Battle for Ukraine. The onset of the "European Reich" and the scenario of a new European war

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The question of attitude to the European integration of the Russian population in the east and south of Ukraine is becoming increasingly important. There is practically no position of these people in the media, although their future is being decided, and they support the existence of Ukraine with their work. In some cities in the south-east of Ukraine, protests for the European integration of the country have already been organized, but few have supported them.

With Western Ukraine, everything is clear. Galicia (a depressed region where there is a high unemployment rate) is the main supplier of migrant workers. At the same time, Western Ukrainians, despite the traditionally low level of education and production qualifications, are distinguished by excessive self-esteem and a claim to a special socio-political status (in this they are similar to the Polish gentry). With the support of local criminal-comprador clans, European bureaucracy, American and European (mostly Polish) experts on “color revolutions”, Galicia has become the main springboard of the West in Ukraine and is trying to impose its will on the rest of the regions. At the same time, Galicia is a stronghold of Ukrainian neo-Nazism, its symbol is the SS division “Galicia”. Therefore, the activists of the Kiev "euromaidan" of the Galician neo-Nazis - this is a frank "fifth column", the enemies of the people.

There is practically no hope for natives of Central Ukraine. They are distinguished by extraordinary immaturity, faith in a fairy tale, in the arrival of a European Santa Claus, who will solve all their problems. Adult "children" managed to inspire that all their problems were born by evil "Moskals" and Stalin, who organized terror and famine. Entry into the European Union is a belief in a beautiful life, in a fairy tale. EU membership is both an increase in salaries and a solution to the problem of health care, education, housing, security, protection from corruption, crime, etc.

The only hope is for the residents of south-eastern Ukraine.

I must say that the situation that we are now seeing in Ukraine is another consequence of the 1991 geopolitical catastrophe of the year. Then the superethnos of the Rus (Great Russians, Malorussians, Ukrainians and Belorussians) allowed to destroy their huge empire. It is foolish to think that the enemy calmed down on this. All ethnic groups and territory is a resource. Either you use it, or your opponent uses it. In the West and in the East (the Islamic project) they believe that it is time to move on to the next stage of solving the “Russian question” - the stage of further crushing, and then absorbing Russian civilization. Ukraine is just at the threshold of the next crushing (as is Russia). The split along the Dnieper ripened. And in the Crimea, anxious. In particular, the deputy from the Svoboda party, Yuriy Syrotyuk, said that if Kiev does not strangle the “euromaidan” and does not agree with Moscow, the Crimea can go on to organize a referendum on state independence.

It is clear that in this situation the question arises what to do to those Russians who more or less understand the danger of Western Russia being absorbed by Little Russia, but do not know what to do. Indeed, without doing anything, you can find yourself in the situation of the Serbs, who first surrendered large Yugoslavia, then the Serbian regions in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the small Yugoslavia - the union of Serbia and Montenegro, the “heart of Serbia” - Kosovo. Now the turn of the independence of Vojvodina and Sandzak (Raska district). Moreover, despite the strong westernization and support for Russophobic sentiment, many managed to maintain the relative integrity of consciousness, understanding of the historical, cultural, civilizational community of Ukraine and the Russian Federation.

Relationship to European integration in the south-east of Ukraine is sharply negative. People here are smarter, the remnants of the Soviet education system and the Soviet industry allow you to maintain the breadth of outlook and a higher level of employment compared to the west of Ukraine. People understand that European integration will finish off the remaining industrial centers. You can recall the fate of the industry and the social and cultural sphere of the Baltic republics or Bulgaria. Russian Little Russians do not want to be homeless migrant workers in Western European countries. Ukraine still has real wealth that will help it to be a highly developed part of “Great Russia” (“Russian Union”). These are enterprises of the aerospace industry, shipbuilding, engine-building and the military-industrial complex. They have greatly degraded compared with the Soviet period, but under the condition of serious capital investments and modernization (for example, with their participation in the State Arms Program of the Russian Federation before 2020), they can be restored. In addition, Ukraine has four nuclear power plants, including Zaporizhzhya - the largest in Europe, which allows you to export energy. Metallurgy, chemical industry, production of building materials, mining and agriculture! All this will be destroyed, because it does not need the West. Eastern Europe for the old Western countries is a supplier of cheap labor and a sales market for goods, they do not need competitors.

In addition, the West needs the resources of Ukraine. The region has a unique mineral resource base. Geologists have identified about 20 thousand deposits and 117 manifestations of minerals. In Ukraine, there are deposits of iron, manganese, chromium, nickel, titanium, magnesium, aluminum, copper, zinc, lead, coal, peat, shale and uranium. Also found in the bowels of the republic: gold, silver, mercury, beryllium, lithium, zirconium, hafnium, tantalum, niobium, cobalt, tin, molybdenum, tungsten, vanadium, yttrium and lanthanides, as well as scattered elements of germanium, scandium. Identified oil and gas fields. There were even rumors about finding diamonds, but this question requires additional study. Another republic is rich in reserves of various mineral waters with medicinal properties. We must not forget about such important resources as the land on which you can grow rich crops, and water. In the 21st century, they take priority. In Africa and Asia, vast regions lack these resources.

Naturally, the West needs these resources, land and water, they need a certain number of slaves and consumers (the rest must clear the “living space”). In addition, in the West they know that the reunification of Ukraine and Russia is the main step towards the restoration of the empire, the “Russian project”. Therefore, the European Union and the United States gripped Ukraine in a tight grip. Indeed, without Ukraine it is impossible to build a full-fledged "Great Russia".

For more than two decades we have been living in a state of an artificially divided nation. Ukraine is the Russian land occupied by the comprador bourgeoisie and the occupational administration, Russia. Yanukovych was literally a step to the recognition of the fact that he is a Ukrainian Gauleiter in the service of the "Western Reich". His predecessor, Yushchenko, was the outspoken enemy of Russia. The revival of the "Russian Empire" is possible only after the reunification of the Russian Federation and Ukraine.

"Landing forces" from the already fully occupied lands of the former USSR and the social bloc (Georgia, Poland), from the European Union and the USA follow one after another. The impudence of Western structures is so obvious that it reaches tragicomic limits. Washington dictates to Kiev how to deal with the “swamps” (in ancient times, the place where the rebels gathered was called the “Goat Swamp”, it was called Maidan only in 1991). US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel in a telephone conversation with his Ukrainian counterpart Pavel Lebedev warns Kiev against the dispersal of the "Euromaidan". Criminals seizing government agencies destroying historical monuments do not allow to punish by law. Obviously, if in Ukraine events will develop according to the “Syrian scenario”, and such an opportunity already exists, the West will support liberal, neo-Nazi, Islamist and separatist (Crimean Tatars, Romanians and Hungarians) gangs. Financing of revolutionary forces on the part of the oligarchy and the West is obvious to almost everyone.

Representatives of the West behave as if in Odessa, Sevastopol and Kiev, NATO forces are already standing. In essence, the European Union is playing the part of the “Fourth Reich”, which is building a “united Europe”. "The pressure on the East" continues. Russia cannot be allowed to combine the wreckage of a single whole. It is not for nothing that the German chancellor Otto von Bismarck is credited with the phrase: “Russia's power can be undermined only by Ukraine’s separation from it ... it is necessary not only to tear off Ukraine, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia, slay two parts of a single nation and watch how a brother will kill a brother. To do this, you only need to find and cultivate traitors among the national elite and with their help change the self-consciousness of one part of a great nation to such an extent that it will hate everything Russian, hate its kind without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time. ” Later his thought was repeated by Zbigniew Brzezinski: “Russia without Ukraine ceases to be a Eurasian empire”. The worst enemy of Russia, Lev Trotsky, also knew about this: “Russia cannot exist without Ukraine”.

There is a real battle for Ukraine. The question of the future of all Russian civilization is being resolved. Together, Russia, Ukraine, Transnistria, Belarus and Kazakhstan will be self-sufficient, will be able to become a player of global importance. Therefore, the main problem is who will raise the issue of the illegitimacy of the collapse of the USSR and take a course towards the reunification of Russian lands. All current political fuss does not matter in comparison with the problem of reuniting the divided superethnos of the Rus, the Russian lands (Rus), the rejection of the treacherous Belovezhsky treaty, the borders of the 1991 of the year. A politician of a global level of significance, which has gone down in history as the new unifier of Russia, will be the person who will solve this problem. You can not give the initiative to the West and its "fifth column", "rats" in the Russian Federation and Ukraine. Sitting on the stove, we deprive the future of our civilization and all its peoples.

Thus, on the one hand, we observe events of global significance. This is a battle of civilizations, a battle for the future of Russia. Having lost it, we will allow the enemy to further crush Russian space, absorb its debris. On the other hand, as mentioned above, it is a question of resources. The economic and social model of the West is inherently parasitic. The West is a ghoul civilization. He constantly needs new victims, territories, resources and slaves to exist. The system is extensive. She constantly needs nourishment. Western "vampires" killed and drank the blood (resources) of dozens of peoples and nationalities of America, Africa, Asia, Australia and Oceania. Tens of millions of people became their victims. This is not an exaggeration. Only during the Second World War, which was unleashed by the masters of the West, about 50 million people were killed.

The West was able to crush the Russian empire, it sucked the resources of tens of billions of gold rubles from it. In 1991, the Western world was able to win another victory over Russia. It was a great robbery, which (on a slightly smaller scale than in the 1990-th - the beginning of the 2000-s) continues to this day. Russian President Vladimir Putin acknowledged this in his last message. In 2011 alone, 191 billion was illegally withdrawn from the country. That's more than what was stolen from China - 151 billion dollars, and India - about 85 billion dollars. And if in China the outflow is about 1,5% of GDP, then in the Russian Federation almost 9,5%. In the whole world, this level reaches about 4% of GDP. We are even below the level of Black Africa south of the Sahara, where it averages 5,7% of GDP. And for the period 2002-2011. 881 billion dollars flowed out of Russia (this is about the question of where to get money for the new industrialization of Russia and a larger rearmament of the army, the exploration of near space). For this period, we are second only to China: the Chinese have lost 1 trillion. dollars. However, the Chinese economy is the second in the world, that is, in percentage terms its loss is lower.

Robbery of Russia, the current means and resources of the West is not enough. The parasitic nature of Western civilization has caused a global systemic crisis. Out of it, the masters of the West know only one thing - murder, robbery and dismemberment. The West needs a big war and our territories, resources - naturally, without “extra biomass”. At the present stage (in the medium term), Ukraine should become a donor of the Old World. The EU needs expansion to the east to solve its problems. Ukraine is a large market for goods, its population is about 50 million. For comparison, in Italy - about 60 million people, in France - 63 million people. That is, according to their labor resources and the possibility of consumption, Ukraine is comparable to them. In addition, Ukrainian labor is cheaper, and quite skilled. Another advantage is that the Ukrainians are representatives of the white race, which will help to contain the racial and cultural erosion of Western Europe. And the “optimization” of the Ukrainian industry will be a good source of income. In the future, can be useful and Ukrainian bowels. Ukraine can become a waste dump. Western companies (Shell, Chevron, Exxon Mobil) have already obtained the right to produce shale gas, which, according to some experts, will lead to an ecological disaster in a number of regions of Ukraine.

What to do? On the position of Russia

First you need to clearly understand that you have to pay for everything. It's time to pay for 1991 a year. Everyone knows that any running problem has two stages. In the first, you can still turn the tide, break the wrong, return a relatively normal state of affairs. In the second situation can not be reversed. Apparently, in Ukraine the second case.

Run to Russia? On the one hand, the Russians should live in Russia, so it was necessary to move for a long time. On the other hand, Small Russia is a part of Big Russia, Russian civilization. Kiev is one of our ancient capitals. Today you will run away from Ukraine, tomorrow the enemy will squeeze us out of Stavropol, Pskov, Karelia, Kazan region, the Far East and Siberia. You can not run, it is a defeat, an outcome.

Get involved in a fight with zapadentsami? Here, too, is a vicious circle. On the one hand, this “Kahal” has already gotten it. We retreat and retreat. We lose one battle after another. Maybe it's time to rest? The world is on the verge of cardinal changes, it's time to collect stones, strengthen the ranks, clean them from enemies, mobilize spiritual and physical forces. The enemy must be put in place. On the other hand, there is a trap again. If the south-east of Ukraine seriously clashes with Galicia, the Western world will win again. Russian, Slavs will fight with each other again. Zapadentsev-is also part of the Russian world, the Ruses, who were inspired that they are "a special people." This is a gift to Washington and London: the Russians will kill the Russians, who have forgotten that they are Russians! .. We know that the Russians are at war, and in history they have repeatedly fought each other, and with particular bitterness. This is a scary script. You can read about it in the book of Gleb Bobrov "The Epoch of the Stillborn" or carefully study the chronicle of the war in Syria. Unfortunately, this scenario is quite real. Little Russia has long been a place of refraction of civilizations, opposition to the East and the West. Suffice it to recall how Ukrainian hetmans rushed between the West (Poland, Sweden), Turkey and Russia. Now Yanukovych completely repeated these throwings.

Thus, if opponents of European integration arrange a butch in the style of “Ukrainian bogs”, they will only play up the enemy. Civil confrontation in Ukraine promises to be very cruel and bloody. In general, such a scenario will suit a large part of the big oligarchic capital, the political “elite” merged with the big bourgeoisie. We must not forget that almost all of these people - with a criminal past or present. For two decades they have stripped the country as sticky, and in principle are ready to surrender the country to the West for legalization in Europe and preserving a significant part of the loot. In Russia, most likely, they will not be legalized, we ourselves are going to have a “sweep” - the first signs in the North Caucasus have already gone. Thus, the “energy king” of the Caucasus, Magomet Kaitov, the general director of the Caucasus energy management company, formerly part of RAO UES, was arrested. Mayor of Makhachkala Said Amirov was arrested earlier. It is believed that the federal center, following Dagestan, launched an active campaign against ethnic mafia clans in Karachay-Cherkessia. Under the conditions of the world and Russian crisis, when the sources of income melt, the purging of the “elite” is a common phenomenon. Therefore, the Ukrainian semi-criminal beau monde will not be supported in Russia.

The Ukrainian "elite" is ready to "go the distance", this will allow you to save capital (the owners of the West can select them a little later) and carry out the operation "The ends in the water." In the troubled Ukraine, there will be no time for investigations, confiscation of property and bills.

Under these conditions, the population of the south-east of Ukraine needs “elders”, a real elite, ready to defend the interests of the Russians, the idea of ​​restoring “Great Russia”. This elite must be created almost from scratch. The Party of Regions used the pro-Russian aspirations of Eastern Ukraine, won. But in reality, this is a party of big capital, the comprador bourgeoisie, ready to surrender the country. Moreover, in recent years, the authorities have destroyed Russian and pro-Russian organizational (trade union, social, ethnocultural) structures. Everything was literally done so that the people were not ready to repel external and internal aggression. As a result, there was simply no one to express the opinion of the majority of the people. But this is a temporary phenomenon. With further development of the situation, the emergence of these people's leaders is inevitable. Already, there are people who understand the essence of events.

But they will be able to win only when they oppose the concept of "European integration" with their concept, rising above the enemy "master plan." A truly great politician and powerful political force in Ukraine will be the only one who declares the unification of Russia into a single state as his course. Who will talk about the restoration of a single nation, to pursue politics from the standpoint of the interests of the people, the Russian civilization. Anyone who will be ready to resist the will of the current criminal separatist "elites".

To be continued ...
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  1. Sax
    Sax
    -3
    17 December 2013 20: 14
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    The same cannot be said about noble birds.

    Are these you, noble birds!? Re-read everything written above! And appeal to your conscience when answering.
  2. Sax
    Sax
    -7
    17 December 2013 20: 22
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Well, the Ukrainian brothers seem to have agreed! Agreements have been signed for key ministries and departments..I am glad from the bottom of my heart..! It's time to work! A bad peace is better than a good war, to the delight of the Anglo-Saxons!

    A representative from the tank cavalry with a weak Internet, I think every reasonable person understands that before the presidential elections everything that was signed (here are the “ears” of the Gebni archives on Bandyukovich + the loot is at his mercy from your national funds wink = 100% purchase) - waste paper. Change of power in Ukraine = scribe to all these agreements. lol And elections can happen at any moment. So it’s wiser to wait to draw conclusions.
    1. +2
      17 December 2013 20: 58
      You have Sax// Novodvorskaya’s style..You’re kind of evil..hehehe bully

      Quote: Sax
      Change of power in Ukraine = scribe to all these agreements

      Well, it’s like saying .. “A contract is more expensive than money..” So it’s too late to spit saliva.. Everything is going according to plan (give my warm regards to your McCain...))) He feels nauseous again and his stomach is growling..??? laughing
    2. xan
      +2
      18 December 2013 00: 40
      Quote: Sax
      Change of power in Ukraine = scribe to all these agreements

      Balabol, where was this change of power when you flawed people continued to buy, in your words, “the most expensive gas”?
  3. +4
    17 December 2013 20: 27
    Most Ukrainians just want to work normally and be confident in the future.. Now orders will go to enterprises that are real and have a future.. the industrial potential of Ukraine has been idle for a long time.. Now this is the main thing..! And both yours and ours will steal..(with this somehow you can figure out the future..) But this is better than signing agreements on “same-sex marriage” ugh damn it and allowing gay pride parades together with Bandera’s supporters.. etc.. It’s time for men to work together.. (it was not for nothing that the Anglo-Saxons destroyed our The military-industrial complex is 20 years old...(they were and are afraid of our potential in everything!) So the Slavs are moving forward little by little in spite of their enemies.. fellow
    1. sasska
      0
      17 December 2013 20: 40
      the majority - yes. Only you take into account the fierce pain of the adherents of the Western Westerners from the successes of eastern industrial Ukraine? there are few of them, but... (remember the saying about the bedbug?)
      Most likely, the screaming and buses to the Goat Marsh under the conducting of the geyropa will continue.
    2. sapran
      +3
      17 December 2013 20: 41
      When will you see the light and understand one simple thing. Modern Russia will not repeat the mistakes of the USSR.
      1. Everything related to technology and defense will only be in Russia (they just have to put up with it for now, but with such an agreement it will be easier to “borrow”) (a simple example of replacing MAZ with KAMAZ and BAZ)
      2. everything around Russia should be in a controlled stranglehold; a light form of a buffer zone with an instant reaction to the uncontrollable disturbances of the slaves (and most importantly, by the hands of the slaves themselves)
      3. Someone needs to go to Yamal (and if it’s so satisfying in Ukraine and Belarus, then who will go there)
      So the bone is thrown - eat, just don’t suddenly choke.
  4. +1
    17 December 2013 20: 35
    Quote: Sax
    Change of power in Ukraine = scribe to all these agreements

    I can just see how in this case 15 billion lots are put up on the stock exchange, wow, what fun will begin :-)
  5. 0
    17 December 2013 20: 37
    Biomass! Wake up!
  6. +1
    17 December 2013 20: 40
    they decided to build a bridge across the Kerch Strait
  7. +6
    17 December 2013 20: 43
    Putin and Yanukovych dealt a powerful blow to the opposition and Europe and America! Let them try to show such results! According to some experts, this “revolution” cost Oppa and their foreign sponsors 250 million hryvnia. For comparison, for this money it was possible to launch five medium-sized mining enterprises. Turnkey, with brand new equipment. But this is all “under the counter”! And here everything is open! And I was especially pleased -
    Putin offers Ukraine closer military cooperation
    Russia and Ukraine can cooperate more closely in the international arena and should resume full cooperation in the military sphere, said President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin.
    “Russia and Ukraine could interact more closely in the international arena and expand coordination of positions on current global issues,” Putin said at a meeting of Russian-Ukrainian interstate consultations.

    First of all, Putin added, we are talking about regional security, the key factor of which is the Black Sea Fleet based in Sevastopol.

    “It is necessary to resume comprehensive cooperation in the military, military-technical spheres. The President of Ukraine and I talked a lot about this,” Putin said. http://www.versii.com/news/293609/
    1. sapran
      +6
      17 December 2013 20: 46
      There is only one thing that can be said about Putin - WELL DONE.
      Here he won everything for the good of Russia on all fronts and directions...
  8. foreman
    +5
    17 December 2013 20: 59
    It was on the Maidan.
  9. +1
    17 December 2013 21: 01
    Guys, I don’t see how Putin won? Explain to me. Winning one round does not mean winning the battle. Look at the situation from the outside, without prejudice.
    Nothing is clear yet. The confrontation continues.
    It was necessary to work with Ukraine all the years after coming to power, and not to show one’s imperial superiority. He gave free rein to Gazprom to pursue foreign policy towards its neighbors. So I finished the game. Now, emergency measures are being taken.

    Gas prices have been reduced... As I understand it, we will pay compensation? Who else?
    Get ready people. Fines will be increased, new ones will be invented, tariffs and off we go.
    How “dear” our Guarantor is to me.
    So, is Ukraine guaranteed to be with us for about 100 years? Also no...
    At our expense he will move to the EU. Yes, even on the way to GDP, the fellow Judas will salivate 15 billionaires, for the first time, so to speak. With such a dowry, Ukraine will look better.
    I feel somewhat ashamed of such decisions. Like Vysotsky: “No guys, it’s not like that...”
    1. xan
      +4
      18 December 2013 00: 55
      Quote: Samsebenum
      With such a dowry, Ukraine will look better.
      I feel somewhat ashamed of such decisions. Like Vysotsky: “No guys, it’s not like that...”

      Yes, calm down.
      The loot will be extended over two years, and not direct investments, but in government securities, which any government is obliged to pay. The reduction in gas prices - you still need to look at it, for some kind of good thing the GDP has become so generous. Last time Yulia also screamed at the whole world “PEREMOGA”, now she is sitting for this victory, and Ukraine is paying. Now the Ukrainian hetman, and this is a legitimate government, is in Putin’s pocket, his GDP, one might say, has been pulled out of the noose. And everything else blah blah is just tinsel.
      Now the fun begins. One thing gives hope - no one has yet pushed the GDP team at the international level.
    2. +1
      18 December 2013 01: 16
      Quote: Samsebenum
      At our expense he will move to the EU. Yes, even on the way to GDP, the fellow Judas will salivate 15 billionaires, for the first time, so to speak.

      15 lard will not come from the Russian budget, we have already allocated it. And they were transferred from the reserve fund that is in US securities....
  10. +4
    17 December 2013 21: 18
    Here the main point is that the industry of Ukraine will work..(specialists, engineers, mechanics and designers.. will not lose their qualifications.) Remember how in the 90s, top-class specialists, teachers and professors went to Turkey, Poland for rags in order to survive.. (and the majority simply got drunk from resentment and hopelessness ..)How many enterprises and research institutes in Russia were destroyed..? No one could help Russia then..(and set us on the right path..) We always rely only on ourselves and help other nations (realizing that no one will help us like that..) And yet we do it! Because the Truth is on our side..And God helps us in difficult times (and we help others..)! That's how things are...I think...
  11. 0
    17 December 2013 21: 42
    Goes to the historical homeland.
    1. +9
      17 December 2013 21: 54
      Once again, the topic is about Ukraine, I’ll write this: my congratulations, my best wishes and most importantly, health and long life to the favorite of millions, Leonid Sergeevich Bronevoy. Happy 85th birthday to you.
  12. stranik72
    +2
    17 December 2013 22: 04
    I respect Ukraine, I sincerely worry about Eastern Ukraine and understand that Western Ukraine is basically an enemy side for Russia. I don’t know the true purpose of my country’s action, which made such a gift, when we ourselves, to put it mildly, are not living very well. Yes, I heard one of the greats say, “honesty in politics is equal to stupidity.” The Westerners (for me they are Banderaites) will not change their attitude towards Russia, we will not become closer to them, and sooner or later they will achieve their goal (to be a Cerberus on our borders). So what is this generosity for, again for a bunch of nouveau riche who have a business there. But what about the Russian people, because it is true that it is impossible to build a strong state without increasing the well-being of the people. Precisely the common people. And if they (GDP and Co.) had followed this path, maybe Bandera’s followers would have calmed down over time. And so they will have even more anger towards Russia. Remember in 1991, we gained independence from Russia, and in 1995 we fought against it. So it would be better if the Ukrainians themselves first figured out among themselves who was going where for what and with whom. But we would not abandon our own, as has been the case since Khmelnitsky’s time.
    1. xan
      +2
      18 December 2013 01: 07
      Quote: stranik72
      So it would be better if the Ukrainians themselves first figured out among themselves who was going where for what and with whom. But we would not abandon our own, as has been the case since Khmelnitsky’s time.

      Who knows, maybe some kind of multi-move. Maybe now the Westerners will do something big, and Yanyk, as the legitimate government, will decide to peacefully divide the country.
      One thing is clear - now Yanyk is zero without the Darkest.
      Yes, and such good things in this situation do not allow one to calculate all the options, but judging by the successes of Putin’s team internationally, the Kremlin knows how to calculate.
      VVP doesn’t look like an altruist; he doesn’t put pipes around him just to buy himself like that.
      Now foreign countries will begin to scream.
  13. +2
    17 December 2013 22: 28
    God forbid we live to see the days when we will bully the United States like this, convincing the blacks that they are at the top of the palm trees and their main coconut, the Latin Americans that it’s time to come out of the shadows, and the whites that it’s time to disperse the first two
  14. +4
    17 December 2013 22: 34
    It seems to me that everything was decided a long time ago and Merkel came to St. Petersburg for the last “consultations.” Looking at GDP and his calmness, it seemed to me that he knows how it will all end. The Maidanuts will still go crazy with the Gayropians (while there is money left), and then they will “get off at the stop” and start bawling “from around the corner.” I don’t think that we and the Gayropians have given away a lot of money to the Maidanuts, and even if they promised more, there is no “movement” there is no money for their goal.
  15. +1
    17 December 2013 22: 39
    Quote: kosopuz
    And here are the swamp evil spirits - “swamp”


    In the old days, Bolotnaya Square was the largest grain market in Russia, but after the development of Railway Transport, it began to lose its former importance.

    In general, Yakunin is to blame for everything.
  16. +2
    17 December 2013 23: 11
    Quote: Garik
    Madmen + money - a dangerous combination ...

    It's like a monkey with a grenade.
  17. Sax
    Sax
    0
    17 December 2013 23: 40
    Quote: xan
    Have you been to Sevastopol? One immediately notices the undisguised contempt of the locals for everything Ukrainian, as well as the presence of Ukrainian only on signs.

    So you want to say that everything Ukrainian deserves contempt?
    Well... you're childish........deleted by moderator Apollo. (in all my comments I have never once expressed contempt for Russians and Russians. Are YOU trying to push me to aggression? Again......deleted. Alas wink
    1. xan
      +2
      18 December 2013 01: 24
      Quote: Sax
      I have never once expressed contempt for Russians and Russians

      No one has poured out as much ram on the Russians as the noble Ukrainians poured out for the lands donated by the Russians. And there is no need to impose Ukrainian identity on the Russian Crimea - they can’t stand you there, sooner or later you will give it away, you are already giving it away.
  18. Sax
    Sax
    -4
    17 December 2013 23: 53
    Quote: MIKHAN
    But this is better than signing agreements on “same-sex marriage” ugh damn it and allowing gay pride parades

    Why is he like that! How old are you that such complexes are caused by sexual disorders? Yes, you should finally go to a sex therapist, and then to a psychotherapist. There is always a chance wink
    Quote: MIKHAN
    And both yours and ours will steal..(this can be sorted out somehow in the future..)

    But this is exactly what we don’t want. We do not want preserve not for a minute. This is precisely the main difference between us and you.
    Quote: MIKHAN
    It's time for guys to work together..(no wonder the Anglo-Saxons destroyed our military-industrial complex for 20 years...

    Here! This is your main GOAL. And all this snot about brotherhood and Slavism - blah blah. No more. The main thing is industrial potential, specialists and technology. You are sick of the “Great Russian Empire”. Everything else is lies and hypocrisy. So that.
  19. +2
    18 December 2013 00: 16
    The photo shows stupid McCain and one of the Klitschko brothers. Well, with McCain everything is clear; he is a dumbass from birth, but Klitschko apparently got his head knocked off in fights in the ring.
  20. Sax
    Sax
    -1
    18 December 2013 00: 19
    Dear Apollo, thanks for the “deletions”, this adds additional intrigue wink Let him try to guess what I meant hi
    1. +2
      18 December 2013 00: 23
      Quote: Sax
      Dear Apollo, thanks for the “deletions”, this adds additional intrigue

      There is no need to thank you, but I personally advise you not to break the rules, I am not obliged to edit or correct comments. Next time I will delete the comment entirely.
    2. xan
      0
      18 December 2013 01: 29
      Quote: Sax
      Let him try to guess what I meant hi

      Yeah, I’ll sit here and rack my brains.
      You are funny.
  21. 0
    18 December 2013 00: 20
    Quote: Sax
    Typical redneck recourse Well, at least they showed something decent. Laughter and that's it. Let me quote the statements of ordinary Ukrainians. Reasonable people.
    Alexandr Konkiewicz _ 17.12.2013/17/01 XNUMX:XNUMX
    "Reinvigorate spivuro-biology in the military sphere"
    This means that emerging technologies will never come to Ukraine. So that Ukraine no longer faces daily advantages over Russia and independence, in essence, loses some kind of economic sense.
    Putin finally achieved his goal.

    _ 17.12.2013/16/56 XNUMX:XNUMX
    They were talking about Sevastopol, right?
    Yes, we Sevastopol residents don’t give a damn about this fleet, we are ready to burn it, the only dubious use from it is some % of tourist excursions, EVERYTHING, these vessels here humiliate the residents of Sevastopol, Russian sailors humiliate their own Russian brothers here in Sevastopol, the coastal strip, everywhere their houses are stupid, and the builders cheated Sevastopol residents a couple of times with the construction of houses, this is an international deception! and even this fleet is quarreling Russians with Ukrainians here, in Sevastopol, in a multinational city!

    No one needs the fleet, if another new vessel sails here - it will not leave the port healthy for its military call!

    Putyata Vladimirov _ 17.12.2013/16/55 XNUMX:XNUMX
    He will only be able to coordinate something personally with Yanukovych and the PR, and not with Ukraine

    Yuriy Andreev _ 17.12.2013/16/55 XNUMX:XNUMX
    The military-industrial complex is more needed by Russia, because it has large territories and a lot of disputes, and only Russia itself can invade Ukraine, so we have decided to unsafely unite with them in the military sphere....

    Russia spends its “easy pennies” from oil and gas, not for the wealth of officials, but for the army, and most ordinary Russians are not very wealthy

    What needed to be proven, as I wrote above
  22. Sax
    Sax
    -1
    18 December 2013 00: 25
    Quote: MIKHAN
    You have Sax// Novodvorskaya’s style..You’re kind of evil..hehehe

    But what is my malice? recourse Have mercy ...
    But your attacks - yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss... laughing
  23. Sax
    Sax
    +1
    18 December 2013 00: 30
    Quote: Apollon
    Once again, the topic is about Ukraine, I’ll write this: my congratulations, my best wishes and most importantly, health and long life to the favorite of millions, Leonid Sergeevich Bronevoy. Happy 85th birthday to you.

    Thank you for the reminder. I bow before this block. Once this Great One even came to my hometown and I watched him from the third row... I couldn’t sleep for three days. Wow! There was a time...
  24. +2
    18 December 2013 00: 36
    and again the main clown.
    1. Sax
      Sax
      0
      18 December 2013 00: 40
      Why did you attack an old sick man? Let him go in peace. Yes
      1. The comment was deleted.
  25. Sax
    Sax
    0
    18 December 2013 00: 43
    Quote: Apollon
    There is no need to thank you, but I personally advise you not to break the rules, I am not obliged to edit or correct comments. Next time I will delete the comment entirely.

    I appreciated it, especially the “whole” one. I will try request
  26. standby
    +3
    18 December 2013 00: 47
    In my opinion, the author went a little too pathetic, but the alignment in the article is correct, +. I was watching the news just now. We are investing 15 billion in Ukraine and reducing the price of gas. I personally, as a citizen, don’t feel sorry for the money, it’s just the question of “Who is your friend Ukraine?!”, it would help! Normally, elegantly and nobly, you can say: “Figure out for yourself in your country, what course you will take there - this is your internal matter! You feel bad now, we are helping, by deeds, and we will “brotherly reduce” gas prices and give you money , and we will implement production projects together! Russians do not abandon their own in trouble!" And then decide for yourself who is “yours” for you, McCain or.... I hope it will also be effective!
  27. Sax
    Sax
    0
    18 December 2013 00: 47
    Quote: Apollon
    There is no need to thank you, but I personally advise you not to break the rules, I am not obliged to edit or correct comments. Next time I will delete the comment entirely.

    I appreciated it, especially the “whole” one. I will try request
  28. Sax
    Sax
    0
    18 December 2013 00: 49
    Quote: 020205
    What needed to be proven, as I wrote above

    Can you help me find “what I wrote about above”?
  29. Sax
    Sax
    -1
    18 December 2013 00: 52
    Quote: Standby
    You feel bad now, we are helping, by deeds, and we will “brotherly reduce” gas prices, and we will give money, and we will implement production projects together! Russians don’t abandon their own people in trouble!”

    And will we steal the same things together, fraternally, as “our own”?
  30. EvigKrig
    0
    18 December 2013 00: 57
    Photo, editing.
  31. Sax
    Sax
    -5
    18 December 2013 01: 01
    I wanted to share how Ukrainians see true, and not retouched, events:
    1. xan
      +1
      18 December 2013 01: 12
      You are a dark Saxon, and out of touch with reality.
      If this were so, there would be no Maidan, and Westerners and Ukrainian-Europeans swore eternal loyalty to Yanukovych.
      1. Sax
        Sax
        -2
        18 December 2013 01: 19
        Listen, bright one, you live far from Kyiv, in another country, you have a different mentality, etc. You are DIFFERENT. So what gives you the right to disdain other people? Well, who are you? Are you judging by yourself?
        Apollo forbade me to speak out “from the heart,” but I promised to try fellow
        Well, you... Well, don’t you understand? Do you know what "squalor" means?
        1. xan
          +3
          18 December 2013 01: 41
          Quote: Sax
          Listen, bright one, you live far from Kyiv, in another country, you have a different mentality, etc. You are DIFFERENT.

          Would you try to mentally drive up to the cops somewhere in the world on a tractor, and then call them SS men.
          In general, stop smearing snot all over the screen.
          I stop noticing your writing, child, otherwise you’ll start to get hysterical.
          Again Apollo will take away his favorite toy.
    2. Mower
      -1
      18 December 2013 08: 51
      yes yes, the damned security officers beat the children
    3. sasska
      0
      18 December 2013 12: 04
      eco has poked you... maybe you can drop a grain of what you're smoking?
    4. DarkStar
      +1
      18 December 2013 13: 22
      Well, there is no need to declare here on behalf of the Ukrainians. If it weren’t for the golden eagle, blood would already be flowing like a river in the country, because the east and south would not have tolerated the second coming of these
  32. +2
    18 December 2013 01: 26
    To hell with everything! Russia, instead of putting the “leaders of the Square” in their place, again, otherwise how to call it “garbage”, is busy: they cut the price of gas from some Perelak by a third, although a week ago they said that the contract was long-term, and There is no reason to revise the price, and they gave 15 lard of credit, etc. and so on. And what in return?! Nezalezhnaya, as her buttocks seemed to her “big brother”, continues to show so!!! After all, even the day before the trip with that bare ass to Moscow to beg for “good things” there, the prime minister of the independent territory (this squalor cannot be called a state) loudly and aloud confirmed the thought about the gay European choice of territory and the general tendency to move west... So why the hell is Russia giving gifts to these...., without having anything in return, either economically or politically?! The USSR gave help to various wretched people, its fate is unenviable, doesn’t Russia have its own problems to provide “brotherly help” to traitors?! And he’s not afraid to repeat the fate of the great collapsed country?!
    1. Sax
      Sax
      -1
      18 December 2013 01: 34
      You are right: again your leader is realizing his geopolitical dreams at your expense. But we should not let the boor on the doorstep. That would be loyalty to principles! And so... Alas, we have entered into a puddle again...
      1. Van
        0
        18 December 2013 17: 23
        Quote: Sax
        You are right: again your leader is realizing his geopolitical dreams at your expense.

        All this is possible, but I want to clarify one point. Russia doesn’t give money in cash to Ukraine, it seems to be investing in the country’s securities, and this, excuse me, is a completely different case, and I think that the only correct thing on Russia’s part is that they won’t stuff it into their pockets, as if someone could hope for something like this. And Russia also minimized losses, since in order to devalue all securities, Ukraine would have to declare itself bankrupt, but that’s another story...
  33. biglow
    +4
    18 December 2013 01: 40
    Banderlog is howling on all sites, Yanukovych sold Ukraine again and cheaply too laughing
    1. Mower
      -1
      18 December 2013 08: 46
      peremoga - celebration of peremoga - awareness of the results - search for the culprit wink
  34. +1
    18 December 2013 03: 02
    The EU is accustomed to perceiving Ukrainians at the level of serviceable workaholics, who are almost unaware of such notes as nationalism... If only residents of Lvov, Gatchina, Ivano-Frankivsk are openly allowed into the EU.... Wow, they’ll let you light a cigarette, cooler than any Albanians there....
  35. +2
    18 December 2013 04: 08
    next act according to the script. Quite an interesting gambit. Predictable on the outside, but behind the scenes... The troika (not the Maidan trinity and the other “shadow”) followed an outwardly predictable and disguised scenario.
    And on the topic --- I just caught myself thinking, among us Galicians, that your Dagestanis are Caucasians. Residents of the country, but rather problematic residents.
    I read one thing on the Internet, the Western Gaster teaches us how we (the southeast) can bring the country to the European level if we don’t know how to work like in Europe (hints that they worked there)
    Well, I couldn't help but grin. He probably worked as an engineer, or a scientist... He worked as a designer, for sure... he collected toiletries...
    Let them yell, we now clearly know that they can’t do anything other than yell and litter the capital, before they were at least of some use (cultural heritage and architecture), now I understand that this is the “Ukrainian Caucasus”.
    Don’t read Ukrainian forums, there a group of trolls immediately begins to rudely provoke everyone and everything. The Internet has long turned from a place of communication into a trash heap. There is little culture.
    As for political and economic carrots. Damn...he kicked it again. When he personally (not Roshen, no pipes, no cheese, no milk) but HIM, the GDP will take him and squeeze him once and for all! Without touching the country and people's jobs.
    1. sapran
      0
      18 December 2013 10: 55
      Almost an interesting thought. What university did you graduate from as a designer? Do you have work experience specifically in the system (to create), and not to butter your tongue? I have friends who live in Kharkov - they have bright heads and don’t work wonders on owls. And in the same way, how can people who are from Yavorov themselves but work as designers for Boeing understand how to perceive them more accurately?
      The meaning of my post is simple. Decent people live everywhere, just like the ***** that exists in this society. Don't hang labels or you'll feel like you're from the food section of a supermarket...
  36. +1
    18 December 2013 06: 39
    Quote: Sax
    But we should not let the boor on the doorstep.

    A politician is someone who can find a common language at the same table with a banker, a beggar, a nun and a prostitute, and if you are very principled, then you can even end up with a bare bottom
  37. -2
    18 December 2013 07: 35
    Quote: ALEXXX1983
    Today Russia reduced the price of gas for Ukraine and was going to invest $15 billion in Ukrainian government bonds!!!

    Something happened that I already wrote about above, and that some people didn’t really like. But, one way or another, Putin did buy Ukraine. Now there are only two questions left:
    - can Russia afford such an expensive purchase;
    - won’t the good Ukrainians “dump” us at the first opportunity?
    Regarding the first question - no, of course it’s not affordable. Ukraine is such an important purchase that you have to pay no matter how much they ask. But the economic state of the Russian Federation is terrible, and part of the agreements will, of course, come at the expense of ordinary Russians: underpaid pensions, underpaid salaries. You will have to pick out not just one hole, but two or three. But the situation of the ordinary Ukrainian will not improve much - if we divide 15 billion by 40 million Ukrainians, we will get 350 dollars per snout. Not a lot, although a pleasant trifle.
    The second question posed above - won’t they throw you away?
    I answer - they will throw it at the first opportunity. That’s how it works, Russian-Ukrainian interstate cooperation. As soon as they steal everything that can be stolen, they start throwing it away. At both sides. And here it is necessary to have time to build relations from below in such a way that this interstate scam does not cause artificial hatred of Ukrainians towards Russians, but a joint desire to restore order on both sides of the still semi-virtual border, and not block it and grind their teeth at each other from hunger.
    1. Mower
      0
      18 December 2013 08: 48
      here are the nuances.....http://spydell.livejournal.com/520114.html
  38. +1
    18 December 2013 08: 55
    A truly great politician and a powerful political force in Ukraine will only be the one who declares his course to be the unification of Rus' into a single state.

    There is already an example. Belarus and their Old Man.
  39. So_o_tozh
    0
    18 December 2013 12: 09
    I am pleased and thank God that a friend is known in trouble. Russia, as always, came to the aid of Ukraine, although most likely smart people understand that the narrow-minded people in Ukraine will always criticize Russia, and they will steal the help in no time, it’s just the way we have power. Now, as I understand it, we need to fully support either Yanyk or the communists before the elections, those who can actually do something and be committed to an alliance with Russia. Now, if Yanyk has any remnants of honor left, he must directly declare to the whole world who saved him, and first of all Ukraine, in difficult times and where Ukraine needs to move. Well, how can we beggars with narrow-minded leadership join the European Union? What position will we be in there? Don’t Banderlogs really understand this? or they’re just used to bending over backwards for money, they don’t smell. It is necessary to persistently, roughly speaking, advertise the union of fraternal peoples in all media. Well, I don’t believe in the ability of Ukrainians themselves to establish a decent life in their country. Whoever rises to power in our country works only for himself, and it is unknown when this era of wild capitalism will end.
  40. DarkStar
    0
    18 December 2013 13: 03
    Klychek is a pissing fagot, I realized this back in 2004, when he was beating some elderly black man with an orange ribbon!
  41. 0
    18 December 2013 14: 54
    familiar with the Ivano-Frankivsk region. talking to children, people are rushing on trains to this Maidan - the child is well alive, they say))) people are being fooled to the fullest
  42. wow
    0
    18 December 2013 20: 02
    Yes, Mr. McCain's Vietnamese comrades didn't hold him back in a barrel of shit, but they did. Mr. McCain is “immature.” To hell with them and not Novorossiya with Crimea to boot!!!
  43. 0
    18 December 2013 22: 35
    Everyone quickly fell in love with Klitschko!
    (PZ order)
  44. 0
    19 December 2013 11: 52
    Quote: Axel
    The party of fish brought homeless people from downbass, there are simply no words, see Downeysky electorate
    Well, Nuland brought some buns
  45. 0
    19 December 2013 12: 16
    Quote: godun
    Recently I talked with one lad from Ukraine and, in my opinion, he expressed himself quite logically: "why should we go to Russia, if you have the same as ours, also thieves in power and at the feeders, who absolutely do not care about their own people. If in Russia the authorities did for the people and were for the people, why then, we need that Europe, and so from one shit to another. And we climb into Europe with hope, and suddenly it becomes better ... "
    It’s logical, but there will be worse thieves there, they’ll rob you and they won’t forget to steal it.
  46. 0
    19 December 2013 21: 59
    I’m telling you))) the Western opposition - you will move the Maidan to us for a couple of days)) last night it’s down to minus 35 + North 15 m/s)) whoever deserves it until the morning gets a warm bus + hot tea + Belyashikov I answer!!! although)) rather a bunch of dump trucks will be needed + Kirovets
  47. 3935333
    0
    20 December 2013 10: 01
    I upvoted the article. my opinion: the economic fate of not only Ukraine, but also Russia is now being decided in Kyiv! We must not lose our historical cradle, our history, our roots, we must not slide into medieval civil strife! our future is being decided there in Kyiv! Let's screw up Ukraine, then there will be war!
  48. 0
    20 December 2013 20: 19
    In general, all this “gay integration” of Yanukovych reeks of KGB)))
    it seems that he deliberately carried out this gambit in order to rewrite all their gay integrators and take them into account
    after all, there was something in the media earlier about a decree regarding Klitschko’s possible presidency, like don’t pay taxes, go where you pay))))
  49. CARasev
    0
    21 December 2013 01: 50
    As they were fucking, they will be, (the Russians are sorry (East and Crimea)), they will still crawl that Tymoshenko, Yanukovych, Kuchma, but at least someone, and Klitschko will also be on Karika, ask for "give gas to the gas"
  50. CARasev
    0
    21 December 2013 01: 52
    I AM A SIBERIAN, LET THE UKRAINIANS STOKE THE EURO WITH WOOD, THERE IS ENOUGH LARD IN SIBERIA, YOU ARE LIKE A YOKE TO US
  51. CARasev
    0
    21 December 2013 01: 57
    I WOULDN'T GIVE NEITHER LOANS OR GAS, LET MCCAIN AND KLICHKO BUY AND STOKE
  52. 0
    21 December 2013 06: 05
    But why compare Russia, the Russian Empire with Yugoslavia?
    Yugoslavia never existed before 1918.
    There were different countries, peoples who diverged culturally almost 1000 years ago (well, probably about 900 years to be more precise).
    Peoples who almost fought with each other very cruelly.

    In short, Yugoslavia is the same ugly brainchild (well, not of Versailles, but probably of Trianon) of the Treaty that Poland was before WWII.
    Those. gathered by the desire of a handful of Serbian nationalists and the will of the victors who wanted to destroy Austria-Hungary, a set of lands and peoples.
    It is clear that at the first blow from the outside, the country crumbled like a house of cards.

    But the Republic of Ingushetia was created over centuries, and its creators included both Great Russians and many Little Russians and Belarusians.
    Those. education was still much more natural.
    That’s why we can’t lose Ukraine - because it’s a natural part (and climatically the best) of natural education - RI
  53. 0
    21 December 2013 14: 02
    Work is necessary, not a rally. Stalin.
  54. Statsko
    0
    21 December 2013 14: 55
    Ukraine is unlucky with its presidents. Yanukovych promised mountains of gold: to make the Russian a second state and to open the borders to Transnistria and to be friends with Russia, but he himself, like that cunning godfather of one woman, wants to trade in 2 bazaars. So he managed to reach the Maidan and the bacchanalia of the maydauns.
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  56. MASJSi
    0
    23 December 2013 12: 03
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    ps...I liked it - topwar.ru, see you
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    0
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  58. Reginaler
    0
    23 December 2013 21: 49
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  59. 0
    26 March 2014 12: 04
    And they answered for Sevastopol))))))