Bolsheviks saved the Russian civilization

November 7, 2015 715

Every year on November 7 in Russia is a memorable date - the Day of the October Revolution 1917 of the year. Until 1991, 7 November was the main holiday of the USSR and was called the Day of the Great October Socialist Revolution.

Throughout the existence of the Soviet Union (celebrated since 1918), November 7 was a “red calendar day”, that is, a public holiday. On this day, demonstrations of workers and military parades were held on Red Square in Moscow, as well as in the regional and regional centers of the USSR. The last military parade on Red Square in Moscow to commemorate the anniversary of the October Revolution was held in 1990 year. The celebration of November 7 as one of the most important public holidays was preserved in Russia until 2004, while from 1992, only one day was considered as a holiday - November 7 (in the USSR November was considered a holiday).

In 1995, the Day of Military Glory was established - the Day of the military parade on Red Square in Moscow to mark the twenty-fourth anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution (1941 year). In 1996, by decree of the President of the Russian Federation “in order to mitigate opposition and reconciliation of various segments of Russian society” was renamed the Day of Accord and Reconciliation. Since 2005, due to the establishment of a new national holiday - National Unity Day - November 7 has ceased to be a day off.

November 7 ceased to be a holiday, but was included in the list of memorable dates. Indeed, this day cannot be crossed out. stories Russia, since the uprising in Petrograd 25 — October 26 (7 — 8 November in a new style) led not only to the overthrow of the bourgeois Provisional Government, but also predetermined all further development of both Russia and all of humanity.

It must be remembered that by the fall of 1917, the liberal-bourgeois Provisional Government - the “Februaryists” who destroyed the Russian empire (although for some reason they like to call the Bolsheviks the culprits of this event) brought the Russian civilization and statehood to the brink of disaster. Not only national margins, but also regions within Russia themselves, such as Cossack autonomies, refused from the Russian state. The meager number of nationalists claimed power in Kiev and Little Russia. An autonomous government appeared in Siberia. The armed forces collapsed long before the Bolshevik coup and could not continue fighting. The army and navy from the pillars of order themselves have become sources of distemper and anarchy. The soldiers deserted thousands, carried off weapon (including machine guns and guns!). The front was falling apart, and the German army was no one to stop. Russia could not fulfill its duty to the Allies on the Entente. Finance and economics were disorganized, a single economic space was falling apart. Problems began with the supply of cities, harbingers of famine. The government, during the Russian Empire, began to conduct surplus transactions (again, the Bolsheviks were then accused of them).

The peasants saw that there was no power! For the peasants, the power was the anointed of God - the king and his support - the army. They began to self-seize the land and "revenge", manor estates burned hundreds. External open enemies and former "partners" began the division and seizure of Russian territories. At the same time, England, France and the United States claimed the most tasty morsels. In particular, the Americans with the help of Czechoslovak bayonets planned to stake out virtually all of Siberia and the Far East. The interim government, instead of proposing a goal, a program, and rescue a power by active and decisive action, postponed the decision of fundamental issues until the Constituent Assembly was convened.

It was a disaster! Russia in front of her eyes ceased to exist, turning into an ethnographic territory that they were going to “master” and completely solve the “Russian question”.

The country was covered by a wave of chaos, both controlled and spontaneous. Autocracy, which was the core of the empire, was crushed by the inner “fifth column”. "Fevralistami" - the great princes, degenerated aristocracy, generals, masons, Duma leaders, liberals, bankers and industrialists. In exchange, the inhabitants of the empire received "freedom." People felt free from all taxes, duties and laws. The Provisional Government, whose policies were determined by leaders of the liberal and left-wing sense, could not establish a viable order, moreover, their actions deepened chaos. It turned out that the figures oriented to the west (most of them were masons who obeyed the “elder brothers” from the West) continued to destroy Russia. In words, everything was beautiful and smooth, in fact - they were destroyers or “impotent” people who could only speak beautifully. Suffice it to recall the "democratization" of the army during the war (Order No. 1).

Liberal Democratic Petrograd de facto lost control of the country. The further power of the liberals led to the collapse of Russia into specific princedoms, with a mass of “independent” presidents, hetmans, atamans, khans and princes with their own talking parliaments, micro-armies and the administrative apparatus. All of these “states” inevitably fell under the authority of external forces — Britain, France, the USA, Japan, Turkey, etc. At the same time, many neighbors dug in on Russian lands. In particular, the Finnish radicals dreamed of "Great Finland" with the inclusion of Russian Karelia, the Kola Peninsula, and, with luck, lands up to the Northern Urals. Russian civilization and the people were threatened with complete destruction and disappearance from history.

However, there was a force that could take power and offer the people a viable project. These were the Bolsheviks. Until the summer of 1917, they were not considered a serious political force, yielding in popularity and strength to the cadets and the Social Revolutionaries. But by the fall of 1917, their popularity had grown. Their program was clear and understandable to the masses. The power in this period could take virtually any force that showed political will. This force became the Bolsheviks.

In August 1917, the Bolsheviks headed for an armed uprising and a socialist revolution. This happened at the VI Congress of the RSDLP (b). However, then the Bolshevik party was actually in the underground. The most revolutionary regiments of the Petrograd garrison were disbanded, and workers sympathizing with the Bolsheviks were disarmed. The opportunity to recreate armed structures appeared only during the Kornilov revolt. The plan for the uprising in the capital had to be postponed. Only 10 (23) October 1917. The Central Committee adopted a resolution on the preparation of an uprising. The 16 (29) of October, an enlarged meeting of the Central Committee, in which representatives of the districts took part, confirmed the earlier decision.

12 (25) in October 1917 of the year, the Petrograd Military Revolutionary Committee was established to defend the revolution from the “openly preparing attack of the military and civilian Kornilov” on the initiative of Petrograd Chairman of the Council of the Soviet Union Lev Trotsky. Not only the Bolsheviks, but also some left-wing Social Revolutionaries and anarchists entered the WRC. In fact, this body and coordinated the preparation of an armed uprising. He was formally headed by Pavel Lazimir, a left SR, but almost all decisions were made by the Bolsheviks Leo Trotsky, Nikolai Podvoisky and Vladimir Antonov-Ovseenko.

With the help of the WRC, the Bolsheviks established close ties with the soldiers' committees of the Petrograd garrison formations. In fact, the left forces restored the dual power in the city and began to establish their control over the military forces. When the Provisional Government decided to send the revolutionary regiments to the front, the Petrograd Soviet appointed an order check and decided that the order was dictated not by strategic, but by political motives. The regiments were ordered to remain in Petrograd. The commander of the military district prohibited issuing weapons to workers from the arsenals of the city and suburbs, but the Council issued warrants and issued weapons. The Petrograd Soviet also stopped the Provisional Government’s attempt to arm its supporters with the help of the Peter and Paul Fortress arsenal. Parts of the Petrograd garrison declared disobedience to the Provisional Government. October 21 held a meeting of representatives of the regiments of the garrison, who recognized the Petrograd Soviet as the sole legitimate authority in the city. From that moment on, the Military Revolutionary Committee began to appoint its commissars to military units, replacing commissars of the Provisional Government.

On the night of October 22, the Military Command requested the headquarters of the Petrograd Military District to recognize the authority of their commissars, and 22 declared its subordination to the garrison. October 23 The WRC obtained the right to create an advisory body at the headquarters of the Petrograd district. On the same day, Trotsky personally conducted an agitation in the Peter and Paul Fortress, where they still doubted which side to take. By October 24, the WRC appointed his commissars to the troops, as well as to arsenals, armories, railway stations and factories. In fact, by the beginning of the uprising, left forces had established military control over the capital. The Provisional Government was incapacitated and could not respond decisively.

Therefore, there was no serious clash and much blood, the Bolsheviks simply took power. The guards of the Provisional Government and the units loyal to them almost everywhere surrendered and went home. Shed their blood for the "temporary" no one wanted. From October 24, the units of the Petrograd Military Revolutionary Committee occupied all the key points of the city. The armed men simply occupied the key objects of the capital, and all this was done without a single shot, calmly and methodically. When the head of the Provisional Government, Kerensky ordered the arrest of members of the WRC, there was no one to execute the order of arrest. The interim government almost without a fight passed the country, although even before the revolution it had every opportunity to deal with active members of the Bolshevik Party. The fact that they haven’t even done anything to protect their last stronghold, the Winter Palace, speaks about the complete lack of talent and incompetence of the temporary worker: there were no combat-ready units, no ammunition or food was prepared.

By the morning of October 25 (November 7) the Interim Government in Petrograd had only the Winter Palace. By the end of the day, he was "defended" by the 200 women from the women's shock battalion, the 2-3 companies of bezusyh junkers and several dozen disabled people - St. George's knights. Protection began to disperse even before the assault. The Cossacks were the first to leave, then left on the orders of their chief junker of the Mikhailovsky Artillery School. So the defense of the Winter Palace lost its artillery. A part of the cadets of the Oranienbaum school is also gone. Therefore, the footage of the famous storming of the Winter Palace is a beautiful myth. The guards of the palace went home for the most part. The whole assault consisted in a flaccid exchange of fire. Its scale can be understood by casualties: six soldiers and one drummer were killed. At 2 in the morning of October 26 (November 8), members of the Provisional Government were arrested. Kerensky himself escaped in advance, drove away accompanied by the car of the American ambassador under the American flag (he was saved by overseas patrons).

It must be said that the Bolsheviks won almost the “shadow”. Later, a myth was created about the brilliant operation and the “heroic struggle” against the bourgeois. The main reason for the victory was the complete lack of talent and passivity of the Provisional Government. Almost all liberal figures could only speak beautifully. Decisive Kornilov, who was trying to establish at least some order, had already been eliminated. If a decisive dictator of the Suvorov or Napoleon type, with several attack units from the front, were in place of Kerensky, he would have easily dispersed the decomposed parts of the Petrograd garrison and the red partisan units.

In the evening of October 25, the II All-Russian Congress of Soviets opened in Smolny, which proclaimed the transfer of all power to the Soviets. October 26 The Council adopted a Decree on Peace. All belligerent countries were asked to begin negotiations on the conclusion of a universal democratic peace. The decree on the land passed landowner land to the peasants. All bowels, forests and waters nationalized. At the same time, a government was formed - the Council of People's Commissars headed by Vladimir Lenin.

Simultaneously with the uprising in Petrograd, the Moscow Council Revolutionary Committee took key points of the city under its control. It didn't go so smoothly here. The Public Security Committee under the chairman of the city duma Vadim Rudnev, with the support of the junkers and Cossacks, began military actions against the Council. The fighting continued until November 3, when the Public Security Committee capitulated.

In general, the Soviet government was established in the country easily and without much blood. The revolution was immediately supported in the Central Industrial District, where local Soviets of Workers' Deputies were actually in control of the situation. In the Baltics and Byelorussia, Soviet power was established in October - November 1917 of the year, and in the Central Chernozem region, the Volga region and Siberia - until the end of January 1918 of the year. These events are called "the triumphal march of the Soviet government." The process of the predominantly peaceful establishment of Soviet power throughout Russia was yet another proof of the complete degradation of the Provisional Government and the need to rescue the country with active and program-like force.

Subsequent events confirmed the correctness of the Bolsheviks. Russia was on the verge of death. The old project was destroyed, and only a new project could save Russia. He was given and the Bolsheviks. They did not destroy the "old Russia". The “fevralists” killed the Russian empire: the grand dukes, part of the generals, top dignitaries, aristocrats, bankers, industrialists, representatives of the liberal-democratic parties, many of whom were members of Masonic lodges, most of the intelligentsia who hated the “prison of nations.” In general, most of the "elite" of Russia with their own hands and destroyed the empire. It was these people who killed the “old Russia”.

The Bolsheviks did not save the "old Russia", it was doomed and fought in agony. They suggested that the people create a new reality, a civilization - a Soviet, more equitable one, where there will be no classes parasitizing the people. The Bolsheviks had all three necessary elements for the formation of a new reality, a project: an image of the future, a bright world; political will and energy, faith in one's victory (overpassionality); and organization.

The image of the future came to the liking of the greater part of the common people, since communism was inherent in Russian civilization, the people. Not for nothing, long before the revolution, many Russian, Christian-minded thinkers were at the same time supporters of socialism. Only socialism could be an alternative to parasitic capitalism (and at present, to a non-slave, neo-feudal system). Communism was on the priority of creation, labor and was against the exploitation of the people, parasitism. All this corresponded to the Russian "matrix". The Bolsheviks had the political will, energy and faith. They had an organization.

Modern liberals are trying to convince the people that October has become the "curse of Russia." They say that Russia has again moved away from Europe, and the history of the USSR is a complete disaster. In reality, the Bolsheviks were the only force that, after the death of the “old Russia” - the project of the Romanovs, tried to save the state and the people, create a new reality. The project, which will preserve the best that was in the past (Pushkin, Dostoevsky, Tolstoy, Alexander Nevsky, Dmitry Donskoy, Suvorov, Nakhimov, Kutuzov), and at the same time will be a breakthrough into the future, into a different fair, sunny civilization, without slavery and oppression, parasitism and obscurantism. If not for the Bolsheviks, the Russian civilization, most likely, would simply have died.

It is clear that not everything was smooth with the Bolsheviks. They had to act tough, even cruel. A significant part of the revolutionaries were internationalists (supporters of Trotsky and Sverdlov). Many of them were agents of Western influence. They were supposed to launch a “second wave” to destroy the Russian super-ethnos (Russian civilization). The “first wave” was the Februarylists-Masons. They viewed Russia as a sacrifice, a feeding trough, a base for the world revolution, which would lead to the establishment of the New World Order, the owners of which would be the “world backstage” (the “world international”). "World backstage" started a world war and organized a revolution in Russia. The owners of the United States and Britain planned to establish a global world order based on Marxism - a kind of global totalitarian concentration camp. Their weapons were revolutionary internationalists, Trotskyists.

First, they “cleared the field” - destroyed the old monarchical empire. The Russian, German, Austro-Hungarian and Ottoman empires fell as planned. Then they planned to conduct a series of "socialist" revolutions. Russia was planning to make the base of the world revolution, to use all its resources, the energy of the people, to sacrifice. The goal is a new world order based on phony communism (Marxism).

Therefore, part of the Bolshevik Party acted as an enemy of the Russian people. However, in Russia he gained a deeply popular, Russian component - the Bolshevik-Stalinists. It was they who showed such basic values for the Russian "matrix" as justice, primacy of truth over the law, of the spiritual principle over the material, in general over the particular. Their victory led to the construction of a separate "Russian socialism", the physical elimination of most of the "fifth column" (the Trotskyists-internationalists) and the unprecedented success of Soviet civilization.

Stalin and his associates dealt a terrible blow to the plans for building the New World Order (slavery on the basis of Marxism). The masters of the West had to rely on national socialism and fascism, create the project “Third Reich - Hitler”, setting it on the Red Empire, which built a new, sunny civilization, a society of creation and ministry. However, this is another story ...

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7 November 2015 17: 59

Betrayal and the Great Feat. - History of Russia in brief.
Evgeniy30

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7 November 2015 18: 17

Quote: jagdmesser
What did you explain to me? I haven’t received a sensible answer yet. I’ll ask in general terms. For you, is any revolution good or bad? And if, in your opinion, patriots came to power in 17, then who did Stalin shoot almost until the end of his life? I am hinting at Lenin’s guard of patriots and the hedgehog with them, although they also chopped up a lot of ordinary people.

Yes, I think I already explained this. And more than once. Do you read posts or just write all sorts of nonsense for the sake of writing something?
I repeat: No, not every revolution is good. Moreover, every change brings with it not always for the better. BUT: After the Russian Empire was essentially destroyed by the previous revolution, the October Revolution did not worsen, but subsequently improved the situation. Yes, there were excesses, and it was difficult, but it is not the Bolsheviks who are to blame for this, but those who allowed such a situation with the country before them. And, answering the second question (once again), the Bolsheviks are not something homogeneous, there were several movements. Open enemies, (Trotskyists) right-wingers, and left-wing extremes. But the main backbone is the patriots (the so-called Stalinists). Hence the internal party struggle and other resulting shortcomings.
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  7 November 2015 18: 31
  
  Well, you are already contradicting yourself and it turns out to be a bustle. First, your revolution is good, but now not every revolution is good, although, as for me, any revolution is not good at all, especially when there is a war going on. Now you still partially admit that it is not entirely did the patriots come to power?)))))Or will you still insist that in 17 the patriots came to power? After all, Stalin began the struggle for the country and power after the burry ghoul threw off his hooves, then only the struggle began within the country and parties practically until the very end of the war. Did the patriots rule until the 26th?
Evgeniy30

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7 November 2015 18: 25

Quote: jagdmesser
Yes, if it weren’t for your Lenin, you wouldn’t have had to consolidate anything at all, the war had already begun to be won at that moment, when you got a stab in the back from your good Lenin. The same thing with the Cold War, everything was going to the point that the Ovish system would collapse, and here another revolutionary appeared, marked, again the same rake. And again the Western world lives and feasts on our plunder. Our trouble is that we conquer ourselves, and no one is from outside. This someone from outside then comes and He uses everything we have, feasting on our corpses. Putin, by the way, did a great job for not breaking anything abruptly, but gradually. It’s better that there is something to redo, add, rebuild, than to break everything to the ground. All your revolutions are harm to the country !horses

What nonsense? A knife was thrust into the back of Russia, which was supposedly winning, BEFORE the Bolsheviks. How many times does this simple truth need to be explained to you? The Tsar was overthrown by his own generals in February 1917. And the provisional government did everything to ensure that Russia lost. So, what do Lenin and the Bolsheviks have to do with it? Lenin and the Bolsheviks (among them Stalin) came when the army had already collapsed, and the well-known order of Kerensky helped in this. What kind of Victory could we be talking about then?
Was it me or someone else who called for everything to fall apart? Only today's liberals in the government do this. And the Bolsheviks did not completely destroy anything,” but on the contrary, relying, among other things, on the tsarist potential, they built a great country.
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  7 November 2015 18: 44
  
  Again, you contradict yourself... It still means there was tsarist potential, otherwise everything was bad... I agree that the mechanism was launched earlier, but who did the deed? Wasn’t it Lenin and the patriots? Putin also came from Yeltsin and Co. and what do you think, too, that the country collapsed in 91? He simply took power into his own hands in time and at the right moment, when the oligarchs believed him, Stalin did the same thing, snatched power from your patriots who came to power...
Evgeniy30

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7 November 2015 18: 27

Quote: jagdmesser
You didn’t give me any arguments, other than personal beliefs and personal perception of something you read... And to my question above you still avoid answering... Well, of course I won’t draw any conclusions))), why))

I already answered a long time ago, open your eyes. And I gave quite specific arguments. If you can't see it, go to an ophthalmologist.
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  7 November 2015 18: 37
  
  It only seems to you that they answered. You shouldn’t pass off your beliefs as the truth, even though you believe in it. I don’t think I was being rude. That’s your whole essence and that’s how you like to jump...
LCA

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7 November 2015 18: 30

People! Well, it's time to decide on the terminology!

Marxism is the name of the ideological system and the resulting understanding of the laws of development of society and its prospects, given by the name of one of the founders (in general, erroneous, due to the evil intent of their founders.

Marxism (including its Trotskyist version, which prevails today in Marxist circles) is the same biblical satanic concept, but already in the forms of an atheistic worldview.

Bolshevism - something Russian that existed before Marxism, existed in Russian Marxism, somehow exists now and will continue to exist.

Bolshevism is a phenomenon of the spirit of Russian civilization. This time, the mission of Russia (Russian civilization) and Bolshevism will be to show the world the development of culture on the basis of sincere faith in God and dialogue with Him over the life of every person.

Marxism and communism are not the same thing. Stalin expressed Bolshevism.

This was in Russia before the Marxists-Trotskyists came to power in 1917, with whom the Bolsheviks of those years were unable to distinguish themselves ideologically.

There was a very specific slogan of the Kronstadt uprising (February 28 - March 18, 1921) “For the Soviets, but without communists!”, since the Trotskyists of that time - the Zionist-Internazis, the main party activist - still called themselves “communists” by the name of the party, and not by the pseudonym of his leader and idol. It would be more correct to say “For the Soviets without Marxists and biblical scholars!”, since

communism needs to be cleansed from Marxism, and the Teachings of Christ need to be cleansed from biblical abomination. And this slogan is relevant not only in Russia and today.
LCA

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7 November 2015 18: 37

The circumstance inherited by our era from the past is that for those who controlled global history, “Mraxism” was a means of eliminating the bourgeois-liberal way of life.

The dissatisfaction of the “world behind the scenes” (global predictor - GP) with bourgeois liberalism in that era was caused by the fact that it was he who initiated the race of uncontrolled consumption, in which natural resources and people's creative potential are grinded, which in the long run can destroy global civilization in biosphere-social ecological crisis.

At the same time, “Marxism” did not imply the construction of a society of social justice - socialism, but it dragged political forces into the construction of pseudo-socialism.

However, the Marxist project to replace bourgeois liberalism with pseudo-socialism did not solve this problem, since I.V. intervened in the GP plans Stalin, who, under the guise of "Marxism," began to implement an alternative global Bolshevik-socialist project.

As a result, on a global scale, a conflict arose between the management of more or less self-governing two socio-economic systems: bourgeois-liberal (West) and pseudo-socialist (USSR and other countries of the socialist bloc).
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LCA

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7 November 2015 18: 41

The discharge of the potential of suicide of global civilization was supposed in the project of convergence of the two opposing systems, which (at least since Herbert Wells visited Soviet Russia in 1920) has been developing both in terms of theoretical justification (starting from Pitirim Sorokin) and in terms of its promotion into real politics (F.D. Roosevelt, J.F. Kennedy, Yu.V. Andropov, M.S. Gorbachev).

The convergence project is focused on the unification of social management on a global scale and involves the construction of a socio-economic system that has the virtues of Marxist pseudo-socialism and capitalism based on the ideas of liberalism and, at the same time, free from their shortcomings.

Currently, this project is the basis of the State Enterprise policy, hidden from ordinary people, in relation to all countries and, in particular, in relation to their somewhat civilized part.

It was during the implementation of the convergence project at the first stage that Marxist pseudo-socialism was eliminated in the USSR and in other countries of the socialist camp under the leadership of the KGB of the USSR and the Central Committee of the CPSU.

And now, at the second stage, the next step is the liquidation of bourgeois liberalism. These circumstances are key to understanding the role of the KGB of the USSR and Yu.V. Andropov personally in the liquidation of the USSR and the world system of Marxist pseudo-socialism, as well as everything that is happening in post-Soviet Russia and in global politics.
LCA

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7 November 2015 18: 43

A natural question may arise: Why was the USSR with its pseudo-socialism, and not the USA, first liquidated? Indeed, in the countries of pseudo-socialism, the consumption race was condemned as a manifestation of "philistinism", unworthy of man, but consumption standards were still much lower than the consumption standards of the West, which was and remains the locomotive of the rampant consumption race?

The answer to this question is that the GP knew perfectly well what danger lies in the incomplete construction of pseudo-socialism due to the fault of JV Stalin, which, however, could not go on forever: sooner or later there would be people in the USSR who understood if there were a substantial difference between pseudo-socialism and socialism, they would expose the essence of “Marxism” and create a true theory of the construction of socialism, after which no “perestroika” in the USSR, and, therefore, its liquidation would be impossible.

That is, the USSR had to be destroyed before the construction of real socialism entered the stage of irreversibility. In other words, it’s all about the priorities of the danger for the GP, i.e. What is more difficult to suppress - the growing consumption race or the construction of a new society in which its intellectual and moral potential is more fully revealed?

The answer is obvious - building a new society.

For our contemporaries, the continuity of I.V.’s strategy is visible. Stalin and V.V. Putin, as well as the true reasons for the hysteria of Russian and Western bourgeois liberals:

What frightens them is not the very fact of V.V.’s 12-year stay. Putin is at the helm of Russian civilization, and the threat of turning the “manager they hired” into an autocrat expressing the interests of the development of Russian civilization, as a result of which the ship Russia will change the course prescribed to it by Western navigators to some of its own...
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  LCA (1) RU Yesterday, 18:41
  
  The discharge of the potential of suicide of global civilization was supposed in the project of convergence of the two opposing systems, which (at least since Herbert Wells visited Soviet Russia in 1920) has been developing both in terms of theoretical justification (starting from Pitirim Sorokin) and in terms of its promotion into real politics (F.D. Roosevelt, J.F. Kennedy, Yu.V. Andropov, M.S. Gorbachev).
  
  Welcome all!
  
  Sergey completely agrees with you!
  In your 3 comments you described the CONTINUOUS GUIDANCE of the world through politicians and political parties, the processes of persons from the GP (global predictors).
  
  Most of our forum members, and citizens in different countries of the world, give their likes and dislikes to politicians and various political prostitutes,
  without asking yourself a SIMPLE question,
  - WHOSE INTERESTS or INSTRUCTIONS are simply carried out by all these politicians, presidents, prime ministers, jesters and other “puppets on strings” that people pull behind the beautiful stage and the attention of the media, journalists in all countries of the world?
  
  After all, even asking the questions you, Sergey, described, is considered blasphemous, treasonous in relation to national interests and other spitting on people who asked a simple question (from ancient Rome)
  - WHO DOES THIS BENEFIT?
  
  Yes, it is difficult, difficult, and even more so to think and look ahead and around the corner, and even more so when the entire MACHINERY OF THE MEDIA in ANY COUNTRY in the world is aimed at COMPLETELY DUMPING its citizens-taxpayers, who actually pay for all the whims and the BEAUTIFUL FAT LIFE of the leadership of their countries, their political elites, oligarchs, financiers and other “visible and hidden LEADING TRASH”...
  
  Indeed, in Russia and the CIS, the majority of ordinary people will discuss or envy the new yachts of Abramovich, "Kherovich" and other oligarchs - "temporary managers" of the capital of the USSR, the Central Committee of the CPSU with the permission of the Comrades and the xxx-Committee,
  without even asking the former and CURRENT LEADERS OF ALL CIS countries where the capital, currencies, foreign accounts of the USSR actually went,
  Acquired by the entire SOVIET PEOPLE and managed by the Central Committee of the CPSU, the KGB and other institutions?
  
  There are many similar questions about the essence of past events (70-80 and 90s of the 30th century), but even today, XNUMX years after the start of the so-called PERESTROIKA, JUST asking them out loud is NOT COMPLETELY SAFE for the questioner...
  
  Why is this so, just think FIRST and don’t immediately tear your vest on your chest in a drunken “hurray-nationalist frenzy”, blaming the few members of the forum for daring to ASK a very INCONVENIENT and DANGEROUS question about OUR COMMON HISTORY of all of us citizens of the USSR!
  
  And why, according to inquisitive and distrustful forum members, is it worth KNOWING YOUR REAL HISTORY,
  so this is simply because HISTORY ("corrupt girl") does not know how to do anything more than "simply repeat itself"
  and then HOW the USSR was torn apart in 1985-1991 (and the preparation itself was carried out from the mid-70s by the “rotten elite” of the KGB in collaboration with the American special services),
  in today's still distant years 2020, 2025 or 2030,
  the new LEADERS of the country can simply REPEAT while Russia itself has collapsed!
  
  But here, insults from jingoistic patriots, quick assessments and SPITING on all those who disagree “with the opinion of the PATRIOTIC MAJORITY” can play a disservice to MOTHER RUSSIA herself!
  
  Michael, Smolensk / Chita.
Evgeniy30

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7 November 2015 18: 43

Quote: jagdmesser
Well, you are already contradicting yourself and it turns out to be a bustle. First, your revolution is good, but now not every revolution is good, although, as for me, any revolution is not good at all, especially when there is a war going on. Now you still partially admit that it is not entirely did the patriots come to power?)))))Or will you still insist that in 17 the patriots came to power? After all, Stalin began the struggle for the country and power after the burry ghoul threw off his hooves, then only the struggle began within the country and parties practically until the very end of the war. Did the patriots rule until the 26th?

Eprst! Yes Do you read the posts or not? I say almost the same thing from post to post. I initially did not say that ALL Bolsheviks are patriots. No need to distort my words. There are no changes in times of turmoil, and the third revolution will be such that only patriots will take part in the revolutionary movement. On the contrary, I said, and I insist on this, that the main backbone was precisely the partisans. I also did not say that all revolutions are positive. The main thing is what a particular revolution brings after itself. And even if everything was good in the country, a strong government, no revolution would be possible. It’s hard for me to imagine that Peter 1 or Ivan 4 would have been arrested. They made the revolution THEMSELVES. Revolution from above. Dramatic changes in the country, you know, are sometimes brewing. And if the government is unable to see this and react, for example, engages in educational programs, then this government collapses.
Evgeniy30

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7 November 2015 18: 46

Quote: jagdmesser
It only seems to you that they answered. You shouldn’t pass off your beliefs as the truth, even though you believe in it. I don’t think I was being rude. That’s your whole essence and that’s how you like to jump...

My beliefs? I seemed to name specific facts, what do beliefs have to do with it? If beliefs are based on facts, it's kind of like reality.... I wasn't being rude. When I'm rude it looks different. It just feels like you are not reading what is written.
LCA

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7 November 2015 18: 51

The Bolsheviks are not Marxists. The Bolsheviks - spokesmen for the strategic interests of the development of the working majority of the population of Russian civilization, and as such existed long before the advent of Marxism, at least since the time of S.T. Razin.

But in the pre-revolutionary period they did not have their own sociological science and were led to Marxism.

And now the Bolsheviks (Russian civilization) have their own sociological science - KOB (Concept of Public Security) - and this is the difference today.

This is the One Testament of God, which is to live according to the Truth of God, purified from tyranny and ad-libbing that has accumulated in various cults.

This is an alternative - comprehensive sociological doctrine of a global level of significance to the biblical project and the crowd - "elitism" in its other modifications, developed by a public initiative calling itself the USSR VP (USSR Internal Predictor).

Or in other words - the Big Idea that everyone is talking about, talking about ... and doing nothing. But it has already been developed and is being distributed. But the media ignore her. In short, what is the Idea: it's time to become human.

More about this, and not only on the website www.vodaspb.ru

20.11.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX President V.V. Putin approved the BER (Public Security Concept) in the Russian Federation.
http://news.kremlin.ru/acts

The preparation and holding of parliamentary hearings of the KOB in the Duma took place on November 28.11.1995, XNUMX, and now it will be the second year since the President approved it, although rather it can only be called as announced (it needs to be filled with content).
Evgeniy30

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7 November 2015 19: 04

Quote: jagdmesser
Again, you contradict yourself... It still means there was tsarist potential, otherwise everything was bad... I agree that the mechanism was launched earlier, but who did the deed? Wasn’t it Lenin and the patriots? Putin also came from Yeltsin and Co. and what do you think, too, that the country collapsed in 91? He simply took power into his own hands in time and at the right moment, when the oligarchs believed him, Stalin did the same thing, snatched power from your patriots who came to power...

No, I don’t contradict. There is always potential. Another thing is that it was low compared to other countries. But as they say, what are they rich in? Russia, and this is a fact, was the most backward country in Europe, in terms of industry, in terms of literacy, etc.
With this I was responding to a specific accusation against the Bolsheviks that they allegedly sought to destroy everything. In fact, no, they also used the potential that they received from monarchical Russia. What does Putin have to do with it? Your comparison is completely off topic. Putin, unlike Stalin, had nothing to do with the previous “revolutionaries”. But in many ways it continues its destructive domestic policy, having in the government all sorts of Medvedevs, Livanovs, Serdyukovs, Skrynnik, Ulyukaevs, etc. Stalin himself was a revolutionary, like many other patriots, and participated in the pre-revolutionary underground movement.
The Februaryists accomplished the matter before Lenin; the Bolsheviks had already arrived when the country essentially no longer existed. I wonder who paid Lenin for GOERLO, educational program, etc. The British? Then why did they, together with other “partners,” intervene and impose an economic embargo on Soviet Russia?
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  7 November 2015 19: 28
  
  Okay? Low. Wasn’t it because of the strengthening and strengthening of Russia that revolutions and wars began to stir up? There was just a wonderful start to get far ahead. Then your Lenin came. Just when they began to rearm and somehow raise the country, 41 struck -year. Then again 91st. And the spiritual core of Tsarist Russia, on which Soviet power essentially rested, was not yet touched, until 70 years of atheistic propaganda fucked up the brains. And what was left after? They hammered in new ideas instead of God, as a result, the ideas rotted, your own communists themselves destroyed your country in 91 and now your heads are filled with Western values. Wonderful... I asked about Putin for a reason to understand how you think, but I see your head is full of one-sided information and one-sided beliefs, if you do not understand or do not want to understand what is happening now, then there is no point in further conversation, especially about the past.
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    Sorry, I'll interfere. What's happening now?
oh084

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7 November 2015 19: 17

In any case, the country was great and it was great to live in it!!! I am a Witness!!!
Evgeniy30

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7 November 2015 19: 40

Quote: jagdmesser
Okay? Low. Wasn’t it because of the strengthening and strengthening of Russia that revolutions and wars began to stir up? There was just a wonderful start to get far ahead. Then your Lenin came. Just when they began to rearm and somehow raise the country, 41 struck -year. Then again 91st. And the spiritual core of Tsarist Russia, on which Soviet power essentially rested, was not yet touched, until 70 years of atheistic propaganda fucked up the brains. And what was left after? They hammered in new ideas instead of God, as a result, the ideas rotted, your own communists themselves destroyed your country in 91 and now your heads are filled with Western values. Wonderful... I asked about Putin for a reason to understand how you think, but I see your head is full of one-sided information and one-sided beliefs, if you do not understand or do not want to understand what is happening now, then there is no point in further conversation, especially about the past.
What kind of enhancement are we talking about? Just look at the statistics, what place Russia occupied among the countries that participated in the First World War. How many military products were produced, at what price. And the same statistics on raw materials. That's the problem, there was no rise. And Lenin, I repeat for the hundredth time, came when the Empire did not exist. And the provisional government was rapidly destroying the already flimsy inclinations of the country. About Putin, my thoughts, and what is happening today, excuse me, this is far-fetched. As for the “communists” who destroyed the USSR: If a person is a member of the party, this does not mean that he is a communist.
KUOLEMA

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7 November 2015 19: 53

Quote: VseDoFeNi
And think about a simple question - WHY did the Bolsheviks destroy the Russian fleet?

And I thought that the fleet was destroyed by the Japanese, so I'm a mug
Robert Nevsky

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7 November 2015 20: 14

100% agree with the Author!
Koshchei

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7 November 2015 20: 41

Judging by the number of comments, I see that “the ashes of Klaas are still knocking on the chest” of my compatriots, but it’s different for everyone. I think we can reconcile society regarding the Russian revolutions if we work with wording and dating. Let's look at French history. The Great French Revolution: 1789-1794 (this is in accordance with Soviet historiography, I met the end years of -1796: -1799; -1804 and even -1814, what a revolution, a quarter of a century!) We shredded revolutions like cabbage... We must follow the path of consolidation. I think the term “Great Russian Revolution” should be introduced and limited to the following dates: January 9, 1905 (“Bloody Sunday”) - December 30, 1922 (formation of the Soviet Union) It was during this period that the revolutionary, radical transformation of the Russian Empire took place. Why abandon the "October Socialist..."? It’s just that if we consider “February” to be a bourgeois-democratic month, then its tasks were not completed in six months, and no one canceled their decision. Our country successfully solved these problems... by the beginning of the 60s, when the satellite was launched... Only, within the framework of communist mythology, which inspired the Soviet people to all achievements, it was impossible to say: “Let's push ourselves, guys, and build a state capitalism, and then..." It is also impossible to talk about October as a Bolshevik revolution, because there were several Bolshevik revolutions. I know of at least three: October 17; January 18 - dispersal of the Constituent Assembly; July 18 - the so-called Left Socialist Revolutionary rebellion, as a result of which the Bolsheviks were the only party in power...
In general, I agree with the author of the post: the Bolsheviks turned out to be the only force that was not afraid to take responsibility for state power; they had the will to retain it (despite the fact that before that they acted as anti-state fringes). This allowed Russia to maintain its independence and statehood
rus-5819

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7 November 2015 20: 47

November 7 has ceased to be a holiday

This is who knows.
We celebrated this holiday today with great enthusiasm. And most importantly, we reconciled with our opponents and found a consensus with them. Glory to Russia!!!
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  7 November 2015 22: 39
  
  Glory to Russia!! For the unity of the Russian People!
pilot bin-bom

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7 November 2015 21: 11

Comrade Lenin said that if ninety percent of Russians die, he will consider this a justifiable victim in the name of the victory of world communism.
So the question is, did anyone read Levashov's book “Curved Mirrors”? And what is most interesting - not a single Jew could refute this work. By the way, each page gives a link to a reliable literary source.
So excerpt from the book:
So why is the revolution in Russia called the Great Russian Revolution, if it was theoretically justified by the Jews, they were practically brought to life with money, again, mainly, American Jews? The last part of this money - twenty million dollars, was delivered to Russia in August 1917 by a Jew of nationality born in the Russian Empire, an American citizen - Lev (Leiba) Trotsky (Bronstein). It was with this enormous money, at that time, for American gold of the “ally” of Russia, PERSONS OF JEWISH NATIONALITY HIRED LATSKY SHOOTERS, CHINESE CRIMINALS, WHICH TOGETHER WITH JEWISH MILITERS DONE THE GREAT GREAT. At the same time, overthrowing the Provisional Government, again led by the Jew Kerensky. So, what is Russian in all this except the name?
After the victory of the “Great Russian Revolution” and the destruction of the color of the Russian nation, the new JUDIAN RULERS artificially starved TWENTY MILLION PEASANTS. In addition, the strong peasant was DECLARED A FIST and... another FIVE MILLION people were suddenly completely robbed and thrown out of their homes and, with what they were wearing, they were sent to Siberia. These “voluntary migrants” were sent to live not in ready-made cottages in comfortable settlements, but in nature, in an open field, or rather in the virgin taiga.
1. E. Sutton, “Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution.” ISBN: 978-5-98404-008-2 (“Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution” by Antony C. Sutton, 1974, Buccaneer Book, Inc., Cutchogue, NY, ISBN 0-89968-324-X).
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  7 November 2015 22: 37
  
  I read. Interesting book. She was banned. Because there is nothing to object to.
Rivares

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7 November 2015 21: 53

“The Bolsheviks saved Russian civilization” - from whom??? Probably from the Russians.
Evgeniy30

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7 November 2015 21: 56

Quote: Rivares
“The Bolsheviks saved Russian civilization” - from whom??? Probably from the Russians.

No, from colonization by Western “partners”. For example.....
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  7 November 2015 22: 35
  
  Quote: Eugene30
  No, from colonization by Western “partners”. For example.....
  
  So this already happened after they saved Russian civilization from the Russians)))
pilot bin-bom

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7 November 2015 23: 17

Quote: Eugene30
Quote: Rivares
“The Bolsheviks saved Russian civilization” - from whom??? Probably from the Russians.

No, from colonization by Western “partners”. For example.....

Colonization you say - then please explain what the Hamer Foundation is? Yes, the same one according to which the Bolsheviks paid their American masters for loans for the Jewish coup in Russia.
His

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8 November 2015 00: 36

Why did the story give in to you? You didn't do it. 100 years will pass and see what your descendants will say about 2017.
Here in Egypt there was Tutankhamun, so the Egyptians should hang themselves. Life is a moment, and what you prioritize is what your story will be.
During the Soviet period, Russia has achieved as much in its existence as the development of Russia before this period. She defeated Europe, sent a man into space, created a completely different society of people of the future (though it’s too early). Capitalism will still become obsolete, no matter how much you grab.
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  9 November 2015 21: 52
  
  The Soviet period was different. Comparing the time of the Jewish All-Russian Central Executive Committee and the time of Stalin is like comparing the time of E.B.N. and Putin's time. - The difference is huge. You don't seem to understand this.
Mareman Vasilich

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8 November 2015 03: 15

Quote: VseDoFeNi
Celebrate rebellion during the war, that is, treacherous actions against their country.

The result of the seventy years of activity of the Communists was the dismemberment of the great country into 15 parts, the destruction of CMEA and the Warsaw Treaty, whose countries joined the orderly ranks of NATO, moving it close to our borders.

I agree, all the morons say that.
Aleksiy

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8 November 2015 06: 09

“In reality, the Bolsheviks turned out to be the only force that, after the death of “old Russia” - the Romanov project, tried to save the state and people, create a new reality - this reality was felt by millions of Russian people, just like the genocide of the peasants of the Tambov province, the mass executions of especially cruelty of White Army soldiers and sympathizers in Crimea, terror against Orthodoxy and the entire Russian people. It’s worth reading the book “The Sun of the Dead” by Ivan Shmelev, get a feel for that time, the great geovolutionaries, the saviors. It’s worth thinking: why do the idiot liberals in the media vilify Stalin so much in vain, AND NOT A WORD ABOUT Lenin? The USSR of the 20s, 40s, and 60s are not at all the same thing. Those who destroyed the Russian Empire and the USSR are criminals and enemies of the Russian people.
karal

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8 November 2015 10: 29

Year 17 is just around the corner!
Denis Skiff

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8 November 2015 10: 32

Author: Alexander Samsonov, give us more articles like this, more, more!
Starley from the south

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8 November 2015 12: 43

The author may be right to a greater extent than he himself thinks. The Bolsheviks, of course, were not angels, for many of them the gallows cried, but... But the liberals from the Provisional Government (analogue of today's liberals) were much worse. We must keep this in mind when we go to the polls. We must remember what the liberals in power brought to our country.
Denis Skiff

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8 November 2015 14: 40

Quote: Eugene30
Quote: Cap.Morgan
Among the memorable dates in Russia, 4 of November (Unity Day) and 7 of November (Day of the 1941 parade) are celebrated.
There is no such date as October Revolution Day in Russia.

They made me laugh. The day of so-called unity has been made up out of thin air in order to be consigned to oblivion on November 7th. There is no unity in society and is not expected. Especially in light of the slinging of mud at our Soviet past. So it’s not clear to me what you’re “celebrating.” As for the parade, I think you are aware that the notorious parade in 1941 was dedicated to the Day of the Great October Socialist Revolution. Again, liberals in the government are trying to distort the true meaning of November 7 and silence the reason for which the parade was held in 1941.

You, as an unchrist, cannot understand. you forgot what country you live in
Kurkin

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8 November 2015 18: 07

Just the title alone made me feel bad. Well, after reading it, it became clear that the clinic was crying for the author. The Bolsheviks are the guys who organized the Red Terror, surplus appropriation, lost the 1st World War, distributed a bunch of territories of the Republic of Ingushetia, created Ukraine and Belarus, thereby dividing the united Russian people into 3 separate but fraternal types. The first government of the RSFSR, out of 20 people's commissars, included 18 Jews, 1 Georgian and 1 Armenian.
https://youtu.be/PLve_jvvtkw
AntonR7

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8 November 2015 18: 55

The title of the article is ridiculous. The Bolsheviks destroyed thousand-year-old traditions, the Russian ceased to be the master of his land, national states appeared within the country (preconditions for separatism). And there is no need to talk about their merits in the 2nd World War and after, if it weren’t for them, we won the 1st and there was no devastation of the civil war, which means our development would have gone faster. Yes, the liberals of February are also to blame, but the Bolsheviks are no less guilty; they dispersed the constituent assembly and did not allow the people to express their will about the future of the country.
yehat

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8 November 2015 19: 06

It was not the Februaryists who destroyed the country, they simply recorded the destruction
The weak-willed rule of Nicholas II destroyed the country
on the one hand, there is no desire to delve deeply into the life of the state and no desire to take responsibility in complex issues, such as the agrarian reform carried out by Stolypin or the supply of the army
On the other hand, an unsuccessful flirtation with the elite - the nobility and the rich, they simply profited from the state, ignoring their role in its life. And so on. Failures are literally everywhere in diplomacy.
As a result, serious unrest began, which ultimately tore the country apart
the Russian-Japanese War, World War I, events in China and Korea, unsuccessful behind-the-scenes struggles, serious problems with the economy and the national idea, literally everything screamed that something needed to be changed, but Nicholas 2 in fact was inactive, he turned out to be incapable even maintain the current state of the country after his predecessor Alexander 3.
Meanwhile, Nicholas 2 had someone to rely on; some of these people after the revolution greatly helped restore the country - these were industrialists, officers, a significant class of officials (where not everyone was pathological thieves), and a growing layer of engineers, etc. specialists.
The Bolsheviks played their role in the restoration of the country, but do not forget what it cost - a reduction in the population on the territory of the former empire by about 25 million, a pause in the creation of wealth and living standards for the population for about 50 years, enormous destruction, loss of values on a gigantic scale, loss of colonies - for example, in Australia and China.
ser86

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8 November 2015 19: 11

Quote: Enot-poloskun
On the occasion of the Great October Socialist Revolution, comrades!

It was an event! An event that turned world history upside down.

I am for the return of the holiday on November 7th. Why is France celebrating the anniversary of the Great French Revolution on July 14? And we have...

because the revolution in France did not lead to the Gulag and executions in 37
AID.S

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8 November 2015 19: 16

Quote: VseDoFeNi
The result of the REVISION of the seventy-year activities of the communists was the dismemberment of the great country into 15 parts, the destruction of the CMEA and the Warsaw Pact, the countries of which joined the orderly ranks of NATO, moving it close to our borders.

Add just one word to your phrase and I agree with you.
DPN

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8 November 2015 20: 16

In Soviet times, they taught MAN TO MAN IS A FRIEND, it’s a pity that nothing came of this - the animal cannot be eradicated from a person. In general, the Soviet man committed a stupidity by placing capitalists - oligarchs - on his shoulders, destroying his country - the USSR.
Xnumx vis

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8 November 2015 20: 20

Lenin wrote that “... if for the cause of communism it is necessary to destroy 9/10 of the entire people, then the Bolsheviks should not think for a minute.”
Collected Works of Lenin, volume 11, page 702. “And to the Caucasus, regarding the destruction of the Cossacks, Lenin periodically sent telegrams with the following content: “We will slaughter everyone.”
Remember how Trotsky and Sverdlov destroyed the Russian Cossacks? Lenin did not stand aside then. Now an official telegram from the leader to Frunze has been found regarding the “total extermination of the Cossacks.”
And this famous letter from Dzerzhinsky to the leader dated December 19, 1919 about about a million Cossacks being held captive? Lenin then imposed a resolution on him: “Shoot every last one” to the Chairman of the Cheka, Comrade. Dzerzhinsky F.E.

NOTE
In accordance with the decision of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee and the Council. Nar. The commissars need to put an end to priests and religion as quickly as possible. Popovs should be arrested as counter-revolutionaries and saboteurs, and shot mercilessly and everywhere. And as much as possible. Churches are subject to closure. The premises of the temples should be sealed and turned into warehouses. Chairman of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee Kalinin, Chairman of the Council. Nar. Commissars Ulyanov (Lenin)".

Ordering to treat the Doukhobors, Mennonites, and all sects with “arch-kindness,” Lenin, at the same time, with all his characteristic energy, sought to implement his utopian chimera: to unite, first of all, against England and other Entente countries, the world working class and Islam: “Let Victorious revolutionary Muslim warriors are rushing towards Russia like fiery lava.”
Apparently this is the only case in the history of mankind when the head of the Soviet government, despite the resistance of a number of comrades-in-arms, sought to permanently transfer part of the state he led - the ancient capital of Armenia, the city of Kars with its environs and Mount Ararat to the neighboring country - Turkey, which found itself during the First World War in the camp of our enemies and the vanquished. Consider, for example, Lenin’s recently published proposal to the Emir of Afghanistan Amanullah Khan: “We have proposed to your ambassador and ordered our Turkestan authorities to form a mixed commission to correct the Russian-Afghan border in the sense of expanding Afghan territory...”. Just like that and without any conditions!http://samlib.ru/b/botow_igorx_pawlovich/krowawyeidolynerusskojrewoljuci
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  Very very informative. The author of the commentary even included a page (apparently in the expectation that “fighters for the truth” like him would take his word for it. But bad luck, the 11th volume contains only over five hundred pages. And it’s so convincing.
DPN

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8 November 2015 20: 23

I can’t understand how we celebrate the 1941 parade by hiding the MAUSOLEUM and STALIN, Red Square without the mausoleum is just a cobblestone street.
Dad Uassia

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8 November 2015 20: 49

Quote: VseDoFeNi
Quote: Igor39
What to celebrate?

Celebrate rebellion during the war, that is, treacherous actions against their country.

The result of the seventy years of activity of the Communists was the dismemberment of the great country into 15 parts, the destruction of CMEA and the Warsaw Treaty, whose countries joined the orderly ranks of NATO, moving it close to our borders.

And who betrayed the country at the most crucial moment for the country, overthrowing a strong monarchy? Who destroyed the army with his order No. 1?
sergo1914

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9 November 2015 08: 55

Quote: Kurkin
Just the title alone made me feel bad. Well, after reading it, it became clear that the clinic was crying for the author. The Bolsheviks are the guys who organized the Red Terror, surplus appropriation, lost the 1st World War, distributed a bunch of territories of the Republic of Ingushetia, created Ukraine and Belarus, thereby dividing the united Russian people into 3 separate but fraternal types. The first government of the RSFSR, out of 20 people's commissars, included 18 Jews, 1 Georgian and 1 Armenian.
https://youtu.be/PLve_jvvtkw

1) The surplus appropriation system was not organized by the Bolsheviks
2) The Red Terror was a response to the White Terror. The Bolsheviks RELEASED their opponents on parole from prison.
3) Who distributed what when? Are you out of your mind? Have you seen the borders of the USSR?
sergo1914

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9 November 2015 08: 58

Quote: Dad Wassia
Quote: VseDoFeNi
Quote: Igor39
What to celebrate?

Celebrate rebellion during the war, that is, treacherous actions against their country.

The result of the seventy years of activity of the Communists was the dismemberment of the great country into 15 parts, the destruction of CMEA and the Warsaw Treaty, whose countries joined the orderly ranks of NATO, moving it close to our borders.

And who betrayed the country at the most crucial moment for the country, overthrowing a strong monarchy? Who destroyed the army with his order No. 1?

They think that the Tsar was overthrown by Lenin and Stalin. And the author of order No. 1 is Trotsky. And the Grand Dukes did not wear red bows in March 17.
Lenin returned to Russia in APRIL 1917. Gentlemen "monarchists", remember this date.
Hort

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9 November 2015 09: 44

found rescuers
MindCleaner

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9 November 2015 09: 51

70 years of Bolshevik rule greatly undermined the vitality of 1000 years of Russian civilization.
Buffalo

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9 November 2015 12: 24

Only crazy people can celebrate the anniversary of the red bloody coup, which resulted in huge casualties among Russian citizens (according to some estimates, up to 16 million people). The coup was led by Jews such as Trotsky, Lenin, and the like. They were Russophobes and sadists, the same as those who are fighting today under yellow-black flags in the Donbass.
This coup set Russia back for decades. And if not for Stalin’s rise to power, Russia would have been dismembered and destroyed.
Stalnov I.P.

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9 November 2015 14: 06

HAPPY BELATED HOLIDAY! HAPPY DAY OF THE GREAT OCTOBER SOCIALIST REVOLUTION!!! You know that I am glad that our government has already built COMMUNISM for a certain group of people, both in economic, political, and criminal procedural terms, I am glad for them, here is a confirmation of the correctness of the teachings of MARX-ENGELS-LENIN. Why are they so angry, because they themselves can’t create anything great in a philosophical, economic, political sense, the economic state of the country is a small example for the authorities and political “elites” - 23 million citizens of RUSSIA live below the poverty line , then many other facts can be cited that are simply difficult. So the day of unity raises the question of who to unite with, with corrupt officials, or with those for whom “communism” has already been created, or with the oligarchs who grabbed state property in the 90s, even the authorities themselves admit this. Maybe with the rotten eggs of the government - an economic bloc that only knows how to divide and saw, or with the Kremlin which is not interested, this is not within its competence, this is the business of others, etc., according to Peskov. Well, at least they are still doing something wisely in foreign policy. About Nikolashka, whom our government simply elevated to the rank of a national x-hero, as one smart person said in an interview with one of our central newspapers, he was a weak ruler, he could not rule such a gigantic country, he was constantly late, so he was late, and even though others they know, and many remember, the execution of a peaceful demonstration on January 9, 1905, as well as the number of people executed and hanged along the Trans-Siberian Railway, according to various sources, from 6 to 9 thousand people, the Lena execution - 00 people, it’s not for nothing that after his coronation he received the nickname BLOODY like this and carried this stamp all his life, for some reason our historians who now love to show off in the media and TV have forgotten this, although under Soviet power they remembered it well, how LENIN called such people - political prostitutes, how many of them divorced us not only in historical science, but also in politics and power. And with the gratitude of the district Komsomol committee, I keep my Komsomol card at home, as well as my PARTY CARD and I’m proud of it, unlike some communists, it’s clear which ones.
Grey47

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9 November 2015 15: 40

Quote: 30 vis
Collected Works of Lenin, volume 11, page 702

I tried to open it myself, I was already tired of such balabolism. For twenty years the bourgeoisie have been in power, what has been done, what have you achieved, you still have not surpassed the gross product of the Soviet Union per capita, and the retirement age has not yet been increased, this is a clear achievement.
Belousov

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9 November 2015 16: 36

What other civilization did the Bolsheviks save?!? Their goal was to destroy the Russian Empire. And these traitors, who existed first with the money of the British, then cleverly restructured with the money of the Kaiser, fulfilled this goal, and then simply seized power. And in general, Jews, and this nationality was very widely represented in the ranks of the Bolshevik leadership, are saving Russian civilization?!? Well, this is how current officials “fight” against corruption. They fight so hard that the hari gets wider and wider.
pomor23

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9 November 2015 17: 22

Usually, when reading articles on the site, I do not leave my comments, since in most cases I consider them useless and time-consuming, but after reading the title of this article, “The Bolsheviks saved Russian civilization,” I decided to deviate from my rules, as I was and still I'm in real shock! The author's cynicism and his blind faith in the “good” Bolsheviks are striking. I, as a person who has been studying for myself for several years now the history of the fall of the Russian Empire and the terrible and unprecedented in scale, cruelty and consequences of the civil war that followed, I want to tell the author that he cannot even imagine how much he and his loved ones, like all of us living today, were lucky not to be born in the era of these “good” Bolsheviks!
THE Bolsheviks SAVED THE RUSSIAN CIVILIZATION?! In my opinion, either a crazy person or a person who has no idea about the history of Russia during this period can say this! Making such statements, one can also easily say that the same Americans SAVED the Indian civilization, or Adolf Hitler did everything possible to SAVE THE ANCIENT ARYAN CIVILIZATION! I want to responsibly declare to the author that the Bolsheviks not only did not save the RUSSIAN CIVILIZATION, they made every effort to destroy it!!! Yes, destroy everything Russian in this part of the territory, destroy everything to the ground, turn Russians into slaves, burn and wipe out the RUSSIAN CIVILIZATION from the face of the earth. And in their zeal they surpassed both the Tatar-Mongol yoke and the dog knights. I would like to remind the author and all those who raise a glass to November 7 that it was the Bolsheviks who were the worms who, taking advantage of the inability of the Februaryists to govern a huge country, did everything in their power to completely disintegrate all state institutions and plunge the country into grave horror and constant chaos. Back in 1915, Lenin, sitting in well-fed Switzerland, put forward the thesis of transforming the imperialist war into a civil war, which was successfully done from 15 to 22 years. The results of the implementation of this thesis were that the country was deprived of its legitimate victory in the First World War, the humiliating Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, millions in indemnities from the losing Germany, the loss of vast territories in which hundreds of thousands of Russians remained doomed to destruction and total extinction. A terrible civil war inside Russia, which, according to the most conservative estimates, claimed more than 17 MILLION lives of our compatriots!!! The destruction of industry, the complete liquidation of agriculture, the complete eradication of the national elite, the desecration of the Orthodox faith, that’s just not much that the Bolsheviks did to “preserve Russian civilization.” THE BOLSHEVIKS CRUCIFIED HER!!! Thanks to the Bolsheviks, we are still in a state of civil war! We still cannot, and almost 100 years have passed (!!!), restore our national state, which we Russians, and not only Russians, lost then!!! The coming to power of the Bolsheviks was a national tragedy and DISASTER for the Russians!!! To write that the Bolsheviks (executioners) SAVED THE RUSSIAN CIVILIZATION (VICTIM) is IMMORAL, IMORAL AND EXTREMELY CYNICAL!!!
1. Rimlianin
  
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  9 November 2015 19: 12
  
  Quote: pomor23
  I want to responsibly declare to the author that the Bolsheviks not only did not save the RUSSIAN CIVILIZATION, they made every effort to destroy it!!! Yes, destroy everything Russian in this part of the territory, destroy everything to the ground, turn Russians into slaves, burn and wipe out the RUSSIAN CIVILIZATION from the face of the earth.
  
  Citizen, I think you should go to Echo, they love people like that. As Jean-Paul Charles Aimard Sartre said, and he would be more literate than you (Nobel Laureate in Literature) - every anti-communist is a bastard. It was the Bolsheviks who destroyed Russian civilization? Turned Russians into slaves? A! Exactly! It was the slaves who defeated Hitler, launched man into space, built a nuclear shield and a Superpower.
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  9 November 2015 19: 18
  
  Quote: pomor23
  It was the Bolsheviks who were the worms who, taking advantage of the inability of the Februaryists to govern a huge country, did everything in their power to completely disintegrate all state institutions and plunge the country into grave horror and constant chaos
  
  Well, yes. Was it under the Provisional Government that there were state institutions? The institutions that were dissolved by a crowd of sailors are good. It was the Provisional Government that dismantled the main state institution - the Army, introducing the election of command personnel. But the Bolsheviks, having created the Red Army, introduced unity of command and iron discipline into it. Sometimes look at your history textbook before you write nonsense.
3. Rimlianin
  
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  9 November 2015 19: 21
  
  Quote: pomor23
  the country was deprived of its legitimate victory in the First World War, the humiliating Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, millions in indemnities from the losing Germany, the loss of vast territories in which hundreds of thousands of Russians remained doomed to destruction and total extinction.
  
  Do you seriously think that without concluding the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, the then young Soviet government would have been able to retain the entire territory of the former Russian Empire? The Red Army was just in its infancy, and the old tsarist army actually no longer existed (and it was not the Bolsheviks that destroyed it, it collapsed even before they came to power, thanks to the sabotage reforms of the Provisional Government)
4. Rimlianin
  
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  9 November 2015 19: 25
  
  Quote: pomor23
  A terrible civil war inside Russia, which, according to the most conservative estimates, claimed more than 17 MILLION lives of our compatriots!!
  
  Following your logic, did the Soviet government need to surrender the country to Kolchak, Denikin and the interventionists behind them? Nobody says that the civil war is good, but it is not the Bolsheviks, many of whom, who need to be thanked for it
  they themselves laid down their heads in it, and the previous rulers, thanks to whom a huge crack arose in society.
Rimlianin

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9 November 2015 19: 06

Quote: Pilot bin-bom
Comrade Lenin said that if ninety percent of Russians die, he will consider this a justifiable victim in the name of the victory of world communism.

Please link to where he said this.
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  9 November 2015 23: 09
  
  It’s strange, Comrade Senior Sergeant, how is it that, with all your knowledge, you are not familiar with the famous article of your genius “On Great Power Russian Chauvinism”?! As for your responses to my own comment, which you (I was even flattered by) parsed into separate quotes, I will say that I do not consider it possible for myself to answer you and fall into a useless argument. I will only advise you to get information from different sources. For example, read Denikin’s memoirs and Bronstein’s imperishable story about the theory of permanent revolution or the same Lenin (collected works), and in contrast to him the memoirs of General Turkul or Bogaevsky. then you would understand that the tragedy of the civil war is our common tragedy and misfortune for centuries to come. And that we should not celebrate, but mourn for all the Russian people killed in this war. And the most important thing is to do everything so that this never happens again on Russian soil, because I don’t want to look for you in the sights of my machine gun!!!
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9 November 2015 21: 50

When the smell of fried food began to smell in Russia, all these brethren, miraculously, ended up in their homeland. Soviet history is silent about the image. Then really anyone could take power into their own hands. Kerensky is a woman in pants, a demagogue like Mikhail Sergeevich, and even on good terms with Leva Bronstein - isn’t this a gift to the Bolsheviks who slept through the February revolution? P..ki from the fifth column, supposedly liberals, who had filled their purses, really thought about their well-being. There was a man, Brusilov, who asked the first people of the country for money to organize order in the capital, fortunately there was plenty of military at that time, but... .. They were confident in their inviolability, and after the coup they came running. And the train has left, gentlemen or whatever you call it.
The most interesting thing is that they, having received her power as a gift, did not know what to do with it. Some dreamed of world revolutions, others grabbed, like Yakov Mikhalych.
Rimlianin

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10 November 2015 18: 13

Quote: pomor23
then you would understand that the tragedy of the civil war is our common tragedy and misfortune for centuries to come. And that we should not celebrate, but mourn for all the Russian people killed in this war.

And somewhere I rejoiced at the victory of the Bolsheviks in the civil war? And even more so celebrating? I understand as well as you that the civil war is a terrible and shameful page in our history, which still reverberates in our society with uneradicated contradictions. But what do the Bolsheviks have to do with it? Or do you want to say that if Lenin and Co. had not come to power in October 0th, there would have been no civil war? Do you think the Provisional Government could save Russia, despite the fact that in six months of its rule it practically destroyed the army?
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