How to put the question of territorial defense in Russia?

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How long a state exists, so much is the question of the defense of border areas. What kind of solutions to this question was not offered! From military settlements to the Cossack villages. From the equipped lines of defense to the framed parts of the army. The problem was, is and will be. And this applies not only to Russia, all these problems are valid for any state whose territory is larger than the territory of the average Russian region.





An exception to the general rule, we did not. There is a state. There are boundaries. And that means there is a problem. Regions where there are no border areas cope well with the mobilization plan. "Guerrillas" obediently go "to fees" in military units. Regularly drink vodka. Sometimes they are engaged in combat training or driving combat vehicles. What to take with them ... Guerrillas.

For several years now, our Ministry of Defense has been trying to form parts of territorial defense. And so it happened. In Sevastopol formed 47 division THEN! Make no mistake, 47-i is just a name. In fact, the first division. And the only one. The division was created in the Crimea and includes the Crimean "partisans" and quite a few "aliens". In theory, in a perilous period, all these "partisans" will unite to defend the borders.

Of course, no one will chase the division to the front. Their task is to protect the objects of the Crimea. Security and defense. Therefore, small weapon and mortars - that's the whole set of weapons. If necessary, reservists will participate in antiterrorist operations and disaster management. Immediately I recall the famous American film "Rambo". The essence of territorial defense is shown there. "National Guard", if in American. "

It is clear that some of the readers are now sadly sigh. Why again plant a garden when there was a fully operational mobilization system in the USSR. "Guerrillas" poured into existing parts and connections. These units were deployed to wartime states. And then they performed the tasks exactly the same.

Remember the liquidators of the Chernobyl accident. Remember the first three or four months of the Afghan war. Soldiers, sergeants and officers summoned from the reserve fulfilled the task with honor, sometimes at the cost of their lives. I recall the driver's grandfather from one of the districts of the Surkhandarya region of the UzSSR. He famously twisted the steering wheel almost newcomer ZIL-131. And I always answered the question about Afghanistan: “I have been there for three months. Immediately after 63 turned year.” It turned out that, besides the people, the military registration and enlistment offices also called for equipment. Naturally, the ZIL-131 fell under the appeal. New, about which this grandfather dreamed of years. So it hit the first wave of the Soviet troops on the new ZiL. And he returned to it.

If we take the Soviet system as a basis, then we lose one of the main functions of territorial defense. Security! Any military unit at the time of the special period has certain tasks. And these tasks are not always performed in the region of residence. Moreover, often parts go to areas of concentration.

A modern city is a concentration of many hazardous objects and industries. Water supply systems, warehouses, cold storage facilities, gas stations, gas supply systems. The list is endless. But all these objects are the desired goal of saboteurs and their accomplices. To deprive the modern metropolis of electricity will mean an almost complete collapse. I remember the old story in Moscow. When the electricity suddenly turned off in the eastern and south-eastern regions. Moscow got up. I'm not talking about residential buildings, enterprises, hospitals. It was enough that the traffic lights stopped working. Transport does not work. The main Moscow transport artery - the metro does not work. No connection. Phones do not work. None Collapse.

The need for such units is obvious. But how to achieve this?

For the third year in the course of various exercises, we see attempts to quickly form such parts. In the year 2014 even happened. Then, during the command and staff exercises "Vostok-2014" in the Khabarovsk Territory, a battalion of 350 people was deployed. And even relocated it to Kamchatka.

And the very next year, at the command-staff exercises Center-2015 in the Samara region, there was an attempt to form a TO division. True loud name hid in itself only fifteen hundred personnel. But really came to the place of service a little more than 600.

By the way, these teachings revealed another problem. As it turned out, the “defencists” had completely forgotten how to settle down on their own. Without the help of regular army servicemen, they failed to do this.

Is it possible today to create complete parts of MOT in the shortest period? How to make people abandon the acquired benefits of civilization for some time of their own will? After all, maintenance requires not only soldiers, but also officers. And for the most part these are people occupying certain positions, responsible for certain areas of work, and quite well-to-do.

Or not fully secured, but, nevertheless, caring for their income. And, by the way, the employer today will also have to ask if he agrees that his employee be a member of the TO department.

I apologize, but the realities of today are such that in order to pass a session in the correspondence course, people often have to either take time off, or write without content. With the rarest exception, the problems of advanced training and education are problems and hemorrhoids exclusively by the employee. The employer does not care about this twice.

Practice shows by analogy that, apart from the soldiers and officers of the MOT, this should be no less interested in them and those on whom the material well-being of these fighters depends. And here problems of the state plan are possible.

In Soviet times, we used the old army principle: “If you can’t, we can teach, if you don’t want, we make.” A good, powerful word is a must! And those who did not understand this, got acquainted with the nearest prosecutor's office. But at the time it was permissible. Mobilization resource was sufficient. What can not be said about the present time.

If we declare capitalism, then the approach to the formation of territorial defense should be the same. The soldier and officer of these forces should have significant benefits! And material, and for the future.

And here immediately problems are drawn that can hardly be circumvented.

Since the charges in such units must be held annually, it is necessary to officially establish the payment of these charges. Not some mythical "average salaries in the region" or "daily wages", but specific amounts. Such that the "partisan" ceased to feel like a partisan. And I felt a soldier and an officer of the real part.

But nobody will cancel the problem of high-quality personnel selection. A good specialist, normally arranged on site, is unlikely to risk his place in favor of these fees. Here even we are talking not about the specialist, but about his employer.

Who, tell me, in the world of our capitalist relations, will you like the prospect of a monthly absence of a key specialist? Excuse me, the monthly vacation in our time is rare, employers prefer to give out in chunks.

How to solve the problem is not yet clear.

Further, in parts of TO, it is necessary to move away from the military system of the all-on-one ULA. For the regular army, it is necessary. But for territories it is harmful. The head of the security service of a large enterprise, having an army, received an 20 years ago XYL shooter, is much more competent than a sergeant with YNS squad leader of the same "release".

Moreover, today it is extremely rare to meet a person who works in an area that at least somewhat resembles his military service. It is necessary to appoint officers in accordance with the position that he occupies in the "citizen". Specialists who do not have an officer’s rank can be skipped through courses for junior lieutenants. Unless of course there is a basic higher or secondary special education.

Understanding that the difference in incomes today is quite substantial, which means that it is impossible to fully compensate for the losses of the “territory” on a mandatory basis, it is necessary to introduce benefits in the pension system. Let a year or two, five. But the retirement age for such soldiers should be lowered. Again, subject to being in the service for a specific period. Let it be 15-20 years.

Today in the documents of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation a new abbreviation appeared - OR. Organizational reserve. That is, those soldiers and officers of the reserve, which, when announcing mobilization, will be the backbone of the unit, unit. These soldiers clearly know not only their units or subunits, but also undergo regular coordination, they know their commanders and chiefs, subordinates.

Such an experiment has already begun last year. The "reserve" sign a special contract with the Ministry of Defense, according to which they periodically undergo training in a military unit, mastering new equipment, new types of weapons. But not for free. The Ministry of Defense pays monthly to such fighters from 5 to 8 thousands of rubles. Regardless of where the fighter is located. In the army tent or at home on the couch watching hockey.

Moreover, a whole management system has been developed for such a reserve. But to speak today about its implementation is early. The reason is commonplace. Lack of funding. Simply put, there is no money and will not be in the near future. Hence, it is still necessary to proceed from the existing possibilities. Those about whom I wrote above.

And the last point that I would like to draw the attention of readers. From whom to complete parts MOT? Who can enter the organizational core?

Today, there are quite a lot of young reserve officers from among graduates of higher educational institutions and higher educational institutions, which are quite suitable for serving in technical careers due to their state of health and moral character. In addition, military units are annually transferred to the reserve a lot of fully trained soldiers and sergeants. Here is the environment from which you can recruit more than one division. In any region of Russia.

It is necessary to work with these people. Recruitment offices should actively recruit them to the service. Offer contracts. Let not long. Three to five years. But this will be enough for the "promotion" of the proposed territorial defense system of the Defense Ministry.

Honestly, I have huge doubts about the credibility of the victorious reports on the creation of an 47 TO division. Even the patriotism that goes off the peninsula cannot meet the needs of such a division. Connection, even THAT, requires a huge structure to ensure its activities. As I understand it, this is a pilot project. The sample, which will "run in" offers and innovations.

However, to create this division, we had to recruit personnel in the Voronezh, Rostov regions and Krasnodar Krai. And at the first collection of the division, the personnel from these areas were decreasing on airplanes. Luxurious in terms of costs, but apparently there was no other option.

Crimean Crimeanism is great, but the level of training in the Armed Forces of Ukraine is very different from the level of training of the RF Armed Forces. I had to “fiddle” with more or less trained personnel.

In order to provide defense activities during the war period, a million of territorial defense soldiers are enough for a million-plus megalopolis 15-25. Thus, approximately 100-150 thousand are in the county. Not so huge numbers. And for the whole of Russia and generally miserable - from 400 to 600 thousands of people. Approximately as necessary and sufficient number of experts. But in monetary terms, the minimum amount does not look so optimistic. The amount is displayed with a dozen zeros ...

By itself, the idea of ​​creating troops of territorial defense seems to be useful. In case of real hostilities and possible sabotage. However, questions of recruitment, organization, procurement, device and financing call this idea into question.

Yes, the headquarters of the TO troops have already been created. The commanding generals are already sitting in their places with all the ensuing consequences. There is information that there is already a plan for the creation and development of service units, and even the commanders of these units have been appointed. Things are easy: to recruit personnel, to provide weapons and equipment and start the very thing for which everything was started. That is, the training of personnel.

However, there are certain doubts about the results of this experiment.

It seems that territorial defense units are necessary. It is for the protection and defense of important facilities in conditions when units of the regular army will be engaged in their direct business. But important objects and so are protected, even in peacetime. Gain? Good. Accept. Even leaving behind the scenes that "if anything happens," territorials will have to deal with a specially trained and trained opponent.

But in any case, the functioning of such units does not end with the appointment of a commander. There should be a staff responsible for weapons, ammunition, equipment, food, medicine and so on. That is, again, an increase in states that will require something? That's right, salary. And everything else that is associated with "the burden and deprivation of military service."

It is somehow doubtful that the 11 months in the year will be part closed, and only for the time of fees open arms for reservists. So, we need warehousing services, the financial part, the protection of all property, and so on.

The question arises: where does the money come from?

And it arises not from scratch, but solely from observations of price changes in the country as a whole and of individual regions in particular. And the changes are not downward. Plus, all the latest statements from the government about the crisis, the budget deficit, the requirements for increasing taxes and other pleasures.

In short, there is no money, but you hold on there.

We hold on there. There is no question. Questions only in the direction of "how long." And in this perspective, having fun with Rosgvardia looks a bit weird. Nobody sounded what numbers it would cost us. And it will cost us. But - hold on.

Policemen and others from the Ministry of Internal Affairs 160 thousands were removed, transferred to other places, apparently changed into different uniforms. Okay, hold on. It is necessary - it means it is necessary.

Now the MGB will be made from everyone in a row - FSB, FSO, FSKN and others. Probably useful too. The KGB somehow coped in the good old days. We are not discussing it either.

Territorial defense. And also, it seems, the thing is not harmful at least. Neighbors, even from our allies, this problem is no longer solved for years, decades ...

But the feeling is a bit strange. Either we are seriously planning to fight with someone, or just the money has nowhere to go.
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  1. +3
    22 September 2016 06: 14
    I believe that the issue of financing is in the first place. Nobody will go for the slogans "hurray" and "come on," now. A good idea and a worthy return are worth finances. And the demand with TO should be appropriate. And those who talk about it, that there is no conscience to serve for money, so I will say so here you go.
    1. +1
      22 September 2016 06: 46
      For the slogans "Hurray" and "come on," now no one will go. You are right, I myself would be in the army under the contract, they just don’t take for health reasons, but if a warrior, then I can fight and without a bob the incentive is RODOKI.
      1. 0
        22 September 2016 09: 58
        Quote: Danil Larionov
        the stimulus is the RODS.

        Wives with children do not have chtoli, brothers, sisters, or do they have no value for you?
        1. 0
          22 September 2016 11: 48
          I am alone in the family. sad
      2. +2
        22 September 2016 22: 16
        Maybe not because of health, but because of terrifying illiteracy?
        Well, the thoughts are true. If a real war happens, I’ll go to the military commissariat in the forefront, there’s no profit and ambition, someone should ... Everything is more effective than from heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, cancers ... And different adventures for free - thank you, capitalism, however, does not order ...
    2. +1
      22 September 2016 07: 54
      That is, if necessary, you will go on the attack only and only when they tell you that the payment of your zeal will be guaranteed?
      Yeah, just see what a misfortune, in the attack for bucks, rubles, few want to run, and in war conditions, where you take pennies lovers of dough, since they will be needed for something else?
      From the history of wars, a well-known hired army wins battles, but always loses a war.
      So with a motivation like yours, many will go to serve the one who gives the most, and this is clear and understandable who will be.
    3. +1
      22 September 2016 12: 08
      Quote: Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov
      Of course, no one will drive the division to the front line. Their task is to protect the objects of Crimea. Guard and defense. And therefore, small arms and mortars - that’s the whole set of weapons. If necessary, reservists will participate in anti-terrorist operations and natural disasters.

      I am poorly versed in the tactics of "protection and defense" (although I served as an urgent until the junior commander), but there is a "squiggle of squiggles".

      The authors put the infrastructure objects of megacities in the category of the most important strategic objects. Those. the loss of such an object is equated to the most severe (strategic) military defeat. It is not subject to doubt.
      And now - the thesis: the protection of these most important objects is entrusted ... to units slightly more combat-ready than the former VOKhR.
      At the same time, as I know, DRGs will be used to attack these objects - not jerks recruited for candy, but specially trained saboteurs specializing specifically in such objects.

      T.O. confront (in my opinion) no less competent and trained fighters, who, if not special forces, then at least a cut above ordinary army units.

      But, if they have a task - only to raise the nook for a couple of minutes before the sabotage (there are few chances to prevent), then the difference is not big - well, the ner will rise by itself a little later. Who cares?

      And in connection with the above funny post
      Quote: astronom1973n
      And the demand with TO should be appropriate.

      What is demand then?
    4. +2
      22 September 2016 13: 43
      Quote: astronom1973n
      A good idea and a decent return are worth the finance. And the demand with maintenance should be appropriate.

      In that case, why do we need these territories at all? We have the Russian Guard, which, while still an explosive dog, ate a dog while guarding infrastructure facilities.
      Why the hell to create duplicate structures and stuff amateurs into them? Moreover, to do this in a parallel department, whose tasks are not included in the protection of civilian objects?
      Who will prepare these territories? Invited specialists from the WG?
      And how will these territories interact with the WG? The biggest problems just arise at the junction of the two departments.
    5. +5
      22 September 2016 17: 37
      Enough to invent any "novelty". It is necessary to return to the old Soviet mobilization system, to the cadre military units, in which the officer corps of permanently serving in the Army is assembled, up to all the main platoon commanders, the main specialists from conscripts, and all military equipment in storage, except for training and combat vehicles in constant operation.
      These cropped units are assigned and assigned to crews and platoons by local storerooms of soldiers and officers who arrive at "their" military unit in a matter of hours of the first two days.
      I myself began my service in such a manned infantry division in Transbaikalia, in a tank regiment in the town of Sretensk, Chita Region. Only the 1st company of the 1st battalion was fully equipped in the regiment, in all the other nine companies there were only the company commander, his deputy for technical affairs, 3 platoon commanders, and 10 soldiers of conscripts of tank mechanics. The rest of the company was assigned from the reserve and replenished the crews in case of mobilization. In a company of 10 tanks, 9 were mothballed and fully equipped with live ammunition, one tank, as a training tank, drove mechanic soldiers to study.
      And then they came up with some parts of "territorial defense". I remember my father told me that it happened in the mid-30s in the USSR, but then they were abandoned due to the ineffectiveness of the "territorial" system.
      1. 0
        22 September 2016 18: 40
        In the 20s and 30s, the militia-territorial service went instead of conscription, of course, the degree of training of the military "serving" for about 8 months for 5 years was no. Now, NNP, those who have already served are taken to the TO.
        The cropped parts are good, there’s a real trifle — the idea is that the mobilized should serve in full force and provide with collections of 2/3 of the army of the wartime (fees of 40-60 days, the Finnish Armed Forces in 1934-1939) or up to 25 days for 3 years and military service for another 3 years (sweetheart, IDF).
        1. +1
          22 September 2016 21: 56
          Add to the written. Two motorized rifle regiments of the three, Sretensky cadre motorized infantry divisions advanced to the Chinese border (Nerzavodskaya and Dosatuevsky), were fully deployed.
          By now, from that cropped division and its full composition of motorized rifle regiments, there is no "horn, no legs" left, gentlemen "democrats" have destroyed and destroyed everything, including all their military garrisons and towns.
          And how many such divisions were destroyed across Russia, only the General Staff knows. Probably not a dozen. And now we can’t master less than half a dozen, neither finance, nor trained people.
          Breaking, not building, great work and mind is not necessary. The trouble is, since the shoemaker bakes pies, and the patty grinds his boots.
    6. bad
      0
      24 September 2016 08: 08
      if it becomes "hot" there are people and a lot of them, and whose goal in the first place is to pile on the agressor and so that patrons with tushnyak are brought up in excess .. everything else is secondary .. but if you want to live in war, then you will learn everything yourself .. and quickly ..and without prodding .. the lazy and inept first die .. almost like Darwin ..
      1. 0
        24 September 2016 12: 43
        Quote: bad
        in the war you’ll learn everything yourself .. and quickly .. and without urging .. lazy and inept first perish .. almost like Darwin ..

        Completely, your thoughts do not take into account that the death of the "lazy and inept"] in the army in positions that often determine the combat ability, will automatically lead to the death of the "skillful" and failure to fulfill the combat mission.
        But the organization of a mobile reserve of aircraft is no less complicated than the preparation of units of constant readiness.
        And the errors of our leadership, who at one time appointed Perdyukov as the Minister, have already been rejected by time.
        How to do it better?
        It seems that it is also necessary to connect the frame with the presence of "OP" (orgadra in the old way wink ) as reserves of the first stage, and reserve battalions for the preparation of the second, and non-military training of reserves of "non-combat VUS" (drivers, cooks, etc.)
        On the borders of the Russian Federation, it makes sense to form Cossack hundreds and regiments according to the territorial principle. It was these formations that were found to be very popular in specific events in the Crimea and Donbass.
        The main thing is not to allow a "squatting brothel" in the reserve army; low level of discipline, formalism, profanity, activity for show, what, to be honest, happened in the old days.
        However, order and discipline are not separate in the army or elsewhere without its presence in the entire state ...
        As for the costs, here you need not just to count them according to estimates, but to show, as Peter I said, "understanding".
        For example, to conduct initial technical and fire training for 10 reserve tankers, i.e. give the necessary knowledge on the design of the tank, teach to start, move, turn, turn on the fire control system, aim the weapon at the target in various modes, load the ammunition in the AZ (MZ), conduct maintenance activities No. 1 and No. 2 with 100 hours, one experienced teacher is enough ( instructor) - reserve officer and 2,5 - 3 months, taking into account the conduct of training 2-3 times a week.
        the group is small, since the classes are mostly practical.
        Need one serviceable used tank with a set of spare parts and several posters.
        Naturally, the tank will not stand in anyone's garage. We need a box for 4-5 cars, a powerful source of external power, a fenced area with a burglar alarm, four to five instructors (they are also adm.-techn. Personnel), organized by those. security and much more.
        But the costs are relatively small, one "effective manager" of the regional level is paid 100-150 thousand and more.
        This is the question of where to get finances.
        Such a small training center located in the native city of the reserve, where you do not need to travel for many kilometers, will train specialists in TB in half a year.
        Of course, it will be necessary, then to collect them at the training ground for 2-3 weeks, for practice in specific specialties, firing, driving and RTU.
        But these reserves, especially considering that they are volunteers, are already in many ways a ready reserve for tank troops.
        Well, somehow, probably, it’s possible to establish a business without excessive spending of the budget and distracting people from their main job.
        1. 0
          26 September 2016 19: 23
          Strategists sofa these authors. Well, if you do not understand the topic at all, then at least ask the corporal of the reserve.
  2. +5
    22 September 2016 06: 29
    To the listed, with each one, organizations of the Ministry of Emergencies can be added. Considering the responsibility of the leaders of civil defense organizations and the responsibility of local authorities for civil defense, the presence of cadre regiments of the Civil Defense in each region would be economically feasible, and being in the structure of military districts and in terms of resolving emergency response would be cheaper and more correct. The situation in Primorye showed this.
    1. +7
      22 September 2016 08: 07
      20 years ago, they were called "to the partisans", to the training camp, that is ... poor liver ... as I remember, I shudder. There was nothing to do, absolutely ... no one needed ... so they drank. 21 days ...
  3. +1
    22 September 2016 08: 03
    A banter of authors about territorial defense is inappropriate.
    They mixed everything in a heap as in okroshka.
    There is experience in creating divisions of the national militia during the war years.
    There is MP.
    1. +1
      22 September 2016 12: 32
      I would suggest to conduct courses on the basis of parts that are available in almost every small city at a reasonable price. not no mine-disruptive. even the sappers are dangerous. laughing sniper craft. to train to work with grenade launchers survival. even shooters with paints but close to the point. there will be no crowd. but interest for sure. deducted junk a lot. we can and novym. pay. hi
    2. 0
      22 September 2016 13: 11
      And where did you see Stas banter? I perfectly understood the authors and everything they wanted to say and 95% agree with this. Do you have experience of creating a people's militia in the Second World War? So let's still remember the militia of Minin and Pozharsky? You at least represent (although would theoretically) a security system for a thermal power plant or chemical production, which at the moment are under the protection of their own SOPs and which in wartime should be taken under army protection? The authors correctly expressed that competent people should be appointed commanders of such units (I have a personal example - the head of the SOP put a whole lieutenant colonel of the traffic police - the security system at the enterprise flew into the chimney, for that there were also placards swept everywhere about who is walking (okay, even though the ration of the dogs has not been reduced yet, the Ministry of Internal Affairs has not canceled the standards) And they will keep this cap or yes a serious jamb or to the new General. Regarding the recruitment - voluntary, to recruit 10 thousand 30-40 year old men in the region will not be a big problem (especially by financially stimulating). I am sympathetic with the authors in the fact that to gather for exercises once a year - why is it impossible on schedule, let's say once a month, so there is no need to maintain constant security and support - except for commanders, the team is shiftable (by subdivisions). a wonderful incentive - a ruble - preferential taxation and fines for managers personally. And not so long ago, Vlikiy pushed the TRP into account, so we have GazPrem and all state employees almost drive people to the stadiums under the orchestra. There is another option for completing any " partisan "units.
    3. bad
      0
      24 September 2016 08: 12
      I agree + just banter .. as if the authors of the Academy of General Staff graduated .. to criticize a lot of "experts"
  4. +5
    22 September 2016 08: 52
    You can safely work with hunting groups and organizations. A priori are law-abiding and healthy citizens. Those who own weapons and know their area well. There are of course exceptions, but this, like on the road, car owners ... there are dodges.
    More trust in your people.
    Regarding employers ... yes, as in Switzerland, for example. 12 months in prison.
    1. +1
      23 September 2016 04: 40
      The Balts are following this path ... It is quite an acceptable solution. But about the employers ... It's not funny to watch an advertisement about "A good director will not leave without a pension ..." I once saw a documentary film about the Pskov paratroopers. They took it off for the anniversary. So there is a very indicative fate of one guy-Hero of Russia.
      Somewhere in Arkhangelsk he worked as a car mechanic and ... hid that he was a Hero. Otherwise, they will expel and there will be no work at all ..
  5. +1
    22 September 2016 09: 53
    In Russia, it is high time to form parts of the national guard, modeled on the United States. It will not be expensive, but it will raise defense capability. Such parts have Israel, Iran and the Russian Federation, they will not interfere.
    1. 0
      22 September 2016 11: 53
      We already have the Russian Guard, whose tasks are 100% overlapped with the "territorials" of the Moscow Region.
      The troops of the National Guard of the Russian Federation are entrusted with the solution of the following main tasks:
      participation in maintaining public order, ensuring public safety;
      protection of important state facilities, special cargoes, facilities on communications in accordance with the lists approved by the Government of the Russian Federation;
      participation in the fight against terrorism and extremism;
      participation in ensuring regimes of emergency, martial law, the legal regime of counter-terrorism operations;
      participation in the territorial defense of the Russian Federation;
      assisting the border agencies of the FSB of the Russian Federation in protecting the state border of Russia;
      federal state control (supervision) over compliance with the legislation of the Russian Federation in the field of arms trafficking and in the field of private security activities, as well as ensuring the security of the fuel and energy complex, the activities of legal entities with special statutory tasks and departmental security units;
      protection of particularly important and sensitive facilities, facilities subject to mandatory protection by the troops of the national guard, in accordance with the list approved by the Government of the Russian Federation, protection of property of individuals and legal entities under contracts.
  6. 0
    22 September 2016 09: 58
    There should be a legislative framework, funding, responsible officials. Without this, the whole undertaking with TO will be similar to the game Zarnitsa, if anyone remembers.
  7. +3
    22 September 2016 10: 01
    I was at the training camp this year, the liver does not hurt, there was no time. We studied, everything became much more serious.
  8. +2
    22 September 2016 10: 15
    A remarkable example of duplication of functions, how is the 47th MOT Division fundamentally different from the Airborne Division of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation or the Federal Service of the National Guard Troops? Nothing. And if they are, then why duplicate functions? Is the budget bottomless?
    In the comments there is a proposal to create an analogue of the U.S. Army NG, so the difference is that the OSS of the NG divisions is completely similar to the U.S. Army divisions, i.e. the guards are not limited to the task of territorial defense, they are a backup of regular forces.
  9. +1
    22 September 2016 11: 14
    "Either we are seriously planning to fight with someone, or simply money has nowhere to go." There is where, if the colonels have billions, then the pockets of those standing above are even deeper. And with "partners and colleagues" but who will fight.
  10. +2
    22 September 2016 11: 47
    Territorial defense is primarily based on the trust of the authorities in the people, including, among other things, due to their arming with normal firearms.

    Then there will be someone, why and with what to protect their homes and streets.

    But as you can see, the main enemy of the current government is this very people, the struggle against which the authorities are waging on all platforms, from wages, taxes, food quality, education and medicine, to TV and Internet fields, and so far the victory with a score of 90 to 10 on the side of power.

    Therefore, there will be no territorial defense, a little frolic at the state expense and again the problem will be blabbed.
    1. 0
      22 September 2016 12: 40
      In general, we have the manning of the army on conscription, in the hands of the people are weapons from a pistol to tanks, self-propelled guns and OTRK.
    2. 0
      23 September 2016 06: 55
      You all said to the point! Everything will be, as always, plundered, finances stolen and victoriously accountable.
  11. 0
    22 September 2016 12: 48
    Reduction of posts in the Ministry of Internal Affairs most likely due to services moving to the National Guard.
    1. 0
      22 September 2016 13: 46
      Quote: bbss
      Reduction of posts in the Ministry of Internal Affairs most likely due to services moving to the National Guard.

      Not likely, but exactly.
      This happened due to the creation of the Russian Guard, where the employees of private security and licensing and permitting units, as well as riot police and SOBR, moved. In addition, the presidential decree brought the number of departments in line with the abolition of the Federal Drug Control Service and the Federal Migration Service and the transfer of their functions to the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
  12. +1
    22 September 2016 13: 34
    It is difficult to say how much such formations are necessary. It would probably be better if the State were preoccupied with the creation of units similar to the British Auxiliary Services or American minutemans. And the people need much less and, in the event of war, there would be more sense.
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    22 September 2016 14: 48
    "In addition, military units annually release a lot of well-trained soldiers and sergeants."
    This is the army’s mobilization reserve ... and in terms of maintenance, after reaching the age limit for military service in the Army, five years .... probably ....
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      23 September 2016 04: 44
      The TO command is organizationally part of the Ministry of Defense. So this is the army.
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    22 September 2016 16: 10
    "... Territorial defense. And it also seems to be not harmful at least. Neighbors, even from our allies, have been solving this problem for years, decades ...

    But the feeling is a bit strange. Either we are seriously planning to fight with someone, or just the money has nowhere to go.
    Author: Alexander Staver, Roman Skomorokhov "

    Gentlemen, the authors began for health, finished for the repose. Doubt sorted them out. Either they just woke up, or fell from the moon, but after everything written and read on VO about sanctions, hybrid and other wars that are being waged as a trap against Russia, you see, a strange feeling arose and strange thoughts, maybe not war is, and so ... "entertainment". Or maybe there's just nowhere to put money ...
    Dear Authors, "Simplicity is worse than theft", especially when replicated to a significant VO audience.
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      23 September 2016 06: 49
      It's just that these people live in a different reality ...
  15. +3
    22 September 2016 21: 29
    I want to say about the gathering of reservists, several thousand people gathered in our stavropol region, including my dad arrived near Budenovsk and some colonel said in rude form that everyone would resolve until the evening. SUCH A DRINK OUR EDGE HAS NOT SEEN ANYTHING Laughing
  16. 0
    23 September 2016 06: 46
    Motivate the oligarchs with the issue of patriotism and many problems be resolved, including financing of TO ... otherwise everything is offshore ... But when the country is under external control, both political and financial, then this TO is simply purple for many ... ordinary people are already accustomed to the fact that the authorities simply do not care about them, a system has already been formed, every man for himself, "my house is on the edge", the number of cattle is growing exponentially ... All these attempts to organize maintenance in the regions come from the authorities in the Kremlin, they will give a pointer from above and then they will do something below ... as soon as they forget about THAT in the Kremlin, then they will not remember either. Look at the state of civil defense, everything is good on paper, but in reality it is collapse at civil defense facilities. And anyway, all this idle talk and nothing more, dreaming is not harmful ... nothing depends on us, it can be seen from the elections ...
  17. 0
    28 September 2016 23: 42
    Good day.hi
    The topic is important, and judging by the events around Russia, it is essentially "yesterday." The word war and comparison with 1941 are already heard at the level of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief. We need serious but prompt analytical work to create our own version of the system based on the Russian Empire, the Soviet experience, the United States, Switzerland, Israel (the optimal minimum is listed) .This is a time-tested experience: the experience of organizing and supplying, combat coordination and working out interaction, the legislative base with taking into account the specifics of the territories, the specifics of training, etc. incl. by the time of Ch. Social order, even mentality.
    It is a pity that developments, suggestions and experience are not even heard. By the way, our partners have financial issues, incl. listed earlier have been resolved. These countries did not know socialism, but God forbid, one of the "businessmen" will not want to fulfill the state's established for organizing the training of mobs. reserve and territorial defense forces. It will be more expensive for itself in every sense. I would like to believe that we will have time. But there are still questions of civil defense, of the younger generation. It is sad to hear that in physical education lessons they only kick or throw the ball, and they seriously discuss on TV about physical education for girls (for the figure), boys (for the muscles). They did not even mention the meaning of the TRP, which seems to be reanimated. An excellent initiative "Yunarmiya", but here, too, an optimal organization is needed based on the experience of the scout movement, pioneers and the lessons of CWP and OBZH. Those. use study hours and extracurricular time, not dividing, but supplementing and not creating another jumble.
    R.S. It is clear that it is very problematic to solve problems only with personnel structures, proceeding not only from economics and finance, but also from their organization, including. migration, and the number of losses during the first days after God forbid a green whistle.
    Yours faithfully, … hi
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