The Turkish military attache was summoned to the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation, and the deputy speaker of the Italian Senate accused Turkey of joining the war on the side of ISIS

Press Service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation spreads the message that the military attache of Turkey was called to the country's main defense department in connection with a strike by the Turkish Air Force on a Russian plane that participated in counter-terrorism activities in Syria. From the message of the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Russia:

Today at 9:30 a Russian plane, performing combat missions to combat terrorism, was shot down by a Turkish air force. The Russian plane did not cross the Turkish border and acted solely on objects in Syria. Fighting Russian aviation were fought against illegal terrorist groups, which include a large number of militants from the North Caucasus of Russia.

Attempts by specialists from the Russian Ministry of Defense to organize interaction with the Turkish side in the emergency communication line were unsuccessful.

The following is a very mild statement for the status of the defense department:

We consider the actions of the Turkish Air Force as unfriendly act.

The wording softer in this situation is extremely difficult to come up with ...

The Ministry of Defense continues:

Currently, the Russian Ministry of Defense is developing a set of measures to respond to such incidents.
The fighting against terrorists in Syria will continue.

Today striking a Russian plane is one of the main topics for discussion in different countries. For example, in Italy, the Deputy Chairman of the Senate, Roberto Calderoli, commenting on what happened, called Turkey "the Trojan horse of the radical Islamists, which they use to shoot at the West." According to Roberto Calderoli, Turkey today officially entered the war on the side of ISIS.

Comments

[Kimblee]

Unfriendly Act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less unfriendly facts have begun!

[Baikonur]

Unfriendly Act?!?!?!

The same thing, that you are being shot in the forehead, but you say - this is some kind of unfriendly act! Turn around and leave with a bullet in your head, like - "I'll think about it! How to proceed? I don't know!"
In nature, there’s nothing left to think!

Attempts by specialists from the Russian Ministry of Defense to organize interaction with the Turkish side in the emergency communication line were unsuccessful.

Here are the bastards! Sneaky knife hit in the back and in the bushes!

[Sterlya]

Creatures Turks, because of cheap oil is that? I think here is not only oil. Yes, and the mattresses rather tried, stopudovo

[sever.56]

http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/239/icqc576.png

Evgeny Satanovsky today at Soloviev ...
I would add: - expand the Bosphorus
so that it becomes the Bosphorus ... !!!

[Baikonur]

Unfriendly act in 9: 30! now 19: 42! And where is the gap in diplomatic relations? Foreign Ministry notes? Convocation of the UN Security Council !?

[Koshak]

Quote: Baikonur

Unfriendly act in 9: 30! now 19: 42! And where is the gap in diplomatic relations? Foreign Ministry notes? Convocation of the UN Security Council !?

And where is the open airfield from which that F-16 took off?

[PQ-18]

And where is the open airfield from which that F-16 took off?

Why so rude and primitive?
you can calmly and quietly hunt for Turkish aircraft approaching the Syrian border "from the ground" ... and their debris will be GUARANTEED to fall on Syrian territory!
(true, in the beginning, you need to clean up the territory adjacent to the border)

[Tatyana]

From the text of the article

Turkey today officially entered the war on the side of ISIS.

This is to be expected personally from Erdogan himself - a political adventurer and businessman.
Erdogan has his own oil raider business (they already wrote about this) - he, in fact, raids (robs) for himself personally in his pocket, and for Turkey, too, oil in Syria with the help of ISIS paramilitary units. Russia, with its Turkish stream, could not have Erdogan reimbursed his raider excess profits from his commercial oil business. Therefore, negotiations between Turkey and the Russian Federation ended unsuccessfully. Moreover, the struggle of Syria and Russia against ISIS is a struggle against the raider business of Erdogan himself. (In fact, Erdogan is a high-ranking raider bandit.)More classics said that there is no such crime that the capitalist would not commit for the sake of his superprofits. Therefore, Erdogan, having bitten a bit, openly got involved with Russia in the war for his business, using the Turkish Armed Forces for personal purposes. And the Americans will look at all this on the principle of “My hut from the edge - I don’t know anything!” And rub their handles with pleasure. Their war between Turkey and Russia is quite satisfied. Erdogan will lose everything.
Oil prices in the world market will rise. And Europe, the Italians as well, will pay for it and for the new refugees.

[krot]

Well, the campaign begins the predicted third world !? Or will it only cost the destruction of Turkey?

[vsoltan]

krot

Yes, it began, with 30, September ... You overslept ...

[vsoltan]

Dumb ... forum users, do not you understand? They threw some cons ... a dog with them, but meanwhile, the third world is already coming ...

[Charik]

Armageddon - a war that will begin soon. Prophecies of the Elder Paisius the Holy Mountaineer

[Mahmut]

Armageddon - a war that will begin soon. Prophecies of the Elder Paisius the Holy Mountaineer,

Erdogandon is a war that has already begun. Prophecies Strelkova.

[Allitet]

Erdogan is a bastard, so crap, and we believed him!

[Valiich]

I think Russia is giving everything right! Competently, clearly, without unnecessary emotion. It will not come to military action. And Erdogan, as you rightly noted, "bit the bit" he really is a "horse" only not a Trojan horse, but a pedal one. With such a policy that he is pursuing, he was really preparing or is preparing a strike against the west with his help. Putin said at the UN Assembly "... they are also not fools and it is not known who is using whom", Erdogan is used by the US and NATO and ISIS, such a multi-layered reusable pedagogue in the end. The United States is happy with everything that is bad for Russia. Turks are like cannon fodder for them, even now with a smell.

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: PQ-18

you can quietly and quietly hunt for Turkish aircraft

we must totally fight the Turks, put pressure both economically and with the support of the Kurds, meet their leaders in Moscow as representatives of the liberation movement, in short, everything the same thing that they did against Russia, hiding the “Czechs”.

[Orionvit]

It is time to unfurl the banners of Suvorov and General Skobelev. The Turks apparently completely forgot that they always raked from Russia. Absolutely fear lost. Critters.

[goose]

Quote: Orionvit

The Turks apparently completely forgot that they always raked from Russia. Absolutely fear lost. Critters.

they didn’t forget, it’s just that since that time there have been 3 times more Turks and less Russians.

[Down House]

Quote: goose

it’s just that since then, there have been 3 times more Turks, and less Russians.

Have you gathered melee, or will we still take into account the firepower of modern armies?

[iliitchitch]

Quote: PQ-18

Why so rude and primitive?
you can calmly and quietly hunt for Turkish aircraft approaching the Syrian border "from the ground" ... and their debris will be GUARANTEED to fall on Syrian territory!
(true, in the beginning, you need to clean up the territory adjacent to the border)

I agree with you. They expect immediate sharp movements from us. Before throwing axes, tourists should be pulled out from there, only then the ambassador’s response, to turn off ANY cooperation, but for now to hammer the oil refineries and caravans of bogeyers. These tchurki specifically planted a bullet in their liver, they flew every Fifteenth fleet to them, but not tomorrow morning. And what will happen to their economy ... Another mongrel will be, which no one at point blank sees.

[Good me]

Quote: PQ-18

Why so rude and primitive?

Indeed, let’s answer intelligently and liberally on a plane shot down ABOVE THE SYRIAN TERRITORY, ALREADY CONFIRMED BY one of the pilots, the unclear fate of the second, hit by fire from the ground, and subsequently destroyed by mortar fire of terrorists during an unsuccessful attempt to conduct a search and rescue operation DESTRUCTION of our marine ...

Is it BLACK DAY, today for our operation in Syria, for which someone should answer in full?

And including from our side, those who planned and conducted the search and rescue operation, and sending no less armored Mi 24 to the active combat zone, albeit phenomenally tenacious, but pierced through from the Mi-8 small arms ...

[_Vladislav_]

once again convinced - Shary fumbles.

[Drmadfisher]

to all the armies of the armies, "VOLNO, DISSOLVE", without you they will figure it out

[Spectator]

Quote: PQ-18

and their wreckage will be GUARANTEED to fall on Syrian territory!
(true, in the beginning, you need to clean up the territory adjacent to the border)

At the same time, move the border towards Ankara so that all take-off planes immediately fall into Syrian airspace and are subject to destruction))

[ancient]

Quote: Koshak

And where is the open airfield from which that F-16 took off?

And there still Amer’s Needles are now based .. something else is necessary ... like Satanovsky suggests.
But our that ... "not a friendly act" ... "MEASURES ARE DEVELOPED now" ..... alo garage ... don't get used to the fact that this is no longer AVIADARTS and "show-off at the SHOW" ????

[kadochnikov]

What are you talking about? The Yeltsin business center is opening in Yekaterinburg, and the president, together with the prime minister and the daughter of the first president, are going to open it. With all due respect to them all, but in a situation essentially an act of military aggression, this is absolutely not a relevant event worthy of the attention of the country's top leadership.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: kadochnikov

With all due respect to them all, but in a situation essentially an act of military aggression, this is absolutely not a relevant event worthy of the attention of the country's top leadership.

I would say that this is an event worthy of attention only to the families of the Alcoholic of All Russia, Chubais and a dozen of half-dead Chubais. Well, also "Yehu Moskvy" - information support.

[Oprychnik]

Yes. A trifle. 7 billion for this business.

[Lera Tagan]

Why is this subhuman still not doused with paint slops !!!

[regsSSSR]

kadochnikov
What are you talking about? Yekaterinburg opens a business center named after Yeltsin and

as said Boris Rozhin (Colonel Cassad) commenting on this event
“This is what a museum looks like in which I will never go myself and bring my relatives.” Is that only if it burns.

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2488750.html#comments

you can’t say better!

[Roman13]

Near the monument, the sculptors forgot to place a couple of bottles of vodka.

[anderles66]

Yes, and open a wine and vodka store there :) And the sculpture had to be like this: as he conducted the German orchestra.

[avtotekhnik]

He still lacks a "bubble" in his hands)))

[Soviet Union]

Quote: kadochnikov

Yeltsin business center

you can fuck ... business center named after Beni drunk ... no words ...

[vsoltan]

Yes, just another rudeness of power ..

[Constructor1]

We survived, they erect monuments to the state traitors and open centers ..
Nobody has done as much harm to Russia as the humpback and Yeltsin. And he looked at the news and immediately understood everything - who built it? showed an interview with a representative of an American developer company !!! Well, then everything became clear, as much was stolen and taken out during the struggle, for a "small" part of what was stolen, they built it all

[Oleg56.ru]

What is the life of two pilots compared to such an "important" fucking event.

[Sterlya]

Quote: Oleg56.ru

What is the life of two pilots compared to such an "important" fucking event.

I thought they would soon dig up to drive an aspen stake into the coffin ...

[Roman13]

But how can you call something by the name of this old alcoholic, in which Russia was just a laughing stock. My name E.B.N will always be associated only with the 90s, years of devastation, the decline of the army and the decline of the morale of our nation.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Baikonur

Unfriendly act in 9: 30! now 19: 42! And where is the gap in diplomatic relations? Foreign Ministry notes? Convocation of the UN Security Council !?

Take your time to unleash a formal war when you can do no less harm without declaring war. The Turks have something to lose, which means there is a weak spot and not one. Military assistance to Kurdish rebels, for example, is not a declaration of war. The Americans are so constantly acting against Russia.

[Mama_Cholli]

Quote: Алексей_К

Quote: Baikonur

Unfriendly act in 9: 30! now 19: 42! And where is the gap in diplomatic relations? Foreign Ministry notes? Convocation of the UN Security Council !?

Take your time to unleash a formal war when you can do no less harm without declaring war. The Turks have something to lose, which means there is a weak spot and not one. Military assistance to Kurdish rebels, for example, is not a declaration of war. The Americans are so constantly acting against Russia.

Alex, yes enough to reassure ... all the more not knowing the topic!

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Mama_Cholli

Alex, yes enough to reassure ... all the more not knowing the topic!

I am not reassuring anyone. Simply, Russia will solve all these issues diplomatically and from the UN rostrum. But this is a long story. No one in Russia will declare war on Turkey. But to harm Turkey and show that it will lose more than its planes, that it can’t see gas either Russian or Azerbaijani. That electronic warfare systems will completely make their air defense systems blind. Tourism has already begun to wither, well, who wants to be in a Turkish concentration camp. Syrian oil or from other countries through oil pipelines they also can not see. Russia will begin to help Kurds even more. There are many non-diplomatic methods of punishing Turkey. Armenia, for example, dreams of revenge on the Turks, etc.
And the second thing. What does "even more so without knowing the topic" mean? Are you on the Syrian front or do you work in the Russian Foreign Ministry? Or maybe you are our scout, who is always in the subject?

[Platonich]

Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye! Great Comment +++++

[ordinary]

Alexey .. Respect for the correct and balanced position

[Mama_Cholli]

Alexei, in six months we’ll look at the Gazprom pipe, then we’ll draw conclusions. So far, all you have said is your personal subjective opinion. Although I really want you to be right.

And whoever dreams of something, such as revenge, is their own business. In any case, dreaming is not harmful, but there is little sense in it.

For example, I think that all of yesterday’s statements by our Moscow Defense Forces are an empty concussion. For example: An attack on any aircraft (including a Turkish one) that flies across the Syrian border will automatically be regarded as an attack on a NATO bloc, with all the consequences ... In order to throw such words, you must first obtain consent (official) from the Syrian authorities on closing the state’s borders for the flight of foreign aircraft belonging to the coalition (except for Russian ones). Only in this case would we have the opportunity to attack Turkish aircraft over Syrian territory. It used to be scratched.
But the Turks shot down our plane even over the territory of another country, so what? But there was nothing and will never be.
Sponsorship of the Kurds by Russia will be regarded worldwide as sponsorship of terrorists, with all the ensuing consequences. You must understand the policy of double standards in the modern world.
What other suggestions will you have on the case?

[Down House]

Quote: Mama_Cholli

Sponsorship of the Kurds by Russia will be regarded worldwide as sponsorship of terrorists, with all the ensuing consequences. You must understand the policy of double standards in the modern world.

We understand!
And the only way to fight this "policy" is to simply ignore these very "second standards"!

[Serhio]

Well, why? Regarding the support of the Kurds, Alexei absolutely correctly says that it can be very painful to punish Turkey. Up to depriving part of the territory. Plus it would be nice to seek recognition of the Armenian genocide through the UN. With material compensation. For example, the genocide of Jews by Germany.

[SOKOL777]

Quote: Алексей_К

Military assistance to Kurdish rebels

You are thinking in the right direction.
Only ours needs to do everything silently, not to PR in the media, everyone will understand everything.
It would be nice if Assad would agree with the Kurds on the creation of autonomy on the territory of Syria (an official statement is needed).
There, Turkish Kurds will catch up ...

TURKEY HAS SIGNED A SENTENCE TO HIMSELF! This is the case when easy money from oil muddied the mind.

It’s quite hard for us now.
But the "Turkish stream" must be abandoned. The Turks will create more transit problems than Ukraine.

As for the counter-aircraft, it is necessary to take. And no indulgences to anyone.

We all need to learn the main thing.
The war in the Middle East is flaring up, and we are its participants.

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

Turkey should not be on the map ....

[JAJAJA]

It will be soon!
in your life!

[andrew42]

The main thing is silently.

[avdkrd]

Quote: Алексей_К

Take your time to unleash a formal war when you can do no less harm without declaring war. The Turks have something to lose, which means there is a weak spot and not one. Military assistance to Kurdish rebels, for example, is not a declaration of war. The Americans are so constantly acting against Russia.

War is an inconvenient and expensive thing, but there are times when war is better ... The organizers of the provocation are counting on a relatively mild reaction. The purpose of the provocation is to show the military failure of Russia. The expectation is that Russia will wipe out and whine at the UN Security Council.
It is unlikely that the Turks are the brain center of this provocation - in the event of even purely economic retaliatory actions, Turkey will return to the 80s of the twentieth century. Our dependence on Turkey is one-sided. China will gladly fill the niche for consumer goods, cheap ceramic tiles and furniture, for fruits and vegetables, and so there is a queue. Turkish companies are guaranteed to be thrown out of the Russian market, a hunt will be announced for Turkish capital in the construction sector (for which there is always). With the shutdown of the Blue Stream, Turkey will lose its competitiveness in all energy-intensive industries - the production of porcelain stoneware, plywood, construction fittings, sanitary ware. The situation for Russia is really difficult, the idea of ​​the organizers almost succeeded, with a few exceptions - no one knows what Putin will do after the Russians are evacuated. I would bet that one way or another there will be a military response, because in this case it will be possible to maintain economic ties.

[Down House]

Quote: avdkrd

The organizers of the provocation are just counting on a relatively mild reaction.

Not a fact.

Quote: avdkrd

The purpose of the provocation is to show the insolvency of Russia militarily.

Consistency has already been shown by striking strikes beyond the "distant lands".

[anderles66]

I agree with you one hundred percent and even more. Firstly, you should not behave like a bazaar aunt, that is, scream at the whole bazaar. I think that the greatest respect and result will cause a cold-blooded, consistent movement to the full actual surrender of the enemy. Secondly, it seems to me that it should be borne in mind that in the event of an official declaration of war, about 10 thousand of our citizens become hostages without the possibility of their evacuation, and the straits to the Sea of ​​Sredema are closed according to a treaty a hundred and a half years ago. I agree that Turkey has a lot of pain points and weaknesses. Some of them are purely geographically along the entire border (and inside) - Armenians, Kurds, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Cyprus. Oil traffic is a critical factor. Well, etc.

[44 World]

it's time for the Kadyrovites to leave for the place, they know their job !!!

[SOKOL777]

Quote: 44World

time to Kadyrovtsy

I would save our guys.
My instinct tells me that soon they will be very needed in our Caucasus.
However, I could be wrong ...

[1976AG]

But the Turks must answer first.

[Major Yurik]

For a long time and colorfully painted "partners" about the red lines, for which it is impossible to go, but Bish Bashibuzuk Erdogan turned out to be color blind, well, he does not see the red line and generally does not see the edges. The way out, unfortunately, is only one surgical operation on the eye, preferably with a fatal outcome! The coverage area of ​​the borders with chunks of dense electronic warfare, plus, as the Yankees do, covered the plane with sonar detection - get a missile into the bochin! Good luck to our flyers, hold on, brother, LET'S LIVE !!!!!

[Yarik]

In-in, a symmetric-asymmetric answer. Shoot down Turkish airplanes approaching the range of destruction of air defense systems And the complexes themselves to poke Syria along the borders That's where the opa will be. Imagined themselves the Ottoman Empire of the 16th century? Nihua has never been so.

[PQ-18]

I would add: - expand the Bosphorus
so that it becomes the Bosphorus ... !!!

Why in vain stir up the Mediterranean water?
can help:
1. Cypriots return North
2. Syria to return the northern territories occupied by the Turks
3. Kurds give autonomy ...
4. Greeks - several islands
5. to the Armenians -ARARAT! (someone ALREADY suggested before me)

[Karayakupovo]

I love Pikul (and even more than our Supreme Commander) very much and I agree with you on everything!

[_Vladislav_]

From the reaction of the international community, especially the NATO countries - to the downed Russian plane, only one thing is visible - GLOBALLY COUGH.

And not in vain. Still to come.

[krot]

Quote: _Vladislav_

From the reaction of the international community, especially the NATO countries - to the downed Russian plane, only one thing is visible - GLOBALLY COUGH.

So far, it's too early to talk about it! The meeting is ahead of them .. Then we'll see! But overall they are afraid ..

[SOKOL777]

Quote: _Vladislav_

From the reaction of the international community, especially NATO countries

Turkey has already responded to NATO, they say sort it out yourself, we’re not at work ...
This is a very important point. We still remember seeing Europe in 1945.

Neither NATO nor the United States will venture into a military confrontation with Russia.
There are still common minds who understand that Russia has a fatal pill prepared for such "partners".

But the war in the Middle East is just beginning.
Turkey is not a reliable partner and has never been.

And we need to draw the right conclusions:
-You can’t fly without escort fighters;
-soak everyone who is trying to attack (make a statement about this around the world);
-The border of Syria and Turkey must be closed;
-the cruiser "Moskva" must approach the territorial borders of Turkey and be ready;
- urgently means of electronic warfare to those regions (where the "Khibiny", why did they leave at home, gathered for a walk?).

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: PQ-18

5. to the Armenians -ARARAT! (someone ALREADY suggested before me)

All my life I was perplexed about injustice - "Ararat" brandy is Armenian, "Ararat" football team is in Yerevan, and Mount Ararat is in Turkey ...

The territory on which Ararat is located has passed from the Armenian SSR (formed on November 29 of the 1920 of the year) to Turkey under the Moscow and Kars Treaties of the 1921 of the year. According to legend, in response to the protest of the Turkish government against the fact that, on the emblem of the Armenian SSR, Ararat is depicted, which is not part of Armenia, the People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs Chicherin replied: “The crescent moon is depicted on the flag of Turkey, but the Moon is not part of Turkey”

Maybe it's like the situation with Krum and Nikita? I think the Armenians will not be against it if we provide them with "all possible assistance" ...

[Yeraz]

Quote: Zoldat_A

I think the Armenians will not be against it if we provide them with "all possible assistance" ...

And with the Kurds, what to do ?? In those lands, not the Turks, but the Kurds live, who periodically blow up the Turkish security forces. And there are more Kurds than Armenians in Armenia itself several times)))

[andj61]

Quote: Yeraz

Quote: Zoldat_A

I think the Armenians will not be against it if we provide them with "all possible assistance" ...

And with the Kurds, what to do ?? In those lands, not the Turks, but the Kurds live, who periodically blow up the Turkish security forces. And there are more Kurds than Armenians in Armenia itself several times)))

So at one time the Kurds were resettled there, that is, on the historical territory of Armenia, and the Turks occupied their place in Anatolia near the border with Iraq. It is to ensure that there are no continuous zones of compact settlement of Kurds in the center of the country. Kurds will be happy to return to their homeland.

[Yeraz]

Quote: andj61

Kurds will be happy to return to their homeland.

Can you tell the Kurds about this ?? I imagine how the Kurds from Dyarbakir, the center of maximum Kurdish nationalism and hatred of the Turks, will gladly leave Diyarbakir and give it to the Armenians)))
Kurds 10-12mln. Armenians in Armenia 3.5mln. Therefore, let's not discuss nonsense)) Armenians barely keep all world Armenians and with the help of Russia, and you mean Kurds with huge territories))) Kurds consider these lands Kurdistan and blow up Turks , not due to the fact that they are not allowed to leave these lands and be transformed into anatolia, but just the opposite)

[Butchcassidy]

Have you heard something about the Armenian-Kurdish conflict?
I personally do not. only about the Armenian-Turkish.

[andrew42]

They will not oppose it, but it is unlikely that trade shops in Russia will be exchanged for trenches near Ararat. Ancient Tigranes and Ashots - in the distant past, unfortunately.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: PQ-18

1. Cypriots return North
2. Syria to return the northern territories occupied by the Turks
3. Kurds give autonomy ...
4. Greeks - several islands
5. to the Armenians -ARARAT! (someone ALREADY suggested before me)

6. To join Constantopol to Russia,
7. The European part of Turkey to divide between Greece and Bulgaria. At the same time, the Bulgarian part should be transferred to the Bulgarians together with the Russian military base.
8. The resort part of Turkey to unite in the Trojan kingdom.

The list can be continued. This is for s / I who want to let off steam.
In fact, our military has already done everything. As I understand it, in violation of agreements with the sashniks, we activated air defense systems with a range of ... km, and announced that contacts with the Turks through military channels had been terminated ...

We are waiting for the takeoff of Turkish aircraft ...
And, I hope, now ours will fly over the territory of Turkey not for long, not deeply, but regularly.

[Turkir]

1. Cypriots return North
2. Syria to return the northern territories occupied by the Turks
3. Kurds give autonomy ...
4. Greeks - several islands
5. to the Armenians -ARARAT! (someone ALREADY suggested before me)

6. Georgians - the territory of Lazika - the Black Sea coast to Sinop.

[Butchcassidy]

There is not only the question of Ararat. Kars, Trabzon and Ardagan are at least. If we take the Sevres Peace Treaty, the guarantor of which of which is the USA as well, then there should be a lot of things for Armenia to depart to other countries.

[Sorokin]

I was glad about the Armenians, I stood in Yeghegnadzor. There are a lot of things to be given.

[JAJAJA]

"The Turks will be destroyed and erased from the map forever, because it is a country that does not have God's blessing."

“Turkey will be divided into three to four parts.”

“Time is already counting down.”

“We (Greeks) will take our lands (link: Byzantine legacy), Armenians - our territories (link by topics: US intelligence report: Armenian people require land from Turkey), Kurds - their lands (link: Turkey: history Kurdish issue). ”

“The Kurdish problem is on its way.”

“It will come true not now, but very soon.”

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: sever.56

Evgeny Satanovsky today at Solovyov ..

I didn’t specifically look for it, but the thought for the day was more than once — to listen to what Satanovsky would say about it. I’ll definitely look in the evening. As Solovyov once said about him, "his awareness scares." And multiplied by healthy cold cynicism makes him an awesome analyst.

[tol100v]

Quote: Zoldat_A

"his awareness scares."

So he knows what he is talking about, but cynicism about the "partners" is very much by the way!

[arnulla]

Only, unfortunately, there are no such people in power.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: arnulla

Only, unfortunately, there are no such people in power.

He does not need power, but an expert or adviser to the government.

Once I heard for a long time that a good boss does not need to be seven spans in his forehead - you need to have seven sensible deputies - each with one span ... There are seven such as Satanovsky, and let them think. And power is what power is to analyze proposals and make a decision ...

[arnulla]

Well, I basically meant it. Maybe he didn’t put it quite right

[Chikua]

only tourists need to be evacuated ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Chikua

only tourists need to be evacuated ...

And deep mission. Already pickets at our embassies throughout Turkey.

[papas-57]

'' Evgeny Satanovsky: I would add: - to expand the Bosphorus so that it becomes the Bosphorus Sea ... !!! ''. The same thought came up. When I read the comments, I realized that I was late.

[Good me]

Quote: papas-57

'' Evgeny Satanovsky: I would add: - to expand the Bosphorus so that it becomes the Bosphorus Sea ... !!! ''. The same thought came up. When I read the comments, I realized that I was late.

Do not worry, in STROYOTRYAD, there is a chance to enter ...

[Persistent]

I never rested in Turkey ... THEREFORE, I can safely say I did not feed this insignificant bunch of idiots and bastards from my wallet .....

[andj61]

Quote: Persistent

I never rested in Turkey ... THEREFORE, I can safely say I did not feed this insignificant bunch of idiots and bastards from my wallet .....

I was once in 2009. In order to warm the belly - it’s completely nothing. But it bothers me on the third day, but there's really nothing to see there. It is simply impossible to compare with Crete, Cyprus and Spain! And this year he was in the Krasnodar Territory, in Olginka. I went there by car with my family - and did not regret it at all. We traveled all over the coast, and even drove back to historical places on the way back - I really liked it. Next year we plan to go to the Crimea: there were acquaintances, very advised. There really is something to see.
But the Turks must be punished - it is imperative to support the Kurds, deploy an air defense system (though Syria has not been flown for a long time), start seriously ironing those who were involved in the deaths of our people, and support Armenia at the highest level in the effort to recognize the Armenian Genocide early 20th century. Come up with something else ...
And to think how to respond to the new dirty tricks of the Turks - since they are so insolent, they can close the straits for us ...

[Sterlya]

Quote: andj61

And to think how to respond to the new dirty tricks of the Turks - since they are so insolent, they can close the straits for us ...

Close, and then what? I can’t imagine it yet

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

then precisely expand the straits ........ missiles ....

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

me too .... the cruise missile for erdogan is ready ...

[Yuyuka]

it shouldn’t be otherwise - as soon as the pilots are taken out alive or dead, the entire border zone must undergo sterilization!

[saturn55]

very right

[Drmadfisher]

and a shield on the gates of Tsaregrad (warriors of Prince Oleg nailed a shield)

[ivan48857]

Plus Satanovsky!

[Butchcassidy]

Armageddonitch will not advise bad!

PS The kingdom of heaven to the dead, and to the survivors - a speedy return home!

[Roman13]

Turkey has become a Trojan horse for NATO, and in this case a Trojan donkey.

[BEGA2015]

IMPORTANT!
Today, German mass media reported that two journalists were arrested in Turkey.
Erdogan himself has been charged with STATE CHANGE!
The indictment is that these two journalists published an article on the supply of arms and ammunition from Turkey to Islamic State terrorists under the control and direct support of Turkish specials. services.
Erdogan- THE LAST BATTERY AND THE CRIMINAL!
With such a creature no negotiations can be conducted, he will understand only the language of power!

[aktanir]

the main thing!!! and what did the Turks achieve by knocking out our plane ?? what goal did they achieve ?? Mlyn, now they don’t get a single free Syrian oil at all, Assad, in principle, nobody will remove and change! and the whole pack that was fed at the borders, as the Syrian military’s offensive progresses, will have to be squeezed into itself.

[saygon66]

- They "poked a stick at an unfamiliar animal" ... And they will follow the reaction! And their further actions will depend on what arrives in response. If they get it in the belly, they will apologize "and we are cho? We are nicho ..." They will apologize, by the way, that they are in no hurry!

[GSH-18]

Quote: aktanir

the main thing!!! and what did the Turks achieve by knocking out our plane ?? what goal did they achieve ??

They performed someone else's task. Their interest is not here.
This is indicated by the fact that immediately after the incident they ran into the field, advised ... Instead of (if it was a real force majeure) to call Moscow and explain. Who is the customer? Guess for yourself.

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

They performed someone else's task. Their interest is not here.
This is indicated by the fact that immediately after the incident they ran into the field, advised ... Instead of (if it was a real force majeure) to call Moscow and explain. Who is the customer? Guess for yourself.

But now Washington and Brussels are rejecting Erdogan, saying that this is his personal initiative. The geek is being drained.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

But now Washington and Brussels are rejecting Erdogan, saying that this is his personal initiative. The geek is being drained.

Pure kidnak and setup from the arrogant Saxons. They wash their hands.

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

Pure kidnak and setup from the arrogant Saxons. They wash their hands.

Now it's up to us to refresh the memory of the Turks. But first, take out the tourists and the deep mission.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: GSH-18

Pure kidnak and setup from the arrogant Saxons. They wash their hands.

Now it's up to us to refresh the memory of the Turks. But first, take out the tourists and the deep mission.

This country is NATO. Here you have to beat carefully, but hard. That is, you need to calculate everything exactly. And such things are not done with kondochka. But the fact that the Turks will answer for our pilots and the plane with interest, I have no doubt for a second!
At least to shoot down F-15s with our air defense systems over Syria (Shell, Tor), where they often go to bombard the Kurds! Xen what they prove! Then we will wash our hands.
I think, for a start, you can shoot down the entire attacking Turkish air group entirely, so that without witnesses, watch out for the "Pantsir" from behind a hillock - it will be fine!

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

But the fact that the Turks will answer for our pilots and the plane with interest, I have no doubt for a second!

The Moscow cruiser received an introductory stoke and shoot down everything that would pose a threat. Our bombers will now carry out tasks accompanied by fighters. Rutskoi declared.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

The Moscow cruiser received an introductory stoke and shoot down everything that would pose a threat. Our bombers will now carry out tasks accompanied by fighters. Rutskoi declared.

What about the French pilots from an aircraft carrier now? .. They may accidentally fall under the Forts' pvsh fire ... The situation is heating up ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

What about the French pilots from an aircraft carrier now? .. They may accidentally fall under the Forts' pvsh fire ... The situation is heating up ...

I think in the next few hours the VKS group will be strengthened by both the SU-30 and SU-35 fighters ... the Black Sea Fleet and the group based in the Crimea will also receive the corresponding input. This is in the first chapter ... and there the Baltic will catch up with the Caspian.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

I think in the next few hours the VKS group will be strengthened by both the SU-30 and SU-35 fighters ... the Black Sea Fleet and the group based in the Crimea will also receive the corresponding input. This is in the first chapter ... and there the Baltic will catch up with the Caspian.

And urgently send "Kuznetsov" to the Mediterranean! "Moscow" alone will not survive for long without air cover. Who knows what else you can expect from these "friends" from Nata? ..

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

And urgently send "Kuznetsov" to the Mediterranean! "Moscow" alone will not survive for long without air cover. Who knows what else you can expect from these "friends" from Nata? ..

I think that a clear sign that Turkish planes will be shot down will be the appearance of the MIG-31 somewhere not far away. Perhaps the Mediterranean squadron will be strengthened ... we'll see ...

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

I think a clear sign that Turkish planes will go astray is the appearance of the MIG-31 somewhere not far away.

In Khmeimim, they will increase the number of Su-30SM and may add Su-35.
And the decked KUB with Kuzi will fulfill the task set by the commander in chief

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

In Khmeimim, they will increase the number of Su-30SM and may add Su-35.
And the decked KUB with Kuzi will fulfill the task set by the commander in chief

Well, our submarines will be near if the Turks try to get on the boat. And the Iskander with Balls and Bastions in the Crimea will be put on alert.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: GSH-18

In Khmeimim, they will increase the number of Su-30SM and may add Su-35.
And the decked KUB with Kuzi will fulfill the task set by the commander in chief

Well, our submarines will be near if the Turks try to get on the boat. And the Iskander with Balls and Bastions in the Crimea will be put on alert.

At the Black Sea Fleet we now have 4 newest Varshavyanka submarines armed with Caliber. I think two of them are already passing the Turkish straits

[222222]

"Armenia is ready to support Russia." Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan expressed his condolences to Vladimir Putin in connection with the plane shot down by Turkey in Syria and expressed readiness to provide any assistance. “We must fight this evil all together, and those who help the bandits should be punished. Armenia, as Russia's main ally in the south, is ready to help the brothers in the fight against terrorism. Turkey has twice violated the airspace of Armenia twice lately and this causes concern. The Middle East must be reassured, otherwise it could end in a big war. - S. Sargsyan stated. ”

[NEXUS]

Quote: 222222

"Armenia is ready to support Russia." Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan expressed his condolences to Vladimir Putin in connection with the plane shot down by Turkey in Syria and expressed readiness to provide any assistance. “We must fight this evil all together, and those who help the bandits should be punished. Armenia, as Russia's main ally in the south, is ready to help the brothers in the fight against terrorism. Turkey has twice violated the airspace of Armenia twice lately and this causes concern. The Middle East must be reassured, otherwise it could end in a big war. - S. Sargsyan stated. ”

The Kurds in social networks expressed their readiness to avenge the Russian pilots, but they ask MANPADS to arrange a non-air zone on the border with Turkey ... but for now it is necessary to calculate everything in cold blood, and not chop in a fever. It is clear that "meanness" and "sabotage" , but the answer needs to be verified and very accurate.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

It is clear that "meanness" and "sabotage", but the answer needs a verified and very accurate.

So the time has come for the Kadyrov Guard. They and MANPADS in hand!

[GSH-18]

Quote: 222222

"Armenia is ready to support Russia." Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan expressed his condolences to Vladimir Putin in connection with the plane shot down by Turkey in Syria and expressed readiness to provide any assistance. “We must fight this evil all together, and those who help the bandits should be punished. Armenia, as Russia's main ally in the south, is ready to help the brothers in the fight against terrorism. Turkey has twice violated the airspace of Armenia twice lately

Along the way, the Turks ran into their old sworn "friends" of the Armenians. The mouse's tears will flow to the cat. They didn’t recognize the Armenian genocide in Turkey, they didn’t even apologize, now you’ll catch it!

[Weyland]

Quote: 222222

Turkey has twice violated the airspace of Armenia twice lately and this causes concern

A rather thick hint of the expected consequences of the third violation ...

[Sterlya]

Quote: GSH-18

Pure kidnak and setup from the arrogant Saxons. They wash their hands. request

I don’t think so. Wait and see.

[Persistent]

But now Washington and Brussels are rejecting Erdogan, saying that this is his personal initiative. The geek is being drained.

Too late !!! There is evidence that the Americans have recently redeployed the F-16 with air-to-air missiles closer to the border with Syria. Since ours notified the Turks about the routes of our aircraft, the Turks, with the help of the United States, organized an air ambush !!!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Persistent

Too late !!! There is evidence that the Americans have recently redeployed the F-16 with air-to-air missiles closer to the border with Syria. Since ours notified the Turks about the routes of our aircraft, the Turks, with the help of the United States, organized an air ambush !!!

I will not be surprised at the appearance in Syria of the SU-35 and additional Krasukh-4, as well as the activation of the Black Sea Fleet off the coast of Turkey and Syria.

[GSH-18]

Yes. According to Life News, a video has now been shown. Our rescue Mi-8 was destroyed from the TOU when it was on the ground. One paratrooper died. The rest are all evacuated by a second helicopter, and are now at our base in Khmeimim.
Now these yodas are definitely the end. We will never forgive this! And we have local allies!

[Sling cutter]

Quote: GSH-18

. Our rescue Mi-8 was destroyed from the TOU when it was on the ground. One paratrooper died. The rest are all evacuated by a second helicopter, and are now at our base in Khmeimim.

Get fucked up!
Do you remember the people said that we wouldn’t go to the ground "opera"?
But our losses - 224-2-1 total 227 of our SHOWERS and how now we will be further?

[GSH-18]

Quote: Stroporez

But our losses - 224-2-1 total 227 of our SHOWERS and how now we will be further?

What did you mean? What are these numbers? At the moment, we have TWO dead soldiers in Syria! A passenger plane is not a combat loss, a terrorist attack. We fight against terrorist attacks in Syria. Otherwise, a year later, in Russia, they would again begin to blow up houses, buses, seize theaters, etc. We have no way out. And the scum are to blame!

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

What did you mean? What are these numbers? At the moment, we have TWO dead soldiers!

He plus and the dead on board the Watermelon ... which is right.

[ZAV69]

Wrong. As for the sausage, it is not clear yet who the customer is. Although those who need to seem to know, but not for the general public.

[NEXUS]

Quote: ZAV69

Wrong. As for the sausage, it is not clear yet who the customer is. Although those who need to seem to know, but not for the general public.

The customer has been voiced for a long time - this is the Minister of Defense of Qatar ... therefore, the GDP and in the 20-ke called the states supporting terrorism.

[BLACK-SHARK-64]

just wet ... and wet again ... even in the toilet ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

Yes. According to Life News, a video has now been shown. Our rescue Mi-8 was destroyed from the TOU when it was on the ground. One paratrooper died. The rest are all evacuated by a second helicopter, and are now at our base in Khmeimim.
Now these yodas are definitely the end. We will never forgive this! And we have local allies!

As far as I understand, the same Kurds will very soon have MANPADS. And in the recaptured territories S-400s will be deployed, with Krasukhs and everything that goes towards the Turkish border will be destroyed. There you still need to look at what will unfold from the Armenian side and not start whether the Turkish planes fall "unexpectedly" ... of course all economic relations will be interrupted.

[GSH-18]

Now Kadyrov said: "Thousands of our fighters are always waiting for the order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Federation, you will see that Turkey will very seriously regret what it has done! To swear friendship and kill from behind is a betrayal."

[Dart2027]

Quote: NEXUS

Drain geek

Hard to say. I mean, it is still unknown who exactly gave the order - Erdogan or someone else.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Dart2027

Hard to say. I mean, it is still unknown who exactly gave the order - Erdogan or someone else.

But is this not an obvious fact for you? Such decisions, being a member of NATO, are not made by Astana ...

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Such decisions, as a member of NATO, do not Astana...

Astana is the capital of Kazakhstan. You probably meant Ankara ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

Astana is the capital of Kazakhstan. You apparently meant Ankara.

Yes, I'm sorry ... I'm worried ... thanks for correcting

[Dart2027]

Quote: NEXUS

But is this not an obvious fact for you? Such decisions, being a member of NATO

This is what I mean. For Turkey, this is just a meaningless act - no benefits, but a lot of problems. Erdogan does not look like an id ... but he hardly understands this. So either there are unaccounted factors for which he expects to win, or he was taken by the throat. And depending on how things are going, the government needs to act.

[Yuyuka]

But now Washington and Brussels are rejecting Erdogan, saying that this is his personal initiative. The geek is being drained.

but nobody drains! they say - it's your business - Russia and Turkey! they drain it when the minimum is condemned !!! and here? They just set him up a little - he can get out, no, well, no, and there is no trial! color revolution! and the consequences? all the same, the USA wins - the Turks will feel bad in any way - ours will not be left without consequences, but the economic costs will be for us and the Turks ... Is the Turkish stream covered? A grocery delivery? The "Big Game" is in progress, and Turkey is a pawn ... moreover, which thinks "to go to the queens", not suspecting that it is simply sacrificed for a completely different piece ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: Yuyuka

Yes, no one merges! they say - this is your business - Russia and Turkey!

The fact of the matter is that Erdogan counted on the protection of NATO and Washington, but received the answer - "these are your dealings with Russia" ... what if not a drain?

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: Yuyuka

Yes, no one merges! they say - this is your business - Russia and Turkey!

The fact of the matter is that Erdogan counted on the protection of NATO and Washington, but received the answer - "these are your dealings with Russia" ... what if not a drain?

Now they showed the NATO Secretary General: "We are in solidarity with Turkey, the NATO countries have the right to protect the inviolability of their territory." And this is in the absence of evidence of crossing the Turkish border by our bomber. Even though he crossed their border, what kind of threat did he pose to Turkey when he returned home after the mission ???! Freaks!

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

Now they showed the NATO Secretary General: "We are in solidarity with Turkey, the NATO countries have the right to protect the inviolability of their territory." And this is in the absence of evidence of crossing the Turkish border by our bomber. Even though he crossed their border, what kind of threat did he pose to Turkey when he returned home after the mission ???! Freaks!

I don’t think that NATO will harbor Erdogan. In addition, we have ways to greatly complicate the life of both Erdogan and the whole of Turkey ... but again, the measures must be accurate and very verified.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Turkey ... but again, the measures must be accurate

In response, it is necessary to bring down the Turkish f-16 over Syria, they often march around without demand. And then verify the corrected measures!

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

In response, it is necessary to bring down the Turkish f-16 over Syria, they often march around without demand. And then verify the corrected measures!

It’s too early ... our people are in Turkey. But the Turks will probably have to be shot down and drowned soon. Perhaps the Kyrgyz Republic will fly away in the same direction ... we'll see. Now our people need to be pulled out and the VKS group in Syria pulled out as quickly as possible. It’s possible to transfer S-400 there too ... in general there are many ways and ways. It is important not to break firewood but to calmly and judiciously end Erdogan and the Turkish caliphate.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: GSH-18

In response, it is necessary to bring down the Turkish f-16 over Syria, they often march around without demand. And then verify the corrected measures!

It’s too early ... our people are in Turkey. But the Turks will probably have to be shot down and drowned soon. Perhaps the Kyrgyz Republic will fly away in the same direction ... we'll see. Now our people need to be pulled out and the VKS group in Syria pulled out as quickly as possible. It’s possible to transfer S-400 there too ... in general there are many ways and ways. It is important not to break firewood but to calmly and judiciously end Erdogan and the Turkish caliphate.

most importantly, Schaub Nata did not give up to save the savior of the Islamic State.

[NEXUS]

Quote: GSH-18

most importantly, Schaub Nata did not give up to save the savior of the Islamic State.

I’m thinking about the work on these issues now. Explain who is XU.

[GSH-18]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: GSH-18

most importantly, Schaub Nata did not give up to save the savior of the Islamic State.

I’m thinking about the work on these issues now. Explain who is XU.

Perhaps the Turks "in business" were offended for the dismantled fuel trucks and oil fields, however! So a certain "interest" in this act of aggression against our VKS is visible ...
But!
The sowing wind will reap the storm!

[saygon66]

- They are already explaining ... The Russian Air Force service has given information that the Turkish Foreign Ministry is calling on the ambassadors of Russia, China, America, France and Britain to discuss the situation with the downed plane.

[GSH-18]

Quote: saygon66

- They are already explaining ... The Russian Air Force service has given information that the Turkish Foreign Ministry is calling on the ambassadors of Russia, China, America, France and Britain to discuss the situation with the downed plane.

It is interesting that they will babble there ?? Like, excuse me, mistaken, force majeure ???

[saygon66]

- It doesn't look like ... "Deutsche Welle" gives generally gloomy forecasts ... supports the Turks.
- The impression is that the Turks rested, and in response to all questions they will shout "We warned you ... We will not allow ... We are not some Balts ..."

[viktor561]

A clear hell - to engage Russia in the war with Ukraine did not work out - as it should with the East - breaks off - the war will bastards to you

[sssla]

Quote: Sterlya

Creatures Turks, because of cheap oil is that? I think here is not only oil. Yes, and the mattresses rather tried, stopudovo

http://politobzor.net/show-72123-sbityy-su-24-isterika-turcii-pered-pobedoy-rf.h
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[Rrrj]

I don’t know, but it seems true - then in general ...

[just exp]

the helicopter was kind of like a Syrian.

[Rrrj]

Quote: just explo

the helicopter was kind of like a Syrian.

All the same, our people died!

[Saburov]

Yes, it’s a production, according to them, after a salvo, the crocodile would work right away and there would be no people near the helicopter where the guards and cordons are, and even more so in the territory controlled by the militants, he would not have sat down to the visual contact with the pilot, safety instructions.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: rrrj

All the same, our people died!

No one died there. This is video editing. Propaganda video.

[Yuyuka]

our helicopter, shot down from a rifle, killed one marine. The rest was taken out. With a mortar, the militants destroyed. The defense ministry said at a briefing an hour ago ... Our one pilot was also shot in the air ... the news shot by militants showed in the news. The second is still unknown where. I think as soon as ours take them out of there - they will burn these fucking creatures along the border!

[GSH-18]

Quote: Yuyuka

our helicopter, shot down from a rifle, killed one marine. The rest was taken out. WITH mortar militants destroyed.

With a mortar helicopter ??? What is it like? Asked while hanging over the trunk while the mine was charged?

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: rrrj

I don’t know, but it seems true - then in general ...

Complete lies. The helicopter stands on the ground and is illuminated in size so that it does not miss. The shot was in bright sunlight, and the helicopter was shot down in the evening. Installation. Always look at the little things carefully. By the way, not a single person is near the helicopter. And this is not an aviation base. The blades do not rotate.

[Aleksey_K]

Maybe I'm not quite right. A search and rescue helicopter would be damaged by small arms, land, a marine would die. The entire helicopter crew was evacuated by a second helicopter. The damaged helicopter was destroyed by mortars from mortars, and not from ATGM (anti-tank weapon). Although the video seems to show a flying rocket that first hit the ground, then bounced off and then hit a helicopter.

[PM78]

I agree with you. I am sure that they organized an "ambush" on our Drying Yankees are lousy, and the Turks followed Obamov's instructions .. And again slovenliness - where is the air defense / missile defense? and to put Mr. Shoigu together with GDP in a maize plant and force him to cross the Turkish border!

[win]

Turks creatures, because of cheap oil is

Ordinary Turks will not receive anything from this money for oil.
It family business Erdogan. His son was repeatedly seen (and there are photos) with the leaders of the terrorists.
Money money money...

[Nikolay K]

I wonder if the Americans could provoke by deliberately distorting the gps signals in this area, i.e. so that the Turkish pilot sincerely believes that our plane is deep in Turkey

[GSH-18]

Quote: Nikolai K

I wonder if the Americans could provoke by deliberately distorting the gps signals in this area, i.e. so that the Turkish pilot sincerely believes that our plane is deep in Turkey

Yes easily. ZhPS is the same Pindocovo navigation system!

[Trogvar]

Yesterday (in our Far East it was yesterday) some media reported that one of the pilots was captured by almost Turkish special forces .. the question is: was it not this special forces that called the F-16? so as not to stupidly stay in the mountains in the Syrian territory with a bunch of burnt meat .. they could not know that "Drying" is empty .. they did it, and they were saved from the metropolis in this way. Although .. maybe nonsense ..

[Aleksey_K]

The idea is interesting, but air defense systems do not focus on GPS. They have their own locators. A pilot never decides to destroy a target in peacetime without permission to open fire from the ground. And he doesn’t give a damn where he is located, over his territory or over someone else’s. He carries out the order and the point.

[Drmadfisher]

mattresses are now shitting heavily in diapers, they didn’t need the same turn (Turkey is a country of NATs), the answer will be, tochnik

[Dreiko11]

Of course, we’re here for business, they specially delivered fighter aircraft of Turkey for a short time

[BEGA2015]

Today, German mass media reported that two journalists were arrested in Turkey.
Erdogan himself has been charged with STATE CHANGE!
The indictment is that these two journalists published an article on the supply of arms and ammunition from Turkey to Islamic State terrorists under the control and direct support of Turkish specials. services.
Erdogan- THE LAST BATTERY AND THE CRIMINAL!
With such a creature no negotiations can be conducted, he will understand only the language of power!

[The lead]

He was afraid that everything would be limited to co-operation, and so it goes. Ugh.

[tol100v]

Quote: Baikonur

In nature, there’s nothing left to think!

You need to always think, even when the last drops of blood leave you! And in geopolitics there is always someone to think about and make an adequate decision! And the fact that Turkey shot itself in the head in favor of the State Department is Turkey’s problems!

[INVESTOR]

I won’t be surprised if after some time a Turkish military plane crashes.

[GSH-18]

Quote: INVESTOR

I won’t be surprised if after some time a Turkish military plane crashes.

The reaction should be this: Inevitability is inevitable!

[just exp]

there are still losses, one Marine was also saved to save when they fired a turntable from the ground. it was this pinwheel that was destroyed on the ground (was abandoned) and filmed on a video that walks on an Internet.

[vaschenko07]

that's just the big question - WHO IS MORE READ?

[djqnbdjqnb]

Quote: Baikonur

Unfriendly Act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less unfriendly facts have begun!

So, after all, we are being drawn into a war with Turkey, and if we succeed, then with the entire NATO organization !! Failed in Ukraine - try in Syria! Don’t you understand? The task of the GDP is to smash ISIS, not to drag it into the war!

[Bombardier]

Sergey Rumyantsev. Pilot Su-24, shot down today in Syria by Turkish ISIS defenders.
Everlasting memory. HERO!

[Bombardier]

His photo! Condolences to the family!

[alekc75]

SUCH MEN TREATED BY BAGS

[Baikonur]

I'm so sorry! I watched the video how they were shot by parachutes and cried!

[Vita vko]

Yes wait you guys keep !!! They are searching. Hopefully.

[AKS-U]

Baikonur, tell me where this video is.

[Persistent]

IDENTIFICATION

According to preliminary estimates, Major Aleksandr Rumyantsev, a guard, may be a guarded pilot — Su-24M pilot with serial number 0715323 of the 6980th Guards Air Base of the 1st category of military unit 69806, whose air group is based at the Shagol airfield in Chelyabinsk (photo comparison was made on based on Twitter / archive / and photos from InformNapalm database).

Information is confirmed in Chelyabinsk.

Eternal memory to the defender of the motherland !!!!

[kapitan281271]

Guys, let's wait, it may not be confirmed, I really want to believe in a miracle!

[gas113]

It seems to have flashed that the Turks are alive and are engaged in the liberation. Information on Lenta.ru

[GSH-18]

Quote: gas113

It seems to have flashed that the Turks are alive and are engaged in the liberation. Information on Lenta.ru

Under the FABs of such "liberators"!
As a result of the operation planned by Turkey, two RA soldiers performing an anti-terrorist operation in Syria, a Su-24M pilot and a Marine from the rescue Mi-8 were killed! The fate of the co-pilot SU-24M is still unknown. If only ours would find him faster!

[Sea Wolf]

Everlasting memory. Family sincere condolences. The main thing is that the Motherland does not forget and does not leave loved ones in trouble.

[alekc75]

Sorry for the men !!!!

[Bombardier]

Gone, men, to heaven! Mourn waiting for retribution!

[Dr. Bormental]

He shouted at last
In an airplane burning:
- You live, you hold out! -
It came through the rumble.

We flew under god
Near the very paradise -
He climbed a little higher and sat there,
Well, I reached the ground.

Met the pilot dryly
Paradise airfield.
He sat on his belly
But did not crawl on it.

He fell asleep - did not wake up,
He sang - did not finish,
So here I am back
He came back, he came back
Well, he failed.
V. Vysotsky. Song about the pilot.
Eternal memory to HEROES!

[GSH-18]

Quote: Bombardier

Gone, men, to heaven! Mourn waiting for retribution!

Retribution is inevitable!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Bombardier

Sergey Rumyantsev.

Eternal memory to the defender.

[Fonmeg]

Bombardier RU Today, 19:28 ↑

Sergey Rumyantsev. Pilot Su-24, shot down today in Syria by Turkish ISIS defenders.
Everlasting memory. HERO!

And judging by the diplomacy of the Defense Ministry, Russia cannot answer for the murdered Hero!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Fonmeg

And judging by the diplomacy of the Defense Ministry, Russia cannot answer for the murdered Hero!

Yes, it’s good to moan, did you want the YaRS to start right now? Fast only cats e..sya.

[Karayakupovo]

As I said, in war, as in war, or as with the Jesuits, the end justifies the means. To shoot those who killed our pilots, most importantly, with bullets smeared with bacon, wrap the bodies in pig skins and bury them (as the American General Pershing did in the Philippines), and post the video on the Internet. And, most importantly, spit on everyone. We are responsible for our own. And who has the rest "ours" -We'll see.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Bombardier

Sergey Rumyantsev. Pilot Su-24, shot down today in Syria by Turkish ISIS defenders.
Everlasting memory. HERO!

http://cont.ws/post/152651
"The pilot was identified by the number of the downed aircraft"
THIS IS THIS ??? In my opinion it's too early to trust this blogger! Let's wait for the official statements.

[kil 31]

NON-JUDGMENT ACT what a nobility.

[Egoza]

Quote: keel 31

NON-JUDGMENT ACT what a nobility.

From another article (about the Crimea) but it says TRUE.

Dear KGB officers, did you fight hooligans in Petersburg yards as a child? Or were there only intelligent guys? So such in Ukraine during the day with fire. To communicate with the local authorities, you need to master the basic rules: do not enter the bazaars, always be the first to answer, respond stiffly to the insults - beat in the teeth, take the enemy to the point of loss of combat effectiveness, take it weakly - do not move out, move out on trifles - they will push further. ... My own experience of direct observation of events in Syria and Ukraine suggests that if something is actively expected, then it will definitely happen. To fuel conflict, majority support is not needed.
We need a small active group for radical actions and external cover. And then the spiral of violence will spin itself. Have you seen enough of this in recent years?
But because you need to beat first. And finish off!
Igor Dimitriev

[Karayakupovo]

Dear Fidget! Not in the teeth, but in the balls! That there was no continuation (kind). With respect to you, a Muslim from the Urals. (My uncle is buried in Voroshilovgrad (Lugansk).

[tol100v]

Quote: keel 31

NON-JUDGMENT ACT what a nobility.

What the hell nobility !? Blinding by politics and short-sightedness! Let’s go on the brakes now, tomorrow they’ll throw the whole flock! And the Pack (NATO) will be much harder to fight!

[1976AG]

These words Shoigu mean little, because he does not have the right to run ahead of the engine (i.e. GDP). His task is to fulfill the orders of the Supreme.

[Sterlya]

Quote: Kimblee

Unfriendly Act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less unfriendly facts have begun!

There is no need to start a war a lot of mind. But it’s impossible to leave unpunished in any way.
And how sorry for the guys ... Earth rest in peace.
War, war.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Sterlya

There is no need to start a war a lot of mind. But it’s impossible to leave unpunished in any way.
And how sorry for the guys ... Earth rest in peace.

Weighted koment!

[vorobey]

Quote: Sterlya

There is no need to start a war a lot of mind. But it’s impossible to leave unpunished in any way.

19:37

Turkey has not provided Russia with evidence of a violation by the Russian Su-24 of its airspace, Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov said. “First of all, we proceed from the testimonies of our military experts who have all the flight parameters of an airplane that was shot down,” Mr. Peskov said. “These data indicate that the aircraft was flying in the airspace of the SAR and was shot down in the Syrian sky” .


19:35

There was no talk about stopping air traffic with Turkey - Dmitry Peskov


19:34

The Kremlin emphasizes that Moscow does not threaten Turkey with military consequences for the Su-24 attack, but warn of the "inevitability of consequences." “The president did not talk about any military consequences, it is necessary to proceed from this,” said the press secretary of the head of state Dmitry Peskov. “The president did not allow such statements, but at the same time, of course, he noted the inevitability of the consequences after such unfriendly actions of the Turkish side ".

[Simple]

Quote: vorobey

The Kremlin emphasizes that Moscow does not threaten Turkey with military consequences for the Su-24 attack,

Why rush into the pool?

PQ-18 business says.

Turkey will cost more.

In general, I believe that this incident was not without the long arm of the United States. So to speak, a touchstone for committing rash acts.

[Wolverine]

The consequences are the sunk of the tanker Endorgan and his son, that's where they would start.

[Aleksander]

Quote: vorobey

The Kremlin emphasizes that Moscow does not threaten Turkey with military consequences for the Su-24 attack, but they warn about the "inevitability of the consequences." “The President did not talk about any military consequences, one must proceed from this,”

Reuters also reports on the downed MI 24 helicopter, which was looking for pilots of the 24 SU.
Don’t answer the Turks! Or you need to curl up and leave, but they will still beat, and already ALL after and after too ....
A bitter day ....

[Yarik]

“First you need to get involved in a serious battle, and there it will already be visible. "
Napoleon Bonaparte It didn't matter ...

[GOGY]

I do not agree. Napoleon’s everything was clear until he contacted us. But we are not French and Turkey is not Russia, something like that ...

[Yuyuka]

There is no need to start a war a lot of mind. But it’s impossible to leave unpunished in any way.

I support! they will not leave unpunished! looking at Putin at a meeting with the king of Jordan, how calmly, quietly he says, you know - they won’t think enough! just not military action, too straightforward! there are so many unofficial ways to make it clear that the Turks are wrong and they will bite their elbows .... and not their own ...

[GSH-18]

Quote: Sterlya

There is no need to start a war a lot of mind. But it’s impossible to leave unpunished in any way.
And how sorry for the guys ... Earth rest in peace.
War, war.

You can’t forgive fighting.
Where do I put a comma?

[da n ya 1914]

The world order is most important, but what the Turks did is already too much.

[Rrrj]

Quote: Kimblee

Unfriendly Act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less unfriendly facts have begun!

Everything is normal comrades - do not fool around - all the way through - mine have already said in past topics - the answer will be tough.
Well, so what to say to this: "At present, the Russian Ministry of Defense is developing a set of measures to respond to such incidents."
A complete madhouse - right now, new notes of protest, they will write speeches - that’s all the preparation.

[sssla]

Quote: rrrj

A complete madhouse - right now, new notes of protest, they will write speeches - that’s all the preparation.

As smart as a wutka, why is it poor ???

[Rrrj]

Quote: sssla

As smart as a wutka, why is it poor ???

Ah what urapatriot - fart burns?
PS. Enrages that I was right?
PPP. And why the hell did you get that I'm poor? Or do you judge in your own Ukraine?

[Oleg14774]

Quote: rrrj

right now, new notes of protest, words will be written - that’s all the preparation.

If so, then all our people are worthless ... well, you understand who I am. In the meantime, let's wait.

[Rrrj]

Quote: Oleg147741

Well, you understand who I am. In the meantime, let's wait.

I really, really hope so. But the nerves to the limit - even the head hurt.

[Vadim237]

Remember the shelling of our border territory from Ukraine in 2014, two servicemen died and grandfather was killed right outside the house, then our Foreign Ministry and the Moscow Defense Ministry were also involved in coping - today the situation is the same.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Vadim237

Remember the shelling of our border territory from Ukraine in 2014, two servicemen died and grandfather was killed right outside the house, then our Foreign Ministry and the Moscow Defense Ministry were also involved in coping - today the situation is the same.

And what do you suggest? To strike in Turkey? After which we will have to fight the whole NATO block. Is that your goal? Here, only diplomatic and other MILITARY methods are applicable. But Turkey will answer for this black atrocity. Maybe not this minute, but he will answer! I have no doubt about that.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: rrrj

Everything is normal comrades - do not boil over - everything by

And what does the word "kipish" mean in a criminal camp hair dryer? Are you a criminal or what?

[Rrrj]

Quote: Алексей_К

And what does the word "kipish" mean in a criminal camp hair dryer? Are you a criminal or what?

I answered in the same way as they wrote to me in the last article (see my comments).
P.S. This is now how students on YouTube talk - we learn a little))

[Lord of the Sith]

I sit, look at the different sites on the composition and in what condition the Turkish army is and what it can oppose in case of war ...

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: Sith Lord

I sit, look at the different sites on the composition and in what condition the Turkish army is and what it can oppose in case of war ...

Well, here it is necessary to take in tandem with NATO and the igil coalition, which will support because of all forces, although not directly.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Sith Lord

I sit, look at the different sites on the composition and in what state the Turkish army is and what it can oppose in case of war.

What interests you? Turkey is a member of NATO. But even if it is neutral, a military conflict in Turkey is impossible, unless Russia openly supports the Kurds. Then, of course, Erdogan is finished and he freaks out for good reason, there is a reason. In addition, it is obvious that the Turkish Air Force is now ordered on the territory of Syria, possibly Iraq. The flight will be only one way.

[Fregate]

You can blame me, but I believe that the answer on our part should be military and asymmetric. Then you need to declare that we have no more complaints. And if another incident occurs with our aircraft or ships and Turkey is involved in this, then our next missiles (Caliber, x-102) will be with special warheads. Because economic sanctions are bullshit. The same as the EU introduced to us, but they are mutual. And the Turks buy from us various products worth several times higher than we have from them. T.ch. economic sanctions will also hit us harder.

[Snake831]

It’s a shame to endure this, people! It's just a shame! What sanctions ?! What unfriendly acts ?! They killed the Russian soldiers at execution! They killed it vilely, from around the corner! The order for the attack was issued by a high military rank! Shame, gentlemen! Shame on all of us! So our rulers pay for honor and courage to those who expose themselves to fire! All this is the verbiage of our government, nothing more than a mockery of all of us! War is disgusting, scary and difficult. But if we do not stand up for ourselves, then who ?

[Bird the Talker]

Yes, I'm sorry, to have any consequences. the severance of deep relations, until the moment the perpetrators of this treacherous launch are punished, the flyer Ph16 is not considered the termination of trade relations. export of Russo tourist through SCO partners BRICS EVRAZES. The destruction of the plane is a declaration of war. or does the "senior warrant officer" have a different opinion?

[Rrrj]

Quote: Bird Talker

the export of Russo tourist through the SCO BRICS EURASES partners

Yes, if - and then they themselves will sit on the neck - Russia will have to export all the CIS from there.

[ayyildiz]

In the Turkish press, information appeared that both pilots were alive! And the dead pilot from the helicopter was!

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: ayyildiz

In the Turkish press, information appeared that both pilots were alive! And the dead pilot from the helicopter was!

Arabs are very fond of making videos of their victories. Where is the video? Where is the video about the helicopter pilot? Until this appears on Islamic sites, this cannot be believed. Something like, one woman said. And you repeat.

[samoletil18]

Quote: ayyildiz

In the Turkish press, information appeared that both pilots were alive! And the dead pilot from the helicopter was!

Lord Make it true.

[da n ya 1914]

The commander and navigator were on the plane. They catapulted. They were fired upon when they parachuted and killed the commander, and the Syrian special forces rescued the navigator.

[arnulla]

Maybe the Turks are lying? So that while we cool, we don’t wail

[AKS-U]

Wars even began as a result of a football match.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: AKS-U

Wars even began as a result of a football match.

Very interesting, but can you give an example?

[andj61]

Quote: Алексей_К

Quote: AKS-U

Wars even began as a result of a football match.

Very interesting, but can you give an example?

And you type in the search engine "football war" - and you will see that he is right!

Football War (born Football War; Spanish: Guerra del Fútbol) - a fleeting military conflict between El Salvador and Honduras, which lasted six days (from July 14 to 20, 1969). According to international media, the immediate cause of the war was the loss of the Honduran team to the Salvador team in the playoff matches of the qualifying stage of the World Cup, which explains the name given to the conflict.
Despite the transience, the conflict cost dearly to both sides; total losses amounted to several thousand people; the war has buried the regional integration project of the Central American Common Market. The peace treaty between the countries was signed only 10 years after the end of the war.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: andj61

And you type in the search engine "football war" - and you will see that he is right!

And you read all this text yourself, only completely. The reasons for this war were border conflicts from abroad on the maps of these countries. Each considered some territories to be its own. And the war began not because of the result of the match, but because of the killing of citizens by each other’s countries. And it does not depend on the result of the match. All the same, they would kill each other. Countries at the border already fought with each other and considered themselves enemies.

[Persistent]

Russia has every right, with Assad’s consent, to close Syria’s airspace ...

[Max_Bauder]

The following is a very mild statement for the status of the defense department:
We consider the actions of the Turkish Air Force as an unfriendly act.

and then what, harmless action?

[Xsanchez]

One thing is good, the Europeans began to slowly merge Turkey, seeing how stupid the Turks are, no one wants to harness for them, but it is necessary, because they accepted NATO into 1952.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Xsanchez

One thing is good, the Europeans began to slowly merge Turkey, seeing how stupid the Turks are, no one wants to harness for them, but it is necessary, because they accepted NATO into 1952.

They admitted to NATO only for reasons - to deploy American missiles with nuclear charges in Turkey, to build American bases and tracking systems for the USSR. And to fight for Turkey is NATO’s plans and has never been included, even if there are obligations. The point is, try to destroy the USSR from the territory of Turkey, and the fact that it burns in a nuclear fire, NATO does not give a damn. Turkey is just a deceived country.

[dauria]

Wars over less unfriendly facts have begun!

The reason for the war can be anything. Need a reason. Real, primarily strategic territorial and (or) economic. The plane may be an occasion, but then it palm off Turkey, paving the way for those who need war. Guess three times, who needs to kick the RF out of the Middle East?
Who else believes that Erdogan himself got into trouble? States climbed, and, it seems, seriously.

[opus]

Quote: Kimblee

Wars over less unfriendly facts have begun!

never when
In June 2012, the Syrian army shot down a Turkish Air Force F-4 reconnaissance aircraft in the coastal zone of the Mediterranean Sea after breaking the air border over Syrian territorial waters. Both pilots died, and their bodies were found during a joint search for the Syrian and Turkish Navy.

Then Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan announced that "Outraged" by the Syrian decision to bring down the plane, which, according to him, carried out a training mission. "Short-term violation of the [air] border never cannot be an occasion for attack» - quoted by the BBC

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http://vod.alarabiya.net/2012/09/0339ea9793548372f6b79a2c98d3145c.flv

Al Arabiya released documents allegedly proving that Russian specialists were involved in the plane crash and claimed that Turkish pilots were captured alive and then secretly executed.
December 26, 1950 the air border of the USSR in the Far East was violated by the American reconnaissance aircraft RB-29. He was attacked by two Soviet MiG-15 fighters and shot down. The plane crashed into the sea, nothing is known about the fate of the crew.
On November 6, 1951, the US Navy's P2V Neptune aircraft was shot down over the Sea of ​​Japan by Soviet air defense forces. 10 people are missing. After the incident, the Soviet government issued a statement saying that the bomber,
violating the airspace of the USSR, did not obey orders to land and opened fire on Soviet aircraft, after which he was returned fire.
On June 13, 1952, the US Air Force RB-15 was shot down over the Sea of ​​Japan by Soviet MiG-29 fighters. 12 people are missing.
On October 7, 1952, a US Air Force RB-29 was shot down over the Pacific Ocean with eight crew members on board. Nothing is known about the fate of the pilots.
July 29, 1953 the RB-50 aircraft invaded the airspace of the USSR in the region
Vladivostok and was shot down by two Soviet MiG-17 fighters. Killed 15 crew members, one person managed to escape. 10 hours after the fall, he was picked up by the American destroyer Picking (DD-685).
On September 4, 1954, the US Navy's P2V Neptun aircraft violated Soviet airspace in the Vladivostok area and was shot down. One person died, nine others were saved.
On November 7, 1954, a US Air Force reconnaissance aircraft RB-29 violated Soviet airspace in the Kuril Islands and was shot down by Soviet fighters. 11 crew members parachuted; one of them died, the rest managed to escape.
On June 22, 1955, a US Navy patrol P2V-5 "Neptune" was attacked by Soviet fighters near St. Lawrence Island in the Bering Sea. The plane crashed onto the island. Seven of the 10 crew members were injured, but all survived.
On April 17, 1955, the US Air Force RB-47 electronic reconnaissance aircraft was shot down over the Bering Sea. Three people are missing.
On September 10, 1956, a U.S. Air Force RB-50 plane was shot down in the area of ​​the Sea of ​​Japan. 16 crew members were missing.
On August 27, 1962, in the Far East, Soviet air defense shot down a U-2 aircraft. Nothing is known about the fate of the pilot.

[papas-57]

Or maybe the Americans put a paw to the downing of the plane. They shifted the readings of their GPS system by 20-30 kilometers. And the Turks are fully confident that the Russian plane flies over their territory.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: papas-57

GPS systems 20-30 kilometers. And the Turks are fully confident that the Russian plane flies over their territory.

Do you know a good idea. They already used it somewhere. It seems also in the Middle East.

[opus]

Quote: papas-57

They shifted the readings of their GPS system by 20-30 kilometers.

It was "in the morning". The visibility is excellent.
The Turks (Air Force) have been flying there since the Turkish Air Force appeared (1911).
They studied the area at Yat.
In Diyarbakir, 2 TAC and 8 AvB are deployed

[ava09]

Quote: Kimblee

Unfriendly Act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less unfriendly facts have begun!

Why so sure that it is urgent to start a war with NATO? And confidence in its ending on Capitol Hill? Less tantrums, I think that Putin and Shoigu are no less patriots than you. But now I know for sure what is smarter ...

[Sashka]

damn .... I saw now the murder of a citizen of the Russian Federation. The pilot. How they tormented him, shouted akbar ... These are Turkmens. Recognize them as a terrorist group. Fell them nah. FSA gave the go-ahead:
05:47 Russia and Turkey should discuss the incident with Su-24 and take measures to prevent escalation, said US President Barack Obama: “I think it’s very important now that Russia and Turkey talk to each other and find out what happened, and took measures to prevent further escalation "Turkey, like any country, has the right to protect its territory and airspace," Barack Obama said.
Those. sort it out yourself. And we will figure it out, and get to you ... Good day.

[KVS]

put a military attache and an ambassador on a stake in the Red Square, at the same time wipe all military airfields and ports of Turkey off the face of the earth

[GRAY]

Quote: Kimblee

Wars over less unfriendly facts have begun!

There will be no war due to a downed plane. Most likely, it will be like with Georgia at one time - the stop of transport links will interrupt trade relations.
In addition, for starters, Russian citizens must be removed from there, and then talk about bad things.

[Koshak]

Quote: Kimblee

Unfriendly Act?!?!?! Are you kidding me ?! Wars over less unfriendly facts have begun!

I think that there should be a response. Well, ours cannot swallow such a slap in the face. They just don't advertise it yet. And if he only confines himself to "concern" then Putin and Shoigu will immediately fall below the plinth in the eyes of the people.

[Dmitry Toderes]

ISIS launched several terrorist attacks in Turkey, and the Turks support them. PPC

[meriem1]

MORE Ferdinand's murder was a reason for the massacre? It’s not a question for a long time

[yehat]

I remind you that fascist Germany did not attack the USSR after the downing of its aircraft in May and early June.
And it would be difficult for you to find a more aggressive country.
She attacked later for completely different reasons.
therefore, start learning history instead of writing nonsense.

[lonovila]

To my great regret ... - all this pomposity and bravado with Russian missile attacks from ships and other things are brought to nothing by just one blow of a NATO member.

[Sergei1982]

The Syrian military evacuated the second Russian pilot of the downed Russian Su-24 bomber. This was reported on the Lebanese TV channel Al Mayadeen's Facebook page.

Communication with the pilot, according to the channel, managed to establish after a six-hour search. For two hours, special forces of the Syrian army led the pilot out of the rear of the militants. He is currently safe at the Russian Hmeimim air base

[FREGATENKAPITAN]

Yes sir! An unfriendly act is when an egg was launched into an embassy window ..........

[oblako]

They took the side of ISIS. A bearded scum mocked the corpse of our pilot in front of the eyes of the whole world. He was shot from the ground while parachuting. This is an organized ambush on our plane. This is all a VERY unfriendly act. Straight ABSOLUTELY unfriendly PAD.LA Erdogan.

[Lepila]

Russia needs to supply modern weapons including air defense to the Kurds and strongly support the creation of an independent Kurdish state. And of course the boycott of Turkish resorts. Welcome to Israel.

[shultc]

Do you want war ?!

[skrabplus.ru]

V.V.P. He knows what to do, the outbreak of war and the provocateurs wanted to. Do smarter.
Although, I would not refuse to look at the retaliation of the Russian Aerospace Forces ...
Half-Turks will answer for everything!

[anderles66]

What are you! How brave you are! Are the lives of 150 million people behind you? I am sure that you yourself cannot protect yourself! Even the gopnik in the gateway is usually bold because he has a godfather who will protect. Who will help Russia? Tell me! Maybe Belarus, which sells weapons to Qatar?

[lewerlin53rus]

They have a short memory. Sinop was also forgotten and how sorry they were at 45. They even forgot their own words. When a Turkish plane was shot down in Syria, clambering where they didn’t ask

[Hubun]

the jocks shook by anyone when they still found out that the Pentagon had turned on the fool. From the Turkish government, a lifelong pension to the families of the victims at least

[dorz]

Masks removed ...

[Andrey NM]

Well, Europeans, take Turkey to your place in the EU! A worthy "member"!

[Finches]

Yes, it is clear that Erdogan, as an Islamist, shares with the leadership of the Islamic State! Especially in the share in the sale of free oil ... In addition to the tough answer at the official level, the Kurds need some money and weapons to throw ...!

[Abakan]

start otmazyvatsya turn away from their stsuk (Turks) Scary !!!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Abakan

start otmazyvatsya turn away from their stsuk (Turks) Scary !!!

And now the most interesting thing in this situation begins. Italy has disowned ... who will be the next from the NATO camp to "scold" Erdogan? Let's see if the Turks will find support from their masters or not. But our Foreign Ministry has already announced that there is no need to go to Turkey .I think our tourists are hastily taken out.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: NEXUS

who next from the NATO camp will "scold" Erdogan

In general, even the states reported that they were not related to the actions of the Turkish Air Force.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Vladimirets

In general, even the states reported that they were not related to the actions of the Turkish Air Force.

That's when everyone understands everything and all vacationers outside Turkey are taken out, then we can talk to the Turks as an adult. In the meantime, we are waiting ...

[Rrrj]

Quote: NEXUS

That's when everyone understands everything and all vacationers outside Turkey are taken out, then we can talk to the Turks as an adult. In the meantime, we are waiting ...

Then the precedent will disappear. Strike while the iron is hot.

[NEXUS]

Quote: rrrj

Then the precedent will disappear. Strike while the iron is hot.

It was necessary to accompany the bomber with cover fighters, and not "chew snot" and think it might carry. There would be an escort and "stuck" the F-16 into the ground, then "iron would be anchored." all tourists abroad in Turkey, in order to then take some more effective measures.

[TT62]

At the training grounds and in the zomboyaschik show (rockets bounce, rubella, mercury, etc.) for what? Now it seems to me it is necessary to resolve the issue with the pilots (God forbid that they were alive). And then "extinguish" the Turkish air defense by means of electronic warfare that would have already fallen, and burn all these oslo.bov. And there should be no "partners" during our air strikes. And burn, burn, burn, give, moderate and all who are not in our trench.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: NEXUS

It was necessary to accompany the bomber with cover fighters, and not "chew snot" and think maybe it will carry

It's easy to speculate in hindsight. Turkey did not shoot down Russian planes before. And if ISIS has missile defense systems, for example, the Americans will present ISIS with the Donald Cook destroyer. And you will say again that it was necessary to fly at an altitude of over 320 km.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Алексей_К

It's easy to speculate in hindsight. Turkey did not shoot down Russian planes before. And if ISIS has missile defense systems, for example, the Americans will present ISIS with the Donald Cook destroyer. And you will say again that it was necessary to fly at an altitude of over 320 km.

There were DIRECT and NOT CONCEPTUAL statements by the Turkish side that our planes would be shot down. What does it have to do with the backdating number? Why are the SU-30s being flown to Latakia? For the beauty? The bomber should be accompanied by cover fighters. This is the ABC.

[Aleksandr1959]

In short, "partners" are starting to slowly merge Turkey

[Minstrel]

Quote: NEXUS

who next from the NATO camp will "scold" Erdogan?

If I am not mistaken, the President of the Czech Republic was the first to spot. I saw it on the news on Russia-2 at 17-00

[15ghost10]

Yes, this grandfather is friends with his head. I will express my opinion on this. I think the Americans wanted to drag us into the war with Turkey, and if Russia got involved, they would immediately open a front in the east of Ukraine.
As for the pilots, I would hope that the guys are alive. By the way, even the Germans did not allow themselves to shoot our ejected pilots. Russians, I wish everyone endurance, we will punish these ... you.

[Cu6up9k]

Russia has to make a very difficult decision in this situation. Attempts to draw our country into the war are more and more frank and tougher.

[SibSlavRus]

The counter-terrorist operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the SAR, through the efforts of our sworn enemies and provocations, can simultaneously take a different form: whoever sows the wind will reap the storm.

Vladimir Putin: “Even 50 years ago, Leningradskaya Street taught me one rule: if a fight is inevitable, you must beat first.”

There are so many contradictions in the world now that "a fight is inevitable," and if such a task is set, we will be drawn into it.

Allies are defined, alliances too. CSTO is functioning.
I want only one thing - the total destruction of enemies and their states, without unnecessary humanism and Russian generosity. History shows that all the same, Judah-states do not appreciate this, even if they owe us their freedom, life and statehood.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: SibSlavRus

Counter-terrorist operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the SAR.
Vladimir Putin: “Even 50 years ago, Leningradskaya Street taught me one rule: if a fight is inevitable, you must beat first.”

III ??? Already given in the face ... Where are the actions except the words?

[sergeant1986]

Again at the time of rearmament they are trying to draw us in. We would have a couple more - three years !!!

[wandlitz]

and the deputy speaker of the Italian Senate accused Turkey of joining the war on the side of ISIS
So it is. Not any opinion.

[Delph]

Yes, no matter how the "political" interpretation sounds, I think, the main thing is that the answer should be adequate to the two lives of Our guys And to the mother's shed tears !!!

[Same lech]

Currently, the Russian Ministry of Defense is developing a set of measures to respond to such incidents.
The fighting against terrorists in Syria will continue.

The best answer is to place our S-300 and S-400 near the border with TURKEY ... as well as electronic warfare stations and turn them on every time you fly Turkish planes.
In addition, it is necessary to continue striking at those who shot our pilots ... the Turks will now not be able to fool people about the peace-loving Turkmen in the area ... crush reptiles as well as ISIS ... from one field a berry.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

The best answer is to place our S-300 and S-400 near the border with TURKEY ... as well as electronic warfare stations and turn them on every time you fly Turkish planes.

When the electronic warfare is turned on, the avionics may go crazy and fly into the territory of Syria to soak without warning.

[maai]

They are already there, in one form or another.
The fact that "mechanisms are being developed to respond to similar situations, etc." this is bullshit. Such things, and in general all "moments", are calculated in normal heads - far in advance and for any perspective.
The sky should have been closed tightly for a long time and everyone who was not invited by Syria and without a UN mandate had to be thrown out of there, and not "cooperate" with just anyone and all sorts of "partners". The same France, under the pretext of responding to terrorist attacks, now climbs anywhere and does anything in the manner of the United States. In Libya, she played first violin, and now the same Sarkozy, who took part in it specifically, now “visits” Putin and counts on “trends”.
PS Taking into account the fact that all Serdyukovs and other "cosmonauts" are doing fine, good people, as always, get hit, and those born to crawl, as usual, direct flights - nothing good can be expected.
...etc. etc.

[11 black]

The best that can now be done, as has already been said on TV, is to burn out, using napalm and cluster bombs, calibers and iskander, to turn into fertilizer all the manure that shot our pilots at the Turkish border (if they were really killed) so that every aslambek hall what if suddenly, under some circumstances, a Russian soldier gets in, they need to feed him, give him a drink, dress him up, apologize and let him go - that’s the only way!

[gas113]

Thermobar them in akbar !!!! Turcomon powder !!!! Let the Turks cry

[stayer]

Erdogan's son, Bilal, probably should go to Allah. First, the caravans of his hands are the work, well, justice must be God's ...

[GDV]

Forgive the Lord, the soul of your servant Sergius, forgive all sins, free and involuntary, and grant the Kingdom of Heaven.
To the relatives of condolences ... be fortified ... and pray your prayer for him for forty days most of all.

[Oleg14774]

Quote: sober

Bl ...... Again, did we swallow and say nothing?

They didn’t keep silent and did not swallow!

[Gardamir]

Already not silent and not swallowed

Example. Blah blah is not considered.

[Rrrj]

Quote: Gardamir

They didn’t keep silent and did not swallow Example. Blah blah is not considered.

But where were you guys used to be - in a previous article I was dipped and smeared into slops for such exclamations.

[goblin xnumx]

what can marshal - not leitech :)

[ia-ai00]

... Deputy Speaker of the Italian Senate accused Turkey of joining the war on the side of ISIS

The Turks showed who they really are ... in a word - as they were ENEMIES of Russia, they remained, vile jackals.

[sabakina]

They beat the Turks and we will beat ... And who forgets ...... Recall!

[zekaze1980]

Rigidity is needed immediately in such matters, I hope our leadership will not mumble in words and in deed.
And if they hit you on the right cheek, then hit in response and right in the nose!

[Oleg14774]

Quote: zekaze1980

Rigidity is needed immediately in such matters.

You can immediately break such firewood!

[ALEA IACTA EST]

It is necessary to drive all these ambassadors.

[polite people]

Kingdom of Heaven to a Russian warrior !!!

[Alexander 3]

Turkey de facto supports ISIS. In my opinion, they are also our enemies, which entails an expansion of the conflict. These hostile steps should not be left unanswered. Tourists should be recalled, no food should be bought, and Igil oil should be burned with tanks and fuel trucks.

[Monster_Fat]

The feeling of "de ja vu" does not leave me: Crimea, the old enemies - a coalition of Anglo-Saxons, Turks, French ... True, the French have not yet actively "fit in" against us, but anything is possible ... Direct return to the era of the Crimean War in 1853 years. That war ended sadly for us. I hope that it will not reach the second Crimean one with a smooth transition to the third world war ... oh, I really hope.

[sergeant1986]

Then we did not have YARSOV and POPLO!

[samoletil18]

Then there were no railways in this direction.

[Frigate]

We consider the actions of the Turkish Air Force as an unfriendly act.

This is actually a declaration of war. And this is done with the filing of the United States in order to look at Putin’s reaction. It will triple or respond as it should. Tobish the presence of modern weapons, that's not all, you still have to be a man to use it.

[plaha]

Yes, there are several thousand of our tourists, if our answer is, at best they will go to a Turkish prison with women and children

[Turkir]

Yes, there are several thousand of our tourists

I found out - there are ten thousand tourists from the Russian Federation.

[KaPToC]

Our people don’t take a taxi to the bakery.

[Natoiscoming]

But what does Turkey have no right to defend its borders? They warned our diplomats many times about the consequences.

[stonks]

The RF Ministry of Defense insists that the plane was shot down OVER THE SYRIAN TERRITORY and says that there is evidence of this.

[Dr.Serg]

And what? Did our plane attack Turkey? But Turkish planes flying into Syria, then the same need to shoot down? It flashed somewhere that one of the pilots was from Chelyabinsk ... I give a tip .. In this city there are several shish kebabs belonging to the Turks, the Turks work there ... they feed rot and slop ... and people hops ...

[TOR2]

Quote: NatoIScoming

why turkey does not have the right to defend its borders? They warned our diplomats many times about the consequences.

A little history for you. At one time, "blackbirds" were simply exhausting our air defense by deliberately invading our airspace. It was possible to shoot them down, but there is one very important nuance here. Where the debris will fall. If to our territory - then please note of protest, etc. , but if in neutral waters or the territory of another state, then the situation changes exactly the opposite and here it does not matter whether the plane violated or not. The "blackbirds" knew what they would get ... and were far from invading.

[sergeant1986]

It has. only we can shoot down all planes in its airspace with the permission of Syria. And I think that the sixteenths from heaven will begin to fall soon. Techs failures and so on.

[kirillovleva]

another toothless - evacuate Russians and erase Ankara

[Mountain shooter]

Is Shoigu soft? What should I take with the attaché? Our General Staff is preparing a response. For starters, this mountainous Latakia is mixed with shit. Nobody will cross the border. This brigade, which boasted of the execution of the pilots, should be destroyed demonstratively. Preferably with filming. Well, let the Chechen volunteers cleanse this mountainous Latakia to the ground. Take prisoners only for interrogation. Not for long. At the same time, they will clean up "their" crazy ones. Otherwise, catch them all over the Caucasus.

[revnagan]

How did they die!? After all, they catapulted, sort of !?

[Ze Kot]

They started to shoot in the air. And the video shows that in the landing area they work with artillery or mortars. And they wrote that upon landing they captured and shot him.

[Bashibuzuk]

They shot the guys in the air.
These. lousy and bearded.
...
Burn, burn evil.
Where are our Solntsepeks there?

[AlexTires]

shot in the air ...

[BIA29-80]

Quote: Bombardier

His photo! Condolences to the family!

Everlasting memory

[stonks]

The orientation of Turkish leaders to radical Islam has long been visible. Years.
The Turkish president has forgotten Ataturk’s covenants and is trying (and he succeeds) to transform the secular state into Islamic.

[Gunther]

Earth down dead.
And there will be enough single flights for a combat mission, the life of our pilots is more important than reports to the public.

... Senate Deputy Chairman Roberto Calderoli, commenting on what happened, called Turkey "the Trojan horse of radical Islamists, which they use to shoot in the West."

Turkey is more like a Trojan worm.

[dojjdik]

maneuvers of our fleet together with the Egyptian; support for Assad and the SAR and now a trip to Jordan-Putin sees the ring and a noose around Israel will work — Jews go all-in one of the accomplices of the mythical Isil Erdogan dropped his mask and showed his bestial grin; the next ht sheikhs saudi arabia and finally the main hypocrite israel

[Yes I am Russian]

Quote: GDV

Forgive the Lord, the soul of your servant Sergius, forgive all sins, free and involuntary, and grant the Kingdom of Heaven.

Of course, I understand everything, but writing this is not the topic. you can pray to yourself.

[Fonmeg]

Because of this toothlessness, we still lost the MI-24 helicopter while trying to find SUSHKI pilots! And we continue to smear something under the nose, so what?

[SAM 5]

We consider the actions of the Turkish Air Force as an unfriendly act.

Your mother, you have to blurt out this.

[sledge]

Recall the Russian ambassador from Turkey and expel Turkish from Russia! Close the departure of Russians to Turkey !!!

[ML-334]

It's time to show something like "Chebarkul meteorite". Creepy and clear.

[Noctis]

it's good that I'm not the president .... very good ... otherwise today everything is deep. contacts with Turkey would be cut off. the border with Turkey is closed, all migrant workers and other citizens of Turkey would go home. our embassy has been recalled. plus I would definitely say that everything. EVERYTHING! military aircraft flying from turkey to syria (the affiliation can be changed as the privateers once changed their flags) will be destroyed with no guarantee of the lives of the pilots. as well as nafig Turkish stream and other developments. by decree. so that the business cannot do anything. in the 19th century for THIS today a war with Turkey would begin. no options. And finally, I would have adopted the American Syrian version. "We are not against dialogue with Turkey, BUT! ERDOGAN should not be there!"

[Oleg14774]

Quote: Noctis

it's good that I'm not the president ...

And I am also very happy! We cooked porridge!

[ia-ai00]

... but that would be JUST!

[skurazhov]

Nehera almond! Declare war on the Turks! Let NATO shred in his pants! We will fight!

[nikpwolf]

Quote: skurazhov

Nehera almond! Declare war on the Turks! Let NATO shred in his pants! We will fight!

And you will have to fight with the whole pack. The Americans will hurry up, don't go to the fortuneteller. Already a couple of operational plans in the Pentagon have been procrastinating. Here's a gift then. And you will have to interrupt with your own blood. And that's what they need. Yes, we will also be declared the aggressors. And their electorate grabs it for a mile soul. The soil has long been ready. Remember the war with the "gallant" Georgians? How many of ours were killed outright? The bottom line? Russia attacked unfortunate Georgia. And made everyone chew their ties. Barbarians. You can't fight the Ottomans, but the Turkish-Syrian border, with all that is, polish to a dead zone (and fuck world opinion), and gently grind the Kurds (they'll have some money, but a bit of weapons), and Ramzan (call him the moderate Turkish opposition) take a walk there to release. I asked. And we really score on everything Turkish. This, I think, is possible. So somehow.

[da n ya 1914]

Probably soon we will hang a shield, the king of the city on the gates.

[Valter1364]

Let us remember our Falcons!

[KBR109]

If by reason, then it would be worthwhile to put weapons to the Kurds, including MANPADS. Well, and, if possible, to catch a couple of Turkish Eraplans over the territory of Syria.

[Junior, I]

why only over the territory of Syria? Near the Syrian border is preferable!

[dosyl]

Quote: Baikonur

Unfriendly act in 9: 30! now 19: 42! And where is the gap in diplomatic relations? Foreign Ministry notes? Convocation of the UN Security Council !?

Maybe sitting on the couch, you’ll declare war as well ?! Strategist. And you’ll go to it yourself? This is a provocation of mattresses, and it’s very tricky. What reaction will RUSSIA have on a NATO member.

[onix757]

Our power will rub off as usual. Because it was necessary at one time not to warm stools with Chubais, but to engage in industry. So we have a blown up bubble of ratings, propaganda and public relations instead of real power respected throughout the world.

[Gardamir]

Our power will rub off as usual.

most likely revenge on Turkey with a discount on gas.

[kergudu straight]

Dismantle the base from where these F-16s took off, so that other Turkish pilots first wondered if it was worth taking RUSSIAN airplanes in sight and what consequences it would lead to.

[AlexTires]

It is interesting what would happen to the Turks if they shot down an American plane like that ...
IMHO, Turkey alone would become smaller, and the survivors would live happily ever after in Guantanomo ... nits ...

[Hiw]

only cold counting and counting the countermeasures, of course, declaring war on it is not rational, but to say that we have launched a new air defense program that includes tracking and destroying all objects that are less than 300 km closer to Russian military aircraft located in Syria - this will be logical . It is also necessary to increase the presence of the VKS in the territory of Syria and increase the support group - helicopters, s-400 complexes, armor, contingent of airborne rapid reaction, additional forces of artillery and missile forces will not interfere. And of course, increase the intensity of strikes on objects of the silent business ig. This will be a blow to the kidney from which they don’t fall but cannot breathe

[Teplohod]

Yes, we may not even declare it, we have only been announced by actual actions

[Alexandr2637]

We consider the actions of the Turkish Air Force as an unfriendly act.

This is a real act of war, requiring an immediate response!

[Vadim237]

The answer will be a protest note of our Foreign Ministry, and then a quick drain of the whole situation to a complete settlement - remember the Ukrainian shelling of our border territory in 2014.

[Fonmeg]

It is known that a Turkish missile hit our plane at a time when it was a kilometer from the Syrian border with this country. The instantly flashed bomber flew about another three kilometers before it crashed to the ground. According to eyewitnesses, this time was enough for both crew members to safely leave the car. But, unfortunately, this happened over the area occupied by the so-called "moderate opposition." Namely, the “Syrian Free Army” (SSA).

Well, and what did these “moderate” do? So far, there is only a report from the Associated Press. According to the agency, the Russian pilots landed over the location of the "10th Coast Brigade" SSA. According to some reports, the militants of this brigade began to shoot from the ground in a dash to shoot the Russian military who were in a helpless position. According to the Associated Press, a certain Jahed Ahmad, one of the crew members of the bomber with this fire was killed before landing. The second is said to have been captured.

But there is another version of events. According to Reuters, referring to “one of the military leaders of the Syrian Turkmen,” his men were shot dead by both Russian officers after landing.

To mix these "moderates" with stones for the death of their comrades-in-arms is the task of the VKS! There are no good or bad terrorists. And to shoot down jackals from the adjacent side on the approach, warning them in 0,5 seconds!

[UVB]

There was such infa, I quote: "In Syria, the S-400, which is officially not there, was turned on. According to an informed source, the complex is" leading "all Turkish military fighters near the border with Syria.

There has not yet been an order to shoot down, but it can arrive at any second, as soon as Russia considers that Turkish fighters crossed the Syrian border for 5-10 seconds, the source said.

More detailed information is not yet available, but most likely Russia really activated air defense / missile defense systems against Turkish targets in order to secure the search mission. At the moment, it can be stated that the Turkish Air Force is regarded as hostile, which means that any entry into the affected area will be considered an attack and Turkish aircraft will be shot down. "

[Bogranz]

As far as I understand, the range is quite reachable so that the S-400 can control the Syrian-Turkish border. The only question is whether they are in Syria and whether they decide to use them in such situations.

[AKS-U]

it is very good. as well as an unmanned zone.

[arnulla]

This info was still in the afternoon

[1536]

That would be too good to be true!
Alas, judging by the reaction of our people, judging by how calmly they talk about 10 thousand of our tourists vacationing on the beaches of Turkey, as the "experts" loftily say about the "construction business" of Turks in Russia, Turkish fruits, leather and condoms, we must wait following downed planes and helicopters. Our planes and helicopters!
There is only one way out - to change the tactics of warfare in Syria and to destroy all life in the given territory where the terrorists settled, even if they are on the border with Turkey. No one will ever do this, and therefore all references to the C-300 and C-400 for the Turkish Air Force are just references. We need to think that it is possible to punish rabid dogs, but whether this will make them less.

[RuslanNN]

Quote: almamatkulov.79

Russian !!! Let's unite the Ankara tourism business! I never went to Muslim dogs, but now I won’t go too!

You are a Christian dog,. You know how many Muslims are in Russia. Jackals are in any religion and you are one of them.
And Erdogan will still be responsible for his actions.

[V.ic]

It started means ... My opinion: to raise the A-50 for the duration of the work on ISIS (all aircraft remaining in service)! EW to jam EVERYTHING on the air that would pose a potential threat. "Give a damn about the whole connection between" incirliks ​​"and other dog lovers of our" sworn friends "(the F-16 could well have been from there, and not far from the area where our Su-24 was shot down, by the way). Why not try using EMP weapons before flying. Quite real: they depicted the pre-flight bustle, taxiing, imitation of the group's takeoff, then a "carpet" and a small unmanned aerial vehicle at an altitude of 3-5 thousand meters initiates EMP. At least you can cover the takeoff of the group. Before the return of the group in 10 minutes, also detonate a couple of unmanned vehicles with EMP equipment, overlapping the zone of the fourth reversal. A dozen or so use of such weapons will burn out all the sensitive electronics of the "sworn friends".

[Alexander 3]

These are open hostilities. Although in Syria we can include anything we want Wait for the wonders of our diplomats.

[CadetXXX]

It's easier to drop Iskander on them