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Answers on questions. About machine gun belts as part of equipment

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I continue to answer the questions of our reader Alexander. The second question was a photo of the times of the Great Patriotic War and a question of this content:


Answers on questions. About machine gun belts as part of equipment


“And for what purpose were they worn? Blatant chic? Or to help machine gunners? Like a cartridge belt, they seem to be not very, there you will be tired of pulling out the cartridge, especially if the tape is wetted (which is inevitable with such carrying) and dried up. Or froze. She and the machine gun will go crazy. Some kind of garbage is obtained. "

Versions have been considered a lot. And, having pushed away from the fact that the sailors were girded with machine-gun belts mainly on the photo, the following happened.

A certain tradition originates from the time of the First World War. And with fleet.

When it turned out that the plane and the airship is not a circus attraction, but an aircraft capable of throwing not only leaflets from the air, but also quite tangible bombs or tanks with a combustible mixture, of course, the belligerent countries began to pay attention to air defense. More precisely, to adapt the weapons systems at their disposal to the firing at air targets.

The main machine gun at the time in the Russian army was the "Maxim". He registered on the ships.

Where were installed machine guns to deal with airplanes?

Naturally, where this airplane could be seen. That is, as high as possible, at the posts of observers, signalers and range-finders. In the "nests" on the masts, on the battle mars platforms and similar places. This is closer to the Second World War, the ships acquired PUAZO, and anti-aircraft guns could be placed anywhere. But at the beginning of the 20 century, machine guns and guns were installed as close as possible to the observers, that is, to those who could carry out target designation.


Photos of the First World is very small, but here is a photo of an anti-aircraft gunner from the "October Revolution". So, in the background - "Marat". You can estimate the height at which the zenith calculation is located.





Accordingly, there was a problem with the filing of cartridges. Yes, you can (and should) store a certain ammunition at the ZU post. But the ship is somewhat less suitable for this. Here and pitching, which increases as it rises over the deck, and aggressive environment in the form of moist sea air saturated with salt.

But in general, it was simply not planned to create air defense posts, but I had to.

On the Mars-platform climbed on brackets-ladders. It is possible that the maritime tradition of girding arose from this need - to deliver ammunition to the machine gun in pitching conditions. Sailors, especially Russians, were from time immemorial invented much. In terms of facilitating your life. That's why they figured out by climbing the ladder and dragging a box of tape on themselves. Or you need to keep the box in your teeth, or come to terms with the prospect of downhill on the deck. So they came up with a girdle.

I do not know how you, dear readers, I "went." Everything is very logical. Plus, the irrepressible thrust of the sailors to the “Pontes”. As a sign of a certain difference, they say, I do not sit out in the hold, but I do business in battle. Which, by the way, is also true.

We now turn to the events about which the question was actually asked.

Our fleet in the Great Patriotic War, let's say frankly, fought in such a way that it could not afford to send sailors to the marines. Some ships remained with a minimum crew in the ports, and the personnel left to fight on land.

And here the sailors reappear, re-belted by machine-gun belts.







Here I chose two from a variety of versions.

Version one. Lack of equipment, especially in the first time.

I agree with those who expressed the opinion that ribbons on sailors are peculiar cartridge belts. Indeed, a rifle in a naval crew is not the most important thing. They all have something to do besides carrying guard duty. And in the battle on the ship shooting weapon without any need. It's time for the boarding.

In general, according to the regulations, the sailor had to have two two-section cartridge pouches of the 1937 sample in the equipment. For 7,62-mm rifles of the 1891 / 30 sample. For the Red Navy armed with the SVT-40 self-loading rifle, instead of the right cartridge bag obr. 1937 was issued a bag for two stores or a unified cartridge bag.

The issue of availability is cleared, for in photographs these items are practically not found.

Staff wearable ammunition of the time - 120 cartridges. In the case of sailors, the standard equipment corresponded to the infantry, differing only in the black color of the leather elements. These are pouches for "Mosinka", SVT, spare cartridge bags, chest cartridge holders, belt cartridge belts. In the initial period of the war there were canvas ersatzes instead of regular leather ones. It is more convenient to get the cartridges from there, loading the weapon, given that the cartridges in the clips are made faster.

In addition, cartridges are less susceptible to contamination.




But for some reason, the ground infantry has no ribbons on the fighters ...

Apparently, there is a so-called “naval chic” here. On the one hand, the obvious lack of equipment, on the other hand, quickly recalled the tradition of the First World War and the Civil War.

Plus, it is worth remembering that the naval form of that time differed from the land one by a smaller number of pockets. So, all that remained according to the principle “I carry everything with myself” is to wrap myself up with a machine-gun belt. Here and 250 ammunition with him, and (importantly) the weight is evenly distributed throughout the body.


By the way, the topic is not new ... Many have practiced this method.

Version two.

The second version came from photos that were taken at the time when the crisis was over. But still ribbons on the sailors attended. Moreover, as in this photo, which was sent by Alexander. The tapes on the fighters for whom these cartridges are exactly the same as the BC will not come in handy, because there is already a PCA.



Does it make sense, except for "fleet chic"?

It turned out there.

Marines - a special kind of troops. Yes, the Marines were used purely in defensive battles such as the Nevsky Piglet or the defense of Sevastopol. However, the series of landing operations went further, especially on the Black Sea. Landings from ships.

Standard BC to "Maxim" of that time was 2500 cartridges, that is, 10 tapes. Each weighing about 6 kg. Why do I take "Maxim"? Because SG-43 went much later, but the DP still was a light machine gun of pure infantry support, and was inferior to the “Maxim” both in the rate of fire and in the range. So all the same "Maxim" ...

Go ahead. The landing. From ships, from boats, from motobots ... Without a difference. The essence is the same: under enemy fire, you often need to siganut from the board into the water, get to the shore, find shelter there from bullets and shrapnel, and proceed to the task.

This is still a pleasure ...

But we are talking about delivery issues. Here for the machine gunner "paradise" is the opposite. Not only do we need to deliver the body of the machine gun and the machine to the shore, as well as the BC.

In the land forces everything is easier. According to the 12 chapter “Easel machine gun service” of the manual for an infantry fighter from the VIKA VCKA Combat Training Directorate (1938), the calculation for the Maxim machine gun consisted of as many 4 people aside from the long-range observer and the squad leader who worked for all three branches of machine gun platoon.

1. Gunner. Firing a machine gun and doing all the work associated with the use of a machine gun in battle.

2. Assistant gunner. Helps the gunner and is responsible for ensuring that with a machine gun there is a sufficient number of cartridges and everything that is necessary for firing.

3. A sub-carrier of cartridges, as instructed by the chief of the machine gun or the gunner, brings cartridges, water, lubricant and everything necessary for the combat work of the machine gun.

4. Ezdova is in charge of a machine gun wagon (tachanka), transports machine guns, organizes equipment of ribbons with cartridges and their toes to the machine gun.

In the marines, the presence of a rider with a cart is not supposed to be. Well, two podnoschika. Each of which, apart from the rifle and everything else, was supposed to transport the 5 boxes with ribbons. And in the case of injury or death until the moment you reach the land, calm these cartridges to drown.

Yes, the marines might have been “pontorezi”, but the fools obviously did not live there for a long time. And the output was as simple as five kopecks. Once again the good old tape wrapping.

For a podnoschika jump into the water, having in each hand a box with a ribbon - perhaps, but ... m, multiplied by g, has not been canceled, and even in wet and humid conditions. Could a box and break out of hand. Whatever the box is sealed (it wasn’t, it’s clarified), bathing is not good for it. Plus a stray bullet or a fragment, and here you are - 20% BK to the machine gun at the bottom is not known where.

Distributing tapes to other fighters simply increased the chance that these tapes would reach the coast on these same fighters.


Plus, in the case of wet, dried and warped canvas tape, cartridges could be leveled with the help of such a device anywhere, on any flat surface.


By the way, our opponents also practiced this method.

So it turns out that, on the one hand, "naval chic" and, on the other hand, the maritime tradition is very useful even from the point of view of combat use.

And the Marines for their business can not forgive such a thing, is not it?
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  1. Amurets
    Amurets 15 November 2016 06: 46
    +32
    By distributing the ribbons to other fighters, this simply increased the chance that these ribbons would reach the shore on these same fighters.
    My father said the same thing. He conducted the war at the communications center of the headquarters of the Pacific Fleet, and in 1945, a unit was formed from the personnel of the communications center, which was part of the airborne unit for landing in Hokkaido. The landing was canceled, but the photo of that unit remained, unfortunately I can not find it. On it, part of the sailors was also wrapped with machine-gun belts. Father said that this is an additional supply of machine gun ammunition, in addition to those that were in the boxes. There were simply not enough boxes for extra tapes. But it was at the Pacific Fleet in August 1945. I won’t say about other places, I don’t know.
  2. svp67
    svp67 15 November 2016 08: 28
    +20
    Here is the fact that the ribbons on the sailors are interesting, and not wondering why they are in a NAVY uniform, and even full on the shore, they are fighting, black, and even against the background of sand or grass, even TA disguise, moreover, rarely the sailors will see the duffel bags, so how do you order them to carry the ammunition? That's the whole answer. The more the Marines received normal infantry ammunition, the less "girded"
    1. FID
      FID 15 November 2016 08: 35
      +7
      And you ask at least one of the sailors - they will change the vest for the tunic ... Everything will become clear!
      1. Gray brother
        Gray brother 15 November 2016 09: 44
        +2
        Quote: SSI
        And you ask at least one of the sailors - they will change the vest for the tunic ... Everything will become clear!

        So they are all in vests. request
        1. FID
          FID 15 November 2016 10: 20
          +7
          And I mean the same .... Army uniform, but "sea soul" .....
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 15 November 2016 13: 17
        +3
        And what does the vest and gymnast have to do with it? Vest - underwear, gymnast - already a form.
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 15 November 2016 18: 59
      +4
      Mmi, miTut can be objected: the ones shown in the picture are all armed with PPSh assault rifles and machine-gun belts are there like a fish umbrella.
      2. You cite the field charter of 1938, but there was one machine gunner. I know from books and memoirs of veterans
      To distribute the supply of ammunition, I was told by my grandfather F.I., Degtev, he cradled Sevastopol. The sailors quickly appreciated the importance of machine gun support, and therefore tried to help the machine gunner. Ammunition is not superfluous in battle
  3. sunzhenets
    sunzhenets 15 November 2016 08: 40
    +5
    Author, correct the mistake. Photo no earlier than 1925.
    There are very few photos from the First World War, but here is a photo of an anti-aircraft gunner from the "October Revolution". So, in the background - "Marat".

    During the WWII there was no battleship "October Revolution".
    The October Revolution (Gangut until 1925) is the battleship of the Russian and Soviet fleets, the last (by bookmark date and launch date) of the four dreadnoughts of the Baltic series of the Sevastopol type.
    "Petropavlovsk" - the battleship of the Russian and Soviet Baltic fleet, the third (by the date of laying and launching date) battleship of the "Sevastopol" type. In service since 1914 (in 1921-1943 it was called the "Marat"). (Wikipedia)
    1. Walking
      Walking 15 November 2016 12: 59
      +2
      Yes, everything is clear there, at least by the name of the ships that in the photo the Soviet fleet does not need to be specified.
    2. nnz226
      nnz226 1 February 2017 12: 14
      0
      Nooooo ... In the photo it’s already “Marat”: the tower superstructure is already on the battleship, and it was already made during the modernization of the “Marat”.
    3. ava09
      ava09 4 August 2017 19: 57
      0
      Quote: Sunflower
      During the WWII there was no battleship "October Revolution".

      (c) There are very few photos of the times of the First World War, but here is a photo of the anti-aircraft gunner from the “October Revolution”. So, in the background is Marat. (C)
      Where is the statement, one hundred photos of the First World War? There comes a time when the Russians cease to understand Russian. This is much more dangerous than some alleged mistakes.
  4. Stas57
    Stas57 15 November 2016 09: 34
    +1
    Ponty is.
    Maxim was very gentle to the tape, after such wear guaranteed machine gun plugs.
    And of course, the transfer of BC to the rifle.
    1. jjj
      jjj 15 November 2016 10: 25
      +6
      The tape is bent more in the boxes than on the human body. The distribution of ammunition over a large number of "carriers" is a rational decision. And since it has taken on a mass character, then the practical
      1. Stas57
        Stas57 15 November 2016 13: 50
        +1
        And where is the inflection?
        Cloth tape, stretched from damp, guess where it will stretch? In the box or on the body?
        You can shoot from such a tape, but you must be able to master the subject well.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 15 November 2016 16: 00
          +12
          He-he-he ... the cloth tape for "Maxim" was a complicated thing even in production:
          After some time, in addition to machine guns, they suggested making machine gun belt, which we had not released before. The troops had a sufficient supply of it. Tape - not a machine gun, its production mastered quickly. But here comes the military representative and complains:
          - The machine gun works fine on the tape of the Tula manufacture, but on the one that we do it is bad. I can’t take her.
          Immediately called anyone:
          - What's the matter?
          They say:
          - We do everything exactly in size, and the tape really “sticks” to the machine gun.
          I went to the workshop. Only women worked there. They look at me guiltyly, but they can’t explain anything:
          - We try to do everything as carefully as possible.
          And I see, they’re trying. And went to the shooting - again a snag.
          They fought over the tape for several days, tried all the options for its manufacture - nothing comes of it. Something is wrong. Apparently, there is some secret unknown to us in installing rivets between cartridges. The tape is not metal, but from tarpaulin. Who will reveal the secret? Only carts, the tape of which military acceptance takes without nitpicking. I thought that for sure there were women in Tula who, for various reasons, were not evacuated. But you need to find them, persuade them to go to Izhevsk for a while, and make sure that they are with us literally within one or two days, otherwise there will be an interruption in the shipment of machine guns to the front.
          (...)
          The Secretary of the Central Committee listened to me carefully (I visited him more than once at the meetings when issues of the release of new aircraft with new weapons were considered), answered that he would give the order today, and obliged me to keep in touch with the first secretary of the regional committee V. G. Zhavoronkov.
          (...)
          Tulechki arrived the next day. They sat down to work - and a good ribbon of the same parts went. Everything turned out to be offensively simple. During the installation of rivets, the tape should be given a certain tightness, which was felt only by hands. Experienced workers knew this, but ours did not. Having completed their work, the Tulechki flew home, and our women now worked with a smile.
          © Novikov V.N. On the eve and on test days.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 15 November 2016 15: 32
        +3
        "The tape is bent more in boxes than on the human body" ////

        In boxes, ribbons are not stretched under their own weight. And the cartridges don't move
        back and forth (and that must be corrected during firing, and sometimes break off during
        "plug").
    2. Monarchist
      Monarchist 15 November 2016 19: 05
      +1
      Show off? Perhaps, but try to repel the attacks of a superior opponent without a machine gun, and there’s a better chance that the machine gun will last longer
    3. ava09
      ava09 21 November 2016 07: 33
      0
      Many talk about "show-off" and expediency, the Sea Soul and gymnastics, but so far none of them have tried to mentally find themselves in the reality of landing and battle. It is no secret that the marines were analogous to the modern DShB and performed similar tasks, i.e. participated in battles of special intensity. Now imagine that going into a battle in which it will be very difficult to survive, and the task is even more difficult to complete, you first of all care about the "show-offs" ... Although I cannot imagine a sailor without "show-off" in relation to "boots" .)))
  5. baudolino
    baudolino 15 November 2016 09: 49
    +2
    Interesting. But this is one of those varieties of questions that were easier to find out from living veterans. Now, unfortunately, few of them remain.
  6. uskrabut
    uskrabut 15 November 2016 10: 02
    +8
    I really thought it was sailor chic. In reality, everything turned out to be practical and vital. Plus to the article, many thanks to the author!
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 15 November 2016 10: 28
      +6
      Before, my thoughts about the tapes were the same. It's good that I found out the situation.
      I really liked the article. Thank you, Roman.
      1. avg-mgn
        avg-mgn 15 November 2016 11: 51
        +3
        In general, chic, for example, on Nevsky, is one thing, but the attack is not chic, here the foreground is the practicality of a particular solution.
        At one time I read somewhere about such an element of the naval show as a flare, it turned out that there was not only chic in it, but also the point - there was not even a trace of dust on the boots.
        The article is extremely interesting, thanks. +
        1. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 15 November 2016 13: 21
          +19
          "... there wasn't even a trace of dust on the boots."
          In fact, dust has nothing to do with it. A flare is easier to throw off if you fall into the water on the high seas. There are fasteners on trousers from the sides for the same reason.
          1. Severomor
            Severomor 15 November 2016 14: 00
            +5
            Quote: Black Colonel
            There are fasteners on trousers from the sides for the same reason.

            Valves
        2. okroshka79
          okroshka79 19 November 2016 23: 10
          0
          With a flare here a little bit wrong. A flare, as well as a cut of naval trousers (a flap that flips forward with buttons on the sides of the belt instead of a fly), took place so that when it got into the water, it would quickly take off the pants so that it would not be pulled under the water when it got wet.
  7. Dekabrist
    Dekabrist 15 November 2016 10: 43
    +4
    If you look at documentary footage of the Vietnam War, you can very often meet soldiers hung with machine-gun ribbons. Do not gird with a metal tape. It is unlikely that these people will show off.
    By the way, in the photographs of the Civil War the Red Army men are belted with ribbons, and in the photographs of the Patriotic War - militias. It was unlikely that there were so many people who wished to pontoon in war. But to have a supply of ammunition for live machine guns is quite logical.
    1. Stas57
      Stas57 15 November 2016 17: 23
      0
      And to you personally.
      The machine gun will not shoot such a tape, the machine gun is very demanding on the tape. And if in this form also crawl ....
      This is either BK to the rifle or Pont. But rather all together
      1. Dekabrist
        Dekabrist 15 November 2016 23: 40
        +1
        Such a tape will not be, but ammo from such a tape?
        1. Stas57
          Stas57 16 November 2016 09: 43
          0
          And the cartridges must be redrawn.
          Attention Question (C)
          Can immediately fill in the box?
      2. gladcu2
        gladcu2 17 November 2016 15: 40
        +1
        Stas57

        The author logically conceived. His point of view has a good foundation.

        Yes indeed, the photographs also have tapes with obvious defects. Missing cartridges are visible. And given how someone noticed that the cartridges should be packed tightly into the tape, it’s reasonable to notice. Such dressings NOT ALWAYS performed the functions of transferring ammunition.

        These dressings were a form of clothing as well. For example, for the militia during the civil war.

        And about "show-off" it is even more appropriate to speak than about a case of real necessity. Since show-off, this is also a serious motivating factor. And I assure you that the "show-off" remained even under the threat of death.

        In other words, the author’s version is good, but the answer is not one hundred percent correct. Because it is impossible.
        1. Stas57
          Stas57 17 November 2016 16: 25
          0
          These dressings were a form of clothing as well. For example, for the militia during the civil war.

          this originates from the civilian, everything is clear there, the lack of pouches on land sailors.
          then it acquired a special image, we judge by the photo, by, I note, staged photos.
          Well, the concept of show-off is the correct image of a combat sailor.
  8. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 15 November 2016 10: 59
    +1
    What does the machine gun have to do with it?
    Just a convenient patronage for the Mosin rifle.
    1. Severomor
      Severomor 15 November 2016 12: 34
      +4
      Quote: voyaka uh
      What does the machine gun have to do with it?

      Shoot)))) (s)

      600 rpm, need cartridges

      One can only imagine how much additional ammunition was moved to the "Maxim".
      It is logical that each infantryman (marine) for the unit’s own machine gun will grab ammunition. In such a situation, I would personally grab. And you?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 15 November 2016 15: 23
        +4
        I did a lot of tapes for the Belgian MAG.
        They are from steel segments, much stronger than Maxim’s tape.
        And they demanded a careful attitude. We used to tear the 250 round
        tape into 4 parts (in half and again in half) and shoved,
        carefully turning on the pouches.
        I am sure that the ribbon that hangs on the body crosswise for
        future machine gun firing will be unsuitable.

        I assumed that since Maxim’s cartridge and Mosin’s rifle are the same,
        the sailors simply carried spare cartridges on them to load their rifles.
        1. Stas57
          Stas57 15 November 2016 17: 20
          0
          Absolutely.
          And all these stories for children that slip out of their hands are at the level of Rezun (the tank has wheels, which means it is freaking, which means ....)
          The fact that such a tape (wet, stretched, with dirt) is not suitable for Maxim does not bother the author.
        2. gladcu2
          gladcu2 17 November 2016 15: 54
          +2
          voyaka uh

          Bandaging tapes, according to the author’s version and according to the comments, performed the following functions.

          1. Carrying direct ammunition for the Maxim machine gun. The photo shows the quality of the tape.

          2. Carrying ammunition for the infantry to the Mosin rifle. The ribbons in the photo are not negligible, with sagging and missing cartridges.

          By the way, the author is about a box for stuffing cartridges. It is possible that such boxes regularly existed, but they were most likely lost too.

          3. Ribbons, as a form of clothing for the militia, which determines the status of a fighter.

          4. Naval "show-offs". This is a very powerful motivating factor. Each of the sailors showed off their own peculiarity of belonging to the "other class". Its special status. If anything, then for status, you in the gateway and in the face can give, the same gopniks. You can sneer as much as you like over the show-off, but they cannot be denied.
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 16 November 2016 04: 46
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Just a convenient patronage for the Mosin rifle.

      The Mosin rifle is therefore called a store rifle, which is loaded with clips of 5 rounds. Loading the rifle one cartridge at a time from the tape makes the rifle a single shot with all the "ensuing" consequences (a decrease in the rate of fire) .... so there is no convenience here!
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 November 2016 13: 23
        +3
        "which is loaded with clips of 5 rounds" ////

        And how do you think the soldiers received rifle cartridges?
        In clips? - no: in bulk. And loaded the clip one by one.
        Where to store bullets in bulk? - or in makeshift pouches tied to a belt,
        what was popular, or in ... a tape over your shoulders.
        1. Nikolaevich I
          Nikolaevich I 16 November 2016 16: 44
          +2
          Well, if the soldiers received cartridges "in bulk", then where did they "get" the clips? By the way, in ammunition production "before the war", 2 "zinc" cartridges were packed into a wooden cartridge box, 20 carton packs were packed into "zinc", a pack of 3 clips of 5 cartridges each ... And in wartime they began to produce packaging 20 rounds in a pack without a clip. According to the regulations, the equipment of the Red Army soldier included two pouches with two compartments, 3 clips were placed in the compartment (however, there are claims that 2). When the remains of fighters were found on the battlefield, 90% of the ammunition was in clips. Of course. , no one "forbade" a soldier to stock up on cartridges for future use, but put them in bags. Yes, the soldiers had to "load the clips one cartridge at a time", but they wore pouches with clips on their belts, and not in "homemade bags in bulk" .. ...
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 17 November 2016 15: 59
            +2
            Nikolaevich.

            You take 5 rounds of zhmenu. You pull back the bolt and stuff it one at a time into the rifle store. It doesn’t take much time. Especially if the clips are over and the empty clips are also confused. And they are confidently lost.
  9. Free wind
    Free wind 15 November 2016 13: 57
    +1
    As a portable ammunition probably fit, but not in battle. My grandfather was a machine gunner, you can probably say a pro. 31-35 years of service, machine gunner in the border troops on the Polish border. He ended the war with the commander of a rifle company or a machine gun, I don’t remember exactly. But he always said about machine gunners that it was number 1 and 2, namely about Maximov machine guns. The machine gunners carry a disassembled machine gun on the march, and everyone else got boxes of ribbons, but the ribbons did not carry it
  10. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 15 November 2016 16: 14
    +3
    In the fourth photo (Guard foreman of the 2nd article V.Polchaninov and Red Navy B.Vyunikov at the English "Vickers" on the guards cruiser "Red Caucasus". 1943 the Black Sea Fleet.) a rather rare animal in our country - the ship's quadruple Vickers 12,7 mm.
  11. ISSIDOR
    ISSIDOR 15 November 2016 19: 24
    +4
    They lifted up the remains of the marine corps participating in the Tuapse defensive operation, some of the German MG ribbons were stuffed with our cartridges, and there were belt pouches with clips, so I lean toward the version of the naval show-offs.
  12. Spectre
    Spectre 15 November 2016 20: 14
    +1
    Of course, versions with add. ammunition and ext. chic look very believable. But maybe there was one more element - a kind of lightweight body armor, with protection from a bullet / shrapnel / knife / bayonet? This idea leads me to the fact that the tapes cover the vital organs. Of course, it’s not a fact that in this quality the ribbons somehow help, but the main thing is that the sailors themselves believe in it. :)
  13. Dekabrist
    Dekabrist 15 November 2016 23: 44
    +1
    Probably there will be no definite answer to this question. Moreover, there is no one to ask.
    By the way, on the site of the reconstructors of Sevastopol and Crimea, I came across a message that a canvas tape was found that was converted into a bandoleer at the site of the fighting.
  14. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 16 November 2016 05: 12
    +2
    After all, the DP was a machine gun purely supporting infantry, and inferior to the "Maxim" both in the rate of fire and in range.
    Strange! The author obviously confuses the rate of fire with the combat rate of fire, because the rate of fire for the "maxim" and the DP is the same. I will not argue about the "range": the "maxim" has both the maximum range and the aiming range more than that of the DP. Another 3 kopecks "about girding with machine-gun belts: these belts (or rather, cartridges) could serve as a kind of armor (ersatz-armor)
  15. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
    Andrei from Chelyabinsk 16 November 2016 17: 17
    +1
    The article is wonderful, read with great pleasure and interest. The explanation is very similar to the truth - probably because it is true.
  16. Cananecat
    Cananecat 17 November 2016 15: 29
    +3
    Grandfather, at the beginning of the war he was the 2nd number in the machine-gun crew, so he somehow said that the tapes were carried around like sailors.
  17. Blacks
    Blacks 20 November 2016 16: 48
    0
    I heard a different version .... the Marines at the beginning of the war were armed mainly with SVT, and it was for her that the ammunition was worn.
  18. Blacks
    Blacks 20 November 2016 17: 27
    +2

    from the 8th minute about
  19. nivander
    nivander 21 November 2016 10: 39
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    "... the thirtieth use of a helmet - wear on the head" - humor from the marines of the defenders of Sevastopol
  20. nnz226
    nnz226 1 February 2017 12: 16
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    Yes ... Russian Marines - THIS IS NOTHING! I read somewhere that the Wehrmacht soldiers, and the SS, in the inevitability of a clash with our marines in hand-to-hand combat, were allowed to flee ...
  21. Nursultan
    Nursultan 1 February 2017 12: 59
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    Thank you for the detailed presentation of the subject matter.