The Turkish military attache was summoned to the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation, and the deputy speaker of the Italian Senate accused Turkey of joining the war on the side of ISIS

November 24, 2015 426

Press Service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation spreads the message that the Turkish military attaches were summoned to the main defense department of the country in connection with the strike by the Turkish air force on a Russian plane that took part in counter-terrorism measures in Syria. From the message of the press service of the Russian Ministry of Defense:

Today at 9:30 am, a Russian aircraft carrying out combat missions to combat terrorism was shot down by a Turkish Air Force aircraft. The Russian plane did not cross the Turkish border and operated exclusively on facilities in Syria. The fighting of the Russian aviation were fought against illegal terrorist groups, which include a large number of militants from the North Caucasus of Russia.

Attempts by specialists from the Russian Defense Ministry to organize interaction with the Turkish side through emergency communications were unsuccessful.

What follows is a very mild formulation for the status of the defense department:

We consider the actions of the Turkish Air Force as unfriendly act.

It is extremely difficult to come up with a softer wording in this situation ...

The Turkish military attache was summoned to the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation, and the deputy speaker of the Italian Senate accused Turkey of joining the war on the side of ISIS

The Ministry of Defense continues:

Currently, the Russian Ministry of Defense is developing a set of measures to respond to such incidents.
Fighting against terrorists in Syria will continue.

Today, striking a Russian aircraft is one of the main topics of discussion in different countries. So, in Italy, Deputy Chairman of the Senate Roberto Calderoli, commenting on what happened, called Turkey "the Trojan horse of radical Islamists, which they use to shoot at the West." According to Roberto Calderali, Turkey officially entered the war on the side of ISIS today.

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Vlad5307

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24 November 2015 21: 04

The vile act of Erdoganchik’s soldiers d.b. cause severe action and cause serious not only political but also economic damage to Turkey. Namely, for a downed plane they must pay in gold according to the weight of the plane, if one of the crew died - lifelong maintenance of family members at the expense of the Turkish treasury, public repentance of the President of Turkey, punishment of those who gave this criminal order, and also destroy all pipelines through which the Turks pump oil to the port and be sure to cancel visa-free entry and exit with Turkey, ban Russian citizens from holidays and tourism in Turkey (no need to wait until the soldiers of the Iblis state start killing and capturing Russian tourists in batches), sever all economic ties until until an official apology is made from the Turkish President and compensation for Russia's losses. We need to put pressure economically, then Erdogan’s days will be numbered, but there are enough people who want to take his place and there are reasonable, adequate people who think not only about their pockets, like the Erdogan family! This is the kind of ultimatum that Erdogashka-poop needs!
Signal

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24 November 2015 21: 06

In Russia 1 was reported: As a result of the search operation, the Mi-8 was lost. A Marine was killed... The rest were evacuated. The video that is currently circulating on the Internet is apparently not fake... Another guy left. Burn with fire, Türkiye.
nail

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24 November 2015 21: 06

As with Ukraine, they will wipe the spit and continue to cooperate.
mmmsoc

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24 November 2015 21: 07

If the Caspian Flotilla attacked ISIS in Syria with its lionfish, maybe it makes sense to target Turkey as well (supposedly there was a failure of navigation systems, or something like that)?
Reptiloid

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24 November 2015 21: 11

Quote: Monster_Fat
The feeling of “de jà vu” does not leave me: Crimea, old enemies - a coalition of Anglo-Saxons, Turks, French... .

Yes, there is an attack on Russia in different directions. RUSSIA means someone is very sick!
Or is it approaching some important point? No return? Something is happening, invisible, behind the scenes.
Feeling DE JA VU. I believe that past experience will help.
1. Roman Skomorokhov
  
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  24 November 2015 23: 23
  
  Quote: Reptiloid
  RUSSIA means someone is really fed up with it!
  
  Erdogan's son, who sells ISIS oil.
CadetXXX

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24 November 2015 21: 12

In addition, as Lieutenant General S.F. Rudsky said today, a Mi-8 helicopter was lost during a search and rescue operation and one contract Marine was killed, this is the limit when a worthy response will follow, and not call it an unfriendly act, why were they allowed to leave 2m with this fucking F-16
bashkort

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24 November 2015 21: 12

Maybe it was already answered somewhere, but I didn't notice. I heard earlier myself that for safety reasons, our attack crews fly in pairs, never alone. Where is our second plane? Why didn’t you adequately respond to the attack? If the Turks can easily shoot down our attack aircraft, then we should have thought about this issue right away; for more than 70 years (after 1941) it has been known that attack aircraft and bombers do not fly alone on attack missions; fighter cover is a must. Something is clearly wrong with our planning of the operation in the Syrian Arab Republic, because it was a no brainer that Erdogan would definitely pull some kind of trick. The Turks themselves write about this in chats, the FSB and the GRU did not finalize it, “it doesn’t count.”
1. Ze Kot
  
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  25 November 2015 10: 39
  
  Quote: bashkort
  Maybe it was already answered somewhere, but I didn't notice. I heard earlier myself that for safety reasons, our attack crews fly in pairs, never alone. Where is our second plane? Why didn’t you adequately respond to the attack?
  
  Why didn’t the second plane, if there was one, process the potential landing site of the pilots of the downed plane?
  
  And, by the way, the video shows that the wings of the plane are perpendicular to the body. Isn't this landing mode? Why was he flying over enemy territory in this mode?
ratfly

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24 November 2015 21: 18

I will wait for the downed Turkish planes that “accidentally flew” into Syrian territory. And the Turkish killer on the F16 is wanted. Well, now our broad help to the Kurds! Previously, so that Turkish partners would not be offended, they told the Kurds to give up.
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for_White_Only

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24 November 2015 21: 21

as an option: give the Kurds “Igla”, for example, or something more serious, shoot down a Turkish plane with their hands, preferably two.
seregatara1969

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24 November 2015 21: 25

I will never buy anything made in Turkey again.
isker

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24 November 2015 21: 26

I wonder how the Turkish businessmen who skipped to Crimea feel now, right up to the construction of their Crimea-Turkey ferry line, not counting the heaps of money poured into Crimean investments?.. and this is just a pale shadow of what is coming (I want to believe) response to the storm!
BaLaLaykin

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24 November 2015 21: 31

Obamasaur decided to cover up Erdogad, tomorrow the French bulldog is going to Russia, they will try to hush it up
BaLaLaykin

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24 November 2015 21: 35

The cruiser Moscow will occupy an area in the coastal part of Latakia. The ship is equipped with a Fort air defense system, similar to the S-300.

All targets that may be dangerous to the aviation of the Russian Aerospace Forces will be immediately destroyed. This was stated in the Ministry of Defense of Russia.
The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation said that henceforth all sorties of attack aircraft in Syria will be carried out under the guise of fighters. It is reported by Interfax.
Russia has taken up the closure of the sky over Syria
audience

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24 November 2015 21: 36

What about Turkish companies on our land??? What if everyone there is “barmalei”??
tchoni

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24 November 2015 21: 37

And I’ll tell you something else. I consider it a betrayal of the dead guys that the F16 that shot it down didn’t stick into the ground next to the drying ground... And don’t say that we can... Articles periodically flashed on the pages about the Su30, capable of shooting down raptors and lightnings in batches. .. What can we say about f16, so they just didn’t want to... Or they just didn’t have the will...
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BaLaLaykin

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24 November 2015 21: 42

Quote: zritel
What about Turkish companies on our land??? What if everyone there is “barmalei”??

escort out, with motivation for assisting terrorists
skobars

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24 November 2015 21: 46

The Turks used to easily fly into Syria to bomb the Kurds, now we have the moral right to arm these Kurds with air defense systems. I remember how the Turks fed the Chechen militants in every possible way, now it’s our turn to give them what they deserve.
Nymp

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24 November 2015 21: 51

There must be a reaction! The whole world is now quiet and waiting for Moscow’s reaction. And in this situation, even a prolonged pause plays against Russia. If the response is at least not equivalent to an act of the “Turkish gambit,” then our entire triumphant return to the political stage will turn into a clownery. I'm sure GDP understands this.
meronem

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24 November 2015 21: 53

Information appeared in the news feed that NATO confirms the presence of the Su-24 in Turkish airspace for as much as 17(!) seconds.
Dikson

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24 November 2015 21: 55

Russian Defense Ministry: there will be no military response.. are there any questions? NATO has confirmed the Turkish version and is not going to “dump” its ally... Let’s wipe ourselves off. The Marine guy also died and the helicopter was lost...
sanya0974

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24 November 2015 21: 56

I understand that it sounds valuable, but by knocking down the drying, the Turks did themselves a disservice. Of course they won’t bomb Turkey, but God himself ordered to clear the border with Syria, of course with the Turkemen. Then the introduction of a no-fly zone from Turkey and the automatic destruction of any target in Syrian airspace, and help the Kurds for a further response to the Turks
Victor1

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24 November 2015 21: 57

Black Tuesday for us, one pilot died, the fate of the second is unknown, let's hope he survives. A rescue helicopter was also shot down, killing one paratrooper. Eternal memory to the Heroes.
The Turks need to respond as harshly as possible and continue to shoot down all their planes that violate the border with Syria. Ban tourism in Turkey, ban all products from Turkey. All construction companies should be expelled from Russia. Turn off the gas. Freeze the construction of nuclear power plants and expel all Turkish students from Russia.
Will Putin have the courage to make an adequate response or will he swallow everything?
This is a provocation and a test of weakness, they want to see the reaction. We prepared for this operation in advance. And it is coordinated between the Turks and ISIS. They hit the plane and the rescue team.
If they let everything go to the brakes, they will wipe their feet on us and simply destroy us.
If the co-pilot also died, bombard the entire area with volumetric or vacuum bombs and burn everything out.
We need decisive and adequate action on the part of the state to respond to an obvious act of aggression against us.
viktor561

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24 November 2015 22: 00

Yes, the Turks screwed up and badly - Cyprus asked for help - Russia will now help - now run away from the island, the Kurds asked for half of Turkey - Russia will now help - how do you like Erdogan? - warm - and even they recognize you as an accomplice of terrorists
da Vinci

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24 November 2015 22: 01

Drop leaflets over the militants: “We give 1 hour. And that’s it...”
Laksamana besar

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24 November 2015 22: 09

Speech by Sergei Rudsky, Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces, on the fact of the Turkish Air Force attack on the Russian Su-24M:
S_Baykala

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24 November 2015 22: 19

Your division! There are no words... Security was completely lost....

But...after all, Russia is a state of the highest level (and has been behaving accordingly for the last 15 years, practically conducting all actions only in accordance with the norms of international law), there are too many limiting factors for an immediate military response:
1) There is no reliable information yet about whether our pilots died. A separate point is the death of our Marine. But the Turks seem to have nothing to do with this, bitches.
2) A lot of our fellow citizens vacation in the Turkish region. These are hostages.
3) Our countries are connected by too many business relations (joint multi-billion dollar projects), I understand that I can catch a bunch of minuses with this point, but you can’t erase the words from the song.
4) Turkey is a NATO member; in the event of aggression against a NATO member, war is, in fact, automatically declared on the entire bloc..
I hope our leadership will act wisely and adequately, so that those involved in the death of our guys will curse the hour when they decided to do this. And may they not live long after this...
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pvv113

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24 November 2015 22: 24

According to Turkish media reports, the S-400, which is not officially there (is there an analogue on ships?), Has been activated in Syria and is leading all Turkish military fighters near the border with Syria.
There was no order to shoot down so far, but it can arrive at any second, as soon as Russia considers that Turkish fighters crossed the Syrian border for 5-10 seconds.
There is no more detailed information yet, but most likely Russia has actually activated air defense / missile defense systems for Turkish targets in order to secure the search mission. At the moment, it can be stated that the Turkish Air Force is regarded as hostile, which means that any entry into the affected area will be considered as an attack and Turkish aircraft will be shot down.
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Yarik

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24 November 2015 22: 30

RIA News
21:49
NATO welcomes continued contacts between Ankara and Moscow

Me too. Our president is behind, Erdogan is in front. At the same time he will show himself as a leader, “I’m in front!!!”
DOMINO100

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24 November 2015 22: 32

You Russians are strange people!!! the whole world does not trust the Turks. Even the Americans and everyone in NATO! and you are crawling towards Erdogan with the pipeline. And what articles were Russia and Türkiye brothers for ever! clowns! look at the articles on this site when they signed the agreement! Still, they licked the Turks’ ass and tried to be the first to sing a song in the name of the Turkish president, like now we’ll pull the Turks towards us and she’ll leave NATO, etc. in short! I wrote before and after this agreement. Nothing good will come of it with the Turks. Doesn’t history teach you Russians anything??? They allegedly fought 10 wars. 2 times on the side of the Germans they opposed Russia - and that’s not enough for you! Well, then you’ll continue to slurp cabbage soup with bast shoes, dear Russians. Sorry, but you don’t look like a smart nation with such situations. Sorry if anyone backlog
1. atalef
  
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  24 November 2015 22: 40
  
  Quote: DOMINO100
  the whole world does not trust the Turks. Even the Americans and everyone in NATO!
  
  Erdogan, with his Pan-Turkism, ruined relations with everyone
  Quote: DOMINO100
  ! look at the articles on this site when they signed the agreement! Still, they licked the Turks’ ass and tried to be the first to sing a song in the name of the Turkish president, like now we’ll pull the Turks closer to us and she’ll leave NATO, etc. in short
  
  Yes, I remember the same. Turkish provocation with the delivery of humanitarian aid to Gaza. (when Israeli special forces killed 9 Turks. At the same time, they shouted to the whole world that these were peaceful Turks with a humanitarian cargo, although
  Some of the passengers of the Mavi Marmara were organized and prepared in advance for resistance - a special group of activists numbering about 100 people was prepared, which had a hierarchical structure and defended the ship in an organized manner; exercises were conducted on the ship during the voyage. Each member of this group had at his disposal a steel rod, a knife or a chain, was equipped with a gas mask or respirator, some had body armor and night vision devices[62].
  
  But the people on the site were tearing their bellies in the same way for the unfortunate Turks and the even more unfortunate Pales.
  Well, how? Turks are brothers forever?
  1. DOMINO100
    
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    24 November 2015 22: 50
    
    But I began to respect you, Israel, even more. Don’t give in to your enemies. This is the only way to gain authority in the world.
2. a housewife
  
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  25 November 2015 03: 55
  
  And most of all we don’t trust England and the staffers. In general, we Russians are gullible, yes! The most distrustful are thieves and liars. For everyone judges for himself. But we do not tolerate deception. If they used to say that they woke up the Russian bear by poking it with a stick, now they shot at it! Doesn’t this scare you all? And atalef decided to gloat! Oh well! I'll wait. I'll remind you somehow. I'll see the reaction.
Stoler

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24 November 2015 22: 35

Is anyone else interested in vacationing in Turkey?
Prutkov

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24 November 2015 22: 40

There is an Israeli solution to the problem - from somewhere out of the sky something fell on our heads. No one knows.
Tequilla

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24 November 2015 22: 44

May our soldiers rest in peace!!

I wanted to write something else, but for now everything inside is seething with terrible anger and only swearing... There are many questions: why do they fly, well, at least not in pairs, but alone, there is no electronic warfare on the planes, the search operation is over in my opinion failure... Damn, how can this be, huh???...
pvv113

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24 November 2015 22: 44

A statement by the Chief of the Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces has been published online
24.11.2015, 21: 05
Speech by the Chief of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant General Sergei Rudsky, before representatives of the media on November 24, 2015.

Original news RT in Russian:
https://russian.rt.com/article/132406?utm_campaign=transit&utm_source=mirtesen&u
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sounddoc

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24 November 2015 22: 49

Erdogan's youth... fucking youth...
Lexeus

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24 November 2015 22: 55

What about us without the Turkish Stream? Where will our citizens warm their ass? Let's wake up and continue to smile at these monkeys.....(((
VeteranS

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24 November 2015 23: 13

As the Russian Defense Ministry has just reported, the flagship cruiser "Moscow" will be equipped with air defense systems similar to the S-300, which will shoot down all air targets of other countries if they arrive without the permission of Syria and our Aerospace Forces throughout Syria.. .And it will definitely happen!
Buzzard

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24 November 2015 23: 17

An unfriendly act, yes... If this “act” is swallowed, which will be done, then the next plane will be shot down, and more than one. Because no statements, even the harshest ones, can replace concrete response actions. And here is the “act”. Hmm... they didn’t talk to the USSR like that.
RUS69

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24 November 2015 23: 18

A dangerous profession, what can you say, no one is safe in peacetime, and even more so on combat missions.
The Turks showed themselves in all their glory, the pilot of the SU 24 simply did not expect that fire would be opened, and he knew 100% that he was being targeted, but this, unfortunately, is normal practice when you are near the border.
Moreover, it seems to be on the border of a friendly state.
If the guys really died, their memory will be eternal and our sincere condolences to their families.
If you ask the question whether it is worth aggravating the situation because of the lives of 2 pilots and a marine, then purely my opinion is WORTH it because today there is an airplane and tomorrow they will launch a missile at our cities and say that we have violated the agreement on the Turkish Stream.
My opinion is that you shouldn’t be the first to attack, but as soon as any dubious action (intentional or not without a discharger) is immediately knocked to hell and then figure out whether he wanted to attack or not. If an attack is from the ground, immediately launch the calibers there. And systematically level this along the border.
71rus

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24 November 2015 23: 22

In response to the terrorist attack on the KogalimAvia flight, the president said: I perceive this as an attack on Russia, the question is, how then should we perceive a demonstrative attack on the Su-24 bomber?
pvv113

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24 November 2015 23: 25

After the Turks were condemned at the UN, they began to fuss and try to justify themselves, which literally resembles the inarticulate delirium of an inadequate subject
TURKS: WE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS A RUSSIAN PLANE - WE WERE JUST CONFUSED
Türkiye, after the UN condemnation, quite sharply changed its tone, justifications appeared in the press and on Turkish television. They all sound the same - we didn’t know it was a Russian plane, we thought it was a Syrian one, and the Syrians once shot down a Turkish plane.
The expert added that the Su-24 is also in service with the Syrian Air Force, so this is where the confusion lies. However, Togrul Ismail explained that the plane was not shot down because it was confused with a Syrian one: “If the plane is not recognizable and does not respond to demands to leave the territory, then the Turks will shoot it down in any case. Our military still relies on the fact that the Russian pilot will not allow this.”

http://super-nep.ru/blog/43098924896/Turki:-Myi-ne-znali,-chto-eto-rossiyskiy-sa

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And the Kurds promised to avenge our pilots
A group of Kurds raising funds for Christian refugees in Kurdistan wrote on their social network page that the Kurds want to avenge the murder of Russian Su-24 pilots in the skies over Syria

http://aktteva.ru/blog/43592352509/Kurdyi-obeschayut-otomstit-za-ubityih-rossiys

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Papapg

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24 November 2015 23: 28

Why are we always late? where is our evidence about the plane's route? It’s not clear whether he flew or didn’t fly into the Turkish region? Enemy sources are blowing with all their might.
go

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24 November 2015 23: 28

Until the thunder strikes... just like with Kogalym-avia: IT WAS NECESSARY to prepare for such incidents in ADVANCE. Even if you didn’t expect this from Turkey, this is a war and where is the guarantee that the tour. the pilot will simply jam and he will not start shooting, therefore:
-Where were the SU-35 (or whatever?) covers praised in all the media: they should have been there!
-Where was the cruiser Moscow, which is allegedly covering something with its S300?
-we flew on two Mi-8s to look for pilots over the mountains, which were full of bearded people. Neither the Mi-8 nor I saw the 24s even have exhaust coolers, cat. they installed it in Afghanistan...it’s good that both of them weren’t shot down in flight..

Before this I watched the media and reports from the headquarters - I thought so - dizziness from success, we’ve finished the game... carelessness as always.
Ivan_Anatolich

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24 November 2015 23: 33

Some kind of gathering and d and about in the comments. WO, what's wrong with you? Where have all the good people gone?
TsUS-Air Force

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24 November 2015 23: 38

bastards!!! One thing would be good if it weren’t for Putin’s endurance of the third world war. But something needs to be done, it needs to be like in a union - we are not there, but we are bringing down everyone and everything there!!! Organize a hunt for Turkish fighters to lure, provoke and destroy!!!
Knight Rider

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24 November 2015 23: 42

The President of Turkey after the incident with the downing of Turkish Air Force planes in Syrian airspace in June 2012:
Ze Kot

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24 November 2015 23: 47

Why, when they found out where the pilots were landing, did they not survey the surrounding area from attack aircraft/helicopters? Maybe the pilots would have been saved and the rescue group would have had no losses.

And another thought flashed: what if this was a planned action by the Russian special services?

Watch: Everyone knows that Türkiye supplies the militants, trains them, and provides them with passage. But no one can do anything. Here, purely by chance, a Russian plane is substituted for the stupid heads of the Turkish military. He gets shot down. After this, Putin declares Turkey an accomplice of terrorists, some countries begin to “twist their fingers at their temples” in relation to Turkey. In order for Turkey to remain, if not “white and fluffy,” but at least “gray and not shabby” after all this, it will have to stop or greatly reduce its support for the militants. And who benefits from this??? Putin and Syria. Moreover, they will stir up a no-fly zone. And no one will say anything. Well, as for the dead pilots and rescuers... Well, maybe it turned out a little wrong...
akvanavt98

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24 November 2015 23: 49

I very much agree with Alexander Grigorievich. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKRY1lv1rTA
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nov_tech.vrn

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25 November 2015 00: 08

I’m outraged, it’s obvious that the attack on the Russian bomber was a pre-planned action, but it’s gnawing at me, here’s the question: at first, it seemed like the bombers were going on a mission with fighter cover, but here in the border area there’s one...
Bjorn

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25 November 2015 00: 19

I’m watching Solovyov now and I’m freaking out...
Damn, the plane was shot down, the pilot was brutally killed, the identity of the second is still unknown, and they are discussing what economic levers to use.
Don’t you understand that this is a declaration of War???
The answer should be such that neither Türkiye nor NATO are afraid...
THE WHOLE WORLD NEEDS TO SHAKE!!!
Peresvet_613

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25 November 2015 00: 26

The Turks quickly and harmoniously held a rally at the Russian embassy

Turkish activists of one of the political movements in Ankara demonstrated amazing efficiency and coordination.

Just three hours after the attack on the Russian bomber, several dozen demonstrators materialized outside the Russian embassy in the Turkish capital.

And everyone, as if by choice - in identical vests, with rehearsed chants, printed banners: “Brutal Russia, get out of Syria!”, “Hey, Putin! Get out of Syria!”, “The Syrian people are not alone!”

It is difficult to get rid of the feeling that this action against the Russian “bloody military” was prepared in advance. And it was the next link in the chain of Turkish provocations, which began with the accusation of the Aerospace Forces of bombing peaceful settlements of Syrian Turkmens. For whom official Ankara’s heart ache so much in words.

In fact, a living oil pipeline flows through the “Turkmen regions”, through which dumped smuggled fuel flows from the territories of the “Islamic State” (an organization banned in Russia - Ed.) to Turkey. More precisely, it went on until Russian aviation “fit into” this business scheme.

A lot of annoying and inconvenient questions arise. Why, for example, were the ubiquitous Turkish journalists, who managed to professionally film the crash of the Su-24 and the ejection of the pilots from several points, unable to record the “crimes” against the unfortunate Turkmens? Suspicious luck, isn't it?
Saints

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25 November 2015 00: 27

There is an excellent option without declaring war.
beer-youk

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25 November 2015 01: 09

Türkiye provoked a war throughout Europe against Russia in the mid-19th century (Crimean War). Now I'm back to my old ways. Isn't it time to show these chumps their place - near the bucket?!
region 23

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25 November 2015 01: 20

The true face of Turkey
AdekvatNICK

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25 November 2015 01: 27

I read a lot of comments here and on VO....actually my opinion is not interesting to anyone.

Shoigu is guilty of shooting down the plane. Turkey has repeatedly stated that there is no need to fly on their border. They should have, if not listened, at least understood that the Ottomans are completely fucked and they are in NATO.

saving fuel and self-confidence led to the fact that our bomber, without cover, flies near the border of the inadequate and receives a missile. Where were the support fighters? but they weren’t there.

They flew to rescue and also shot down the helicopter.

Actually, it’s clear what Turkey is running there. Trade in fuel with ISIS at dumping prices... in parallel, there is a collapse of the state for which Turkey has considerable appetites in the form of border territories and resources. The question now is what can we oppose. Let’s think about it. Military aggression disappears immediately. (that is, no matter what answer we make, it will not give satisfaction; not a single Turk will be killed)

The first thing that comes to mind, I think for many. Close tourism...hmm, okay. And then? and then...contracts...military? The Turks don’t care, NATO will deliver whatever they don’t want. Unless it’s the construction of power units. And... that’s all. We can’t do anything else. And soon, I assure you, NATO ships will enter the Black Sea and stand off the coast of Turkey, etc. .d. That is, we will close civil aviation flights, cut off tourism, and salt a couple of contracts. There will be no more gas as usual. You can forget about the gas line. And this means that there is now complete dependence on the Chinese line, which the Chinese will take advantage of. Because this line is Chinese The only way for our state to survive at this stage, because the Ukrainian pipe will be closed soon. We are playing with the empire.

We are against the whole world. There are no allies, if you name at least one then go ahead. We are alone. And I don’t see any other way out at this stage. How to close the border from the inside. Burn the border area with the Turks into molecules. Place electronic warfare in that area. Strengthen the naval group .And close the sky in this zone. Strengthen the cover of strike air groups. Close civil flights to Turkey. We can’t do anything more.

Now I’ll give vent to my emotions a little.

You definitely need to kill the Turks. You need to kill them. As many as possible. These are accomplices of terrorists, these are complete creatures, the southern outpost of NATO.
1. berkut9737
  
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  25 November 2015 01: 57
  
  You definitely need to kill the Turks. You need to kill them. As many as possible. These are accomplices of terrorists, these are complete creatures, the southern outpost of NATO.
  
  Our Marines and pilots who are now in Syria will not leave it like this. The Turks will get revenge, if they haven’t already.
Novosib

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25 November 2015 01: 30

If war is declared on Turkey, there will be sufficient legal grounds to cut off the Blue Stream; through this pipeline, the Turks receive gas directly from our territory.
Rasikh

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25 November 2015 01: 35

There are so many military specialists and patriots at the computer. Were you not taught to think? If you're so smart, why aren't you president or minister? Everyone said it’s a shame that our people are like (sheep) this is not an insult to those who express a stupid opinion. There’s just no need to flog the fever. Give it time and everything will be shown to everyone. Otherwise we’ll have to fight with everyone, and then they’ll definitely devour us and not choke on us! And it’s rightly said that our people still vacation in Turkey and some live there - what are they for? No one will help them later. Why insult Yeltsin like that, he really was a good person - you just don’t know much about him, and how he was controlled and what they put in him, and he didn’t drink at all. First of all, before you say anything about someone, study their biography! Or look at yourself from the outside - maybe you yourself are worse than those people, but you are posing as a fluffy one!!!!!
1. berkut9737
  
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  25 November 2015 02: 15
  
  And he was not a drinker at all.
  
  An acquaintance of mine worked in Yeltsin’s security when he was still the first secretary of the Sverdlovsk regional committee of the CPSU. He talked a lot, a lot about Yeltsin’s love for strong drinks... So if you’re smart, it would be nice to pay attention to the sources from which you draw information.
Disant

+1

25 November 2015 02: 01

Erdogan must leave
1. berkut9737
  
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  25 November 2015 02: 20
  
  Erdogan must leave
  
  To the grave.
loki565

0

25 November 2015 02: 09

If only they had knocked out the eight
The footage shows one of the Syrian militants aiming a weapon at a helicopter that is taking part in a search and rescue operation at the crash site of a previously downed Su-24. The fired shell hits the helicopter, the Mi-8 instantly catches fire.

Earlier, the General Staff reported that in order to evacuate the Su-24 pilots, a search and rescue operation was carried out involving two Mi-8 helicopters. One of them was shot down by militants, killing a Russian marine.

Sergei Rudskoy, head of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces: “Due to the actions taken, the personnel of the search and rescue group and the helicopter crew were evacuated and are currently at the Khmeimim air base. From the territory controlled by gangs, the helicopter was destroyed by mortar fire.”
Kibalchish

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25 November 2015 02: 48

Armenia - Ararat, Kurds - Kurdistan, Russia - Bosphorus, Turkey - death
Zomanus

+1

25 November 2015 02: 58

First, pull all our people out of Turkey.
Otherwise, in response to our thoughtless
actions we will get very unpleasant things.
In the meantime, continue to hammer with triple strength
oil traffic routes to Turkey.
Shark Lover

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25 November 2015 03: 22

I hope the snouts, which in the footage screamed with delight about the downed plane, are already sucking off their patron in heaven
dchegrinec

0

25 November 2015 03: 57

Scorched earth is good! Or you can provoke these F-16s to supposedly escort our fighters and shoot them down there.
radar1967

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25 November 2015 04: 13

Europe should not forget that their refugee problems arose thanks to Turkish border guards.
Bort radist

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25 November 2015 04: 13

Betrayal, betrayal,
An unhealing burn to the soul.
Tired of crying, tired of crying,
I'm tired of crying over the dead horn.
Calling to distant lands
The trumpets are a silver trill,
And the horses rush through the stubble.
But what is your holy goal?
When a pierced overcoat
Is there smoke on your back from the shot?

You study, you study,
You learn not to trust your friends.
Painful? - Painful.-
It’s more painful to lose them afterwards.
And Brutus plunges a knife into his throat,
And under Theseus the shore is steep,
And I want to trust the enemy!
Earth in sunset and smoke -
I'm dying because
That I can’t live without this faith.
Gorodnitsky.
nikolaev

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25 November 2015 04: 13

In Turkey, during the entire Syrian Patriotic War, they made a massive profit from robbery, not even disdaining to export dishes from the unfortunate country. Jackals. Marauders.
So, if you come to Turkey on vacation, think about it while eating: are you eating from these utensils?
lablizn

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25 November 2015 04: 32

What kind of nonsense?
Syria has a state border as a sovereign state. This is undeniable.
This means we need to block all access from the outside. How? That’s why “Buratins”, “Solntsepeks”, “Iskanders” exist (why should they hang around in Kaliningrad because of the sprats?).
We need political will. Claims of "partnership" cannot be trusted
If necessary, I will pick up a machine gun, because since the World War my Motherland has not experienced such humiliation.
Sartorius

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25 November 2015 04: 46

The Turks put their statehood on the line. You can, of course, turn Incirlik into a desert (very tempting), but no matter how you look at NATO, they will yoke to their member. In this sense, it is really worth keeping watch until the Turkish Air Force itself enters Syrian territory, where it is “polite” to land them. But helping the Kurds get their own state (or broad autonomy) is quite possible, as a detonator of the collapse of Turkey. Modern Turkey will repeat the fate of the Ottoman Empire, when excessively large political ambitions ultimately destroyed the country.
BaLaLaykin

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25 November 2015 04: 48

The co-pilot of a downed Russian Su-24 aircraft was rescued by the Syrian army after a special rescue operation behind the front line.
http://rusvesna.su/news/1448413341
I haven't found any other evidence yet
baur2030

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25 November 2015 05: 43

I believe that there is no need to make such a fuss over one plane. There is no war without casualties. Russia is a nuclear power and it cannot put pressure on non-nuclear Turkey, even if Turkey has shown itself to be bad. I think everyone understands perfectly well that the United States and NATO (hereinafter referred to as buggers) planned one goal in the medium term - to overthrow Assad at any cost and build a pipeline through Raqqa to Turkey (including gaining access to the Mediterranean Sea). The US cannot help Europe with oil and gas through the ocean, the easiest way is IRAQ. What is happening now is the result of RUSSIA’s faithful and effective work in Syria. Now the buggers have taken a wait-and-see attitude and are waiting for the fall of ALEPPO. Once Aleppo falls, the road to the city of Raqqa will open, then the buggers can invade through Turkey. No one will fight in Russia; perhaps the homosexuals, out of hopelessness, will try to divide Syria into the city of Raqqa. The Syrian Arab Republic must take the city of Raqqa at any cost.

Of course, it’s a great pity for the pilots and the rescuer, but this opens up new opportunities for Russia. I now consider it important, without declaring my intentions, to strengthen the Khmeimim air defense air base. Additionally, in the depths of Syria, create an air base with enhanced air defense to control the entire airspace over Syria. Well, the most important thing is to increase bombing. I think after this buggers will become more fluffy.
Seraphimamur

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25 November 2015 05: 48

So the Turks showed which side of the barricade they were on by revealing their wolfish grin. NATO and the United States seem to distance themselves from all this, and that’s right, why bother with subhumans. A shot down plane is a test for lice, like we’ll make some noise in the Security Council, we’ll get outraged in the media, we’ll write a note of protest and that’s ALL. Russia will not want to lose investments and a place to relax for its citizens? Move for GDP. I would also like to note kindness and peacefulness in the East, with its mentality, is perceived as weakness with all that it implies. I don’t want people to wipe their feet on Russia and spit on my soul.
radar1967

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25 November 2015 06: 01

A warrior must speak the truth (or remain silent). This makes him invincible. So let's tell the truth:
Who are ISIS? These are mostly former soldiers and officers of Saddam's army. And the worst of them. The best performed their duty honestly. ISIS (IS) are those military men who gave up their weapons for dollars, those whom the Americans bought during the overthrow of Saddam. Deserters for money. Deserters-prostitutes. By the way, this is the most brutal category of warriors. The strong and honest often forgive the defeated enemy, but no one can expect mercy from traitors bought for a time and now unemployed. Years passed, and the dollars they earned ran out and they began to make money from “rolled” oil and banditry.
Who do the corrupt Saddamites sell oil to? To the neighbors. Whoever the fuel tanker reaches is sold to him. Mainly from Turkey. The price is half the price (as truckers say about “saved” diesel fuel. This is very beneficial for all small Turkish businesses. That is, for the whole country. All of Turkey. The Turks are not used to the price of gasoline doubling.
So the Russian pilots were not attacked by mistake. Russian aviation is scary not so much to ISIS as to the Turks. THIS IS THEIR FOLK CRAFT.
You probably think that our Sushki attacked ISIS combat units? ISIS are gangs. If you don't pay them, they will run away on their own. But oil smokehouses and fuel tankers cannot be hidden. Hit any tank - you can't go wrong. At the same time, the cost of each of our missiles, each shell and cartridge is not wasted. It is this cost that increases the cost of “gangster services” for transporting smuggled fuel. And it is by this amount that the standard of living of Turkish residents falls.
So the guys did not die in vain. Russian Su-34s are destroying the Turkish economy in the most savage way!!!
Putin has extensive experience in fighting oil pumps. We have already gone through this in Chechnya.
By the way; The word "Türkiye" is written with a small letter!
PM78

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25 November 2015 06: 57

Quote: Vladimirets
In general, even the states reported that they had nothing to do with the actions of the Turkish Air Force.

Obama said that the Turks have the right to defend their borders... There are no words.
linen

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25 November 2015 07: 58

Stop warning! So tell this attache: WE WILL KILL YOU IF YOU VIOLATE THE SYRIAN BORDER FOR EVEN HALF A SECOND!
prostofily

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25 November 2015 08: 23

This is where the Turks set themselves up. To expose yourself to Russia like this is madness. Now there is no need to rush. Let them be a little afraid, they’ll think about it. If they don’t crawl on their own, well, there are a lot of options.
BIA29-80

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25 November 2015 10: 00

Quote: andj61
Quote: Persistent
I never rested in Turkey ... THEREFORE, I can safely say I did not feed this insignificant bunch of idiots and bastards from my wallet .....

I was once in 2009. In order to warm the belly - it’s completely nothing. But it bothers me on the third day, but there's really nothing to see there. It is simply impossible to compare with Crete, Cyprus and Spain! And this year he was in the Krasnodar Territory, in Olginka. I went there by car with my family - and did not regret it at all. We traveled all over the coast, and even drove back to historical places on the way back - I really liked it. Next year we plan to go to the Crimea: there were acquaintances, very advised. There really is something to see.
But the Turks must be punished - it is imperative to support the Kurds, deploy an air defense system (though Syria has not been flown for a long time), start seriously ironing those who were involved in the deaths of our people, and support Armenia at the highest level in the effort to recognize the Armenian Genocide early 20th century. Come up with something else ...
And to think how to respond to the new dirty tricks of the Turks - since they are so insolent, they can close the straits for us ...

All tourists..stay home..in Russia..and the Turks will die of hunger
Million

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25 November 2015 10: 02

There are a lot of words being said now, but no deeds are yet in sight. I hope that it will not limit itself to political statements alone
dr. sem

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25 November 2015 11: 25

“The Turkish military attache has been summoned to the RF Ministry of Defense,” a ra..k..o..m has been appointed, begging for mercy... That would not be bad.
banlist

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25 November 2015 11: 36

Purely emotionally, I want our strategists with a nuclear bomb to patrol in the sky near the Turkish border and dryly answer that “Kuzka’s mother” is being taken, but according to a cold mind, I don’t want to be drawn into the war at all to the satisfaction of the mattress makers, we will only help them .
ioann1

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25 November 2015 12: 22

Thus, Türkiye, having shot down a Russian plane, entered the war against Russia on the side of the Islamic State. This means that Turkey fits into the category of terrorist states, furthermore, by shielding and supporting terrorists on its territory. And therefore, it is necessary to deal with the Turks the same way as with other terrorists.
But all these events indicate that the end of times is approaching. But only Russia - Holy Rus' will worthily enter new times.
Old warrior

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25 November 2015 12: 31

There is such a tricky thing - it's called electronic warfare. Let the Turks themselves fall from heaven. By the way, was there a Protest Action at the Turkish Embassy in Moscow?
Mic1969

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25 November 2015 13: 11

I think that a no-fly zone should be declared over the entire territory of Syria. Do not allow anyone there except those who have received permission from the Syrian government (at the moment only the Russian Federation). Why shoot down everyone, justify it by violating the Syrian border. They want to bomb ISIS, let’s first come to an agreement with Assad.
P.S. I didn’t read all the comments, so I may have plagiarized someone, sorry.
user3970

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25 November 2015 15: 31

There was information that the “darkest” arrived in Yekaterinburg for the opening of the YOBN palace. Also present at the opening was the widow of YOBN, Comrade Chubais and other officials. The construction of the palace of this high statesman cost Russian taxpayers 7 billion rubles. Also, let's not forget that by decree of the President of the GDP, the Presidential Library and the University were named after YOBN. 2) First Deputy Defense Minister Shoigu was relieved of his post. 1) according to unconfirmed data, the so-called “Perimeter” project of the Ministry of Defense turned out to be a big fake, that is, purely a signboard, behind which there is emptiness. The money is spent, but the result is zilch. The Minister of Defense and President of AFK Sistema Yevtushenko, who was awarded the contract for the development and implementation of Perimer without competition, is suspected of theft. Information about this briefly appeared on the Internet and immediately from news feeds.
1. Mic1969
  
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  25 November 2015 16: 53
  
  As far as I remember, the “Perimeter” system is still a Soviet development. 2) What does Sistema have to do with work in the nuclear missile sector?
  1. user3970
    
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    27 November 2015 09: 17
    
    They may have developed it in Soviet times. But they tried to put him on duty now. GDP is furious. But they don’t change horses midstream. But if the political situation changes, Shoigu’s fate is sealed.
Old Siberian

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25 November 2015 16: 42

This is not the first time the Basurmans have started, and now they are trying to start a war against Russia.
vk77

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25 November 2015 16: 51

Damn, so many expert opinions. True, mostly stupid... But I’m wondering what will happen next.
vglazunov

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25 November 2015 20: 16

Shot down one Russian plane - destroy a squadron of Turkish ones, such a worthy answer from Comrade Stalin :)
alexandrastafiev

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25 November 2015 21: 03

Sergei Shoigu: The S-400 air defense system will be deployed to the Khmeimim airbase in Syria youtube.com/watch?v=pmOkeKCbkUE
alexandrastafiev

0

25 November 2015 21: 05

Our pilots were fired from the ground not by the Syrian opposition, but by Turkish neo-fascists pikabu.ru/story/nayti_i_unichtozhit_3804211
Aland

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26 November 2015 18: 44

Stab in the back betrayal everything is true, but it was the Warrior who died
honor and praise to him, as you know, they kill in war
It’s your own fault, you can’t believe or trust anyone,
to inflict maximum harm on the enemy, all methods are good,
and Türkiye is not our friend, that’s when civilian planes are blown up
Russian or something else, it doesn’t matter
this is where you want to gnaw throats with your teeth
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Alarm clock

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27 November 2015 12: 30

One cruise missile still had to accidentally fall on the F-16’s departure airfield. After some time, sufficient to bring all Russian armed forces to combat readiness. This cannot be left unpunished, there will be more... It is quite obvious that this is a test of the strength of our president’s balls, developed jointly with everyone who gave birth and nurtured ISIS. These are the USA, Türkiye, Qatar, Saudi Arabia. I don’t understand why Turkey was called a “friendly country”, or they forgot the history, including the close one, how Chechen militants recovered their health in Turkey, were financed from there, and so on. Erdogan has it written on his face that he is the purest representative of our enemies, eternal and insidious.
yurgis68

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27 November 2015 15: 24

Quote: Oprychnik
Yes. A trifle. 7 billion for this business.

It would be better if they spent on the defense industry, on our citizens; I don’t remember that under him the people lived well and the state developed.

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