T-14: how is the most secret tank of Russia

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The T-14, better known as the Armata, is the only tank in the world of the third post-war generation. This is a unique development of Russian specialists, which has no analogues abroad. It is noteworthy that all components in the new tank - domestic, so the sanctions are not afraid of him.

Before the advent of “Almaty”, modern Russia did not have its own tank, because all the vehicles in service were originally from the Soviet Union. All the more remarkable is the fact that T-14 came up with and sent to the test a team of specialists, whose average age is 30-40 years.



The development of the T-14 began in 2009 in the Urals Design Bureau of Transport Engineering, part of the Uralvagonzavod corporation. For the first time, Armata was presented to the public at the Victory Parade in Moscow in 2015.

T-14: how is the most secret tank of Russia


The presentation of the new Russian tank has become a high-profile event for the whole world. On the eve of the parade, many Western media actively argued about the new product. So, Jane's Defense Weekly noted that the Armata has “a fundamentally new design and represents the most significant change in the family of Russian military equipment since the times of the 60's - 70's.” And The Telegraph, referring to Russian experts, suggested that the Armata could leave behind the American Abrams, the British Challenger and the German Leopard.

What is the platform "Armata"

The T-14 is just one of the machines on the Armata platform. The platform itself is universal and can be easily adapted to different weapons systems. For example, an artillery complex, an anti-aircraft missile system or a ground-to-ground missile system can be installed on it.

“We have a concept for the development of machines based on the Armata platform, consisting of 28 units of advanced weapons. - said in an interview with RIA "News»Director General of UVZ Oleg Sienko. - They should be integrated on the same platform: for air defense, heavy armored vehicles. Then there will be one repair kit, one zip (spare tools and accessories) to quickly change those or other components and assemblies. "

The Terminator-3 combat vehicle, whose predecessors, the Terminator-1 and Terminator-2, are analogous to the T-72 tank and are only exported, will be created on the basis of "Armata".

Invulnerable invisible tank

The design of the machine is kept in the strictest confidence, but even in appearance and open information from the developers it can be understood that it uses unprecedented design solutions. The main distinguishing feature of the “Almaty” is an uninhabited tower: the crew is in a special armored capsule. “The new technology made it possible to isolate people from ammunition and fuel, that is, if a car was hit, the crew’s survival probability is very high, since the armored capsule is well protected from all sides,” explains Oleg Sienko.



The original silhouette combined with the use of a special coating significantly reduces the visibility of the machine in the thermal and radar spectra of observation. Armat "Armata" is able to withstand the hit of any existing anti-tank weapons.

In addition, the "Armata" laid duplication of any process. For example, in the fire control system provides the ability to manually control the gun and make shots. “Armata” is resistant even to unforeseen actions of the crew, says Sienko. “The machine itself warns of a possible breakdown due to the information management system.”

It is noteworthy that the tank is designed in such a way that if a new weapon or a more advanced assembly unit appears, they can be quickly integrated into the vehicle. In UVZ emphasize that such a possibility so far not have one tank in the world.

Weapon for a new war

The T-14 became the first tank in the world that fits perfectly into the concept of “network-centric warfare”, that is, it is intended, first of all, not for a single battle, but for work as part of a group of combat vehicles.



Network-centric warfare (from the English. Network-centric warfare) is the concept of warfare, in which all participants in hostilities (command, military equipment, manpower, intelligence) are combined into a single information network. This allows you to synchronize actions, quickly receive and communicate information to all participants in real time. The result is the operational management of forces and means, an increase in the pace of operations, and the effectiveness of defeating enemy forces. Network-centric warfare involves the active use drones, high-precision weapons, well-protected stable communication channels with high bandwidth and electronic warfare. The US armed forces were the first to put into practice the concept of network-centric warfare in the late 90s.



In the network-centric warfare, the emphasis is on the effective work of the combat modules, and not on individual machines. “This“ new war ”suggests that tank duels no longer decide the outcome of the battle. The clash of tank divisions faded into the background, giving way to battles of combined combat groups, in which the tank, although very important, is only one of the components of the battle order, explains the deputy director general of the UVZ Vyacheslav Khalitov. - It is necessary to create autonomous, capable of operating independently combat modules, which would include the family of combat and support vehicles. But it should be a single unit. Of course, to effectively implement the specified characteristics in the "Armata", especially in the T-14 tank and the heavy infantry fighting vehicle T-15, it is necessary to change the forms and methods of their use. "

Landmark for competitors

After the appearance of “Almaty”, foreign manufacturers of military equipment seriously engaged in similar developments. According to media reports, the German corporation Krauss-Maffei Wegmann and the French Nexter are preparing to create a joint venture for the production of ground military equipment. Last year they said that in the near future they will be engaged in the creation of a new tank, which in the future will replace the French Leclerc and the German Leopard 2.

The UVZ is skeptical of reports of attempts to catch up with Russian developers, since they believe that they have outstripped their foreign colleagues by at least ten years.

The German edition of Stern writes that the latest developments of the Russian military-industrial complex will force Western countries to hurry with the modernization of the armies. According to the publication, the tank "Armata" T-14 is the first real innovation of Russia after the collapse of the USSR. At the same time, Armata uses the best achievements of Russian tank building - the tank is very fast and maneuverable.
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  1. +11
    15 October 2016 06: 55
    The title of the article is not the topic !!!!!!!!!!!
    1. +8
      15 October 2016 07: 33
      This is just a retelling of the old "Military Acceptance" with a gag laughing
      1. +5
        15 October 2016 20: 43
        It’s a pity to not put cons.
  2. +39
    15 October 2016 07: 23
    Here’s a good platform, but onolitegi spoil everything, as always ...
    Sorry, I could not stand it. For...
    So:

    The original silhouette, combined with the use of a special coating, significantly reduces the visibility of the machine in the thermal and radar spectra of observation.

    I do not know whose inflamed intellect gave birth to this nonsense, but this is nonsense.
    About the thermal range, everything is clear when we see the exhaust and grille. There is not even a hint of any shielding. And there is an opinion that this is impossible in principle. Physics, and her mother is science ... ICE on 1000 KW - it's still a hot thing. There will be thermal power at 3000 kW. Where are you hiding her?

    Regarding the RL range - no comment at all. Firstly, even an attempt to do something similar is simply not observed, and secondly, to reduce the radar signature of a tank (TANK, KARL!) Will not work out very well, and thirdly, but ... That is, for what, in fact? What, is this the main way to detect armored vehicles? How much will this increase combat effectiveness?


    The T-14 became the first tank in the world that fits perfectly into the concept of “network-centric warfare”, that is, it is intended, first of all, not for a single battle, but for work as part of a group of combat vehicles.

    ALL tanks were intended to work as part of a group of military vehicles... Starting with the English "rhombuses". I understand that this is news for someone, but nevertheless ...

    By the way, (EMNIP) the first tank, which was created for "network-centric war," was Leclerc.
    The first tank upgraded for the same is Abrams (surprisingly, right?)


    The UVZ is skeptical of reports of attempts to catch up with Russian developers, since they believe that they have outstripped their foreign colleagues by at least ten years.

    Uh-huh .. Fresh legend. Twelve years ago, some specialists, too, "through the lip" argued that "they will not catch up with us" in the field of active defense. As a result, Israel has long been putting its serial products even on field outhouses, while unparalleled developments still have no practical application. Apparently, so as not to frighten the enemy in advance.

    Well, for a snack:
    Armor "Almaty" is able to withstand the hit of any existing anti-tank weapons.

    It’s even embarrassing to ask if the author of this opus is familiar with all the existing means of combat. And so it is clear. I can offer, for example, AGM-65 Maverick. In the cumulative version, she only has 50 kilo warheads. What kind of armor can withstand this? Oleg Kaptsov knows the answer, but we're talking about tanks after all ...

    PS By the way, I am extremely surprised that this article does not say anything about the miracle AFAR, with the help of which the tank is able to shoot down almost airplanes from a cannon. Many people write ... about KAZ antennas ...

    Actually: I am very glad that Russia is creating new types of weapons. But I am very upset by the articles, the level of which does not correspond to the fact that VO, but also Cosmopolitan ... Honestly, gentlemen and comrades, it is impossible to read without tears ...
    1. +5
      15 October 2016 08: 02
      Well in the first two moments you are very wrong
      1. The thermal trail is hidden by a thermal casing and enhanced ventilation of the engine compartment and forced ventilation of the exhaust system. Such a system has long been used on airplanes.
      2. It is not necessary for the tank to become completely invisible, it is enough for it to be "not metallic" on the radars, so as not to stand out against the background of the earth. Radio-absorbing paints have been coping with this for a long time, and by choosing a paint with the desired properties, you can even make the radar transparent to radiation only in a certain range. Technology, again, came from aviation.
      3. marketing - such marketing =) I remember that until 2000 Abrams was also considered an invulnerable tank. However, the T-14 protection level is still the best in its class
      1. +6
        15 October 2016 08: 58
        Quote: Yuri Filatov
        1. The thermal trail is hidden by a thermal casing and enhanced ventilation of the engine compartment and forced ventilation of the exhaust system. Such a system has long been used on airplanes.

        Komrad is absolutely right. 1000 hp is 745 kW. Such an engine must be actively cooled, and not insulate. You can’t hide so much energy.

        Quote: Yuri Filatov
        2. It is not necessary for the tank to become completely invisible, it is enough for it to be "not metallic" on the radars, so as not to stand out against the background of the earth. Radio-absorbing paints have been coping with this for a long time, and by choosing a paint with the desired properties, you can even make the radar transparent to radiation only in a certain range. Technology, again, came from aviation.

        The tank reflective signal looks white against the background of the environment. The tank absorbing signal appears black against the background of the environment. It is impossible to hide the tank in motion even if its signature is 100% consistent with the background. hi
        1. +3
          15 October 2016 09: 35
          Quote: professor
          It is impossible to hide the tank in motion even if its signature is 100% consistent with the background.

          Unlike UAVs, isn't it. Those are invisible in any state and at any speed.
          1. +3
            15 October 2016 09: 43
            Quote: Spade
            Unlike UAVs, isn't it. Those are invisible in any state and at any speed.

            A tank-sized UAV cannot be hidden. Especially against the background of the earth. When a tank weighs a couple of kilos like a drone launched from a hand, ride on batteries, against the sky, it will be possible to talk about the stealth of the tank.
        2. +2
          15 October 2016 13: 00
          The tank reflective signal looks white against the background of the environment. The tank absorbing signal appears black against the background of the environment.

          So you need to pick up the paint so that it looks like a background of the environment. To be like a stone. Of course, a moving tank can’t get used to, but its detection range can be reduced.
          The same applies to engine heat, it cannot be completely hidden, but the detection range can be reduced significantly. but there are rumors that the exhaust of the Abrams tank can be detected from the satellite =)
          In addition, the internal combustion engine is not a computer, it turns its power into movement more than heat, the efficiency of a good internal combustion engine is about 50%. and even then 745 kW at its maximum power, it may not fully utilize it. And to dissipate 100kW of heat is not so difficult. I figured it out with a calculator, so the aphid of recycling 120kW of heat will have enough 16000m3 / h of air with heating it when utilizing heat by 20 degrees. What is not so bad and bad. I don’t know if GOS Javelina is able to visit a person with 5 km?
          1. +1
            15 October 2016 15: 15
            Quote: Yuri Filatov
            So you need to pick up the paint so that it looks like a background of the environment. To be like a stone. Of course, a moving tank can’t get used to, but its detection range can be reduced.

            Fixed tank - a dead tank with a dead crew.

            Quote: Yuri Filatov
            The same applies to engine heat, it cannot be completely hidden, but the detection range can be reduced significantly. but there are rumors that the exhaust of the Abrams tank can be detected from the satellite =)

            Where do you get the heat generated?

            Quote: Yuri Filatov
            In addition, the internal combustion engine is not a computer, it turns its power into movement more than heat, the efficiency of a good internal combustion engine is about 50%. and even then 745 kW at its maximum power, it may not fully utilize it.

            Show us the internal combustion engine on a tank with an efficiency of 50% and you will be nobel.

            Quote: Yuri Filatov
            And to dissipate 100kW of heat is not so difficult. I figured it out with a calculator, so the aphid of recycling 120kW of heat will have enough 16000m3 / h of air with heating it when utilizing heat by 20 degrees.

            The more active the dispersion, the farther the tank glows.

            Quote: Yuri Filatov
            What is not so bad and bad. I don’t know if GOS Javelina is able to visit a person with 5 km?

            When Jvelin learns to fly 5 km and will be sharpened by the amount of heat a person then we’ll talk.
          2. +1
            1 January 2017 03: 24
            You will not pick up. Unless you know how to chameleon, only in the infrared range, and with such a thermal power. Yes, even on the go. Do not mind it.
            The thermodynamics of a real body is not quite a task for high school, so I won’t scold you on this issue. But anyway - you are very far from reality, unfortunately. Or fortunately, it depends on whose tank and whose defense :)
          3. +1
            1 January 2017 07: 07
            Quote: Yuri Filatov
            The tank reflective signal looks white against the background of the environment. The tank absorbing signal appears black against the background of the environment.

            So you need to pick up the paint so that it looks like a background of the environment. To be like a stone. Of course, a moving tank can’t get used to, but its detection range can be reduced.
            The same applies to engine heat, it cannot be completely hidden, but the detection range can be reduced significantly. but there are rumors that the exhaust of the Abrams tank can be detected from the satellite =)
            In addition, the internal combustion engine is not a computer, it turns its power into movement more than heat, the efficiency of a good internal combustion engine is about 50%. and even then 745 kW at its maximum power, it may not fully utilize it. And to dissipate 100kW of heat is not so difficult. I figured it out with a calculator, so the aphid of recycling 120kW of heat will have enough 16000m3 / h of air with heating it when utilizing heat by 20 degrees. What is not so bad and bad. I don’t know if GOS Javelina is able to visit a person with 5 km?

            I'm drunk, of course .... but neighing ....! Yura Filatov, you are a worthy successor of Leni Filatov .... oh, I can’t ... I laugh ... laughing
        3. 0
          17 October 2016 16: 11
          Kamrad is wrong. The F-117 has two engines of 5 tons of thrust each (8 tons in afterburner), in total they give about 7450 hp or 4134 kilowatts of power. American engineers and designers. they are so stupid-s-s))))
          1. 0
            1 January 2017 03: 19
            He also has a quite noticeable thermal cloud, and a thermal loop. Despite the intense cooling in flight.
            The Czechoslovak "Tamara" from the 80s still works for this.
        4. 0
          1 January 2017 05: 58
          Quote: professor
          Komrad is absolutely right. 1000 hp is 745 kW. Such an engine must be actively cooled, and not thermally insulated. You can’t hide so much energy.

          bring the "banned", even though there is someone to chat with, and then, some "amateurs" .... - "hurray" - and into the hole .... with the New, Oleg! drinks
      2. +7
        15 October 2016 18: 59
        Guys! What a radio absorbing paint! Learn physics! Steel "cube" weighing 60 tons! During the exercises, in order to determine the location of a tank company with a compass on the map (there was no ZhePiES then), it was necessary to move half a kilometer from the tanks. The tank battalion is the Kursk magnetic anomaly. Has anyone heard of magnetic fields here? If the magnet is painted not in red-blue color, but with some special paint, will it not magnet? And about the thermal component ... After the march, you will laugh, but the hottest place in the tank is not the transmission, but the rubber tires on the rollers. And also dust on the march, footprints on the ground, and, again, IRON. Lots of IRON in one place. (And above the enemy satellites) If the submarine at a depth is calculated by the distortion of the magnetic field, then the tank unit cannot be hidden on the surface. So, analytics! Write about everything, just leave inconspicuousness in any spectrum and range alone. AND! Study physics carefully! The exam will not help here.
        1. 0
          15 October 2016 21: 17
          And how can a titanium submarine be identified by a magnetic signature?
          1. 0
            16 October 2016 08: 47
            on working generators and electric motors, and induction around internal cable routes
        2. 0
          1 January 2017 03: 30
          Yes, a tank company with running engines, for half a kilometer gives into the stomach through the ground, what about the rest ... :) And they still do not do anything - just wound up and warm up, they receive an order.
          1. +2
            1 January 2017 04: 42
            Quote: Alien
            Yes, a tank company with running engines, for half a kilometer gives into the stomach through the ground, what about the rest ... :) And they still do not do anything - just wound up and warm up, they receive an order.
            The company is half a kilometer away, but nothing, which does not warm up the engines, can already be written off. Since they will start hitting it from everything except anti-tank rocket grenades. She is already doomed. Therefore, tank troops go on the offensive from the depths, during the artillery preparation of the attack ... and try to feel and share the "tremor of the earth" there.
            1. +1
              1 January 2017 05: 33
              Really !? What are you saying, comrade Army General ...
              Since the beginning of the 80s, our battle order of the tank brigade was formed on the move, in separate vehicles, at the turn of the attack, without a concentration area at all. Prior to this, the brigade, which was both from the air and from the earth, looked like separate piles of scrap metal for several tens of square kilometers. The physical link was its own landing battalions, and the tasks they performed. In one such, the army began for me. Then there was little, yes ...
              Oh yes, what am I talking about. But do not tell me how and where to start it all, how to teach soldiers from scratch? But it’s like in the cinema - so that everyone knows and knows everything from the kindergarten - I did not succeed. So I had to clatter with the barracks, parade ground, parks, piles of cars together. The helicopter pilots who lurked with us also could not take us directly from the clave, since then they were not there. They dragged us mercilessly to their concrete floors, flew to us in pools also in packs.
              Then, in the case - I really didn’t see the congestion :) Except in the parade. And so - tank companies under pairs - very much happen. Occasionally, there are battalions, and not only on Red Square in early May.
              1. 0
                1 January 2017 10: 31
                Quote: Alien
                Since the beginning of the 80s, our battle order of the tank brigade was formed on the move, in separate vehicles, at the turn of the attack,

                What move? Where do these "separate machines" come from? Are you plotting a separate route for each of them, building a bridge over the obstacle? Yes, only SUCH preparatory work will ruin the whole thing, because I can't even imagine where to get so many engineering troops.
                Quote: Alien
                Prior to this, the brigade, which was both from the air and from the earth, looked like separate piles of scrap metal for several tens of square kilometers.

                So at the time of the nomination, it looks like that, as individual columns move, from line to line, more and more fragmented into small units. So that's nothing new.
                Quote: Alien
                Then, in the case - the truth did not see the cluster:

                And I had to see more than once. Usually, in order to protect against unnecessary losses, company columns, less often battalion ones.
            2. +1
              1 January 2017 06: 02
              Quote: svp67
              Therefore, tank troops advance from the depths during the offensive during the preparation of the attack ..

              drinks laughing Sega, you seem to be a good man, but unnecessarily "hurray" ... call .... so, by the way. drinks
              1. 0
                1 January 2017 06: 20
                Well, yes, during the artillery preparation, they will go a couple of kilometers. It means - before that they were under the mortars of others :)
                1. 0
                  1 January 2017 06: 28
                  Quote: Alien
                  before that lay under other people's mortars :)

                  nafik tactics, double swipe?
                  1. +1
                    1 January 2017 06: 41
                    And what, come on little!
                    I'm here on the New Year's Eve got bogged down, uncreated, and finally under some kind of "Tsarskaya". Not that much, but after the third - we do not complain.
                    For you! For you! So that this year they turn sour and we don’t have to wind the footcloths!
                    1. +1
                      1 January 2017 06: 43
                      Quote: Alien
                      I'm here on the New Year's Eve got bogged down, uncreated, and finally under some kind of "Tsarskaya". Not that much, but after the third - we do not complain.
                      For you! For you! So that this year they turn sour and we don’t have to wind the footcloths!

                      mnogabukaf ... simple -will be! drinks
                      1. +1
                        1 January 2017 06: 50
                        We will be! And so you are too!
                      2. 0
                        1 January 2017 07: 02
                        Catch:
                        https://youtu.be/b22YAkC8F1E
                        I did not find with short skirts (((
                2. 0
                  1 January 2017 10: 32
                  Quote: Alien
                  Well, yes, during the artillery preparation, they will go a couple of kilometers.

                  Actually, a few tens of kilometers, since the areas of concentration are usually located in non-damage zones of the barrel artillery
              2. 0
                1 January 2017 10: 20
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                Sega, you seem to be a good man, but unnecessarily "hurray" ... call .... so, by the way.

                I don't like it when "panzers" offend ...
                tongue
                HAPPY NEW YEAR! drinks
        3. 0
          1 January 2017 04: 37
          Quote: ingenera
          Has anyone heard of magnetic fields here?

          And did anyone hear about demagnetization systems? Entire battleships were demagnetized during World War II ...
          Quote: ingenera
          Well, if the submarine at a depth is calculated by the distortion of the magnetic field, then you won’t hide the tank unit on the surface

          And even if you don’t carry it out, then there is SUFFICIENT means to create a lot of false targets on the battlefield. And while the enemy understands where - what, one must have time to act.
          1. 0
            1 January 2017 06: 32
            :) And how much electricity to demagnetize you need to count?
            No, the task of demagnetizing a ship is fundamentally different. He just needs to stop being a piece of a strong magnet. A tank, on the other hand, is a perturbation of the magnetic field with respect to a uniform magnetic background of the area. To disguise, he will have to mow under the terrain. In other words, it’s fast and difficult to twist your field, and it’s multipolar. Another task.
            1. 0
              1 January 2017 10: 24
              Quote: Alien
              A tank, on the other hand, is a perturbation of the magnetic field with respect to a uniform magnetic background of the area. To disguise, he will have to mow under the terrain. In other words, it’s fast and difficult to twist your field, and it’s multipolar. Another task.

              Everything is much simpler ... Some sections of the terrain, suddenly, begin to change their magnetic background, and this is done by electronic warfare. So that the enemy creates an abstraction, in which he is forced to understand, and this is the time that he may not have enough for the organization of the battle.
              1. 0
                1 January 2017 10: 32
                Really?
                You sell for some penny some magnetic protection of keyholes against vandalism.
                Buy such a thing, consider, and report back to me.
                I will try to answer all of a sudden (!) Your questions.
          2. 0
            1 January 2017 06: 45
            Quote: svp67
            And did anyone hear about demagnetization systems? Entire battleships were demagnetized during World War II ...

            The hull is spotted, and then what? Electric motors live their lives, and their fields will not go anywhere.
            1. 0
              1 January 2017 10: 24
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              The hull is spotted, and then what? Electric motors live their lives, and their fields will not go anywhere.

              Yes, let them continue to live, if only they obey the will of man.
        4. 0
          1 January 2017 05: 47
          Radar absorbing paint is not a problem. It’s harder not to overdo it with radio override. As with IR. The problem is with the surrounding area, and with contrast.
    2. 0
      17 October 2016 14: 37
      It is not regrettable, but I completely agree with you. Armata is very PR. But its real combat survivability and combat capabilities are in question. Especially with regard to the ability to shoot down sub-caliber shells ... It is not clear why in Syria they will not test the first specimens.
      1. 0
        17 October 2016 15: 06
        This is not PR. This pathetic semblance of a loud fart. To pay attention. Not only that, information is zero and that of a year ago. Just talk about what to print. Until a new topic appears. And PR is a well-thought-out system. Immediately just retype from empty to empty. I do not think that the platform will be very different from the declared one, and the improvements will certainly continue throughout the line.
        1. 0
          1 January 2017 03: 42
          So fart, please, to your health under your blanket.
          A single tip of a weapon without optics is a technological breakthrough only in between. Behind this are the creepy mathematics, physics, and neuroscience that have solved problems that you don’t even suspect. From what actually, and the main fright of competitors. They still draw iron. But the algorithms - only by betrayal, or by the prescription of years.
          1. 0
            April 22 2017 14: 05
            Remote-controlled towers now only the lazy one does not.
  3. +7
    15 October 2016 08: 13
    I read the title of the article, smiled
    Let me think I read, porzhu, raise my mood.
    ...
    Did not work out.
    This is not a funny article at all, and not even an interesting fairy tale, but ... complete mediocrity.
    In the military-industrial complex, they probably typed it out of boredom, so that the name of the letters should not be forgotten, but the clave should not be forgotten.
    And IN reposted her ..
    What for ?
    request
    1. 0
      17 October 2016 23: 20
      Why is it so terrible? Is the hero of the article really ...
      1. 0
        1 January 2017 03: 50
        Hardly. But the presentation is definitely worthless. Well, stupidly under the "sales manager".
        1. 0
          1 January 2017 06: 10
          Quote: Aleks tv
          Did not work out.

          Lyoshka! it happens! "misfires" happen! Yes it doesn’t matter ... most importantly, you are alive, and the gunner too, so pour it! drinks right now, we will "namahnem" and will receive ...! ... Lyosha, Prived, glad that You are in the Saddle, Specialoff-little, mostly "sofa", come on, for the "old guard", - drinks I could not get through to the "partisan" "and" Zheki ", but I still hug everyone. (slightly, like a man's fist on the back)))) we will ... Varonesh ... drinks
  4. +6
    15 October 2016 08: 15
    That is when our army will have enough UAVs of different classes and types, when our reconnaissance space groups will work at full power, when our soldiers will be fully equipped with the same Ratnik kits, and when not 100 T-14, but 1000,2000,3000 will be released in the series , 15, and in addition to them, T-16, T-XNUMX, Coalition-SV, Kurgan and Boomerangs will be available in the same quantity, then it will be possible to seriously talk about the possibility of waging a network-centric war ... but now it is only statements but not opportunities.
    1. Cat
      +1
      15 October 2016 08: 51
      Down and Out trouble started!
      You have to start somewhere.
    2. 0
      15 October 2016 18: 57
      This is from the opera: "If only mushrooms grew in my mouth"
  5. +10
    15 October 2016 08: 21
    I, too, are already wildly straining these leavened slogans "the best", "unparalleled", etc., just what an article on the topic of modern Russian technology, so there are more epithets than specifics. What is the article about? Where is the specifics? Where are the tests? So we were 20 years behind in electronics (the main component of any modern system), and now we have created something that simply amazed everyone. AFAR we have the best? I honestly do not know, the same GE creates medical and industrial systems based on PAR (ultrasound, they have about the same principle) and I have not seen Russian ultrasound in any medical institution. I am very glad that we are creating something new and exclusive, but this chatter is already tired.
    1. 0
      15 October 2016 18: 59
      I completely agree: an empty empty chatter is already annoying
    2. +4
      17 October 2016 14: 56
      And now, apart from "Ur-Patriotism" ostentatious Russia is proud of something and nothing. This is sad ... Sports below the plinth, education and medicine too. Doctors plow for 3 rates 6 days a week, teachers go into business, retirees are holding on. Agricultural raiders seize, especially in the south of the country. The tractor column did not reach Moscow, the National Guard tied it up. Kiselev zombies the population on Saturdays. But our military equipment - "DOES NOT HAVE ANALOGUES IN THE WORLD"!))
      1. 0
        1 January 2017 06: 51
        Quote: minirulet
        pensioners hold on.

        (mat) ... we have nowhere to go, (mat) we, as Panfilov’s, we’ll leave, the border will collapse .. (mat). therefore, to death .... soldier
  6. +3
    15 October 2016 08: 23
    Unfortunately, exactly how the tank is arranged on the Armata platform is not described in the article. request
    A set of amateurish fashion slogans: tank duels, network centrism, the use of tanks as part of "combined battle groups", as if the German generals Guderian, Gepner and others were not such masters of such use and, later, Soviet Rybalko, Katukov, etc. more 70 years ago.
    And "network centrism" simply simply reflects the revolution in communications, which allows many times to speed up the transfer of the necessary information, but this "centrism" is more concerned with command posts, headquarters, and not MBT and BMP, because the BTGr or a separate tank or TV has different tasks.
  7. +19
    15 October 2016 08: 31
    Administration, return the "cons" articles.
    1. +2
      15 October 2016 09: 55
      Quote: professor
      Administration, return the "cons" articles.


      Again, I disagree. Rejection of the "cons" is a bold step forward. In this respect, the "administration" of the site is just great. "Minus" is a weapon of a fool or a coward. One cannot formulate an objection, the other is afraid to do so. But both of them can shit with impunity.
      And now, I do not agree - if you please speak up. "So that everyone's foolishness is visible." Or sit on your butt straight.
      1. +6
        15 October 2016 10: 32
        Quote: stoker
        Rejection of the "cons" is a bold step forward.

        Yeah. Lack of audience feedback is a "bold step forward". so to speak, I write for myself, but whoever doesn't like it, let him ... request
        1. +1
          15 October 2016 10: 54
          Quote: professor

          Yeah. Lack of audience feedback is a "bold step forward". so to speak, I write for myself, but whoever doesn't like it, let him ... request


          "Feedback" ... Well, well ...
          An article or opinion of a person is not a diaper or a lighter. It does not score in the plus or minus categories.
          1. +2
            15 October 2016 11: 23
            Quote: stoker
            "Feedback" ... Well, well ...
            An article or opinion of a person is not a diaper or a lighter. It does not score in the plus or minus categories.

            Right That is why an article can be rated. In this case, only positive. laughing

            Nevertheless, the assessment is one of the important criteria for the quality of the site along with traffic. Apparently the administration knows better. request
            1. AUL
              +2
              15 October 2016 12: 43
              Administration, return the blacklist! And then some enthusiasts are already sick of it!
            2. +2
              15 October 2016 12: 56
              [quote = professor] [quote = stoker]

              Right That is why an article can be rated. In this case, only positive. laughing [/ Quote]

              Exactly. Correctly noted. "Plus" should be. Because "plus" (or something similar) is not an assessment of an article or opinion. This is not a literary institute with its grades. This is an expression of OWN position to what is written in the article. "Plus" - you completely agree with her. What else to say?
              But the "minus" is more complicated. It can be "pressed" for a thousand different reasons. Without even reading the article. "Minus" sometimes becomes an instrument of psychological pressure and even terror.
              Therefore, consent can be "compressed". And disagreement is only "deployed".
              Only in this way is a "feedback" between the author and the audience established. "So many people completely agree with me, and so many people are against (for such and such reasons)."

              Questions of the commercial attractiveness of the site are of little interest to me, the user. You can discuss the topic as important for you as for any Israeli citizen directly with the Administration.

              And, in general - the world turned upside down. I, Russian, to you, a Jew, explain the basics of "democracy" and "freedom of speech". And you, a Jew, convince me, a Russian, that "... who is not with us is against us ...".
              And - "minus" to him. Anonymous. As a "shortcut".
              1. +2
                15 October 2016 14: 21
                Fear of cons - do not write articles with comments))
            3. 0
              16 October 2016 14: 03
              Do not give ratings, professor wink
              And all will be happy laughing
        2. 0
          1 January 2017 09: 12
          Quote: professor
          Lack of audience feedback is a "bold step forward".

          not .. Oleg, .. here is the lack of an "air" bag on the VAZ 2110 - wow, this is bold, although not critical, a "torpedo" 2106 flew into my bochin, led by an experienced killer pilot, with 3 days of experience, the result is a passenger I did not understand what IT was, although the door was in the trash, and the second, too, along with the rear wing .... who said that the VAZ is not reliable? The passenger did not understand what IT was, (I just had to apologize and ask to catch another ride) the tank did not burst, although the neck was demolished to the plane, and other amenities. Not the topic, of course, but as an example, a "bold" step car industry ... wink laughing
    2. 0
      15 October 2016 19: 04
      I agree, provided that the minus must be justified. and not set according to the principle: "Something I don't like this goose!"
  8. +3
    15 October 2016 09: 18
    I haven’t read anything new! request
  9. +3
    15 October 2016 09: 28
    Quote: Mik13
    The UVZ is skeptical of reports of attempts to catch up with Russian developers, since they believe that they have outstripped their foreign colleagues by at least ten years.
    Uh-huh .. Fresh legend. Twelve years ago, some specialists, too, "over the lip" argued that "they will not catch up with us" in the field of active defense. AT

    Actually, the cap-taker wrote an article.
    Who would write an article how many specialists trained workers at the UVZ?
    Earlier, UVZ had several vocational schools and the Mash College, preparing specialists for the plant,
    sent to institutes from the factory and paid factory scholarships to students.
    From first hand I know how hard the T90 was, due to the lack of qualified specialists in machine tools, welders, foundry workers, because they ran into trading stalls
    There were no problems with kindergartens, the issue was quite tolerably solved with apartments.
    People at the factory went to work with desire and worked for years.
    1. 0
      17 October 2016 14: 59
      By the way, and not "UVZ" has recently filed for bankruptcy? And Mr. Rogozin himself yelled, "Give the plant back to Rostec?" Otherwise, we will not see the vaunted Armat.
  10. 0
    15 October 2016 09: 31
    "Armata's armor is capable of withstanding any existing anti-tank weapon."

    Well I do not know! Ukrainians have already knocked out one.
    1. +2
      15 October 2016 12: 43
      yeah, with a pistol, they can only strike down liners, here they have no equal
    2. 0
      1 January 2017 03: 58
      As one, say several, read it yourself.
      Even before rolling out the first prototype at the landfill.
  11. +1
    15 October 2016 09: 39
    Armor "Almaty" is able to withstand the hit of any existing

    After this pearl, the article should be treated as an advertising booklet, and not as a serious analytical machine evaluating the REAL capabilities of the machine.
  12. +8
    15 October 2016 10: 10
    Quote: tundra
    People at the factory went to work with desire and worked for years.

    Even with the union, there were piece specialists in certain operations,
    which was difficult to replace with anyone, and this is in the mass training of specialists.
    And even if this is a fully automatic equipment, well, a person must clearly understand the processes that take place, so that they can correct the machine in time
    What struck me at the factory at that time was the fact that almost every machine operator had reference books in his bedside table on a separate shelf and he was speaking on equal terms as part of his operation, competently speaking with any engineer.
    If there are UVZs then they may know, workshop 760-765 is Uncle Lenya Yushkova,
    tank noses cooked on a welding machine, the first opera when assembling the hull.
    Which even the ministry knew.
    I myself heard the order of the Minister (during the inspection of the new 765c) to make a ladder higher to Lenya of short stature.
    Design and issue prototypes, this is not 100%,
    start producing a mass series need competent specialists with a high culture of production
    which must be prepared for more than one year, this is a pancake not slap managers, managers.
    And then we have some here all blowing fanfare, it would be interesting to read how many trained turners, welders and how much they get in the presence of 4-6 categories.
    Could they, in their days off for five in Sochi to fly to sunbathe, in our time could.
    1. +3
      15 October 2016 20: 33
      The USSR collapsed not because of traitors, but because the Soviet economy was unable to withstand the American-imposed arms race. And now on the same rake? Are they smart? Maybe, first, create your own industry, machine-tool industry, for example, competitive in the world, introduce effective anti-corruption laws and punishments, as in Singapore, if you lack your brains (this is fraught with the fact that someone will overthrow someone). To put things in order in your economy without injecting oil and gas into the budget, and then, only to go super? Otherwise, it turns out that some artists and clowns have summer cottages on Rublevka and the floor of Russia is fenced off, while some have "no money, but you hold on."
      1. 0
        1 January 2017 04: 03
        In economic terms, the social system fell apart not because of the race, nor because of the lack of bananas. Stop chasing a blizzard, a fellow countryman - a European. There the problem was the lack of accounting depreciation of the means of production, do not la la about the fundamental effectiveness of private capital.
  13. +2
    15 October 2016 10: 41
    blah blah blah blah blah blah blah armastelikiytankhauyavses
    showed up.
  14. 0
    15 October 2016 10: 55
    the fire control system provides the ability to manually control the gun and fire


    How's that? crying
  15. +1
    15 October 2016 11: 10
    Quote: professor
    Administration, return the "cons" articles.

    Minuses, as a rule, are used by "trolls" and other evil readers. Moreover, they also form groups (agree) and produce group minus, while they do not care what a person writes, they are guided by group agreements and, like an evil flock of hyenas, "shit".
    Do you want that?
    1. AUL
      0
      15 October 2016 12: 58
      I wrote already, but I repeat. Cons must be returned, but put minus d. only possible when writing a rationale. But it is necessary to remove epaulettes, instead of them indicate ministatistics for the character - the number of written comments, as well as the number of received and delivered pros and cons. This will give a much clearer idea of ​​the character than paper epaulets!
      And return the blacklist, pliiiz!
    2. 0
      15 October 2016 19: 09
      Reasonable minus! And I have never seen really good material here. Well, there are not so many "trolls" in our country in general and on our website, in particular
    3. +1
      15 October 2016 19: 57
      And you want the other group to fool the Russian people with a hat-and-patriotic bluff. and naturally "they are guided by group agreements and, like an evil flock of hyenas," crap "RUSSIA. Since when do Russians have RUSSIA and the country's leadership are the same? RUSSIA, like other states, was famous for the fact that not only slaves who believed in rulers lived in it, but also those who think with their own heads, for example Ulyanov-Lenin
    4. 0
      17 October 2016 15: 02
      I agree. No cons are needed. Here on the site "Behind the Wheel" try to write at least something bad about "AvtoVAZ" ... ooo will be declared an enemy of the people and a traitor and throw 1000 minuses. And the person just said his opinion.
  16. +2
    15 October 2016 11: 24
    I hope that smart and far-sighted people rule the country. Almost simultaneously with the construction and the beginning of widespread ARMAT advertising, the Word of Tanks game was quietly promoted on the Internet. Having looked at the monitor screen a couple of times, we can conclude that the game is a simulator for driver mechanics, gunners - operators and operators of battle control centers. You can’t say anything, preliminary training of thousands of crews is cleverly conceived!
    1. 0
      15 October 2016 14: 48
      Colleague, WoT was promoted even before the presentation of Armata, especially the manufacturer of the game Belarus. Then the "Armata project" appeared, a competitor of WoT, in which I don’t presume to say the fundamental difference, but I will say that these business projects do not pull up to simulators and will never become one! But interest in the armored forces is booming, I speak as a player of 13 thousand battles. hi
      1. 0
        15 October 2016 19: 13
        Friends, come to your senses a real tank (even from the times of the First World War) - you are not a computer game
  17. +1
    15 October 2016 12: 03
    I wonder where this so-called "data" is sucked from?
  18. 2-0
    +1
    15 October 2016 12: 19
    Eh, the greatest desire is to read the materials of the field tests. Well, this is when the "Armata" tandem ATGM, shells, grenades, "Cliffs", from helicopters, undermining under the bottom of the mines soaked ... Although, maybe there were no tests, the parade and in a series.
    Not with the aim of handing over to the enemies, the enemies already know everything, but with the aim of seeing whether the developers will be imprisoned for trash or shouting "Hurray".
  19. 0
    15 October 2016 14: 30
    kg / am
    why did i read this?
  20. +1
    15 October 2016 14: 34
    All these articles about Armata are nonsense.
    Nobody can know anything about it, for it is a military secret.
    And here already all who are not too lazy are satisfied with comparative tests. There is only one laugh.
  21. +1
    15 October 2016 15: 24
    The article was not impressed, vague and "watery", as for me. You can learn more about its structure from the title photo of "Armata" than from the article! I liked the booking scheme published by the Author - I had never seen it before. But in the next picture, the footnotes "fire control systems" caused my bewilderment, vividly recalling the bearded anecdote about "the Buryats, however, do not do that" ... well, okay, the technique is new and helluva lot secret ...
    Extensive author's "discourses" about "network-centric wars" and "groups" are generally masterpieces and have nothing to do with the topic stated in the title.
    If it were not for the scheme of probable booking (in which the "weak" rear of the turret and the "stepped" bottom of the hull draw attention to themselves), I would be completely disappointed after reading it - the article does not correspond to its name by 90 percent.
    PS My first impression of the demonstrated "Armata" was surprise - this tank seemed so tall and awkward to me, completely knocking out the "squat" concept of Soviet tank building ... I still cannot get rid of this impression, although I understand that the crew, Probably, it is not as cramped as before, and the modernization potential, due to the internal volumes, is higher?
    1. 0
      1 January 2017 04: 13
      By the way, I also amused about the "group" :) And what when they knock out half of the group? Or a stray bullet will knock the antenna down.
      Some people need to read old books. Even before the war, they forgot the position of the Combat Regulations "single soldier", and it’s time to introduce it back. At least - as the development of "small subdivisions" and other special forces. It will be no stranger to the tanks, since they, too, have already become supermen. Or supertanks, you can't figure it out.
  22. 0
    15 October 2016 19: 07
    The author, apparently, works part-time at the Malysh publishing house and wrote an article for children, but mistakenly brought it here
  23. 0
    15 October 2016 19: 12
    And the pictures are funny! it remains only the thickness of the armor in mm to indicate the material. To confirm the title of the article. And then: how it works ...
  24. 0
    15 October 2016 22: 52
    Where are the normal professional articles? One populism and transfusion from empty to empty. Stop advertising the tank. It is certainly good that ours did it but it is a pity to waste time on such water. Thanks to such articles, everyone has already learned the facts that are here. And the smart words hesitated.
  25. 0
    16 October 2016 01: 24
    What kind of articles went? No information at all. Continuous slogans from the brochure and kartiinki, of course kaaartinki. request
    1. +2
      16 October 2016 09: 00
      to disseminate sensible information nezya, there is what is in the open press, otherwise it will turn out like in the cartoon "Robbery in Italian", another matter is the generalization of the material and analytics of this article. and some outright nonsense spoil the article so vosche, BUT, we are reading, discussing, quite an article for discussion, so skat, threw a bone, gnaw, and we gnaw, quite deliberately
      1. 0
        17 October 2016 14: 58
        Sensible infa should be. Perhaps secret but it should be written what is secret. And in secrecy we in Soviet times outplayed a bit. How to summarize information? In the field?
  26. 0
    17 October 2016 14: 45
    The site, it seems, is thematic and people are not reading for the first time. Well, do not write in articles about (.... has no analogues). A tank is a tank and its analogues are other tanks! Write that the layout is not classic or anything else. The article is purely propaganda in praise. If you read American articles or European or Chinese, then you are not so surprised. Take for example a commercial like Influenza or Eurofaiters destroy packs of Su-35
    1. 0
      1 January 2017 04: 21
      And the other day I came across a long one, with a rhetorical question "will the S-400 division, attacked by a pair of F-22s survive?" With formulas, already in the fourth root of a smart fraction. No, it's all true, just half-truth. The answer was unequivocal - no :)
  27. 0
    17 October 2016 16: 12
    The F-117 has two engines of 5 tons of thrust each (8 tons of afterburner), in total they give about 7450 hp or 4134 kilowatts of power. American engineers and designers. they are so stupid-s-s))))
  28. 0
    19 October 2016 05: 23
    Again, excessive chatter, negating the effect of surprise. The less the potential knows, the better. What do we have? Everyone has already been warned about the appearance of this tank. Someone already has a commercial itch. All this will lead to the zeroing of the achieved results, and, ultimately, to the country's security.
  29. 0
    19 October 2016 18: 39
    The main thing is that we are being caught up, not us.
  30. 0
    21 October 2016 06: 36
    I’m reading comments and it’s as if I’ve got into a kindergarten, they want to make the tank invisible, it’s not clear why, it’s not a sniper to hide in the bushes, the main function of a tank in a full-scale war is to break open the enemy’s defenses and why it needs your invisibility, but against the birds KAZ needs to be repelled, destroyed at the expense of the javelins, there are heat traps that can be attached to the tank in the cart, and the tire can be pulled to the edge of the tank, in the attack, of course, and I'll look at what signature your favorite javelin will bite
    1. 0
      1 January 2017 04: 56
      Yes, it’s good to be invisible in war, but what’s not working out ...
      He said about Dima, and remembered how they found a tank from one tank regiment :) There my friend was the commander of a repair platoon. They had exercises, someone broke down, the tow truck dragged along, the company left, the crew escaped with it, and everyone forgot about everything. My Sasha, I forgot too. In the evening they repaired the tank, but where to go - there was no order. Far from home, strange places, the radio network has already been dismantled - the exercises are over. They did not dare to just shove among the civilians. And all around the field, autumn, not a person, not a soul. They began to selflessly die, for three days only frozen tomatoes and onions forgotten by the peasants. Then, out of desolation, in order to keep warm, they lit the oiled rags. Stormtroopers flew into the smoke, where they had a bombing range nearby. They saw a tank under the smoke and were horrified. Whom did we ply n..x bombed, who, bitch..ry !, and finally. They reported on the radio and left. Their regiment commander put a pistol to his temple with one hand, with the other he phoned the district "Who lost the tank?" Everyone happily said that they have all at home.
      Drugan was lucky, his friend was on duty in their regiment. There was a report on the standard engine firing after field repair according to routing No. 57. This is the fortress of moonshine in the folder with the report.
  31. 0
    21 October 2016 10: 10
    The article is nothing new. To the author minus.
  32. 0
    21 October 2016 14: 38
    Article slag reporter
  33. 0
    2 November 2016 12: 50
    The platform may not be bad, but aesthetically ugly tank turned out .. With such a high tower. = (
  34. 0
    9 December 2016 21: 41
    UVZ in an attempt to not go bankrupt due to loans to Alpha Bank, has boiled this nonsense called Armata.

    Invulnerable invisible tank


    1. Under the number three on the tank layout diagram there are tanks, it would be impossible to imagine more idiocy if they weren’t and the tanks were arranged according to the standard principle distributed throughout the hull, like the T-55, T-64, plus they carried the stern of the vehicle as BMP-1 \ 2 but under armor as protection against a cumulative grenade, the length of the T-14 was reduced by exactly one track roller, including the weight of the machine would have decreased by at least three tons and amounted to about 46 tons.
    2. Accordingly, the tank’s maneuverability would increase, and so the Armata’s maneuverability is inferior to all the tanks of the Soviet school from T-55 to T-80 \ 90.
    3. Without a tower tank, it assumes the absence of any equipment other than a tower and a re-camera.
    And on Armata it’s nonsense .. three German cougars firing for five seconds, 45 degrees to the left of the nose, 45 degrees to the right and into the side of the tower, each with an interval of half a minute, will permanently disable Armata, and if it gets in the moment of reloading the gun then the combat unit generally detonates. Since a 50 mm NATO shell from 2000 meters pierces more than 120 mm of homogeneous armor.

    Read how Kotin upgraded the T-28 in the 30s of the last century ?????? FIRST TIME HE DECREASED T-28 TANK LENGTH. THIS IS NOT EVEN T-34 .....
    Karl ..... it was before the war .... 80 YEARS BACK. And here in the 21st century to concoct such a layout, no words.
    Remove already this Wunder Wafe from the site ..
    1. 0
      9 December 2016 21: 44
      3. Without a tower tank, it assumes the absence of any equipment other than a tower and a re-camera.

      A typo, I’ll correct it except for the GUN, that is, the frontal projection is absent altogether.