Russia to receive 800 modernized T-62s – an act of desperation or a serious combat unit

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Russia to receive 800 modernized T-62s – an act of desperation or a serious combat unit

The 103rd armored plant was instructed to supply the RF Armed Forces with 800 modernized tanks within 3 years. Such rates imply the delivery of about 22 vehicles per month. In this regard, the question arises - what should we expect from these machines? Is such a move rational, or is it an act of desperation? Let's try to understand these and other issues. First, some dry characteristics, and then some analytics.

Design features and booking


One of the main design features of the T-62 tank in comparison with later models is the absence of any automatic loader. This function is performed by a person, which implies the presence of a loader in the crew. In my opinion, this is an absolute plus in terms of a combination of factors, the first of which is an increase in the reliability of vehicles (the exclusion of a breakdown of the automatic loader). As the experience of Syria shows, no matter how inhumane it may sound, it is often easier to replace a retired loader than to repair complex automation.



The booking scheme is shown in the photo below. It is a homogeneous armor (NLD and VLD) with a thickness of about 100 mm, located at the corners, providing 200 mm of reduced armor when fired from the front.


Of course, modernization implies strengthening the reservation by installing:

- additional spaced screens made of modern armored steel with high hardness;

- elements of dynamic protection;

- protective grilles.


One of the possible options for rebooking the T-62

What to compare with?


Most of the materials devoted to the analysis of the potential capabilities of the T-62 in the current conditions consider this vehicle mainly from the position of a tank. A large number of critical conclusions are based on this, they say, the machine is hopelessly outdated, and no modernization is able to change this. In general, the supply of such equipment to the troops borders on shame.

However, I still allow myself a different approach - the technique cannot be considered in isolation from the tactics of its application. And, of course, it is impossible to provide an adequate level of protection for equipment of the 60s against anti-tank weapons of the XNUMXst century with modernization.

But after all, no one says that the tactics of using the T-62 will be identical to the use of modern models.

Yes, of course, at the beginning of the special operation, we made a number of serious mistakes and stupidly lost a large amount of equipment, but you still need to understand that there is still a huge number of more modern tanks, both in service and in reserve.

The production facilities at which the production and modernization of this equipment are set up are fully loaded, so, for example, Uralvagonzavod continues to supply troops with new tanks, including the T-90M "Breakthrough".

Taking into account the above, I think it is quite appropriate to assume that the T-62 will be used in a slightly different way than the main battle tanks, and in this sense it is appropriate to compare them with the most modern version of the BMP, which is in service with the Russian army - the BMP-3. That is, as a fire means of strengthening motorized riflemen.

In this capacity, the machine no longer looks like an obsolete technique, but like a very formidable combat unit.

Armor BMP-3 spaced, and is a combination of 60 mm aluminum and about 20 mm steel. While even in the base armor T-62, as mentioned earlier - 100 mm steel. The ongoing upgrade will increase the level of protection even higher.

The situation is similar with weapons.

BMP-3:
projectile weight - 15 kg,
explosive mass - 1,7 kg,
initial speed - 250 m / s,
ammunition - 34.

T-62:
projectile weight - 18 kg,
explosive mass - 3,1 kg,
initial speed - 800 m / s,
ammunition - 42.

Attention is drawn to the presence of twice the explosive charge inside the projectile, which contributes to both a multiple increase in high-explosive action and fragmentation, by giving these same fragments more kinetic energy.

The initial speed is three times higher, which makes the trajectory more flat, reduces the flight time of the projectile, which means it increases the accuracy of firing. In addition, the ammunition load of the T-62 also, it turns out, is larger.

There is a fundamental difference when shooting at armored targets. The fact is that shots for infantry fighting vehicles are low-pulse, i.e., the “knock-out” powder charge in them is insignificant, which is the reason for the low initial speed. The T-62 has a full charge, which means that, along with high-explosive fragmentation, it becomes possible to use classic sub-caliber "crowbars", which in the case of the T-62 have armor penetration of 300–400 mm. The numbers are more than modest for modern tank guns, but in practice they mean a huge difference between the inability to penetrate a tank in principle (in the case of an infantry fighting vehicle) and the ability to penetrate into vulnerable places, for example, into the side, in the case of the T-62.

Fire support infantry in defense


I propose to carefully look at the distinctive features of the T-62 tank in the above photo. Personally, my attention was attracted by a lifting mast with an observation device.

Equipping a tank with such a tool most likely means working on the defensive from closed positions. In this case, the silhouette of the tank is hidden, but observation is difficult. The presence of a lifting mast solves this problem. The tank hides in the trench, completely, raises the mast and conducts observation. Having found the enemy, he goes to the firing position and fires a shot, and hides again.


The illustration above is nothing new, standard motorized infantry defense tactics. Only in the case of the T-62, the place of the BMP is taken by a significantly protected vehicle with a more powerful gun.

Hitting the T-62 in such a position will be an extremely difficult task. Yes, there are “roof-piercing” ammunition and missiles that have an option to attack a target behind cover, but the firing range of such complexes using the NLAW example is 800 meters. While the range of aimed fire with a high-explosive fragmentation projectile is 6 meters. I note that this is almost 000 times higher than the same indicator for the BMP-3, and since there are many open spaces in Ukraine, this parameter is very important.

In the case of the Javelin, the task is simplified, although the cannon still shoots 2-3 times farther than the Javelin hits. However, in his case, it takes time to capture the target. The tactic in which the tank appears in position, fires 1-2 shots and retreats to cover, excludes its defeat by the Javelin.

Comparison with other infantry fighting vehicles


It is impossible not to mention another very important aspect. Russia has a disproportionate number of tanks against the background of a lack of modern infantry fighting vehicles. To put it simply, there are a lot of tanks with a 125 mm cannon, but there are disproportionately few BMPs with a Bakhcha (this particular combat module is armed with a 100 mm cannon).

This difference will become even more significant in a situation where partial mobilization has been announced in Russia, which means that the number of infantry will increase, which will be in dire need of fire support vehicles. You need to understand that the BMP with the Bakhcha combat module is simply not enough for everyone, and the difference between the BMP / BTR with a 30-mm cannon and the T-62 is simply huge.

Under the circumstances, it seems a much more logical step to transfer these tanks to motorized riflemen as "exotic" BMPs (let's not deceive anyone, in Ukraine both ours and Ukrainians still ride on top of the armor), which enhance the firepower of the unit.

About new ways of warfare


It is quite natural that our "well-wishers" hastened to give out their expert opinion on outdated equipment.

This video is an example.


Indeed, one may get the impression that the arguments in favor of the T-62 are just an attempt to pull an owl on the globe, wishful thinking. However, many military experts and armor enthusiasts in Russia have long proposed using old tanks in one way or another for the so-called mobilization reserve.

As an example, I will quote from my old article “AU-220M "Baikal" (57 mm): prospects for practical use in future wars":

In Russia, in 2016, there were about 2 T-500 tanks armed with a 55-mm cannon (against modern calibers of 100–120 mm) in storage. Serial production of cars ended in 125. It is no longer possible to bring this tank to a level comparable to modern models (in terms of armament and armor) through adequate costs (which, however, does not prevent the Syrians from continuing to fight on them). However, its parameters are excellent for a machine operating from the second line. Replace the cannon with a 1979 mm gun with controlled detonation, hang some remote sensing and screens, put a "birdhouse" with a 57 machine gun on top - and you get an excellent tank support chariot.

Alas, but as a demonstration of what I wrote about, I have to use the video of the APU.


Do Ukrainian experts question the age of the gun in this case? I don't think. Although the S-60 is a development of the 40s, and not the 60s, like the T-62 (this is if you do not take into account that the Ukrainian expert said that the T-62s were produced in the 50s, although they were produced in the 60s -x and 70s). Why? Yes, simply because this direct-fire gun is capable of tearing to shreds any medium-armored vehicles, both Soviet and NATO, including the most modern models. But in addition to this, she is able to work on enemy positions along a hinged trajectory - pay attention to the frames after the 50th second of the video.


Positions on which the S-60 fires direct fire

Thus, given weapons you can well nightmare enemy infantry in shelters.

Therefore, the Ukrainians did everything right, taking these guns from storage. Another question is that in the presented version they have a number of disadvantages:

1) are not self-propelled, which means they are low-mobile. Although it is worth noting that they are brought to the stowed position much faster than the same artillery. This disadvantage is solved by the Ukrainians simply - by installing trucks on the chassis;

2) not armored - very vulnerable to shrapnel. Truck chassis also do not save from fragments;

3) the chassis is still designed to work as an anti-aircraft gun, i.e. the barrel looks steeply upwards, and 70% or more of the recoil momentum goes into the ground. When working at shallow angles when shooting, there is too strong a recoil, which shakes the truck (if the gun is installed on it) and sharply reduces the accuracy of fire.

Thus, the installation of this gun on the chassis of an old, but tank, solves all of the above problems.

We get a vehicle that is better armored than any BMP, which destroys any equipment on the battlefield with direct fire, except for tanks, and can also nightmare infantry positions along a hinged trajectory. At the same time, it has a frantic rate of fire: 120 rounds per minute versus 12 for the Bakhchi.

Moreover, I note that all of the above is true for standard ammunition. If these ammunition were developed (new feathered cores with a large elongation factor, new high-explosive shells for firing like a mortar, with a smaller charge, but with an increased projectile-mine, fuses with controlled detonation over enemy infantry positions when undermining over trenches), the effectiveness of the gun would increase many times over.

But, alas, the concept was not destined to be embodied in metal.

But, speaking of the T-62 with a classic 115-mm gun, you can take a fresh look at the photo below.


It features a new US light tank, with a 105 mm cannon.

That is, having begun to modernize the T-62, our military-industrial complex, apparently without planning it themselves, conceptually took the path of the most advanced militarily country - the United States.

The US military plans to purchase 504 Griffin-2 units by 2035. At the same time, tanks formed into companies will be given to infantry brigades of the US Army and the National Guard.

In other words, the concept is the same - light tanks are transferred to reinforce infantry units.

Conclusions


In short, there would be no happiness, but misfortune helped, and our military-industrial complex finally began to move in the right direction. The only depressing thing is that this was not done a few years earlier in a calm environment.

As for obsolete equipment, what is happening in Ukraine has shown that not very high-tech types of weapons (civilian drones for video filming, Geranium-2, S-60 installation, etc.). In view of the foregoing, we can conclude that, with proper use, the T-62 tanks can become not just an ersatz solution, but a truly new combat vehicle in the entire concept of the use of motorized rifles by the Russian army.

It is also necessary to understand that other countries are quite successfully (and correctly) modernizing even older tanks. The photo below shows the modernization of the T-55 (Romanian and Slovenian).


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  1. 0
    19 October 2022 16: 39
    The T-62 is a good tank, although old of course. But they decided to modernize them for a reason. There are several features. Firstly, there is no carousel, this is a huge plus, since there is less risk of the tank’s head being “torn off”, due to partially combustible cartridges in tanks with a loading mechanism, if shrapnel hits, etc. it is very easy to blow up the entire ammunition load. The T-62 has a steel casing and is not so easily damaged. Of course this is a plus for chewiness. The second feature is the cannon. Yes, the caliber is rather weak, basically the same as the Leopard 1, but there is a “Kastet” projectile, essentially a rocket, with an armor penetration of 600 mm behind dynamic protection. Accordingly, you can try to penetrate the Kharkov T-64, and even more so the Leopard 1, head-on. If you install the “Battlefield” and tanks, and conjure with the protection, you will get a not bad light tank. Moreover, now instead they are using infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers, which generally have weak armor.
  2. +1
    19 October 2022 17: 04
    Well, I think the troops will soon have modernized BA-Is, with a machine gunner-commander and driver on staff.
  3. 0
    19 October 2022 17: 26
    According to statistics from the USSR Ministry of Defense, as of January 1, 1990, there were 63 tanks, 900 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers of various types and modifications in service. Most of this park was in long-term storage bases, in a state of conservation. IN A CONDITION OF CONSERVATION!
    1. 0
      19 October 2022 18: 22
      Probably 20 thousand remain to this day, after the collapse of the USSR, but even those in what form...
  4. 0
    19 October 2022 18: 53
    This is a blow... Otherwise, all of them have no analogues in the world. Why the hell will they be needed in 3 years, unless of course there are plans to conduct military operations for at least another 3 years... What about exploitation and unification then?
    Here many have gone to the good-bad T-62 fork, but 800 units will appear not tomorrow at the front, but in 3 years... Of course, you can be happy for the plant - people will earn money. Then it will be mothballed for another twenty years... Or are there plans in Ukraine, like in Syria, to wage a war for over 10 years?
    Also make an armored personnel carrier from it, well, that’s an idea, but if there’s no fish, there’s only fish.
    Use it as an assault self-propelled gun in cities - so modern MBTs are knocked out there.
    Put in the field as a mobile firing point against Ukrainian tanks and infantry fighting vehicles - and according to Konashenkov’s reports, they have accumulated more than 6000 pieces - no more...
    Only for some future war...
  5. 0
    19 October 2022 19: 18
    Quote: gromovanton
    Also make an armored personnel carrier from it, well, that’s an idea, but if there’s no fish, there’s only fish.

    For me, this is an excellent solution, especially since it has been tested in practice.
    https://topwar.ru/166732-ahzarit-izrailskij-btr-iz-sovetskih-tankov.html
  6. 0
    19 October 2022 20: 29
    Quote from Silver99
    No matter how beautifully the author describes the role of the loader, the future belongs to robotic equipment, and if you need to plug the gaps at the front with a number of tanks, then the T-34 will do (((((The question is where is the equipment that goes beautifully in parades?

    Are you going to kill the ukrofashists in the future?
  7. 0
    20 October 2022 02: 25
    The modified T-55s are equipped with a British 105m cannon.
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  10. -1
    20 October 2022 14: 09
    SVO in Ukraine is the best way to relieve military arsenals in Russia. The maintenance and disposal of T-62 tanks require considerable costs. And here, as they say, everything is in one glass, both recycling and combat use. And who says that the T-62 is planned for use in clashes in field battles? The T-62 is planned for use as an armored mobile, self-propelled gun for the protection of strongholds and populated areas. The costs of putting the T-62 into use from a state of conservation are minimal. Count your money, dear ones. Now more replenishment from the reserve will arrive. They also need military equipment. And our factories have made and will continue to make hundreds of new, more modern tanks. Each soldier has a battle tank. (This is for those who are okay with humor). That’s why Bandera’s supporters started fussing. Russia has a huge reserve of T-62s. Bandera simply does not have enough shells for all the tanks. It is one thing to fight against infantry, another thing to fight against tanks. There is a difference, however.
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  13. 0
    22 October 2022 21: 34
    Quote: A vile skeptic
    Rigonda-Symphony (Symphony, Riga)
    VEGA-2 (Spring-2, Zaporozhye)
    Astrad Orion and Micro (MICRO, Zelenograd and Minsk)
    Cosmos, Yura and Globus (Cosmos, Sarapul)
    SURPRIS (Surprise, Grozny)
    Vega, F3TR9, Astrad (Riga-302, Riga)
    Signal, Astrad Сygnus (Signal, Kamensk-Uralsky)
    VEGA JADE and COMIX-403 (Sokol-403, Moscow)
    VEGA Sapphire MK 2 (Russia-303, Chelyabinsk)
    SELENA (Ocean, Minsk)
    VEF-206 (I think there is no need to explain here)
    ZIRCON 6TR10, SOLAR, MEREDIAN (Meridian, Kyiv)
    Leningrad-004 (Leningrad-002, Leningrad)
    EuroMatic-001 and Salute-001 (Salyut-001, Riga)
    and so on



    For the answer - Thank you!
    Some of them I haven't even heard of. But did they really come in “tens of thousands”?
    This can be called nitpicking, but Gründig is from there - yes. Few. Very expensive. And there's so much about it...
    Maybe I’m just out of touch or out of age.
  14. 0
    24 October 2022 11: 02
    Quote: Alexander Vorontsov
    Quote: goose
    First, let's start with the author, why does he give such strange data on shots to the 2A70 gun only for the old ZUOF-17 ersatz shells? ZUOF -19x is 350 m / s and twice the radius of destruction, and this projectile is no worse than the OFS for the T-62M.

    For a combination of reasons.
    1) Still, it was about the fact that the BMP cannon is not capable of kinetically hitting armored vehicles. A land mine hit can damage a tank or disable less armored vehicles, but for this you need to hit the target. And if the target is moving, and if the enemy is approaching the positions, then he is moving, you need to hit the moving enemy, and not the stationary target. And here the difference is huge, between the BMP cannon and the tank's sub-caliber projectile.

    Subcaliber speed 1700 m/s. Compared with this, that 250, that 350 ... let's say equipment entered the affected area. BMP shoots, how long will the projectile fly? Even if we consider the average as 330 ms for convenience (although in reality it will be less), it will fly 9 seconds. The sub-caliber will fly for 2 seconds with a little. Plus, they can start working not at the turn of 3000 meters, but at the turn of 4 meters.
    Those. by the time the infantry fighting vehicle can start firing at the enemy, the tank will already be able to fire 10 shots.

    2) These shells appeared in the press along with plans for proximity (guided) fuses for them back in 2015. But for the entire period of the special operation, we did not see a single case of the use of controlled detonation over the positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. I also did not find them in the TechMash catalog. There is also the question of the prevalence of ammunition, it is clear that there are much more old ones.

    An 82mm or 120mm mortar on a truck is better.

    Better. But the question of universality - a mortar cannot destroy an infantry fighting vehicle with direct fire. The "mortar" function is just a "bonus" in this case.

    On the BMP-3, and on any other vehicle with moderate ballistics, hitting moving vehicles at a distance of more than 1 km is a problem even with a serious SLA, which is not there, which is why I did not offer to discuss this possibility. Moreover, there is no cumulative or armor-piercing projectile in the ammo. Muzzle velocity of 300-350 m/s is the maximum muzzle velocity that allows you to maintain the maximum effect of fragmentation projectiles. If you further increase the initial speed, then the wall thickness of the projectile, its cost, and the fragmentation field geometrically decrease, with the same explosive charge. But if the fragmentation field covers the tank from a distance of up to 100 m, it will sweep away all the optics and small things on the tower, it also moves something with a high-explosive effect, if the hatches are open, it will muffle the crew a little, as a result, the tank may not be able to continue being a tank until it is quite expensive repair.
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