The Turkish military attache was summoned to the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation, and the deputy speaker of the Italian Senate accused Turkey of joining the war on the side of ISIS

Press Service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation spreads the message that the Turkish military attaches were summoned to the main defense department of the country in connection with the strike by the Turkish air force on a Russian plane that took part in counter-terrorism measures in Syria. From the message of the press service of the Russian Ministry of Defense:

Today at 9:30 am, a Russian aircraft carrying out combat missions to combat terrorism was shot down by a Turkish Air Force aircraft. The Russian plane did not cross the Turkish border and operated exclusively on facilities in Syria. The fighting of the Russian aviation were fought against illegal terrorist groups, which include a large number of militants from the North Caucasus of Russia.

Attempts by specialists from the Russian Defense Ministry to organize interaction with the Turkish side through emergency communications were unsuccessful.

What follows is a very mild formulation for the status of the defense department:

We consider the actions of the Turkish Air Force as unfriendly act.

It is extremely difficult to come up with a softer wording in this situation ...

The Ministry of Defense continues:

Currently, the Russian Ministry of Defense is developing a set of measures to respond to such incidents.
Fighting against terrorists in Syria will continue.

Today, striking a Russian aircraft is one of the main topics of discussion in different countries. So, in Italy, Deputy Chairman of the Senate Roberto Calderoli, commenting on what happened, called Turkey "the Trojan horse of radical Islamists, which they use to shoot at the West." According to Roberto Calderali, Turkey officially entered the war on the side of ISIS today.

Comments

[Kimblee]

Unfriendly act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less "unfriendly facts" began!

[Baikonur]

Unfriendly Act?!?!?!

The same thing, that you are being shot in the forehead, but you say - this is some kind of unfriendly act! Turn around and leave with a bullet in your head, like - "I'll think about it! How to proceed? I don't know!"
In nature, there’s nothing left to think!

Attempts by specialists from the Russian Defense Ministry to organize interaction with the Turkish side through emergency communications were unsuccessful.

Here are you bastards! They hit me in the back and in the bushes with a dastardly knife!

[Sterlya]

Turks, creatures, because of cheap oil? I think it's not just oil. Yes, and the mattresses rather tried, stop

[sever.56]

http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/239/icqc576.png

Evgeny Satanovsky today at Soloviev's ...
I would add: - expand the Bosphorus
so that it becomes the Bosphorus ... !!!

[Baikonur]

Unfriendly act at 9:30! seo 19:42! And where is the gap in diplomatic relations? Foreign Ministry notes? Convocation of the UN Security Council !?

[Koshak]

Quote: Baikonur

Unfriendly act at 9:30! seo 19:42! And where is the gap in diplomatic relations? Foreign Ministry notes? Convocation of the UN Security Council !?

And where is the ragged airfield from which that F-16 took off?

[PQ-18]

And where is the ragged airfield from which that F-16 took off?

Why SO rude and primitive?
you can calmly and quietly hunt for Turkish planes approaching the Syrian border "from the ground" ... and their debris will be GUARANTEED to fall on Syrian territory!
(however, in the beginning, you need to clean up the territory adjacent to the border)

[Tatyana]

From the text of the article

Turkey officially entered the war on the side of ISIS today.

This was to be expected personally from Erdogan himself - a political adventurer and businessman.
Erdogan has his own oil raider business (we have already written about this) - he, in fact, raids (robs) for himself personally in his own pocket, and for Turkey too, oil in Syria with the help of ISIS paramilitary units. Russia with its Turkish stream could not compensate Erdogan for his raider super-profits from his commercial oil business. Therefore, the negotiations between Turkey and the Russian Federation ended unsuccessfully. Moreover, the fight of Syria and Russia against ISIS is a fight against the raider business of Erdogan himself. (Essentially, Erdogan is a high-ranking raider bandit.)The classics also said that there is no such crime that the capitalist will not commit for the sake of his superprofits. Therefore, Erdogan, having taken a bite of the bit, openly got involved with Russia in a war for his business, using the Turkish Armed Forces for personal purposes. And the Americans will look at all this according to the principle "My house is on the edge - I don't know anything!" and rub your hands with pleasure. Their war between Turkey and Russia is fine. Erdogan will lose his everything.
Oil prices in the world market will rise. And Europe, the Italians as well, will pay for it and for the new refugees.

[krot]

Well, the predicted third world war begins !? Or will it only cost the destruction of Turkey?

[vsoltan]

krot

Yes, it really began, on September 30th ... You overslept ...

[vsoltan]

Stupid ... members of the forum, do not you understand? Threw some minuses ... the dog is with them, and meanwhile, the third world war is already underway ...

[Charik]

Armageddon is a war that will soon begin. Prophecies of Elder Paisius the Avyatogorets, bubble theme

[Mahmut]

Armageddon is a war that will soon begin. The prophecies of Elder Paisius the Holy Mountain,

Erdogandon is a war that has already begun. Strelkov's prophecies.

[Allitet]

Erdogan is a bastard, he was so fucked up, but we believed him!

[Valiich]

I think Russia is giving everything right! Competently, clearly, without unnecessary emotion. It will not come to military action. And Erdogan, as you rightly noted, "bit the bit" he really is a "horse" only not a Trojan horse, but a pedal one. With such a policy that he is pursuing, he was really preparing or is preparing a strike against the west with his help. Putin said at the UN Assembly "... they are also not fools and it is not known who is using whom", Erdogan is used by the US and NATO and ISIS, such a multi-layered reusable pedagogue in the end. The United States is happy with everything that is bad for Russia. Turks are like cannon fodder for them, even now with a smell.

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: PQ-18

you can calmly and quietly hunt for Turkish aircraft

it is necessary to fight the Turks totally, to put pressure both economically and with the support of the Kurds, to meet their leaders in Moscow as representatives of the liberation movement, in short, everything is the same as they did against Russia, hiding the "Czechs".

[Orionvit]

It's time to unfold the banners of Suvorov and General Skobelev. The Turks seem to have completely forgotten that they were always shoveling away from Russia. We have completely lost our fear. Beasts.

[goose]

Quote: Orionvit

The Turks seem to have completely forgotten that they were always shoveling away from Russia. We have completely lost our fear. Beasts.

they have not forgotten, it is just that since those times the number of Turks has increased by 3 times, and the number of Russians has decreased.

[Down House]

Quote: goose

it is just that since those times the number of Turks has increased by 3 times, and the number of Russians has decreased.

Have you gathered hand-to-hand with them, or will we still take into account the firepower of modern armies?

[iliitchitch]

Quote: PQ-18

Why SO rude and primitive?
you can calmly and quietly hunt for Turkish planes approaching the Syrian border "from the ground" ... and their debris will be GUARANTEED to fall on Syrian territory!
(however, in the beginning, you need to clean up the territory adjacent to the border)

I agree with you. Immediate sharp movements are expected of us. Before throwing axes, pull the tourists out of there, only then recall the ambassador, curtail ANY cooperation, and meanwhile hammer the oil refineries and caravans of the furry snouts. These tchurki themselves specifically put a bullet in the liver, the aircraft fleet of any Fifteenths will be halved to them, but not tomorrow in the morning. And what will happen to their economy ... There will be another mongrel, which no one can see at close range.

[Good me]

Quote: PQ-18

Why SO rude and primitive?

Indeed, let's answer intelligently and liberally to the plane shot down OVER THE SYRIAN TERRITORY, ALREADY CONFIRMED DEATH of one of the pilots, the unclear fate of the second, hit by fire from the ground, and subsequently destroyed by the mortar fire of terrorists, during an unsuccessful attempt to conduct our search and rescue helicopter THE DEATH of our Marine ...

Isn't it a BLACK DAY today for our operation in Syria, for which someone must answer in full?

And including from our side, those who planned and carried out a search and rescue operation, and sent no less armored Mi-24, and albeit phenomenally tenacious, but pierced through from small arms Mi-8 into the active combat zone ...

[_Vladislav_]

Once again I am convinced - Shary fumbles.

[Drmadfisher]

to all the armies of the armies "VOLNO, DISSOLVE", without you they will figure it out

[Spectator]

Quote: PQ-18

and their debris will be GUARANTEED to fall on Syrian territory!
(however, in the beginning, you need to clean up the territory adjacent to the border)

At the same time, move the border towards Ankara so that all planes taking off immediately fall into the Syrian airspace and are subject to destruction))

[ancient]

Quote: Koshak

And where is the ragged airfield from which that F-16 took off?

And there are still amerovsky Needles are now based .. something else needs to be ... like Satanovsky suggests.
But our then ... "not a friendly act" ... "MEASURES ARE DEVELOPED now" ..... alo garage ... don't get used to the fact that this is no longer AVIADARTS and "show-off at the SHOW" ????

[kadochnikov]

What are you talking about? A business center named after Yeltsin opens in Yekaterinburg, and the president, together with the prime minister and the first president's daughter, are going to open it. With all due respect to all of them, but in a situation that is essentially an act of military aggression, this is an absolutely irrelevant event worthy of the attention of the country's top leadership.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: kadochnikov

With all due respect to all of them, but in a situation that is essentially an act of military aggression, this is an absolutely irrelevant event worthy of the attention of the country's top leadership.

I would say that this is an event worthy of attention only to the families of the Alcoholic of All Russia, Chubais and a dozen of unbroken Chubais. Well, also "Yahu Moskvy" - information support.

[Oprychnik]

Yes. A trifle. 7 billion for this business.

[Lera Tagan]

Why is this subhuman not yet splashed with paint !!!

[regsSSSR]

kadochnikov
What are you talking about? A business center named after Yeltsin opens in Yekaterinburg and

as Boris Rozhin (Colonel Cassad) said commenting on this event
- This is how a museum looks like, which I will never go to myself and will not lead my loved ones. Unless only if it burns out.

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2488750.html#comments

you can’t say better!

[Roman13]

The sculptors forgot to place a couple of bottles of vodka near the monument.

[anderles66]

Yes, and open a wine and vodka shop there :) And the sculpture should be this: how he conducted a German orchestra.

[autotechnik]

He still lacks a "bubble" in his hands)))

[Soviet Union]

Quote: kadochnikov

Yeltsin business center

you can fucking ... business center named after Benny drunk ... no words ...

[vsoltan]

Yes, just another rudeness of the authorities ..

[Constructor1]

They survived, monuments to traitors to the state are being erected and centers are being opened ..
No one has done as much harm to Russia as the humpback and Yeltsin. And he looked at the news and immediately understood everything - who built it? showed an interview with a representative of an American developer company !!! Well, then everything became clear, as much was stolen and taken out during the struggle, for a "small" part of what was stolen, they built it all

[Oleg56.ru]

What is the life of two pilots compared to such an "important" fucking event.

[Sterlya]

Quote: Oleg56.ru

What is the life of two pilots compared to such an "important" fucking event.

I thought they would soon dug out to drive an aspen stake into the coffin ...

[Roman13]

How can you call something by the name of this old alcoholic, under whom Russia was simply a laughing stock. My name E.B.N will always be associated only with the 90s, years of devastation, the decline of the army and the decline of the morale of our nation.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Baikonur

Unfriendly act at 9:30! seo 19:42! And where is the gap in diplomatic relations? Foreign Ministry notes? Convocation of the UN Security Council !?

Do not rush to unleash an official war when you can do just as much harm without declaring war. The Turks have something to lose, which means there is a weak point and not one. Military aid to Kurdish rebels, for example, is not a declaration of war. The Americans are constantly acting against Russia.

[Mama_Cholli]

Quote: Алексей_К

Quote: Baikonur

Unfriendly act at 9:30! seo 19:42! And where is the gap in diplomatic relations? Foreign Ministry notes? Convocation of the UN Security Council !?

Do not rush to unleash an official war when you can do just as much harm without declaring war. The Turks have something to lose, which means there is a weak point and not one. Military aid to Kurdish rebels, for example, is not a declaration of war. The Americans are constantly acting against Russia.

Lesha, stop calming ... especially without knowing the topic!

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Mama_Cholli

Lesha, stop calming ... especially without knowing the topic!

I am not reassuring anyone. It's just that Russia will resolve all these issues diplomatically and from the rostrum of the UN. But this is a long story. No one in Russia will declare war on Turkey. But to harm Turkey and show that it will lose more of its planes, that it will not see either Russian or Azerbaijani gas. That electronic warfare systems will completely make their air defense systems blind. Tourism has already begun to wither, who wants to be in a Turkish concentration camp. They also cannot see Syrian oil or oil from other countries via oil pipelines. Russia will start helping the Kurds even more. There are many non-diplomatic methods of punishing Turkey. Armenia, for example, dreams of revenge on the Turks, etc.
And the second thing. What does "even more so without knowing the topic" mean? Are you on the Syrian front or do you work in the Russian Foreign Ministry? Or maybe you are our scout, who is always in the subject?

[Platonich]

Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! Excellent comment +++++

[ordinary]

Alexey ..respect for the correct and balanced position

[Mama_Cholli]

Alexey, in six months we will look at the gas pipeline, then we will draw conclusions. So far, all that you have said is your personal subjective opinion. Although I really want you to be right.

And whoever dreams of what, for example, revenge, is their own business. In any case, dreaming is not harmful, but there is little sense in it.

For example, I think that all yesterday's statements by our Defense Ministry are empty concussions. For example: An attack of any plane (including a Turkish one) that has flown across the Syrian border will automatically be regarded as an attack on the NATO bloc, with all the consequences ... In order to throw such words, you must first obtain (official) consent from the Syrian authorities on the closure of state borders for the flight of foreign aircraft included in the coalition (except, respectively, Russian). Only in this case would we have the opportunity to attack Turkish aircraft over Syrian territory. Previously, it was necessary to itch.
But the Turks shot down our plane even over the territory of another country, so what? But there was nothing and will never be.
Sponsorship of the Kurds by Russia will be regarded throughout the world as sponsorship of terrorists, with all the ensuing consequences. You must understand the policy of double standards in the modern world.
What other suggestions will you have on the case?

[Down House]

Quote: Mama_Cholli

Sponsorship of the Kurds by Russia will be regarded throughout the world as sponsorship of terrorists, with all the ensuing consequences. You must understand the policy of double standards in the modern world.

We understand!
And the only way to fight this "policy" is to simply ignore these very "second standards"!

[Serhio]

Well, why? As for the support of the Kurds, Aleksey is absolutely correct. Thus, it is possible to punish Turkey very painfully. Up to the deprivation of part of the territory. Plus, it would be nice to seek recognition of the Armenian Genocide through the UN. With material compensation. Following the example of the German genocide of Jews.

[SOKOL777]

Quote: Алексей_К

Military aid to Kurdish rebels

You are thinking in the right direction.
Only ours need to do everything in silence, do not advertise in the media, everyone will understand everything anyway.
It would be nice if Assad would agree with the Kurds on the creation of autonomy in Syria (an official statement is needed).
There, the Turkish Kurds will catch up ...

TURKEY HAS SIGNED A JUDGMENT TO ITSELF! This is the case when easy money from oil muddied the mind.

It's pretty hard for us now.
But the "Turkish stream" must be abandoned. The Turks will create more transit problems than Ukraine.

Regarding the aircraft, countermeasures must be taken, and no indulgences to anyone.

We all need to learn the main thing.
The war in the Middle East is flaring up, and we are participants in it.

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

Turkey should not be on the map ....

[JAJAJA]

It will be coming soon!
in your lifetime!

[andrew42]

The main thing is in silence.

[avdkrd]

Quote: Алексей_К

Do not rush to unleash an official war when you can do just as much harm without declaring war. The Turks have something to lose, which means there is a weak point and not one. Military aid to Kurdish rebels, for example, is not a declaration of war. The Americans are constantly acting against Russia.

War is an inconvenient and expensive thing, but there are times when war is better ... The organizers of the provocation are counting on a relatively mild reaction. The purpose of the provocation is to show the military failure of Russia. The expectation is that Russia will wrinkle and whine at the UN Security Council.
It is unlikely that the Turks are the brain center of this provocation - in the event of even purely economic retaliatory actions, Turkey will return to the 80s of the twentieth century. Our dependence on Turkey is one-sided. China will gladly fill the niche for consumer goods, cheap ceramic tiles and furniture, for fruits and vegetables, and so there is a queue. Turkish companies are guaranteed to be kicked out of the Russian market, a hunt will be announced for Turkish capital in the construction sector (for which there is always). With the shutdown of the Blue Stream, Turkey will lose its competitiveness in all energy-intensive industries - the production of porcelain stoneware, plywood, construction fittings, sanitary ware. The situation for Russia is really difficult, the idea of ​​the organizers almost succeeded, with a few exceptions - no one knows what Putin will do after the Russians are evacuated. I would bet that one way or another there will be a military response, because in this case it will be possible to maintain economic ties.

[Down House]

Quote: avdkrd

The organizers of the provocation are counting on a relatively mild reaction.

Not a fact.

Quote: avdkrd

The purpose of the provocation is to show the military failure of Russia.

Consistency has already been shown by striking strikes beyond the "distant lands".

[anderles66]

I agree with you one hundred percent and even more. Firstly, you should not behave like a bazaar aunt, that is, squeal to the whole bazaar. I think that the greatest respect and the result will cause a cold-blooded, consistent movement until the complete actual surrender of the enemy. Secondly, as it seems to me, it should be borne in mind that in the event of an official declaration of war, about 10 thousand of our citizens become hostages without the possibility of their evacuation, and the straits into the Mediterranean Sea are closed in accordance with an agreement one and a half years ago. I agree that Turkey has a lot of pain points and weaknesses. Some of them are purely geographically along the entire border (and inside) - Armenians, Kurds, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Cyprus. Oil traffic is the most important factor. Well, etc.

[44 World]

It's time for the Kadyrovites to leave for the place, they know their business !!!

[SOKOL777]

Quote: 44World

it's time for the Kadyrovites

I would take care of our guys.
My intuition tells me that soon they will be very much needed in our Caucasus.
However, I could be wrong ...

[1976AG]

But the Turks should be the first to answer.

[Major Yurik]

For a long time and colorfully painted "partners" about the red lines, for which it is impossible to go, but Bish Bashibuzuk Erdogan turned out to be color blind, well, he does not see the red line and generally does not see the edges. The way out, unfortunately, is only one surgical operation on the eye, preferably with a fatal outcome! The coverage area of ​​the borders with chunks of dense electronic warfare, plus, as the Yankees do, covered the plane with sonar detection - get a missile into the bochin! Good luck to our flyers, hold on, brother, LET'S LIVE !!!!!

[Yarik]

Firstly, a symmetrical-asymmetric response. Shoot down Turkish Air Force planes approaching the range of destruction of air defense systems And by the complexes themselves, the whole of Syria along the borders to stick That’s where it’s going to be. Imagine yourself as the Ottoman Empire of the 16th century? Nihua never did that.

[PQ-18]

I would add: - expand the Bosphorus
so that it becomes the Bosphorus ... !!!

Why in vain stir up the Mediterranean water?
can help:
1. Cypriots return North
2. Syria to return the northern territories occupied by the Turks
3. Kurds give autonomy ...
4. Greeks - several islands
5. to the Armenians -ARARAT! (someone ALREADY suggested before me)

[Karayakupovo]

I really love Pikul (and even more our Supreme Commander-in-Chief) and agree with you in everything!

[_Vladislav_]

From the reaction of the international community, especially the NATO countries - to the downed Russian plane, one can see only one thing - GLOBALLY FURNED.

And for good reason. Everything is still ahead.

[krot]

Quote: _Vladislav_

From the reaction of the international community, especially the NATO countries - to the downed Russian plane, one can see only one thing - GLOBALLY FURNED.

It's too early to talk about it yet! They have a meeting ahead of them .. We'll see further! But in general, they are afraid ..

[SOKOL777]

Quote: _Vladislav_

From the reaction of the international community, especially NATO countries

NATO has already replied to Turkey, they say figure it out yourself, we are not in business ...
This is a very important moment, they remember it back in Europe in 1945.

Neither NATO nor the United States will risk a military confrontation with Russia.
There are still common minds who understand that Russia has a fatal pill prepared for such "partners".

But the war in the Middle East is just beginning.
Turkey is not a reliable partner and never has been.

And we need to draw the right conclusions:
- it is impossible to fly without fighter escort;
-Kill everyone who tries to attack (make a statement about this all over the world);
-the border between Syria and Turkey must be closed;
-the cruiser "Moskva" must approach the territorial borders of Turkey and be ready;
- urgently means of electronic warfare to those parts (where the "Khibiny", why did they leave at home, gathered for a walk?).

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: PQ-18

5. to the Armenians -ARARAT! (someone ALREADY suggested before me)

All my life I was perplexed about injustice - "Ararat" brandy is Armenian, "Ararat" football team is in Yerevan, and Mount Ararat is in Turkey ...

The territory on which Ararat is located passed from the Armenian SSR (formed on November 29, 1920) to Turkey under the Moscow and Kars treaties of 1921. According to legend, in response to the protest of the Turkish government against the fact that the coat of arms of the Armenian SSR depicts Ararat, which is not part of Armenia, the People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs Chicherin replied: "The flag of Turkey depicts a crescent moon, but the moon is not part of Turkey."

Maybe it's like the situation with Krum and Nikita? I think the Armenians will not be against it if we provide them with "all possible assistance" ...

[Yeraz]

Quote: Zoldat_A

I think the Armenians will not be against it if you provide them with "all possible help" ...

And with the Kurds, what to do ?? In those lands, not Turks, but Kurds live, who periodically blow up the Turkish security forces. And there are more Kurds than Armenians in Armenia itself several times)))

[andj61]

Quote: Yeraz

Quote: Zoldat_A

I think the Armenians will not be against it if you provide them with "all possible help" ...

And with the Kurds, what to do ?? In those lands, not Turks, but Kurds live, who periodically blow up the Turkish security forces. And there are more Kurds than Armenians in Armenia itself several times)))

So at one time the Kurds were resettled there, that is, to the historical territory of Armenia, and their place in Anatolia near the border with Iraq was occupied by the Turks. Precisely so that there are no continuous zones of compact settlement of Kurds in the center of the country. The Kurds will be happy to return to their homeland.

[Yeraz]

Quote: andj61

The Kurds will be happy to return to their homeland.

Did you talk about this to the Kurds ??
Kurds 10-12 million Armenians in Armenia 3.5 million So let's not discuss nonsense)) Armenians barely keep small Karabakh with all the world Armenians and with the help of Russia, and you mean Kurds with huge territories))) Kurds consider these lands Kurdistan and blow up the Turks , not due to the fact that they are not allowed to leave these lands and overpower in Anatolia, but just the opposite)

[Butchcassidy]

Have you heard something about the Armenian-Kurdish conflict?
I personally do not. only about the Armenian-Turkish.

[andrew42]

They will not be against it, but they are unlikely to exchange trade shops in Russia for trenches near Ararat. The ancient Tigrans and Ashots are in the distant past, unfortunately.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: PQ-18

1. Cypriots return North
2. Syria to return the northern territories occupied by the Turks
3. Kurds give autonomy ...
4. Greeks - several islands
5. to the Armenians -ARARAT! (someone ALREADY suggested before me)

6. Annex Constantople to Russia,
7. Divide the European part of Turkey between Greece and Bulgaria. At the same time, the Bulgarian part should be transferred to the Bulgarians together with the Russian military base.
8. To unite the resort part of Turkey into the Trojan Kingdom.

The list can be continued. This is for those who want to blow off steam.
In fact, our military has already done everything. As I understand it, in violation of the agreements with the Sashniki, they activated air defense systems with a range of ... km, and announced that contacts with the Turks through military channels were terminated ...

We are waiting for Turkish planes to take off ...
And, I hope, now ours will fly over the territory of Turkey not for long, not deep, but regularly.

[Turkir]

1. Cypriots return North
2. Syria to return the northern territories occupied by the Turks
3. Kurds give autonomy ...
4. Greeks - several islands
5. to the Armenians -ARARAT! (someone ALREADY suggested before me)

6. For Georgians - the territory of Laziki - the Black Sea coast to Sinop.

[Butchcassidy]

There is not only the question of Ararat. Kars, Trabzon and Ardagan are at least. If we take the Sevres Peace Treaty, the guarantor of which of which is the USA as well, then there should be a lot of things for Armenia to depart to other countries.

[Sorokin]

I was glad about the Armenians, I stood in Yeghegnadzor. There are a lot of things to give.

[JAJAJA]

"The Turks will be destroyed and erased from the map forever, because this is a country that does not have God's blessing."

“Turkey will be divided into three to four parts.”

“Time is already counting down.”

“We (Greeks) will take our lands (link on the topic: Byzantine heritage), Armenians - their territories (link on topics: US intelligence report: Armenian people demand land from Turkey), Kurds - their lands (link on topic: Turkey: history Kurdish question) ”.

"The Kurdish problem is already on the way."

"It will not come true now, but very soon."

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: sever.56

Evgeny Satanovsky is at Solovyov's today.

I didn’t specifically look for it, but I had a thought more than once in a day - to listen to what Satanovsky had to say about it. I will definitely look in the evening. As Solovyov once said about him - "his awareness is frightening." And multiplied by healthy cold cynicism makes him an awesome analyst.

[tol100v]

Quote: Zoldat_A

"his awareness is frightening."

So he knows what he is talking about, but the cynicism about the "partners" very much by the way!

[arnulla]

Only, unfortunately, there are no such people in power.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: arnulla

Only, unfortunately, there are no such people in power.

He does not need power, but an expert or advisor for power.

Once I heard a long time ago that a good boss does not need to be seven spans in the forehead - you need to have seven intelligent deputies - each has one span ... There are seven like Satanovsky - and let them think about it. And the power is the power to analyze the proposals and make a decision ...

[arnulla]

Well, in principle, this is what I meant. Maybe not quite correctly put it

[Chikua]

only tourists need to be evacuated ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Chikua

only tourists need to be evacuated ...

And a deep mission. There are already pickets at our embassies all over Turkey.

[papas-57]

'' Evgeny Satanovsky: I would add: - to expand the Bosphorus so that it becomes the Bosphorus Sea ... !!! ''. The same thought came up. When I read the comments, I realized that I was late.

[Good me]

Quote: papas-57

'' Evgeny Satanovsky: I would add: - to expand the Bosphorus so that it becomes the Bosphorus Sea ... !!! ''. The same thought came up. When I read the comments, I realized that I was late.

Do not worry, in STROYOTRYAD, there is a chance to join ...

[Persistent]

I never rested in Turkey ... THEREFORE, I can safely say I did not feed this insignificant bunch of idiots and bastards from my wallet .....

[andj61]

Quote: Persistent

I never rested in Turkey ... THEREFORE, I can safely say I did not feed this insignificant bunch of idiots and bastards from my wallet .....

I was once in 2009. In order to warm the belly - it’s completely nothing. But it bothers me on the third day, but there's really nothing to see there. It is simply impossible to compare with Crete, Cyprus and Spain! And this year he was in the Krasnodar Territory, in Olginka. I went there by car with my family - and did not regret it at all. We traveled all over the coast, and even drove back to historical places on the way back - I really liked it. Next year we plan to go to the Crimea: there were acquaintances, very advised. There really is something to see.
But the Turks must be punished - it is imperative to support the Kurds, deploy an air defense system (though Syria has not been flown for a long time), start seriously ironing those who were involved in the deaths of our people, and support Armenia at the highest level in the effort to recognize the Armenian Genocide early 20th century. Come up with something else ...
And to think how to respond to the new dirty tricks of the Turks - since they are so insolent, they can close the straits for us ...

[Sterlya]

Quote: andj61

And to think how to respond to the new dirty tricks of the Turks - since they are so insolent, they can close the straits for us ...

Will be closed, and what next? I can't imagine it yet

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

then exactly expand the straits ........ with missiles ...

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

Me too .... the cruise missile for Erdogan is already ready ...

[Yuyuka]

Yes, it should not be otherwise - as soon as the pilots are taken out alive or dead, the entire border zone must undergo sterilization!

[saturn55]

very right

[Drmadfisher]

and a shield on the gates of Constantinople (the warriors of Prince Oleg nail the shield)

[ivan48857]

Plus Satanovsky!

[Butchcassidy]

Armageddonitch will not advise bad!

PS The kingdom of heaven to the dead, and to the survivors - a speedy return home!

[Roman13]

Turkey has become a Trojan horse for NATO, and in this case, a Trojan donkey.

[BEGA2015]

IMPORTANT!
Today, German mass media reported that two journalists were arrested in Turkey.
Erdogan himself has been charged with STATE CHANGE!
The indictment is that these two journalists published an article on the supply of arms and ammunition from Turkey to Islamic State terrorists under the control and direct support of Turkish specials. services.
Erdogan- THE LAST BATTERY AND THE CRIMINAL!
With such a creature no negotiations can be conducted, he will understand only the language of power!

[aktanir]

main!!! and what did the Turks achieve by knocking out our plane ?? what goal did they achieve ?? Mlyn, now they won't get a single gram of free Syrian oil, Assad, in principle, will not be removed or changed! and all the pack that was nurtured at the borders, as the offensive operation of the Syrian military progresses, will have to be squeezed into oneself.

[saygon66]

- They "poked a stick at an unfamiliar beast" ... And they will follow the reaction! And their further actions will depend on what arrives in response. If they get it in the belly, they will apologize "and we are cho? We are nicho ..." They will apologize, by the way, that they are in no hurry!

[GSH-18]

Quote: aktanir

main!!! and what did the Turks achieve by knocking down our plane ?? what goal did they achieve ??

They were doing someone else's assignment. Their interest is not here.
This is indicated by the fact that immediately after the incident, they ran to nature, to advise ... Instead (if it were a real force majeure) to call Moscow and explain. Who is the customer? Guess for yourself.

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

They were doing someone else's assignment. Their interest is not here.
This is indicated by the fact that immediately after the incident, they ran to nature, to advise ... Instead (if it were a real force majeure) to call Moscow and explain. Who is the customer? Guess for yourself.

But now Washington and Brussels are disowning Erdogan, saying that this is his personal initiative.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

But now Washington and Brussels are disowning Erdogan, saying that this is his personal initiative.

A clean kidnyak and a setup from the Naglo-Saxons. They wash their hands.

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

A clean kidnyak and a setup from the Naglo-Saxons. They wash their hands.

Now it's up to us to refresh the memory of the Turks, but first, take out the tourists and the diplomatic mission.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: GSH-18

A clean kidnyak and a setup from the Naglo-Saxons. They wash their hands.

Now it's up to us to refresh the memory of the Turks, but first, take out the tourists and the diplomatic mission.

This country is nato. Here you have to hit carefully, but hard. I mean, you need to calculate everything exactly. And such things are not done from the kondochka. But the fact that the Turks will answer for our pilots and the plane with interest, I do not doubt for a second!
At least shoot down their F-15s with our air defense systems over Syria (Pantsir, Thor), where they often visit to bomb the Kurds! Xpen what they will prove! Then we will wash our hands.
I think, for a start, you can shoot down the entire attacking Turkish air group entirely, so that without witnesses, watch out for the "Pantsir" from behind a hillock - it will be fine!

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

But the fact that the Turks will answer for our pilots and the plane with interest, I do not doubt for a second!

The cruiser Moscow received an induction to sink and shoot down anything that would pose a threat. Our bombers will now carry out missions with escort of fighters, Rutskoi said.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

The cruiser Moscow received an induction to sink and shoot down anything that would pose a threat. Our bombers will now carry out missions with escort of fighters, Rutskoi said.

Now what about the French pilots from an aircraft carrier?

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

Now what about the French pilots from an aircraft carrier?

I think in the next few hours the Aerospace Forces grouping will be reinforced with fighters such as the SU-30 and the SU-35 ... the Black Sea Fleet and the group based in Crimea will also receive the corresponding introductory letters. This is in the first chapter ... and there the Baltic will catch up with the Caspian Sea.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

I think in the next few hours the Aerospace Forces grouping will be reinforced with fighters such as the SU-30 and the SU-35 ... the Black Sea Fleet and the group based in Crimea will also receive the corresponding introductory letters. This is in the first chapter ... and there the Baltic will catch up with the Caspian Sea.

And urgently send "Kuznetsov" to the Mediterranean! "Moscow" alone will not survive for long without air cover. Who knows what else you can expect from these "friends" from Nata? ..

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

And urgently send "Kuznetsov" to the Mediterranean! "Moscow" alone will not survive for long without air cover. Who knows what else you can expect from these "friends" from Nata? ..

I think a clear sign that the Turkish planes will go astray will be the appearance of the MiG-31 somewhere not far away. Perhaps the Mediterranean squadron will be strengthened ... let's see ...

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

I think a clear sign that the Turkish planes will go astray will be the appearance of the MiG-31 somewhere not far away.

Khmeimim will increase the number of Su-30SM and may add Su-35.
And the deck KUB with Kuzi will fulfill the task set by the commander-in-chief

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

Khmeimim will increase the number of Su-30SM and may add Su-35.
And the deck KUB with Kuzi will fulfill the task set by the commander-in-chief

Well, our submarines will be there if the Turks try to rock the boat, and the Iskanders with Balami and Bastions in the Crimea will put them on alert.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: GSH-18

Khmeimim will increase the number of Su-30SM and may add Su-35.
And the deck KUB with Kuzi will fulfill the task set by the commander-in-chief

Well, our submarines will be there if the Turks try to rock the boat, and the Iskanders with Balami and Bastions in the Crimea will put them on alert.

At the Black Sea Fleet we now have 4 newest submarines "Varshavyanka", armed with "Caliber". I think two of them are already passing through the Turkish straits

[222222]

"Armenia is ready to support Russia." Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan expressed condolences to Vladimir Putin in connection with the plane shot down by Turkey in Syria and declared his readiness to provide any assistance. “We must fight this evil all together, and those who help the bandits must be punished. Armenia, as Russia's main ally in the south, is ready to help the brothers in the fight against terrorism. Turkey has violated the airspace of Armenia twice recently and this causes concern. The Middle East must be reassured, otherwise it could all end in a big war. - S. Sargsyan stated. "

[NEXUS]

Quote: 222222

"Armenia is ready to support Russia." Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan expressed condolences to Vladimir Putin in connection with the plane shot down by Turkey in Syria and declared his readiness to provide any assistance. “We must fight this evil all together, and those who help the bandits must be punished. Armenia, as Russia's main ally in the south, is ready to help the brothers in the fight against terrorism. Turkey has violated the airspace of Armenia twice recently and this causes concern. The Middle East must be reassured, otherwise it could all end in a big war. - S. Sargsyan stated. "

The Kurds in social networks expressed their readiness to avenge the Russian pilots, but they ask MANPADS to arrange a non-air zone on the border with Turkey ... but for now it is necessary to calculate everything in cold blood, and not chop in a fever. It is clear that "meanness" and "sabotage" , but the answer needs to be verified and very accurate.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

It is clear that "meanness" and "sabotage", but the answer needs to be verified and very accurate.

The moment has come for Kadyrov's guard. They and MANPADS in hand!

[GSH-18]

Quote: 222222

"Armenia is ready to support Russia." Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan expressed condolences to Vladimir Putin in connection with the plane shot down by Turkey in Syria and declared his readiness to provide any assistance. “We must fight this evil all together, and those who help the bandits must be punished. Armenia, as Russia's main ally in the south, is ready to help the brothers in the fight against terrorism. Turkey has violated the airspace of Armenia twice recently.

Along the way, the Turks ran into specifically their old sworn "friends" of the Armenians. The mouse's tears will flow to the cat. They didn’t recognize the Armenian genocide in Turkey, they didn’t even apologize, now you’ll catch it in full!

[Weyland]

Quote: 222222

Turkey has violated Armenian airspace twice in recent years and this raises concern

Quite a thick hint of the expected consequences of the 3rd violation ...

[Sterlya]

Quote: GSH-18

A clean kidnyak and a setup from the Naglo-Saxons. They wash their hands. request

I do not think. Wait and see.

[Persistent]

But now Washington and Brussels are disowning Erdogan, saying that this is his personal initiative.

Late !!! There is evidence that the Americans have recently redeployed the F-16 with air-to-air missiles closer to the border with Syria. Since ours notified the Turks about the routes of our aircraft, the Turks, with the help of the United States, organized an air ambush !!!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Persistent

Late !!! There is evidence that the Americans have recently redeployed the F-16 with air-to-air missiles closer to the border with Syria. Since ours notified the Turks about the routes of our aircraft, the Turks, with the help of the United States, organized an air ambush !!!

I am not at all surprised by the appearance of the SU-35 and additional Krasukh-4 in Syria, as well as the activation of the Black Sea Fleet off the coast of Turkey and Syria.

[GSH-18]

Yes. Life News has now shown a video. Our rescue Mi-8 was destroyed by the TOU while it was on the ground. One paratrooper was killed. The rest were all evacuated by the second helicopter, and are now at our base in Khmeimim.
Now these years are definitely over. We will never forgive this! And we have local allies!

[Sling cutter]

Quote: GSH-18

... Our rescue Mi-8 was destroyed by the TOU while it was on the ground. One paratrooper was killed. The rest were all evacuated by the second helicopter, and are now at our base in Khmeimim.

Get fucked up!
Do you remember the people said that we wouldn’t go to the ground "opera"?
But our losses - 224-2-1, a total of 227 of our SOULS, and how are we going to continue now?

[GSH-18]

Quote: Stroporez

But our losses - 224-2-1, a total of 227 of our SOULS, and how are we going to continue now?

What are you talking about? What are these numbers? At the moment we have TWO soldiers killed in Syria! A passenger plane is not a combat loss, a terrorist attack. We are fighting against terrorist attacks in Syria. Otherwise, a year later, in Russia, they would again start blowing up houses, buses, seizing theaters, etc. We have no way out. And the abominations are to blame for this!

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

What are you talking about? What are these numbers? At the moment, we have TWO dead servicemen!

He plus the fatalities aboard the Watermelon ... which is correct.

[ZAV69]

Wrong. As for the sausage, it is not clear yet who the customer is. Although those who need to seem to know, but not for the general public.

[NEXUS]

Quote: ZAV69

Wrong. As for the sausage, it is not clear yet who the customer is. Although those who need to seem to know, but not for the general public.

The customer has long been announced - this is the Minister of Defense of Qatar ... therefore, the GDP and on the 20-ke and named the states supporting terrorism.

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

just wet ... and wet again ... even in the toilet ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

Yes. Life News has now shown a video. Our rescue Mi-8 was destroyed by the TOU while it was on the ground. One paratrooper was killed. The rest were all evacuated by the second helicopter, and are now at our base in Khmeimim.
Now these years are definitely over. We will never forgive this! And we have local allies!

As far as I understand, the same Kurds will very soon have MANPADS. And in the recaptured territories, S-400s will be deployed, with Krasukhs and everything that goes towards the Turkish border will be destroyed. whether the Turkish planes fall "unexpectedly" ... of course all economic relations will be interrupted.

[GSH-18]

Now Kadyrov said: "Thousands of our fighters are always waiting for the order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Federation, you will be convinced that Turkey will very seriously regret what it has done! To swear friendship and kill from behind is a betrayal."

[Dart2027]

Quote: NEXUS

Drain the geek

Hard to say. I mean, it is not yet known who exactly gave the order - Erdogan or someone else.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Dart2027

Hard to say. I mean, it is not yet known who exactly gave the order - Erdogan or someone else.

And this is not an obvious fact for you? Such decisions, being a NATO member, are not made by Astana ...

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Such decisions, being a NATO member, are not made Astana...

Astana is the capital of Kazakhstan. You probably meant Ankara ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

Astana is the capital of Kazakhstan. You probably meant Ankara.

Yes, I'm sorry ... I'm worried ... thanks for correcting

[Dart2027]

Quote: NEXUS

And this is not an obvious fact for you? Such decisions, being a NATO member

This is what I mean. For Turkey, this is just a senseless act - no benefits, but a lot of problems. Erdogan does not look like an id ... and he hardly does not understand this. This means that either there are unaccounted for factors in which he expects to remain a winner, or he himself was taken by the throat. And depending on how the government is doing and what needs to be done.

[Yuyuka]

But now Washington and Brussels are disowning Erdogan, saying that this is his personal initiative.

Yes, nobody drains! they say - it's your business - Russia and Turkey! it is drained when the minimum is condemned !!! and here? They just set him up a little - he can get out, no, well, no, and there is no trial! color revolution! and the consequences? all the same, the USA wins - the Turks will feel bad in any way - ours will not be left without consequences, but the economic costs will be for us and for the Turks ... Is the Turkish stream covered? A grocery delivery? The "Big Game" is in progress, and Turkey is a pawn ... moreover, which thinks "to go to the queens", not suspecting that it is simply sacrificed for the sake of a completely different piece ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Yuyuka

Yes, nobody drains! they say - it's your business - Russia and Turkey!

The fact of the matter is that Erdogan counted on the protection of NATO and Washington, but received the answer - "these are your dealings with Russia" ... what if not a drain?

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Yuyuka

Yes, nobody drains! they say - it's your business - Russia and Turkey!

The fact of the matter is that Erdogan counted on the protection of NATO and Washington, but received the answer - "these are your dealings with Russia" ... what if not a drain?

Now they showed the NATO secretary general: "We are in solidarity with Turkey, the NATO countries have the right to protect the inviolability of their territory." And this is in the absence of evidence of crossing the Turkish border by our bomber. Even though he crossed their border, what kind of threat did he pose to Turkey when he returned home after the mission ???! Disgusting!

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

Now they showed the NATO secretary general: "We are in solidarity with Turkey, the NATO countries have the right to protect the inviolability of their territory." And this is in the absence of evidence of crossing the Turkish border by our bomber. Even though he crossed their border, what kind of threat did he pose to Turkey when he returned home after the mission ???! Disgusting!

I do not think that NATO is harnessing for Erdogan. In addition, we have ways to greatly complicate the life of both Erdogan and the whole of Turkey ... but again, the measures must be precise and very verified.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Turkey ... but again, the measures must be accurate

In response, it is necessary to shoot down a Turkish F-16 over Syria, they often roam there without asking. And then already and reconcile the verified measures!

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

In response, it is necessary to shoot down a Turkish F-16 over Syria, they often roam there without asking. And then already and reconcile the verified measures!

It's too early ... our people are in Turkey. But it will probably be necessary to shoot down and drown the Turks soon. Perhaps the CD will fly away in that direction ... let's see. Now our people need to be pulled out and the VKS group in Syria must be reinforced as quickly as possible. S-400 there ... in general, there are many ways and ways. It is important not to break the wood, but calmly and judiciously finish Erdogan and the Turkish Caliphate.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: GSH-18

In response, it is necessary to shoot down a Turkish F-16 over Syria, they often roam there without asking. And then already and reconcile the verified measures!

It's too early ... our people are in Turkey. But it will probably be necessary to shoot down and drown the Turks soon. Perhaps the CD will fly away in that direction ... let's see. Now our people need to be pulled out and the VKS group in Syria must be reinforced as quickly as possible. S-400 there ... in general, there are many ways and ways. It is important not to break the wood, but calmly and judiciously finish Erdogan and the Turkish Caliphate.

most importantly, Schaub Nata did not go to save the saviors of IS.

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

most importantly, Schaub Nata did not go to save the saviors of IS.

Now I am thinking about these, and deep work is underway. Explain who is XY.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: GSH-18

most importantly, Schaub Nata did not go to save the saviors of IS.

Now I am thinking about these, and deep work is underway. Explain who is XY.

Perhaps the Turks "in business" were offended for the dismantled fuel trucks and oil fields, however! So a certain "interest" in this act of aggression against our Aerospace Forces is visible ...
But!
He who sows the wind will reap the storm!

[saygon66]

- They are already explaining ... The Russian Air Force gave information that the Turkish Foreign Ministry is calling the ambassadors of Russia, China, America, France and Britain to discuss the situation with the downed plane.

[GSH-18]

Quote: saygon66

- They are already explaining ... The Russian Air Force gave information that the Turkish Foreign Ministry is calling the ambassadors of Russia, China, America, France and Britain to discuss the situation with the downed plane.

I wonder what they will babble there ?? Like, sorry, made a mistake, force majeure ???

[saygon66]

- It doesn't look like ... "Deutsche Welle" gives generally gloomy forecasts ... supports the Turks.
- The impression is that the Turks have rested, and in response to all questions they will shout "We warned you ... We will not allow ... We are not some kind of Balts .."

[viktor561]

Clear hell - it did not work to tie Russia into the war with Ukraine - as it should with the East - it will break off - the war will be for you bastards

[sssla]

Quote: Sterlya

Turks, creatures, because of cheap oil? I think it's not just oil. Yes, and the mattresses rather tried, stop

http://politobzor.net/show-72123-sbityy-su-24-isterika-turcii-pered-pobedoy-rf.h
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[Rrrj]

I don't know, but it seems true - then in general ...

[just exp]

the helicopter was sort of like a Syrian.

[Rrrj]

Quote: just explo

the helicopter was sort of like a Syrian.

All the same, our people died!

[Saburov]

Yes, this is a staging, after a volley, the crocodile would immediately work on them and you would not see people near the helicopter, where the security and cordon were, and even more so on the territory controlled by the militants, he would not sit down at all until the moment of visual contact with the pilot, safety instructions.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: rrrj

All the same, our people died!

Yes, no one died there. This is video editing. Promotional video.

[Yuyuka]

our helicopter, knocked out by a rifle, one Marine was killed. The rest were taken out. The militants destroyed it with a mortar. At a briefing an hour ago, the Ministry of Defense said ... One of our pilots was also shot in the air ... they showed in the news footage taken by the militants. The second is not yet known where. I think as soon as ours take them out of there, they will burn these fucking creatures along the border!

[GSH-18]

Quote: Yuyuka

our helicopter, knocked out by a rifle, one Marine was killed. The rest were taken out. WITH mortar the militants destroyed.

With a mortar helicopter ??? What is it like? Did they ask you to hang over the barrel while the mine was being loaded?

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: rrrj

I don't know, but it seems true - then in general ...

Complete lies. The helicopter stands on the ground and is illuminated in size so as not to miss. The shot was in bright sunlight, and the helicopter was shot down in the evening. Mounting. Always look at the little things carefully. By the way, there is not a single person next to the helicopter. And this is not an aviation base. The blades do not rotate.

[Aleksey_K]

Maybe I'm not quite right. The rescue helicopter would have been damaged by small arms, landed, and a Marine killed. The entire crew of the helicopter was evacuated by the second helicopter. The damaged helicopter was destroyed by the militants from mortars, and not from an ATGM (anti-tank weapon). Although the video seems to show an approaching rocket, which first hit the ground, then bounced off and then hit the helicopter.

[PM78]

I agree with you. I am sure that they organized an "ambush" on our Drying Yankees lousy, and the Turks followed Obamov's instructions .. And again slovenliness - where is the air defense / missile defense? and to put Mr. Shoigu together with GDP in a maize plant and force him to cross the Turkish border!

[win]

Turks creatures, because of cheap oil

Ordinary Turks will not get anything from this money for oil.
It is a family business Erdogan. His son was repeatedly seen (and there are photographs) with the leaders of the terrorists.
Money money money...

[Nikolay K]

I wonder if the Americans could have staged a provocation by deliberately distorting the gps signals in the area, i.e. so that the Turkish pilot would sincerely believe that our plane is deep in Turkey

[GSH-18]

Quote: Nikolai K

I wonder if the Americans could have staged a provocation by deliberately distorting the gps signals in the area, i.e. so that the Turkish pilot would sincerely believe that our plane is deep in Turkey

Yes, easily. zhps is the same pindos navigation system!

[Trogvar]

Yesterday (in our Far East it was yesterday) in some media there was information that one of the pilots was captured by almost Turkish special forces .. the question is: was it not this special forces that called the F-16? so as not to stupidly stay in the mountains in the Syrian territory with a bunch of burnt meat .. they could not know that "Drying" is empty .. they did it, and they were rescued from the metropolis in this way. Although .. maybe nonsense ..

[Aleksey_K]

Interesting idea, but air defense systems are not GPS-oriented. They have their own locators. A pilot never makes a decision to destroy a target in peacetime without permission to open fire from the ground. And he does not care where he is at the same time, over his own territory or over someone else's. He follows the order, period.

[Drmadfisher]

mattresses are still shitting in diapers now, they did not need such a turn (Turkey is the country of NAT), there will be a response, exactly

[Dreiko11]

Of course, we’re here in business, they specially put Turkish fighters shortly

[BEGA2015]

Today, German mass media reported that two journalists were arrested in Turkey.
Erdogan himself has been charged with STATE CHANGE!
The indictment is that these two journalists published an article on the supply of arms and ammunition from Turkey to Islamic State terrorists under the control and direct support of Turkish specials. services.
Erdogan- THE LAST BATTERY AND THE CRIMINAL!
With such a creature no negotiations can be conducted, he will understand only the language of power!

[The lead]

I was afraid that everything would be limited to co-patronage, so it turns out.

[tol100v]

Quote: Baikonur

In nature, there’s nothing left to think!

You must always think, even when the last drops of blood leave you! And in geopolitics there is always someone to think about and make an adequate decision! And the fact that Turkey shot itself in the head to please the State Department is already Turkey's problem!

[INVESTOR]

I would not be surprised if a Turkish military plane crashes after a while.

[GSH-18]

Quote: INVESTOR

I would not be surprised if a Turkish military plane crashes after a while.

The reaction should be like this: Inevitability is inevitable!

[just exp]

here and there are still losses, one marine was also killed to save, when they fired at the turntable from the ground. it was this turntable that was destroyed on the ground (it was abandoned) and was filmed walking on the Internet.

[vaschenko07]

that's just a big question - WHO IS MORE THANKS?

[djqnbdjqnb]

Quote: Baikonur

Unfriendly act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less "unfriendly facts" began!

So, after all, we are being dragged into a war with Turkey, and if we succeed, then with the entire NATO organization !! Failed in Ukraine - try in Syria! Don't you get it? The task of the GDP is to smash ISIS, not to involve it in the war!

[Bombardier]

Sergey Rumyantsev. Pilot of a Su-24 shot down today in Syria by the Turkish defenders of ISIL.
Everlasting memory. HERO!

[Bombardier]

His photo! Condolences to the family!

[alekc75]

Men like that were killed by bastards

[Baikonur]

My condolences! I watched the video of them being shot with parachutes and cried!

[Vita vko]

Wait you guys keep !!! Searches are in progress. Hopefully.

[AKS-U]

Baikonur, tell me where this video is.

[Persistent]

IDENTIFICATION

According to preliminary estimates, the deceased pilot could be Major Sergei Aleksandrovich Rumyantsev, a pilot of the Su-24M with serial number 0715323 of the 6980th Guards Aviation Base of the 1st category of military unit 69806, the air group of which is based at the Shagol airfield in Chelyabinsk (photo comparison was carried out at based on Tweet / archive / and photos from the InformNapalm database).

The information is confirmed in Chelyabinsk.

Eternal memory to the defender of the Motherland !!!!

[kapitan281271]

Guys, let's wait, it may not be confirmed, I really want to believe in a miracle!

[gas113]

It seemed that they were alive and that the Turks were engaged in liberation. Information on Lenta.ru

[GSH-18]

Quote: gas113

It seemed that they were alive and that the Turks were engaged in liberation. Information on Lenta.ru

Under the FABs of such "liberators"!
As a result of the operation planned by Turkey, two RA military personnel performing an anti-terrorist operation in Syria, a Su-24M pilot and a Marine from the Mi-8 rescue were killed! The fate of the SU-24M co-pilot is still unknown. If only ours would find it faster!

[Sea Wolf]

Everlasting memory. My sincere condolences to the family. The main thing is that the Motherland does not forget and does not leave loved ones in trouble.

[alekc75]

SORRY FOR MEN !!!!

[Bombardier]

Gone, men, to the sky! We grieve! waiting for retribution!

[Dr. Bormental]

He shouted at last
In an airplane burning:
- You live, you hold out! -
It came through the rumble.

We flew under god
Near the very paradise -
He climbed a little higher and sat there,
Well, I reached the ground.

Met the pilot dryly
Paradise airfield.
He sat on his belly
But did not crawl on it.

He fell asleep - did not wake up,
He sang - did not finish,
So here I am back
He came back, he came back
Well, he failed.
V. Vysotsky. Song about the pilot.
Eternal memory to HEROES!

[GSH-18]

Quote: Bombardier

Gone, men, to the sky! We grieve! waiting for retribution!

Retribution is inevitable!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Bombardier

Sergey Rumyantsev.

Eternal memory to the defender.

[Fonmeg]

Bombardier RU Today, 19:28 ↑

Sergey Rumyantsev. Pilot of a Su-24 shot down today in Syria by the Turkish defenders of ISIL.
Everlasting memory. HERO!

And judging by the diplomacy of the Defense Ministry, Russia cannot answer for the slain Hero!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Fonmeg

And judging by the diplomacy of the Defense Ministry, Russia cannot answer for the slain Hero!

Yes, it's good to moan, what did you want the YARS to start right now? Fast only cats e..sya.

[Karayakupovo]

As I said, in war as in war or as in the Jesuits, the end justifies the means. To shoot those who killed our pilots, most importantly, with bullets smeared with bacon, wrap the corpses in pig skins and bury them (as the American General Pershing did in the Philippines), and post the video on the Internet. And, most importantly, don't give a damn about everyone. We are responsible for our own. And who has the rest "ours" -We'll see.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Bombardier

Sergey Rumyantsev. Pilot of a Su-24 shot down today in Syria by the Turkish defenders of ISIL.
Everlasting memory. HERO!

http://cont.ws/post/152651
"The pilot was identified by the number of the downed aircraft"
IS THIS LIKE THIS ??? In my opinion, it is too early to trust this blogger! Let's wait for the official statements.

[kil 31]

NON-FRIENDLY ACT what a nobility.

[Egoza]

Quote: keel 31

NON-FRIENDLY ACT what a nobility.

From another article (about the Crimea) but it says CORRECT.

Dear Chekists, when you were a child in St. Petersburg courtyards, you fought with hooligans? Or were there only intelligent guys there? So there are such people in Ukraine in the afternoon with fire. To communicate with the local authorities, you need to master the elementary rules: do not enter the bazaars, always hit first, respond harshly to insults - in the teeth, finish off the enemy to the point of losing combat effectiveness, take it weakly - do not move out, if you move out on trifles - they will press on further. ... My own experience of direct observation of the events in Syria and Ukraine suggests that if something is actively awaited, it will definitely happen. Majority support is not needed to fuel a conflict.
We need a small active group for radical actions and external cover. And then the spiral of violence will spin by itself. Have you seen enough of this in recent years?
And because you need to hit first. And finish off!
Igor Dimitriev

[Karayakupovo]

Dear Egoza! Not in the teeth, but in the balls! That there was no continuation (kind). With respect to you, a Muslim from the Urals. (My uncle is buried in Voroshilovgrad (Lugansk).

[tol100v]

Quote: keel 31

NON-FRIENDLY ACT what a nobility.

What the hell is nobility !? Blinded by politics and shortsighted! Release now on the brakes, tomorrow they will throw the whole flock! And with the Pack (NATO) it will be much more difficult to fight!

[1976AG]

These words of Shoigu mean little, since he has no right to run in front of a steam locomotive (i.e. GDP). His task is to carry out the orders of the Supreme.

[Sterlya]

Quote: Kimblee

Unfriendly act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less "unfriendly facts" began!

It is not necessary to start a war with a lot of intelligence. But you can't leave unpunished either.
And what a pity for the guys ... The earth rest in peace to them.
War, war.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Sterlya

It is not necessary to start a war with a lot of intelligence. But you can't leave unpunished either.
And what a pity for the guys ... The earth rest in peace to them.

Weighted comment!

[vorobey]

Quote: Sterlya

It is not necessary to start a war with a lot of intelligence. But you can't leave unpunished either.

19:37

Turkey has not provided Russia with evidence that the Russian Su-24 has violated its airspace, said Russian President's press secretary Dmitry Peskov. “We primarily proceed from the testimony of our military specialists, who possess all the parameters of the flight of the aircraft that was shot down,” said Mr. Peskov. “These data indicate that the aircraft flew in the airspace of the SAR and was shot down in the Syrian sky.” ...


19:35

There was no talk about the termination of flights with Turkey - Dmitry Peskov


19:34

The Kremlin emphasizes that Moscow does not threaten Turkey with military consequences for the attack on the Su-24, but they warn about the "inevitable consequences." “The President did not talk about any military consequences, this should be the starting point,” said the press secretary of the head of state Dmitry Peskov. “The President did not allow such statements, but at the same time, of course, he noted the inevitability of consequences after such unfriendly actions of the Turkish side. ".

[Simple]

Quote: vorobey

The Kremlin emphasizes that Moscow does not threaten Turkey with military consequences for the attack on the Su-24,

Why rush into the pool?

PQ-18 the case speaks.

Turkey will cost more.

In general, I think that this incident did not go without the long arm of the United States. So to speak, a touchstone for committing rash acts.

[Wolverine]

The consequences are the sunken tankers of Endorgan and his son - that's how they would start.

[Aleksander]

Quote: vorobey

The Kremlin emphasizes that Moscow does not threaten Turkey with military consequences for the attack on the Su-24, but warns about the "inevitable consequences." “The President did not talk about any military consequences, this should be the starting point, -

Reuters also reports on the downed MI 24 helicopter, which was looking for SU 24 pilots.
It is impossible not to answer the Turks! Or else you have to fold up and leave, but they will still beat you, and EVERYTHING is already in pursuit and after, too ...
Bitter day ....

[Yarik]

“First you need to get involved in a serious battle, and then you will see. "
Napoleon Bonaparte It didn't end well ...

[GOGY]

I disagree. Napoleon was clear about everything until he contacted us. And we are not the French and Turkey is not Russia, something like that ...

[Yuyuka]

It is not necessary to start a war with a lot of intelligence. But you can't leave unpunished either.

support! will not be left unpunished! looking at Putin at a meeting with the King of Jordan, how calmly, quietly he speaks, you understand - they will not seem a little! just not by military action, too straightforward! there are sooo many unspoken ways to make it clear that the Turks are wrong and they will bite their elbows ... and not their own ...

[GSH-18]

Quote: Sterlya

It is not necessary to start a war with a lot of intelligence. But you can't leave unpunished either.
And what a pity for the guys ... The earth rest in peace to them.
War, war.

Fighting cannot be forgiven.
Where should you put the comma?

[da n ya 1914]

The most important thing is the world order, but what the Turks did is too much.

[Rrrj]

Quote: Kimblee

Unfriendly act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less "unfriendly facts" began!

Everything is fine comrades - do not fuss - all the way - mine already in the previous topics said - sho the answer will be tough.
Well, so what to say to this: "At present, the Russian Ministry of Defense is developing a set of measures to respond to such incidents."
A complete madhouse - right now, new notes of protest, speeches will be written - that's all the preparation.

[sssla]

Quote: rrrj

A complete madhouse - right now, new notes of protest, speeches will be written - that's all the preparation.

As smart as a vutka and why poor ???

[Rrrj]

Quote: sssla

As smart as a vutka and why poor ???

Aa what urapatriot - fart is on fire?
PS. Enrages that I was right?
PPP. And where did you get that I'm poor? Or do you judge by your Ukraine?

[Oleg14774]

Quote: rrrj

right now, new notes of protest, speeches will be written - that's all the preparation.

If so, then all ours are worthless ... well, you know who I mean. Until then, let's wait.

[Rrrj]

Quote: Oleg147741

well, you know who I mean. Until then, let's wait.

I really, really hope. But my nerves were at their limit - my head ached.

[Vadim237]

Remember the shelling of our border territory from Ukraine in 2014 - two servicemen were killed and my grandfather was killed right next to the house, then our Foreign Ministry and the Ministry of Defense were also involved in co-operation - today the situation is the same.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Vadim237

Remember the shelling of our border territory from Ukraine in 2014 - two servicemen were killed and my grandfather was killed right next to the house, then our Foreign Ministry and the Ministry of Defense were also involved in co-operation - today the situation is the same.

And what do you suggest? To strike at the territory of Turkey? Then we will have to fight the entire NATO bloc. Is this your goal? Only diplomatic and other MILITARY methods are applicable here. But Turkey will answer for this black atrocity. Maybe not this minute, but she will answer! I have no doubt about that.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: rrrj

Everything is fine comrades - do not fuss - all the way

And what does the word "kipish" mean in a criminal camp hair dryer? Are you a criminal or what?

[Rrrj]

Quote: Алексей_К

And what does the word "kipish" mean in a criminal camp hair dryer? Are you a criminal or what?

I answered in the same way as they wrote to me in the last article (see my comments).
P.S. This is how schoolchildren talk on YouTube nowadays - we learn little by little))

[Lord of the Sith]

I sit, look at various sites, the composition and condition of the Turkish army and what it can oppose in case of war ...

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: Sith Lord

I sit, look at various sites, the composition and condition of the Turkish army and what it can oppose in case of war ...

Well, here it is necessary to take in a compartment with NATO and the Igil coalition, which will support with all their might, albeit not directly.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Sith Lord

I sit, look at various sites, the composition and the state of the Turkish army and what it can oppose in case of war.

What interests you? Turkey is a NATO member. But even if it is neutral, a military conflict on the territory of Turkey is impossible, unless Russia openly supports the Kurds. Then, of course, Erdogan is finished and he freaks out for a reason, there is a reason. In addition, it is obvious that the Turkish Air Force is now barred from entering Syria, possibly Iraq. The flight will be one way only.

[Fregate]

You can minus me, but I believe that the answer from our side should be military and asymmetrical. Then you need to declare that we have no more complaints. And if there is another incident with our aircraft or ships and Turkey is involved in this, then our next missiles (Caliber, x-102) will be from special warheads. Because economic sanctions are bullshit. The same as the EU introduced to us, but they are reciprocal. And the Turks from us buy various products for an amount several times higher than we do from them. Including economic sanctions will also hit us harder.

[Snake831]

It's a shame to endure this, people! It's just a shame! What sanctions ?! What unfriendly acts ?! This is how our rulers pay for honor and courage to those who expose themselves to fire! All this verbiage of our government is nothing but a mockery of us all! War is disgusting, scary and difficult. But if we do not stand up for ourselves, then who ?

[Bird the Talker]

Yes, I'm sorry, to have any consequences. the severance of deep relations, until the moment the perpetrators of this treacherous launch are punished, the flyer Ph16 is not considered the termination of trade relations. export of Russo tourist through SCO partners BRICS EVRAZES. Destroying an airplane is a declaration of war. or does the "senior warrant officer" have a different opinion?

[Rrrj]

Quote: Bird Talker

export of Russo tourist through SCO partners BRICS EVRAZES

Yes, if - otherwise they themselves sit on their necks - Russia will have to take out all the CIS from there.

[ayyildiz]

In the Turkish press, information appeared that both pilots were alive! And the dead pilot from the helicopter was!

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: ayyildiz

In the Turkish press, information appeared that both pilots were alive! And the dead pilot from the helicopter was!

Arabs are very fond of filming videos of their victories. Where is the video? Where is the video about the helicopter pilot? Until it appears on Islamist websites, it cannot be trusted. Something like, one woman said. And you repeat.

[samoletil18]

Quote: ayyildiz

In the Turkish press, information appeared that both pilots were alive! And the dead pilot from the helicopter was!

God! Make it true.

[da n ya 1914]

The plane had a commander and a navigator. They ejected. They were fired upon as they parachuted down and killed the commander, and the navigator was rescued by the Syrian Special Forces.

[arnulla]

Maybe the Turks are lying?

[AKS-U]

Wars even started on the basis of a football match.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: AKS-U

Wars even started on the basis of a football match.

Very interesting, but can you give an example?

[andj61]

Quote: Алексей_К

Quote: AKS-U

Wars even started on the basis of a football match.

Very interesting, but can you give an example?

And you type in the search engine "football war" - and you will see that he is right!

The Football War (English Football War; Spanish Guerra del Fútbol) is a fleeting military conflict between El Salvador and Honduras, which lasted six days (from 14 to 20 July 1969). According to international media, the immediate reason for the war was the loss of the Honduran team to the El Salvador team in the playoffs of the qualifying stage of the World Cup, which explains the name given to the conflict.
Despite the transience, the conflict cost dearly to both sides; total losses amounted to several thousand people; the war has buried the regional integration project of the Central American Common Market. The peace treaty between the countries was signed only 10 years after the end of the war.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: andj61

And you type in the search engine "football war" - and you will see that he is right!

And you read this entire text yourself, only in full. The reasons for this war were border conflicts from abroad on the maps of these countries. Each considered some territories to be their own. And the war began not because of the result of the match, but because of the killing of citizens by both countries of each other. And this does not depend on the result of the match. They would still kill each other. The countries were already at war on the border with each other and considered themselves enemies.

[Persistent]

Russia has every right, with the consent of Assad, to close Syrian airspace ...

[Max_Bauder]

What follows is a very mild formulation for the status of the defense department:
We regard the actions of the Turkish Air Force as an unfriendly act.

and then what, a harmless action?

[Xsanchez]

One thing pleases, the Europeans began to slowly merge Turkey, seeing how stupid the Turks are doing, no one wants to harness for them, but it is necessary, because they were admitted to NATO in 1952.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Xsanchez

One thing pleases, the Europeans began to slowly merge Turkey, seeing how stupid the Turks are doing, no one wants to harness for them, but it is necessary, because they were admitted to NATO in 1952.

They were admitted to NATO only for reasons - to place American missiles with nuclear warheads on Turkish territory, to build American bases and tracking systems for the USSR. And to fight for Turkey is part of NATO's plans and has never been included, even if there are commitments. The bottom line is to try to destroy the USSR from the territory of Turkey, but NATO does not give a damn that it will burn in a nuclear fire. Turkey is simply a deceived country.

[dauria]

Wars over less "unfriendly facts" began!

Anything can be a reason for war. We need reasons. Real, primarily strategic, territorial and (or) economic. The plane may become a pretext, but then Turkey slips it, opening the way for those who need war. Guess three times who needs to kick the Russian Federation out of the Middle East?
Who else believes that Erdogan himself went on a rampage? The states climbed, and it seems to be serious.

[opus]

Quote: Kimblee

Wars over less "unfriendly facts" began!

never when
In June 2012, the Syrian army shot down an F-4 reconnaissance aircraft of the Turkish Air Force in the Mediterranean coastal zone after violating the air border over Syrian territorial waters. Both pilots were killed and their bodies were found during a joint search by the Syrian and Turkish navies.

Then Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced that “Outraged” by the Syrian decision to shoot down the plane, which he said was on a training mission. “A short-term [air] border violation will never cannot be a pretext for an attack» - quoted him by the BBC

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http://vod.alarabiya.net/2012/09/0339ea9793548372f6b79a2c98d3145c.flv

Al Arabiya released documents that allegedly prove the involvement of Russian specialists in the plane crash and claimed that Turkish pilots were captured alive and then secretly executed.
On December 26, 1950, an American RB-29 reconnaissance aircraft violated the USSR air border in the Far East. It was attacked by two Soviet MiG-15 fighters and shot down. The plane fell into the sea, nothing is known about the fate of the crew.
On November 6, 1951, the US Navy's P2V Neptune aircraft was shot down by Soviet air defense forces over the Sea of ​​Japan. 10 people are missing. After the incident, the USSR government issued a statement stating that the bomber,
violating the airspace of the USSR, did not obey the order to land and opened fire on Soviet aircraft, after which he came under return fire.
On June 13, 1952, the US Air Force RB-15 was shot down by Soviet MiG-29 fighters over the Sea of ​​Japan. 12 people are missing.
On October 7, 1952, a US Air Force RB-29 with eight crew members was shot down over the Pacific Ocean. Nothing is known about the fate of the pilots.
On July 29, 1953, an RB-50 aircraft invaded Soviet airspace in the area
Vladivostok and was shot down by two Soviet MiG-17 fighters. Killed 15 crew members, one person managed to escape. Ten hours after the fall, it was picked up by the American destroyer Picking (DD-10).
On September 4, 1954, the US Navy's P2V Neptun aircraft violated Soviet airspace in the Vladivostok area and was shot down. One person died, nine others were saved.
On November 7, 1954, an RB-29 US Air Force reconnaissance aircraft violated Soviet airspace in the Kuril Islands and was shot down by Soviet fighters. 11 crew members jumped out with a parachute; one of them died, the rest managed to escape.
On June 22, 1955, a US Navy patrol P2V-5 "Neptune" was attacked by Soviet fighters near St. Lawrence Island in the Bering Sea. The plane crashed onto the island. Seven of the 10 crew members were injured, but all survived.
On April 17, 1955, an RB-47 US Air Force electronic reconnaissance aircraft was shot down over the Bering Sea. Three people are missing.
On September 10, 1956, an RB-50 US Air Force aircraft was shot down near the Sea of ​​Japan. 16 crew members are missing.
On August 27, 1962, Soviet air defense shot down a U-2 aircraft in the Far East. Nothing is known about the fate of the pilot.

[papas-57]

Or maybe the Americans put their paw to the downing of the plane. We shifted the readings of our GPS system by 20-30 kilometers. And the Turks are completely sure that the Russian plane is flying over their territory.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: papas-57

GPS systems for 20-30 kilometers. And the Turks are completely sure that the Russian plane is flying over their territory.

And you know a sensible idea. They've already used it somewhere. It seems also in the Middle East.

[opus]

Quote: papas-57

We shifted the readings of our GPS system by 20-30 kilometers.

It was "in the morning." The visibility is excellent.
Turks (Air Force) have been flying there since the Turkish Air Force appeared (1911).
They studied the area at Yat.
2 TAK and 8 Avb are deployed in Diyarbakir

[ava09]

Quote: Kimblee

Unfriendly act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less "unfriendly facts" began!

Why is there such confidence that it is urgent to start a war with NATO? And the certainty of ending it on Capitol Hill? Less hysterics, I think that Putin and Shoigu are no less patriots than you. But now I know for sure which is smarter ...

[Sashka]

Damn .... I saw now the MURDER OF A CITIZEN of the Russian Federation. The pilot. How they tormented him, shouted Akbar ... These are Turkmans. Recognize them as a terrorist group. Bring them down tries. FSA gave the go-ahead:
05:47 Russia and Turkey should discuss the Su-24 incident and take measures to prevent escalation, US President Barack Obama said: “I think it is very important now that Russia and Turkey talk to each other and find out exactly what happened, and took steps to prevent further escalation "Turkey, like any country, has the right to defend its territory and airspace," Barack Obama said.
Those. sort it out yourself. And we will figure it out, and we will get to you ... Good day.

[KVS]

put the military attaché and the ambassador on a stake on the red square, at the same time wipe all military airfields and ports of Turkey off the face of the earth

[GRAY]

Quote: Kimblee

Wars over less "unfriendly facts" began!

There will be no war because of the downed plane. Most likely, it will be like with Georgia in due time - a stop of transport links will sever trade relations.
In addition, to begin with, Russian citizens should be removed from there, and then only badly talk.

[Koshak]

Quote: Kimblee

Unfriendly act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less "unfriendly facts" began!

I think that there should be a response. Well, ours cannot swallow such a slap in the face. They just don't advertise it yet. And if he only confines himself to "concern," then Putin and Shoigu will immediately fall below the plinth in the eyes of the people.

[Dmitry Toderes]

ISIS staged several terrorist attacks in Turkey, and the Turks support them. PPC.

[meriem1]

MORE THIS was Ferdinand's murder a pretext for the massacre? So not a question for a long time

[yehat]

Let me remind you that fascist Germany did not attack the USSR after the downing of its planes in May and early June.
And it would be difficult for you to find a more aggressive country.
She attacked later and for completely different reasons.
therefore, start studying history instead of writing nonsense.

[lonovila]

To our great regret ... - all this pomp and bravado with Russian missile strikes from ships and so on is nullified by just one strike from a NATO member.

[Sergei1982]

The Syrian military evacuated the second Russian pilot of the downed Russian Su-24 bomber. This was reported on the Facebook page of the Lebanese TV channel Al Mayadeen.

Communication with the pilot, according to the TV channel, was established after a six-hour search. The special forces of the Syrian army took the pilot out of the rear of the militants for two hours. He is currently safe at the Russian Khmeimim airbase.

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

Yes sir! An unfriendly act is when an egg was launched into the window of the embassy ..........

[oblako]

They sided with ISIS. Over the corpse of our pilot, bearded scum mocked in front of the whole world. He was shot from the ground while parachuting. This is an organized ambush on our plane. This is all a VERY unfriendly act. Straight ALL unfriendly FAD.LA Erdogan.

[Adhesives]

Russia needs to supply modern weapons including air defense to the Kurds and in every possible way support the creation of an independent Kurdish state. And of course a boycott of Turkish resorts. Welcome to Israel.

[shultc]

Do you want war ?!

[skrabplus.ru]

V.V.P. knows what to do, the beginning of the war and provocateurs wanted. Let's do smarter.
Although, I would not mind looking at the retaliation of the Russian Aerospace Forces ...
Half-mothers will answer for everything!

[anderles66]

What do you mean! How brave you are! Do you have the lives of 150 million people behind you? I am sure that you will not be able to protect yourself either! Even a gopnik in the alley is usually brave because he has a godfather to protect. Who will help Russia? Tell us! Maybe Belarus, which sells weapons to Qatar?

[lewerlin53rus]

Their memory is short. Forgotten and Sinop, and how they regretted at 45. They even forgot their own words. When a Turkish plane was shot down in Syria, wandering around where they were not asked

[Hubun]

the veins shook anyway, when they learned that the Pentagon turned on the fool. From the Turkish government, a life pension to the families of the victims is at least

[dorz]

Masks removed ...

[Andrey NM]

Well, Europeans, take Turkey to your place in the EU! A worthy "member"!

[Finches]

Yes, it is clear that Erdogan, as an Islamist, shares with the leadership of IS! Especially in the share of the sale of free oil ... In addition to the tough answer at the official level, the Kurds need money and weapons to plant ...!

[Abakan]

start to otmazyvatsya to turn away from their stsuk (Turks) SCARY !!!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Abakan

start to otmazyvatsya to turn away from their stsuk (Turks) SCARY !!!

And now the most interesting thing in this situation begins. Italy has disowned ... who next from the NATO camp will "scold" Erdogan? Let's see if the Turks will find support from their masters or not. But our Foreign Ministry has already announced that there is no need to go to Turkey .I think our tourists are hastily taken out.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: NEXUS

who next from the NATO camp will "scold" Erdogan

In general, even the states reported that they had nothing to do with the actions of the Turkish Air Force.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vladimirets

In general, even the states reported that they had nothing to do with the actions of the Turkish Air Force.

When everyone understands everything, and all vacationers are taken out of Turkey, then it will be possible to talk with the Turks in an adult way.

[Rrrj]

Quote: NEXUS

When everyone understands everything, and all vacationers are taken out of Turkey, then it will be possible to talk with the Turks in an adult way.

Then the precedent will disappear. Strike while the iron is hot.

[NEXUS]

Quote: rrrj

Then the precedent will disappear. Strike while the iron is hot.

It was necessary to accompany the bomber with cover fighters, and not "chew snot" and think it might carry. There would be an escort and "stuck" the F-16 into the ground, then "iron would be anchored." all tourists abroad in Turkey, in order to then take some more effective measures.

[TT62]

At the training grounds and in the zomboyaschik show (rockets bounce, rubella, mercury, etc.) for what? Now it seems to me it is necessary to resolve the issue with the pilots (God forbid that they were alive). And then "extinguish" the Turkish air defense by means of electronic warfare, which would have already fallen, and burn all these oslo.bov. And there should not be any "partners" during our strikes in the air. And burn, burn, burn, give, moderate and all who are not in our trench.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: NEXUS

It was necessary to accompany the bomber with cover fighters, and not "chew snot" and think maybe it will carry

It's easy to speculate in hindsight. Turkey did not shoot down Russian planes before. And if ISIS has missile defense systems, for example, the Americans will present ISIS with the Donald Cook destroyer. And you will say again that it was necessary to fly at an altitude of over 320 km.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Алексей_К

It's easy to speculate in hindsight. Turkey did not shoot down Russian planes before. And if ISIS has missile defense systems, for example, the Americans will present ISIS with the Donald Cook destroyer. And you will say again that it was necessary to fly at an altitude of over 320 km.

There were DIRECT AND NOT DIFFERENTIAL statements from the Turkish side that our planes will be shot down. What does the back number have to do with it? Why have the SU-30 been transferred to Latakia? For beauty? The bomber must be accompanied by cover fighters. This is an alphabet.

[Aleksandr1959]

In short, "partners" are starting to slowly merge Turkey

[Minstrel]

Quote: NEXUS

who next from the NATO camp will "scold" Erdogan?

If I am not mistaken, the President of the Czech Republic was the first to spot. I saw it on the news on Russia-2 at 17-00

[15ghost10]

Yes, this old man is on friendly terms with his head. I will express my opinion on this. I think the Americans wanted to drag us into a war with Turkey, and if Russia got involved, they would immediately open a front in the East of Ukraine.
As for the pilots, I would like to hope that the guys are alive. By the way, even the Germans did not allow themselves to shoot our ejection pilots. Russians, I wish you all endurance, we will punish these you ...

[Cu6up9k]

Russia will have to make a very difficult decision in this situation. Attempts to drag our country into the war are more and more frank and harsh.

[SibSlavRus]

The counter-terrorist operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the SAR, through the efforts of our sworn enemies and provocations, is capable of simultaneously taking on a different form: whoever sows the wind will reap the storm.

Vladimir Putin: “Even 50 years ago, Leningradskaya Street taught me one rule: if a fight is inevitable, you must beat first.”

There are so many contradictions in the world now that "a fight is inevitable," and if such a task is set, we will be dragged in.

Allies are defined, alliances too. The CSTO is functioning.
I only want one thing - the total destruction of enemies and their states, without unnecessary humanism and Russian generosity. History shows that all the same, the Judas-states do not value this, even if they owe us their freedom, life and statehood.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: SibSlavRus

Counter-terrorist operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the SAR.
Vladimir Putin: “Even 50 years ago, Leningradskaya Street taught me one rule: if a fight is inevitable, you must beat first.”

Iii ??? Already they gave it in the face ... Where are the actions except words?

[sergeant1986]

Again, at the moment of rearmament, they are trying to drag us in. We would have a couple more - three years !!!

[wandlitz]

and the deputy speaker of the Italian Senate accused Turkey of joining the war on the side of ISIS
So it is. Not any opinion.

[Delph]

Yes, no matter how the "political" interpretation sounds, I think, the main thing is that the answer is adequate to the two lives of Our guys And the mother's shed tears !!!

[Same lech]

Currently, the Russian Ministry of Defense is developing a set of measures to respond to such incidents.
Fighting against terrorists in Syria will continue.

The best answer is to place our S-300 and S-400 ... as well as electronic warfare stations near the border with TURKEY and turn them on every time Turkish aircraft fly over.
In addition, it is necessary to continue strikes against those who shot our pilots ... the Turks will now fail to fool people about the peace-loving Turkmens in this area ... to crush the reptiles as well as ISIS ... from one field a berry.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

The best answer is to place our S-300 and S-400 ... as well as electronic warfare stations near the border with TURKEY and turn them on every time Turkish aircraft fly over.

When the electronic warfare is turned on, it is quite possible that avionics will go crazy and fly into the territory of Syria to soak without warning.

[maai]

They are already there, in one form or another.
The fact that "mechanisms are being developed to respond to similar situations, etc." this is bullshit. Such things, and in general all "moments", are calculated in normal heads - far in advance and for any perspective.
The sky should have been closed tightly for a long time and everyone who was not invited by Syria and without a UN mandate had to be thrown out of there, and not "cooperate" with just anyone and all sorts of "partners". The same France, under the pretext of responding to terrorist attacks, now climbs anywhere and does anything in the manner of the United States. In Libya, she played first violin, and now the same Sarkozy, who took part in it specifically, now “visits” Putin and counts on “trends”.
PS Taking into account that all Serdyukovs and other "cosmonauts" are doing fine, good people, as always, get hit, and those born to crawl, as usual, direct flights - nothing good can be expected.
...etc. etc.

[11 black]

The best thing that can be done now, as has already been said on TV, is to burn out, with napalm and cluster bombs, calibers and Iskander, turn into fertilizer all the manure that shot at our pilots near the Turkish border (if they were really killed), so that every aslambek hall, that if suddenly, under some circumstances, a Russian soldier gets to them, he must be fed, watered, bandaged, apologized and released - that's the only way!

[gas113]

Thermobar to them in akbar !!!! Turcomon powder !!!! Let the Turks cry

[stayer]

Erdogan's son, Bilal, should probably go to Allah. First of all, the caravans are his work, well, justice must be from God ...

[GDV]

Forgive the Lord, the soul of your servant Sergius, forgive all sins, free and involuntary, and grant the Kingdom of Heaven.
Condolences to your family ... ... be strong ... and pray your prayer to him for forty days most of all.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: sober

Bl ...... Have we swallowed again and kept silent?

They didn’t keep silent anymore and didn’t swallow!

[Gardamir]

They did not keep silent anymore and did not swallow

Example. Blah blah doesn't count.

[Rrrj]

Quote: Gardamir

They didn’t keep silent anymore and didn’t swallow. Example. Blah blah doesn't count.

But where were you guys before - in the last article I was dipped and smeared in the slop for such exclamations.

[goblin xnumx]

what can a marshal do, you can't leytech :)

[ia-ai00]

... Deputy Speaker of the Italian Senate accused Turkey of joining the war on the side of ISIS

The Turks showed who they really are ... in a word, as they were ENEMIES of Russia, they remained vile jackals.

[sabakina]

The Turks were beaten and will be beaten ... And who will forget ... ... Let us remind you!

[zekaze1980]

Toughness is needed immediately in such matters, I hope our leadership will not mumble in words and deeds.
And if they hit you on the right cheek, then hit back and right in the nose!

[Oleg14774]

Quote: zekaze1980

Rigidity is needed immediately in such matters

You can immediately break such firewood!

[ALEA IACTA EST]

It is necessary to drive all these ambassadors.

[polite people]

Kingdom of Heaven for the Russian warrior !!!

[Alexander 3]

Turkey de facto supports ISIS. In my opinion, they are also our enemies, which entails an expansion of the conflict. These hostile steps should not remain unanswered. Tourists should be withdrawn, food should not be bought, ISIS oil should be burned with tanks and fuel trucks.

[Monster_Fat]

The feeling of "de ja vu" does not leave me: Crimea, old enemies - a coalition of Anglo-Saxons, Turks, French ... True, the French have not yet actively "fit in" against us, but anything is possible ... Direct return to the era of the Crimean War in 1853 years. That war ended sadly for us. I hope that it will not reach the second Crimean one with a smooth transition to the third world war ... oh, I really hope.

[sergeant1986]

Then we didn't have YARS and POPLES!

[samoletil18]

Then there were no railways in this direction.

[Frigate]

We regard the actions of the Turkish Air Force as an unfriendly act.

Actually, this is a declaration of war. And it was created with the filing of the United States, in order to see the reaction of Putin. Utrue or answer as expected. Tobish the presence of modern weapons, that's not all, you still need to be a man to use it.

[plaha]

Yes, there are several thousand of our tourists, if ours answer, at best they will end up in a Turkish prison together with women and children.

[Turkir]

Yes, there are several thousand of our tourists

I found out - there are ten thousand tourists from the Russian Federation.

[KaPToC]

Our people don’t take a taxi to the bakery.

[Natoiscoming]

Why doesn't Turkey have the right to defend its borders? After all, they have warned our diplomats many times about the consequences.

[stonks]

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation insists that the plane was shot down OVER THE SYRIAN TERRITORY and says that there is evidence of this.

[Dr. Serg]

What? Our plane attacked Turkey? And then the Turkish planes flying into Syria should be shot down? It flashed somewhere that one of the pilots was from Chelyabinsk ... I give a tip .. In this city there are several barbecues belonging to the Turks, the Turks work there ... they are fed with rotten meat and slops .. and the people hawala ...

[TOR2]

Quote: NatoIScoming

why turkey has no right to defend its borders? After all, they have warned our diplomats many times about the consequences.

A little history for you. At one time, "blackbirds" simply exhausted our air defense by deliberately invading our airspace. It was possible to shoot them down, but there is one very important nuance here. Where the debris will fall. If to our territory - then please note of protest, etc. , but if in neutral waters or the territory of another state, then the situation changes exactly the opposite, and here it does not matter whether the plane violated or not. The blackbirds knew what they would get ... and were far from invading.

[sergeant1986]

It has. only we can shoot down all planes in its airspace with the permission of Syria. And I think soon the f-sixteenths will start falling from the sky. Technical failures and so on.

[kirillovleva]

another toothlessness - to evacuate the Russians and erase the ankara

[Mountain shooter]

Is Shoigu soft? What should I take with the attaché? Our General Staff is preparing a response. For starters, this mountainous Latakia is mixed with shit. Nobody will be able to cross the border. This brigade, which boasted of the execution of the pilots, should be destroyed demonstratively. Preferably with filming. Well, let the Chechen volunteers cleanse this mountainous Latakia to the ground. Take prisoners only for interrogation. Not for long. At the same time, they will clean up "their" crazy ones. Otherwise, catch them all over the Caucasus.

[revnagan]

How did they die !?

[Ze Kot]

They started shooting in the air. And the video shows that they are working in the landing area with artillery or mortars. And they wrote that on landing they captured and shot.

[Bashibuzuk]

They shot the guys in the air.
These. lousy and bearded.
...
Burn, burn evil.
Where are our Solntsepeki?

[AlexTires]

shot in the air ...

[BIA29-80]

Quote: Bombardier

His photo! Condolences to the family!

Everlasting memory

[stonks]

The orientation of Turkish leaders towards radical Islam has long been visible. Years.
The President of Turkey has forgotten the precepts of Ataturk and is trying (and he succeeds) to transform a secular state into an Islamic one.

[Gunther]

Earth down dead.
And enough single flights for a combat mission, the lives of our pilots are more important than reports to the public.

... Deputy Chairman of the Senate Roberto Calderali, commenting on the incident, called Turkey "a Trojan horse of radical Islamists, which they use to shoot at the West."

Turkey is more like a Trojan worm.

[dojjdik]

the maneuvers of our fleet together with the Egyptian; support for Assad and SAR and now a trip to Jordan-Putin sees the ring and the noose around Israel will work-the Jews go for broke one of the accomplices of the mythical igil Erdogan threw off his mask and showed his bestial grin; the next zt of the sheikhs of saudi arabia and finally the main hypocrite of israel

[Yes I am Russian]

Quote: GDV

Forgive the Lord, the soul of your servant Sergius, forgive all sins, free and involuntary, and grant the Kingdom of Heaven.

Of course, I understand everything, but writing this is not the topic. you can pray to yourself.

[Fonmeg]

Because of this toothlessness, we also lost the MI-24 helicopter while trying to find Sushka's pilots! And we continue to smear something under our nose, so what?

[SAM 5]

We regard the actions of the Turkish Air Force as an unfriendly act.

Damn it, you gotta blurt out something like that.

[sledge]

Recall the Russian ambassador from Turkey and expel Turetsky from Russia! Close the departure of Russians to Turkey !!!

[ML-334]

It's time to show something like the "Chebarkul meteorite". Creepy and graphic.

[Noctis]

it's good that I'm not the president .... very good ... otherwise today everything is deep. contacts with turkey would be cut off. the border with Turkey is closed, all migrant workers and other citizens of Turkey would go home. our embassy has been recalled. plus I would definitely say that everything. ALL! military aircraft flying from the territory of turkey to syria (the affiliation can be changed as the privateers once changed flags) will be destroyed with complete non-guarantee of the lives of the pilots. as well as nafig Turkish stream and other developments. by decree. so that the business cannot do anything. in the 19th century for THIS today would have begun a war with Turkey. no options. And finally, I would have adopted the American Syrian version. "We are not against dialogue with Turkey, BUT! ERDOGAN should not be there!"

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Noctis

it's good that I'm not the president ...

And I'm very happy too! We would have made porridge!

[ia-ai00]

... but it would be JUST!

[skurazhov]

Neher almond! Declare war on the Turks! Let NATO shit in his pants! We'll get over it!

[nikpwolf]

Quote: skurazhov

Neher almond! Declare war on the Turks! Let NATO shit in his pants! We'll get over it!

And you will have to fight with the whole pack. Already the Americans will hurry up, don't go to the fortune-teller. Already a couple of operational plans at the Pentagon have been procrastinating. Here's a gift then. And you will have to interrupt with your own blood. And that's what they need. Yes, we will also be declared the aggressors. And their electorate grabs it for a mile soul. The soil has long been ready. Remember the war with the "valiant" Georgians? How many of ours were killed outright? The bottom line? Russia attacked unfortunate Georgia. And made everyone chew their ties. Barbarians. You can't fight the Ottomans, but the Turkish-Syrian border, with all that it is, polish to a dead zone (and world opinion is fucking damn good), and gently grind the Kurds (they'll have some money, but a bit of weapons), and Ramzan (call him the moderate Turkish opposition) take a walk there to release. I asked. And we really have to score on everything Turkish. This, I think, is possible. So somehow.

[da n ya 1914]

Probably soon we will hang a shit, on the gates of the king of the City.

[Valter1364]

Let's remember our Falcons!

[KBR109]

If according to the mind, it would be worthwhile to supply the Kurds with weapons, incl. MANPADS. Well, and, if possible, catch a couple of Turkish heraplans over the territory of Syria.

[Junior, I]

why only over the territory of Syria? Preferred near the Syrian border!

[dosyl]

Quote: Baikonur

Unfriendly act at 9:30! seo 19:42! And where is the gap in diplomatic relations? Foreign Ministry notes? Convocation of the UN Security Council !?

Maybe, sitting on the couch, you will also declare war ?!

[onix757]

Our power will be wiped out as usual. Because at one time it was necessary not to warm the stools with Chubais, but to engage in industry. So we have at the end a blown bubble of ratings, propaganda and piaraction instead of the real power respected all over the world.

[Gardamir]

Our power will be wiped out as usual.

most likely they will take revenge on Turkey with a discount on gas.

[kergudu straight]

To level the ground, the base from which these F-16s took off, so that other Turkish pilots would first think about whether it is worth taking RUSSIAN planes into sight and what consequences it will lead to

[AlexTires]

I wonder what would happen to the Turks if they shot down an American plane like that ...
IMHO, Turkey alone would be less, and the survivors would live happily ever after, in Guantanomo ... nits ...

[Hiw]

only cold calculation and calculation of countermeasures, of course, it is not rational to declare war, but to say that we have spun a new air defense program that includes tracking and destroying all objects that are less than 300 km away from Russian aerospace aircraft located in Syria - it would be logical ... It is also necessary to increase the presence of videoconferencing on the territory of Syria and increase the support group - helicopters, S-400 complexes, shells, a contingent of rapid reaction airborne forces, and additional artillery and missile forces will not interfere. And, of course, to increase the intensity of strikes against objects of the non-intrusive business of ig. This will be a blow to the kidney from which they do not fall but cannot breathe

[Teplohod]

yes, we may not declare that, we have only already been declared by actual actions

[Alexandr2637]

We regard the actions of the Turkish Air Force as an unfriendly act.

This is a real act of war requiring an immediate response!

[Vadim237]

The answer will be a note of protest from our MIDA, and then a quick drain of the whole situation to a complete stabilization - remember the Ukrainian shelling of our border territory in 2014.

[Fonmeg]

It is known that a Turkish missile hit our plane at a time when it was one kilometer from the border of Syria with this country. The instantly flared bomber flew another three kilometers before crashing to the ground. This time, according to eyewitnesses, was enough for both crew members to safely leave the cars. But, unfortunately, it happened over an area occupied by the so-called "moderate opposition". Namely - the "Free Syrian Army" (FSA).

Well, what did these "moderates" do? On this score, so far there is only a report by the Associated Press. According to the agency, Russian pilots landed over the location of the SSA's 10th Coast Brigade. According to some reports, the militants of this brigade began from the ground, as if in a shooting range, to shoot the helpless Russian military. A certain Jahed Ahmad told The Associated Press that one of the bomber's crew was killed by this fire before landing. The second is said to have been captured.

But there is also another version of events. According to Reuters, citing "one of the military leaders of the Syrian Turkmen," his men shot both Russian officers after landing.

To mix these "moderates" with stones for the death of their comrades-in-arms is the task of the VKS! There are no good or bad terrorists. And to shoot down jackals from the adjoining side on the approach, warning them in 0,5 seconds!

[UVB]

There was such infa, I quote: "In Syria, the S-400, which is officially not there, was turned on. According to an informed source, the complex" leads "all Turkish military fighters near the border with Syria.

There has not yet been an order to shoot down, but it can come at any second, as soon as Russia considers that Turkish fighters crossed the Syrian border for 5-10 seconds, the source said.

More detailed information is not yet available, but most likely Russia really activated air defense / missile defense systems against Turkish targets in order to secure the search mission. At the moment, it can be stated that the Turkish Air Force is considered hostile, which means that any entry into the affected area will be considered an attack and Turkish aircraft will be shot down. "

[Bogranz]

As far as I understand, it is quite within reach in terms of range so that the S-400 can keep the Syrian-Turkish border under control. The only question is whether they are in Syria and whether they will decide to use them in such situations.

[AKS-U]

this is very good. and also an unmanned zone.

[arnulla]

This infa was still in the afternoon

[1536]

It would be too good to be true!
Alas, judging by the reaction of ours, judging by how calmly they talk about 10 thousand of our tourists vacationing on the beaches of Turkey, as the "experts" loftily say about the "construction business" of Turks in Russia, Turkish fruits, leather and condoms, we must wait following downed planes and helicopters. Our planes and helicopters!
There is only one way out - to change the tactics of waging war in Syria and destroy all life in this territory, where terrorists have settled, even if they are on the border with Turkey. No one will ever agree to this, and therefore all mentions of the S-300 and S-400 for the Turkish Air Force are only mentions. We have to think that it is possible to punish mad dogs, but will there be less of them?

[RuslanNN]

Quote: almamatkulov.79

Russians !!! Let's collapse tourism business in Ankara together! I have never gone to a Muslim dog, and now I will not go even more!

You are a Christian dog,. Do you know how many Muslims there are in Russia. There are jackals in any religion and you are one of them.
And Erdogan will still answer for his actions.

[V.ic]

It started means ... My opinion: to raise the A-50 for the duration of the work on ISIS (all aircraft remaining in the ranks)! EW to jam EVERYTHING on the air that would pose a potential threat. "Give a damn about the whole connection between" incirliks ​​"and other dog lovers of our" sworn friends "(the F-16 could well have been from there, and not far from the area where our Su-24 was shot down, by the way). Why not try using an EMP weapon before flying. Quite real: they depicted the pre-flight bustle, taxiing, imitation of a group takeoff, then a "carpet" and a small unmanned aerial vehicle at an altitude of 3-5 thousand meters initiates EMP. At least you can cover the takeoff of the group. Before the return of the group in 10 minutes, also detonate a couple of unmanned vehicles with EMP equipment, overlapping the zone of the fourth reversal. A dozen or two uses of such weapons will burn out all the sensitive electronics of the "sworn friends".

[Alexander 3]

This is open hostilities, although in Syria we can include anything we want. We will wait for the miracle of our diplomats.

[CadetXXX]

It's easier to drop the Iskander on them

[tinibar]

Quote: Kimblee

Unfriendly act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less "unfriendly facts" began!

But what about the saying “nothing personal, just business”? They say the words of Alphonse Capone. They took the bandit’s words for a slogan! And you?! What else can you expect from them? My reaction is a personal blockade of Turkey. I won't buy anything Turkish. As if I don’t buy Ukrainian...

[Valentine]

What about the Turkish Bosporus and Dardanelles straits? NATO will immediately block them, and the Black Sea will be banned. You can’t use the kontadka here, they’re sitting there
smart people who calculated this war five to ten years in advance, otherwise there was no point in meddling in Syria. After all, each of us, secretly from ourselves, hoped
that our pilots would be all right, but I also assumed that war is war, and not computer “shooters,” and anything can happen. And so it happened, Obama said that he sent special forces to Syria, and, most likely ,This
his work, and the transportation of Syrian oil is the topic there.... We, besides oil and gas, no longer have any pressure on our “partners”, and the use of weapons, and especially nuclear ones, is war.

[spec-80]

you don’t have complete information

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Valentine

What about the Turkish Bosporus and Dardanelles straits? NATO will immediately block them, and the Black Sea will be banned.

When you write something like this, describe how they will close it. This is not a door. Will they start hostilities against our ships? Well, that's unlikely. This is a specific NATO attack on Russia. Don't consider Europeans completely stupid. They don't want to run around the former Europe with stone axes, live in caves and goo-goo-goo like monkeys after the nuclear destruction of Europe.

[a housewife]

Why is everything only about ships in the Bosphorus? Will merchant ships fight their way out? For each passage of the vessel, documents are drawn up and payment is made. There is no need for military operations. They just won't give permission. More than 80 million tons of cargo from Novorossiysk alone, where will it go? Grain, timber, cement, etc.?

[KrasYarSib]

We flew into the sky, we don’t sit down already,
Such work and wipe the tears from the eyes,
Life ended in a fraction of a second in a bend,
You better pour the glasses and drink for us.

We ourselves have chosen such a fate
We looked at the sky and knew freely only there,
But the gods today have given us a taboo on earth,
You remember us, leave us only one hundred grams.

Do not wait back guys, our Su-24,
We will no longer sit down and the chassis is now useless
Now we will remain in heaven, apparently, quite
All our life we ​​have been striving, probably, only for that.

The earth let us go somehow too easily
We love her, only the sky is still kin to us,
It is pleasant to swim in the silence and fluff of the clouds,
From here and our beautiful land is more visible.

Ah, if you only knew how good we are here now,
Freedom is now endless and almost borderless,
Caresses us ...
from above we see so many familiar faces.

We will not return to you, we stayed here forever,
Don't worry about us, we have the sun and snow here,
We will meet you probably in a year
Well, that's it, goodbye, kisses, I love you all. Everlasting memory.

[Aleksey_K]

It’s better not to write, even if it’s about the topic and about heroism, that doesn’t matter in the form of poetry. I give you a plus, but try yourself in a different style.

[Bogranz]

Bombers near the Turkish border must be accompanied by fighter aircraft. And the response to any “unfriendly” step should be immediate. Without calling the military attache.

[65 Centurion]

The time has passed for using our sunshine on the Turkomans who shot our ejected pilots!!!

[Sea Wolf]

All capable of holding weapons. Russia will soon have a slogan. Well, we waited. They didn’t let us, they didn’t let us get stronger completely, and they fed the fifth column themselves. But the Russians have no illusions left.

[starshina pv]

Why start chatter!!! WHAT WILL BE THE ANSWER - that’s the question????

[iouris]

The first thing to do is to force the Turks to hand over the pilots as soon as possible. To do this, you can turn to your “allies” from NATO.
The second is to ensure that the Syrian army reaches the border with Turkey, where the “Turkomans” live, that is, the “moderate opposition.” And God forbid that someone shoots from the other side.

[aleks.29ru]

resume support for the Kurds. Shoot down the Turks in the skies of Syria.

[Katukov]

Abstract thought...” 95x non-RUS DRG to be thrown into that area and to work under ISIS (who can understand without insignia, without Russian speech). A Muslim battalion like in Afghanistan and tear them to shreds there, sabotage the Turks. It seems they are with GDP on leash (only long))))), at least this way they will repay the debt to RUSSIA." ????

[superpuxa]

Lavrov should have announced the immediate evacuation of our citizens in 3 days, like in Egypt, but Erdogan would have spoiled his Poles.

[zulusuluz]

These ur..s, not only do they buy oil from ISIS, but they also shoot down planes? The UN needs to put an equal sign between them.

[3axap82]

I don’t understand why people are being sarcastic in the comments!? Sarcasm also... and snot... This is a direct act of aggression against our country. If our leadership does not respond... we can consider them clowns. While it is much more difficult to destroy terrorists from whom nothing threatens one thing, it is much more difficult for a NATO member to respond to direct aggression on neutral territory.

[Homo sapiens]

There are already a ton of guys, sofa strategists and warriors, I didn’t think that I would join them myself, but... But it’s rushing from within... Yes, this is a provocation. Rude and smartest at the same time. If we remain silent, we will lose face and everything that is adjacent to it and adjacent to it. But it is categorically impossible to answer, if only because this is exactly what the “Westerners” are trying to achieve. I think Turkey needs to be “understood” and “forgiven”. Just think, our plane was shot down, a great thing - a couple of pilots... We have such good things - richly... We forgive you completely... But something is unsafe at your resorts, yes... We worry about our citizens and that’s why not one not one!!!! We won’t allow any of them, not only for summer vacations, but for any other reason, to set foot on Turkish soil for about five years... And by the way, your vegetables and fruits are very suspicious... You eat them yourself. And feed your American friends. They drove you into fornication, now let them eat your damn tomatoes themselves... And your clothes can’t come to us, there are fleas in them... And anyway, nothing is allowed... You have a lot of friends in NATO, here they are everything and steam now...
And our plane has nothing to do with it... And these Syrian Turkmen are going to hell because of the mistake of some warrant officer Obormotko.... Well, really!!! The day has almost passed, why didn’t they turn off the oxygen!!!?????

[kit-kat]

This is what it means to undercut the enemy. This always comes back to us. Let's take some more grief.

[NordUral]

The bed needs to be soft, but so that you can sleep with nightmares.

[magirus401]

I think that the attache for the “unfriendly act” should arrange a sexual

[NeRTT]

A couple of days ago, the Turks proposed to shoot down Russian planes, allegedly because they were striking Turkmen opposition forces near the borders of Turkey!!! So they did... So we need to bring them down without pity, as accomplices of Daesh (ISIS)

[gop]

Quote: Valentine

What about the Turkish Bosporus and Dardanelles straits?

there is no Turkey, there are straits and further according to plan

[epsilon571]

Nothing that the hotheads are proposing here will be implemented, absolutely nothing. Here's what Peskov says about this:

The Kremlin ruled out the possibility of a military response from Turkey

According to the press secretary of the Russian President, Vladimir Putin did not talk about any military consequences for Ankara after the emergency with the downed Su-24.

The crash of the Russian Su-24 bomber in Syria will inevitably affect bilateral Russian-Turkish relations, but there is no talk of a possible military response from the Russian Federation. This was stated today by the press secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov during a conversation with journalists.

“I would not talk, and the president did not talk about any military consequences.” We must assume that the president did not make such statements. But at the same time, he admitted the inevitability of consequences after such unfriendly actions by the Turkish side,” Peskov said.

I don’t want to comment on this answer, because this decadent tone is evident in his answer about the implementation of the Turkish Stream. Apparently the money that our government oligarchs have is more important than the prestige of their own Country. Putin called the plane incident a stab in the back, but if it is a stab in the back, will they take a stab to the forehead?

[Vadim237]

It won’t, because we hurt our heads when we fell from being hit in the back.

[Massik]

No matter how cynical it sounds, we ourselves allowed this to happen. Just don’t tell me that a Turkish Air Force plane quietly approached the fuselage of our Su-24 at a few meters and then shot it down.

[Risiana]

Burn Turkey once and for all.

[hartlend]

Quote: Kimblee

Unfriendly act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less "unfriendly facts" began!

Let's go to war with Turkey, the Saudis, the Emirates and others. And the arrogant Saxons will rub their hands. You won't wait. Our tourists will return, Putin will find a way to punish Erdogan.

[onix757]

Let our government build a state for which the name Turkey means nothing.

[nerpa]

In my opinion, in this situation, Russia should declare the territory of Syria a zone prohibited from flying any aircraft except allies (in this case, the French or another state that has joined the coalition), since, precisely, Russia is waging this fight against ISIS in accordance with all international laws. Under this label, any approach of Turkish (or other state) aircraft to the border with Syria closer than 1,5 km (or other distance specified in the decision) is considered a violation of this decision and is subject to destruction.

[Mestny]

Quote: Kimblee

Unfriendly act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less "unfriendly facts" began!

Those who organized all this - the blowing up of the power line to Crimea, and now the plane - are counting on a certain reaction from Russia. Most likely, two options await - either Russia will hit as best it can, or, on the contrary, it will wipe out.
It is obvious that the further game is designed for both of these options, the goal of which in the future is to destroy the main rival, that is, Russia in one way or another. Russia’s task, as always, is to find a non-standard, unexpected for enemies, or, if you like, asymmetric solution.
You cannot allow yourself to play by their rules, this will definitely lead to loss. There are no fools on the other side.
You need to think and make a decision that is not expected.

[oleg_kch]

Türkiye could not restrain itself and did what it had wanted for a long time. The world froze in anticipation of Russia's response. Perhaps it will be unexpected and non-standard.

[Denimax]

The Turks should have thought a hundred times before committing such an action. Such a thing is unlikely to rust, and the downing of a Turkish plane may be a matter of time. They can also get minor dirty tricks, which will result in a big problematic bouquet.)

[Zefr]

Money, brothers, money. Everything is contracted and sawn already. Turkish Stream, tour operators (well, that’s a small thing), retail chains (most likely, there are contracts for the new year)... And you want to arrange an embargo here.

[Makarov]

There are two words: pride and honor, but they have not been applicable to foreign policy for so long that it is time to act more cunningly. What did the military not know that they could shoot down a plane? They knew. But the fact that there is no clear plan for such a scenario surprises me...the generals or traitors or drank away their last brains...

[March]

Agree!! Turkey should be crushed to pieces for our SU-24! BUT!!! Have you, dear friends, forgotten where our tourists now warm their bellies? Until we take them out, we won’t touch the Turks.
I always had a prejudice about Turkey! No matter how many times I was invited to go there to relax, I never went.

[onix757]

But smart people said, Vladimir, solve the problems with Ukraine fundamentally, double the potential, and then go much further. But there is no sense in either, just losses.

[Naval]

We must treat our enemies as enemies, and not build them a nuclear power plant using Russian money, give them discounts on gas and supply them with electricity. There is no point in supporting the Turkish economy with the flow of our tourists...
There is a good rule, don’t expose yourself and you won’t get hit in the back.

[Dewy]

“I would not talk, and the president did not talk about any military consequences.” We must assume that the president did not make such statements. But at the same time, he admitted the inevitability of consequences after such unfriendly actions by the Turkish side,” Peskov said.
Clever words from a literate person, a thinking person, a person who is friends not only with the HEAD but also with the soul and heart = THE ANSWER WILL BE ONLY A LITTLE LATER AND ACCORDINGLY))))

[Benya krik]

Quote: “As TASS clarifies, Lavrov canceled his visit to Turkey, scheduled for November 25. “A decision was made to cancel the meeting that was planned for tomorrow in Istanbul at the level of the foreign ministers of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Turkey,” Lavrov said journalists."... Their ambassador must also be expelled from the country within twenty-four hours and the Bosphorus must be taken under control.

[Awaz]

let’s say that Russia will definitely not declare war on Turkey, their planes will not be shot down, that’s for sure. There have been many similar unpleasant moments in the world, but in any case they were resolved. It’s sad that our pilots most likely died .... they died not so much from the shelling of the plane, but from the hands of those supported by Turkey and the United States. Unfortunately, Russia does not have the strength and means to take symmetrical revenge in a clear and understandable way, but something needs to be done. We should have stopped playing diplomacy a long time ago and acted only based on our own interests. We have known for a long time the conclusions that the authorities are trying to foist on us right now, without even having a complete picture of the events and without having all the information. Either we have the authorities or they are already playing with diplomacy. In any case, Russia has only one lever of pressure on the Turks: tourists. You see... it's you and me, the ones who go to these barbarians and spend money with them. In principle, it turns out that we and only we can somehow crush these crazy descendants of the Ottomans. The authorities have no business here at all.
But the most important question is why there was only one plane, where were the covering fighters. It seems like they always seem to always accompany the bombers? .

[fkmdtn62]

So that Erdogan, his gang and these goat Turkish pilots can eat pig ears and tails. For the rest of their disgusting lives. Yes, even as a snack with lard.

[pilot bin-bom]

AWACS to the Syrian base urgently! Today!

[KrasYarSib]

You forgot, we will find and punish!

[radar1967]

This is a job for Kadyrov. This is his exam. For everything that Russia has done for him, he is obliged to implement, find, and punish those responsible for the death of Russian pilots. It’s time for Kadyrov to grow up and stop being a national leader. It's time to become a leader on an all-Russian scale.
And it is precisely this incident that can seriously raise him in the eyes of the Russian people...

[Dewy]

I have a question - damn it’s in the wrong place and at the wrong time (((BUT!!!!
I watched the program with Solovyov for an hour and everyone is condemning ----INTERESTING, WHERE IS THE RUSSIAN OPPOSITION??????????????
Did she ---- MISS PUTIN'S PLANE DOWNED???????????????????????
WHERE IS THE OPPOSITION???????
R.S. afraid yes????

[lecturer]

That’s when I hear the word “Turks” and immediately remember their brothels in Istanbul... when we entered the seaport... So, Turkey! now forever - there is a prostitute!

[Polite Moose]

Yes, they dealt us a mean blow. Those who were least expected. After all, everything seemed to be covered in chocolate. Tourism, trade, joint construction. We were even going to give them gas eggs, by which Europe could be pulled periodically. No, they sacrificed everything. In my opinion, it was an extremely stupid step to shoot down our plane.
Now we can’t answer the Turks, it means losing face in front of the whole world. And the “tops” understand this very well. And the answer, I believe, will be in the near future. But it’s not a fact that he’s a military man. It's easy to go to war. It's hard to get out. And there are still plenty of our tourists there. When hostilities begin, they become hostages. Therefore, I do not agree with the opinion of some forum members about immediate strikes on Turkey. The consequences are difficult to predict. You can hit hard not only with missiles, but also with finances. Stop tourism in Turkey, the purchase of Turkish consumer goods, fruits and vegetables and other crap. Screw the Turkish Stream, calculate Turkey's economic losses and convey them through the media to the Turkish public. Let Erdogan then explain to voters how he is boosting the country’s economy. Find environmental violations at construction sites carried out by Turkish companies and take away their licenses to work in the Russian Federation. Remember and in every possible way support the disadvantaged Greeks and oppressed Kurds. Step up efforts in Syria, especially near their borders, and don’t turn your back on these things anymore.

[isker]

The only acceptable explanation for the lack of opposition to Turkey from Russia is more time to think about the most “heavy” retaliatory strike!

[antipendos]

I just found out this news and my heart started pounding, and I swore so much that I woke up everyone at home, they are rotten, we need to punish these creatures, because they’ve been bleeding us all our lives!

[vitaliy.rnd]

Cover the entire territory over which our plane was shot down with "Calibers", Carcasses, Swans.... Everything that is available. Don't leave a single oil trough and a single terrorist behind. There are no moderates there and never were. Burn everything. And it will be fair.

[BaLaLaykin]

Quote: sssla

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A complete madhouse - right now, new notes of protest, speeches will be written - that's all the preparation.

As smart as a vutka and why poor ???

I put +, but it came out minus

[Awaz]

and the most important thing I forgot in my post above is which. Russia should, at least quietly through third parties, supply good systems to counter the Turkish Air Force for the Kurds and “pump up” Syria’s air defense as much as possible

[spec-80]

now all the troops of the whole earth are on alert. tension. who is for whom. rehearsal. all masks are torn off. intentions are revealed. I finish 3 liters of beer. pity the pilots and their families. pity the man who gave the order to launch the rocket. everything will work out. don't panic.