Fantasy on Maidan theme

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Fantasy on Maidan theme


The scenario of the collapse of Ukraine may not be so fantastic

What could be the worst scenario for Ukraine in developing a crisis situation in the country? Do the European Union, the United States and Russia intervene? How will the Ukrainian army react? Newspaper VIEW attempted hypothetically to imagine how exactly events on the Maidan could lead, if not disintegration, then to the collapse of a state called Ukraine.

Warn immediately - this is a fantasy genre, close to anti-utopia. And I would very much like that, as described further, it did not happen. But sometimes it is useful to show both hotheads and romantics of every kind of revolution, how and how the carelessly started revolutions in patchwork countries that have not fully settled and firmly on their feet end. And where the transition from real events to fantasy begins - now depends only on the time of day and the choice that certain people make at the forks of political fate.
So.

The situation at the moment does not inspire optimism. In Kiev, parliamentary opposition leaders have practically lost control even over Independence Square, not to mention the militants around it. "Trident" begins to reach the government quarter from the rear along Institutskaya Street. New groups of armed youth appear with unclear political views that seize government buildings and offices on Khreshchatyk, turning them into their headquarters. Barricades grow up around the occupied territory, in some places up to three meters high.

In Kiev, a certain parallel system of power, the so-called People’s is pleased, is announced, but it is not clear by whom and how it controls and what it seeks. The only intelligible slogan uniting all oppositionists and militants is the total resignation of all: the president, government, administration, city hall, the dissolution of parliament.

What is happening already a day in the province, especially in Galicia and Volyn, is certainly not controlled by the Kiev center of the opposition and, it seems, is not at all connected with the stated political slogans. Administrative buildings in Lviv, Ternopil, Rivne, Lutsk, Kovel, and Ivano-Frankivsk are seized by nationalist groups. The siege of authorities began in Chernivtsi and Zhytomyr. The attack on the executive branch in Cherkassy and Poltava is repelled only after the arrival of reinforcements.

The coup in Galicia begins to gain relief and scale. Armed groups are blocking the special division of the SBU "Griffin", which for some reason has chosen for itself the headquarters of a psycho-neurological dispensary. The next step is the armed blockade of the barracks in Lviv itself, as well as the air base in Stryi. Similar measures are being taken by nationalist groups against military units in Ivano-Frankivsk, Rivne and Ternopil. Earlier, on the orders of the government, a significant part of the officers from the garrison of Ivano-Frankivsk were transferred closer to the capital, which seemed justified a couple of days ago, and today it leads to loss of controllability of loyal units in Galicia. The only step to establish full control over most of the western regions remains the seizure of arsenals, which was already hinted at by Deutsche Welle.

The crowd is blocking government buildings in Chernivtsi. The leadership of Moldova and Romania miraculously responds to this, demanding security for the Romanian-speaking population. The Rusyn population of Transcarpathia yesterday, for some reason, turned to President Putin for help, ignoring the power in Kiev — apparently not believing in its capacity. It is possible that because of the Carpathians, this is exactly the way it seems. The Hungarian government, which last week bound itself with a series of economic treaties with Moscow, is silent. Yes, and the Hungarian national minority in Transcarpathia is beyond the threats of nationalists, among whom the slogans about the “European choice” are almost unheard of. More "Glory to the heroes!"
On the federal roads from Lviv, Rovno and Kovel, checkpoints were set up from aggressive nationalist-minded young people, which block movement including heavy trucks, which leads to local clashes with the police, in which the police are defeated due to the small number and lack of an order to use weapons. Transport communication with Europe and the western regions is practically interrupted.
The situation in Kiev remains borderline. There is no political rhetoric about the European Union for a long time. There is only “Golden Eagle” and militants. Negotiations of the “legal” opposition and the government are finally broken, and there is not even a hint that an agenda can be formed for a new meeting between Yanukovych and Klitschko. The President conducts several personnel castling at the Security Service of Ukraine and the Administration, freeing himself from ballast in the face of those who are hesitant or seen in close proximity to financial groups that provide the opposition. The embassies of Western countries in Kiev, although they are not in the conflict zone, are put under heavy guard, which, among other things, fixes everyone who goes in and out. This, however, does not prevent opposition leaders from receiving cash delivered by diplomatic mail for the purchase of supplies for the Maidan. Moreover, each visit by the leaders of the "legal opposition" of the Western embassies causes another escalation of violence in the center of Kiev.

The Russian embassy is silent like a fish on ice. The instructions coming from Moscow require complete "non-interference in internal affairs."

"Golden eagle" catastrophically tired. In total, there are four thousand special forces from different regions and about 20 thousand conscripts of internal troops and cadets in the capital. Shifts are eight hours. The soldiers and officers are extremely angry at all the Protestants, and not only at the right-wing militants. Despite the permission of the Minister of Internal Affairs to fire at a life threatening situation, they never received any ammunition. The temperature drops to –20. The soldiers are fed up by the Kievans, but the supply is still lagging, since the militants of the so-called auto-mobility group begin to block the roads to Kiev, especially from the western and southern sides. At the same time, the supply of various militant groups in the city center and in Podol is perfectly adjusted. From somewhere, gasoline and kerosene for “Molotov cocktails”, the winter camouflage form of the NATO sample, helmets, expensive tires, Turkish warmed tents for Maidan, gauze bandages, gas masks, food and water are formed by themselves.
The government does not have the right to use loyal military units, since no state of emergency has been formally introduced. Nevertheless, Chernigov’s second alarm was already raised. tank regiment (former Soviet tank training center) as the closest to the capital. Armored vehicles are ready to block the Brovary airport, but it is unclear why and why such an order can be given. Rumors are circulating among the officers that they are preparing to ensure Yanukovych’s flight from the country, and they don’t like it at all.

The information war reaches its climax, as the broadcasting of TV channels can be disrupted at any moment and people are increasingly beginning to feed on rumors. At the same time, the militants in Kiev coherently coordinate their actions through the Internet in general and social networks in particular. In the regions, an information vacuum is gradually formed, since government resources, as always in such situations, act inhibited, with an eye to orders and commands, do not take initiatives, which give the information space to the opposition, specially trained to conduct propaganda through electronic media and social networks. The key concept in this propaganda unexpectedly becomes “the right to revolt”, and this slogan is ingeniously derived from the Cossack past and the “right to rokosh”, which in fact belonged only to the gentry and destroyed Rzeczpospolita, but most of the details do not care.

The government remembers the regions when a third of them are already lost. Sessions of regional councils are urgently organized in the eastern regions and Podolia. They are starting to bring deputies to the Parliament to Kiev, which is quite difficult - many of them went abroad for holidays and are no longer eager to return. There is a lack of decisiveness. President Yanukovych’s environment has never been so strong in character, but in the past it only helped them, since the political line of the government itself has never been direct. These people are used to constantly maneuver: between the oligarchic groups, between the centers of influence, between Russia and the EU, in the end. Making a hard and harsh decision, whatever it may be, is beyond their power.

In Kharkov, Lugansk, Donetsk, Melitopol and Sumy, special forces take government buildings under protection. Local regional councils receive appeals in support of the president and the government. The spontaneous formation of detachments of warriors and loyal Cossacks begins.

The Parliament of Crimea unexpectedly and loudly adopts a decree on the independence of the Republic of Crimea. This is motivated by the de facto collapse of the country and the inability of the central government to ensure the safety of the population. The Crimean Tatar Mejlis supported the opposition a few days ago, and now it is hastily conducting mobilization. It turns out that the Tatar youth organization has long been very well armed. Nevertheless, the conflict in Crimea has not yet erupted on its own, since the opposing parties are equally afraid of the Russian marines. Command of the Russian Black Sea fleet He announces the alarm, although under bilateral agreements he has no right to do this without notifying the Ukrainian side in 48 hours.

Belarus closes the border, Poland - on the contrary, opens. Border guards disintegrated on the eyes. The control over Galicia and Volyn finally leaves the central government, and a few loyal military units in Western Ukraine are blocked by already armed militants. This is done simply and uncomplicated. At the gates of the military unit, a picket is installed, but on the contrary, a machine gun is demonstratively installed, since the nationalists already have no problems with weapons at this moment in time. Those military units, where the commanders left inadvertently came from the western regions, begin to cross over to the rebels, the rest are offered to disband or to hand over their weapons "for safekeeping".

The situation is further aggravated by rumors about columns of Russian tanks moving from Kursk to the Ukrainian border.

The Russian embassy remains silent.

The US Department of State begins consultations with Germany on “resolving the situation,” but at the same time tightens sanctions against Yanukovych and his circle. This tactic usual for Washington only pushes the central power into a corner. Meanwhile, some European politicians continue to arrive in Kiev for the moral support of the opposition, which only increases tensions.

Despite the fact that events in the regions are developing rapidly, the center of opposition is still located in the center of Kiev. The mood of the opposition is increasingly radicalized, they are gradually expanding the scope of control over the city blocks at the expense of the territories in which the Berkut cordons are set up - on Podol and, on the contrary, along the lanes adjacent to Khreshchatyk. In areas under the control of nationalists, pogroms and looting will begin. The government of Israel will protest and offer the Jews an urgent evacuation. Poland will have to do the same, albeit with a delay. Representatives of all religious denominations of Ukraine will make an appeal to end the violence, but somehow unconvincing, since much of the parish priests of the Greek Catholic persuasion will support the actions of nationalists, and the Catholic parishes of Galicia and Transcarpathia will ask for support from Poland and Hungary.
The most dangerous is the night time of the day, since electricity interruptions begin. The central government does not have enough internal forces to ensure the constant protection of strategic energy supply facilities. There is a threat of the collapse of the municipal system of the city, the movement of the metro along the red line is limited. The temperature drops to –25, the militants re-equip part of the captured buildings under the heating points and increase the rotation on the barricades. The soldiers have no such possibility. The state of emergency has not yet been introduced, since it is not possible to achieve a quorum in the Verkhovna Rada.

Technology provocative sniper shooting worked a decade ago. The most important thing is to podgadat shots under the greatest noise effect, which is created by both opposing sides. The militants are “Molotov cocktails” and explosives, the soldiers are stun grenades. In such a hubbub to hear the shot itself, and even more so to determine where it was made from, is impossible. According to the events in Romania, the psychological effect of this kind of shooting is also known: those who have weapons start to shoot up randomly, instinctively realizing that snipers are on the roof. The rest turn into a completely uncontrollable crowd.

And by this moment it does not matter who and at what point the first of the nationalist groups decides to use this tactic. Shots will be distributed from the roofs somewhere around three or four in the morning, knocking out five or six people from the crowd for a salvo. Chaos will begin immediately. The Berkut was cold, tired, did not receive reinforcements, they were not given live ammunition. They do not withstand the pressure of the armed crowd of militants, rested, warmed and inspired by slogans, exceeding ten to fifteen times. By morning, government buildings in Kiev will be captured and destroyed, mobile militant groups will take a bus station, a railway station and block entrances to the city from Brovary and Belaya Tserkov. Personnel with the "victims of government terror" will begin to turn over the air without a break. Hospitals and morgues also cordoned off by nationalist representatives. The connection between the city center and the province in the broad sense of the word will be lost. The armed rebellion itself will take no more than six hours, with the full connivance of the demoralized Kiev garrison. The tank brigade in Chernigov will remain in the barracks.

The location of President Yanukovych will be impossible to establish. By the middle of the day, he will try to go on the air through loyal television studios in Donetsk and Kharkov and announce martial law in connection with the attempted coup d'etat, ignoring the Verkhovna Rada. Parts of the garrisons of the eastern regions will start moving towards Kiev and Dnepropetrovsk.

Vladimir Putin and Barack Obama will be contacted by direct wire. Angela Merkel, who will have to make difficult choices, will also be connected to the consultations, since it will be necessary to simultaneously support the “aspiration of the Ukrainian people to common European values” and dissociate themselves from frankly fascist slogans that sound in western regions. Gradually, a certain Putin's plan, Merkel, will begin to crystallize, in fulfillment of which landing airplanes will rise from the airfields of Ryazan, Ivanovo and Cherekhi. There will be no way back. Yes, it was not from the very beginning.
The participation of Russian troops in the liberation of the central part of Kiev from militants may not be necessary. Having received real support, the central government will be able to mobilize combat-ready units from the eastern regions within two days. The battles on Podol will be quite bloody, but short-term, since the preponderance will be on the side of the government troops, and the morale spirit of the militants will drop to the freezing point, after Angela Merkel, as the official representative of Europe “in the Ukrainian crisis,” supports “restoring order” as opposed to “ fascist chaos. " Most of the militants will infiltrate from Kiev to the region and further to the regions, where they will be transferred to an illegal situation. These violent will be a little bit, but for some time they will be able to portray something like a guerrilla war, attacking military units and arranging attacks on government officials.

Nobody will seize the western regions. There will be introduced self-government under the control of the mixed forces of the OSCE and NATO. Ban Ki-moon will announce the conduct of a peacekeeping operation in Galicia and Volhynia under the general auspices of the UN already in hindsight. German and Polish troops will occupy strategic positions like the one in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Hungary will announce control over the Uzhgorod-Mukachevo-Berehove district "for the safety of fellow tribesmen." Romania will try to do the same in Bukovina, but will meet with an unequivocal rebuff from the central government in Kiev. Moscow will recognize the independence of Transnistria and announce the creation of a new military base on the territory of this partially recognized state. Crimea will begin negotiations on confederative status, and Russia and Ukraine will revise the agreement on the status of the Black Sea Fleet and the city of Sevastopol itself.

And when the dead are buried, a completely different life will begin in Eastern Europe.
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  1. SIBUR-DV
    +2
    25 January 2014 22: 07
    On RT there is information that Yanukovych offered to head the government to Yatsenyuk
  2. +2
    25 January 2014 22: 08
    Maidans began in 2004, and this is already a clinic. This Maidan is not the last. The people of Ukraine are too naive, a smart gentleman will come, and everything will be in chocolate. The author of the article is right, a split is inevitable. The western regions of Ukraine are clearly gravitating towards Poland, or they will disintegrate for individual entities. Moreover, now there
    The People's Rada is in charge and there are their own paramilitary organizations of the Bendery type.
  3. 0
    25 January 2014 22: 10
    So what’s bad for Russia in the collapse of Ukraine?
    1. uhjpysq1
      -2
      25 January 2014 22: 31
      For Russia, the division of Ukraine is even very good)
    2. +4
      25 January 2014 23: 03
      Quote: yashka12007
      So what’s bad for Russia in the collapse of Ukraine?

      What is bad for our relatives in Ukraine is bad for us...
      1. +7
        25 January 2014 23: 07
        The ragulians on the Maidan are greedy and don’t want to do anything for customers, they’re doing well as it is. They don’t go to the Rada, they don’t go to the AP. They eat and shit

        With the hands of the authorities, it is important to disperse them from the Maidan, and then where will all this zombified people go?
        That's right, to Western Ukraine!

        And there they will sit tightly and become a magnet for new ragulians or just citizens. Clearing the Maidan plays into the hands of those who are preparing to split Ukraine!

        And I will upset a lot of Russian patriots now. Those who think that secession will solve everything are sorely mistaken!

        According to the architects of current events, the newly created Ragul state should include not only Western Ukraine itself along the borders of 1914.

        Alas, this is not true. Events are planned in such a way that they want to include the entire western half of Ukraine in the new state - including Kyiv and even (Putnik will not agree with me, but I will say) - it seems that they want to include Odessa there (with autonomy rights)!

        Patriots of Russia, when you say that the Galicians need to be separated, think about this! There are a lot of normal people in Lvov and Uzhgorod, including Russian-speaking people. Exactly 70 percent of the city is Russian-speaking. And the West does not need Galicia alone. The West wants to tear off half of Ukraine + Kyiv and Odessa! Mechanisms for this have already been created and launched!
        ermalex76
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  4. SIBUR-DV
    +2
    25 January 2014 22: 37
    Quote: dr.star75
    Too pessimistic scenario. Let's just imagine like this. In response to an actual attack on state authorities in the western regions of the country, attacks by militants in the center of Kiev, Yanukovych introduces something like a CTO, to which the militants begin an armed rebellion (firing from automatic weapons, grenades, etc.) In response Ya asks the fraternal republics to come to the rescue. And then (white, ugh) BB starts and wins. In favor of this scenario: 1. The entire last year was an exercise, the enemy was international terrorists, there was even one episode with a landing of marines.2. Our only TAVRK with support in the Mediterranean, near the straits, means there will be no reinforcements for the swindlers. Where can help come from? Turkey is in the revolution right up to the Tahrirs, EGOrdana has no time for them. The Old Man will cover them from the north, especially since our planes are being transferred there to a new airfield. We initially do not consider proud but small Moldovans. Georgia is already revising its military doctrine to a defensive one. Crimean Tatars? And the Crimean parliament writes a letter to ours and asks to be accepted into the Russian Federation (joke).3. The rapid reaction forces are conducting an operation to force militants to peace in western Ukraine and are then creating several bases there. How's the script? Is it suitable for an action movie? In general, it seems to me that everything will be resolved soon. Have you seen VV? cheerful, satisfied, meeting with the Olympians, it means everything is going according to plan, HIS plan! By the way, about the rumors, Yanukovych did not read the text of the agreement. This is only possible in one case, he did not intend to sign it, i.e. trolled the EU from the very beginning.



    Rather, the Furious One will not send troops into Ukraine, but will give his blessing, the generals are not running away from Janek, which means the army is under control, the peaceful rally is no longer a rally and Fedorych will handle it himself, first the skating rink will flood at -20 on the Maidan, so that it would be cleaner, and extinguish the tires, and then they’ll catch the Nazis, they won’t find any particularly violent ones. Geyropa and the USA will boo, but with decisive actions by the legally elected president under the roof of Sauron they will not interfere
  5. +3
    25 January 2014 22: 39
    I think there will be no disintegration of Ukraine. Stalingrad will soon enter the counteroffensive phase. All Bandera supporters will be cleared out, but now they are allowed to prove themselves, show their faces. As a signal for this, the departure of American ships from the World Cup waters. If they managed to recapture Syria, then the VV will definitely not surrender the neighboring territory, not all of it. As they say, a kind word with a division works better than just a kind word.
  6. 0
    25 January 2014 22: 47
    Speaking of negotiations, these are negotiations for the sake of negotiations. Ya is stalling for time, like Iran for example. Offers posts. Do you seriously think that they will agree to take them? Me. knows that they don’t need it. That’s why they have a fork: if they don’t agree, they’re bums; if they agree, end the Maidan. In the end, Ya will say: you generally decide what you want, I don’t want this, I won’t do this, well then move away and don’t interfere.
  7. 0
    25 January 2014 23: 02
    Is this always the case with their sound???
    http://lb.ua/news/2013/12/08/243049_onlayntranslyatsiya_maydana.html
  8. Mikola
    -5
    25 January 2014 23: 03
    The fantasies on this site about Ukraine give the impression that Russia is an information reserve.
    Here's the latest news -
    Yanukovych offered Yatsenyuk the post of prime minister,
    Yanukovych proposed an amnesty law in exchange for the liberation of buildings,
    Yanukovych agreed to change the laws of January 16,
    The regions disowned the introduction of a state of emergency. According to the draft agreements, the “heroic” Berkut will be dissolved. That is, the Yanukovych regime is looking for ways of PEACEFUL retreat, you can’t trample against the people.
    1. +4
      25 January 2014 23: 10
      Well, that's what I wrote...
      It would be easier for him to do this, along the Dnieper:
      East - Russia,
      West - Belarus...
      And along the way, we will catch the Banderlogs, so comrades Ukrainians, start organizing local self-defense units...
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    3. -3
      25 January 2014 23: 11
      An emergency, the deployment of troops, the use of force - these actions can only aggravate the situation and will lead to large-scale human casualties, which will definitely send Yanukovych and his party into the political dustbin. I believe that these are the primary results. After all the proposals are accepted, the authorities and the opposition should gradually move towards early elections.
    4. 0
      25 January 2014 23: 12
      Quote: Mikola
      According to the draft agreements, the “heroic” Berkut will be disbanded


      Texts of projects or links to the studio please.
    5. DMB-78
      +2
      25 January 2014 23: 18
      yes we heard it. only now they will proudly refuse and give Yanukovych a free hand
    6. +4
      25 January 2014 23: 51
      Quote: Mikola
      The regions disowned the introduction of a state of emergency. According to the draft agreements, the “heroic” Berkut will be dissolved. That is, the Yanukovych regime is looking for ways of PEACEFUL retreat, you can’t trample against the people.


      Svidomo, how is it that people in the regions have already disowned this? In an hour, the locals gathered together?!
      Sick, and learn to speak for yourself, and not for the people of Ukraine. A few percent of the population of Western Ukraine is not the whole people.
  9. stranik72
    0
    25 January 2014 23: 08
    "During negotiations on Saturday, President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych offered the post of Prime Minister to the leader of the Batkivshchyna faction, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, and the post of Deputy Prime Minister to the leader of the UDAR faction, Vitaliy Klitschko.."
    There were, there were people in history who sought to elevate and strengthen their power, their people, their faith, their way of life, and they acted harshly (and sometimes cruelly), breaking resistance, both external and internal, and sacrificing something in the name of something. A malignant tumor requires removal - another thing is that this operation can be done under anesthesia, or you can cut it alive, tying the patient to a table and not paying attention to his cries and not thinking that in the end the patient may not be healed, but die from painful shock. It all depends on the doctor, and doctors are different... So Yanukovych, by virtue of his capabilities, did this for the sake of his own understanding of the situation, God and the Ukrainian people will be his judge. For Russia, it is now very important how the GDP will act in this situation, not with Ukraine, no, with Russia, our enemy is still winning one victory after another (don’t be fooled by Syria) and his main goal is to see Russia devastated and burned to the ground.
    1. +2
      25 January 2014 23: 11
      Yanuk disappeared along the way... tomorrow I’ll go transport my people...
      Damn...February 1917 is on vacation...
      1. +1
        25 January 2014 23: 33
        http://lb.ua/news/2013/12/08/243049_onlayntranslyatsiya_maydana.html
        Bitches only work at night...
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      3. 0
        26 January 2014 00: 27
        What kind of alarmism is this? CHEF is everything gone? The gibs are removed, the client is leaving! Calmly, let's go down slowly and take the whole herd!
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  10. DMB-78
    +3
    25 January 2014 23: 13
    Anecdote: “Once upon a time, the ambassadors of the USA, France, Spain, Germany, Denmark; US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland; American senators Chris Murphy and John McCain; German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle; the High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and security policy - Catherine Ashton; former President of Georgia - Mikheil Saakashvili; Dutch Foreign Minister - Frans Timmermans; European Parliamentarian - Jacek Protasevich; Foreign Minister of Lithuania - Linas Linkevičius; Speaker of the Seimas of Lithuania - Loreta Grauzinienė; former Prime Minister of Poland - Jaroslaw Kaczynski; Czech Senator Jaromir Stetina and......accused Russia of interfering in the internal affairs of Ukraine!"
  11. -3
    25 January 2014 23: 26
    And someone (I won’t name names, who needs to read it) was going to fight the Nazi evil spirits under the leadership of the lousy Janek.
    1. DMB-78
      +3
      25 January 2014 23: 32
      What difference does it make under whose leadership to beat the fascists? It’s possible without guidance, where I saw it, I destroyed it there.
      1. 0
        25 January 2014 23: 39
        Big, lousy only to beat the fascists, well, well - he’ll sell it and won’t blink an eye.
    2. +2
      25 January 2014 23: 51
      For example, I don’t respect Janek, but I’ll take my relatives out of Kyiv, and I won’t care, if I have to cut, I’ll cut, if I have to shoot, I’ll shoot, and to kill...
      You have a respected Vladimir 70 LIBYA is on your doorstep... with all the delights you can see on ANNA news in Syria, only the Syrian army will be more yours, just like your territory.
      1. +2
        26 January 2014 00: 01
        YOU, dear Vladimir, 70 LIBYA on your doorstep... with all the delights that you can see on ANNA news in Syria, only the Syrian army will be more yours, as will your territory
        So I'm talking about the same thing. At least in Syria there is Assad, but here we have Lousy.
        1. 0
          26 January 2014 00: 37
          Don't piss, guys. Assad is strong because he has Putin on the horizon, and you have Putin behind you (air defense with S-300, Iskanders, and just T-72 and Airborne Forces) If you want to fight the scum, fight, we will cover you!
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  12. +4
    25 January 2014 23: 29
    In the Transcarpathian city of Uzhgorod, a protest is taking place against Galician extremists who intend to seize the regional administration and other administrative buildings.

    According to our correspondent, among the protesters there are calls to cut off gas supplies to Europe if it continues to support radical extremists.

    Let us remind you that the main gas pipelines that supply Europe with heat pass through Transcarpathia.

    Meanwhile, about 300 Transcarpathians are now on the Veretsky Pass and are blocking the entrance of Galician extremists to Transcarpathia.
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    1. DMB-78
      0
      25 January 2014 23: 35
      see above. it says clearly
    2. +3
      25 January 2014 23: 37
      Quote: Vladimir 70
      Where are the “comrades” who were going to fight the brown plague under the leadership of lousy Janek?

      We will come, but to protect relatives... and transport them to the SOUTH...
      But if they touch you, then call me...
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  14. 0
    25 January 2014 23: 42
    Quote: Mikola
    According to the draft agreements, the “heroic” Berkut will be disbanded.

    He would rather join the military junta or go completely to Sevastol than dissolve himself...
  15. +2
    25 January 2014 23: 42
    There is already information that even if the opps accept Yanyk’s proposals, they still will not leave the Maidan. In fact, this is a brilliant move by Yanyk and his supporters, now the population will begin to more support the government, which has made concessions to the “people”, and the “people of the Maidan” have shown their real face to everyone who believed in their good intentions.
    1. SIBUR-DV
      0
      26 January 2014 00: 44
      Well, now Yanyk miraculously escaped the rope, he must think with his head that there is only one way to the TS, he will squeeze the oligarchs, maybe he will persecute some people, he will develop Agriculture, get cheap farms, people’s well-being will improve, you see, he will also get a second term
  16. SIBUR-DV
    +2
    25 January 2014 23: 45
    THERE WAS NO WORTHY PRESIDENT IN UKRAINE - it is logical that Tyagnibok will now be appointed US Fuhrer for Ukraine.
    Or Arsenyuk and, at worst, Klitschko. )))
    1. 0
      25 January 2014 23: 57
      Quote: SIBUR-DV
      THERE WAS NO WORTHY PRESIDENT IN UKRAINE - it is logical that Tyagnibok will now be appointed US Fuhrer for Ukraine.
      Or Arsenyuk and, at worst, Klitschko. )))

      there were condoms... Vetrenko for president...
    2. +4
      25 January 2014 23: 57
      Quote: SIBUR-DV
      THERE WAS NO WORTHY PRESIDENT IN UKRAINE - it is logical that Tyagnibok will now be appointed US Fuhrer for Ukraine.
      Or Arsenyuk and, at worst, Klitschko. )))

      there were condoms... Vitrenko Natalya Mikhailovna for President of Ukraine...

      Looks vaguely like Merkel...
  17. DMB-78
    +2
    25 January 2014 23: 52
    but they didn’t offer anything to Tyagnibok laughing now they will start fighting among themselves laughing
    1. SIBUR-DV
      0
      26 January 2014 01: 11
      Hey hey, It was already like that, when under Yushchenko everyone had a fight after a couple of months... Right now, the three-headed Serpent Gorynych is choking on poison, Yatsenyuk is ALREADY PREMIER, and the candidate for preziki, the post of viiiiice prime minister for humanitarian affairs (sweeping the Maidan) AHAHAH... I can imagine , what's going to happen now, I'm stocking up on popcorn
  18. +3
    26 January 2014 00: 00
    After the Minister of Internal Affairs stated that opposition leaders are not able to control radical forces, the President offered Yatsenyuk, who only yesterday was ready to receive a bullet in the forehead from the regime, the post of prime minister, and the post of deputy prime minister for humanitarian issues to Vitali Klitschko.

    Justice Minister Lukash said: “The President of Ukraine is convinced that working together with the opposition will help the state unite and carry out the necessary reforms for the state and society.”

    If Yatsenyuk gives his consent, then Verkhovna Rada will consider the issue of resignation of the Government.

    And on the Maidan, the stormtroopers are logically asking the question: “People died on the Maidan so that Yatsenyuk could become prime minister?”
    1. 0
      26 January 2014 00: 14
      Quote: densh
      And on the Maidan, the stormtroopers are logically asking the question: “People died on the Maidan so that Yatsenyuk could become prime minister?”

      I sense that, ala Greece in 1967-1974, there will be a dictatorship of colonels, if the generals and officials could not...
    2. 0
      26 January 2014 00: 14
      Quote: densh
      And on the Maidan, the stormtroopers are logically asking the question: “People died on the Maidan so that Yatsenyuk could become prime minister?”

      I sense that, ala Greece in 1967-1974, there will be a dictatorship of colonels, if the generals and officials could not...
    3. SIBUR-DV
      +1
      26 January 2014 00: 35
      People themselves came out without knowing what they wanted, first European integration, then a change of government and the resignation of Azarov, then the Nazis picked them up and already the first two slogans went out....--- SEPARATION!!!! So that. The cunning Thief in Law Vitek again threw everyone away, most likely not without a Kremlin tattoo. The oppo wanted blood, but they were offered to rule the country, and at the same time blame Yatsenyuk for all the troubles in the economy.
  19. -1
    26 January 2014 00: 19
    Yanukovych is a political corpse (as a traitor to his voters), and if the Party of Regions does not want to go after him, it should begin to impeach Yanukov. The Russian Federation needs to abandon further purchases of Ukrainian Eurobonds. I think this is how it should be.
  20. SIBUR-DV
    +1
    26 January 2014 00: 25
    Yanukovych has fooled everyone once again... a familiar multi-mover from the Kremlin. Wow Yanyk, well done
    1. -1
      26 January 2014 00: 41
      To “dissolve” you need: intelligence, education, experience, opportunities, allies. Better all at once. I'm afraid I'm missing a lot, which means someone else is in charge.
  21. 0
    26 January 2014 00: 55
    DMB-78 “but they didn’t offer anything to Tyagnibok laughing, now they’ll start fighting among themselves”
    Your words, yes to God in ears.
  22. +2
    26 January 2014 00: 58
    Get up, the country is huge,
    Get up on a mortal battle
    With the fascist force of the dark,
    With a damned horde!

    Let the rage be noble
    Boils like a wave!
    There is a people's war,
    Holy war.

    Like two different poles,
    In everything we are hostile.
    We fight for light and peace
    They are for the kingdom of darkness.

    We fight back stranglers
    All fiery ideas
    To rapists, robbers;
    To the tormentors of the people!

    Black wings don’t dare
    Fly over the motherland
    Its fields are spacious
    Do not dare to trample the enemy!

    Rotting fascist evil spirits
    Put the bullet in the forehead,
    Shore off humanity
    Shall we break a strong coffin!

    Let's go smash with all my might
    with all my heart, with all my soul
    For our dear land,
    For our Union is big!

    The country is huge,
    Rises to the mortal battle
    With the fascist force of the dark,
    With the cursed horde.

    Here I watched an online broadcast of the Maidan and they sang their Bandera anthem there. And in order to eliminate this negativity after listening to it, I decided to listen to the USSR anthem of 1943. and Get up, huge country! Ukrainians, hold on, you need to defend your homeland! Our common Motherland!

    Union of the indestructible republics free
    Great Russia forever.
    Long live the people's will
    A single, mighty Soviet Union!

    Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
    Friendship of peoples is a reliable stronghold!
    The Soviet banner, the banner of the people
    Let it lead from victory to victory!

    Through the storms, the sun of freedom shone,
    And Lenin gave us a great path:
    We were raised by Stalin - on fidelity to the people,
    We were inspired by work and deeds!

    Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
    Happiness of nations is a reliable stronghold!
    The Soviet banner, the banner of the people
    Let it lead from victory to victory!

    We raised our army in battles.
    Invaders we will slay the vile ones from the road!
    We in battles solve the fate of generations,
    We will lead our Fatherland to glory!

    Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
    Glory of the peoples reliable stronghold!
    The Soviet banner, the banner of the people
    Let it lead from victory to victory!
  23. +1
    26 January 2014 01: 01
    Quote: TiGRoO
    Get up, the country is huge,
    Get up on a mortal battle
    With the fascist force of the dark,
    With a damned horde!

    Let the rage be noble
    Boils like a wave!
    There is a people's war,
    Holy war.

    Like two different poles,
    In everything we are hostile.
    We fight for light and peace
    They are for the kingdom of darkness.

    We fight back stranglers
    All fiery ideas
    To rapists, robbers;
    To the tormentors of the people!

    Black wings don’t dare
    Fly over the motherland
    Its fields are spacious
    Do not dare to trample the enemy!

    Rotting fascist evil spirits
    Put the bullet in the forehead,
    Shore off humanity
    Shall we break a strong coffin!

    Let's go smash with all my might
    with all my heart, with all my soul
    For our dear land,
    For our Union is big!

    The country is huge,
    Rises to the mortal battle
    With the fascist force of the dark,
    With the cursed horde.

    Here I watched an online broadcast of the Maidan and they sang their Bandera anthem there. And in order to eliminate this negativity after listening to it, I decided to listen to the USSR anthem of 1943. and Get up, huge country! Ukrainians, hold on, you need to defend your homeland! Our common Motherland!

    Union of the indestructible republics free
    Great Russia forever.
    Long live the people's will
    A single, mighty Soviet Union!

    Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
    Friendship of peoples is a reliable stronghold!
    The Soviet banner, the banner of the people
    Let it lead from victory to victory!

    Through the storms, the sun of freedom shone,
    And Lenin gave us a great path:
    We were raised by Stalin - on fidelity to the people,
    We were inspired by work and deeds!

    Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
    Happiness of nations is a reliable stronghold!
    The Soviet banner, the banner of the people
    Let it lead from victory to victory!

    We raised our army in battles.
    Invaders we will slay the vile ones from the road!
    We in battles solve the fate of generations,
    We will lead our Fatherland to glory!

    Be glorious, our free Fatherland,
    Glory of the peoples reliable stronghold!
    The Soviet banner, the banner of the people
    Let it lead from victory to victory!


    +++++++++++++++++++++++++!
  24. DMB-78
    0
    26 January 2014 01: 01
    Your words yes to god in ears
    Yes, they already had squabbles among themselves before this
  25. +5
    26 January 2014 01: 02
    “Are we afraid of responsibility? We are not afraid of responsibility. We are ready to lead the country into the European Union,” Yatsenyuk said
  26. SIBUR-DV
    +1
    26 January 2014 01: 05
    Quote: dr.star75
    To “dissolve” you need: intelligence, education, experience, opportunities, allies. Better all at once. I'm afraid I'm missing a lot, which means someone else is in charge.


    Well, he learned to cheat when he was young (we know where) Well, who is behind him, probably the Eastern guardian angel Gee Gee... Probably Klitschko, who wants to be president, has a lot of intelligence, let Boxing schools in kindergartens develop children for sports teaches you, everything is better than poisoning yourself with rubber chemicals on the Maidan.
  27. Docklishin
    0
    26 January 2014 01: 05
    Hmmm. Nothing to add. Yanyk solves the situation. But everything could have been decided quite simply - there is a LAW and it is violated. Just give the go-ahead. and don't care about anyone. the law is above all. Yanyk, whatever one may say, is a legally elected president, and the Rada did not give the go-ahead for the dissolution of the government. And no one expressed a quota of no confidence. And the rest is all from the evil one. There is no need to look for the brain in the ass. For me, it’s high time for Yanyk to decide who he is. And say I am with RUSSIA. The GDP will not go down - that's 100%. trident, right sector, etc. equate to terrorist organizations. Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs will provide legal support, if they cannot do it themselves. And no one even blathers. Disperse all this scourge. If there is a threat to the life of law enforcement agencies, use military weapons. And since now it’s called political prostitution. And unfortunately, Ukraine as a single country may soon no longer exist...
  28. Docklishin
    +1
    26 January 2014 01: 08
    and one more thing - it is IMPOSSIBLE to dump the security forces like that. and mock them in such a sophisticated form too. Otherwise, the day may come when the comrades give up and go home. And ALL the p..ts sailed.
  29. SIBUR-DV
    +2
    26 January 2014 01: 21
    Quote: DocKlishin
    Hmmm. Nothing to add. Yanyk solves the situation. But everything could have been decided quite simply - there is a LAW and it is violated. Just give the go-ahead. and don't care about anyone. the law is above all. Yanyk, whatever one may say, is a legally elected president, and the Rada did not give the go-ahead for the dissolution of the government. And no one expressed a quota of no confidence. And the rest is all from the evil one. There is no need to look for the brain in the ass. For me, it’s high time for Yanyk to decide who he is. And say I am with RUSSIA. The GDP will not go down - that's 100%. trident, right sector, etc. equate to terrorist organizations. Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs will provide legal support, if they cannot do it themselves. And no one even blathers. Disperse all this scourge. If there is a threat to the life of law enforcement agencies, use military weapons. And since now it’s called political prostitution. And unfortunately, Ukraine as a single country may soon no longer exist...


    I would immediately become unshakable, Yanyk has no support in the media, he would be pecked by vultures in an instant, plus Sanctions, the country in isolation, plus the Olympics, and in general all this would be possible, but it is not yet appropriate, I think it will be integrated into the CU, it will be real power, Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, RUSSIA, there it is already possible to roll over all the fascists with tanks
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  33. SIBUR-DV
    +1
    26 January 2014 01: 32
    Well, in the end.
    Yanukovych is a genius! It doesn't matter who agrees to what. Check out the sacredness and beauty of the moment... After two and a half months of stubborn struggle of the “great” Ukrainians, lost eyes, torn asses pulled over the eyes from Berkut gas and burning tires, a great protest brought to power... a Jew. “Ancient” ukrov have never been lowered like this before. Truly Yanukovych deserves to be president.
  34. wax
    +1
    26 January 2014 02: 01
    Yes, the States and the EU managed to relegate the Olympics to the back of the news, plus they presented the gift effectively. But still, let's see who will smile last. The time for decisive action is coming ahead both in Russia and throughout the CIS. Otherwise, the Russian Federation will be overwhelmed by floods along the entire perimeter of its borders.
  35. SIBUR-DV
    +1
    26 January 2014 02: 13
    OPPAs refused the offer... Now only God will save Nenka
  36. +1
    26 January 2014 02: 27
    23.50 Clashes began near the Ukrainian House, they began to throw cocktails at the Ukrainian House. Well, here we go. The radicals seem upset by today's agreements... It's HEAT!.. In general, there will be a purge. But in better conditions. Ukrainian House is on fire! A thousand radicals attack!


    The Ukrainian House is on fire, there are a lot of cocktails. There are policemen inside the House, ordinary people there, and two rare collections of some kind of literature are kept there... This is a provocation. The “third force” became very angry with the campaign and threw the Nazis forward!
    ermalex76
  37. +1
    26 January 2014 02: 37
    Such a normal scenario! Lenin’s GERLO plan was once considered a utopia. And, in fact, why was “European integration” promoted with one-sided obligations? And somehow, unexpectedly quickly, trained cores of resistance were organized, just sharpened for a violent change of power. There was no money for integration, but for the Maidans - please. And gang management is at the proper level. Didn’t the West really understand that even an integrated Ukraine would rise sooner rather than later? Well, it is not ethnically homogeneous, and besides, it was artificially created. VVP spoke about this even in his “second term”. This is where it all comes together. Galicia initially wanted a split. Moreover, with the support of the West, they will also take over other neighboring regions. Russia is rapidly restoring its sovereignty. Who would like it? That is why it is important for us to declare non-interference. An international boycott of the Olympics (which will inevitably be followed by various economic sanctions) could throw Russia far back and we will lose what we have gained with such difficulty. This is also why calls for the reunification of the Russian people are being “suppressed”. Yes, there are not enough resources yet. It is not for nothing that Brzezik let it slip that Russia does not yet have the funds for this.
    1. SIBUR-DV
      0
      26 January 2014 03: 41
      Is there no way to postpone this Olympics???? She's like a bone in my throat right now. I can’t even imagine how a Ukrainian athlete will perform, thinking what’s going on at home, he came and there’s no such country anymore...
  38. SIBUR-DV
    0
    26 January 2014 03: 36
    Everything seems to be going on, it’s either clearing into the asphalt or SEPARATION, the problem can no longer be solved peacefully, the Nazis felt the power and the bloodshed, and BERKUT is already running out, it won’t last long. I’m watching a live broadcast of hyenas breaking into a Ukrainian house...my heart bleeds, I hope there will be tanks and explosives in Kyiv by morning
  39. 0
    26 January 2014 04: 14
    Quote: SIBUR-DV
    Well, in the end.
    Yanukovych is a genius! It doesn't matter who agrees to what. Check out the sacredness and beauty of the moment... After two and a half months of stubborn struggle of the “great” Ukrainians, lost eyes, torn asses pulled over the eyes from Berkut gas and burning tires, a great protest brought to power... a Jew. “Ancient” ukrov have never been lowered like this before. Truly Yanukovych deserves to be president.


    The move is really cunning, although there is a risk, but I don’t think that Yanukovych came up with it himself; Perhaps I received advice from GDP (too subtly).
  40. +1
    26 January 2014 04: 21
    I apologize at 00.19 I was wrong, I lost my temper, emotions, damn it.
    1. SIBUR-DV
      0
      26 January 2014 04: 30
      It’s too late... The oppas refused such a gift. Pray, Ukrainians, in Davos your Firtashs and Akhmetovs and Poroshenkos are already dismantling Square in pieces
      1. 0
        26 January 2014 11: 44
        They are not Russian, they are gay.
  41. SIBUR-DV
    +1
    26 January 2014 04: 38
    Opposition leader Petro Poroshenko published a post on his social network page, which he dedicated to highlighting political sentiments outside of Ukraine. According to him, two days of the World Economic Forum in Davos were devoted to agreeing and discussing an action plan to overcome the political crisis in Ukraine. Particular indignation and condemnation of the Forum participants was caused by a video in which Berkut employees mock a citizen of Ukraine.

    Petro Poroshenko also said that now more than 70 countries are in solidarity with Ukrainians who are fighting for democracy. At the same time, the leaders of the countries decided to cancel upcoming meetings with representatives of the Ukrainian authorities, who are responsible for the blood and deaths of Ukrainians in Kyiv. According to Poroshenko, in fact, representatives of the Ukrainian government are labeled persona non grata. From today, all bank transfers that may be associated with political figures of the current government will be carefully checked, and the United States and Europe will keep them under double control.

    full text here
    http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/news/view/87209/
    1. 0
      26 January 2014 11: 51
      Arrest the bastard and force him to write down “everything acquired through back-breaking labor” into the budget.
  42. +1
    26 January 2014 05: 29
    A government that cannot, does not want and does not know how to defend itself will collapse in any case. The question is different - what will happen after its fall? The events in my country are a total disgrace, Yanyk cannot cope with this unfinished “opposition”... And now the fire has already flared up, and will it be possible to put it out? And the very course of events is a copy of the beginning of the “Arab Spring”, the events in Libya, Egypt, and the beginning of the Syrian war. “Uncle Sam” will never calm down... (When will he be calmed down forever after all). In this situation, open support from Russia is needed more than ever, as well as the firmness of the power structures of Ukraine, instead of scraping before these paid clowns.
  43. kurtz755
    +3
    26 January 2014 05: 38
    Russian-speaking people and sympathizers have found a place to lament - take to the streets, neutralize the Westerners! Don’t be inert!
  44. +2
    26 January 2014 05: 46
    Various types of dissatisfaction with the government of certain groups of the population existed before and still exist today in all countries. However, those foreign discontents do not in any way resemble the current events in Ukraine, when a pitiful handful of people openly committing crimes prohibited under threat of punishment by the Criminal Code of Ukraine keeps the entire people of Ukraine in suspense.
    It is clear that the President of Ukraine and the Rada are proteges of oligarchic groups competing with each other, robbing Ukraine, and these oligarchs are at odds with each other. These showdowns are carried out by persons appointed by oligarchs (including foreign ones) as “politicians”. But in other countries (for example, the USA), politicians are exactly the same proteges of the oligarchs and compete with each other in the same way. Why has there never been such insanity there - why in the USA crimes have never gone unpunished by the state - why, for example, government buildings have never been seized in order to force the entire people of the USA to comply with the demands of the criminals who seized the buildings - to eliminate the government elected by all the people USA?
    Because politicians are like monkeys changing in the circus arena, and order in the circus (in the state) is maintained even by the owners of the circus, and by civil servants who are guided by the current laws of the state. Yes, civil servants also follow the instructions of politicians, but only if these instructions do not contradict the laws.
    And in this regard, I have a question - where have the civil servants of Ukraine gone, who are obliged to provide citizens with a safe life in accordance with current laws?
    After all, we see only the lowest of them - the rank and file of the Kiev Ministry of Internal Affairs and their officers, who are steadfastly standing in the fire of organized criminal groups insane from impunity. And where, say, did such a civil servant as the Prosecutor General of Ukraine go? Why is he not fulfilling his duties to ensure the safety of citizens of Ukraine - to identify the perpetrators of crimes and to charge them in court?
    Why doesn’t he do even the most minimal - why doesn’t he address the people of Ukraine and explain to citizens (taxpayers) what exactly is happening and what follows from what is happening?
    Yes, and the rest of the security forces, too, something is not visible or heard.
    1. 0
      26 January 2014 12: 14
      "a pitiful handful of people openly committing crimes prohibited under threat of punishment by the Criminal Code of Ukraine keeps the entire people of Ukraine in suspense"

      Unfortunately, it’s not that pathetic; rats multiplied in 20 years.

      "Where have the civil servants of Ukraine gone"

      For example, the Vinnitsa governor sent the militants to hell. Man, I respect you.

      “Why doesn’t he do even the bare minimum – why doesn’t he speak before the people of Ukraine and explain to citizens (taxpayers) what exactly is happening and what follows from what is happening?”

      He waits where the wind will blow, his shirt is closer to his body.

      “And the rest of the security forces, too, something is not visible or heard.”

      No, the Minister of Internal Affairs put forward another ultimatum to the maydauns.
  45. 0
    26 January 2014 06: 25
    Quote: ATATA
    “Today law enforcement agencies work within the framework of their powers. Within the framework of the laws that oblige them to maintain order,” the Head of State said.

    This is no longer the head, but the “head” of the penis.
  46. +1
    26 January 2014 07: 05
    Quote: Andryushamronyuk
    You say that there are 4 thousand golden eagle and 20 thousand police in Kyiv participating. In reality, on Grushevsky Street, on one side there are 3-5 thousand militants, and on Yanukovych’s side there are 8-10 thousand security forces. We've already tried to storm it several times, but it didn't work. Golden eagle shoots armor-piercing bullets, today a guy from Lvov died from one of these. You say in the West, armed militants are blocking the arsenal. Yes, I tried to organize something similar in Ivano-Frankivsk via the Internet to block a military unit with students and schoolchildren so that they would give us weapons. So no one agreed.

    Have you served in the army at all? What other bl. armor-piercing? Go and play Stalker better.
  47. +1
    26 January 2014 07: 27
    Bandyukovich was pretty embarrassed by offering Klitschko such an honorable position. The humanist should run for beer. Was Tyagnidbok deprived of his honor? Give him the post of Foreign Minister
  48. 0
    26 January 2014 09: 22
    Quote: demotivator
    And in this regard, I have a question - where have the civil servants of Ukraine gone, who are obliged to provide citizens with a safe life in accordance with current laws?
    After all, we see only the lowest of them - the rank and file of the Kyiv Ministry of Internal Affairs and the officers leading them, standing steadfastly under fire from organized criminal groups that have gone mad with impunity. And where, say, has such a civil servant as the Prosecutor General of Ukraine gone?

    Yes, it is clear that Yanukovych’s government turned out to be rotten.
    I would turn the question in the other direction - where is the supposedly “pro-Russian” South-East? Everyone can see how the Westerners defend theirs.
    The South-East has no slogans, no leaders, no desire to prove anything. It seems that everyone is happy with everything there.
    Yanukovych lost support among the people, which is why officials turned their backs on him.
    And stop stupidly repeating fairy tales that I’ve heard a hundred times on all forums: “Soon Donbass, Crimea, Odessa will rise and they will sweep away Bandera’s followers.” Nobody will rise there. And this was clear from the very beginning to everyone who really looked at things. And there will be no disintegration of Ukraine. Stop inventing fairy tales to reassure yourself, this is the lot of weaklings and fools.
    1. DMB-78
      +1
      26 January 2014 09: 45
      Quote: Sour
      The South-East has no slogans, no leaders, no desire to prove anything. It seems that everyone is happy with everything there.

      and they have no one to pay for such Maidans. they work, they do not sit on the neck of the state.
      1. 0
        26 January 2014 10: 00
        Quote: DMB-78
        and they have no one to pay for such Maidans. they work, they do not sit on the neck of the state.

        Oh, yes, how I forgot!
        Everything in this world is measured by money, including the desire to defend one’s views. Pay me and I will express my civic position. And I’ll tell you not even my own, but someone else’s, if you pay me well. And if the Donetsk oligarchs spared money for this, then I will sit at home and remain silent. Let everyone who wants me have me. Did I understand you correctly? Right. And what does Russia need such allies for?
        1. DMB-78
          0
          26 January 2014 10: 07
          Quote: Sour
          Quote: DMB-78
          and they have no one to pay for such Maidans. they work, they do not sit on the neck of the state.

          Oh, yes, how I forgot!
          Everything in this world is measured by money, including the desire to defend one’s views. Pay me and I will express my civic position. And I’ll tell you not even my own, but someone else’s, if you pay me well. And if the Donetsk oligarchs spared money for this, then I will sit at home and remain silent. Let everyone who wants me have me. Did I understand you correctly? Right. And what does Russia need such allies for?

          no need to distort. people work, they simply have no time to walk along the Maidans. No one will feed their families except them. How do you imagine an abandoned mine, or a stopped metallurgical plant, and all the workers on the Maidan?
          and about the protest, here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EogwRNbIUTM there is more.
          1. 0
            26 January 2014 10: 20
            And I didn’t wince at any point. People are working? Where were they on the weekend? Don't they all just come out of the mines? Where are their youth?
            And who does this “stronghold” represent? Who can he lead? specific question. To lead the way, and not just post videos on the internet.
            A fact is a fact - the east of Ukraine has merged. This is a fact. He didn't show himself at all. This means he is happy with everything.
            Sorry, I forgot about one detail. Still, there was some activity in the East - attempts by the “Maidanut” to seize the regional administrations in Sumy and Poltava. This - east of Ukraine. And another Orange rally in Donetsk. Even if there were few people there, there were hardly any more people in “Oplot”.
            1. DMB-78
              0
              26 January 2014 10: 28
              Quote: Sour
              And who does this “stronghold” represent? Who can he lead? specific question. To lead the way, and not just post videos on the internet.

              and leaders do not appear overnight. will be found there too. and what are the leaders of the opposition? they threw a fire extinguisher at one in the “face”, the second and third were openly and openly sent to hell. are these leaders? These are screens behind which all those who organized this are hiding. and they are sitting in the capital of Europe, Washington.
              1. +2
                26 January 2014 10: 34
                Quote: DMB-78
                and leaders don’t appear overnight

                This whole mess doesn’t last “one day.” It started in 2004, if that.
                Quote: DMB-78
                and what are the leaders of the opposition?

                Whatever they are, there are no such people in the East. And there aren’t even any at all. At least these are capable of getting their way. Is Klitschko a bad leader? Maybe. But he led the party, and it entered the Rada. I didn’t notice any “stronghold” in the Rada. They only know how to make videos. I can do this too, if necessary.
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  50. +1
    26 January 2014 10: 25
    Still, Yanukovych is a cowardly sheep! By offering Nag and Sena positions, thereby “draining” his own. Who will he end up with? And the worst thing is that as a result Petrukha the chocolate agent of the State Department will get through.
    1. 0
      26 January 2014 10: 30
      Quote: Vladimir 70
      thereby “draining” one’s own.

      I agree completely. He now has no allies or supporters.
      On the other hand, Yanyk did not see support from the people. It is also understandable. But here he himself is to blame. He cleared out the political field in eastern Ukraine to such an extent that he did not give the pro-Russian forces the opportunity to unite there. that it finally hit him. He would be happy to raise the people, but who will follow him? And what slogans will he offer to the people? He doesn't even have anything to say. Now he is only bargaining for his future and for his capital.
      1. -2
        26 January 2014 10: 35
        Something tells me that I don’t feel sorry for Lousy hanging from the yardarm. It’s bad that the population will suffer.
    2. DMB-78
      0
      26 January 2014 10: 44
      Quote: Vladimir 70
      Still, Yanukovych is a cowardly sheep! By offering Nag and Sena positions, thereby “draining” his own.

      Yes, he didn’t leak anyone. he made them. he knew that they would not agree and thereby show the world who wants peace and who wants to fight. That's what happened. Now the Janek has a free hand. no one will condemn him for dispersing the Maidan.
      1. 0
        26 January 2014 10: 58
        Yes, he didn’t leak anyone. he made them. he knew that they would not agree and thereby show the world who wants peace and who wants to fight. That's what happened. Now the Janek has a free hand. no one will condemn him for dispersing the Maidan.
        Who did Lousy do? They have already stated that they agree only to their own terms. As a result, Petrukha, an agent of the State Department who sponsored the pogroms along with the “Europeople”, will get through.
        1. DMB-78
          0
          26 January 2014 11: 05
          Quote: Vladimir 70
          Who did Lousy do? They have already stated that they agree only to their own terms. As a result, Petrukha, an agent of the State Department who sponsored the pogroms along with the “Europeople”, will get through.

          One of the leaders of the Ukrainian opposition, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, admitted that he was not delighted with the president’s proposal to head the government of Ukraine. This proposal was not accepted, but it was not rejected either, Yatsenyuk said at a briefing, the contents of which were published by the Batkivshchyna party. The leader of the UDAR party, Vitaliy Klitschko, speaking on Independence Square, also said nothing about Viktor Yanukovych’s proposal to take the post of Deputy Prime Minister. “The opposition insists on holding early presidential elections this year,” Klitschko said, Vesti FM radio reports.
  51. +1
    26 January 2014 11: 12
    The choice is not great - Yanukovych is dispersing the Maidan or the Ukrainian authorities are dispersing the Maidan...there are no options!
    1. zzz
      zzz
      0
      26 January 2014 17: 18
      In this case, the question is - Russian money bye bye?
  52. +1
    26 January 2014 12: 18
    Quote: Johan
    Bandyukovich was pretty embarrassed by offering Klitschko such an honorable position. The humanist should run for beer. Was Tyagnidbok deprived of his honor? Give him the post of Foreign Minister


    That's right, divide and conquer, let them squabble.
  53. 0
    26 January 2014 12: 29
    Quote: quote
    Angela Merkel, as the official representative of Europe “in the Ukrainian crisis,” will support the “restoration of order” as opposed to “fascist chaos.”

    I don’t understand why there are suddenly such strange forecasts? Angela, as a representative of Europe, will not support any decision in favor of Russia in life. Here the fascist regime as opposed to the pro-Russian one is just as much as you want. Well, of course, having previously called it not fascist, but popular. Much like in Syria, Al-Qaeda militants are called rebels and representatives of the oppressed opposition.
    1. DMB-78
      0
      26 January 2014 12: 50
      Quote: Letun
      I don’t understand why there are suddenly such strange forecasts? Angela, as a representative of Europe, will not support any decision in favor of Russia in life.

      Maybe I got on the phone with Putin? laughing
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  56. Andryushamronyuk
    -6
    26 January 2014 14: 31
    You Russians will put your butt under your belt so as not to follow the scenario of the “US State Department” laughing
    1. +3
      26 January 2014 14: 46
      Quote: Andryushamronyuk
      You Russians will put your butt under your belt so as not to follow the scenario of the “US State Department”

      Apparently they tried to instill some sense in you through the back gate, but it never came to your head? Hard case recourse Are there doctors on the site?
    2. DMB-78
      0
      26 January 2014 14: 51
      Quote: Andryushamronyuk
      You Russians will put your butt under your belt so as not to follow the scenario of the “US State Department” laughing

      Andsha, watch this video, and then we’ll talk about who’s dancing
      1. SIBUR-DV
        0
        26 January 2014 18: 13
        Why does the Chevron emblem hang on the banner?
        1. +1
          26 January 2014 19: 14
          NPOs are usually sponsored not directly by the State Department, but by various Foundations or Companies. The companies are also sponsors of these foreign funds. Plus, this is an American-Ukrainian club and, in addition to politics, they focus on the economy.
  57. 0
    26 January 2014 15: 51
    I’ll tell you straight - we played it out, we went for it and we got it! Doing who knows what for 20 years and thinking that this is normal?! (this is about sitting on two chairs).
    So it's all about garlic. I feel sorry for ordinary people, of course... but if you haven’t managed to do it yourself in such a short period of time, accept the help of those to whom you were so drawn!
    But you need to share in a good way.
    Is it really Gagarin or gays? Dilemma...
  58. Andryushamronyuk
    0
    26 January 2014 16: 01
    Don’t offend the myrrh-streaming Saint Victor Yanukovych, he built heaven on earth for us, but his temple needs to be built
  59. +1
    26 January 2014 16: 27
    Most of all I liked about Crimea and Sevastopol - everything else doesn’t bother me!
    Yes, how can I change the yellow-blakite rag on my ave to the flag of Sevastopol?
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  60. ork
    ork
    +2
    26 January 2014 17: 47
    Quote: Vladimir 70
    How pathetic and cowardly Janek is, who needs such a guarantor?

    Unfortunately, neither the western regions, nor even the eastern regions need it. I hope you can guess about the center and south. Those. NOBODY supports the guarantor (for various and often opposing reasons). He has almost FUCKED the security forces.
    After the capture of half of Ukraine and (the worst thing) the arsenals of military units and the remnants of special forces, one very important QUESTION will very soon arise: What to do next???The answer to this question, unfortunately, does not depend on the leaders of Ukraine. It will be decided in the silence of offices far from Kyiv. And this fact does not add optimism to me.
    1. SIBUR-DV
      0
      26 January 2014 18: 03
      It's too early to be sad. Putin has not yet reacted, he is silent like a fish. Here the option may be like this (we went through this). The people do not believe Yanukovych.

      SO Ukrainian live broadcast. Fedorych’s appeal to the people of the Great Independent.
      -Dear Ukrainians, forgive me, I’m tired, I (I’m leaving. Sobs and sheds a stingy tear)
      -I.O I am appointing my Prime Minister Mykola Azarov. (People trust Azarov, by the way) until the next democratic elections in 2015.
      Well, it’s been watered for a year. technologists will find someone

      Z.Y How do you like this passage..
  61. SIBUR-DV
    0
    26 January 2014 18: 06
    Quote: Andryushamronyuk
    Don’t offend the myrrh-streaming Saint Victor Yanukovych, he built heaven on earth for us, but his temple needs to be built


    And dry the relics
  62. 0
    26 January 2014 19: 40
    Violent clashes continue in Ukraine, despite the government's earlier concessions. President Viktor Yanukovych has promised to reform the government and has released dozens of detained activists. But opposition leaders say they will only accept his resignation.
    Sky News correspondent Katie Stallard is now in Kyiv, where clashes between protesters and police continue.

    KATIE STALLARD, Sky News correspondent: Clashes continue here. Protesters insist that the police were the first to open fire. They say this means the truce is over, and they respond by shooting with whatever they can find on hand. They throw firecrackers and Molotov cocktails towards the police.

    The police are about 40 meters away. Protesters stand on burnt buses and wave national flags. All this time they throw tires into the fire to create more smoke. Thus, they make their positions less visible to the police.

    There are several hundred protesters behind the barricades who welcome all this. They destroy everything that gets in their way. They are here ready to defend themselves. They shout: “Glory to Ukraine!” Tonight they intend to hold their positions.


    http://inotv.rt.com/2014-01-25/Evromajdan-prekratil-peremirie-miliciya-pervaya

    Yanukovych only has to lick the heels of the “Holy Trinity” for complete and unconditional humiliation. Berkut surrendered, he surrendered the military... Idk.
    1. DMB-78
      0
      26 January 2014 20: 12
      Quote: hitech
      They say this means the truce is over, and they respond by shooting with whatever they can find on hand. They throw firecrackers and Molotov cocktails towards the police.

      and they find all this at hand? how many cocktails are lying on the streets of Kyiv laughing
  63. -1
    26 January 2014 20: 07
    All the guys... the Berkut is over. Yanyk confused everyone with his indecision. Inglorious ending:
    1. MG42
      0
      27 January 2014 04: 50
      Yes, they forbade him to demolish the Maidan itself, what’s incomprehensible here? then the investments and court oligarchs will lose everything in the West. By the way, the video is quite old now and the cops are not that close to the Maidan; yesterday 300 cops retreated from the Ukrainian House. Here's the latest video >>>
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  64. OldAlex
    +1
    26 January 2014 20: 35
    Two pages of comments, but no use. There will be no self-dissolution of the Maidan. There will be attempts to seize power with the aim of creating a state that will be a counterweight to Russia, just as in the last century Nazi Germany was created to counterbalance the USSR. Most likely, as soon as/if the Maidanites take power in Ukraine, weapons and funds will go.
  65. +3
    26 January 2014 21: 56
    Scenes from the film "Brother-2".






  66. 0
    26 January 2014 22: 45
    A new scenario for the game "S.t.a.l.k.e.r." is being developed in Kyiv. entitled "Surviving the Blowout"!
  67. SIBUR-DV
    0
    27 January 2014 00: 07
    Better than Arnold Schwarzenegger as the President of Ukraine or actor-presidents Bush Sr. and Jr. than Klitschko)))
    PS:
    We have not yet been shown the “strawberry” of the Klitschko brothers - if Klitschko does not become president and “this” will be shown)))
  68. SIBUR-DV
    0
    27 January 2014 00: 09
    rustled, paving stones left. and here you have the place of prime minister, deputy prime minister. sure!!!! and let’s leave the pebbles, maybe they will give the presidency chair? as they say, appetite comes with eating


    I can go to leave the stones for Schwarzenegger! I want the president of Ukraine Schwartz)))) wassat
    1. MG42
      0
      27 January 2014 04: 41
      So Senya did not agree and no, he definitely did not say yes to this position of prime minister, because Klitschko, too, is not needed as a humanitarian deputy prime minister, and Tyagnibok was generally deprived of this position. The radicals have risen, in addition, the “right sector” is practically uncontrollable by the opposition - these are those who are on the front line on the barricades. Klitschko wanted the Ministry of Justice, which was captured today, to be released, but the militants of the revolution are no longer listening to him.
      Most likely, Yanukovych’s days as president are numbered; if he doesn’t urgently agree to early elections now, then the kirdyk will be like Janusses.
      Azarov’s resignation was predicted 1,5 months ago.
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  69. 0
    27 January 2014 01: 51
    As a reserve officer, I am primarily for order. I also don’t like a lot of things about the current government. Yanukovych has repeatedly deceived my expectations, but this is not a reason to throw cobblestones and Molotov cocktails at the police. For such actions, under any government, you will be sent to prison. They must be imprisoned. If I don’t like a politician, or have stopped liking him, then I simply won’t vote for him anymore. But this Syrian scenario unfolding here with American funds does not appeal to me at all. And I already dream in my heart that I will be called up from the reserve to restore order in the country. Not for the sake of Yanukovych, but for the sake of peace on Earth!
  70. +1
    27 January 2014 02: 30
    Here, at least put a minus, or don’t, but if this continues to be connivance, then nothing good will come of it.
  71. MG42
    +1
    27 January 2014 04: 28
    While people here are fantasizing in the Russian media space, in our country the third ministry is being captured in Kyiv; the Ministry of Justice has just been captured, before that the Ministry of Energy and Agriculture. And the Ministry of Justice stores the entire register of owners and property, private and public, on servers.
    Well, the news about the regional councils that were captured probably spread around

    http://delo.ua/ukraine/ukraincy-zahvatyvajut-oblastnye-gosadministracii-obnovlja
    etsja-225232 /
  72. Madlord
    -2
    27 January 2014 05: 38
    70% of those posting comments - quit with the zombie guy and smoke all sorts of nonsense!!! Ukraine as a counterweight to Russia... - Brilliant, Gays or Gagarin - this is generally a masterpiece from the field... The Olympics in Sochi - what's the point anyway??? Civil war - who will fight against whom???
  73. 0
    27 January 2014 08: 35
    Quote: Madlord
    70% of those posting comments - quit with the zombie guy and smoke all sorts of nonsense!!! Ukraine as a counterweight to Russia... - Brilliant, Gays or Gagarin - this is generally a masterpiece from the field... The Olympics in Sochi - what's the point anyway??? Civil war - who will fight against whom???

    What do you think it will look like when the State Department pushes its people into leadership positions? Or do you naively believe that the heroic self-sacrifice of a bearded Armenian on the Maidan will lead you to a bright future? And about smoking, you’d better ask the stormtroopers from the barricades, they’ll throw in something: hemp or hashish oil, for every taste in general.
  74. -1
    27 January 2014 21: 25
    I can't understand who told the Ukrainians that in the EU, it will have a red carpet laid out? If you don't know, ask how it is. Would like to have a job and export goods in the European Union. Government think about their people, not just themselves. Tell them what is happening. Firstly, most businesses can fail, in Europe your goods were not needed. Rules will be imposed on you for what: what exactly to sow cucumbers (only long and straight ones should be). Chickens should be happy (Who cares about people). A tax cauldron for boiling alcohol to people in villages. One monkey from Africa has more rights than we supposedly are members of the European Union. Corruption still exists at full speed. All good things.
    Unfortunately, I forgot! If you've been calling a food or alcoholic product a name for 200 years, it's likely that you need to change its name. Someone else in the EU may decide to have rights to it.