Draft engineering munition Cable Bomb (USA)

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One of the tasks of engineering troops on the battlefield is the destruction of enemy barriers and fortifications. With the help of special tools, military engineers must destroy enemy structures, ensuring the passage of their troops. For the solution of similar problems during the Second World War, all the participating countries of the conflict offered different weapon of one kind or another. One of the most interesting proposals in this area led to the emergence of the American project Cable Bomb. With the help of weapons made under this project, it was planned to destroy bunkers, long-term emplacements and other enemy installations.

Large-caliber artillery was a standard means of destroying enemy fortifications during the Second World War. However, in some cases, the existing guns were not highly effective, which necessitated the need for other weapons. A more convenient means of destruction were aviation bombs, characterized by a relatively large mass of explosive charge, but their use was associated with certain difficulties. By mid-1944, there was a proposal for the joint use of modified aircraft bombs and land engineering equipment. The result of this was to be a successful combination of ease of use and high power weapons.



Draft engineering munition Cable Bomb (USA)
The use of "cable bomb"


In the middle of 1944, the US Army Corps of Engineers sent a request to the National Defense Research Committee (NDRC) to study the original proposal for the development of advanced weapons. It was necessary to conduct some research and determine the prospects for the use of jet bombs with jet engines for the destruction of protected structures. When obtaining positive results, it was possible to continue design work and complete the creation of a new weapon for the engineering troops.

The original proposal of military engineers involved the use of a number of components for various purposes. The main elements of the prospective complex in the proposed form were a modified aerial bomb and a cable, with the help of which it was planned to provide an original method of using weapons. For this reason, the new project received the symbol Cable Bomb - "Rope bomb". The project offered several versions of ammunition, but the name of these systems did not change as they developed.

Carriers of "cable bombs" were supposed to make the existing engineering Tanks. In particular, armored vehicles based on the M4 Sherman medium tank could claim this role. To use special anti-bunker weapons, the tank needed some minor alterations. So, a set of hooks should have been installed on the roof of the hull or tower, and new weapon control devices should have appeared on the gunner’s workplace. All this made it possible to preserve the existing full-time weapons, as well as to use engineering equipment of existing types.

It was proposed to transport bombs on a special wheeled cart with a launcher. She was supposed to have an armored hull without a roof with several guide cells for ammunition. According to the original proposal, the cart was supposed to hold six new type bombs. The cart had to move with the help of two own wheels and a rigid hitch device of great length. On the battlefield, it should be towed by an engineering tank.

The task of destroying the enemy bunker was assigned directly to the Cable Bomb product. It was supposed to be a large and heavy ammunition with a relatively powerful warhead, equipped with its own jet engine. It was proposed to attach the cable to the bomb case, which is necessary for putting it on the correct trajectory and aiming at the target. At the free end of the cable was placed koush, intended for installation on the hooks of the carrier tank. Calculations have shown that the new weapon can be equipped with a cable with a length of 50 feet (15,4 m).

The proposed principle of using the "cable bomb" was as follows. On the battlefield had to go engineering tank with a trolley on a rigid coupling. Having received the combat task of destroying a specific enemy object, the tank crew had to reach the “combat course” and approach the target at a distance of 15 m. The attacked object was to be on the line continuing the longitudinal axis of the tank and cart system. After completing such a preliminary guidance of weapons, tankers could open fire.


M8 rocket is a possible element of the Cable Bomb complex


At the command of the gunner, the electrical system was supposed to ignite a solid-fuel bomb engine. Due to the engine thrust, the bomb had to take off and go to the intended target. At the same time, the cable fixed on the tank turret did not allow the ammunition to go up strictly. Pulling the cable, the bomb began to move in a circle. Having flown in an arc with a radius of about 15 m, the ammunition was supposed to hit the roof of the attacked structure. When using existing air bombs as the basis for Cable Bomb, it was theoretically possible to guarantee the destruction of most of the fortifications with two or three “shots”.

The Cordbomb project proposed the use of a transport cart with a launcher for six ammunition. On the battlefield, an engineering tank could be confronted with different objectives, which is why there was a proposal to use two types of ammunition. Depending on the main features of the attacked bunker, military engineers had to use a bomb with a high-explosive or cumulative warhead. The first type of ammunition was proposed as a multipurpose means of destruction, and the cumulative Cable Bomb was intended to destroy structures with a high level of protection.

The cumulative bomber bomb was developed from scratch. The project proposed the assembly of a product with a distinctive appearance. The bomb was to receive a main cylindrical body with a diameter of 1 foot (305 mm) and a length of 4 foot (1,22 m). A cumulative explosive charge of 375 pounds (about 170 kg) was placed inside such a body. By the tail end of the main body was planned to mount the engine and means of stabilization. A cylindrical body with a diameter of about 0,5 feet and a length of less than 2 feet should have an 25-pound charge (11,34 kg) of solid fuel. On top and bottom of the engine block were attached square vertical planes measuring 2X2 feet (610X610 mm). It is noteworthy that the bomb did not have horizontal planes: thanks to the use of a cable, it only needed stabilization along the course. On the bottom surface of the main body, along the longitudinal axis of the product, there were two cable anchorage points. To keep the bomb in an optimal position, it was proposed to use a cable of the required length, divided into two parts near the body.

The high-explosive “cable bomb” was to be manufactured using serial units of existing aviation weapons. As a warhead rocket should use the body with a charge borrowed from the serial high-explosive fragmentation bomb caliber 250 pounds. In its original form, such a bomb weighed 112 kg, had a length of 1,38 m and a diameter of 261 mm. A charge of TNT or ammotol with a mass of 30,3 kg was used. In the manufacture of ammunition for the engineering troops, the aerial bomb should have been deprived of the standard tail stabilizer, instead of which it was proposed to mount new devices, including the engine.

To send a high-explosive bomb to the target was a solid-fuel engine of the existing type. For reasons of economy, the authors of the Cable Bomb project decided to use the engine from the T22 unmanaged rocket, which was a further development of the M8 serial product. The T22 rocket had a total length of 84 cm with a maximum diameter of 4,5 inch (114 mm). Missile mass - 17 kg, maximum flight speed - 960 km / h. The range was determined at the level of 3-3,2 km. The T22 rocket engine used as part of the “cable bomb” was to receive a new stabilizer and be mounted on the tail section of the serial bomb. Due to the significant differences in the mass of a new type of ammunition had to lose the aircraft rocket in the characteristics of speed and range, but with the proposed method of application it did not matter.


Cumulative Ammunition Design


When entering the battlefield, an engineering tank based on the serial "Sherman" had to tow a cart with six "rope bombs" of two types. It was assumed that the typical ammunition of the new complex will consist of three high-explosive fragmentation and the same number of cumulative bombs. This made it possible to obtain acceptable flexibility in the use of weapons in a real battle, where military engineers could face a variety of threats and goals.

The development of a promising project Cable Bomb took some time. Apparently, the design work was completed at the beginning of 1945. For testing, several prototypes of weapons were manufactured, as well as an appropriate stand. Whether the necessary revision took place was the serial tanks and whether the launcher carts were built - it is not known. At the same time, the general features of the project made it possible to carry out the first tests without the involvement of equipment, only with the help of simulating its stands.

The Allegany Ballistics Laboratory research complex (West Virginia) became a platform for testing new weapons. For some time, experts of the Ballistic Laboratory and the Army Corps of Engineers conducted joint tests, during which the main ideas of the original project were tested and its prospects were determined. According to the available data, only high-explosive “tether bombs” made of existing aircraft munitions were used during the tests. According to the results of their verification, it was determined that the unusual appearance of anti-bunker weapons, in general, justifies itself and can be applied in practice.

Despite the use of non-standard ideas, the proposed "cable bomb" looked interesting and promising. The use of a cable limiting the range of the munition to several meters allowed the existing solid-fuel engine of relatively low power to be used, but at the same time equip the bomb with a heavy warhead of high power. All of this really allowed an engineering tank — at least in theory — to effectively destroy the enemy’s bunkers and weapon emplacements. The only noticeable problem of an unusual project was the necessity of approaching the target for a short distance, but in some cases all the existing threats were completely leveled out by the armor of an engineering tank.

The weapons of the Cable Bomb project at the beginning of 1945, passed the first tests and confirmed their capabilities. Despite this, all work on the original project was discontinued. The army command considered that in the current situation of the military industry and research organizations should be engaged in other projects. In particular, the development of new anti-mine weapons, intended for installation on serial armored vehicles, became a priority at that time. The need to develop other projects and limited resources led to the abandonment of the "rope bombs". The project, which once seemed promising, did not lead to the expected results, and the new weapon did not reach operation in the army.

As far as we know, the Cable Bomb project was the first and last attempt by the US military industry to create weapons for the destruction of bunkers using "tethered" ammunition. In the future, the development of weapons of this purpose went different ways and no longer needed such controls and guidance on the target. However, an unusual project is of great interest with technical and historical points of view.


Based on:
http://designation-systems.net/
http://wwiiequipment.com/
Hunnicutt RT Sherman. A History of the American Medium Tank, Navato, CA. Presidio Press, 1971
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  1. +3
    11 January 2017 08: 04
    In addition to the indicated problem (the need for an approach to the target at 15 m), you can specify another one related to the same distance. In the explosion of its own, and not the smallest, bomb fifteen meters away, its carrier tank on a rope will also suffer.
    1. +2
      11 January 2017 08: 21
      And how did they solve the problems with the roughness of the earth)
      ran black and straightened the cart? Or was there a tricky suspension with a stabilizer?)
      1. 0
        11 January 2017 08: 53
        Well: it turns out that the Americans at one time also tried to master this niche with Trailer Carts!
        I have it solved at a new level, where radio-controlled (and not only) missiles start from Trailer, and therefore there is no need for a tank (a robotic wedge!) To come into contact with the enemy - only optical communication or coordinates. That is, in the future, tanks will be re-qualified as miniature STARTERs and Guides (in addition to UAVs and Jamshuts) missiles from cheap Container Trailers! Monstrous Armats and other budget-eaters are not needed: thousands of Trailers are needed with the possibility of towing them including and manually, not forgetting horse drawn traction - in Syria, one of the logistical problems is the lack of fuel! And in any other war, this will also be a problem.
        At the expense of the stability of the Trailer-Cart - I solved this problem for my devices (within reasonable limits of surface irregularities).
        1. +1
          11 January 2017 09: 11
          Quote: Aviagr
          Well: it turns out that the Americans at one time also tried to master this niche with Trailer Carts!

          Quote: Aviagr
          Monstrous Armats and other budget-eaters are not needed: thousands of Trailers are needed with the possibility of towing them including and by hand, not forgetting horse traction

          - all
          - "save yourself, who can"
          - Aviagr sat on his beloved trolley Thread belay
          1. 0
            11 January 2017 09: 23
            Did someone already liberate Syria? Even the praised Leo shit *
            1. +1
              11 January 2017 11: 11
              Is someone going to release her?
        2. +1
          11 January 2017 10: 13
          Just think! Yes, even at the age of 12, after reading about the Zasyadko and Konstantinov missiles, I was solving the problem of controlling such missiles! It upset me very much that the missiles were unguided! Here's what a talented offer I had (!): 1. a rope was attached to the rocket launcher (to the rocket), and the rest of the rope on the reel was secretly dragged by the "spotter" closer to the target. Having crept closer to the target, the "spotter" shot at the target from a powerful crossbow with an arrow tied with a cord ... the cord was pulled ... the rocket was launched and .... such an abdemaht must happen! So, folks ... decide who has the coolest invention! Trailer cart ali "guided missile system"!? tongue bully
          1. 0
            11 January 2017 10: 29
            Immediately give up: in 12 years, I developed only sleeveless machines. drinks
            After some time, they transformed into sleeveless UAV guns - because in the small caliber too many shortcomings arise. But 30 ... 40-mm gun for UAVs with shellless shells (yes with controlled detonation) will be the very thing ...
            And also his own machine gun with conventional cartridges, which has now "grown" to a double-barreled recoilless machine gun 7,62TT with a unique belt feed. And to Trailers missiles - their own, with their PuVRD.
            Yes, actually now there is nothing sensible in the troops ..
            1. +2
              11 January 2017 10: 39
              Quote: Aviagr
              Yes, actually now there is nothing sensible in the troops ..

              Oh how right you are! good There used to be Times-a-ah! fellow And now? request (pah!) Moments! No.
        3. 0
          11 January 2017 11: 08
          Acumen Test:
          Why did Soviet gunsmiths switch from towing a 120-mm mortar behind a machine to transporting it in the back?
          Moreover, its relief for this almost eliminated the normal towing (wheel life of only 500 km)
          1. 0
            11 January 2017 11: 54
            Quote: Spade
            wheel life of only 500 km

            Uh ... because they don’t know how to make wheels / bearings ?! laughing
            Lopatov, I have been telling everyone for a long time and I was convinced myself that I have no equal: I started my Trailer (and Hogs) with the development of the wheel and bearing! The latter, even for the lightest Trailer with g / n 120kg (on 4 wheels - according to 30kg), has an outer diameter of the order of 150mm - that is, its load capacity once in 100 exceeds the needs - this is the resource. Rolling bodies - spherical rollers = large area - again a resource. Although for a plastic Trailer and Hog - as a consumable - a very large resource is not required. But there still raisin there is...
            But both the wheel and the bearing are STRONGLY different from everything that is now - I have already been tortured to offer joint patenting to everyone: the level of current engineers at most plants is culinary college. Therefore, we have and in favor alone goat jumpers yes rubber Nona ... wassat
            1. +1
              11 January 2017 12: 08
              Quote: Aviagr
              Lopatov, I’ve been telling everyone for a long time and I’ve been convinced myself that I have no equal

              - exactly
              - Gridasov resting ...
              1. 0
                11 January 2017 12: 28
                From the lips of an "economist-politician" it looks like praise.
                Yes, I don’t even need recognition of mediocrity and sofa bedsores - reality has already put everything in its place .. hi
                1. +1
                  11 January 2017 12: 53
                  Quote: Aviagr
                  I don’t need recognition of mediocrity and sofa bedsores

                  - then there are a lot of "bedsores", I'm not alone - for sure wink

                  Quote: Aviagr
                  reality has already put everything in its place

                  - What, Armata was canceled, replacing a swarm of Hogs and Wagons ??! I missed something in this life, apparently ...
                  - your idea reminded me of this for some reason (this is from the time of the First World ... idea):


                  - and so - yes entertain the people further ... I personally exactly request
                  1. 0
                    11 January 2017 13: 16
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    for some reason your idea reminded me

                    Well then you have to start with the EGG SHELL! These "inventions" are billions of years old!
                    I "just" modified the design for convenient use for various types of application and selected the technology for their production in a mass circulation of hundreds of thousands of copies at a minimal cost - but this is VERY difficult to do, take the word of a specialist ... soldier
                    Quote: Cat Man Null
                    what, Armata was canceled, replacing a swarm of Hogs and Wagons?

                    So far, these "armata" in the form of Abrams, Leo and our T-XX turn into stationary "carts" and trailers for export to metal depots - but understanding of this process in caps for caps has not yet come that the tank is just expensive carrier и starter only 40 shells!
                    So what's the difference - how do I translate and launch (with the same damaging effect) these 40-80 shells?
                    FORMALIZATION of hostilities or as an algorithm for solving problems in mathematics: you just need to abstract from emotions and dogmas, and it turns out that there are OTHER, cheaper solutions THE SAME MOST problem!
                    And again cheaper - so with the same investment in the "war" I will complete it faster - that's the whole conclusion. soldier
                    1. +1
                      11 January 2017 13: 29
                      Quote: Aviagr
                      a tank is just an expensive carrier and launcher of just 40 shells!

                      - at the same time - highly maneuverable, well protected, and very intelligent "launcher"

                      Quote: Aviagr
                      So what's the difference - how do I translate and launch (with the same damaging effect) these 40-80 shells?

                      - about "the same damaging effect" you, IMHO, greatly exaggerated
                      - I repeat - search for targets, priority selection of targets, choice of ammunition, guidance ... how is everything organized in the tank, I know
                      - and this is how your "horse hog with a trailer ", you have not yet clearly explained
                      - you may be able to get to the battlefield (although this is already doubtful ... who, for example, will provide air defense to your herd of Borovs? Are they really themselves?) ... but this is not even a quarter of the case! It is there that all the "interesting" begins ...

                      Hence the doubts about the efficiency of your "revolutionary" scheme.

                      PS: mind you about "unmanned swarms" - do not remember ... the earth is not air, there are more obstacles on it, and the degrees of freedom are less. So the ground swarm ... just "won't take off" request
                      1. 0
                        11 January 2017 13: 35
                        Quote: Cat Man Null
                        mind about "unmanned swarms" - do not remember ... the earth is not air,

                        Air is needed to launch the UAV-gunner, if you want to have a destruction range OVER your vaunted tank - 7..10km.
                        Good security is leveled by a LESS NUMBER of tanks, and even bоthe enemy’s maximum ammunition consumption for the destruction of ALL Trailers distributed over a large area in the folds of the terrain and forests, from where the tank cannot accurately shoot in principle, even with guided ammunition - because only HE manages them - I removed this restriction.
                        Well and further on the texts of articles about Mosquito weapons ..
                        A tank is useless trash. We need miniature wedges for towing the Skolopendra and other mosquito weapons, such as Uranus - but others. There are ideas.
                      2. 0
                        11 January 2017 14: 43
                        - what for
                        - you
                        - So
                        - you write
                        -?
                        - this
                        - same
                        - mockery
                        - above
                        - interlocutor
                        -!
            2. 0
              11 January 2017 12: 37
              Quote: Aviagr
              Uh ... because they don’t know how to make wheels / bearings ?!

              No, because it was eased to the limit so that they could be driven into the GAZ-66 body.

              But this is all, of course, interesting, but the answer to the question will be?
              I repeat if you forgot
              Quote: Spade
              Why did Soviet gunsmiths switch from towing a 120-mm mortar behind a machine to transporting it in the back?
              1. 0
                11 January 2017 12: 54
                There may be several of them: from sticking all the dirt to breaking the axial connecting joints from dynamic loads ..
                Quote: Spade
                No, because it was eased to the limit so that they could be driven into the GAZ-66 body.

                So now they are getting out of the situation by lowering the mortar on the hydraulic cylinders at the back - I also like this option more, so any problem can have several solutions.
                1. 0
                  11 January 2017 13: 15
                  Quote: Aviagr
                  There may be several of them: from sticking all the dirt to breaking the axial connecting joints from dynamic loads ..

                  Initially a 1300 mm wide wheel drive weighed 225 kg... After "correcting the mistakes", the B-20 wheel travel appeared with a width of 1620 mm reduced by 5 cm. Ground clearance and a weight of 275 kg.
                  Wheel travel weight 2L81 from the 2S12 "Sani" complex, total 115 kg with reduced width. But the price of this is to reduce the resource to 500 km.

                  And again you did not answer my question on quick wits.


                  Quote: Spade
                  Why did Soviet gunsmiths switch from towing a 120-mm mortar behind a machine to transporting it in the back?

                  I'll try to tell you. The permissible maximum speed of the 2C12 complex with a mortar in the back of the highway 90km / h, with a mortar in the towbar 60 km / h. The permitted towing speed of the mortar on the tow bar on the road is 20 km / h ...

                  Starting to reach?
                  1. 0
                    11 January 2017 13: 30
                    Quote: Spade
                    And again you did not answer my question on quick wits.

                    Because you (with Non constructors) are struggling with the CONSEQUENCES, and I - with REASONSwhich these consequences cause: well, I don’t need your wheel drive and bodywork if the car doesn’t pass on off-road (good) traffic, and it’s only TOTAL - Mine launcher, without which it is a dumb tube-pipe, and they are without she - useless trash!
                    I - eliminate these contradictionstransporting the LAUNCHED rockets right away, although they also need a machine, but their size and weight are minuscule 5-7kg along with the battery (in the Trailer 4-6 Skolopendr or existing ATGM systems will already be installed on it)!
                    And my trailers will be able to be towed along the 90km / h highway, and off-road - including manually; and in bodywork - removing the wheels - to reduce the size - I provide ALL (but not everything can be solved cheaply) ..
                    Quote: Spade
                    Starting to reach?

                    So I see - it doesn’t reach ... hi
                    1. 0
                      11 January 2017 13: 53
                      Quote: Aviagr
                      Because you (with Non constructors)

                      And from what side is "Nona" here?
                      Quote: Aviagr
                      I - eliminate these contradictions, transporting LAUNCHED missiles right away, although they also need a machine, but their size and weight are minuscule 5-7 kg with the battery (in the Trailer 4-6 Skolopendr or existing ATGMs will already be installed on it)!

                      After all, all this economy has a weight, doesn't it? This means that you have by no means eliminated the "contradiction". And your trailer will have the same off-road restrictions. The same 20-30 km / h If you try to increase this speed, you will lose the ability to manually tow due to a sharp increase in weight. This is physics, it cannot be canceled ...
                      1. 0
                        11 January 2017 14: 16
                        Quote: Spade
                        And from what side is "Nona" here?

                        Because she is "rubber" ... From which side do we need mortar? We need enemy weapon - fast and cheap. And here we begin iterate over optionswhere tanks, mortars and more trash in the future there is no place left! laughing
                        Quote: Spade
                        And your trailer will have the same off-road restrictions.

                        I do not have restrictions: I have already given a DIVERSITY of the types of transportation of my Trailers, more precisely, they will be NOT WORSE existing means - and what then perotage puddles ?!
                        Carry them as you see fit, DEPENDING on the situation, incl. and through the air - landing using flexible wings.
                        You want visibility? -Come on! You loaded Sani / Nona into Bychok / Barguzin, but when you left the normal (conditionally) road, you got stuck. You start to drag Sani / Nona in parts to positions, and then the ammunition - if by this moment you are not destroyed along with the disassembled Nona / Sanya ..
                        The same situation with the Trailers: unloaded from the Goby, put on wheels (just inserted on the latch - one movement) - and on the road (if towed behind the car - immediately on the road)! As long as part of the calculation returns to drag other trailers (as in your case, Nona’s details and ammunition), 1-2 people can already start shelling /protection positions from Scolopendra.
                        I won. You are heroicisky perishedgiving the family and homeland to reproach the enemy ...
  2. +2
    11 January 2017 08: 58
    And how did they solve the problems with the roughness of the earth)

    The cable tension levels the initial deviation of the projectile.
    1. +1
      11 January 2017 09: 21
      No, the main thing is that the truck does not tip over, then the missile bomb will come out horizontally and spin / roll on the tank - it will receive nunchakoy on the tower .. wassat
    2. +1
      11 January 2017 10: 27
      Quote: BORMAN82
      The cable tension levels the initial deviation of the projectile.


      This is if the "pitch". And if the roll to the right and left?
      The cart tilted and that’s all - the missiles are flying where it’s unknown.
      1. +1
        11 January 2017 11: 10
        Apparently they considered the deviation of the ammunition in the direction insignificant.
      2. +2
        11 January 2017 11: 56
        For this, there must be two tanks, and two cables from each, of equal length, are attached to one bomb. Tanks must approach the target with a "slingshot", and the cart is strictly in the middle, so that the target is in line with the target wink
        1. 0
          11 January 2017 12: 38
          Theoretically, a circuit with two cables and one tank should work.
          1. 0
            11 January 2017 14: 22
            Theoretically, the technology of the pyramid builders should work: when a tanker drills a dugout in concrete hole, drives a stick into it and pours it with water until the concrete is cracked - and then pisses it on the inside with boiling water ... lol
            1. +1
              11 January 2017 15: 09
              To learn physics at school ... genius, damn it.
  3. 0
    11 January 2017 14: 48
    Quote: Bass Navigator
    - what for
    - you
    - So
    - you write
    -?
    - this
    - same
    - mockery
    - above
    - interlocutor
    -!

    - habit
    - while no one complained
    - do not like - do not eat (s)
  4. +1
    11 January 2017 15: 08
    Quote: Aviagr
    You want visibility? -Come on! You loaded Sani / Nona into Bychok / Barguzin, but when you left the normal (conditionally) road, you got stuck. You start to drag Sani / Nona in parts to positions, and then the ammunition - if by this moment you are not destroyed along with the disassembled Nona / Sanya ..

    The solution to this problem is simple to obscene
    Quote: Aviagr
    I won. You - "heroichiski" perished, having given your family and homeland to the enemy to desecrate ...

    I won. You and your trailers were stuffed with shrapnel in the process of removing the trailer from the car, installing wheels on it and long, tedious and slow rolling it manually on the road 8)))
    1. 0
      11 January 2017 15: 24
      For the price of this scrap metal, I can stamp about 5000 Trailers with Skolopendra and about 500 Borovs or UAVs - and I don’t even need to be distracted from drinking coffee: a truncated AI will do everything for me - it will recognize the enemy, shoot several Skolopendras and aim them at your pile gland. Oh yes, I can also keep the front several TENS of kilometers - that your tarantay will not be able in principle ...
      In general, we should not argue 1: 1, but EQUALITY ON PRICES!
      You are corpse, like the Papuans and the Indians, although it may be brave (but infinitely stupid) corpse..
      1. 0
        11 January 2017 17: 16
        Quote: Aviagr
        I don’t even need to be distracted from drinking coffee: truncated AI will do everything for me - recognizes the enemy, shoots several Scolopendras and directs them to your pile of iron

        - delirious ... belay

        Aviagr, no offense, only one question - are you, in general, in the mind?

        I do not understand request
        1. 0
          11 January 2017 17: 38
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          I do not understand

          And the "economists" do not need to strain their brains - we do it for you. As soon as the "managers" begin to pretend that they think, cataclysms, missile crashes, crises and sanctions immediately occur. The further you are from technology, the more reliable and productive it is ... bully
          1. 0
            11 January 2017 17: 48
            Quote: Aviagr
            And the "economists" do not need to strain their brains - we do it for you. As soon as the "managers" begin to pretend that they think, cataclysms, missile crashes, crises and sanctions immediately occur. The further you are from technology, the more reliable and productive it is ...

            - Uncle, I still have a higher technical education (MISiS, FizKhim, managed to finish before the catastrophe, the diploma, although not red, but quite fine)
            - in the Soviet Army - served (and just tanks, here you are out of luck)
            - I work (when I work) as a programmer ... of large such systems. While nothing through my fault has not fallen.

            So you're there ... more careful with grades laughing

            And turn to a psychologist, you obviously have something to eat already ... when you move out completely - it will be too late to drink Borjomi sad
            1. 0
              11 January 2017 18: 33
              Quote: Cat Man Null
              and just tanks

              Like there in the song: ... what a tanker you are!
              Now even in anti-personnel mines there are so many sensors and algorithms that you can choose: only undermine adults (one or several), running (or vice versa - stalking) from 22-00 to 6-00 ... and so on - once a programmer, then a decision tree and weighted coefficients. I must know the events - and when these events occur with the necessary probability - and there will be a BABAH!
              This is what I call: truncated AI. In Borovy, this algorithm will be more complicated, but how everyone laughed at the 300-gram American drones - and they showed that they can hide good "brains" in 50 grams - I think so much will remain from the glider, motor and battery ...
              Drink your Borjomi further - although it obviously does not help from liquefying the remains of the "substance for a diploma" ...
              1. 0
                11 January 2017 18: 46
                Quote: Aviagr
                ........................

                - okay ... how is it? "Satisfied with hysteria" (c) laughing
                - go ahead, have fun on the people ... Hog with the Cart (the pedal horse is remembered for some reason .... association, probably what )
                1. 0
                  11 January 2017 18: 56
                  Quote: Cat Man Null
                  I remember for some reason

                  yes, you see, the hatch was "cuddled" on the tarantayka - we got one too, though on the armored personnel carrier - a lot of things then fancied during the service (and maybe after ...) wassat
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                    11 January 2017 19: 13
                    - well, what’s there on the BZTR for the hatches ... so, tin laughing
                    - but the hog, with artificial intelligence, also truncated, harnessed to a cart - that’s yes ... that’s where the true flight of thought is! good
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                      11 January 2017 19: 18
                      Quote: Cat Man Null
                      what's on the BZTR for the hatches ... so, tin

                      16kg and even in the dynamics of the fall ... although it is unlikely to compare with the tank, it’s for sure - judging by the effect .. laughing
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                        11 January 2017 19: 23
                        Quote: Aviagr
                        16kg and even in the dynamics of the fall ...

                        - Have you tried to put on a talking hat? No campaign, but in vain ....
                        - now swarms of hogs with intellect and carts seem to seem.
                        - my condolences
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    11 January 2017 19: 28
    Cat Man Null,
    Have you tried to wear a talking hat?

    Wow! Do you have one ?! If she also knows how to move her ears, then you won the briefing! wassat
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      11 January 2017 19: 44
      - available on sale
      - I do not, as unnecessary
      - buy, you’ll teach her how to move her ears, she’s smart, she’s a good student laughing

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