Who should stop fascism in Ukraine?

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Who should stop fascism in Ukraine?The question is posed that way. It should, and not stop. It is already clear that this is not about the UN Security Council, because it is a gathering of impotent people dancing to the tune of the US State Department. And not about the European Community. With them, too, today everything is clear. It is about those forces who can and who should do it.

First of all, of course, we will talk about Russia. May my real Ukrainian friends forgive me the following lines and may their enemies rejoice: I am categorically opposed to the Ukrainian Fascism being driven into the coffin by guys from the Russian Army.

Many are waiting for this. And those who advocate the federalization of Ukraine, and those who wish to attack Russia by all possible means.

In my opinion, the whole problem of the supporters of federalization in the southeast is not even a lack of coordination and weapons. And in the absence of that spirit of unity, which was inherent in residents of the Crimea. A very large number of the population of the southeast prefers what is called "sit out" without taking active part in promotions. Alas.

The second and equally important component is that the Ukrainians lost the war for their brains. Too well the Ukrainian media shoved into the heads of citizens the thought of bloody Putin, who dreams of seizing Ukraine.

The result was what we see: of the millions who inhabit the Donbass, God forbid that thousands really go to battle for their future. Who is with a weapon, who is a human shield. I deeply respect these people and adore their civil courage in defending my choice. But, to my great regret, their obvious minority. The rest prefer a policy of waiting, nothing more.

And, unfortunately, those who took to the streets in any incarnation hope and count on Russia's help. Our help is with you. And these people definitely deserve this help. In a word, deed, zinc of cartridges, a box of medicines. For they went to battle for a just cause. Their choice is worthy of respect and help.

Most of the population ... alas. My friends in Ukraine very often complained about the fact that the main part, to put it mildly, didn’t care what flag to live under. Just to live. And even better - to live well. It is a fact. Anyway, at what power. Anton and Lena from Kramatorsk, Sergey from Slavyansk, Alexey and Anton from Kharkov, right? These are your words I convey.

What is happening in Ukraine now has only one meaning - fascism. The one with whom my grandfather fought 70 years ago. And millions of other Russian grandfathers. But I do not want this fascism, carefully cultivated in the Ukrainian land, to be uprooted by the grandchildren of these grandfathers.

Many, many people today are fighting for the introduction of troops to Ukraine. It is necessary, it is necessary to protect our brothers from the black and red infection. Need to?

Answer me, why should a Russian guy from Belgorod or Pskov go to the territory of another country in order to fight fascism there again? In my opinion, this should be done by the same guy from Donetsk or Lugansk. Right? Yes, I think so.
Do not compare with the Crimea. This is our land, this is our people. Who demonstrated extraordinary unity and cohesion in achieving their goal - restoration historical justice. And justice has been restored.

In the southeast, everything is somewhat different. There are people who are willing to die to achieve their goals. I deeply respect Ponomarev, Strelkov, Romanov, Shishatsky and everyone who stands next to them. These are people with a capital letter. But their small number is absolutely surprising. Where are the others? It turns out that they are sitting at home and waiting for the Russian army to come to rescue them. It doesn't sound very beautiful, but it is.

I do not want a repeat of 1944. When during the day the entire population happily waved Soviet soldiers, and at night, grenades and bottles of kerosene flew through the windows of the huts where they stayed for a halt. I don’t want a Russian guy in 2014 to shoot a Ukrainian who speaks Russian (by the way, I noticed videos from the Odessa House of Trade Unions, where all pravoseki communicated only in Russian), and another guy with the same type beat him in the back. Or hid behind his back. I do not want.

This is not the absence of patriotism or love for one's neighbor. Everyone who calls for the immediate entry of troops into the territory of Ukraine to provide assistance (including Mr. Mironov from Just Russia) has one thing in common: they will not have to enter there. For many reasons. But alas, yelling at every corner is one thing, and to sit in an armored personnel carrier and go to fight is another. I doubt that Mr. Mironov is ready to do this. Like those who, on a multitude of resources, never stop yelling, “Putin, what are you waiting for? Enter the troops !!! " Of course, they are not in these troops. They are not leverage tank, and behind the keyboard. It is easier. And safer.

I am on 100% supporting Putin, who is not in a hurry to use his right to send troops into the territory of a neighboring state. Because those who gave him this right will not enter there either. And to answer for everyone killed to him. So that's right, he does. Until.

But it is also impossible to abandon everything, focusing only on diplomacy. The events in Odessa showed us the true face of Ukrainian fascism. Grin. I think that it would be possible to open the supply of the army of the southeast from the available reserves in the Crimea. I am sure that local experts are well aware of which of the mountain paths you can drag a convoy with useful things. And pass these things to those who really need them. After all, we do not need tanks, right? It could be done. And need to.

To help the brothers in the fight is a holy thing. But - just help. Automata, cartridges, bronchik, RPG shots, medicines. All that is needed. But not the lives of our sons. We have scattered them a lot. Afghanistan, Karabakh, Chechnya ... too much.

Ukrainian fascism must be destroyed by the Ukrainians.
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  1. +2
    4 May 2014 10: 51
    Russia can and should provide assistance to the southeast of Ukraine, but only if they themselves want it. What we see now is in no way similar to a nationwide protest against the Kyiv authorities. Look, almost 50 people were killed in Odessa in one day, so what? Where are the protest rallies of thousands? Everyone is sitting at home and waiting for everything to resolve itself. They hope that the West will put a handout in one hand and Russia in the other. Look who is actively demanding rapprochement with Russia. These are people over forty. And there are almost no young people. We don’t know their moods, but young people have always been the most active part of society. So they were well brainwashed. Of course, in 20 years, or even less, these brains can be washed, new generations can be raised, just for the sake of it. Even if you imagine that 50% are for us, then the other half are against. Therefore, by sending in troops, Russia will support one half of the population against the other. We are obliged to support our supporters, but starting a war from which there is no way out is not worth it.
  2. +3
    4 May 2014 10: 52
    Quote: MainBeam
    There are professional military men. Prepared, trained and armed.

    It just needs to be done. How much can this junta mock the Russians in Ukraine. I also have many friends in Ukraine and they are not sitting at home, everyone is on the barricades, but they have children and they are not professionals. And the army is against them! What can a non-professional with a baton do against an armed man? from head to toe from the National Guard? Yes, he won’t do a damn thing! Only Polite People can do this! Odessa - we mourn with you for your fallen heroes, every hero of yours, I repeat every one - will be avenged and the NON-PEOPLE who will bear responsibility for this cruel punishment!
    1. kuksha
      +1
      4 May 2014 13: 02
      in Slavyansk MI-24 was overwhelmed with batons.
      What prevents the Donetsk Republic from creating its own army?
      miners demand increased wages.
  3. +12
    4 May 2014 10: 53
    I can say with complete confidence that Nazism will not stop in Ukraine.
    Next in line are the regions of the Russian Federation bordering Ukraine. It's a matter of time.
    And I don’t understand the desire of some to “sit out”, baptized, on the sidelines, hiding behind the wall of international laws.
    Don't want to get involved today? Will be pulled in tomorrow...
    We need to start preparing today. The army will be of little help. They will bring out children and women and the troops will stand there.
    We don’t have our own fighters, the national idea is just in the air, instructors don’t train young people, there’s no such program. There isn't even CVP in the school curriculum.
    But there are a lot of “nerds”. Women raise boys. Horror!
    Will we travel with paratroopers and cadets?
    Ukraine showed who we will be dealing with, what we should prepare for... And urgently!
    1. 0
      5 May 2014 13: 32
      Unfortunately, military training cannot solve this problem. The NVP can also prepare those who are in the Maidan. Boys from Russia went to “Maidan”, gathered in Moscow on Bolotnaya, etc. They always hide behind the slogans of human rights activists. Everywhere the same scenario. The main thing is to rock the boat and it doesn’t matter who comes out later. First of all, patriotic education is necessary. Thank God at least they stopped shouting about American culture and American values ​​on TV. It is necessary to introduce a law on deprivation of citizenship and deportation of persons inciting hatred in the country.
  4. +3
    4 May 2014 10: 57
    We won’t abandon Ukraine, I’m sure, but a lot of blood will be shed (everything is too neglected there..) Now we’re sitting here, writing, discussing, giving advice, and there the Slavs are killing the Slavs.. We must hold on without hysterics! Let's break through...
    1. 0
      4 May 2014 13: 37
      MIKHAN

      We will break through... The price will be prohibitive, as history shows.
      Why is our “Doctor” silent?
  5. SNG
    +1
    4 May 2014 10: 59
    Or maybe Lugansk, Donetsk, Odessa should ask for help from Transnistria? I think we'll help.
  6. +12
    4 May 2014 11: 00
    If anyone tells me that THIS CREATURE is a man, or worse, my brother, I will spit in his face. Such people should not exist on the land of Rus' (they should not exist at all). negative
    1. +4
      4 May 2014 11: 56
      Ukrainian Cossack (and even with an Oseledets). Such "fathers" should be whipped to death on the Maidan. Those who survive - for the restoration of Ukrainian cities. And then you can let him down (if you’re guilty, let him go), with a kick in the geyropa, without the right to enter the “historical homeland”. These o.t.m.o.r.o.z.k.o.v have no homeland, they do not have the right to be called not only Ukrainians, but also people. Although letting go is more expensive for yourself. They will always praise Bandera, Hitler, neo-fascism. And raise your children the same way. We don't have the death penalty. This means - k.a.s.t.r.i.r.o.v.a.t.b, so as not to produce others like yourself - and to the geyropa too.
  7. SEKTRIS
    +2
    4 May 2014 11: 07
    Quote: Samsebenum
    I can say with complete confidence that Nazism will not stop in Ukraine. Next in line are the regions of the Russian Federation bordering Ukraine. It's a matter of time.

    I’m just sure that our President understands this perfectly well and will do everything necessary to prevent this.
  8. +2
    4 May 2014 11: 10
    You can help Ukrainians.
    It is necessary to open the borders also with the status of refugees, through the “green corridor”, for those who want to give the opportunity to leave for Russia.
    Let them settle, we have enough land.
    Where is the Chief? Chapai thinks?
  9. +6
    4 May 2014 11: 11
    I don’t want to read the comments or listen to who is stopping me from sending a dozen rooks and destroying the armored vehicles of the SBU and the right. want without detection at a height of 20 meters! who is stopping us from forcing the Banderlogs to get out of the SE by throwing out groups of ethnic Ukrainians of whom we have hundreds of thousands in the army, why are Anglo-Saxons, Georgians, Poles fighting on the side of the pro-Maidanists who barely understand Russian speech, why are we interfering in the rescue of neighboring Ositians and Abkhazians and cannot help the Slavs - just brothers halfway? - the answer is up to the president, I want to tell him that the Russian doesn’t stop halfway, and even if you close this gas pipe until everything is resolved, the EU and the USA will only recognize force, otherwise you will remain a regional leader.
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    2. 0
      4 May 2014 12: 02
      Lance, stop being hysterical!
  10. -3
    4 May 2014 11: 13
    Send troops to UKRAINE, and then what, everyone will immediately be happy and everything will calm down, no, it will be 1000 times worse, where will at least millions of people who support this Western government go, and several million new ones who will think that RUSSIA has occupied their country. And the West will shout to the whole world about it. These millions of people will say that it is true that RUSSIA occupied us. And these Banderaites, fascists and all others who support them will begin to kill thousands of RUSSIANS, slaughter us wherever possible, organize arson and terrorist attacks. What to do with these millions, you can’t jail them all, and you won’t be able to deport them from the country either. The USA will immediately have several million allies who will bring chaos to RUSSIA, and will begin to destroy RUSSIA. This can no longer be allowed to happen. So measure a hundred times and cut once. hi
    1. 0
      4 May 2014 20: 58
      The Germans in 1945 also really didn’t like the occupation by the Soviet Army... So what? Shouldn't you have crossed the border of Nazi Germany?
  11. Ivan Cherny
    +11
    4 May 2014 11: 20
    I apologize in advance for my ignorance, I am a simple worker. It just amazes me how many people can’t see beyond their own noses. Or don't they want to see? The children of my friends are outright Nazis, but their parents complacently brush them off: “the kids just love football.” There is now a popular opinion regarding Ukraine: let them figure it out themselves, why should we lose our soldiers? And THIS is said by the same people who shouted a month ago that if even one Russian dies, we will clear everything up to the Carpathians. Anti-fascists in Ukraine were encouraged to openly confrontate, but now they have been betrayed. As for Crimea - aren’t you ashamed to say that the Crimeans all stood up against the fascists, who walked unarmed into the tanks? Who was burned alive there? They took the Crimeans like puppies by the scruff of the neck, and now they are molding them into heroes, and humiliating the real heroes.
    1. irina.mmm
      +3
      4 May 2014 15: 19
      In Crimea, almost all the people went to rallies and asked for help from Russia. But what happens here? They proclaim a republic and cancel it the next day. There are 120 thousand people in Slavyansk, 2000 in the militia. And the anti-terrorist operation is a joke. They will reach the Donbass just before the elections. And where is the “rebellious” Kharkov, Nikolaev. Where are the miners, they are on strike until they acquaintances and relatives are being killed. Those who betrayed them, first of all, they themselves do not want change. But they don’t want to join Russia, they can do everything with someone else’s hands, and then they can go to the EU. But I feel sorry for Odessa. People passed by like observers, filming with cameras. ...
      We have sanctions, we have problems, and they will make their own revolution at home. By the way, when there was Crimea and Kharkov and Donetsk they suddenly fell silent about the referendum, let’s see how it will be. And no one dragged the Crimeans by the scruff of the neck. Yes, those who fight now are heroes. And those who died are glory, but Russia must help their families.
  12. +2
    4 May 2014 11: 20
    Quote: MainBeam
    Helping the brothers in the fight is a holy thing. But it is precisely to help. Automatons, cartridges, armor plates ... But not the lives of our sons.

    Who was brainwashed? Are we brothers or one Slavic people?

    This position is not much different from "My hut on the edge":
    Just to live. Better yet, live well

    There are professional soldiers. Trained, trained and armed. They do not die in batches. And there is no need to bring in regular troops. Enough special units or special operations. Chop off the head of the snake, and restore order in Ukraine. And then the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Prosecutor's Office will deal with "fascism".

    The GRU must work, what is the purpose of keeping several brigades then? There are many objects in Ukraine, removing which the situation can change dramatically, people are intimidated to the limit, you need to touch the other side so that the euphoria is replaced by fear for real life. But sending in troops would be a big deal a tragic mistake, this is what Geyropa and the United States are waiting for.
  13. PATRIOT 13
    +3
    4 May 2014 11: 22
    I agree 200% with the author of the article...a wise guy wrote...and all those laughers...who are shouting about brotherly help and about the Russian question - where were you before, allowing all this pursuit of power? Vova does everything right.. the ability to sacrifice less for the sake of more is the destiny of the wise.. you can’t in the heat of the moment sign up for those and what often reveals the essence of a prostitute.. everything is right.. they want to live, let them get rid of the fat and raise their spirits.. all as one...what, weak?? it’s just that if the Russian Ivan comes, the mess will be global... but, as history shows, no one needs it and few will appreciate it over time... apparently gratitude is also a national feature... it’s not worth leaving for the sake of everyone who screams for help your children and go die where you stupidly ate your future... in general, for now you have to watch and wait... and you will always have time to burn half the world in the apocalypse...
  14. +6
    4 May 2014 11: 26
    Quote: alex1961
    No guerrilla war without outside support is possible. But no one in the West will let us fight for years. They write here that there is no need to send troops, we need to give weapons, etc. Did Russia transfer a lot of weapons to us in Odessa?
    An intimidation operation took place here, knowing that there were no weapons other than cheap traumatic weapons. If there had been at least two machine guns, where would this pack have been after the first burst? But the punitive forces had the full support of the authorities and the police. Those standing on the parapet on the 4th floor shouted: Jump below Russia!
    Ukraine is a modern Stalingrad for Russia. Putin will never be forgiven for violating the New World Order! He dealt a strong blow to it, but did not destroy it yet. And even if he leaves Ukraine to the mercy of fate, there will be no forgiveness for him. You will not save Ukraine, but yourself. If the protest movement is encouraged now, it will not rise again.

    I am writing from Odessa. Absolutely agree with the comment! Until May 2, Odessa remained almost the only city in Ukraine where it was possible to maintain peace and tranquility; rallies and protests were exclusively peaceful. I myself went to the Kulikovo Field (anti-Maidan), but I realized that it was useless, because... residents and authorities surrendered the city even earlier (indifference, brainwashed, pursuit of their own interests, etc.). All that was missing was an act of intimidation for the rest - which is what happened. Odessa is occupied by the Nazis! Patriots of the Russian World in Ukraine need to move on to underground (partisan) activities in the occupied territory. And for this we need Russian help! My colleague died in this fire. I want and am ready to take revenge, but I don’t see the opportunity to do it. Brown terror must be responded to with red, but this requires information, organization, strength, and resources. You can find strength and information here, but without the rest it makes no sense.
    1. 0
      4 May 2014 12: 16
      Quote: RusOdessa
      information, organization, strength, and resources are needed. You can find strength and information here, but without the rest it makes no sense.

      I agree 100%. The destruction of the Ukronazis is a God-pleasing deed. But without all of the above, no particular harm can be done to them, and the evil will only lead to an abyss.
      1. 0
        4 May 2014 13: 08
        Transnistria is nearby! They will help!!!
  15. 0
    4 May 2014 11: 34
    Sending troops into Ukraine now is the same as landing troops somewhere in California... Let's get it straight .. (Ukraine has been ruled by the USA for a long time) .. There must be something different in this situation .. (it’s not for nothing that Crimea is in such a hurry they annexed this strategically and morally important territory for Russia..) Now they are starting to hit Russia with sanctions and brazenly steal gas.. I think there will be a special operation in Kiev so that right away... (Yanyk is the trump card for now)... I don’t know, it’s unclear how everything is in Ukraine and shame...
  16. +1
    4 May 2014 11: 34
    Quote: ZU-23
    The people must defeat fascism, the remaining 90% must raise the opa and hollow fascists and not wait until Russia comes and begins the third world.

    Why did Ukraine ban the entry of males aged 16 to 60 years into its territory? But leaving Ukraine is without restrictions. Thousands of Ukrainians work in Russia, go home once every 2-3 months and nothing. Look at gas stations. Hundreds of cars with Ukrainian license plates (I'm not talking about passenger cars - minivans), loaded to capacity with workers, are heading towards Moscow, St. Petersburg, Yaroslavl, Vologda. Yes, there is no work, yes, we need to feed our families. Until all of Ukraine rises up, there will be no sense. Yes, I am for helping Ukraine, but not by sending troops, but by weapons, medicines, and volunteers. And there is no need to be afraid of these steps. Russia has already been accused of all its sins, which is worth the FSB operation in Odessa). The people must defeat fascism and it is our duty to help them in this.
  17. +2
    4 May 2014 11: 41
    I partly agree with the author of the article. But partly not. I agree that boys like me should not go to fight on foreign territory. It is a common practice for the United States to send other people's sons to war in other countries. I do not agree that the Russian Federation should help with weapons - then we will become accomplices in fratricide.
    I think everyone has long understood that the purpose of this conflict is to sow discord among the Slavs. Today Ukraine, and tomorrow Belarus. That is why every step regarding the Ukrainian conflict must be weighed twice, and only then taken.
    1. +1
      4 May 2014 12: 04
      Is this what you call brother? (see photo above)????? And he’s armed with a non-Chinese machine gun, not from the children’s world!
  18. +1
    4 May 2014 11: 44
    Donetsk and Lugansk can withstand the Banderlogs, Odessa does not, unfortunately, the mentality is not the same. Miners, hard workers and traders are two very different things. Russia will advance troops at the command of the GDP exactly when it is appropriate from the point of view of OUR, RUSSIAN interests, both short-term and long-term.
    1. kuksha
      0
      4 May 2014 13: 19
      where did you see the miners?
      they demand an increase in wages.
      and then several mines.
      1. usn2garin
        0
        4 May 2014 19: 41
        It was just reported on Rossiya24 that the miners and metal workers have finally begun to wake up, an indefinite strike has been declared at many mines, the metal workers have the same thing, they are demanding a complete withdrawal of troops from the Donetsk and Lugansk regions.
  19. +2
    4 May 2014 11: 45
    First of all, of course, we will talk about Russia
    first of all, it should be the Ukrainians themselves and nothing else
  20. maxim1
    +2
    4 May 2014 11: 46
    Quote: ZU-23
    The people must defeat fascism, the remaining 90%

    People's consciousness has been distorted in the most vile way.
    There are Russian spies and saboteurs all around, Russia has its mouth open on Ukraine and wants to devour it, the entire civilized world is waging a holy struggle for Ukraine, thousands of saboteurs have been caught, etc., etc.
    This is the collection of garbage in the minds of ordinary Ukrainians.
    Yes, Russia is giving birth to our union in agony... But victory will be for the truth!
    Truth is the strength of the Lord.
    And lies and hypocrisy are the power of Satan.
    We need help from Russia with weapons and communications. And volunteers.
    Otherwise, this fascist scum will have to be defeated long and hard.
    Or does Ukraine deserve it?
    It is necessary to pull the West by the ears to understand what they have done, disfiguring the consciousness of people and nurturing neo-Galician fascism.
    The only legitimate and effective method, it seems to me, is gas.
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  22. +6
    4 May 2014 11: 52
    We don't need you to fight for us. I want you to protect my family while I root out this infection in Ukraine. Including financially. How can I go to the Regional State Administration now when I have to work tomorrow? If I lose it, I will not recover in any case. I also bow to those who came out. Their desperate act makes me feel ashamed of myself. But it is incorrect to compare me with millions of Crimeans. It was not the people who rose up there, but the government, which turned out to be more responsible and organized. Let not leaders and Napoleons, but people whom everyone knew. We are being raised by several thousand desperate heroes. And if I join their ranks, my director will fire me without a doubt. Because he obeys local grabbers like Taruta and Akhmetov. If Russia sent troops and took control of power in the regions, or at least covered those few thousand desperate ones from the rear, I could be confident in the future of my family if I joined the ranks.
    Now imagine that if not all one hundred percent of the South-East, then almost the entire male population consists of people like me. No less than in Crimea. And with every shot fired by Ukrainian troops and a broken bottle of Molotov cocktail, there are more and more of them.
    1. +1
      4 May 2014 12: 11
      Absolutely true!
    2. kuksha
      0
      4 May 2014 13: 23
      these are excuses
      the Pravosecs imposed a tax on everyone. The miners pay them 10% of their salary.
  23. 0
    4 May 2014 11: 59
    Obama Merkel Saudi Israel, etc. are clearly clapping their hands...(Russia was hit in the gut) while we figure it out, we can do dirty things in Asia, the Middle East, etc.
  24. +4
    4 May 2014 12: 09
    It’s good to write such articles from, say, Bratsk! What can we say about Crimea? There is an isthmus there and there were 20 thousand Russian troops! And with your bare hands, go try to stop fascism with infantry fighting vehicles and helicopters! Only send troops!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!
  25. +2
    4 May 2014 12: 13
    In general, everything is correct.
    But when we look at the specifics, then:
    against professionals with trained foreigners are guys from the machine who have neither experience nor teachers on how to do “this”.
    It must be admitted that the army does not want to fight, but all units of the Ukrainian army have been assigned “commissars” from the “right-wingers” who control the troops.
    There is nothing to oppose to this yet, and in addition to the incapacitated army, the Right Sectorists, gathering into fan gangs of up to 5000, first celebrate the triumph in Kharkov, then in Donetsk, and now in Odessa.
    The population of South/East is not yet ready to stop them.
    Let me tell the hard truth, but as long as the industrial enterprises of the South-East are operating, as long as they receive energy from Russia, the mass of people will not resist foreign flags and foreign ideology. Behind the deceptive prosperity lies the tragedy of the people of Ukraine and the deceptive conviction that “this” will pass by, “this” does not concern them.
  26. tokin1959
    +1
    4 May 2014 12: 18
    the guerrilla war against fascism is destined for failure.
    You can’t run through the forests much. They will figure it out and take it out on the families.
    Right-wingers and nationalists would not have won without the support of the West.
    moral, material, political.
    Western leaders “grazed” on the Maidan, replacing one another, sending PMCs for the first time, while the junta did not yet control the army and police and was not fully in control of the situation.
    without all this, the Maidan would have been cleared in December.
    and what kind of support does Russia provide for southeastern Ukraine?
    They promised to send troops if something happened.
    There were powerful demonstrations where Russian flags were waved.
    As a result, the activists were imprisoned.
    Russia remained silent.
    a second wave arrived with weapons in their hands, which would also soon be crushed, this time bloodily.
    Why then promise - if you touch a Russian, we will reach the Carpathians.
    once again people believed and they were leaked along the way.
    There will be no referendum on May 11, the junta will not allow it.
    and before you blame the Ukrainians, why are you sitting at home? elementary - they are afraid for themselves and their families.
    without support they will be caught and transplanted.
    Why are we better ourselves? Here we write - Kvachkov is a patriot, but who came out to demonstrate support for Kvachkov? It would have been 5 million - look, and the patriot would not have been imprisoned.
    and after all, it’s as if we were peaceful, no one would have been killed for supporting Kvachkov.
    and then they will write you down for the St. George ribbon, and when the junta takes over, they will simply come and kill you.
    and no one will intercede.
  27. +4
    4 May 2014 12: 37
    Quote: Iskander Khan
    We don't need you to fight for us. I want you to protect my family while I root out this infection in Ukraine. Including financially. How can I go to the Regional State Administration now when I have to work tomorrow? If I lose it, I will not recover in any case. I also bow to those who came out. Their desperate act makes me feel ashamed of myself. But it is incorrect to compare me with millions of Crimeans. It was not the people who rose up there, but the government, which turned out to be more responsible and organized. Let not leaders and Napoleons, but people whom everyone knew. We are being raised by several thousand desperate heroes. And if I join their ranks, my director will fire me without a doubt. Because he obeys local grabbers like Taruta and Akhmetov. If Russia sent troops and took control of power in the regions, or at least covered those few thousand desperate ones from the rear, I could be confident in the future of my family if I joined the ranks.
    Now imagine that if not all one hundred percent of the South-East, then almost the entire male population consists of people like me. No less than in Crimea. And with every shot fired by Ukrainian troops and a broken bottle of Molotov cocktail, there are more and more of them.

    As a resident of the Southeast, I subscribe to every word and want to add:
    Why is the South-East richer than the rest of Ukraine (I don’t take Kyiv into account - the capital and the situation there are fundamentally different)? - Because we work! Everything is in business in Odessa! Everyone here has something to lose. I bow to the dead, I am ashamed and offended for the Odessa residents who humiliate and destroy their city, but I have a family that will certainly survive without me, but will end up in poverty and absolutely defenseless. I have no right to ignore this. The only possible way to fight is underground sabotage activities. Ready to become a partisan! Where is our Kovpak?!
    1. 0
      4 May 2014 12: 48
      Quote: RusOdessa
      The only possible way to fight is underground sabotage activities. Ready to become a partisan! Where is our Kovpak?!

      Your Kovpak Biden! (these comrades want partisan wars to take place in Ukraine (South-East) ..))) What is happening now .. and in Kyiv there is peace and quiet .. (there are no Russian speakers there?)))
    2. 0
      4 May 2014 19: 22
      Do you think he will sit out at work while real patriots die for their freedom and yours? It’s just shameful and disgusting to read such rubbish - get me a job for me - you are also a traitor to your country, the choice is small, either for independence or for fascism. There is a third option - to become slave, it looks like you have already folded your paws and are ready to be led like cattle to the slaughter. Aren’t you ashamed of yourself and others like you? We, RUSSIA, will stop fascism and you will continue to receive 3,14 pounds and rejoice in the fate of a slave. Please change your nickname RusOdessa and disgrace my RUSSIA
  28. 0
    4 May 2014 12: 41
    I agree that troops cannot be sent in, but Ukraine cannot be allowed to use troops against the people.
  29. +1
    4 May 2014 12: 43
    Having looked at the footage from Odessa, I was once again convinced that Russia has nothing to do in Ukraine for now. I looked at the hari of the satisfied policemen and everything becomes clear. V, Putin. is justifying the great name for Russia, Grand Duke VLADIMIR!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!In Lugansk you can see Russian officers of the old school. They have served for a long time but have not lost their skills. glory to the Russian Airborne Forces. And shame on the Ukrainian v-----v.
  30. +4
    4 May 2014 12: 43
    Ukrainian fascism must be destroyed by Ukrainians

    AND WE WILL SIT ON THE SIDE FOR RIGHT...
    This happened once before - in Germany. Should the Germans themselves have defeated fascism?! Where would you be now, Author, and those who support him?! This is no longer a question of opposing the next “color” revolution. FASCISM is a global phenomenon! Bringing a global threat.. Do you want a Nazi state on your borders? Then everything is correct - we sit on the vehicle straight and wait.
    In World War II, fascism was defeated at a terrible cost. Allowing it to develop now and get stronger means precisely to contribute to the beginning of the 3rd Mirva. For fascism cannot do without war - THIS IS ITS IDEOLOGICAL BASIS! The price will just be DIFFERENT..
    1. +1
      4 May 2014 12: 54
      and you were the one holding the machine gun in your hands. or crawled under bullets,,,,???????????????????????
  31. +4
    4 May 2014 12: 45
    Tell me, why should a Russian guy from Belgorod or Pskov go to the territory of another country to fight fascism there again?

    Because this is not another country, but ours. Legally, it’s a different state, but this is temporary, I hope. And also because Ukraine is becoming a hotbed of fascism, this is directed against us and it’s better for us to save ourselves now, later it will be more difficult if we postpone it. And the ways of fighting can be different. You can send our PMCs (private security company, private security company in our opinion) to Ukraine. The Yankees have already sent theirs to Ukraine, but what about us? Are we embarrassed? In Donetsk, passports can be issued for all our fighters to ensure secrecy. Personally, I'm ready. But I need to be provided with weapons, equipment, etc. You don't need to teach me. Trained, trained and experienced. In the conditions of the collapse of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it is quite possible to get by with volunteers. But their activities must be supported financially.
  32. -1
    4 May 2014 12: 48
    I support the author of the article. Ukrainians themselves must overthrow the junta. And we are obliged to provide help. At the same time, it seems to me that Putin is preparing something unpredictable. Otherwise, how can we understand that Russia 24 has been broadcasting the same footage of the events in Odessa for the third day now? Public opinion is being prepared.
  33. bilgesez
    +2
    4 May 2014 12: 49
    Quote - It is obvious to us that Russia cannot and does not have the right to leave millions of Russian citizens of Ukraine to be devoured by the Nazi junta. It is obvious to us that even if our president could enter into such a conspiracy with the organizers of the coup in Kyiv, he would at that very moment completely lose his legitimacy in the eyes of the overwhelming majority of Russian citizens. The president himself, I believe, understands this no less. It is obvious to us that sooner or later, in one form or another, we will have to restore order in Ukraine. The only question is: how far are the American ones, and, after them, yours, dumb, voiceless politicians, playing the role of American extras, ready to go? Are they really ready to start a nuclear war so that Ukraine remains under Nazi rule? And what should Russia do in light of this prospect?

    We - as far as I can tell, overwhelmingly - found our answer in two months. To retreat from Ukraine means to allow the creation of a springboard there for the destruction of Russia.
    We have nowhere to retreat. We cannot allow this, and if this entails war, then there will be war. She is, in fact, already on her way. German, Polish, Italian mercenaries under the command of American officers are already killing Russians in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. Now it's up to you. Does your hatred of Russia extend so far that you are ready to die with us? Then go ahead. We are ready.
    We would prefer a long and peaceful life, but, alas, no one asks us. The choice that we are given is death today, or death in a few (possibly several decades) years. There is, however, a difference.

    Death today is not death alone, but together with those who are going to kill us. Dying a few years from now—when we are hit right from our own backyard—is dying alone, with no opportunity for revenge. When the choice is this way, we are simply forced to choose death today. http://oko-planet.su/politik/politikukr/240983-esli-smert-neizbezhna-grazhdanam-
    eurosoyuza.html
  34. 0
    4 May 2014 12: 52
    It's like that. - In Russia, mothers still give birth to one boy per family, and they still give birth, but the gene pool must be protected. Freedom is sweeter the more strength you give for it in the fight. And for some reason the price of Russian blood quickly depreciates and is forgotten over time. Of course, we need help. But: weapons, money, advice, strong support. The rest, guys, is YOURS.
  35. -4
    4 May 2014 13: 01
    Russia has nothing to do there. It needs to develop its economy so as not to depend on either the European Union or the United States. The United States is just waiting for this to start a large-scale war.
  36. -1
    4 May 2014 13: 01
    It is impossible to send troops into Ukraine now. Let all sensible people rise up first. In order for Russia to successfully conduct military operations on the territory of Ukraine, even if the majority of the people are friendly, the prerequisites for this must be created. Until, no offense to the Russian-speaking majority, they rise up - the result could be disastrous. This is how World War III can begin. The people of Ukraine are the force that should stand in the way of fascism in the first place. Ukraine should become the second Spain of the 21st century. At this stage, we need to help them only with weapons and volunteers. But this should be done not only by Russia, but by other progressive forces in the world. Putin will not make hasty decisions; he understands what this can lead to. This decision requires more compelling reasons and prerequisites. But the West will still scream about Moscow’s hand. I think that Russia will help, but a little later.
  37. +3
    4 May 2014 13: 08
    I noticed one thing.
    The “Pravoseks” who examined those killed in Odessa spoke pure Russian, and not the Lvov dialect. But many continue to be mistaken and claim that Ukrainian fascism is just “Westerners.”
    There is another misconception - this is when they claim that Ukrainian Nazism is “a consequence of brainwashing over the past 20 years.”
    Yushchenko, Tyagnibok, Muzychko, Yarosh, Turchinov, Parubiy, Tymoshenko, Avakov were born and raised in the USSR, and not in the last 20 years. By the way, of those named, only three are natives of Western Ukraine.
    These two misconceptions hinder understanding of the situation in Ukraine:
    1) Allegedly, Ukrainian nationalism comes exclusively from Galicia.
    2) Allegedly, it appeared only after the collapse of the USSR.
    To correctly understand what is happening in Ukraine, we must discard these two myths. Many people clearly fail to do this.
  38. +1
    4 May 2014 13: 09
    There were such statements back in November-December 2013, and you hid all the fat... So they waited for you and the regular army with the Pravoseks (Galicians) pacified... (aviation, tanks, snipers, mercenaries..) Did they wait? We sat for half a year chewing snot...Golden eagle went to Russia! Pilots (for 5 thousand $) are shooting. In Kiev, the fee for the Moscow...I'm assigned (the posters are huge) Shame on the South-East...And you also accuse Russia of inaction ( We are already almost against the whole world for you..) And all you have in your heads is the quiet Ukrainian night.. and glory to the heroes..) I’m just tough (it’s a pity for our guys when they trample on freeing you from your stupidity and with their blood washing away your greed and stubbornness) God will be your judge..
  39. PRN
    +1
    4 May 2014 13: 14
    Fascism in Ukraine is a tool with which the Americans seek to destroy Russia. Therefore, it is necessary to eliminate the cause, not the consequences. Washington must be destroyed.
  40. +2
    4 May 2014 13: 22
    Ukrainian anti-Maidan patriots need help. Fact! But not by the introduction of Russian troops. Weapons - yes! You can also think about working out operations to physically eliminate the leaders. All I.O., commanders of the National Guard and the most zealous of their presidential candidates and Radovites. Agree with the pro-Russian forces so that, for example, the entire top of the junta is destroyed, and you deal with the rest yourself. Why these expensive special forces operations? And so it turns out that fascism was expelled by the hands of the Ukrainians themselves. I think that this is a completely normal option. Otherwise, we all think in a strange way. Those who directly carry out criminal orders can be killed even by sending in troops, but there are no puppeteers. not touchable or what? Or you can’t touch them, because then how can you negotiate with whom?
  41. -1
    4 May 2014 13: 27
    I noticed such a thing, first of all, a lot of privates appeared here, and plus they are the ones who, in the majority, are shouting to tear everyone up, cut them up, throw them with hail, or even as one suggested immediately throwing a nuclear bomb at America. Secondly, understand, by getting involved in Ukraine, we are automatically unleashing the 3rd World War -question do we need this???? Third, if we need this, then only a sheep can untie it without thinking about winning. Fourth, damn, has the time come for us to act against a united Europe, America and cotton allies like Kazakhstan and Belarus
  42. +1
    4 May 2014 13: 27
    Who should, who should - yes, the one who does not jump!
  43. +1
    4 May 2014 13: 35
    I agree with the author. Footage of tanks and armored personnel carriers entering Kramatorsk, not a single one was shot down, people on the streets filmed this on their mobile phones. Odessa, the protest against the arrest of people accused of setting fire to the trade union house is supported only by relatives of those arrested. Where are the others? They hid in their houses. Waiting for what? Do you remember the footage from Grozny when the federal troops entered the city, how many tanks they burned? There were militants there, but why are there no former and current military personnel left in Ukraine? Ukraine is a different state, it’s the same as interfering in the affairs of someone else’s family, today they are fighting, but if you try to interfere, they will make a statement to the police that you have violated their family idyll. This cauldron needs to be methodically destroyed, the army units that surrounded the cities should not be left alone - destroy equipment, right-wingers, although in Ukraine there was not much with the partisans during the war - this is not Belarus. What is missing more than weapons or the desire to do something?
  44. Artem1967
    0
    4 May 2014 13: 36
    It’s really time to help the South-East with weapons and volunteers. It’s too early to bring in the army; the majority of the local population needs to support this step. This is the main thing. There is no point in thinking about Western sanctions in this situation - they will apply them in any case. Yes, and without delay, identify everyone who participated in the burning of the House of Trade Unions in Odessa for subsequent trial.
  45. +2
    4 May 2014 13: 39
    And yet, since we are talking about whether Ukraine is a foreign country to Russia or not, then we probably need to remember the referendum of the peoples of the USSR in the early 90s, which by a majority vote decided to become a Union. That. the drunken decision of the Belovezhskaya Troika cannot be considered legitimate in any way, and the peoples of the former Union had and continue to have the right to demand the restoration of the USSR or, at least, the preservation of all the fundamental human rights that they had in the USSR. Of course, it is unlikely that it will be possible to restore the USSR within its former borders, but it is also impossible to allow the temporary “rulers” of some former republics of the Union to do whatever they want with former citizens of the USSR or to turn these republics into NATO springboards. After all, a very large number of Russian-speaking citizens of the same Ukraine, Moldova, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia are people who were mobilized in the post-war years to restore the economy of these republics destroyed by the war, their children and grandchildren. I no longer mention the innumerable sacrifices that the peoples of the USSR, and above all the peoples of Russia, suffered in order to free these republics from the brown plague, including from all sorts of Banderaites, “forest brothers” and other bloody riffraff.
    Therefore, it is not Russia’s business to pretend now that protecting the Russian and Russian-speaking population from the new old “browns” in these republics is not Russia’s business.
    And there will be no big war. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are not strength, but impotence. America has already made it clear that it will not fight with Russia for Ukraine, and Europe, especially, will not get involved in this adventure. Those. Despite all the inadequacy of those who now rule the barracks, they are not so brainless as to put themselves in a noose for the sake of some kind of Ukraine. What else? Sanctions? So they are already backing off with sanctions, because... They understand that no one can replace the Russian market. So they are gobbling up Ukraine in the same way as they gobbled up Crimea. The squealing, of course, will be more painful. But...they will squeal, they will squeal, they will blow off steam on the whistle and calm down.
  46. 0
    4 May 2014 13: 42
    Gifts must be returned. The map of Ukraine appeared for the FIRST TIME (!) In 1922, before that the Ottoman Empire, Austria-Hungary, Rzeczpospolita, the Russian Empire "had" it for centuries, BUT AS THE STATE HAS NEVER BEEN. SEE THE RESULTS.
  47. Timmir
    +2
    4 May 2014 13: 57
    There is no need to compare the situation in Crimea and Donetsk. I don’t care about that Ukraine where the majority rejoice in the killing of their fellow tribesmen. In Donetsk, Lugansk and other similar cities, people are mostly unanimous against the Kyiv junta. Yes, not everyone rises to defend their cities, but if this happened in another country, it would be the same. For the population to rise up, they need confidence in victory. I don’t understand the unexpected silence of our government, maybe this is such a cunning move. Donetsk and Lugansk regions need to be protected from fascist scum.
  48. +1
    4 May 2014 14: 02
    If the top officials (if you can call them that) and candidates for the presidency of the country, without any hesitation, promote genocide and racism, then such a state will not last long. And it all must begin with the people who endure such covids. And then, through joint efforts, finish off this reptile in its hole.
    Death to fascism! Victory will be ours!
  49. +2
    4 May 2014 14: 04
    Donbass is 300 miners, has anyone seen miners on the streets in Slavyansk or Kramatorsk?
    What do you think, if not all, but at least 10% of the miners take to the streets of their cities, will there be a need for the deployment of Russian troops? What if they don't come out? Are you happy with everyone?
    More than 1 million people live in Odessa and they need to be protected from 1 thousand young punks?
    Are they already satisfied with everything in Kharkov?
    That’s why Putin is waiting, waiting for everyone to decide.
    Lenin once said, “In order to unite, you first need to disengage.”
  50. 0
    4 May 2014 14: 05
    Yes, I 100% agree with the author of the article. People in Ukraine must earn FREEDOM for themselves. Russians are not obligated to anyone.!
  51. +2
    4 May 2014 14: 05
    Answers to many questions can be found in Soviet cinema. “Dauria” - Vasya Solomin asks the partisans:
    ...Why aren't you fighting?
    - Why fight, there is Soviet power beyond the Urals, it will help out...
    - Oh, what a whore you are!!! And they also have wives, they also have children, they also want to live! Do you have a conscience, or did horseradish grow instead of it... With radish!!!
    Looks like it, right? We are ready to help defeat fascism, but only TOGETHER, and not INSTEAD. And one more thing: volunteers need to be organized, equipped, and delivered to the place where force is applied. And this should under no circumstances be a government agency, at least officially. Let it be the Russian Geographical Society, the Association of Book Lovers, the community of Siberian accordion players - it doesn’t matter. I have already raped the search engines, trying to dig up something. The regular army has nothing to do there. Nothing yet. IMHO.
    1. irina.mmm
      0
      4 May 2014 14: 27
      It’s certainly good that we need to send our volunteers, but why? So that the southeast will be liberated for them, and then they will accuse us of aggression. In Slavyansk, Kramatorsk and other cities they captured so many weapons, but there is no one to fight. The impression is that if Russia does not want to fight for us, then let him suffer for the rest of the time for our deaths. One, two, a few more are shouting Russia, and the rest are silent. They do not have a common opinion (we will go to work tomorrow, and in the evening we will have a meeting, and we will sleep at night....
  52. 0
    4 May 2014 14: 08
    Yesterday's Kramatorsk, one of the warm meetings
  53. 0
    4 May 2014 14: 09
    The second and equally important component is that the Ukrainians lost the war for their brains. Too well the Ukrainian media shoved into the heads of citizens the thought of bloody Putin, who dreams of seizing Ukraine.

    We, too, unfortunately, are losing the information war! In Ukraine, everyone was brainwashed for a long time and persistently. I can no longer communicate normally with my wife’s relatives (they live in Ukraine). Everyone thinks: Putin is a fascist, Russia is an aggressor! Why aren’t we waging an information war? During the first Chechnya we already came across this rake. But the article is good and correct! Contrary to the remarks of our haters and cheerleaders!
  54. bilibom
    0
    4 May 2014 14: 12
    Why should a Russian guy die for the South-East of Ukraine when the residents of these areas themselves do not want to provide serious resistance to the JUNTA?
    What we see: first, citizens surround an armored personnel carrier column with troops, and then these same compassionate people take out pies for the soldiers on armored personnel carriers - “oh, how hungry they are.” They are shot - they run away, “what can we do?” They are burned alive - "down with the governor..."
    Where is the resistance? I DO NOT SEE! Or do they think that Russia should “resist” for them, that Russian guys should die for THEIR freedom and peaceful life?
    No. You need to defend your freedom yourself. Well, RUSSIA will help with this with weapons and information, medicines and food. When will there be someone?
    Well, leading troops is an extreme case. Which I hope will not come.
  55. 0
    4 May 2014 14: 15
    Of course we must help. Weapons, equipment, ammunition. Provide information and moral support. But not our guys. I agree with the author of the article - the position of the majority of Ukrainians - “my house is on the edge” is very convenient - let Russia come and save. And yourself??? What did you do yourself? The fascists did not appear in Ukraine yesterday. They were conscientiously raised, educated, and rewarded. With complete silence from the people of Ukraine and the southeast as well. The Ukrainians themselves elected the pro-fascist Yushchenko for president and Tymoshenko for the Rada. The southeast was silent when Berkut fought on the Maidan, it was silent when there was still an opportunity to drive this moronic clique out of Kyiv without bloodshed. It was possible to defeat the right sector in the very bud, rather than remain silent. Did you think it would work out??? It didn't work out. And those writing comments here should not consider themselves smarter than our President while sitting in a chair at a computer. If you are itching to shoot or get a bullet in the head yourself, trains are still running to Ukraine.
  56. 0
    4 May 2014 14: 17
    delivering weapons to the militias is the first thing that needs to be done. When the mercenaries and Banderas find out how the militias are armed, they will be assed to do anything at all, but as for sending in troops, this is a last resort.
  57. +2
    4 May 2014 14: 23
    a couple of weeks (?) ago I came to the military registration and enlistment office, said, “I’m ready, call me, send me... they sent me through the forest and answered, they can handle it without you.” feel
    auto RU hi
  58. +1
    4 May 2014 14: 26
    Ukrainian fascism must be destroyed by the Ukrainians.
    The fathers and mothers of Ukrainian youth, who are now being used as the main striking force, could not help but know that for many years now fascist slogans have been shouted in schools in Ukraine (including in Odessa). Because it was put on a state basis with the permission of state-level leaders with a very slippery past, and who were chosen by these same parents (Yushchenko, Farion, etc.). The Americans, of course, took advantage of this (and most likely organized it). And in the current situation, it is not reliably known which side the majority in Ukraine is on.
    Of course, the Russian Armed Forces cannot be sent into Ukraine. And it is necessary to provide material support, right up to the training of special units of Ukrainian volunteers on our territory, for example, as the Polish People’s Army was trained during the Second World War. But this is long and painstaking work.
  59. +1
    4 May 2014 14: 30
    Guys, I’m sure Volodya has bright heads, better than ours, and all options are calculated 5 steps ahead.
    Personally, I think that the deployment of troops will be an extreme measure...will be used only in case of large human casualties, and they will become large only if the entire people of Ukraine rise up!!!
    At stake is not only ours and not ours in Ukraine, not only the Russian World is at stake, WORLD PEACE is in the balance, we need to make informed decisions, that’s it.
  60. -1
    4 May 2014 14: 33
    in fact, the author of the article just responds to the blatant slogans “Putin, FORWARD!”))))) the author is right - the Ukrainian people themselves must defeat this EVIL - the Bandera-ytsenyukhosshan infection in their country. Well, Russia should help in every possible way.
  61. +2
    4 May 2014 14: 34
    In two questions, the Author is right: we feel sorry for our guys, and the population of Ukraine is passive. But let's see what happens next. The defenders of Donbass will unfortunately be defeated (mainly because the population is passive). What happens next? Our Western partners (in this pair, unfortunately, we are from below) will achieve an improvement in the lives of at least some Ukrainians, and the Kyiv authorities will finally subjugate the population in anti-Russian hysteria. And the population will rally around them. Let us remember how the enlightened German people caved in to fascism. The rest of their idea will be the “liberation” of Crimea. The industry of Ukraine, with the help of the West, is able to rearm the army. War will begin, since fascism cannot live without war. How many Russian women and children will be burned then? The solution, in my opinion, is a non-contact war (examples: Yugoslavia, Libya). NATO did not lose a single soldier in these wars. By suppressing communication centers, destroying runways, bridges, roads, etc. the opponent is forced to lose. Naturally, a howl and sanctions will begin in the West. So they go anyway, even if we were angels in the flesh.
  62. 0
    4 May 2014 14: 34
    Where is the legitimate president, why doesn’t he raise the people to a fair fight, why isn’t he in the forefront. Or is it not time yet? Boys and girls are dying, but he still waits. Political pardon...ka. Berkut surrendered, betrayed the people, betrayed Ukraine. S.V.O.L.O.Ch.b (that’s what slaves were called in Rus', who fled to the Don from the tyranny of the landowners). This word has a different meaning am
  63. +2
    4 May 2014 14: 44
    History, if it doesn’t teach anyone, tends to repeat itself... The behavior of Western countries and the United States reminds me of playing with matches in a pyrotechnic warehouse...
    If you delve a little deeper into history, Hitler could have been stopped in 1923,1933, 1936... Don't turn a blind eye in 1939-1941... Flirting with him (Britain and France) Then the map of Europe would not be the same as it was in 42-4 year. By fruiting and supporting nationalist monsters, Europe and the United States are sawing off the branch of democracy on which they are sitting. Or maybe they themselves have a “Hydra” in the highest echelons of power (to paraphrase the new American film “The First Avenger”) and the XNUMXth Reich is already a REALITY? Surprising lack of a clear reaction from Israel. Their people, along with the people of the USSR, suffered the most from the terror of the Nazis. Are they really so afraid of the big American boot raised over their feet? Don’t want to lose the status of “strategic ally of the United States”?
    The inertia and lack of initiative of the Ukrainian people themselves is surprising. Hundredths of a percent of those who really disagree with the current policies of the authorities go to protests and actions. And this even applies to the eastern regions. Everyone is sitting on the couch watching TV. They are indignant and... waiting for the kind, silent Russian to come Vanya and will point you to CASH the homeland is in order!!!! I don’t want to upset you.... A young guy with a brainwashed brain, with a bat and a Molotov cocktail, will quickly come and knock on your apartment. And if you don’t shout out: “Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!” He will shove the TV remote control into your numb mouth... he will pour gasoline on you and set him on fire. It is easy to disperse a crowd of 200 -2000 people... But when 10 to 600 thousand gather in the square, this is already a terrible force. Your trouble is that you don’t have a leader capable of raising people as a single whole and leading them. It could have been Yanukovych, if he hadn’t shit his pants and fled to the Rostov region. And scattered pockets of resistance and indignation are very easy to suppress and drown out with brute force.
    Russia is also surprising. Where are the mass marches and actions in support of the east of Ukraine? Even the leading political parties don’t lift a finger to do this. Where is the collection of food, medicine and basic necessities for the besieged cities of Slavyansk, Kramatorsk, Donetsk? They sent Lukin to rescue the foreigners observers... It would be better if they sent a couple of boxes of man-portable air defense systems and a hundred zinc with cartridges...
    Odessa showed the true face of the Kyiv authorities. When burning people are called Colorado beetles and rejoice at how they die... It is impossible to imagine the height of cynicism, cruelty and moral decline.
    IF THIS HYDRA IS NOT KILLED IN THE BUDDY, only God knows where and to what extent its tentacles will sprout.
    Today is Ukraine...And tomorrow is We????
    1. circumcircle
      0
      4 May 2014 15: 11
      I support. Merkel and Obama are already discussing the next sanctions against Russia after the elections on May 25, if the south-east of UKRAINE does not calm down, after murders and other abominations. Obviously, Russia is being put under pressure in any way and the hell they will stop putting pressure on, they’re putting pressure on for the wrong reason. The pretext is any .Attempts to hide behind press secretaries, to endlessly clean guns that were screwed up by those to whom this was directed, to evade direct deliveries so as not to be accused
      in the long term they will not give anything. Russian-speaking Poles and Balts are developing the border area with Russia for what? In this situation, the stormtroopers of the Kyiv Reich will soon look at Voronezh, Rostov, Kursk and Belgorod and will offer bargaining in exchange for non-aggression. New "Branderburg". I am getting closer and closer to the conclusion that the mad dog of the civilized West was necessary earlier in history and is necessary now strangle. Some would have the desire, and everything else would follow. But don’t expect them to leave you. They’ll come up with a bunch of idiotic approaches that your destruction is the hand of God. “God is with us” was on the Nazis’ belts.
  64. -1
    4 May 2014 15: 27
    I agree 100%. You can’t help the people if...only for your loved one to feel good, no matter what faith you live with in your soul. We need to help, but not send our guys
  65. 0
    4 May 2014 15: 30
    I would like to remind you of the opinion
  66. +1
    4 May 2014 15: 31
    To help the brothers in the fight is a holy thing. But - just help. Automata, cartridges, bronchik, RPG shots, medicines. All that is needed. But not the lives of our sons. We have scattered them a lot. Afghanistan, Karabakh, Chechnya ... too much.
  67. zol1
    +4
    4 May 2014 15: 32
    Russia has nowhere to retreat; it has already received a black mark anyway. They will still put pressure on her now, but from the territory of Ukraine.

    And he is absolutely right about this! The bridges have been burned, there is no turning back, and therefore whether we like it or not, we will have to fight either now, when the fascist hydra is not so strong, or later, when they attack us en masse and then it will be too late! Think Russia, think!
    We have already surrendered the Slavs in the Balkans...
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  69. +4
    4 May 2014 15: 37
    minus article. Do you want to sit out, Roman? will not work. Russia is already drawn into the war. South Ossetia, Transnistria, Donbass... either you surrender or you fight. economic methods and sabotage are openly involved. Do you think there are fires every year in Russia by themselves? and the actions of Una-Unso in Chechnya and Georgia are not open war? no matter that you haven’t gotten off the couch, you are openly accused of all sins.
    py.sy. But your pacifism doesn’t allow the fascists to turn off the gas?
  70. Vladislav Dolganin
    0
    4 May 2014 15: 44
    Let's start with the fact that the Russian Federation supported Crimea at one time and made it clear to SE Ukraine to separate from Ukraine as a separate state through a referendum. The GDP itself has repeatedly repeated that if everyone wants to come to the Russian Federation, we will not be able to refuse. What happens? This point of view was imposed on us, but we accepted and want to join or become a separate state... it doesn’t matter. Note who the right-wing ultras and others like them are - students born in 85-95, a new brainwashed generation, and what remains - older people or people brought up by old USSR traditions who believe in Stalin and the greatness of Russia, about 50% of the population are people of retirement age and everyone is for Putin . Who will go to war? Do you need everyone to come out and start beating the Nazis? Yes, an old lady with a Faustpatron is around the corner. Where is the promised help to Russia? What to expect? There will be no Armageddon!! The EU grabbed Crimea and also grabbed the South East... no one will do anything!!
    1. circumcircle
      0
      4 May 2014 18: 06
      It’s very unpleasant, but you are right in the saying “The truth stings the eyes.” The fire did not flare up there until the couples were thrown in and the oil was added. But to the same great regret, it turns out that the Crimean history was an accident. February had not happened in Kiev. And fairy tales about the fact that everyone there was preparing fairy tales. But there is one thing that is undeniable.
      All the “holds” or the establishment of influence had army bases behind them, like in Transnistria. And it’s not the SE there that we will save, but the flank of the Crimea and our front. It’s a pity for our peers, so give equipment, riflemen rations and medical aid at least
      - and the guys from the southeast will already want to shake out the criminals from Kyiv.
  71. 0
    4 May 2014 15: 56
    Quote: MainBeam
    Who was brainwashed? Are we brothers or one Slavic people?

    This position is not much different from "My hut on the edge":


    Open your eyes!
    We've been brainwashed since '90. As a result, we do not have the USSR, but the post-Soviet space. We allowed our industry and science to collapse and create millionaires and billionaires who export capital abroad. We allowed our economy to become so dependent on the West. Among our media there are much more liberoid ones than patriotic ones. Now, thank God, there has been a turn in the right direction, but what 23 years have been falling apart in 2 months cannot be put back together even to a first approximation.
    We were one people, but we are unlikely to be one people with the Galicians. With the others, we have been living in different countries for 23 years. Some of them always considered themselves Ukrainian, and this is very important to them. All our Liberoid scum hung out there as teachers. I have a colleague who spent his holidays in Kerch and regularly watched UkrTV there. So Tyagnibog was “promoted” by Shuster. He invited this then little-known nationalist to each of his programs! Over these 23 years they have been “teaching” young people. Those girls in Odessa who filled bottles with Molotov cocktails for ultras are one example. (And how and who taught the younger generation?!? Like that!)
    Our huts are nearby, but this is not one hut. And now it’s very stressful for us to have conflicts with the most prosperous part of the village, because... We rent most of the equipment and tools from them. They organized their farm this way, and taught the children to do it.
    1. So for now, they are only help. Weapons, medicine, money, instructors and just volunteers. About the same as in Spain before the Second World War. Well, you can’t send in troops when only 5% of the population actively supports “us”!!!
    2. You need to immediately deal with your 5th column in full. Block them on the Internet. To respond to all their demonstrations with our own, no less numerous.
    3. We generally need to fight the liberoid ideology that dominates us now. But this, like the previous point, must be done not with your hands, but with your head. I believe that Kurginyan is the most “correct” here. For those who haven't been, go to eot.su. But keep in mind that even familiarization will take at least several hours. Yes, not for free, you'll have to sit and read. And then work as a team. Otherwise, they will organize a 2nd perestroika for us, mainly with our own forces, just like the 1st.
    4. If they rise as a majority, and not 500 people each, as in Odessa, then most likely no deployment of troops will be required. They have light weapons that can destroy everything except aircraft at high altitude. And there are much more former military men there than there are currently militias.
    5. If the junta begins to effectively use its advantage in heavy equipment, then in my opinion it is possible to break it with a quick raid. And don’t break some of the equipment and hand it over to the militia. But lingering there is contraindicated! Although an operation to seize equipment and/or agitation/bribe part of the army can and should be carried out by “unofficial” + internal forces. There will be much fewer sanctions. And sanctions may be painful for a significant part of the population.
    P.s. I am 55 years old, there are no military men among my relatives, I will not feel disadvantaged if I only have to eat cabbage soup and porridge. So, nothing personal... And whoever is very “ardent” and knows something in military affairs - volunteer! If you want, you will find where and how. But guys, it’s better to leave the documents in a safe place and not carry them around with you...
  72. fbn
    fbn
    0
    4 May 2014 16: 06
    It is difficult to fight fascism alone; they are helped by scum of all stripes from all over the world. Our President needs to provide comprehensive support to the militias - military, material, ideological. At the moment, troops cannot be sent in openly. There are quite a lot of hidden ways of support. We need to help move towards a new life, and not pull on the lasso. The article, of course, is controversial.
  73. I am Russian
    +1
    4 May 2014 16: 37
    Ukraine is a country of talkers and......banned and deleted by moderator Apollo
    you get high from elections and kill
    ***
    schizophrenia from Shuster LIVE 02-05-2014
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbrw0LDfF6w
    ***


    *
    **
    ***
    Who is to Blame for Everything in Ukraine?
    you yourself allowed this to happen, you chose them, kept quiet,
    my house is on the edge...
    *
    Putin-Russia, They are doing everything RIGHT,
    Why should Russian soldiers die?
    2-meter bulls sit at home and ask for help
    COWARDS - your miners, metallurgists, etc.
    Yes, don’t worry about it, Putin said correctly, you brewed it yourself, and disentangle it yourself,
    We will put the West and the United States in the pose of Rex, there is no need to offend GREAT RUSSIA!
    ***
    ****
    SHAME ON THE POLITICAL IMPOTENTS!!!! MEN of Ukraine - where are you
    -why are you sitting in diapers on the sofas and near the computers -PANTIES
    ****
    Very BRAVE girl!!!
    Daughter of Armenia and Citizen of Great RUSSIA!!!
    LifeNews correspondent Ermina Kotanjyan

    ***
    LifeNews correspondent under bullets spoke about the assault on Slavyansk
    *
    WILL TURN TO V.V. Putin - Award the girl the Order "FOR COURAGE"
    *
    VIDEO - http://lifenews.ru/news/132496

    1. +5
      4 May 2014 17: 48
      Quote: I'm Russian
      schizophrenia from Shuster LIVE 02-05-2014

      and here's how he screwed up))))
  74. kuksha
    +1
    4 May 2014 16: 47
    Most people living in Ukraine call us Putin's slaves.
    and they are free people.
    Freedom is choice and responsibility for that choice.
    the whole world knows that power is a thief.
    2010 in Belarus, the people did not support the attempt at Maidan.
    "Bolotniki" in Moscow.
    Belarusians and Russians reasoned: why change the thieves. These will steal and do something for the people to keep what they stole. And why shake a bad house. It will bury you under its ruins.
    and this “people”?
    every 4 years they jump on the Maidan and exchange the stolen government for another hungry one.
    What bad did Yanukovych do to them idiots?
    where is the court ruling that he is a thief?
    as of February 2014, Ukraine received and received in cooperation with Russia:
    12 billion in gas prices.
    2 billion debt for gas.
    35 billion under enterprise agreements.
    12 billion loan without any conditions.
    and it's official.
    what would they get from Europe and the USA? (and what did they get)
    Representatives from all over Ukraine are organizing a peaceful Maidan.
    sign agreement 21.o2, and 22 receive pravosekov.
    they are stolen, killed, burned alive, and what about them?
    'miners demand higher wages' (several mines)
    people who do not know how to defend themselves fall into oblivion.
    and these are my brothers? brothers on the barricades.
    No matter how cynical it sounds, count how many people died in Odessa and how they died,
    which tried to negotiate peacefully with the junta
    and in Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. 'It is stupider to go into attacks on armed self-defense'
    all their military might cannot take these two cities.
    The pravoseki have tasted blood, they will kill and declare it a provocation of the FSB.
    they will have to take up arms now or when they are halved.
  75. +5
    4 May 2014 16: 48
    where is the logic? near the Ministry of Internal Affairs building in Odessa, 100 people demand the release of detained relatives. At the monument to Duke, several hundred people from the right sector are celebrating the victory. why not several thousand from the Ministry of Internal Affairs and not one from the Duke? Are 1,5 million people really intimidating the city? I don’t understand how you can ask for help from the GDP, but do nothing yourself. Russia, do you want a laundress to wash your dirty linen? Well, get your asses off the couch, move away from the garden beds in the country. show who is the boss in the city. help to win freedom for those who fight for it
  76. GREAT RUSSIA
    +2
    4 May 2014 16: 49
    Ukrainian fascism must be destroyed by the Ukrainians.
    We see how this fascism is being destroyed. Of the several hundred thousand representatives of the youth and older generation, only tens of thousands took to the streets to defend themselves. Well, of course, mother’s boys and father’s kidneys. This is what is called selfish indifference.
    Then what happens if we don’t send in troops, so what? The fascists will exterminate everyone, including daddy’s kidneys and mother’s sons. But it’s only too late. And then there will be muttering, like, why didn’t the Russians send in troops? They will bring in troops, but these cowards don’t want to take part in protecting the nation and the interests of the people, let it remain a burden for them for the rest of their pathetic, insignificant selfish life.
    I don’t care, like many others, about the rhetoric that Ukraine could become the third Afghanistan (the second is Chechnya), because in both cases ours were on the verge of victory, but the moronic command and the cries of politicians who don’t understand shit, for whom the costs more important than the honor of the state and the sacrifices of the people led to collapse. But this race is not going to help politicians and like-minded people, but to help their own people. And here such talk about the third Afghanistan should become a crime, since they don’t care about the fate of their own brothers.
  77. I am Russian
    0
    4 May 2014 17: 36
    There is NOT and WILL NOT be more important than anything in the world than LIFE!!!

    Shame on the men of Ukraine - pensioners, older people stand up against the junta, pp and fascism

    Why the hell should Russia send its sons to die in Ukraine?
    No
    NO NO
    No no no
  78. +7
    4 May 2014 17: 39
    Odessa was burned by the Maidan fire.
    Demons walk with the fire of Maidan.
    The degenerates, the fiends of hell, are walking, -
    Rotten souls, stupid herd!
    Creatures are walking across Ukraine,
    Like pigs in a temple gnawing on shrines,
    Like pigs in a temple - they eat and shit...
    Thoroughly soaked in corpse poison
  79. +2
    4 May 2014 18: 40
    Lugansk militias are ready to go to war against Kyiv.

    "The Lugansk City Internal Affairs Directorate invited employees to take families out of the city. An assault with the use of tanks and artillery is expected in the near future. Residents of the city are not afraid of the offensive of the national guard forces formed by the new Kiev troops. According to them, they intend to stand to the end and support the decision of the people Governor of the Lugansk region Valery Bolotov on the mobilization of the male population of the region and the introduction of a curfew.

    “We are gathering an army and will go to capture Kyiv,” says the people’s governor of the Lugansk region, head of the self-defense headquarters of the southeast, Valery Bolotov. In fact, the leader of the Lugansk militias declared war on Kyiv. But, according to him, it was not he who started it, but the illegitimate government, which is conducting a punitive operation throughout the southeast.

    According to Bolotov, the detachments will go to Kyiv through the Donetsk region. First you need to liberate Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. Lugansk is moving to martial law as of today. There is a curfew from eleven in the evening to six in the morning. Patrols are already being formed, and policemen who have not sworn allegiance to the people are being disarmed. At this post, the traffic police officers were left with only protective equipment - bulletproof vests. Police officers without Lugansk registration were completely required to leave the city immediately. In case of provocations, the soldiers of the army of the southeast have orders to shoot to kill. Mobilization has been announced throughout the region.

    Now the army has 2 thousand soldiers, but the SBU stores have up to 10 thousand small arms. And new militias will receive it. And it looks like it won’t take long to find new militias. Even at night, all the Lugansk barricades were seething with news from Odessa and the Donetsk region. One got the impression that if people had weapons, they would go on a campaign right now."
    http://warfiles.ru/show-54848-luganskie-opolchency-gotovy-idti-voynoy-na-kiev.ht
    ml
  80. rocketman
    0
    4 May 2014 18: 45
    Quote: zaboyschik
    And yes, there are Russians here, maybe twenty percent Ukrainians, and even then purely theoretically, for example, I don’t know anyone like that.

    don't worry, we are there. For example, I received a minus five thousand rating for truth. You will become one of your own only when you agree with the majority in everything.
  81. vlad46
    0
    4 May 2014 18: 57
    The article is reasonable but incomplete. It is impossible to compare the South-East with Crimea. Firstly, there were 15000 polite people there, and it is clear that right-wingers will not stick there in large numbers, and secondly, this is Russia not so long ago.
    Here is a comment from a resident of Slavyansk from the VO website:

    _Forgiven_ UA Yesterday, 11:57 | The situation in the southeast of Ukraine. Chronicle of events. May 3
    Yes, and then you go to my place and feed your wife and baby in my place, get money. There are practically no weapons, and if they give it, then only a stick. And the time of sticks, dear, is long gone! I have time to be there and there, but you only manage to get smart at VO. Therefore, not knowing the situation, do not speak big words

    one more thing :
    Chronicle of events. May 3
    And you try to go out of town! A bunch of women snipers from the Baltic states are sitting in the woods and firing at all the cars. Armor and dol.bany guard with pravosekami beat with Kalash on everything that moves. Here on the site you are a hero, and you come to me in Slavyansk and show your ardor. Yesterday, I barely got home from work with Red Liman, I was afraid as if they wouldn’t shoot a car on the road

    And that’s what to do, you need to protect, but who will provide for the family, little can happen.

    This is where we must create a “Fund for Assistance to the South-East”, and not privately here on the website, but loudly throughout Russia and it should be headed by a person well-known here and in Ukraine. And such a person is Govorukhin (“The meeting place cannot be changed” the whole USSR watched, at least it was proposed). And in no case should V.V. Putin interfere. - he does his job, and we do what he cannot
    This is the first and the second

    It is necessary to create: A certificate of a neutral (legitimate) soldier of the Ukrainian Army, which would indicate a collection point (each one in a given area) and there he will be watered, fed and go to the bathhouse. He will sleep on white sheets. Or something similar.
    My father served in 1943-1944 in Smersh and he said that propaganda was of great importance there. Our passes were especially used by Slovaks.
    These certificates must be presented when blocking armored vehicles.

    I’m writing speculatively, Chelyabinsk “ROT FRONT” should publish an article now
    “What Putin can’t do” and an appeal to Govorukhin. But they have been writing and editing it for a week, and time is running out, people are dying.

    Perhaps someone has a way to the top - let me know.
  82. +5
    4 May 2014 18: 59
    Quote: delfinN
    It does not come through the ears. It comes only through the "horn compartment" and the right hook.
    Pravosek started talking about the need for dialogue - MIRACLE!!!
  83. +1
    4 May 2014 19: 13
    For several days now I have been in a state of severe depression due to my own powerlessness in the face of circumstances. And the further I go, the more I fall into it. I hoped that just a little more, just a little more, the spark of popular indignation would flare up and the flame of a popular uprising would ignite, but...Where is all this? Glory to the Heroes of the Resistance, but... Indeed: WHAT else needs to happen after Odessa for the Ukrainians to understand: NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO SIT OUT????
    You still have to decide. After all, under the rule of the Banderlogs, they are still not in danger of a quiet life. Doesn’t even a small internal protest arise at the sight of these terrible events??? After all, Absolute evil has already happened! What kind of impenetrable armor must a soul be dressed in in order to meekly carry its hard-earned money to Kolomoisky’s bank to repay a loan at the moment when people are being burned??? But there was a story where one young man talks about his salary, loan, food prices in response to the question: “Do you support the protests?” True, he promised that if everyone rises, then... Everything is bad.
    1. usn2garin
      0
      4 May 2014 19: 52
      http://rutube.ru/video/00037990d37f16d8e0adb75ae9a40092/?ref=logo

      Here is a very specific action plan for the near future from a person who has considerable experience in this.
  84. typhoon7
    +1
    4 May 2014 19: 59
    Quote: cosmos111
    if Russia now does not support the South-East, militarily, US RUSSIA, they will be damned !!!!!

    I subscribe to your comment. There were so many slogans, “Russians don’t abandon their own,” and that’s what you’re wearing, handle it as you wish.
  85. +1
    4 May 2014 20: 00
    The author of the article is a young, cowardly and stupid man, not like his grandfather, a hero of the Great Patriotic War. Shame on the family that raised such a talker.
  86. Platov
    -1
    4 May 2014 20: 11
    With the statement that my house is on the edge, there is a chance that you will remain close to your elbow, which you can’t bite off. The outskirts themselves must figure everything out; there’s no point in sending guys from Pskov there.
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  88. 0
    4 May 2014 20: 40
    Quote: GreatRussia
    Inhumans in Odessa shot, burned, cut off limbs

    I looked at some of the indicated addresses on the networks, those that had not yet closed their pages.
    Thank you! There are interesting specimens.... Unfortunately, we must admit it as a fact, the specimens are completely damaged and, despite their youth, they will not succumb to re-education, they are hopelessly sick. Trials in the civil war are only for pro forma. Option one...... am
  89. 0
    4 May 2014 20: 41
    ...Is there something I don’t understand in this global “MASHHOUSE”? ...maybe I went to the wrong school?
    Why is no one in the WORLD still demanding to stop this chaos that is happening in the territory bordering us, and to punish the perpetrators in accordance with existing laws?
    Why then have all sorts of states, courts, law enforcement agencies, including international ones, been inventing them for thousands of years?
    ...So, someone can not give a damn about all these “FICTIONS” of humanity and do whatever they want, but maybe I can’t? ...what if I just don’t like someone’s facial profile?
  90. 0
    4 May 2014 20: 50
    According to this logic, Stalin did not have to cross the border of Nazi Germany:
    1. The people of Germany did not rebel against Hitler.
    2. No one expected the people of Germany to support the Soviet Army.
    3. The West also did not want the USSR to occupy Germany. Immediately after the end of World War II, the West immediately began a “cold” war against the USSR (with sanctions and so on).
  91. zzz
    zzz
    +1
    4 May 2014 20: 55
    From Ineta:
    Self-defense forces of Lugansk "opened" the Russian-Ukrainian border

    Self-defense forces of Lugansk "opened" the Russian-Ukrainian border | Russian spring
    Self-defense forces of Lugansk "opened" the Russian-Ukrainian border
    Near s. Yuganovka Lugansk region armed self-defense fighters blocked the border guards and, under the threat of using weapons, were taken away to an unknown destination. This is stated in the official message of the Ministry of Internal Affairs:

    “3 May in 15: 50 received a message from the duty department of the State Border Service of Ukraine that 3 May in 15: 10 is near s. Uganovka (Stanichno-Lugansk region) armed unidentified persons under threat of use of weapons were forcibly taken away in an unknown direction to the servicemen of the Border Service Department of the Village of Luganskaya, armed with service guns who served in the Niva service vehicle, the message said.

    Thus, the first "corridor" at the border is opened.
    1. zzz
      zzz
      0
      4 May 2014 21: 23
      Little Russia Ukraine
      20: 06 4 May
      Don’t look for the creatures who organized the Odessa “Khatyn” at home addresses - they are not there. They are all at the Albatross recreation center, not far from Ilyichevsk.
      The base is very well guarded, including by the police. All this
      was planned in advance. Similar massacres are planned for May 9 in the cities of the Odessa region. These creatures are well trained, they all have injuries, and they also have firearms. TRANSFER to Odessa and nearby cities.
  92. 0
    4 May 2014 21: 14
    Konstantin Simonov Kill him! (If your home is dear to you)
  93. +1
    4 May 2014 21: 32
    I completely agree with the author. Throughout my life I always adhere to the thought: “He who fights for life survives, his own, that of his family and friends.” My father-in-law (served for 7 years on the borders of the USSR from the end of 1944 to 1951) says that the worst thing was in Western Ukraine, when they went to the toilet under the cover of a fellow machine gunner. Good neighbors during the day, a bullet in the back of the head or a knife in the side at night...
    Putin is doing the right thing. Waiting for the accumulation of a critical mass of active people in the Southeast. Tries to play out different situations. Point of no return - May 9!!! The confrontation will be extreme. Worldviews, historical parallels. Only a few days until the promised referendums and elections. The cynically calculating puppeteers of the “world order” will back down, postponing their plans for later, or FORCE Russia to take surgical actions...
  94. +1
    4 May 2014 21: 34
    Censorship on the site has increased, but given the situation, I agree with this.
  95. 0
    4 May 2014 21: 35
    V S E to Kyiv! Kyiv must be taken (..like Carthage, at any cost) And judge ALL - "juntas and juntas," judged by the WHOLE world! And so that this will be remembered for CENTURIES!
    ...(or even less than a century has passed, and the Nuremberg Tribunal has already been forgotten)
    JUDGE in such a way that EVERYONE is remembered and ALWAYS!
    1. zzz
      zzz
      0
      4 May 2014 21: 58
      From the Internet. TOP The victims of Odessa were not in vain: the Nazis will not live
      4 May 2014, Empire

      Odessa has started a countdown. The time for surprises begins. Pleasant for us - and fair revenge is always pleasant. And mortally unpleasant for Nazi collaborators, all sorts of “Euromaidanists”, “Automaidanovites”, Balabs, Zheldaks and Valetovs, “Pravoseks”, Nazi literary figures, Kyiv Nazi leaders.
      Last night showed that the sacrifices in Odessa were not in vain.
      The people in the South-East have finally realized that the war is not between some incomprehensible factions that cannot share power. The war is with a people who do not want to accept the “national-fascist” ideology.
      Yesterday many woke up with the thought that this was THEIR war. That is why yesterday people en masse signed up for the squads in Lugansk and Donbass. There were so many people willing that the leadership of the LPR and DPR switched from defense to offensive. Apparently, 2 aid battalions from Crimea are also already in place (there was a panic on Nazi resources at night that “Cossacks” from Rostov, in groups of several dozen people, were taking control of strategic points in different cities).

      Donetsk and Lugansk have been completely taken under control, which puts an end to the question of “Who is the real power in Donbass.” Now this is obvious even to ordinary Maidan residents. The toothless attempts of punitive forces in Kramatorsk, as expected, ended in nothing. From today they will be forced to switch to strategic defense (no, there will be all sorts of raids on cities. But this will no longer be a suppression operation, but an operation for the “picture”).
      Moreover, this defense will be in accordance with all the rules. If previously the punitive forces could calmly retreat and regroup, soon they will no longer have such an opportunity. As soon as the armed forces of the Donbass republics are coordinated, they will launch an offensive against the junta’s positions. And the nationalists have no chance of maintaining these positions (this will not happen tomorrow, but very soon).
      And in the rear of the punitive forces, a people’s war will flare up. Odessa Khatyn set the brains of many armchair fighters. And it gave the activists anger and determination. And Kharkov, and Zaporozhye, and Dnieper and Nikolaev and Kherson, and especially Odessa, will very soon turn into “damned cities” for the Nazis.


      Source
      Traveler's comment:
      Dear yurasumy, as last time, he understands everything correctly. And what he lacks in knowledge he makes up for with a magnificent analytical mind.
      I will pay special attention to Kyiv. The situation there is heating up. Today, it looks like an attempt will be made to throw Turchinov-Tymoshenko off the throne. Western sponsors of the Nazis are simply beside themselves with the fact that the incompetent Kiev junta not only failed the operation to suppress the South-East, but also buried the idea of ​​​​building a Nazi Ukrainian state by allowing the “Odessa massacre” to be senseless and merciless. People on May 2 saw WHO IS WHO. And of course this junta will not be forgiven either in the East or in the West or in the territory that used to be Ukraine.

      If only you knew now what I know. :) Friends, the time for surprises begins. Pleasant for us - and fair revenge is always pleasant. And mortally unpleasant for Nazi collaborators, all sorts of “Euromaidanists”, “Automaidanovites”, Balabs, Zheldaks and Valetovs, “Pravoseks”, Nazi literary figures, Kyiv Nazi leaders.

      “Let these ashes, which were the hearts of the brave Odessa residents, the “Heroes of May 2”, be forever on our chests, like the flame of revenge on Bandera’s executioners.”

      The ashes of Odessa are knocking on our hearts.
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  97. ASASHOKA
    0
    4 May 2014 22: 42
    Quote: andj61
    Quote: NIKAVIZ
    Go in SCOPE and Arm ... they will not spare you.


    Definitely not regret it. In Odessa, they did not spare the elderly and women!


    The woman with the scythe (watching TV), WHISPERING, talking with others like her, talking about May 9 and Odessa, said: “There is a need for provocation and an attack on the veterans whom we call veterans...”. The bitch won't calm down!!!!
  98. 0
    4 May 2014 23: 35
    Ukrainian fascism must be destroyed by the Ukrainians.
  99. 0
    4 May 2014 23: 41
    the people of Russia have already managed to take part in the battle against ukrofashism - everyone told their Ukrainian acquaintance what they think on all items on the agenda - and this is a serious input that sobered up the UK and cleared their minds
  100. blackberry
    +1
    4 May 2014 23: 44
    Quote: irina.mmm
    In Crimea, almost all the people went to rallies and asked for help from Russia. But what happens here? They proclaim a republic and cancel it the next day. There are 120 thousand people in Slavyansk, 2000 in the militia. And the anti-terrorist operation is a joke. They will reach the Donbass just before the elections. And where is the “rebellious” Kharkov, Nikolaev. Where are the miners, they are on strike until they acquaintances and relatives are being killed. Those who betrayed them, first of all, they themselves do not want change. But they don’t want to join Russia, they can do everything with someone else’s hands, and then they can go to the EU. But I feel sorry for Odessa. People passed by like observers, filming with cameras. ...
    We have sanctions, we have problems, and they will make their own revolution at home. By the way, when there was Crimea and Kharkov and Donetsk they suddenly fell silent about the referendum, let’s see how it will be. And no one dragged the Crimeans by the scruff of the neck. Yes, those who fight now are heroes. And those who died are glory, but Russia must help their families.

    How dare you open your mouth, you Ablyazov louse?! You’re definitely not Russian, not from Kazakhstan, you’re sitting in fucking Europe, peeing, you bastard, for an annual miner’s salary. Get out, you abomination, before I take care of your IP addresses and add them to the list of right-wingers!

    People, don’t listen to her, there are no Russians in Kazakhstan who would tease the Kazakhs by joining, the first thing Nazarbayev did after the collapse of the Union was to demarcate all the borders, all cross-border cooperation agreements were perfected like a jeweler, and now these Kazakh hodors and liberal banking have decided to bring about the Ukrainian war power to come! These creatures - some barely managed to escape, now they are portraying Lenin in exile, they publish lousy newspapers like Eurasia-org, Assandi-Time, some others, I don’t remember now, others are sitting in banks, bought with our pension money, they get it in the face every time They poke, the banking rules have become so strict - you can’t make a peep, so they get mad.

    They are pushing this kind of crap - it’s scary to read, and underneath it all they have one idea - the Russians want our land and will bury our language. The Presidents, whether ours or yours, answer them almost every week - no, the main thing is peace, even if there are two countries - no, these bitches don’t want that!

    Admin, it would be fair to ban me, even forever, I admit, but how these creatures became more active, they even lost caution, they are in such a hurry!
    1. +1
      5 May 2014 01: 21
      Do not worry! We don't listen to provocateurs. We do not see any refugees from Kazakhstan or guest workers in Russia. So everything is fine with you, which we are very happy about. Live happily and we will be better off because everything is fine with you. And I personally really like Nazarbayev, a very smart president who loves his people. Kazakhstan was lucky to have a leader, not like Ukraine.
    2. irina.mmm
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      6 May 2014 15: 13
      We are simple Russians from southern Kazakhstan, we were born and raised here. We haven’t seen Ablyazov, they have their own juzes - there’s no place for us there. I just think that we can’t even gather Russians for a rally. It’s painful and insulting. Ukraine is everywhere where If the Russians wouldn’t gather, there would be pain, resentment and fear. By the way, last year we killed 12 people (Greek, the rest Russians) in one night, so what. It’s still not clear who and why. After Zhirinovsky’s statements, everything is very We were very tense, and we had to make excuses, urge Nazarbayev not to inflate things - the main thing is peace and friendship. By the way, our average salary is $400, and what should we do in Europe? I didn’t want to offend anyone. And the Ablyazovskys... won’t write here - they don’t need it. Why do we Russians living in Kazakhstan make you so nervous? We don’t have sugar here, Kazakh is the state language, just go to your Russia , you’re nobody here. Many have already left, many people think. It’s good that things are calm here for now.