Dizzy with success, or "Anxiety" in the Russian army

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We are so accustomed to, that our army is strong, that we hardly notice, or rather, we don’t want to notice that light armed clouds have appeared over the Russian Armed Forces, which threaten to turn into thunderclouds. We are happy to talk and write about our planes, which are at least as good as the western ones. We "musolim" Armath and its derivatives, comparing with the best examples of the Western armies. We argue about the benefits of new missiles and complexes.





And at this time, right today, here and there, various statements by government officials and army superiors are heard to postpone the supply of arms for a while, so to speak. About the postponed descents of the ships on water. On the adjustment of the timing of delivery to the troops of something.

So what's up? Why it happens? After all, quite recently, all officials, including the president and the prime minister, spoke amicably about the fulfillment of the defense order, as a matter of almost honor for Russia. Many people remember Putin’s April statement on the unconditional implementation of the state order? And many are able to say exactly how it is made and whether it is made at all?

The thing is that the budget did not have the necessary funds! The crisis that we "successfully overcome", still got us with its claws. We talked a lot about the fact that sanctions harm Europe and the United States, and we seem to be benefiting. We develop, we increase the output, we conquer the markets ... In any analytical program of our TV you can hear a complete set of such statements.

The support of the president and the real successes of our servicemen in Syria gave us hope that everything will be fulfilled. The government will find money for us and the army. The industry will start working not only well, but also quickly and cheaply. New ideas of developers will be implemented as soon as possible.

Prime Minister Medvedev’s decision to adjust the GOZ to 2016 for the year, signed on September 5, is just the first call. It is clear that there is no specific data on this issue today. The only thing that can be assumed is that defense enterprises will not receive some of the promised funds. And this, in turn, means that the state defense plans for the next year are crumbling. Snowball adjustments will grow into details gradually.

And now, without hiding what, however, does him honor, Putin himself already says that by 2018, our army will be reequipped for 70%, and the state order will be reduced. And he says that it is necessary to replace the places of the defense order, but not with pots and pans.

On the one hand, who is forewarned is forearmed. And on the other? It is difficult to predict what the enterprises, miraculously pulled out of the debt pits, will do. And where will the workers go who will be superfluous at one moment? Although one scenario, we have already passed.

True, some specifics have already "pecked." The Ministry of Defense planned to make the famous "Armata" the main a tank by 2020 already. For this purpose, it was planned to purchase more than 2000 of these machines for military units. According to tank manufacturers, there was an order for 2300 vehicles. However, quite recently a completely different figure has appeared on the website of the Ministry of Defense: for 2017-19, it is planned to purchase up to 70 Armats.

Naturally, the reasons for changing the order are not called. I think, after some time, versions will be announced about some flaws, about the modernization of an existing one, some more. In fact, the reason is banal. The military budget is curtailed and will be curtailed. Everything is logical, because you will not take money from a shelf of money if you have not put them there. So say the people.

Even more confusing is the situation with the Navy. The need for modernization fleet Even the blind see Russia. Ships, like people, are aging, losing their striking power, turning into respected veterans. And warriors are needed. And these "warriors" need to be built. Build a lot. The Soviet legacy can no longer guarantee a worthy response to the aggressor.

With 2007, construction seems to have begun. Missile boats, small vessels and even submarine cruisers began to leave the docks for testing. New cruisers and frigates were laid at the shipyards. The rebirth has begun.

The first "brake" was our excessive faith in "the love and friendship of fraternal peoples." When construction was stopped by the Ukrainian side. Ukrainian engines have ceased to be delivered to us. In fact, the question of launching military equipment and the armament of "their" components sharply rose in the last century. And in the USSR it was successfully decided. And in Russia they postponed "for later."

Then came the "rockfall" statements by military and government officials about reductions in the needs of the fleet. Let me remind readers, the BNC project 11711. Large landing ship, which was supposed to replace the Soviet BDK. In 2004, the need for 6 of such ships for the Navy was announced. Then they decided to revise the project.

Today we see two ships. Two instead of six. The project decided to close. "Ivan Gren" and "Peter Morgunov" - that's all that will be transferred to the fleet after the tests.

You can talk endlessly about the submarine fleet. About new missile cruisers. But they, alas, for the most part remain only in projects. Building ships of this class is very expensive. And it means, while very heavy.

Even strategic rocket forces will not receive all that is promised. Although, at all times, priority was always precisely for these troops. No, "Yarsy" and similar systems will be supplied. But the stationary-based system "Sarmat" most likely the original plan to place will not work.

Let me remind you that the “Voivods” that have served their time and are already outdated (known to the majority under the NATO nickname “Satan”) were planned to be replaced by “Sarmatians” by the 2020 year. Today it is clear that these plans are not feasible. Already today. At best, such a replacement will be carried out in the 2021 year. Or a little later.

So where is the way out of this situation? And is there anyway? Approved - there is. And the way out is to use today the developments that are and have already been tried out in battles.

When the commander of the Airborne Forces announced the creation of tank companies and mouths on the BMP in the subordinate units of which vehicles did he speak? And he talked about tanks T-72B3 and BMP-2. I hope no one will blame General Shamanov for the stupidity and unwillingness to have the most powerful and modern weapons? So why exactly these cars?

Yes, simply because both the tank and the combat vehicle have a huge potential for modernization. And in the coming decades, this potential will be used. A massive mass production has reduced the cost of this technique to the limit. And long-term operation in the army practically revealed all the "minuses" of these machines.

Upgrading the T-72 to the T-72B3 level costs a little over 50 million rubles. In other words, for one "Armata" we can get several T-72B3 at once. Naturally, T-90 would be more desirable, but it also “bites” in cost.

Exactly the same situation with the famous T-50 complex. The plane is ready. Moreover, it is launched in a series. And according to the plans should be the main one. In our plans, this "hulk" looked impressive. Already in 2020, we had to have 60 fighters in the army. And in the future, their production should have increased.

In reality, it turned out about the same as with “Armata”. They wanted to get on the “splits”, but the trousers interfere ... Well, if in 2020, we will have a regiment of such machines.

But we also have a fully combat-ready, even in competition with the American F-22 and F-35, Su-30MK. And, according to the designers, the potential of these machines is far from being exhausted.

And what is the result? And in the end we see the famous "half a glass of water." Some readers now sighing sadly. Army in the "pen". The other part reflects on whether the Russian army, in the form in which we have it, can really resist the enemy. The third part giggles happily. Failed to upgrade. Clumsy And we said ...

I knowingly called the article in Stalin. This is not a delusion of grandeur and not a desire to show off the knowledge of the "leader of the peoples" works. We are really a little "spin". All at once did not work.

In general, I think that the right movement is walking, running. But not "frog" jumps. Movement should be uniform and in one direction. Because the modernization of the army must continue. Continue, no matter what. But not tearing the navel.

Talk about our weapons and military equipment as trash, I would beware. Especially after what this technique showed in the Syrian battles. Similarly, talk about the superiority of the Western armies in some components, too. Yes, if we consider the army as a world, there will always be a "gap". But this gap is always "shut up" by something else.

The dizziness quickly passes if to leave a centrifuge or a lope. Unless, of course, your vestibular apparatus works correctly. I think healthy people serve in our Ministry of Defense.

And one moment. It’s not necessary to explain to anyone that our officials, who have seized upon such an opportunity, are not just stealing. The Internet and TV rare day do not report about the next "flown".

Those who are “dizzy with success” should be stopped. By the methods of the person I quoted. Hard and for a long time. Take the same Zakharchenko. 9 billion rubles is a lot. T-90, for example, today costs approximately 120 million rubles. That is, the cattle in the human image lay in the guns of 75 tanks. Two battalions. Not bad…

And this is one of the deputies ...

And if you still search for relatives, then I am sure that it would be possible to scrape the brigade easily and naturally.

The “effective managers” of our time have shown that effectively they can only steal. From that very budget, from that very GOZ.

We must really change the situation radically. And tear up this root with a crunch and crackle on the model and likeness of 37 of the year. With the confiscation of all that is possible.

Only then will the state defense order be executed on time and without problems. And the president will not have to dodge, talking about the percentage of 70, so that we feel calm.

Is not it?
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  1. +8
    15 September 2016 06: 25
    The Ministry of Finance, instead of fighting the crisis, just said no, no one.
    1. +14
      15 September 2016 12: 06
      It is foolish to think that the Ministry of Finance is the main manager of money.
      The Ministry of Finance should primarily fulfill its functions, and this is what it does, and as for the structures of the military-industrial complex and specialized ministries and departments to which they are controlled, it is their direct task to prove the priority and the need to finance various projects in the first place.
      And in general, directors, chief designers and shareholders of defense industry structures are usually professionals in their fields, therefore they must and must understand that a state order for military equipment cannot be forever and it is necessary to look for other niches in the market.

      As for the article itself, for example, it does not seem to me that the country's leadership is euphoric from our military products. There are difficulties in the production and quality of such products, and experts and the military are writing and talking about this. Another thing is the population. Here, of course, there are those who are engaged in hatred and those who look at our army and navy quite soberly and critically. The President and the government correctly do that they give information in a dosed manner, noting both successes and difficulties, otherwise if they declared one negative on the air the exact same negative would be in society, and this would be fraught with the most unpredictable consequences, including such like in Ukraine.
      1. AUL
        +28
        15 September 2016 17: 31
        There is no money, but you hold on! (C)
        Meanwhile, 40 billion bucks are transferred annually over the hill. And this is only according to official data! It’s scary to think how much is actually leaking. And our steering, knowing these statistics, are trying to cut the dough from pensioners and state employees!
    2. +7
      16 September 2016 02: 13
      This is very unfortunate. The price of one resource can completely undermine the country's defense and economy. I don’t want to write in the style of "fucked up polymers", but someone should answer for the fact that no one has thought about critical production in the country for the last 10 fat years. The author is right to strategically plan and plan the volumes really. The price of a mistake is death, we are not playing with spillikins.
      1. 0
        20 September 2016 12: 11
        Quote: mihai_md2003
        ..... The author is right to plan strategically and plan volumes really. The price of the error is death, we’re not playing the game.

        Dear, you reason as if we are still in the Soviet Union. And we are in the capitalist RF. And it will be profitable to surrender us - they will surrender without hesitation.
    3. 0
      17 September 2016 03: 37
      the truth is somewhere near . or between the lines. the main thing is not between the legs. Yes
    4. 0
      17 September 2016 10: 56
      The government is completely "brakes" a la Ulyukaev. So what can you expect from this?
      1. +3
        17 September 2016 14: 52
        And who appoints all these brakes to the post. Do not know by chance?
  2. +9
    15 September 2016 06: 33
    I do not think that there will be a sharp reduction. The problem in the future will be when the army is sated. There will be no large defense order. Therefore, the government now advises leaders to think about diversification.
    1. +33
      15 September 2016 07: 05
      Quote: ImPerts
      The problem in the future will be when the army is saturated.


      The saturation of the army is a permanent process, it ends only if the army ceases to exist.
      1. +38
        15 September 2016 11: 41
        ... to put it mildly, I did not quite understand the meaning of the article ... but since the authors are discussing the implementation of the state defense order, you should probably turn to sources, such as, for example, a single day for the receipt of military products, the last was on March 11, 2016 ... Quote from articles:
        So what's up? Why it happens? After all, quite recently, all officials, including the president and the prime minister, spoke amicably about the fulfillment of the defense order, as a matter of almost honor for Russia. Many people remember Putin’s April statement on the unconditional implementation of the state order? And many are able to say exactly how it is made and whether it is made at all?
        ... the answer is from a single day of acceptance of military products:
        In total, according to the results of 2015, about four thousand main promising models of weapons and military equipment were sent to the troops, which determine the appearance of the modern Armed Forces. Among them, 96 aircraft, 81 helicopters, 2 multi-purpose submarines, 152 anti-aircraft missile systems, 291 radar stations, more than 400 pieces of artillery and armored weapons.
        ... full report here: http://www.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/51496
        Quote article:
        The thing is that the budget did not have the necessary funds! The crisis that we "successfully overcome", still got us with its claws. We talked a lot about the fact that sanctions harm Europe and the United States, and we seem to be benefiting. We develop, we increase the output, we conquer the markets ... In any analytical program of our TV you can hear a complete set of such statements.
        ... about the budget it's generally enchanting ... but, where are the facts? ... if such a bold statement is made, then it must be confirmed by something? ...
        Quote article:
        The decision of Prime Minister Medvedev to adjust the SDO for 2016, signed on September 5, is just the first call. It is clear that there is no concrete data on this issue today. The only thing that can be assumed is that defense enterprises will not receive some of the promised funds.
        ... in general, that decision was made at a higher level, and not by Medvedev ... he only executed this decision and was accepted to be remembered by the collective body under the President of the Russian Federation and in fact looks like this:
        "On September 2016, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev signed a decree on adjusting the GOZ-XNUMX. The military command and control agencies carried out a lot of work on adjusting and analyzing the GOZ, taking into account the needs of the Armed Forces for the purchase, repair of weapons, as well as R&D (research and development). works - approx. TASS) ", - said Borisov.
        "A number of measures require adjustments either in prices, or in terms of time, or in terms of volumes within the limits that the government has allocated for us for this year. Practice shows that about 4-5% of orders are subject to adjustments. At the moment, we have placed over 95 %. And these almost 4,5% are an adjustment, which was signed by the Prime Minister, "- explained the Deputy Minister. Source: http://vpk.name/news/163037_minoboronyi_podpisalo
        _na_armii2016_17_dolgosrochnyih_kontraktov.html
        ... it was said on September 8 of this year, in the courtyard on September 15 ... how the authors could have missed it, I am amazed ... but maybe it is just not convenient information, it does not fit with "all-propolymers" and the carriage turns into a pumpkin, and Cinderella becomes Babu Yaga? ... well, and then read about "Flightless Sarmat", "KartonnuyuArmata", "MaloT-50" ... and in general everything is not enough ... Guys, you are Military people? ... how can you write that? ... 100500 Armat-Sarmatov-T-50 to the troops by 2020? ... and when will they have time to go through the experimental combat operation? ... or then we will remake 2000 tanks and 500 aircraft and again Roman Skomorokhov will write an article on mismanagement and squandering of folk remedies ... and will attach to it another "big bribe-taker" whose 1,3 tons of money under the bed were found in the packaging of the US Federal Reserve ... are not the authors ashamed? ...
        1. +1
          17 September 2016 10: 25
          The monk, after a careful reading of the article and your comment came, decided: you are all concerned about the state’s defense capabilities.
          Apparently, in 2015, when the defense contracts were compiled, they proceeded from optimistic calculations, and the reality turned out to be much worse (the appetites of Colonels Zakharovs did not take into account). Hence the correction of the state defense order.
          2000 Armata by 2020,100T50 and so on: they, as military people, perfectly understood what kind of ... the army was, and our "well-wishers" did not "sleep" then and signed their armies. When the center realized the lag and rather "grab the bazaar, the train departs" from here and 100 Sarmatov and 500T50 or Kalina, Malina.
      2. 0
        15 September 2016 12: 59
        The process is permanent, the volumes are different.
    2. +13
      15 September 2016 07: 29
      We have here not the most high-ranking, simple colonel (!!!) of the Ministry of Internal Affairs at home (!!!) the budget of the regional city of Belgorod is in cash, that means not everything is so bad in the "Kingdom of Denmark" ... laughing
      1. +13
        15 September 2016 09: 10
        Quote: Finches
        simple colonel (!!!) Ministry of Internal Affairs

        And responsible for the fight against corruption!
        They recently proved to me that the majority of the police are honest. Probably I agree - the majority, but this majority is not higher than the captain's rank. "Top" - these are people who rose in the 90s, 00s. Many people remember how they rose then. hi
      2. +18
        15 September 2016 13: 08
        The colonel is accused of bribery, and in my opinion, this is the state. treason!
        1. +1
          15 September 2016 22: 03
          then not his personal money, but general, "public"
          1. +1
            16 September 2016 18: 46
            Quote: Gamer
            then not his personal money, but general, "public"

            So write - obshchak. Call a spade a spade. hi
        2. +7
          16 September 2016 13: 58
          The colonel is accused of bribery, and in my opinion, this is the state. treason!

          For this, the death penalty should be introduced. After all, he who steals, by his actions undermines the economy of the state. (No better than a saboteur or spy). This is who the real USA accomplices are.
          1. +1
            17 September 2016 10: 27
            Think correctly!
  3. +5
    15 September 2016 06: 49
    New weapons, new technologies, all this is good, but where are the frames? All this should be exploited by literate people, and in order to train them you need time and training facilities and much more.
  4. +2
    15 September 2016 06: 51
    The author is wrong. There are no problems with the construction of the fleet: https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%
    D1% 82% D0% B8 / 154911 In terms of total displacement, GOZs are quite consistent, but in price, I think, superior
    1. +4
      15 September 2016 09: 14
      Quote: Deck
      There are no problems with the construction of the fleet:

      And with his weapons? And the supply ships?
      Quote: Deck
      but for the price, I think, superior

      Well that's for sure.
      1. jjj
        +5
        15 September 2016 10: 57
        It seems that the publication uses the theses of one of the parties. This too shall pass
        1. +4
          15 September 2016 13: 46
          Rather, the American bedding is pro-paranasic. Look, these "exceptional" ones on the Internet on Shakal's resources, the poll counter for voting in the elections was brought up to 38%, while the real one is less than 1%. fellow Damn, lying to their patrons from the United Shpana America. crying
  5. +16
    15 September 2016 07: 00
    The author, why did you write this article itself? To bring down a cheers-patriotic mood? :) Modernization continues. Maybe not a run but a step. You never know what they say in the media and in general in words. Upgrade as they can. IMHO V.V. Anyone interested in modernization and does as much as he can for this. Or maybe all the high-profile statements about giant purchases of equipment in a short time, made to intimidate enemies :))?
    1. +16
      15 September 2016 09: 17
      I, too, did not quite understand the decadent tone of the article. I agree that not everything is good in the "Kingdom of Danish", but no one promised stars from the sky. The fact that the plans are being corrected is understandable. Nobody expected in 2005-2007 (or when the start of rearmament was planned there) that what happened in 2014 would happen. Hence the adjustments. I believe that no Vanga will give accurate forecasts of what will happen in half a year - a year. The world is changing rapidly, plans are also changing, so in this case I do not see anything beyond the natural, and there is nothing to panic! But work on eradicating corruption, overcoming the crisis and restoring industry must be carried out at an accelerated pace. If every second governor is shaken, then we will definitely shake "Armata" by 2000-3000, not to mention every first! Truth and you need to shake wisely, otherwise you can shake it so that we will lose the country. Whatever one may say, corruption is one of the components of any state, with rare exceptions in the form of Singapore, but for Russia Singapore is not an indicator, the territory is not the same, and accordingly, the scope is not the same. So we'll see how it goes next. The main thing is not to make sharp movements ...
      1. +9
        15 September 2016 09: 36
        Hello Diana! hi
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        but for Russia Singapore is not an indicator, the territory is not the same, respectively, and the scope is not that
        Maybe the wrong methods?
        "Start by planting three of your friends."
        Lee Kuan Yu, Singapore's first premier
        1. +16
          15 September 2016 09: 49
          "Start by planting three of your friends."
          Lee Kuan Yu, Singapore's first premier


          Hello Igor! love

          Yes, I understand everything and I agree with you, but I think that the time is not right, to plant friends. Nobody threatened Singapore with a war and stood armed at the gates to the teeth! Our president, and so the detractors of the shaft, if he is now also replacing his last friends, then there will be nobody to rely on. It’s not necessary to think that Putin is as strong as Joseph Vissarionovich was, that he inherited such an inheritance after the drunk, you won’t envy! It’s true that the legacy was not better for Stalin, but all the same times were not the same and the system was not the same, and I somehow don’t see assistants like Lavrenty Pavlovich.
          1. +13
            15 September 2016 10: 08
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            but still the times were not the same

            Times are always wrong Diana. But in reality, the wrong people. Stalin imprisoned people, but did not transfer them from one position to another. Nobody talks about the necessity of mass executions of "comrades-in-arms" (although I am for them), but having such a rating among the people, it is criminal to be inactive. Regarding assistants like Beria - I myself was recruiting the VVP team, there is no one to blame.
            P.S. I see no real alternative to Putin, and I will not shout "Down with Putin". For me, the situation is stalemate. request
            1. +15
              15 September 2016 10: 18
              P.S. I see no real alternative to Putin, and I will not shout "Down with Putin". For me, the situation is stalemate. request


              Agree! I myself stand at a crossroads. It is necessary to vote unambiguously, but not for anyone. All the time I voted for the Communists, but I have long understood that of them the Communists are like a lion from a rabbit. One name was stolen, and they are successfully exploiting it, being at the trough all the time. SR, LDPR as an option I do not consider. About parnasy, growths and apples, even talking disgusting. Who is the solid residue of EP ?! Never supported them. I wanted to vote for the party Starikov, so it seems he was removed from the run. It remains only on the basis of who is less disgusting to me, only in this way it seems ...!
              1. PPD
                +16
                15 September 2016 10: 33
                Yeah! The king is good. It is a pity the boyars are thieving and fools .....
                Such a misfortune ...
                There is really another saying, fish rots from the head.
                1. +29
                  15 September 2016 10: 56
                  PPD Today, 10:33 ↑
                  Yeah! The king is good. It is a pity the boyars are thieving and fools .....
                  Such a misfortune ...
                  There is really another saying, fish rots from the head.


                  Tell me in favor, WHEN IN RUSSIA WAS OTHERWISE ?! What did Peter the Great boyars not prevent the country from making an Empire ?! Or under Catherine the Great all the officials were directly angels ?! And under Joseph Vissarionovich there was no Yezhov, Berry, Mehlis and others ?! Yes, great figures have always been great, not only on their own, but also famous for being able to pick up faithful and reliable helpers. Let me remind you that under Peter Menshikov stole so much that he was richer than the tsar himself, but this did not prevent him from being a great statesman! The same applies to Grigory Potemkin! Both escaped from the mud to riches, but nevertheless both for Russia did very, very much, especially Potemkin!

                  Assessments of Putin and his entourage will not be given by us, but by our descendants. For only they will be able to appreciate who and what contribution to the development of Russia has made. I can only say that Putin has already gone down in history as one of ..., just at least for the annexation of Crimea and the restoration of Russia as a superpower! You can argue with this argument, but the fact remains.
                  1. PPD
                    +9
                    15 September 2016 11: 26
                    I see that the knowledge about the activities of Peter you do not go beyond the historical agitation. Sorry. There are other assessments of his activities are not so rosy. When it comes to transcendental theft - = always remember Peter for some reason, apparently an accident. There are no other kings.
                    And in order to give an objective assessment, Putin does not have to wait so long, you can see it now. But if you want to wait 200 years, then of course ...
                    1. +17
                      15 September 2016 11: 32
                      I see that the knowledge about the activities of Peter you do not go beyond the historical agitation.


                      Well, of course, where do I go to your "deepest" level of knowledge of history ?! After all, like everyone else, I learned history from "propaganda", and you probably from non-borrowing sources like Svanidze and Rezun ?! I consider further dispute unnecessary and unnecessary, I already know all your opuses in advance, and to persuade you to persuade you is akin to throwing pearls in front of pigs, that is, it is not at all interesting!
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                    5. +2
                      15 September 2016 15: 11
                      Dear PPD! O Peter, after more than three hundred years, anything can be said. That's simple and concrete, anything !!!!. This does not change the significance of the legacy that he left behind. So your rebuke about knowledge at the agitation level is just verbal flatulence.
                2. +5
                  15 September 2016 12: 12
                  Quote: PPD
                  There is really another saying, fish rots from the head.


                  This saying has a sequel - but they clean it why only from the tail .... what
                3. +3
                  15 September 2016 18: 12
                  Shoigu and Lavrov not to clone and not to put on all posts, unfortunately ...
              2. +6
                15 September 2016 11: 10
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                It remains only on the basis of who is less disgusting to me, only in this way it seems ...!

                I'm going to vote for komunyak. At first I wanted not to go, or to spoil the ballot - but now there is no lower threshold. So there will be no sense in silent protest. request
              3. +2
                15 September 2016 20: 56
                Why not, the Motherland Party and the Patriots of Russia. read their programs, and suddenly this is what you were looking for.
            2. +10
              15 September 2016 10: 36
              Moreover . Vladimir Putin is a model of an exhaustively rational and rational leader in his actions with a huge potential for influence on world events. Putin is a historical figure who will be very dignified by the following generations of generations. Others, by themselves and in completely different statuses, will be forgotten. Therefore, GDPUtin is not just a person’s personality, it’s a person who, through his actions and actions, has already committed events of historical significance. And it’s another matter if everyone in his place, and not in Putin’s place, appreciated his contribution to the common cause, then they would have been less accused of sins, which he only corrected and balanced in the overall development process as someone else’s actions.
              The situation of stalemate does not happen !!! It is our brain that does not see a way out, and events as a physical process cannot stop. Therefore, you need to change your perception and improve.
          2. +6
            15 September 2016 11: 45
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Yes, I understand everything and I agree with you, but I think that the time is not right, to plant friends. Nobody threatened Singapore with a war and stood armed at the gates to the teeth!

            Ahem ... Are you serious?
            My next assignment was to organize state defense. We had no army at all. Our two battalions were under the command of a Malay brigadier general. How did we create at least some armed forces, and quickly? We should be able to restrain and, if necessary, prevent any reckless attempt by Malay extremists in Kuala Lumpur to carry out a coup in Singapore. Using the Malays who lived in the city, they could try to destroy our newly-acquired independence. Many Malay leaders in Kuala Lumpur believed that under no circumstances could Singapore be allowed to leave Malaysia, that it had to be subjugated. If something happened to the Prime Minister of Malaysia, Tunku Abdul Rahman, then Tun Abdul Razak would become Prime Minister, and then the leaders of the Malay extremists could reverse the decision of Tunku to withdraw from Singapore Federation. It was a period of great uncertainty.
            © Lee Kuan Yu
            1. +8
              15 September 2016 12: 00
              Alexey RA Today, 11:45 ↑
              Ahem ... Are you serious?


              Sorry, but you are comparing horseradish with a finger! The maximum threat to Singapore was the loss of independence, and Russia is threatened with complete and total destruction! And this will agree different things. And then well, do not compare Singapore with a territory of 719 square kilometers and a population of five million with Russia. Generally not a correct comparison. It is generally difficult to compare Russia with at least one country in the world. We have neither mentality, nor history, nor the scale of comparable countries. To make it clear, I mean the combination of these and other factors, and not these factors separately.
              1. +4
                15 September 2016 14: 51
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Russia is threatened with complete and total destruction!


                Diana, I ask you to remain calm and calmly continue to think.
          3. +8
            15 September 2016 17: 10
            Do not think that Putin is as strong as Joseph Vissarionovich,
            Everyone chooses for themselves
            A woman, a religion, a road.
            Serve the devil or the prophet -
            Everyone chooses for themselves.

            How do you manage to unite I.V. Stalin and Putin? How much did Stalin build in at least two five-year plans? How much has Putin destroyed?
            1. +6
              15 September 2016 20: 51
              Quote: Gardamir
              How much has Putin destroyed?

              Len - Putin did not ruin. But he didn’t build it, and for 16 years at the helm this is already a crime. hi
            2. 0
              21 September 2016 13: 26
              Quote: Gardamir
              How do you manage to unite I.V. Stalin and Putin? How much did Stalin build in at least two five-year plans? How much has Putin destroyed?

              And what exactly did Putin destroy?
              They ruined Chubais, Yavlinsky, Ryzhkov, Nemtsov, Kasyanov, and Putin is now raking these **** s.
              About Stalin, it’s also a question of who built, and on whose bones.
      2. +1
        17 September 2016 22: 12
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        I, too, did not quite understand the decadent tone of the article.

        Duc election
  6. +7
    15 September 2016 07: 03
    Good serious article. Thank you.
  7. +5
    15 September 2016 07: 13
    At the end of the year, according to tradition, Shoigu will report on the implementation of the state order - and there it will become clear what exactly was done for 2016. While it is possible to discuss in the form of fears.

    As for the dispossession of thieves - I fully agree.

    But Zakharchenko with his 75 hacked T-90 pales in front of Svidomo, who squeezed 500 T-14. am
    1. Cat
      +5
      15 September 2016 07: 24
      Ah well done! After all, the idea is worth letting all confiscated confiscated property under the corruption articles of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation for the purchase of weapons and military equipment.
      Gay where are the candidates to the State Duma! good
      1. +4
        15 September 2016 09: 02
        Quote: Kotischa
        Gay where are the candidates to the State Duma!


        Brains endure the electorate with their delusions
    2. Alf
      0
      15 September 2016 17: 29
      Quote: Gormengast
      But Zakharchenko with his 75 hacked T-90 pales before Svidomo, who squeezed 500 T-14

      So why not the wisest to hit the table with his fist? At least they tied Zakharchenko, and Svidomo openly laugh, Organ to you, and not duty. We will not give anything back.
  8. +10
    15 September 2016 07: 14
    "... It is necessary to really change the situation radically. And to tear this root with a crunch and crack, like in 37. With the confiscation of everything that is possible.

    Only then will the State Defense Order be executed on time and without problems. And the President will not have to dodge, talking about 70 percent, sufficient to make us feel calm.

    Is not it?"

    Not this way!
    The authors forgot to mention "a mere trifle", namely, that a hybrid war is being waged against Russia, including a financial and economic one. They offer "harsh" half-measures that do not lead to victory in this war. There is no war for them. It is necessary to see the harsh reality, and it is extraordinary. We need a general mobilization, i.e. introduction, if not martial law, then at least a state of emergency. Then, having received extraordinary powers, the President will not "dodge", and the State Defense Order will be fulfilled on time and without the influence of Western agents, and most importantly without external control, everywhere and in everything, which the authors are also too shy to tell us about.
    See the root.
    1. +9
      15 September 2016 08: 02
      a hybrid war is being waged against Russia,
      there is no war, do not say nonsense. There is no money for pensioners, no for defense orders, but those with whom you think we are fighting billions are transferred! How is that?
      1. +15
        15 September 2016 09: 27
        Quote: Gardamir
        How is that?


        And you take an interest from the Chinese! They are so stupid that they are the largest holders of American candy wrappers. If you don’t understand or see something, this does not mean that your opinion is the only true one. However, apart from whining and slopping towards the president and the government, you have nothing to expect. About you and people like you, you can only say one thing: everyone imagines himself a strategist seeing the battle from the side!
        And your statement that there is no war speaks either of your poor mind, or, much more likely, of your betrayal! Yes, yes, that’s exactly what I don’t need to say that I write in stamps, I just call a spade a spade. He is a traitor and a traitor in Africa!
        1. +3
          15 September 2016 09: 49
          Quote: Diana Ilyina
          They are so stupid that they are the biggest holders of American candy wrappers

          What do you think is the Chinese contribution to T-bills? I will answer you - as a guarantee. If they merge these candy wrappers en masse, then they will receive sanctions in one fell swoop, and Western sanctions for China - the death of the economy, because two-thirds of Chinese industry imports to the US and the EU.
          Therefore, China is diligently preparing its airbag, building up its gold reserves with leaps and bounds. hi
          1. +5
            15 September 2016 14: 45
            What do you think is the Chinese contribution to T-bills? I will answer you - as a guarantee.

            not a guarantee - this is consumer lending to encourage its demand for its own products.
            In addition, derivatives were formed on these securities that eventually went to the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, and from it back to the Chinese economy.
            1. 0
              15 September 2016 21: 00
              Quote: twviewer
              In addition, derivatives were formed on these securities that eventually went to the Hong Kong Stock Exchange, and from it back to the Chinese economy.
              Can be more? Treasure has certain conditions, and derivatives are reservations. As far as I know, Treasuries have the same conditions for everyone.
              1. +2
                15 September 2016 21: 38
                Derivatives are essentially mathematical concepts that determine the relationship between the two. and maybe more, successive unknowns. That is, on a simple basis, the condition is that the transaction can be carried out if there are certain prerequisites for this. The emergence of such concepts and actions is due to the fact that in dynamically changing circumstances modern mathematics is not able to accurately simulate their development, and in the financial market the investor wants to be insured against all kinds of risks. Therefore, it is important to stipulate that the papers went there, but could have gone to another place, given the other preconditions.
                In principle, the majority condemn GDPootin based on a subjective opinion based on dissatisfaction for one reason or another. But no one is defending his opinion that instead of Putin there would have been a different leader and the circumstances would have developed completely or somewhat differently. And historically it is always the same thing - a person is able to evaluate the actions of historical personalities only in comparison with the actions of either followers or predecessors. Such is the essence of man!
              2. 0
                15 September 2016 23: 37
                Can be more? Treasure has certain conditions, and derivatives are reservations. As far as I know, Treasuries have the same conditions for everyone.
                In the primitive case, you change one of the borrower's obligations to others, for example, the bank’s obligations to repay your transaction for the purchase of something. For China, more often raw materials. Then the raw materials are processed into final products and sold. The circle is closed.
                1. 0
                  15 September 2016 23: 53
                  Then the raw materials are processed into final products and sold.

                  as a finished product in the USA
                  PS I hope so more clearly
          2. +1
            17 September 2016 22: 26
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Western sanctions for China - the death of the economy

            well, it’s one-sidedly said, the Chinese and the Americans were already scaring each other with sanctions, both sides found unacceptable damage, because the bourgeoisie was slowly pulling out production from China, and the Chinese were storing gold, and if you noticed some difficulties with import substitution, in our example, and if Chinese goods from the USA are abruptly removed, Venezuela will probably succeed
        2. +3
          15 September 2016 10: 22
          Those. do you think the government and the president are also traitors? After all, they also deny the fact of war.))
          1. +9
            15 September 2016 11: 14
            13 warrior today, 10:22 ↑
            Those. do you think the government and the president are also traitors? After all, they also deny the fact of war.))


            Dear, not respected, but you could not bypass my comments, otherwise I am too lazy to comment on your nonsense. I’m not interested in entering into any discussions with you, in general, speaking in Russian - go through the forest ...!
            1. +6
              15 September 2016 11: 39
              Something modest this time. And where are the charges of betrayal and Russophobia?))
            2. +2
              15 September 2016 15: 14
              Diana, don’t worry! All the same nonsense they write and write, they answered a hundred times they argued to no avail! They will continue to get dirty. The cycle of nature ...
        3. +5
          15 September 2016 14: 37
          And you take an interest from the Chinese!
          I apologize for the obscene question, but what does the Chinese have to do with it. Or they, too, to their retirees, they say: “You keep your money,” and by the way, the Russian government pays pensions to Israeli retirees. And as for the traitors, what is the name of someone in whose rule the memory of Nazi criminals is perpetuated? And do not try to hide behind the name of Stalin, he lived then and knew what he was doing based on the realities of that time.
        4. Alf
          +3
          15 September 2016 17: 39
          And you take an interest from the Chinese! They are so stupid that they are the biggest holders of American candy wrappers

          And the Chinese are not just buying Fed bonds, they are buying shares in Amer corporations and, thus, they are making a profit from the work of these companies. And what does Russia receive from deposits in Amersky securities? One problem, but a big one, at any moment the Fed can do anything with these contributions.
          For example, Volvo, sold by Ford, is now wholly owned by China.
          And which company in the USA now belongs to Russia?
          1. 0
            18 September 2016 01: 29
            Recently, there was a little scandal that Clinton contributed to the sale of shares in the uranium mining company to the daughter of Rosatom ... He who has ears, hears. I think there was not one such deal. For Clinton to risk so much for one deal? Hardly...
      2. +8
        15 September 2016 09: 29
        Quote: Gardamir
        billions are being transferred!

        And the heads of state corporations spend several times more than they earn. Then recently the Newspaper distinguished itself -
        The Secret of Princess Olga
        How is the head of Rosneft Igor Sechin connected with one of the most luxurious yachts in the world?
        . The newspaper is certainly liberal, but still, judging not by the brand of the newspaper, but in fact?
        Navalny's film about children Seagulls spat, focusing on the names of Navalny, but the essence was blurred again. I know who Navalny is, his true goals. but nevertheless, the government itself gives reasons to the liberals. Sechin, Rotenberg and other "close to the body" individuals. hi
  9. +2
    15 September 2016 07: 31
    We can agree with the authors that it is harmful to fall into euphoria. But it's not worth portraying everything in "black color" either.
  10. +1
    15 September 2016 07: 37
    Again Mr. Skomorokhov exacerbates the problem.
    And he took the Leader of the nations as co-authors.
    1. +3
      15 September 2016 09: 50
      Quote: demo
      Again Mr. Skomorokhov exacerbates the problem.

      What is he wrong?
      1. +3
        15 September 2016 10: 16
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        What is he wrong?

        In simplifying (intentionally or not, it doesn’t matter) the situation on the implementation of the state defense order.
        The point is not only that Enterprise A was not given the money for R&D, they did not pay for the delivered products. It is assumed that A is such a white and fluffy creature that he cannot eat as much as he wants to serve his homeland. But it wants to eat - a lot and tasty.
        The reasons for the failure to comply with the GOZ choose to taste:
        - diversion of budget funds for non-core needs;
        - requirements for changing the initial conditions of the contract (price) for one reason or another;
        - due to any internal reasons, the promised model of military equipment is not being refined (all people with military equipment there will always find a reason for the customer);
        - stupidly summed up the subcontractor,
        - slightly stealing stealing a couple with the customer (the same Spetsstroy, there’s not enough money for him - to build a shopping center in Khabarovsk instead of a cosmodrome is aerobatics), etc.
        With all of the above, the MO learned to fight at best a couple of years ago. And the contracts are long-playing. Therefore, the result is this.
        1. +4
          15 September 2016 11: 20
          He laughed ... Everything is simpler. Prime Minister M. signed a decree to reduce payments for products that have already been planned for production and are in production. And here are non-core costs and stuff? the state cannot pay for what it ordered.
          An increase in the value of the order is stipulated in the contract as possible force majeure circumstances.
          The rest is traditional "old plastic" - they steal ...
          1. +3
            15 September 2016 12: 57
            Your laughter makes me doubt the advisability of explaining to you what non-core costs are inherent in the price of products. And also to discuss cases of increasing the price of a state contract.
            And what they write about "stealing" is a sheer lie.
            It just became a little money.
  11. +4
    15 September 2016 07: 39
    And if you still search for relatives, then I am sure that it would be possible to scrape the brigade easily and naturally.

    And I would say more - we need to take the experience of the Chinese comrades - to shoot a bastard, and to take all property from our relatives and make them not exit - do not give out a passport.
  12. +5
    15 September 2016 07: 44
    I’m sure if you find another 10 people (and maybe more), then 100% will be enough for the purchase of arms and military equipment without a budget fellow
    1. 0
      15 September 2016 07: 59
      I am sure if you find another person 10 zakharchenko
      So you are for the flourishing of corruption?
      1. +2
        15 September 2016 12: 07
        Of course not! I am in favor of finding such individuals. You look, and the budget will receive an appendage!
    2. +5
      15 September 2016 12: 35
      Why are you all clung to Zakharchenko !? He is nobody - a six and the money is 200% not his! This is someone's "common fund" - so you need to look for WHOSE !!! ??? But this, most likely, is so high that the prosecutor's office will not climb there .... And Zakharchenko is a "living corpse" - I think he will not live to see the court ...
  13. 0
    15 September 2016 08: 10
    There is a problem and how to solve it is unclear ... request
  14. +1
    15 September 2016 08: 11
    Actually, it's 2016 now. The US economy is slipping into a deep crisis, and with it "all progressive humanity." Even the Saudis, who have nothing to lose, cannot easily afford to spend money on weapons now. So it's not all that bad with us.
    1. +3
      15 September 2016 08: 50
      If a neighbor feels bad, this does not mean that we are well. In addition to the army, we have problems above the roof. We still need to restore the economy, and this is in parallel with the rearmament of the army and navy.
    2. +4
      15 September 2016 09: 56
      Quote: baudolino
      US economy slides into deep crisis

      She rolls for a long time, and things are still there. Anyway, we pay, like other countries, selling resources for cut paper and investing in T-bills in the USA.
      The Chinese experience is good at raising the economy, rather than anticipating the corpse of an enemy by the river. hi
  15. +2
    15 September 2016 08: 14
    The authors try to give a comprehensive assessment, but without objective criteria, they use emotional ones. At the same time, they miss that there is direct funding for the production of military equipment and there is funding for breakthrough technologies on the basis of which even more advanced military equipment will be created in the future. And the state pursues an appropriate military-technical policy, while often masking its actions with false stuffing. Let me remind you that despair and despondency is one of mortal sins.
  16. +1
    15 September 2016 08: 15
    AAAAAA !!! Everything is lost! Let's surrender to the world's main democrat!
    If the government works, then money will be found. They are, just some people think that this is not so important.
  17. 0
    15 September 2016 08: 28
    Secret, "clean" athletes.
    Well, there are Norwegians, biathletes, asthmatics, they can! What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull. Today in "pure sport" so!
    1. +2
      15 September 2016 10: 43
      Quote: Shmel-pchel
      Secret, "clean" athletes.
      Well, there are Norwegians, biathletes, asthmatics, they can! What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull. Today in "pure sport" so!


      and this is why, in general? You were not mistaken in the article, by chance?
    2. 0
      18 September 2016 01: 23
      Saturn no longer pour!
  18. +3
    15 September 2016 08: 45
    The meaning of what Putin said about diversifying production is that the authorities finally realized that it was time to get off the oil and gas needle, revenues should come from real production to a greater extent (in fact, surplus value can only be created in the sphere of material production, other areas can only be redistributed this value added). It would be nice to think of the authorities and the creation and growth of domestic consumer demand. To do this, again, production must work to occupy the able-bodied population and ensure their income. With a good level of salaries, one would not have to look for money to pay pensions; current income would block this need. Plus, there should be a protectionist economic policy of the state, i.e. supporting its own Russian manufacturer and restricting access to the foreign market (if we can do it ourselves, there’s nothing to buy abroad). Then there will be plenty of money in the Russian budget for the army and the navy, and for retirement, and for everything else.
  19. +8
    15 September 2016 08: 52
    One thing is for sure. If the Russian Federation does not begin to shoot corrupt officials and authors of frankly anti-popular laws, does not introduce a progressive tax and luxury tax, does not begin to really develop industry, raising the standard of living of workers to a normal level, from the current, almost beggarly, nothing good can be expected in the Russian Federation.
  20. +14
    15 September 2016 08: 53
    As our Commander-in-Chief likes to say, hold your wishlist. In the current situation in the government, this is unreal. I think that the investigators themselves are not happy that they accidentally dug a "wormhole" in the form of a bad apartment with seized lards. It's like that curious case when an excavator dug a coal mine. Surely "serious people from the banking sector" have already presented it to "serious people from the UK" - Did you climb into someone else's land? Dig where it should be - above, here in the mine is our territory! We do not know to whom, to what investors these lards belonged. To the Colonel personally? don't tell my slippers! This is the first bell - Bastrykin and Markov, who are unsinkable, they are about to start blowing bubbles. And how many such "colonels" are successfully scurrying in the rat holes of our banking system back and forth, carrying sacks of grain into offshore bins? If the figures for -1 trillion greens in 10 years taken from Russia to offshore have been made public? This is a serious business in which the interests of many and, in particular, the president's "friends" are so intertwined that, I'm afraid, he just clutches his head, realizing what kind of monster he raised from seemingly good intentions - to raise Russia with the hands of his trusted associates.
    The anti-corruption companionship every time ends with pfukom-because it is impossible to deal with the system with swoops
    Can't you win? I agree. But to shorten, keep on a short leash is quite real. Why don't they use the experience of foreign countries? In Switzerland, the cash turnover is only 2%! Everything else is only through banks, all large purchases only through plastic, everything is transparent. You try in America, so hated by us, to come to the salon and buy a car for cash. The next day a tax inspector will come to you, and if you do not prove the purity of your income, you will sit down for a very long time. Naturally, Russia with its wild economic laws is a heaven for Western tax evaders. Do you think that all these gray schemes came up with our calculator nuggets? How! Teachers from the West stand in line for a decent jackpot teaching everyone the art of gnawing the Russian pie. And until our thoroughly rotten and corrupt Duma adopts tough laws in the banking sector, "gray colonels" with fabulous Aladdin caves will regularly emerge, and they will work perfectly legally "for the good of the Motherland" deputy prime ministers with multimillion-dollar real estate abroad, without hesitating to look the president in the eye.
  21. +4
    15 September 2016 08: 57
    This proves once again the incapacity of the government!
    Instead of making decisions to improve the economy and close budget holes ..... You can only hear
    1. Retirement Age Increase
    2. Freezing funded pensions
    3. Excise tax increase
    4. Additional charges on federal roads for heavy vehicles.
    5. Improving housing services.
    6., 7., 8 ........ 100.
    There is no master in the country! More precisely, there is ... but in the plural. Which is the same thing.
    But Ulyukaev says that by 2030, every second person in the world wants to live in Russia!
    Maybe then there will be no holes in the budget.
    Or maybe ........ Ishak will die or the padis will die ..... or will the cabinet change? ....... bully
    1. +6
      15 September 2016 10: 05
      manual control in the country. Automation does not work. The president himself does not go down and pokes his nose, nothing works. The order execution system is zero. The country is centralized in power. Moscow and the rest of Russia. In such a large country, how will it work? every figuin cannot be taken under the control of the kremlin. Therefore, corruption is everywhere and disregard.
      For example, you have such a moment in life. Two months ago they again delayed our salaries. Those who didn’t have additional earnings freaked out some kind of roofing felts to the prosecutor’s office, but there’s a commission for the enterprise, everyone repelled everyone on the first day paid. The commission left after that the next month they paid even a day earlier than necessary, but today they warned that the premium will be cut by 30 percent and the salary may be delayed again.
      Here's how to deal with it? write to the prosecutor? then they get kicked out of work nafig such fighters and people feel sorry for people with golden hands.
      A vivid (even very) example with the eastern cosmodrome is long-suffering. Even when they took control of the president's wages on salaries, they even managed to steal money under the control of the President for another two months while stealing. What's the trouble? There is an excessive concentration of power in one city.
      1. +2
        15 September 2016 13: 45
        it's all being treated, and it’s even known how, and relatively quickly, but where are the doctors to get it?
  22. +2
    15 September 2016 09: 04
    Some kind of "nothing" article. The situation is much deeper than just "not enough money". The topic has not been disclosed. No. IMHO
  23. +7
    15 September 2016 09: 19
    The Ministry of Finance, which does not cope with the filling of the budget, and saves on defense and retirees - this is not the Ministry of Finance. This is the enemy of the people.

    This gop company is not in the ministry, but in the mines or the logging site. Sea reserves - corrupt, salaries of officials and deputies, a progressive scale of taxation and hundreds of sources.
  24. +2
    15 September 2016 09: 25
    Quote: Le111a
    Some kind of "nothing" article. The situation is much deeper than just "not enough money". The topic has not been disclosed. No. IMHO

    Having opened the topic completely (why? Yes, how? Who is to blame (including where did the colonel get such billions)?) The VO site will sink into oblivion, is it really not clear? :)))
  25. +4
    15 September 2016 09: 29
    just a pillow of money melts and that’s all. That's the reason.

    anti-corruption .... guys. Why sit and calculate a rat for so long if you can grind absolutely any head of the enterprise. The results will please you. They steal almost everything. Just take a dude and start to coward, I assure you 90 percent steal.
  26. +4
    15 September 2016 09: 54
    Army work is a holistic systemic process. This process is non-stop and taking place against a different background of international events. Therefore, on the one hand, and during universal peace, the army should develop non-stop and not to the detriment of everything else, and during confrontations should be able to mobilize and multiply its potential. All this means that the desire of army officials of senior management with one desire to saturate the army with modern weapons is comparable to, to some extent, with undermining the economy of the whole country. The scientific and technological components of arms production cannot and never could create optimal types of weapons that meet all criteria. Therefore, it is precisely the scientific and technical programs of creating such fundamental and basic scientific studies on the basis of which types of weapons will be created that are of particular importance.
    Who needs, for example, the latest fighters, which in competitive conditions have almost the same performance characteristics as the opponents, who are not already the latest in the development stage, for the tasks that they must perform? Who needs submarines, which in the twenty-first century sail on the movers of the eighteenth century. Who needs electronic warfare systems that work in electronic ranges. magnetic disturbances comparable to the enemy.
    The army is then strong when it is always at the advanced level of scientific and technical achievements and works in a balanced state with the entire economy of the country. This means that the true patriots of the country, represented by the leaders of the army, should themselves be innovators, scientists and researchers. Then they will surely feel and find that "thread" by which they can keep the "irrepressible dogs of war" on a leash.
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  28. +1
    15 September 2016 10: 24
    I repeat again and again that the army. like other components of the economy should be modeled in their work as a working mechanism on the basis of the mathematical model. This model is not an approximate or limited input and source data. and a model of constantly and dynamically changing large information data. Those who don’t understand what I’m talking about, but to the best of their obligations to do this, are already potentially losers, if not worse said. Planning and modeling is like a technique of the brain of a state, as a community. This is not a spontaneous reaction to changing circumstances, but a model of possible types of reaction to any of these circumstances, depending on the changing level of planned prospects, and not on the dependencies on those circumstances that will be imposed on us.
    1. 0
      15 September 2016 13: 29
      Christmas tree winders, I was happy early.: = (Oh Gridasov!
    2. 0
      17 September 2016 22: 43
      Quote: gridasov
      methodology of the brain of the state as a community

      nifiga did not understand, but the brain as a community of voices is such a good schizophrenia
      1. 0
        18 September 2016 09: 14
        State. like its structures do not exist on their own. The same president is unlikely to make any decisions without the service of analysts and without having received exhaustive models of the consequences of any phrases made, and even less decisions. Therefore, the brain of the state are these analysts and specialists in working with information. The basis of these experts is precisely mathematicians, namely people with advanced parameters of the brain. And the tool of their work is mathematical models that rely on fundamental knowledge, either based on functions of a variable value of a number that are not able to give accurate models for the development of events, or models built on a function of a constant value of a number that allow you to combine huge arrays of information flows. And so on. d.
  29. +3
    15 September 2016 10: 30
    Such articles appear in the media five times a day, but what's the point? The plunder in the government doesn’t care whatsoever. So far, instead of the patriots, the liberal gang is at the helm, there won’t be any sense. They also wrote about this a hundred times. Elections, say? There already someone needs to be won. Until these guys die or they are not removed, we will rot.
  30. +3
    15 September 2016 10: 58
    At the expense of the 37th year, the author is certainly right. BUT!!!!! In order for the 37th to come, you first need the 17th to come. What would all this filth, all these defective managers to tear up with a root, with a crunch and already, for 25 years, I want with blood
  31. +2
    15 September 2016 11: 14
    Once again I ask a question: why were the cons removed? I would slap an article.
    Does the author surprise you with his conclusions? Those. do you think if you pour trillards into the defense industry, then we will immediately get the T-50, a promising destroyer, aircraft carrier, Armata, Sarmaty, S-500, Leader, etc.?
    You write nonsense.
    The same 22350 are not put into operation due to the fact that the critical nodes simply do not function at the level of the laid down performance characteristics. I'm talking primarily about the AFAR "Polyment" and the SAM "Redut". There are also problems with the gas turbine engine for obvious reasons. Even if you pour money into the industry, it won't make engines and radars. The same applies to Armata with PAK FA.
    I initially did not particularly believe in the 2300 T-14.
    And what's the point now to slaughter troops with obsolete equipment to failure? No one turned off the procurement of the entire range of equipment in all types and types of troops. It’s just that the deadlines have shifted to the right, because the situation has worsened. Why do we need to buy the t-90 now, if in 1-1.5 it will be on wheels of the Armata? And then what to do with it when there will already be thousands of T-90s? To push for export?
    The problem is technology, there is money!
    1. +1
      15 September 2016 15: 09
      belay And "Armata" has been put into production ... Is there something that doesn't work? So why 70 instead of the planned 2300?
  32. +4
    15 September 2016 12: 07
    "Dizzy from success"


    No, this is not dizziness, this is the standard course of misleading people. And he suggests a cry for opportunities, not for deeds.
    Therefore, now there are so many TALKS, but not deeds, in the field of patriotism. It should start almost from kindergarten. And where are they, kindergartens, state ones? And private traders need money, not patriotism. Chatter about sponsorship, patronage of what is worth. Earlier there was a concept - "from the master's shoulder." So that's about it. No more. And what about continuous health promotions? Is the government not ashamed to show by this that it not only has no money for this, but also the desire to do it?
    And so in everything. It's easier to rant about high-profile detentions, seizures, and then "drain" everything into nowhere, on the sly.
    But it is necessary on the contrary. An application for conviction and sending to a colony with explanations for which and interim measures taken to compensate for the damage.
    And you about the army. In Russia, not in the USSR, the officers fed themselves. And this is what we will sooner or later come to again. Don't believe me? Look at the pace at which the royal junk is being introduced into everyday life. And do not make bright plans.
  33. +2
    15 September 2016 12: 24
    Yes, there is not enough money in the treasury. Yes, the sanctions cut the opportunities, but they also showed the miscalculations of the Russian government and the president regarding the domestic policy of developing production in the Russian Federation. They slowly abandoned dependence on raw materials, hoping that the West would not deviate from the principles of liberal capitalism, which was implanted in the Russian Federation with the help of the Russian government itself, which piously believed in these principles. But they believe in an ideal that is far from reality, and therefore suffers from the shortcomings of real post-industrial capitalism. Namely, the narrowing of the area of ​​the world market for TNCs makes them expand markets by killing the sovereign markets of other countries using both military and economic levers for this (direct aggression and sanctions of all kinds). The current legislation of the Russian Federation does not allow effective counteraction to this. And the economic elite looks towards the West, in whose banks they keep their money and receive cheap loans. Well, etc., etc. To change the situation radically in the country, it is necessary to return to building socialism (not that non-market one from the CPSU, but real), and not look at yesterday and trail behind Western economists serving the interests of the same TNCs and inventing explanations of how to avoid a crisis in capitalist society based on the principles of dull consumption and limited development of society. One should look for one's prophets in one's own state, and not listen to advisers from "partners" - they will not teach anything good anyway! hi
  34. +1
    15 September 2016 12: 50
    If you save, then it is better to save not on new technology and strategic programs, but on what does not undermine defense. For example, can the military do without a dress uniform? Yes they can! Well and so on ...
  35. +11
    15 September 2016 13: 18
    Not an article, but a voice crying in the desert ... And to whom does the author turn his hope? To Putin! To the man who put Serdyukov at the head of the Ministry of Defense, who did not allow this OBLIGATORY thief to be imprisoned! The author's naivety is simply amazing ... In the current "elite" of Russian society, there is NOT a SINGLE PATRIOT of their country! EVERYONE has deposits over the hill, and the children study there, or "for a husband." What kind of defense order and its implementation can we talk about? Take off your dear rose-colored glasses and see who drives you, and then be surprised about the failures and inability of the country to protect itself and JUST FEED YOURSELF!
  36. +2
    15 September 2016 13: 37
    Yes, the 37th would not hurt us!
  37. +1
    15 September 2016 14: 23
    Quote: Inok10
    ... to put it mildly, I did not quite understand the meaning of the article ...

    But what is not clear here - the author writes that in our country "everything is not so simple", that in no case should we rejoice at success, whatever their scale. on the contrary, it is necessary to look for shortcomings everywhere. And talk only about them, smoothly moving on to crying about "everything is gone."
    Articles of this kind on any topic about Russia appear more and more often.
    And they are written strictly according to one pattern.
  38. +3
    15 September 2016 14: 31
    "It is necessary to really change the situation radically. And to tear this root with a crunch and crack, like in 37. With the confiscation of everything that is possible." - I agree completely. I myself live in the Komi Republic - exactly where Gaizer and his comrades are. For whatever enterprise you do not take - they are everywhere, bakery, dairy, hotels, industrial plants, energy (T plus). Is it really only now that it became obvious, and only now the organs have been excavated and found? since 2007 they have been unwinding. We know and the organs are not? Only no hope. already from this company people began to be released on recognizance not to leave (Senator Samoilov). So for more than one year, the saying will be relevant: Whoever shouted the loudest, stop the thief, you will meet the one with a bag at the fence.
  39. +1
    15 September 2016 14: 38
    Many letters ! can be simpler the article is designed to impose the idea that the government is not coping but it is not said directly, a person should, as it were, come to the conclusion that - "elections elections candidates pid ....." and which is clear from this article.
    1. +2
      15 September 2016 19: 02
      The power can not cope? Why such a conclusion? Manages, the cut continues. The outflow of money over the hill does not stop for a minute. Naturally - from the budget. Or are you talking about GOZ? So this is a secondary task, that’s the point. Understand and do not yell. Fail the couch ....
  40. kig
    +2
    15 September 2016 14: 40
    But there is no need to do rash acts, such as CrimeaNash. It will come around again and again.
    1. +6
      15 September 2016 15: 08
      Quote: kig
      But there is no need to do rash acts, such as CrimeaNash. It will come around again and again.

      And here we need actions like KrymNASH! Even if it comes around for a very long time. If such actions are not done, then the opposite situation will occur - both the Black Sea coast, Turkish territory and the Krasnodar Territory, the Crimean Khanate and the Moscow Region, the Polish Voivodeship.
      We have already done this with the independent republic of Ichkeria, living at the expense of slaves and robbing the nearest regions of Russia.
      So dear KIG, you are not just wrong, you are just a troll! Excuse me for such a rude word!
    2. +2
      15 September 2016 15: 12
      Need to quickly lie on your back and "have fun"? Do not forget that we are Russians ... We are not used to getting into poses somehow
  41. +2
    15 September 2016 16: 19
    Very reasonable suggestions of respected authors.
    There is no way to produce a sufficient amount of ultra-modern (and super-expensive) weapons systems, so use one hundred percent what is.
    It is necessary, as the military regulations say, "to focus the main efforts" on the most important things.
    There is nothing to say about the fact that it is necessary "first of all to put on a count" of corrupt managers.
    But no less important than technical equipment is the issue of preparing a mob. reserves.
    Each subject of the Russian Federation should be able to deploy within a week, two one or two divisions (brigades) and the required number of units of combat, rear and technical support. Let not on Armata and Kurgan, but quite capable of closing tightly say the Ukrainian border.
    And this requires trained officers, sergeants and a first-line reserve soldier. So far, we do not have enough platoon and company commanders in the "real" troops ...
  42. +2
    15 September 2016 16: 43
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Regarding assistants such as Beria, he recruited the GDP team himself, there is no one to blame.

    Only now to remove from office, some of those whom he really would like to dismiss - he still can not. Only later will this be known. Surely simple.
  43. +1
    15 September 2016 18: 08
    the mood of the authors from article to article changes by almost 180 - probing the moods of the mass of readers or something, is it very similar to this :)
  44. +4
    15 September 2016 18: 19
    We are so accustomed to the fact that our army is strong that we hardly notice, more precisely, we do not want to notice that light "clouds" have appeared over the Russian Armed Forces, which threaten to turn into thunderclouds.

    Oh well. The author is probably based on numerous comments. The point is not that our army is so strong that it can pass all of Europe in a few days, but that the probable enemy "relaxed", "digesting the former participants of the Warsaw Pact and waiting for Russia to" eat "the power inherited from the USSR. to analyze the hole into which our army and the military-industrial complex plunged during the collapse of the Union, and from which they are still extricating themselves.

    The first "brake" was our excessive faith in "the love and friendship of fraternal peoples." When construction was stopped by the Ukrainian side. Ukrainian engines have ceased to be delivered to us. In fact, the question of launching military equipment and the armament of "their" components sharply rose in the last century. And in the USSR it was successfully decided. And in Russia they postponed "for later."

    Why did the author decide what was left "for later"? While deliveries were going on, work was going on, not just to establish production of "their" components, to establish production new components. While deliveries are underway, it makes no sense to "tear up ..." for a complete replacement. It is necessary to create a foundation so that in the event of supply interruption, production will not stand up.

    I knowingly called the article in Stalin. This is not a delusion of grandeur and not a desire to show off the knowledge of the "leader of the peoples" works. We are really a little "spin". All at once did not work.

    In general, I think that the right movement is walking, running. But not "frog" jumps. Movement should be uniform and in one direction. Because the modernization of the army must continue. Continue, no matter what. But not tearing the navel.

    Well, if you dig around, then you can find a similar one in V.I. Lenin, and among the post-Stalinist figures.

    We must really change the situation radically. And tear up this root with a crunch and crackle on the model and likeness of 37 of the year. With the confiscation of all that is possible.

    So it begs - "Vote for ......"
    1. +1
      15 September 2016 20: 10
      Ha, Ha, Communists drinks
  45. 0
    16 September 2016 02: 06
    Lee Kuan Yew began his reforms, best describes his statement: “If you want to defeat corruption, be prepared to send your friends and relatives to prison.”

    Source: How Singapore Overcome Corruption
    Putin has done a lot for the country, I don’t argue, but he can’t cope with the above !!! He doesn’t want or cannot not judge me, but things are still there !! Okay, 15 years ago, if he tried to arrange a landing, he would have been dismissed, but now that the power vertical seems to be built up, and his population has more than 80 percent support, what’s stopping? Is it really not a shame for a power? I do not say 37 years old and shooting! But is it really impossible to send Serdyukov and the company to the Maldives for life? so that they could never harm Russia?
  46. +1
    16 September 2016 05: 46
    This is a discussion and an article from the section "Thoughts from the couch." When the military sets the task of defense. otherwise no one in the country can say how much it will cost "at the exit." Neither Rogozin nor Medvedev. Everything is very, very approximate. development from 2 to 5 yards. Then in a series and also a fork inside and out. In fact, if the development is worthwhile, the amount can increase significantly. Oboronprom is a production with many long technological chains, from materials to equipment. So no budget will be enough, or the North Korean option; eat grass but build rockets.
  47. +1
    16 September 2016 08: 56
    No need to go too far - again, everything is gone! At any time and in any state there isn’t enough for a new EVERYTHING and IMMEDIATELY, that’s pure and for armament, Didn’t have time, could not, didn’t fulfill, but you promised. Oh! Oh!
    - The eternal problems of those who do something. And further the latest developments will appear, systems that will require new, maybe even more resources ... and there will always be those who say: it’s better to sharpen the saber - it's cheaper, after all.
    In general, who does nothing, he is not mistaken, and does not break the deadlines. God forbid that in the management were ..... business people.
  48. +4
    16 September 2016 09: 37
    Let's be honest, the internal policy of the authorities in the person of the president, the government in the person of the prime minister has completely failed, especially the economy, personnel, ideology. Whose fault is it - the top officials of the state who defend the interests of not the entire RUSSIAN PEOPLE, but a handful of the so-called "elite" mired together with officials of the highest level (such sums from a geyser, Khoroshavin, a colonel without an appropriate "cover" in power is simply not possible to have and all the talk about the honesty of these officials is just FUCK and if two lawyers do not understand this, then draw a conclusion). What we see now is 0% of the amounts passing from these corrupt officials, and if we do not take decisive measures, as Stalin did and, for example, the Democrat Reagan, we will not get out of the mud, we need political resolve, but with this our government has problems. So far, no one has canceled the law on the role of the individual in history, put things in order and then the problem of financing the army and other areas will simply be removed. But while the gap is not visible, one blah, blah, blah.
    1. +1
      16 September 2016 09: 54
      It is necessary to calmly and judiciously see the obvious. The process always develops according to the algorithms of those small stages of which it consists. One cannot demand from the president that does not fit into the framework of the process of his work. An appropriate time should pass. I always remind you that Newton’s apple cannot be on the branch and the next moment on the ground. It must overcome every point in space along the motion vector. And at each such point, the complex of certain motion parameters of this apple will differ from the previous parameters, but the algorithm of the whole process.
  49. +1
    16 September 2016 11: 00
    If you stopped these games of democracy 10 years ago ... Even now you can fix everything, but the lobby of the oligarchs is firmly seated in the power structures. It is necessary to support the supreme.
  50. +1
    16 September 2016 11: 30
    I am glad that there are still people like Gridasov, his words about mathematical calculation inspire hope for tomorrow, translated into Russian, this means that you do not need to invent a bicycle, everything can be calculated mathematically and even corruption! a mathematically calculated plan of action is the only correct choice for any standing, that is, five-ten years, whatever you want and call it. As for the article, of course, the author's article contains a grain of truth and a large share, but the topic is not disclosed in terms of "not a lack of money in the budget", but in terms of where money from the budget goes to waste ... This is a question for the adopted laws on tightening responsibility and transparency of monetary circulation in the country, i.e. to laws, in other words to the upcoming elections of deputies (lawmakers), by the way, it should be added that there were attempts to pass a law on a progressive scale of taxation, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation of the Liberal Democratic Party of the SR voted For, and the United Russia abstained, and between the rest of the majority !! ... I will vote for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, although I know that this is a fake opposition and has nothing to do with communism, but all the same, the United Russia should not be the majority, there is no need to talk about YABLOKOPARNAS scum.
    1. 0
      16 September 2016 16: 13
      Thank you for understanding! And although I talked about deep methods of modeling and forecasting on a mathematical basis. But you understood me absolutely correctly.
      I once communicated with gentlemen from other countries, so they understand the real problem of forecasting, but they solve it due to the natural properties of individuals to see algorithms for future events. This is somewhere like Wang. But Wang, Casey, and others. Valdea certain abilities, themselves did not know how it turns out. We are talking about mathematical methods that are built on the properties of numbers that are not used by people.
      Thanks again ! You are like a breath of fresh air to me. And then everyone takes for a jester.
  51. +1
    16 September 2016 11: 47
    If you carefully read the entire text of this author, you get the feeling that the author is from a family of liberals, and the entire text is only rumors, and not actual data.
    I'll write briefly:
    If we are going through some kind of crisis, then I haven’t noticed anything.
    There are crowds of people in the shops! My salary is stable and high! My mother’s pension is 19k rubles, my neighbor at the factory receives 45k rubles. So I don’t understand, where is our crisis? somewhere inside people's brains, or what?
    The army is quietly, but rearming... People fly to resorts constantly, abroad, constantly. So everyone has plenty of money!
    Plus we are fighting in Syria, plus a humanitarian convoy from volunteers to Donbass. Where the hell is the crisis and problems with the military industry in the country?
    Are they building a stadium in St. Petersburg? building! Even if it’s problematic, they’re building it, and that’s money!
    Have you built the Eastern Cosmodrome? Built!
    Here it is necessary to “cut out” all the corrupt officials and liberals so that there is no such chatter. IMHO.
    1. +1
      16 September 2016 12: 57
      And you also forgot to mention the Kerch Bridge under construction, a new hydroelectric power station, the Zvezda Shipyard, and I’m sure there are still a lot of construction projects going on.
  52. +1
    16 September 2016 14: 00
    Like Vysotsky - “...Where is Zin’s money?!..” The entire state oil industry is in private hands, 90% of the resources too, and we are looking for money....
    Strange isn't it? And this is in the richest country in the world...
  53. +1
    16 September 2016 14: 01
    Without modernization and the adoption of new types of weapons, you cannot win a war, and when you lose a war, some kind of revolution always occurs. There are many such examples in our history. Our President and Government understand this very well. Let's face it, they haven't lost a single war in modern history!!! Thanks to your work and zeal for the benefit of Russia! It’s not in vain that V.V. Putin gave D.A. A painting for Medvedev's birthday! There is a hint in it, a lesson for good fellows!
  54. 0
    16 September 2016 18: 01
    It is naive to think that Western sanctions are to blame for the crisis; those who created, or rather did not create, anything for independence from the West are to blame for it. With such a government, we will still suffer from grief, and in five years we will see what our media will sing about the “respected” DDM, United Russia and all those who joined us.
  55. 0
    16 September 2016 20: 56
    Why shouldn’t the article be downvoted now? The article is clearly custom-made. The site was bought by Americans through non-profit organizations.
  56. 0
    16 September 2016 21: 20
    The country is a total mess. And in the economy too. No matter how much the United Russia adherents here on the site admire the implementation of civil defense, the white fluffy animal has already crept up.
  57. 0
    17 September 2016 01: 52
    Guys, let's look objectively. Yes, now it’s difficult to live the same way as since the collapse of the USSR, but Putin is doing a lot to ensure that Russia is respected and heard in the West... He is the only one and he is the first in post-USSR history who DARED to challenge the Americans and Europe
    ...!Challenge for our benefit!!! Let's support in any way we can, Eh?
  58. 0
    17 September 2016 11: 15
    Everything is gone, everything is gone!!! Putin has been leaked!!!
    Again a stream of muddy, but very paid for, liberal consciousness. These two remnants can buy more money in a store than they have in their wallet? Hardly! And I want it so bad! Both this and that. There is a saying: Stretch your legs through your clothes! Those. Live according to your means, income, in accordance with your capabilities. and there’s no point in howling that they promised it, they promised it. Our country is huge, and cataclysms are out of the question here. So the government has to turn itself almost inside out. I am not a supporter of individual actions of the government, as well as individual faces in it, but every cricket knows its nest. They are delaying the war as best they can, and for that we are grateful. And for these idle talkers, they will have a three-wheeled armored personnel carrier with a soft toilet!
  59. 0
    17 September 2016 11: 32
    a butterfly flaps its wings in the park, and storm clouds disperse over the sea))))

    Maybe start with yourself!

    We always complete everything on time at our workplace, exactly on time and according to the work schedule and the contract, we have no delays of a day, a week, a month, many months, we receive money under contracts with some delays + delay in implementation, we transfer taxes accordingly with some adjustments in time + delay in payments under the contract + delay in implementation, etc. ....this generally affects those around you and your partners, do everything on time and clouds will not gather over any industry))) Start with yourself.
  60. 0
    17 September 2016 11: 44
    American analysts should pay tribute to the fact that they turned the army into a business. They organized the circulation of investments and profits. However, all this is possible only in the case of a constant process of waging war and seizing material or resource values. Arab revolutions are not carried out for the sake of imposing their ideological values. This is the robbery of countries and compensation for investments in the army and weapons by pumping out oil and seizing trophies of all kinds. This is the support of all types of militant groups with weapons in which money is invested. You can talk for a very long time about the benefits of waging war. At the same time, Russians spend their own resources that would go to the development of Slavic civilization, investing in the army and weapons, which have no surplus value. It is simply designed for protection and requires more and more investment. Hence the lack of time and funds for the development of innovative and promising types of weapons. Therefore, until the army creates commercial profit not from sales, but from direct robbery of other countries, it will always be an anchor pulling the economy to the bottom. Yes ! All this is said wildly and cruelly. But no one canceled the fight for their viability in front of all others who want the same thing. Therefore, allies, friends, etc., always gaining strength, become predators wanting to tear off a piece from the weakening flesh of the former owner.
    All this needs to be known and accepted as a reality if we want to preserve our peace in an always opposing environment
  61. +2
    17 September 2016 12: 07
    “The budget deficit and lack of access to Western sources of financing, as well as low oil prices, are slowing down economic recovery. In general, we agree that GDP growth in 2017 will be symbolic, and inflation may not reach the 4% target,” says Kokoreva. The Central Bank is the most accurate in its forecasts, especially for inflation.
    That’s it, Central Bank analytics at the brokerage firm level, and no economics, we don’t need smart people, we need those faithful to dogma and the Fed
  62. +1
    17 September 2016 14: 39
    The authors are panicking. The assigned tasks without shortcuts must be completed unconditionally. Another two colonels of the TFR will be shaken up and scraped together to modernize the Army. We need to fight thieves and not reduce defense orders. The enemies are just waiting for this.
  63. +1
    17 September 2016 22: 49
    I can speak for myself. My company has modern lathes and milling machines. So, because of their internal order, they stopped ordering from me about 1,5 years ago. And the military (various clients) made up about 80% of my clients in terms of volume of work. Barely survived. I've been looking at government procurement recently. They buy the same parts, but 3 times higher than my price... and if my production cycle is a month, then theirs is a year!!! We need to change the procurement system and there will be enough money for everything and the deadlines will not be missed.
  64. 0
    18 September 2016 13: 57
    And I liked it about 37, it’s a pity, it’s a bit old, otherwise I would have actively participated... and then... well, at least let them shoot... soldier
  65. 0
    19 September 2016 09: 15
    One talking shop. There has been no import substitution and they are already planning to sell finished ships to someone since there are no Ukrainian engines. "Armata" may be a good tank, but no one really knows this, only testing and operation will reveal its advantages and disadvantages, especially since it is already clear, for example, that the same T72, T90 are more maneuverable. And “Armata”, as I see it, is just a heavy artillery system that will need to be accompanied by other tanks. After the modernization of the T72, for example, its armor did not improve, bald spots are visible on the hull without remote protection, they wrote about the shortcomings of the modernization here on the website. And so on and in everything, the desire to throw hats at the enemy, cheerful reports are nothing....
  66. 0
    19 September 2016 15: 48
    Guys, of course, this is all interesting, but the problem is that our army is engaged in window dressing as always. Combat training is not carried out properly and the knowledge about standard weapons that soldiers have, contract soldiers and their commanders is at a very low level. In July, It was a contract soldier's day in the city and our brave paratroopers put all their weapons on display. I talked with everyone, but I was especially struck by the platoon commander, senior lieutenant, who, when I asked about shots for the RPG-7, named only the PG-7 VL grenade and nothing else! While there are also such grenades as PG-7VR, TBG-7V, OG-7V, and the latest is OG-7V, which was put into service in 99. And the famous Motorola (maybe I’ll tell you a secret) in Ilovaisk some time ago thrashed the Bandera freaks the latest product. Nothing more to add. The situation is really bullshit
  67. +1
    20 September 2016 14: 26
    I completely share the author’s point of view!
    And a simple recipe for improving (not correcting, but improving) the situation:
    For a bribe and "cutting" - 20 years in the camps followed by lifelong loss of rights, i.e. neither to vote and be elected, nor the right to hold leadership positions.
    For "large-scale" (i.e. theft on an especially large scale) and state. treason - death penalty.
  68. 0
    20 September 2016 16: 26
    clearly and like a military report...
  69. 0
    21 September 2016 12: 03
    There is nothing more terrible and dangerous than self-confidence and complacency, they say, if something happens, we’ll kick the enemy, hold on! And the most dangerous enemies of the army and defense industry are embezzlers like these. Truly Stalinist methods are needed against such people. But who would act like that? I'm afraid no one. Once upon a time in the 30s, such businessmen and covetous people entered into an agreement with the German Junkers to purchase outdated equipment and machinery for the aviation industry, spending the currency that was allocated for the needs of the aviation industry. And only a letter from engineer Onufriev addressed to Stalin stopped this collapse of the aviation industry; the businessmen were arrested and put against the wall. And the current businessmen are quietly torpedoing the state defense order and all the president’s instructions. This is the main reason that many plans will have to be either postponed or cancelled.
  70. 0
    21 September 2016 14: 36
    Obama, of course, is something else...mo, but it’s clear that it’s still “in tatters”
  71. 0
    21 September 2016 14: 49
    Quote: mihai_md2003
    This is very unfortunate. The price of one resource can completely undermine the country's defense and economy. I don’t want to write in the style of "fucked up polymers", but someone should answer for the fact that no one has thought about critical production in the country for the last 10 fat years. The author is right to strategically plan and plan the volumes really. The price of a mistake is death, we are not playing with spillikins.



    yes, but only the death of the common people, and these thieves and traitor rats poop from the high bell tower on the common people. So it’s unlikely that anything will change. Only ’37 will return everything to the right direction.
  72. +1
    13 February 2017 15: 43
    In my opinion, the issue of equipping the army with new weapons and modernizing existing ones is very acute. It's not even about the potential of the remaining defense enterprises, it's about Medvedev's "team". This public needs to be removed from everywhere as soon as possible.
    After all, if we really look at the situation, we have few options - either pretend that everything is sweet and tasty and, as a result, get into an incomprehensible credit and tax yoke and die in convulsions (as Medvedev’s supporters want), or go through not the best times, but clenching teeth and, throwing away Ksyusha and Dim, tense up and become who we really are, so much so that no one will ever even try to discuss whose Crimea is there, and why they are bombing ISIS in Syria...
    The choice is limited, but more and more obvious, I think you can do without agitation, and it’s clear who is not on the same path...
  73. 0
    14 February 2017 19: 05
    Of course, we want a lot, our dashing checker swingers easily compare our army with the US army, our Navy with the US Navy and draw their own conclusions. But no one compares the US GDP with ours, the US military budget and ours, isn’t it clear that these are currently incomparable things. Russia is not the Soviet Union and cannot be compared with the United States, as it was before. And the tasks facing the Armed Forces are different, read the military doctrine of Russia, if Russia’s GDP has been declining during the years of the crisis, then the military budget will also be reduced, there is no escape from this.
  74. 0
    15 February 2017 13: 57
    But from the same series, how our naval and government officials cut the budget to the detriment of the fleet and defense capability. But they don’t want to publish our websites and the article, they say it’s scary, you might even get hit in the head. http://forum.topwar.ru/topic/9149-features-rus
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