"Hell's Chariot!"

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An indispensable attribute of a truly modern military equipment is a remote-controlled combat module with machine-gun, cannon or rocket weapons. Such equipment allows to provide the required firepower, as well as simplify the operation of systems, which explains the great interest shown by the military all over the world to this class of equipment. The development of new combat modules is being carried out both by recognized leaders of the world market for armaments and equipment, and by countries that can hardly count on such a title. Among other such projects is engaged in the defense industry of Ukraine. One of the newest projects in this area was named “Viy”.

Apparently, the main goal of the project, named after the character of Little Russian folklore, was to increase the firepower of military equipment and increase the range of effective fire. In addition, the project shows some features that clearly indicate an attempt to create a universal system suitable for use on various chassis, including relatively light ones. For example, an armored car “Dozor-B” with the wheel formula 4х4 was chosen as a platform for testing the “Viy” system.




The armored vehicle "Dozor-B" with the combat module "Viy". Photo Bmpd.livejournal.com


About the existence of the project of the advanced combat module "Viy" became known about a year ago. During one of the Ukrainian exhibitions dedicated to the success of the military industry, Westan Group Associates presented its new project. Then some information about the project was disclosed, revealing the architecture and capabilities of the complex. Also, the authors of the project spoke about the possible scope of the promising system. Despite all the positive assessments, at that time the module “Viy” was not yet ready for adoption. It was necessary to conduct the whole complex of tests and refinements, after which it was possible to determine the real future of the system.

According to the developer, published by the Ukrainian media, the module "Viy" is intended for installation on the existing types of light and medium armored vehicles in order to increase their combat capabilities. The use of a double-barreled 23-mm automatic cannon allows an armed Viyom combat vehicle to fight manpower, unprotected or lightly armored equipment of the enemy, and also to destroy the enemy, who is under the shelter of various buildings. There are also certain possibilities for countering airborne targets, such as a helicopter in hover mode.

In April, 2016 was published information about the tests of new weapons. A prototype of the Viy combat module from Westan Group Associates was installed on the Dozor-B armored car built by the Kiev Armored Plant. In this configuration, the car went to the site to study the main characteristics, primarily the parameters of the fire. Shortly after the tests were published photos and video firing from the new weapons. These materials make it possible to approximately estimate the capabilities and prospects of the combat module.

The most recent references to the Viy project appeared just a couple of days ago. One of the Ukrainian TV channels showed a report on the new development of the military industry, which described the main features and prospects of the project. In particular, the designer of one of the enterprises involved in the project, Andrei Polikhin, noted the sustainability of the Dozor-B armored vehicle with a combat module, and also spoke about plans to modernize the Viya. It is planned to upgrade this complex by installing additional armament and new optical-electronic systems.

"Hell's Chariot!"
The general scheme of the module. Figure Strangernn.livejournal.com


A characteristic feature of the Viy project is the extensive use of ready-made components, which undergo some changes for use as part of a new combat module. Separately, it should be noted that the main components of the module were created a few decades ago, during the times of the Soviet Union. Now, thanks to the new ideas of the Ukrainian designers, these products have found a new unexpected use as components of the combat module. Obviously, this design approach has simplified and accelerated the development of the combat module, and can also have a positive impact on the cost of mass-produced items. Nevertheless, some fundamentally fatal flaws may be associated with it.

An existing product was chosen as the main element for the new type of combat module, which acts as the main platform with mounts for other units. They became the commander's hatch of the main tank T-64A, which retained the device for mounting machine-gun weapons, and also received some other components and assemblies. It is assumed that such a base of the combat module will to some extent facilitate the production and installation of serial products on customer equipment. In the front part of the hatch there are fastenings for the swinging cradle of the gun, and in the back there are mounting devices for the ammunition box.

Means for mounting the gun, apparently, were also borrowed from the existing tanks of the Soviet development, as evidenced by the units designed to hold the gun in the desired position. However, in the light of the need to simplify and reduce the cost of construction, such a step is logical and justified. The former commander's hatch, which became the basis of the combat module, and the means of fastening the gun are completed with electric pointing drives, which allow to carry out a tip-off without direct interaction of the operator with the module. The combat module is not equipped with stabilization systems, which is served as an additional way to reduce the cost of production.

The double-barreled automatic gun GSH-23L is currently used as the main and only weapon of the Viy combat module. The gun is proposed to be placed on the existing mount, placing the trunks in a horizontal plane. In order to protect the main devices of the gun, the receiver can be closed with a box-shaped armor cover. Its task is to protect the main parts of the weapon from various external influences, such as pollution, and bullets or fragments.


Aviation gun GSH-23L. Wikimedia Commons Photos


The automatic gun GSH-23 was developed by the specialists of the Tula Instrument Design Bureau in the late fifties. After all the necessary checks and improvements to the design, in 1965, the gun was adopted. Serial production was carried out by the weapons factory in the town of Kovrov. Initially, the gun GSH-23 was intended for use on aircraft of various classes and types. Thus, front-line aviation received guns as course weapons, while strategic bombers, military transport aircraft and other vehicles were equipped with cannon-feed installations. Also, similar weapons received helicopters of several types. In addition, suspended cannon containers with the GSH-23 were developed. At the same time, however, the use of a cannon on ground-based equipment was not envisaged by the project. Land combat vehicles had to carry small-caliber artillery of other types.

One of the main tasks of the GSH-23 project was to increase the rate of fire to the maximum possible values. To solve this problem was used so-called. Gast scheme with the use of two moving shafts, rollback of one of which provides recharge of the second. Despite the presence of some problems in the early prototypes, during the refinement, it was possible to achieve high reliability of work and fulfillment of the technical requirements of the customer. The gun GSH-23, having two barrels, was able to make up to 3400 rounds per minute, which made it an effective weapon for various aircraft. Also the gun GSH-23L was developed, which was distinguished by the use of localizers - devices for removal of powder gases in the right direction.

Product GSH-23 / GSH-23L has a total length of about 1,5 m and weighs 50 kg. Depending on the type of projectile (shot 23х115 mm), the initial speed is provided from 690 to 890 m / s. The effective range of shooting - up to 2 km. Descent control is carried out by an electrical system. For storage and supply of ammunition used loose metal tape, placed in boxes inside the carrier. To reduce recoil to an acceptable level, both barrels of the guns received an advanced muzzle brake.

As follows from the available data, when installed on the Viy combat module, the initial aviation instrument of the GSH-23L does not undergo any changes. The receiver box of the product is fixed on the existing installation, and the electrical trigger system is connected to the control equipment. Significant design improvements are not foreseen. Apparently, the design of the combat module was created "around" the existing gun and taking into account its features.


Early version of "Wii" during the checks. Frame from the video from the test


The Viy project envisages the use of original ammunition storage systems and the discharge of spent cartridges with tape links. To transport ready-to-use ammunition, it is proposed to use a shell box mounted on the rear of the tank hatch. To connect the box to the hatch, a bracket of the appropriate size and shape is used, which has three points of support on the base unit. The box is made in the form of a half ring and has a flip top cover, secured in place with a set of latches. To load ammunition, you need to open the lid and manually lay the tape with the shells. The dimensions of the used box, according to the project developers, allow us to transport up to 250 23 x115 mm shells.

There is a small window on the right side of the tool box, to which a flexible metal sleeve of rectangular section is attached. The sleeve connects with the second end to the guide placed on the gun installation. The tape is fed directly to the gun by means of a closed curved guide. The use of a flexible sleeve that connects the box and the guide near the gun, allows for the supply of ammunition when shooting with different elevation angles.

To the left of the gun on the installation is a box for collecting cartridges. In its upper lid provides a receiving opening, which includes a sleeve connected to the ejection window of the gun. However, if necessary, the ejection of the sleeves can be carried out. In this case, the sleeve flies forward and upward from the combat module.

To the left of the box for sleeves on a swinging base is placed armor cover with optical-electronic systems. In the existing version, the module “Wii” receives surveillance equipment of the type OTC-20.01, created by the Research Institute “Kvant”. The device includes a television camera and a thermal imager, which make it possible to observe and use weapons at any time of the day and under any meteorological conditions. The possibility of observing targets at distances to 4 km in the daytime and to 900-1100 m at night has been announced. As a backup aiming system, a periscopic ROM-5 sight, borrowed from the main tanks of older models, is used.


Armored car with an updated combat module. Frame from the video from the test


Control of the Viy combat module is carried out with the help of an operator console installed inside the base armored vehicle. Equipping the module itself and the console allows you to monitor at any time of the day, search for targets and fire at them. In this case, as shown by the video from the tests, in some cases, the operator of the complex has to manually interact with the internal units of the combat module. The shooting control system provides several modes, from full-fledged automatic fire to shooting with a cutoff of several shots. In this case, the operator can set the queue length from 4 to 32 shots.

According to recent reports, in the future, the combat module "Viy" may receive some new equipment. Thus, the issue of using a new type of thermal imaging equipment capable of improving the combat capabilities of technology is being considered. In addition, the presence of only 23-mm double-barreled gun has already become a pretext for claims to the versatility of the system. Because of this, in the foreseeable future, the module is planned to be equipped with a twin machine gun, which will be used to attack manpower or unprotected vehicles.

To date, the project of the remotely controlled combat module “Viy” has reached the stage of assembling and testing prototypes. At least one new-type module has already been manufactured and installed on the existing sample of equipment, which became the Dozor-B armored vehicle. At the same time, some features of equipment configuration and painting suggest that during the tests, which took place at least since last fall, the Viy system underwent some modifications and was improved. It is not known whether the existing prototype was improved or the second one was assembled with a new complete set.

According to reports, the Viy project is still at the stages of testing and refinement. Any information about the possible adoption of this system in service and the deployment of mass production has not yet been published. Moreover, there is every reason to believe that a promising combat module will not at all come to actual operation for economic, technical, bureaucratic, or other reasons. It is no secret that the current situation in Ukraine does not at all contribute to the mass production of various types of weapons and equipment. Thus, the real prospects of “Viya” are still questionable.


Late version of the combat module with a new gun cover. Photo Defense-ua.com


While the further fate of the new foreign combat module is not defined, you can try to deal with the pros and cons of this development. As always happens with new interesting projects, “Viy” has both advantages and disadvantages. At the same time, the balance of advantages and disadvantages can also have a noticeable impact on the future development. In its current form, the combat module has serious problems that can, at a minimum, limit the scope of its use, or make it unsuitable for full use.

The study of the new project will begin with the obvious advantages. First of all, it should be noted that the installation of small-caliber artillery on light armored vehicles has very great prospects and is capable of giving great advantages over competing developments. In comparison with the "traditional" machine-gun armament of such equipment, the effective range of fire increases, as well as its power when projectiles impact the target. As a result, an armored car with automatic guns can fight with an expanded range of targets, which accordingly affects its areas of application and the effectiveness of combat missions.

The proposed combat module concept also has an advantage in the form of potential compatibility with various carrier vehicles. Currently, only the Dozor-B armored vehicle is equipped with the Viy module, but in the future any other combat vehicles will be able to receive it. Probably, over time, there may even be a proposal to install the Viy on the main tanks, from which the commander’s hatch was previously borrowed. As a result, there are prospects associated with the wide distribution and unification of relatively powerful weapons.

The last advantage of the “Viy” system is the possible reduction of production costs due to the extensive use of finished components. The support device and tool for this module are borrowed from existing equipment or taken from warehouses, which reduces the list of parts that need to be manufactured from scratch. In the future, this may facilitate, speed up and cheapen the output of the required products.


The current state of an experienced armored car. Shot from 5 channel report


The proposed combat module "Wii" from the company Westan Group Associates has several advantages, but this development is not without negative features. All of them are able to complicate or make impossible the full operation of weapons for planned purposes.

First of all, we should recall the origin and purpose of the gun GSH-23L. It was developed for the armament of aviation technology, which affected some of the design features. In particular, the tool had to work at a certain height above the ground, which allowed developers to reduce the resistance to pollution. As a result, operation of the GSH-23L on ground-based equipment in appropriate conditions can lead to regular delays in shooting, "wedges" and other unpleasant consequences that interfere with shooting or exclude it.

The second feature of the aircraft gun, which makes it difficult to operate in a new role, is a high rate of fire. At the maximum rate of fire at the level of 3400 rounds per minute, each of the two barrels per second sends about 28 projectiles to the target. Thus, the ammunition from 250 shells enough for less than 4,5 with continuous shooting. By some adjustments, the rate of fire can be reduced, but even in this case the GSH-23L will not be able to show the required economy in terms of ammunition.

One of the advantages of the “Wii” module is the absence of a stabilizer, which reduces the cost of the product. But in fact this is not an advantage, but a serious drawback. Due to a sufficiently large recoil force, the combat module will not be able to hold the gun in the desired position. As a result, only the first few rounds of the missile will go in the direction of the target, while the rest are guaranteed to go to the side. We should also recall the videotape of tests, in which even single shots from a cannon make the base armored vehicle sway noticeably. You can imagine how the wheeled vehicle will react to a long line.


Experienced "Wii". You can clearly see the location of the trunks and the casing of the receiver. Shot from 5 channel report


Finally, it is necessary to pay attention to the lack of additional armament rifle caliber. The absence of a machine gun can either limit the combat capabilities of the module, or lead to an additional expenditure of ammunition for unprotected nearby targets, for which the power of the GSH-23L gun is excessive. This deficiency, however, is planned to be corrected with the further development of the project.

As we see, at the moment the project of the remotely controlled combat module “Viy” is an ambiguous development. At the level of the general concept and in terms of some design features, the module is of particular interest in the context of the development of armaments and military equipment. At the same time, the project has a number of characteristic flaws that cannot be eliminated without a radical reworking of all elements of the module. For example, a significant number of drawbacks are associated with the use of an aircraft gun, which is not very well adapted for ground use. To correct them, it is necessary to use other weapons, which the authors of the “Wii” project, apparently, simply do not have.

Since the first demonstration of the promising module "Wii" has been going for the second year. Since that time, the development has been tested and improved, as well as several times shown to the military, specialists and the general public. However, and after all this, the real prospects of the module remain in question. The difficult economic situation in Ukraine can close the road to mass production by stopping it at the testing stage. If this stage is successfully completed, then problems may arise later and at any time. Moreover, even a successful production of Viy in the series with the delivery of finished equipment to the troops may not give the expected results due to the presence of a number of technical problems associated with the peculiarities of combat use. Thus, in any case, the real prospects of a new development are very doubtful.

And yet, the project "Wii" is of particular interest. This interest is primarily associated with the technical features of the development. In addition, the module is indicative in the context of the use of unsuccessful and dubious decisions, since it vividly demonstrates how new weapons systems should not be made. Finally, not the most successful development of the Ukrainian industry attracted public attention with its name. This has already led to a mass of jokes based on the folklore and the work of the same name by N.V. Gogol.

* “Hell's Chariot!” - a phrase from the movie “Viy”

On the materials of the sites:
http://defence-ua.com/
http://ridus.ru/
http://airwar.ru/
http://andrei-bt.livejournal.com/
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/
http://strangernn.livejournal.com/
Tests of the combat module:


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  1. avt
    +9
    14 September 2016 15: 36
    In short - they removed the double-barreled gun from the Mi-24 VP and attached it to their own "Shame"
    1. 52
      +2
      14 September 2016 15: 54
      And here the propeller wing is from old MiGs. And yes, they are not the first Bulgars, or the logs already put the GS-23 on the equipment.
    2. +6
      14 September 2016 16: 06
      Operational survivability of the barrels of 2000 rounds. When firing in long bursts, the projectile can skew. In the event of a delay, the hammer is locked, a special key is taken, and jerking of moving parts, which can be called a more capacious expression, started. Take a minimum of 5 minutes.
    3. +3
      14 September 2016 16: 19
      Which is logical, because as practice (ATO) has shown, flying is not their destiny.
      Yes, and use on earth a temporary measure (until Soviet stocks run out in warehouses). They position themselves as supporters of the North Atlantic Alliance, while NATO has different standards. It can only be an export option ....
    4. +2
      14 September 2016 21: 07
      One single question, where is the cooler? It is clear in the air, the oncoming stream, but on the "shame" apparently a bucket of water !?
  2. PKK
    0
    14 September 2016 15: 51
    Who argues, the module is good, but not brought to mind, the first thing was to do liquid cooling of the trunks, and then everything else.
    1. avt
      +4
      14 September 2016 15: 56
      Quote: PKK
      it was necessary to do liquid cooling of the trunks, and then everything else.

      wassat Like on a Maxim machine gun ???? Well and sho tse take bude ?? Type still behind the tank on the trailer to carry a trailer?laughing
      1. +7
        14 September 2016 16: 22
        why a tank - next to that there are no ssykuns ...
      2. 0
        9 November 2016 12: 12
        There, besides the tank, you also need a trailer with BC, there will be a combat road train! But in general, I understand the Ukrainians-aviation already in the air can not be raised by any prayers, what good is to disappear! bully
    2. 0
      14 September 2016 16: 19
      Yes, they just stumbled on apparently stocked warehouses, so they built it. I’m interested in another moment. How is aiming carried out?
    3. +2
      14 September 2016 16: 42
      Quote: PKK
      Who argues, the module is good, but not brought to mind, the first thing was to do liquid cooling of the trunks, and then everything else.

      Shooting in bursts is most likely contraindicated. Of such a double-barreled shotgun, the most is single doublets.
  3. +3
    14 September 2016 15: 54
    I did not see a single plus but cheapness, and it’s not a plus, but, it seems, a cross.
    1. 0
      15 September 2016 01: 45
      I did not see a single plus but cheap

      Well yes. Just don't criticize them too much. We are of the same blood.
      Here are a couple of links to this site over the past two weeks:
      https://topwar.ru/100026-novyy-kompleks-so-120-mm
      -minometom-ot-uralvagonzavoda.html
      https://topwar.ru/100267-samohodnoe-artilleriysko
      e-orudie-floks.html
      I am a techie, but I have a question for the military: What is the tactic of its application? It can be used as a reconnaissance vehicle, or to pursue a retreating enemy (both tasks are for cavalry in the past).
      If I am right, it means that our brothers are preparing to drive their brothers to the Pacific Ocean in order to end their campaign there. There is no way to get without Patrols.
      There is another possibility of their use - the fight against poorly armed partisans such as the Papuans. But where do you find such Papuans now?
      Or maybe everything is easier? Phlox, Sleigh on Patriot, IL-114 (in addition to IL-112), aircraft carriers. Metal, despicable metal. Well, and ignoramuses, of course. What metal without them?
  4. +2
    14 September 2016 16: 15
    interesting and stands for garnia shmalyavilka 23 caliber
    1. +15
      14 September 2016 16: 23
      Gryazev, Shipunov. Gun developers.
      1. 0
        20 December 2016 10: 59
        On the contrary - Shipunov, Gryazev.
  5. +3
    14 September 2016 17: 09
    Thanks to the author for the review, succinctly and to the point about the pros and cons. As for the experience of installing aircraft cannons on armored vehicles, Ukrainian engineers did not discover America, you don't have to go far, just remember the Soviet tank of the Second World War T-60 with the TNSH-20 cannon reworked for use on the ground, in the original aviation version - ShVAK. Perhaps, with the exception of the caliber, rate of fire and other power supply system, the difference over 70 years is insignificant. So maybe it was easier to modernize the model of an old tank with an old cannon than deliberately worsen the aircraft cannon by "finishing" it to the requirements of the ground forces? :)
    1. +6
      14 September 2016 18: 37
      Quote: Blue Fox
      As for the experience of installing aircraft cannons on armored vehicles, the Ukrainian engineers did not discover America, there is no need to go far, it is enough to recall the Soviet tank of the Second World War T-60 with the TNSH-20 cannon reworked for use on the ground, in the original aviation version - ShVAK. Perhaps, with the exception of the caliber, rate of fire and other power supply system, the difference over 70 years is insignificant. So maybe it was easier to modernize the model of an old tank with an old cannon than deliberately worsen the aircraft cannon by "finishing" it to the requirements of the ground forces? :)

      Hehehehe ... you remembered the T-60 well. Because the example of the T-60 just shows all the difficulties that arise when arming ground equipment with an aircraft gun.
      The fact is that in the summer of 1942, mass complaints of TNS refusals went from the armored units. It turned out that, despite all the measures to adapt the ShVAK to installation in ground equipment, the resulting gun was still extremely sensitive to dust and required competent maintenance.
      The source gun with these points was doing well: it only encountered dust during take-off, and weapons equipment regularly performed maintenance. And there was more than enough dust in the BTV - on the march and in battle. And the crew and the crew as a whole were engaged in servicing the guns - as many as two people.

      Seems to me. that GSH-23 on earth will have the same problems as TNSh. If not more - because no one has completed the refinement for ground use.
  6. +13
    14 September 2016 17: 16
    I've been reading VO for a long time ... However, there is a tendency: as the domestic military-industrial complex, so "everything is buzzing, but not enough!", "Keep it up!", "It's high time." Like Ukraine, So "deer" "old stocks", etc. etc.
    Urapatriots are fucking divorced! There are less and less objective people! It's a pity they removed the minus! I would have passed it with great pleasure, and then I would have explained why! And now this tolerant homosexual, who came from Facebook: either "+", or nothing! But I didn’t want to say about the cons! ))
    News about the fact that in Ukraine they are trying to create something. Yes, there are no productions of many (stopped), they use what is in warehouses. Would you do this differently in a similar situation? What did we have in the 90s? I am not talking about the reasons for the emergence of this economic situation "with them" and "with us". Survived in similar ways! The question is different, namely: THEIR MIC "HAS NOT DIE" YET. And this is indicative to a certain extent. And with their "current" political elite it is not weak enough, personally, it annoys me! The fact that "sausage" their armored cars is not weak when fired - yes, there is.
    But the first "bullets" with a normal sighting system can fly quite accurately. And I saw these shells live. The armor-piercing ones were welded to the sledgehammer and the concrete blocks were hammered into the dust for MONTHS, only the "skirt" was cut off! So one projectile can do some mischief taking into account that it has a "skirt" (I don't know how this element of the projectile is called correctly) like a daisy when it hits it! So the hole from hitting nifig is not 23 mm! And this can still become an unpleasant fact for the LPR and DPR!
    Therefore, I would like to ask you to look at news things more critically! Evaluate, analyze, and not stupid "hurray this device is # ours" or "here they have guano, we have better" ...



    BB shell with a "skirt"
    1. 0
      14 September 2016 18: 08
      I fully support you.
      And as for the automatic firing of a burst with this aircraft gun ...- it is not needed there and you can shoot in semi-automatic mode, the rate of fire will remain effective and the ammunition consumption will be significantly reduced. But a stabilization system is needed.
      And they, despite the devastation in the country, are making an arms system ..... at least a taika
    2. +2
      14 September 2016 19: 15
      Quote: Fast_mutant
      And with their "current" political elite it is not weak enough, personally, it annoys me! The fact that "sausage" their armored cars is not weak when fired - yes, there is.
      But the first "bullets" with a normal sighting system can fly quite accurately.

      This is if the gun fires.

      The fact is that now "Viy" is shooting during tests. With the factory team and with the factory service - in the "TO - short tests with shooting - TO" mode. In such conditions, even the ShVAK and the Taubin grenade launcher were reliable.

      But when he gets into the linear parts, where to operate it and do the EU, maintenance and repair will be ordinary conscripts and ordinary technicians - in cash, parts and tools - then the fun begins. What will become a tender air cannon with such use, I’m even afraid to imagine ...
    3. 0
      14 September 2016 21: 58
      Quote: Fast_mutant
      Evaluate, analyze, and not stupid "hurray this device is # ours" or "here they have guano, we have better" ...

      Here WUA 518 Today, 16:06 posted the kinetic diagram of this invention.
      1 So, based on the complexity of the mechanism, it is also necessary to prepare the attendants, a matter of time, the availability of such devices in the troops and of course financial means. Anything can end without starting. Each item is a specific task.
      2 Judging from the above diagram, it is not clear how the problem of cooling these trunks on land was solved.
      3 According to the information provided, the resource of the barrel is 2000 shots, it may turn out that this is a disposable weapon.
    4. +1
      15 September 2016 09: 17
      Now the equipment is protected from our 30-mm gun and KPVT almost in a circle, armor-piercing 23-mm, and from a short barrel, except that the sights will be demolished. The huge rate of fire of shells will be consumed by my mother. Do not worry, but the fragmentation effect is weak - you need to shoot a lot. The gun is sensitive to dust. It is not produced in Ukraine - somewhere in the warehouses they found a mountain and poked from an armored personnel carrier to a tank, and it has never passed an adequate test.
  7. +3
    14 September 2016 18: 21
    In the 60s, there was experience in using the modification of the AN-23 of the upper tower installation from the Tu-95 on border and torpedo boats, 2 pcs. The AN-23 mount had 2 23-mm aircraft AM-23 assault rifles. Radar guidance. The rate of fire of one barrel was 1200 rpm, the ammunition load of the unit was 1000 rds. firing range-2000m. projectile weight 184-176gr, beginning speed 690-710m / sec. I want to note that the Soviet aviation adopted 23-mm NS-23 ammunition, developed on the basis of 14,5 * 115 rounds from the PTR. as more fully meeting the required compactness of installations. but also much weaker. than the VYa projectile for "Shilka" of the same caliber. Unmanned combat module is of course a "trend", but its power is also important !!
  8. 0
    14 September 2016 20: 02
    Apparently there is a sight. Bursts of 4 shells are also present. This will help save ammunition. Therefore, the 4,5 seconds of ammunition consumption indicated in the article is a little incorrect. Dust is a great problem. The life of the barrels will be measured at 4-6 ammunition. In my opinion, barrels are not produced in Ukraine, these are old stocks. Not from a good life they cross a "snake with a hedgehog". There will be no large-scale production. So, show-off for the electorate. Prototype. Maybe the specialists will correct me. The article is informative, plus the author hi
  9. 0
    14 September 2016 20: 07
    Quote: Alexey RA
    But when he gets into the linear parts, where to operate it and do the EU, maintenance and repair will be ordinary conscripts and ordinary technicians - in cash, parts and tools - then the fun begins. What will become a tender air cannon with such use, I’m even afraid to imagine ...


    Well, it seems that all the military equipment of the USSR was both quite reliable and was serviced by almost one 13 wrench and a screwdriver. And among the recruits now there are quite a lot with higher education. So it seems to me that with a certain training of personnel, this product can be fully serviced. But with the management system, I agree, problems may arise. But this can also be solved in the form of contractors (in the sense of better training regarding conscripts).
    1. +2
      15 September 2016 10: 21
      Quote: Fast_mutant
      Well, it seems that all the military equipment of the USSR was both quite reliable and was serviced by almost one 13 wrench and a screwdriver.

      Do not confuse the ground forces and the Air Force. GSH-23 was created specifically for the Air Force, where conscripts only guarded airfields and drove auxiliary equipment. smile
      Quote: Fast_mutant
      And among the recruits now there are quite a lot with higher education.

      Improving the education level of personnel now weakly correlates with technical skills.
      I can cite as an example of our potential enemy: in the 90s, the US Army had to order the development of a simplified version of the good old "Ma Deuce" - the personnel crippled themselves and disabled machine guns, since they could not perform all the adjustments in the machine gun correctly "when birth ".
  10. 0
    15 September 2016 08: 37
    so much money would be better spent on education and health care. you look smarter people would be and it was not necessary to fight.
    1. +1
      16 September 2016 13: 17
      Quote: 501Legion
      you look smarter people would be and it was not necessary to fight.

      Well this is unlikely. The whole history of mankind is millennia of wars and conflicts.
      That's how we are arranged.
  11. +1
    20 September 2016 14: 08
    An obvious attempt to put into business is the old stocks.

    The rate of fire for the wheeled platform is excessive, the wheeled platform is not so stable, unlike the tracked one. The author quite rightly drew attention to this.

    The effectiveness of 23 mm of ammunition is insufficient when working on armored vehicles such as BMP in the frontal projection at a distance of more than 1 km. At the same time, 30 mm BMP ammunition will be effective from 3 km.
    Against infantry - insufficient high-explosive action of 23 mm ammunition. It is impossible to "smoke" the infantry from the shelter.

    For patrol vehicles of this purpose, a twin combat module with a rifle caliber machine gun (zone 20-1000 m) and a 30-40 mm grenade launcher (zone 100-2500m) is optimal
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    26 October 2016 13: 02
    "The module will be brought to mind within 2 years ..." T-64E -2011
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    24 December 2016 10: 34
    How so? This cannon is an invention of "quilted jackets" and the communists, a natural zrada. belay
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    26 December 2016 13: 40
    I think it would be possible to try to increase the BC to have it on the roof over its entire area. And do not hide inside, like the example of a tiger. For example, a store for the entire length of the roof. Shot off? An empty box is thrown off for reloading, the next one moves and charging is carried out, or the likeness of a machine-gun box, only extended in height and set on the front side. (at some robot of our box they lengthened the PC. At first I thought that they put a shield for some reason, it turned out to be a box with ribbons of a very large volume, I suggest trying to come up with for tigers. In short, the whole roof should be a try for cartridges.) jeeps. And other equipment. 30mm on a tiger is certainly cool but it's not a jeep it's a turret. In addition to the cannon, he is not transporting anyone.