

MiG-35 multipurpose fighter


According to the positions of the contract, the French must "invest" 50% of the transaction amount in the aircraft industry in the areas of the buyer state. Therefore, initially, 18 fighters are going to be exported to India, the remaining 108 products will be assembled by the aircraft manufacturer Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd ..

At the same time, Russia also had decent chances to win this promising order. The tender for the purchase of aircraft was announced in 2007 year. Among the participants were 6 aircraft manufacturers - MiG-35 (manufacturer - Russian IC MiG), Gripen (SAAB) from Sweden, Eurofighter Typhoon (conglomerate), Rafale from France, and F / A-18 and F-16 (Lockheed Martin ) from America.

Statistics reports that in the 2010, the Indian Air Force was armed with 48 MiG-29 fighters. In 2012, RAC MiG will export MiG-29K fighter jets to India (ship’s for the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier, which is under construction here) under the contract signed in 2010. The cost of 29 Russian fighters, which will be sent to India, is one and a half billion dollars. The previous deal with the Indians brought our state 1,2 billion dollars under a contract from 2004 of the year for selling 16 such fighters.

MiG-29 and Su-30MKI Indian Air Force


About 70% of the military equipment that is in the arsenal of the army of this country is produced by the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation. Su-30MKI fighters and Tanks The T-90 was appreciated by the Indian military. Our state could receive this order earlier, but last year arrived with competitors from among the Swedes and Americans for the competition.

According to the data, it was the MiG-35 that initially looked better in terms of test indicators. All competitors had problems with the launch of engines, as the air base was located in a mountainous area, where the air is very thin. Even then, the tender could have been Russian if the buyers had not announced the second stage of the tender, in which they asked to finalize the engine start system.

Already after 4 of the month, information appeared in the media about the refusal of the Indian military from our MiG-35 due to the design flaws of the on-board radar and the discrepancy between the performance characteristics of the engine and the declared figures.

It is noticeable that in recent years, India is increasingly beginning to give preference to Western manufacturers. Rossvoaruzhenie did not receive a contract for the manufacture of military transport models for the needs of the Indian army. Instead of IL-76, the Indians wanted to purchase X-NUMX C-6J-130 Super Hercules products (USA) for 30 billion dollars. Our air products would be cheaper.

Despite the list of problems, India remains the largest exporter of the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation. World Trade Analysis Center weapons (TSAMTO) reported that in 2012, India exports military hardware and equipment worth 7,7 billion dollars from Russia, which will be more than 60% of all planned exports from Russia and 80% of imports to India.

The Indian state is among the world's largest buyers of weapons and equipment. This year it will spend 9,4 billion dollars for these purposes.
Particularly large military-technical projects are planned in the military aviation. So, this year our government will hand over to the Ministry of Defense of India 40 Mi-17V-5 turntables, 21 Su-30MKI fighters (assembly under license under the 2000 contract), 12 Su-30MKI fighters (under the 2007 contract), 9 fighters deck-based MiG-29K / KUB.

This year, projects to improve the MiG-29, BPA Tu-142, Mi-17 turntables and a number of other projects, including even the repair of diesel submarines, will be developed.

The most expensive financial transaction will be the transfer of the Indian Navy to the aircraft carrier Vikramaditya at the end of 2012. The cost of this community is estimated at 2,34 billion. The next volume contract in terms of price parameters will be launching under the Indian flag of two ships of the “frigate” type of the 11350.6 project, the cost of which is estimated to be more than 1 billion dollars. The third step in the military-technical community will be the lease of the nuclear submarine cruiser of the 2012 Nerpa project to Indian sailors in January 971. The price of this transaction will be slightly less than 1 billion dollars.

Based on materials newspapers "Vzglyad"
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  1. -8
    3 February 2012 09: 05
    The time will come and you will understand, avaricious pays twice. How much have you lost.
    1. +7
      3 February 2012 10: 27
      It’s not they who understand, it’s ours from defense-export that they must understand. And instead of the interests of the state, they have one loot rolling back in their brains ....
      1. dmitri077
        -8
        3 February 2012 12: 13
        "It is not they who will understand, ours from the defense export must understand. And instead of the interests of the state, they have one loot in their brains." - absolutely sure! today is the Day of Sorrow of local "patzriots"! this time France beautifully "made" the great and terrible Russian "defense" ... a great defeat! And again the Indians "roll" their alleged "friends" from Moscow ... the trend is already, it would be time to think laughing Russia will be in splendid isolation with its "not inferior, and in some ways superior" iron "sparrows" ... maybe this "defeat" will finally make the "helmsmen" of the country think about what is happening in the defense industry? with us, as always: until a roasted rooster bites in one place ... Yes
        1. +1
          3 February 2012 13: 57
          Thinking about what ??? On the privatization of the remaining defense industry and on the state’s withdrawal from this sector ??? Fuck you Anglo-Saxon friend!
        2. Chukotka resident
          -5
          3 February 2012 14: 56
          Quote: dmitri077
          absolutely sure! today is the Day of Sorrow of local "patzriots"! this time France beautifully "made" the great and terrible Russian "defense industry" ... a grand defeat!

          What is most interesting, yesterday Mistral it was PAABEDAY !!!
          Quote: dmitri077
          And again the Indians are "rolling" their alleged "friends" from Moscow ... the trend is already, it would be time to think about Russia in splendid isolation with its "not inferior, and in some ways superior" iron "sparrows" ... maybe Will this "rout" finally make the "helmsmen" of the country think about what is happening in the defense industry? with us, as always: until a roasted rooster bites in one place ...

          Soon, India will finish from Russia what is possible in the military-industrial complex, and it will be lost.
      2. Chukotka resident
        -7
        3 February 2012 14: 53
        Quote: evgenm55
        And they have instead of the interests of the state one loot retreating in the brain

        Poghosyan systematically wet the MiG, what other questions?
    2. Chukotka resident
      -5
      3 February 2012 14: 45
      Quote: tronin.maxim
      The time will come and you will understand, avaricious pays twice. How much have you lost.

      French weapons are very expensive, so your point is that they don’t.
      1. Sergh
        +9
        3 February 2012 15: 28
        Residents and dmitry, why are you blowing bubbles, the results of the MiG-35 tender were already known a year ago, no one was surprised at the bitter bazaar, especially with rotten boiled water in his pants. Expand your eyes wider, the French almost gave them these airplanes, along with the license! Well dance, children.
        1. Tatars
          0
          3 February 2012 23: 36
          In the Mig-35, the whole problem is in the engine. It is necessary to increase the resource, traction and so that there is supersonic speed without afterburner, but for now it does not pull on the 4 ++ generation, but I hope it will be finalized
          1. Chukotka resident
            -1
            3 February 2012 23: 43
            Quote: Tatars
            In the Mig-35, the whole problem is in the engine. It is necessary to increase the resource, traction and so that there is supersonic speed without afterburner, but for now it does not pull on the 4 ++ generation, but I hope it will be finalized

            I wrote, but did not publish - there is something else ... But on the topic - no.
  2. Igaryok
    0
    3 February 2012 09: 15
    They ran into a tender with an unfinished fighter, which is not even in service with our army, that’s the result. Almost the same is the case with Mi-28 helicopters.
    1. Chukotka resident
      -5
      3 February 2012 15: 01
      Quote: Igaryok
      They ran into a tender with an unfinished fighter, which is not even in service with our army, that’s the result. Almost the same is the case with Mi-28 helicopters.

      And the S-17, and S-130 and tanks, and missiles ... India from Russia needs only - submarines, missiles and the 5th fighter.
  3. denis29_82
    -8
    3 February 2012 09: 38
    India is a country of kickback) But the French have nowhere to go, only to roll back more generously than all.
    1. Igaryok
      -6
      3 February 2012 09: 53
      Quote: denis29_82
      India is a country of kickback) But the French have nowhere to go, only to roll back more generously than all.

      In fact, even here, our officials lost the French.
      1. Chukotka resident
        -4
        3 February 2012 15: 02
        Quote: Igaryok
        In fact, even here, our officials lost the French.

        Here the French officials won in Russia. And the Su-30 in India - for the rollback, a well-known topic.
  4. Desert Fox
    +2
    3 February 2012 09: 39
    Damn yourself saved! Yes, the frogmen from the desult, now they should pray on them, but put candles for life lol

    Just think, after the company lost the tender for the fulfillment of the Swiss order for 2011 fighters in November 22, French Minister of Defense Gerard Longuet said that the production of Rafale fighters would be discontinued if they could not find a buyer abroad. Thus, India saved this project from closure. Not surprising, that after this announcement, Dassault shares on the stock exchange in Paris jumped 20%.

    Saved, Mlyn, just raised laughing
    1. Nickname
      +6
      3 February 2012 09: 55
      Yes, we with the Mistrals abruptly Indians helped the paddlers
      1. 0
        3 February 2012 10: 25
        That's for sure ... Probably someone half-azure coast raped on the rollback ...
      2. Chukotka resident
        -5
        3 February 2012 15: 04
        Quote: Nickname
        Yes, we with the Mistrals abruptly Indians helped the paddlers

        And who after that then is a paddling pool?
    2. Chukotka resident
      -3
      3 February 2012 15: 03
      Quote: Desert Fox
      Unsurprisingly, after this announcement, Dassault shares on the Paris Stock Exchange jumped 20%.

      And this despite the fact that Rafali will fly not only to India ...
  5. +6
    3 February 2012 10: 40
    tantrums should not be rolled, india is the hostess that she wanted and bought it, it's just that in recent years we have often let Indians down with the service of our equipment. and in the course of the Rafale they buy “naked.” The declared price will increase by a lot. Indians like to bargain and often to the detriment of themselves, then overpay and pay extra, but the very fact of cheapness warms the soul. According to the declared performance characteristics, our plane is better, but damp, and the rollback apparently played a big role. officials from the Indian Defense Ministry are very fond of kickbacks.
    1. +5
      3 February 2012 14: 00
      I don’t need la-la about the service, I emphasize everything, ALL the claims brought against our defense industry were removed by the Indians after joint investigations. And the spread of rumors of poor service is just unfair competition!
      1. Chukotka resident
        +1
        3 February 2012 15: 10
        Quote: neri73-r
        Indians brought to our defense industry were removed after joint investigations.

        Yeah, and they chose Rafal.
        Quote: neri73-r
        And the spread of rumors of poor service is just unfair competition!

        Yeah, this is the first MiG-35 left.
    2. Chukotka resident
      -2
      3 February 2012 15: 08
      Quote: core
      you don’t have to throw hysteria, the mistress of India wanted something and bought it, it’s just that in recent years we often failed Indians with the maintenance of our equipment.

      That's right - well done !!! They threw them with tanks, shoved the Su-30 raw (the raw Belarusians are now sucking in), threw them with transporters, Defective Invars, defective RVV-AE, thermal imagers, Gorshkov scammers, 11356 scouts ...
      The MiG-35 was a project - give us money so we can build it ourselves and then sell it to you ... As with the MiG-29K, MTA, Brahmos ...
      Quote: core
      our aircraft according to the declared performance characteristics is better, but damp

      There is no MiG-35, as it is in service and is not manufactured. The rest is babble.
  6. Inzhengr
    -10
    3 February 2012 10: 48
    The third step in the matter of the military-technical community will be the leasing to the Indian sailors in January 2012 of the Nerpa Project 971 Nuclear Submarine Cruiser.

    How else the Kremlin has not been leased.
    1. Perch_xnumx
      +3
      3 February 2012 10: 53
      Hands off. The Kremlin will not give up. It will be repaired - very, very expensive - let the whole world be jealous.
    2. Chukotka resident
      -6
      3 February 2012 15: 12
      Quote: Engineering
      How else the Kremlin has not been leased.

      The boat, incidentally, is with the Russian crew of mercenaries.
  7. General
    +3
    3 February 2012 11: 52
    guys I don’t see anything ordinary here, what can we do about the Hindus themselves say they say you buy the French Mistrals yourself and so we decided to buy the French exterminators
    1. Chukotka resident
      -4
      3 February 2012 15: 14
      Quote: General
      guys I don’t see anything ordinary here, what can we do about the Hindus themselves say they say you buy the French Mistrals yourself and so we decided to buy the French exterminators

      It will be interesting what the Indians say regarding further purchases of ships ... Who?
  8. Vrangel
    +4
    3 February 2012 12: 29
    And let's remember how much dirt on the eve and during the tender, our Russian Ministry of Defense poured onto the MIG and MIG-35 design bureaus, so why be surprised?
    1. Chukotka resident
      -5
      3 February 2012 15: 14
      Quote: Vrangel
      And let's remember how much dirt on the eve and during the tender, our Russian Ministry of Defense poured onto the MIG and MIG-35 design bureaus, so why be surprised?

      More details?
  9. 755962
    +2
    3 February 2012 12: 39
    India, unlike other countries, feels comfortable in a heterogeneous environment - the more different aircraft models in the fleet, the better, and the MiG-35, unlike the Rafale and Eurofighter, is not mass-produced.
    The MiG-35 production is planned to be deployed in 2013-2014 at the Sokol plant in Nizhny Novgorod. And the master is also a master.
    1. Chukotka resident
      -1
      3 February 2012 15: 17
      Quote: 755962
      The MiG-35 production is planned to be deployed in 2013-2014 at the Sokol plant in Nizhny Novgorod. And the master is also a master.

      Maybe, but so far the data is foggy.
      1. 755962
        +1
        3 February 2012 15: 48
        Wait and see wink
        1. Chukotka resident
          -4
          3 February 2012 16: 16
          Quote: 755962
          Wait and see

          For those who just got down from the armored train ...
          - The only fighter of the Russian army was selected heavy, it is still known as PAK FA. fellow
    2. General
      +2
      3 February 2012 17: 13
      no, comrade in the army, it would be desirable if the equipment was from one country, otherwise it also harms the air forces and the Russian, American, and European ones, the more so the destroyers, unlike the western ones, are very different
  10. +3
    3 February 2012 12: 44
    India deferred arms suppliers. Not to mention that most of it will be produced in Indian factories.


    Although all the same, France showed itself not very especially with Iraq.
  11. dred
    -3
    3 February 2012 16: 01
    Let's see how it behaves in battle.
    1. jamert
      -3
      3 February 2012 16: 29
      Did you watch a little in Libya?
  12. Ty3uk
    +5
    3 February 2012 17: 05
    Quote: jamert
    Did you watch a little in Libya?

    And what in Libya did they (Rafaley) have real battles? smile
  13. Wolkin
    +1
    3 February 2012 17: 47
    BBC Russia replenished ...

    http://blog.kp.ru/users/2125404/post126262668/
    24 re-export Mig-29cmt, which Algeria refused to accept from Russia, as the aircraft were equipped with old units and assemblies restored at the enterprises of the defense industry complex in Nizhny Novgorod that were previously manufactured at Ukrainian plants.


    Before we buy something serious, we find out whether the company is serious, whether it has been in the market for a long time, whether there are guarantees, or if there have been any cases of “unfair play”. Stressing the memory, and whether there were any unpleasant situations at the last visit to them, We’ll also interview neighbors, acquaintances. It happens both beautifully and cheaply, and we are going to buy in another company.
    Indians also have analytical services. Or maybe in our “Baghdad” not “everything is calm”?
  14. FROST
    -1
    3 February 2012 17: 55
    Nothing terrible happened. Rafal and Typhoon were objectively the best in this tender, albeit expensive. We just need to think and improve our aircraft, to develop the aircraft industry.
    1. Ty3uk
      +1
      3 February 2012 18: 02
      Objectively the best for what indicators do you think?
      1. FROST
        -1
        3 February 2012 18: 31
        By avionics, flight performance, overhaul life. It was discussed here already. Use the search.
        1. Ty3uk
          +1
          3 February 2012 18: 43
          You're not right. The same F / A-18, dropped out of the tender, was not inferior to the winner in terms of avionics or overhaul resources. So what kind of objectivity are you talking about?
  15. Evgen2509
    0
    3 February 2012 17: 59
    For such money, it was possible not to buy "medium" fighters, but to increase the order for a more multifunctional "heavy" Su 30, so the point is most likely in new technologies. Although it is still a question how much the French will give, and whether it will be useful to the Indians in the light of the emergence of FGFA.
  16. Wolkin
    -1
    3 February 2012 18: 03
    http://kprf.ru/crisis/edros/96063.html
    August 26, 2011 was written about this. Only it was not indicated who won. But who lost was already clear.
  17. SenyaYa
    0
    4 February 2012 11: 52
    Here is one more proof that the RUSSIAN military-industrial complex produces obsolete uncompetitive stuff!
    1. Chukotka resident
      -1
      4 February 2012 12: 13
      SenyaYa,
      So it is in many, many ways.
  18. 0
    11 January 2015 13: 38
    Tricky Indians decided to blackmail with diversification of arms supplies. Let's see what happens.