Remotely controlled: a deserted revolution of the towers of combat vehicles

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The Rheinmetall Defense Lance Modular Turret System modular turret system is equipped with a selective-powered 30-mm Mauser 30 MK 30-2 cannon with a twin-mounted 7,62-mm machine gun (pictured on Piranha IIIC armored vehicle)

Remotely controlled combat modules have been installed on armored combat vehicles for many years, but remotely controlled towers are currently being installed on a number of platforms. Let's look at the state of affairs and prospects in this area.



Remote-controlled combat modules (SDM) for armored combat vehicles (BBM) are usually armed with 7,62-mm or 12,7-mm machine guns or 30-mm or 40-mm automatic grenade launchers. They are currently being installed on the BBM to increase firepower, but some machines are equipped with remote-controlled turrets (OAK), which are usually armed with medium-caliber guns, machine guns paired with them and in some cases anti-tank guided missiles (ATGM).

The main armament is in most cases stabilized and this feature, coupled with stabilized day / night sighting systems, including a laser rangefinder, allows you to hit targets in almost any weather conditions. Some towers are also equipped with an automatic target tracking station to facilitate the work of the gunner and simplify the sequence of destruction of flying objects.

As a rule, these OAKs are controlled by one person inside the body of the machine, whose workplace is equipped with a flat-panel display and appropriate controls, including a joystick and several handles.

Their layout usually provides for functional flexibility and therefore the machine is equipped with two sets of controls: one for the commander and one for the shooter. In this case, a commander panoramic sight with day / night channels and a laser rangefinder can be added.

Most of the OAK has the ability to reload weapons from under the armor, one of the typical examples - OAK HITFIST 30 Italian company Leonardo (formerly Oto Melara), which has a door at the bottom for access to the tower. Some of these OAKs are unskilled in their pure form, while others have habitable options.

OAKs can be extremely expensive, easily reaching 50% of the cost of an armored vehicle, with the inclusion of options such as ATGM launchers, additional video cameras, rocket launchers, and sometimes components of the active protection complex.

The main advantage of the OAK is the absence of the basket and the corresponding penetration into the hull, thereby increasing the valuable internal volume inside the platform, which means at least the placement of two additional paratroopers.

The inhabited towers are heavier because they are larger and have additional crew protection, but at the same time their crews have elevated levels of situational awareness and can detect and destroy targets faster than in the case of OAK. By the way, the reconnaissance vehicle of the French army Jaguar 6x6 and the reconnaissance tracked vehicle of the British army Ajax, currently undergoing tests, are equipped with a two-seat turret.

The Belgian company CMI Defense has considerable experience in the design, development and production of towers, which are mainly intended for the export market.

The company's latest development is the Cockerill 3000 range of modular and expandable towers. They are offered in manned and uninhabited versions and can be equipped with weapons ranging from 25-mm guns to 105-mm rifled guns.

The company CMI Defense is currently engaged in the manufacture of a large batch of manned towers of the Cockerill 3000 series for an unnamed foreign customer. But it is obvious that these towers are designed for installation on LAV 8x8 vehicles manufactured by General Dynamics Land Systems - Canada, which are in service with the Saudi National Guard.

The first two options that went into production were the Cockerill 3030 and Cockerill 30105 towers. The first one is armed with an MK30 selective-powered 44 gun from Orbital ATK Armament Systems and an 7,62-mm machine gun paired with it, while the second one is equipped with a CV105 105-mm threaded gun from CMI Defense.

For 105-mm guns, ammunition is fed by automatic loader (it is also installed in the CT-CV turret); In addition to 105-mm projectiles, she can also fire a projectile guided by a laser beam to the maximum range of 5000 meters.

Of course, there are many options for the Cockerill 3000 series of towers: sighting systems, fire control systems, situational awareness systems, rocket launchers, etc. A more advanced version has two stabilized sighting complexes.

Based on the experience of developing and producing single and double towers for local and overseas markets, Rheinmetall Defense developed the Lance Modular Turret System (MTS) modular tower, which is offered in habitable and uninhabited configurations.

The first serial order for the Lance manned turret came from Spain, which received four systems for installation on Piranha IIIC 8x8 (manufactured by General Dynamics European Land Systems - MOWAG) of the Spanish marines.

This turret is armed with an 30-mm Mauser MK 30-2 ABM cannon and a paired 7,62-mm machine gun, equipped with a computerized FCS and various surveillance systems, including a commander's stabilized panoramic sight.

The RCT version of the Lance tower is offered with different weapons and can be controlled by one or two operators sitting in the vehicle body. For testing, the manned turret was installed on the Boxer 8x8 MRAV multi-purpose armored vehicle for export. For example, the company Rheinmetall offers Boxer MRAV with this tower for the program of the Australian Army Land 400 Phase II.


Picture of the Cockerill 3000 series from CMI Defense: 105-mm gun on the left, 90-mm gun in the center and 30-mm gun on the right

OAK and Puma

The German army currently receives from PSM a Puma infantry fighting vehicle in the number of 350 units, of which 8 is a driving training machine.

On the Puma BMP, an Krauss-Maffei Wegmann uninhabitable RCT turret is installed, armed with an 30-mm Mauser MK 30-2 ABM cannon and a paired 5,56-mm machine gun. A competition is currently open to replace this 7,62-mm machine gun. For testing on the port side of the tower of two Puma machines, a dual installation of Spike anti-tank guided missile was installed.

Also for the test version of this turret was installed on the Boxer MRAV armored vehicle, which is usually installed with the double-engined anti-aircraft gun with the 12, -7-mm machine gun M2 HB. Installing a tower from the Puma BMP on the Boxer transforms this platform from BTR to BMP.

In the meantime, the Israeli company Elbit also developed and started production of its UT30, which was originally positioned as an SDSM, but now received the designation Unmanned Turret (uninhabited tower).

Weight UT30 depends on the set of weapons and is about one ton. Typical kit: 25-mm cannon from Orbital ATK M242 or 30-mm MK44 with a 7,62-mm machine gun (optional ATGM is installed). The touch kit includes a CCD camera, a second-generation thermal imager and a laser range finder.

Leonardo has developed several towers with armaments of a caliber up to 120 mm, as well as an OCDM for the Italian and foreign markets. In the middle of 2008, the company introduced the HITFIST 30 turret, which was already being installed on a number of platforms for testing, including the Freccia 8x8 BMP and the French VBCI 8x8 platforms.

Relatively small weight 1350 kg allows you to install the tower on a variety of machines. As a rule, the turret is armed with a stabilized 30-mm MK44 cannon with selective power from Orbital ATK with 230 rounds of ammunition, as well as a twin 7,62-mm machine gun.

Electric tower drives and armament, large angles of vertical guidance, from –10 ° to + 75 °, make it possible to effectively deal with threats in built-up areas, as well as with low-low-altitude air targets. The firepower of HITFIST 30 can be enhanced by installing a launch container with two Spike ATGMs on the left side of the tower. The system can be serviced by one or two operators, the second operator captures the targets with the help of a panoramic sight mounted on the roof.

In June 2016, the development of the HITFIST 30 OAK was completed, two pre-production samples were made, but orders for it have not yet been reported.

Remotely controlled: a deserted revolution of the towers of combat vehicles

Russian BMP-3 with automatic artillery installation АУ-220M with 57-mm cannon and 7,62-mm machine gun (aka "Derivation"). This OAK is equipped with two stabilized day / night sighting systems.

OASM American Army

Since its inception, the Norwegian Kongsberg has manufactured more than 10000 DUBM, and the American army is the largest operator of the products of this company. These systems are typically armed with 5,56-mm, 7,62-mm, 12,7-mm machine guns or 40-mm grenade launcher, although the latter module version is armed weapons two types. This newest Protector Dual Remote Weapon Station (DRWS) was selected for the Canadian Tactical Armored Vehicle (TAV) tactical armored vehicle program.

On its own initiative, the company also developed the OAK Protector Medium Caliber Remote Weapon Station (MC-RWS), which began production in the middle of 2010. For testing it was installed on several platforms.

In 2016, the US Army chose the MC-RWS turret to upgrade the 97 of M1126 Stryker 8x8 armored personnel carriers manufactured by General Dynamics Land Systems in order to increase its firepower. The first eight towers will be supplied by Kongsberg at the end of 2016 of the year.


MC-RWS Norwegian Kongsberg Remote Controlled Tower

The OAK MC-RWS is usually armed with a 30-mm cannon with selective power and a paired 7,62-mm machine gun, optionally a Kongsberg AUVM with 5,56-mm, 7,62-mm, 12,7-mm machine gun or 40-mm automatic grenade launcher can be mounted on the tower roof. Javelin-made Raytheon / Lockheed Martin ATGMs can also be installed aboard the turret with increased range.

The MC-RWS tower was installed on a variety of platforms, both wheeled and tracked. The US Army also installed it on the Bradley BMP, which is currently equipped with a twin turret armed with Orbital ATK 25-mm cannon, paired with a 242-mm machine gun and two TOW ATGMs on the left side.

In February, the Russian corporation Uralvagonzavod 2015 presented a full-scale model of its automatic artillery installation AU-220M as a possible candidate for the Enigma 8x8 family of vehicles, developed by the Emirates Defense Emirates company.

At the end of 2015, the AU-220M, also known as Baikal, was shown on the BMP-3 as one of the new weapon systems that can be installed on this platform.

The AU-220M turret is armed with a 57-mm cannon with selective power and technical rate of fire up to 120 shots / min, paired with a PKTM 7,62-mm machine gun and two groups of 81-mm grenades. Ready-made ammunition 200, including armor-piercing and high-explosive fragmentation, is housed in a turret. It should be said about the guided ammunition, the declared maximum range of which is 12000 meters.



The model presented at the beginning of 2015 of the year (photo above) had a gun with a perforated muzzle brake, but the gun, shown in September of the same year on the BMP-3, had a slit muzzle brake, and above it, apparently, a barrel bend sensor. The range of angles of vertical guidance of the full revolving AU-220M is from -5 ° to 75 °, which allows to obtain limited zenith capabilities. The specimen shown was equipped with two stabilized sighting systems.

Another Russian company, the Instrument Engineering Design Bureau (KBP), has extensive experience in creating turrets and tower armament, especially guided missiles. Its newest development, the OAK or Epoch crewless combat module, is installed on three new Russian cars: the heavy T-15 infantry fighting vehicle, the crawler-mounted Kurgan-25 infantry fighting vehicle and the wheeled infantry fighting vehicle Boomerang. This turret is armed with a fully-powered 30A2 42 dual-power cannon with 500 rounds of ammunition. On the left, an 7,62-mm machine gun with 2000 ammunition ammunition.

Along the sides of the turret, launchers with two laser-guided missiles Cornet, also manufactured by KBP, are installed, having a range of 8000-10000 meters depending on the variant. These missiles are equipped with a thermobaric warhead or a tandem high-explosive warhead to neutralize targets equipped with dynamic protection systems. The tower is equipped with a computerized MSA, and the commander and the gunner have a stabilized sight mounted on the roof with day and night channels and a laser rangefinder.

Due to the integration of the OAK Epoch into three new BBM platforms, Russia has made a big step in unifying its weapon systems, since in this case the costs of full service life and training are reduced.

KBP also developed at least two OAKs, which are offered as separate products or for installation on a new BMP-3M Dragoon.

The first of these, the BM 100 + 30 combat module, has the same weaponry (100-mm cannon, 30-mm cannon and twin 7,62-mm machine gun) as the original two-seat turret installed on the serial BMP-3. The second combat module BM 125 is armed with a 125-mm smooth-bore gun and an 7,62-mm machine gun paired with it.

The Slovak company EVPU developed and tested the OAK Turra 30, and then showed it on the upgraded BMP-1 and Finnish armored vehicle The Modular Vehicle 8x8. The turret is armed with a Russian 30-mm 2A42 stabilized cannon with an ammunition of ready-made 300 shots, although it can accept an alternative MK44 cannon from Orbital ATK Armament Systems.

Paired 7,62-mm PKT machine gun (installation of other machine guns is possible) and two ATGMs mounted on the right, there are also two groups of grenade launchers. The turret rotates through all 360 °, and the vertical guidance angles range from -10 ° to 70 °.

The gunner has a stabilized aiming system with a CCD camera, an infrared camera and a laser rangefinder. The commander has a panorama mounted on the roof with similar characteristics.

OAK Turra 30 weighs only 1540 kg and has a basic level of protection that corresponds to STANAG 4569 1 level, although it can be upgraded.


The Epoch OAK of the Russian company KBP is armed with an 30-mm 2A42 cannon, a paired 7,62-mm machine gun and two dual ATGM Cornet launchers

More OAK

The Tactical Remote Turret (TRT) tactical remote-controlled turret was originally developed by BAE Systems Land Systems South Africa, but is currently part of the South African Denel product line.

The TRT can be armed with various 25-mm and 30-mm cannons and machine guns, including the 2A42 cannon, and a twin PKT machine gun. This variant received the designation TRT-R30 (R - Russia and 30 - caliber). A dual ATGM can be added and then the designation becomes TRT-R30MK.

Another option is usually armed with an Orbital ATK Armament Systems 25-mm M242 cannon with 260 ready shots plus 7,62-mm machine gun with 1000 cartridges. The weapon is aimed at the target by the shooter with the help of the display, which is displayed from a color or black-and-white day camera and thermal imager installed coaxially with the weaponry. The basic TRT OAK is controlled by one operator, but there is the possibility of placing a second operator with an independent aiming system.


A new VAB Mk 3 6x6 machine from Renault Trucks Defense in BMP configuration is equipped with a Denel TRT-25 turret armed with an Orbital ATK M25 242-mm gun and 7,62-mm machine gun

Turkey is also not lagging behind in this area. The Turkish company FNSS Savunma Sistemleri manufactures various tracked and wheeled armored vehicles, as well as corresponding weapon systems. One of the latest developments of the company, the modular mid-caliber tower Teber-30, is offered in habitable and uninhabited configurations.

Teber-30 Uninhabited Tower weighs 2500 kg with STANAG 4569 protection. 2 Level, which can be upgraded to STANAG 4569. 3 Level. The inhabited Teber-30 tower has seats for the commander and the shooter and weighs 3500 kg with protection system 4 Level upgraded to 5 Level.

The turret can accept various 30-mm or 40-mm guns with selective power, including the MK44, and 7,62-mm machine guns and grenade launchers. Electric and vertical and horizontal guidance drives, commander and gunner jobs are equipped with stabilized day / night aiming systems with a laser rangefinder. Also in the tower installed a computerized MSA with automatic calculation of lead angles and automatic target tracking.

Over 10 years, the Turkish company Otokar finished the transition from the development and production of light armored vehicles - usually based on the chassis Land Rover and HMMWV 4x4 - to the development of not only heavy armored combat vehicles and 6x6 8x8, but also heavy tracked vehicles, such as main battle tank Altay. The company also developed several towers, among them the Oak Mizrak (spear). It is mounted on the Arma 8x8 BMP and Tulpar heavier tracked BMP.

On the Tulpar BMP, the system was shown with a 30-mm MK44 cannon and a 7,62-mm machine gun with vertical guidance angles from -10 ° to 60 °. It is also possible to install on the starboard side of the tower two ATGMs produced by Turkish Roketsan, which can hit armored targets at ranges up to 8000 meters.

The Mizrak OAK is serviced by a single operator with a stabilized sighting system installed to the left of the main armament. Also developed a version served by two operators, the commander in this case has a panoramic sight mounted on the roof.

Like most OAKs, Mizrak is available in a variety of options, both with different sighting systems, and with different levels of protection, starting with the STANAG 4569 ballistic protection 2 level. Unlike other OAKs, the Mizrak has an escape hatch on the roof of the tower.

Inhabited towers and remotely controlled towers have unique advantages, but the OAK do not penetrate the hull, allowing you to occupy the precious volume inside with something useful, for example, additional paratroopers. They also weigh less and therefore increase the level of platform protection.

Currently on the market are hundreds of models of tower systems. This includes combat modules, unmanned towers, and towers with a crew. It is very difficult for customers to make the right choice of the right turret from all this variety, but in the future this task will not become easier, since the number of manufacturers of weapon systems for combat vehicles offering their extended model series will only grow.

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  1. +3
    20 October 2016 08: 10
    The magnificent Bronevoy in the film "That same Munchausen" clearly defined the role of the fashion for warfare: "Where is my military uniform? What? I wear this one-breasted one? Don't you know that nobody is fighting in a single-breasted one now? Disgrace! War! at the threshold and we are not ready! No, we are not ready ... "How easy it is to manage industry, engineering thought and, consequently, the policy of non-independent countries. Forcing all over the world to follow the latest military fashion can teach everyone and everything to remote control. Now according to the text of the article .... We read "Inhabited towers and remotely controlled towers have unique advantages, but the OAK does not penetrate the hull, allowing you to take up precious volume inside with something useful, for example, additional paratroopers. They also weigh less and, therefore, allow improve platform protection. " It turns out that an armored vehicle in non-hazardous situations proudly rushes towards dangers, carrying something useful light paratroopers. But when danger arises, an armored vehicle with an OAK erupts from the armored belly of light paratroopers for its protection. That is, the cost of the "platform" is higher than the life of light paratroopers, and not vice versa.
    1. +1
      20 October 2016 09: 26
      Quote: cunning
      It turns out that in an non-hazardous situation the armored car proudly rushes towards dangers

      Exactly at this time, the inhabited tower has the maximum advantage over the remotely controlled module. Because the commander can crawl out into the hatch, and vigilantly monitor the danger.

      But in battle, the differences between inhabited and uninhabited are almost leveled. There is only the possibility of firing in emergency conditions
      1. 0
        20 October 2016 09: 39
        I don’t know what “emergency fire” is, but I hope that it is not related to road accidents.
        1. +3
          20 October 2016 13: 01
          Quote: cunning
          I don't know what "emergency fire" is

          The options are different. You can simply: the electric start of the PKT does not work - shoot manually

          There are also complex ones. For example, the famous movie with the shooting of Msta-S with a cameraman inside the tower. So that he would not be accidentally beaten by the coordinator, I had to turn it off. And the role of the coordinator was performed by the charging charger. And the conveyor with shells for him manually scrolled the gun commander.
          At the same time, the rammer worked on a regular basis. "Lost" ACS electricity - the rammer can be turned manually by the handle. The rammer mechanic is covered - you can push the shell and charge into the chamber with the rammer. These are all emergency modes. But for their adequate use, you need to know the materiel perfectly.
          For example, the same 2C19 may refuse to shoot if the end of the hatch of the mechanic did not work. And the crew must know the place and function of this trailer, as well as how it can be bypassed.
          1. +1
            20 October 2016 13: 24
            If the trailer did not work, then this is not an accident, but a simple sloppiness of the crew, a flaw in the designers and the incompetence of the military acceptance. If there is no power supply in the mains, it is possible to shoot from the FCT even without an electric trigger. These are not emergency situations, this is what the crew should be trained in. An inoperative electric start is treated by simply replacing the fuse. An emergency situation is when on a march near the BMP, diesel fuel in the ejector box lights up, and the entire BMP is hung with gas cans, tarpaulins, tent stakes and ammunition boxes. And then if the crew is properly trained, then a three-meter column of fire manages to quickly strangle the fire; it does not turn into an accident.
            1. +2
              20 October 2016 13: 53
              Quote: cunning
              If the trailer did not work, then this is not an accident, but a simple sloppiness of the crew, a flaw in the designers and the incompetence of the military acceptance

              Sometimes it’s an accident. Or a malfunction. There are a lot of trailer men ...

              Quote: cunning
              An inoperative electric start is treated by simply replacing the fuse.

              Yeah ... Again, there are different cases. He stood guard time. The inspector came, climbed into the BRDM. And I had a pale look due to an inoperative electric release. And he didn’t work for the simplest reason - the crew constantly living in the guardhouse was foolish. I unhooked the wire and used it for a more important business - making cotton candy.

              Quote: cunning
              The emergency situation is when on the march at the BMP, diesel fuel in the ejector box lights up

              Due to lack or improper maintenance. 8)))))))))))))))
              Well Duc "ribbed" must be fastened with several bolts to be able to extinguish.

              Quote: cunning
              And then if the crew is properly trained, then a three-meter column of fire manages to quickly strangle the fire; it does not turn into an accident.

              Ha ha ha ... If the crew is properly trained, then they should urgently leave the car. It is impossible to extinguish the car when it is nominally fixed ribbed. Especially when the "three-meter pillar of fire" appeared. At this stage, the shells are already starting to explode.
              1. +1
                20 October 2016 14: 03
                Ejectors are burning not only on our BMP, but also on the Germans on their Marders. It is easy to extinguish - the radiator shutters are instantly closed and the fuel delivery pedal is pressed. As a result, the fire in the ejector is suffocated and extinguished by the exhaust. So much for ha-ha-ha .... Ribbed closes the box and the side ones, and it doesn't stick to the ejector. About the cotton candy wire ..... cool filled, hammer!
                1. +1
                  20 October 2016 14: 07
                  Quote: cunning
                  It is easy to extinguish - the radiator shutters are instantly closed and the fuel delivery pedal is pressed. As a result, the fire in the ejector is suffocated and extinguished by the exhaust. So much for ha-ha-ha .... Ribbed closes the box and the side ones, and it doesn't stick to the ejector.

                  Of course. Link to TO and IE BMP-2 give?

                  Quote: cunning
                  About wire for cotton candy ..... great flooded hammer!

                  Here on the site there is an uncle with 19 MSD, he must remember this scandal.
                  1. 0
                    20 October 2016 14: 20
                    For four years I commanded a battalion on BMP-2, and before that, 4 years on BMP-1. About the company and platoon link to give?
                    1. 0
                      20 October 2016 14: 27
                      Yes, I realized that you are pretending to be a poor relative. And the end of the week, tomorrow Friday you can relax.
                      1. +2
                        20 October 2016 14: 31
                        By all military rules, Friday is a courageous day (good cabaret meal). Saturday - double courageous. But sad Sunday for those who on Friday and Saturday stood in the outfit.
      2. 0
        22 October 2016 11: 41
        An armored personnel carrier with an uninhabited DBM can shoot from positions safe for the crew’s lives, especially if the BC is removed from the BO. To monitor the danger is better developed, high-quality optics, also having info from the UAV, without protruding. Of course, everything depends on various factors, like the intensity of the battle, the level and armament of the enemy, but still it’s always possible to catch an RPG in a tower, or a sniper bullet, and here the inhabited tower loses.
    2. +1
      20 October 2016 11: 00
      Quote: cunning
      But when a danger arises, an armored car with an OAK spews out light armored paratroopers from the armored womb for its protection.


      And it always has been, intense defense - dismount and into battle. And if it’s weak - right off the bat, sit on the armor and sniff — an insulting discrepancy.

      If on the topic, it is better of course the uninhabited tower. But then, when there will be no problems with reliability (and this with the presence of several systems, devices and mechanisms is difficult to provide), power and the ability to choose the type of PSU.

      The topic needs to be developed, but so far inhabited as it is more reliable.
      1. 0
        20 October 2016 11: 26
        I completely agree with your opinion. As soon as I read about an uninhabited tower or combat module (the beautiful word MODULE is from the word MODA, it means MOOD), the Guide, the section Delays in shooting and methods for eliminating them are immediately remembered. For any weapon, the minimum number is at least 10.
    3. +1
      20 October 2016 12: 36
      Quote: cunning
      They also weigh less and therefore increase the level of protection of the platform.

      How the following strange conclusion was drawn from here:
      Quote: cunning
      That is, the cost of the "platform" is higher than the life of light paratroopers

      On the contrary, instead of a cheap inhabited tower, we put an expensive DBM, which is more compact and lighter. We save the saved mass on booking and other protective gadgets. Extra costs in exchange for the ability to deliver the landing to the target in more safety. As for situational awareness, money is again decided here. Otherwise, the good old BMP-2 with an amphibious assault on the armor is quite enough - there really are no need for combat modules.
      1. 0
        20 October 2016 12: 58
        Why book something if, in the event of a clash, you have to take this 20 ton miracle to the rear and carefully hide it? It is possible to deliver infantry to the area in cheap trucks, and then with the same trucks deliver ammunition and evacuate the wounded. I wonder what is "good" about the BMP-2? Be merciful!
        1. 0
          20 October 2016 13: 12
          Quote: cunning
          You can also deliver infantry to the area by cheap trucks.

          ???????
          Did you serve in the army?
          1. 0
            20 October 2016 13: 27
            No, I taught drawing at school.
            1. 0
              20 October 2016 13: 54
              It seems like that. Highly.
        2. 0
          20 October 2016 13: 39
          Quote: cunning
          Why book something, if in case of a clash, you have to take this 20-ton miracle to the rear and carefully hide it?


          So when it was (on cars). And now this is a full-fledged fire separation facility.
          The offensive goes in chain, behind the tanks.
          on the defensive. on the positions of the squad (1 tier), and in armored groups or fire ambushes (then it is generally used without landing).
          1. 0
            20 October 2016 13: 45
            And what is this 1 tier?
            1. 0
              20 October 2016 13: 55
              This is not part of the theory of painting?
            2. +1
              20 October 2016 14: 03
              Quote: cunning
              And what is this 1 tier?


              Typically, for fire ambushes and an armored group, equipment is taken from a company of the 2nd echelon of the battalion, or platoons of the 2nd echelon of the company (from the direction of the enemy’s minor efforts).
      2. 0
        20 October 2016 13: 38
        Quote: brn521
        As for situational awareness, money is again decided here.

        Nearly. Awareness of the need to increase it to the military has come a long time ago.
        But the technical opportunity appeared literally in the last year or two.

        Systems of virtual reality, allowing to obtain "transparent armor" without a time delay, are shown only at exhibitions of the gaming industry. Otherwise, the crews of tanks and BM would have to train their vestibular more abruptly than the pilots.
  2. 0
    20 October 2016 08: 43
    For 105-mm guns, ammunition is fed by automatic loader (it is also installed in the CT-CV turret); In addition to 105-mm projectiles, she can also fire a projectile guided by a laser beam to the maximum range of 5000 meters.

    zrada, Westerners convinced us all the truth that AZ is a minus because of which the crews die.
    1. +1
      20 October 2016 23: 22
      The AU-220M turret is armed with a 57-mm cannon ... An ammunition load of 200 finished shots, including armor-piercing and high-explosive fragmentation, is located in the turret.

      Hmm, again we are driving this blizzard with two hundred shells in the tower ...
      When they showed in AU220M - at least there wouldn’t be so much nonsense:

      There is a total of 90 rounds of ammunition: 70 rounds in a mechanized combat unit and 20 rounds in an automatic combat unit.
      And now the turret compartment has been eliminated, the tower in size has become even smaller ... and the ammunition has become 200 shots...

      Guys, well, you trim the sturgeon, huh? Well we are not some suckers, what are you bred us?
  3. +1
    20 October 2016 12: 22
    I don’t know how 57mm, but we really miss the 37-45mm analogue of 2A46.
    1. 0
      20 October 2016 23: 33
      Yeah. With our project, 45mm guns for telescopic ammunition - quiet and smooth ... but 57mm anti-aircraft guns - right now the trend of the year - poke where necessary and not necessary
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        1. 0
          22 October 2016 13: 27
          In the form in which this fluff is everywhere shown, its effectiveness is not entirely clear.
          1. 0
            22 October 2016 14: 09
            Quote: karabas-barabas
            In the form in which this fluff is everywhere shown, its effectiveness is not entirely clear.


            I agree with that. A full-scale inhabited tower, and maybe not even an automatic machine - with loading from cassettes using the MZ. Increased rate of fire in a series of 3-4 shots with the ability to change the type of projectile.
  4. +1
    20 October 2016 14: 51
    Quote: cunning
    But sad Sunday for those who on Friday and Saturday stood in the outfit.


    So on Thursday, once again in the eyes of the SNS should not come across.
  5. 0
    20 October 2016 19: 29
    Such systems are the future of combat vehicles of any class. Further towards the reduction of the crew and the rejection of the soldier in direct combat contact. And it is better that this technique was present at studies and in museums.)))
  6. 0
    7 December 2022 02: 08
    Now it only remains to wait for the mass appearance of DBMS on our armored vehicles.