“I would have demoted Lapin to a private”: Kadyrov criticized the commander of the Krasnoliman direction

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“I would have demoted Lapin to a private”: Kadyrov criticized the commander of the Krasnoliman direction

The head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, is notable for his straightforwardness in assessing the course of the special operation of the RF Armed Forces in Ukraine. The first critical remarks date back to the time of the withdrawal of Russian troops from the Kyiv and Chernigov directions, when he insisted on taking the independent capital.

As Kadyrov himself admits, he does not have a full understanding of the plans of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces. At the same time, he receives information about the state of affairs at the front from the commanders of units sent to the NVO zone from Chechnya, which gives him the opportunity to reasonably criticize the generals leading the special operation.



According to Kadyrov, the commander of the Central Military District, Colonel-General Alexander Lapin, who had previously been awarded the star of the Hero of Russia for the liberation of Lisichansk, was responsible for the defense of the Krasnolimansky sector:

De facto, he was not there and was not around.


Near Krasny Liman, Lapin entrusted the defense to mobilized soldiers from the LPR and other units [mainly fighters from the LARs], but he did not take care of supplying this group with communications equipment, ammunition, and interaction was not properly organized.

The fact that our fighters can become an easy target was personally reported to me by Major General Apty Alaudinov, commander of the Akhmat special forces.

Kadyrov says.



In this regard, he turned to the head of the General Staff, Valery Gerasimov, but he assured him that Lapin had a military talent and would not allow a retreat. A week later, Lapin moves his headquarters hundreds of kilometers from the front to Starobelsk, while he himself stays in Lugansk.

How can you quickly manage units, being 150 km away from them?

- asks Kadyrov.

According to him, the negligence committed in the supply and command of the troops caused the loss of territories around Krasny Liman and the city itself.

If I had my way, I would demote Lapin to a private, deprive him of his awards and, with a machine gun in his hands, send him to the front lines to wash away my shame with blood.


Dissatisfied with Kadyrov and "games" in a military operation. As he believes, it is necessary to use every opportunity to destroy enemy forces. For example, after the withdrawal of the RF Armed Forces from Izyum, a large grouping of enemy troops was concentrated there. Kadyrov insisted on inflicting an artillery strike on her, but he was not listened to. In his words, the enemy must be fought in any way possible, even with a low-power nuclear weapons.

Yesterday there was a parade in Izyum, today a flag in Liman, and what tomorrow? Everything would be fine if it weren't so bad

sums up the head of Chechnya.
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  1. -6
    1 October 2022 20: 09
    Quote: donavi49
    and with the lowering of the refrigerator comes a revolution.

    15 years ago, we imported 1,2 million! tons of poultry. And now there is already a surplus of 5-7% (300 thousand tons). Let's not even talk about grain. So it’s unlikely that empty refrigerators will shine on us. This is a fact.
  2. +19
    1 October 2022 20: 10
    NWO is a war between politicians and oligarchs! The military doesn't decide anything! The king decides everything! What to bomb, where to shoot, when to retreat and where to run! Everything we spout here interests no one, they have their own desires. Why are you silent, everyone was rattling that after 30.09,22/XNUMX/XNUMX everything will change, the SVO will enter a new status, etc., etc. And what??????? Everything is the same, and Liman has been surrendered! No troops, no aviation, no artillery, the bridges are intact, Kyiv sings and dances, the Guarantor is calm! Everything is going well!!! No conclusions, no desire to fix anything!!! Capitalist swamp and betrayal!!!
    1. RGB
      +6
      1 October 2022 21: 39
      Everything was written correctly! The entire Northern Military District is geared towards the redistribution of capital, and denazification and other crap for the masses...
      1. 0
        1 October 2022 22: 05
        Whose capital is being redistributed and to whom?
  3. +10
    1 October 2022 20: 13
    As one of the TG channels wrote.
    “Russia still has only two allies, but now they are Kadyrov and Prigozhin”

    From personal correspondence.
  4. -1
    1 October 2022 20: 14
    Kadyrov to the Commander-in-Chief.... there are no options...... everyone will think so for 2 - 3 weeks
  5. +3
    1 October 2022 20: 15
    To be honest, until recently I thought that they would take out the “peaceful” with our boys and lay out a “Persian carpet”. I didn’t see any other explanation for this chaos.
  6. +8
    1 October 2022 20: 16
    It is not Lapin, not Kadyrov who make the weather. Western capitalism and Russian capitalism are united by one umbilical cord. There is a feeling that the goal at the top is to wait for peace negotiations and agreements. When talking about a multipolar world, about a bad West, they are not going to lead us out of a unipolar one.
  7. +1
    1 October 2022 20: 17
    I also see that the Ukrainians are happy about the squabble that has begun and against this background they want to intensify the offensive. Personally, for me, let there be a couple of weeks of anarchy, but with the hope of normal command. With the current traitors and ass-lickers (not all of them, of course, but a good half), we are unlikely to win. And the fly in the ointment for Ukrainians is that if Kadyrov or someone like that is put at the helm, they will have to urgently pack their bags. And no threats from NATO will help here
  8. +11
    1 October 2022 20: 17
    Under Stalin, everyone who ran away like that would have been put up against the wall for this. From generals to privates. Soon at this rate we will supply the Armed Forces of Ukraine with more equipment than Western partners supply under the current Lend-Lease, and what will we ourselves fight with? We need to cheer up, and urgently draw the right conclusions. I agree 100%.
  9. +1
    1 October 2022 20: 21
    He is not a stupid person, he simply (yet) cannot afford to publicly criticize the Supreme Commander, fine, while understanding that the fish rots from the head... A couple more of these “regroupings” and they will begin to remove from the offices not generals, but people of higher ranks. Hello 1917? - this is when a military coup happened, which the Bolsheviks and monarchists found convenient to call “renunciation,” and then the October Revolution, which the same Bolsheviks called the “Great October Socialist Revolution.” It's October 2022...
    1. 0
      2 October 2022 07: 50
      The Bolsheviks had nothing to do with February. These are the Cadets, the Octobrists and the Headquarters. October - yes, the Bolsheviks and the General Staff.
  10. -6
    1 October 2022 20: 27
    Let me remind you of one story. After the defeat at Cannae, Rome accepted its defeated troops without uttering a word of reproach. In times of trouble we must be together. Conclusions, of course, need to be drawn, including personnel ones. But you can't look for scapegoats. Everyone bears their share of the blame. Victory will be common, and defeat will be common.
    1. +3
      1 October 2022 21: 35
      At Cannae, Rome was at war with a military genius. Name the military geniuses among the Sumerians and NATO. Exclusively our stupid mistakes and incompetence. Were Japanese military leaders geniuses? But Kuropatkin managed to waste the battle they won in Mukden. What about Menshikov and Gorchakov in the Crimean War? And the brilliant Rennenkampf in the First World War?
  11. +14
    1 October 2022 20: 29
    It has accumulated. Now without Illusions! Personally, as a citizen of the Russian Federation, as a reserve worker, I am horrified by:
    1. How the mobilization was legislatively and documented. As the presidential decree was formulated in such general and non-specific formulations and given to the military registration and enlistment office and governors, others called for freedom of lawlessness, that the VVP had to appear on air the day before yesterday and apologize, third order. And this is for Peskov and the presidential administration/government. Mess! Apart from the theorists and relatives, among the lawyers who drafted the decree, you didn’t find a single average person who would organize the criteria for conscription in the text and close the questions about who, how and with what specific criteria to conscript.
    In fact, it's a mess. Lawlessness on the ground. The decree is interpreted broadly, and from the screen, without obliging the executor to anything, the guarantor verbally repeats the criteria.
    Moreover, from the 21st, Putin verbally said that only those who meet all 3 criteria he voiced would be mobilized: combat experience, suitable fitness and health. In fact, it’s a mess again on the 10th day of mobilization, they’re trying to reach out to anyone.
    It is not surprising why people fled abroad and those who were being driven to military registration and enlistment offices began to hide. The population is being terrorized and there are menacing shouts from above with no results.
    2. How wives, friends, fathers, mothers, sisters and brothers of those mobilized and mobilized now, knowing about the estuary, about the Kharkov flight, should not panic and wait in peace for the departed relative, if the parquet generals fight over and over again a lot of defensive battles, ceding territory to the enemy ? Military equipment and weapons are thrown.
    Mobilized under the command of such military leaders, covered at the very top, of course, they are now in terrible danger and in the role of, if not cannon fodder, then certainly not confident in themselves, commanders and the army.
    Hell yes! To be honest, now I probably won’t be able to condemn the conscripts who fled from the chaos, as well as those who, against the backdrop of this, will probably deliberately choose criminal liability for draft evasion, instead of obediently slaughtering on the altar of the personal selfish gain of this or that military prisoner who failed Over the years of practice and months, organize satisfactory communications, reconnaissance, supply, rotation and reinforcement of troops in departments. Damn the peacetime commanders of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, who to this day sit on chairs in rank, and will report to the top blatant misinformation, embellishing the difficult situation of units and groupings of troops on specific lines of defense.
    3. I understand Kadyrov and other politicians who, rooting for Russia and the army, see time after time that this army is controlled by sheep and devices, from the very top to the commanding bottom. There was peace and thousands of military men were quietly under contract, but from the beginning they broke their contracts and left mobilization, and generals in rank operate with forces and means that an outside casual observer knows better than the commander of the Diman direction of defense!
    4. I think with pain how to look into the eyes of the wives, sisters and mothers of the mobilized, who will soon fall under the siege of such sheep.
    1. +4
      1 October 2022 21: 50
      Everything is said correctly. Do not subtract or add.
    2. +2
      2 October 2022 06: 22
      That's right, that's how it is. Most normal, adequate people will agree with you.
  12. +13
    1 October 2022 20: 29
    Our army does not know how to fight, this is a sad fact. 7 months of marking time, and then retreat is a masterpiece
    1. -2
      1 October 2022 21: 36
      Our army knows how to fight. There is no one to command.
    2. +2
      1 October 2022 22: 11
      Another question is how successfully one can fight with limited forces/means. There are only holes
  13. +2
    1 October 2022 20: 31
    GRAY ZONE
    p.s: I’ll add my two cents of absolutely fictitious stories, which, of course, never happened, they will be about a couple of brilliant generals, the first, for example, will be Dvor *., who, being the commander of one of the military districts, and also the commander at the Mariupol theater military operations, in a situation where several dozen of our fighters were cut off by the enemy on the outskirts of Mariupol, they asked for help for several days from anyone they could, and already somewhere on the third day, having reached our mentioned character from one of the ringing parties, they heard the phrase: - “This is my personal staff. And I will command him as I want."
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  15. +1
    1 October 2022 20: 34
    GRAY ZONE
    Another lieutenant general, let's call him Zu*., who was responsible for the direction of Balakleya, but as they say, at Zu*. There is brother - colonel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the 101st brigade, an elite unit of the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces , by coincidence, this brother also fought in the direction of Balakleya, which we have now abandoned, but all these stories, of course, are fictitious and the coincidences with the real ones are accidental.
    1. +2
      1 October 2022 21: 01
      Quote: Vadim Voroshilov
      GRAY ZONE
      Another lieutenant general, let's call him Zu*., who was responsible for the direction of Balakleya, but as they say, at Zu*. There is brother - colonel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine from the 101st brigade, an elite unit of the General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces , by coincidence, this brother also fought in the direction of Balakleya, which we have now abandoned, but all these stories, of course, are fictitious and the coincidences with the real ones are accidental.

      Now it’s time to finish driving the waves with General Zu. Here the investigation should dispel all speculation. It was or wasn't.
  16. -4
    1 October 2022 20: 37
    Quote from: neworange88
    Quote: dmi.pris
    Yes. Therefore, often there are so few smart solutions


    Defeat can be in a battle, and when they run away over and over again, and over and over again large batches of serviceable equipment fall into the hands of the enemy, which they not only did not even try to withdraw with battles, but did not even bother to destroy, questions arise. Under Stalin, everyone who ran away like that would have been put up against the wall. From generals to privates. Soon, at such a pace, we will supply more equipment to the Armed Forces of Ukraine than our Western partners supply under the current Lend-Lease, but what are we going to fight with? We need to cheer up, and urgently draw the right conclusions, otherwise they will soon run away from Belgorod if nothing is changed.

    If Stalin had shot all the ranks, parts of which were scuttled in 41 and 42. then he would have no generals left. There is no need to compose and distribute these fables. Even after the retreat, he looked after many of them like children. You're just a story, perhaps. you don't know well. There is a book of memoirs by ADD commander Golovanov, read it, it’s very interesting!
  17. +3
    1 October 2022 20: 41
    , General Mikhail Stepanovich Zu... .
    In this database I found his relatives. Brother Mykola Stepanovich Zu..., 06.04.76/0139/101. Registered at the address: Kyiv, AXNUMX. This is the number of the elite XNUMXst security brigade of the General Staff of Ukraine. Now Mykola is a colonel in the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
    In Ukraine, Mikhail has up to 12 brothers and sisters who were born with him in the Volyn village of Vetly . According to the databases (one (https://t.me/infobomb/1868) or two (https://t.me/infobomb/1872)) from the Infobomb you can see Stepan (29.03.79/07.12.77/17.01.70), Svetlana (18.05.68/XNUMX/XNUMX), Lydia (XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX), twins Galina and Valentina (XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX). The Volhynians consider the local police chief to be the nephew of General Zu.
    It is treason to send an officer against a country where all his relatives are hostages. But HE was instructed Zu.... 58 army. At the beginning of the war he commanded shitty. After which there was a rumor about an arrest for terrible command. Military correspondent Kitten checked. And called Michael "Judas", that he burned his columns not out of stupidity, but on purpose. But the State Top of the DPR denied the lie: “Lieutenant General Zu is in the ranks.”
    It was then that Mikhail was thrown near Kharkov. And there was a breakthrough of the front, a retreat. None of the generals went to prison for this. Maybe it was worth drinking Zu--- and the others, even if there was no espionage? Execution of the old - lift of the young. https://t.me/infobomb/1874
  18. +3
    1 October 2022 20: 47
    Our favorite questions are who is to blame and what to do. Who is guilty ? Everything, starting with the supreme. He may be more to blame than everyone else. What to do? Draw conclusions. Learn to make the right decisions and not be afraid to take responsibility. Parquet generals and officers must leave. those who don't pull through - too. We need to introduce a system of punishments. SMERSH, or lictors, as in the Roman army. And finally stop lying. Lies are the most destructive
  19. 0
    1 October 2022 20: 48
    It would be nice to understand the causes and consequences without emotions. It would be nice to explain to people why it works and why it doesn’t work. Blaming all the blame on the head of the General Staff and the commander performing the role of a firefighter is not very objective. There are many commanders below them in rank and there is a political leadership with its directives. Strategic mistakes cannot be corrected by tactical decisions.
    It is important to objectively know:
    Did all our people leave the Liman, who stayed and why. What measures were taken to ensure the safe and timely withdrawal of troops. Retreat in itself is only a maneuver and is neither good nor bad. If during such a retreat a fair number of them were destroyed and our lives were saved, then even orders should be distributed.
    One thing is not yet clear why or why they were unable to transfer the necessary reserves during such a time..
    Perhaps there is some kind of cunning plan...
    1. -2
      2 October 2022 18: 29
      There is no one to transfer. The whole idea.
  20. +10
    1 October 2022 20: 54
    Moreover, inside the country there is no feeling that the Fatherland is in danger. What they show on TV is the same thing that is incomprehensible to the mind, sheer vulgar entertainment and American films to follow. And the master of sports told us every day how many were shot down and how many were damaged. He announced air supremacy and the suppression of air defense. So what? Where are our “Zhukovs and Rokossovskys”. They removed the rear general who had held this position since 2008. They transferred him to another job, probably to retire. And he should have been tried for such logistical support for the army. And all this happens in the conditions of the Northern Military District and mobilization, when the very existence of the country is at stake, because the President himself speaks about this. But unfortunately we are not told about something else, or we are afraid to tell the truth - what will happen next? Will we win and will everything remain the same? How does our oligarchy differ from the Ukrainian one?
    How can we inspire people now? Well, probably not because everything inside the country will remain as it is. Kadyrov is emotional, but at least he voices problems that exist and about which other officials prefer to remain silent or, worse, lie.
  21. +2
    1 October 2022 20: 54
    Maybe Mo will learn to explain his mistakes or all they can do is call on people?
    1. 0
      1 October 2022 23: 05
      The question, it seems to me, is rhetorical... Or do you need an answer?
  22. +9
    1 October 2022 20: 55
    The problem is not Lapin, but the fact that the Russian army turned out to be not at all what we expected.
  23. +4
    1 October 2022 20: 58
    Somehow it seems to me that in the next elections I will vote for Kadyrov.
    It seems that he can finally begin what others have only been promising for months...
    1. -4
      1 October 2022 21: 17
      Although I would still like to answer myself.
      In 1812, history showed that it was not the ardent southerner Bagration who was right,
      and Barclay de Tolly and Kutuzov, although their actions right up to the surrender of Moscow
      he didn’t call it anything other than treason.
      Therefore, the final assessment can be given when the company ends.
      However, I would like our leadership to change the sword already
      to the club. Like in 1812...
  24. +10
    1 October 2022 20: 58
    What situation? The situation was when our people fought there without help and the people were killed. And today our column left Liman and the Ukrainians didn’t even fire at it. Ukrainians were simply released into Liman. They even came in without reconnaissance! We took a photo, the Western media exploded with a bang. Naked agreement.
    Pluses for Zaluzhny. I don’t know what our generals got for this.
    All this is reminiscent of the first Chechen company.
    Sold War.
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  25. +7
    1 October 2022 21: 00
    I completely agree with Kadyrov. It feels like they are really run by either mediocrity or sold out people. Why did they receive orders? Konashenkov has never commanded any unit or military unit in his life, and yet he is a lieutenant general and all decorated. For what? I’m 66 years old, I’m a career officer with a higher military education, and when I see all this mess, I’m shaking all over. You, military leaders, when was the last time you opened the combat regulations and the basics of conducting operations? Gerasimov, drive everyone to hell, recruit normal officers and generals. Don't blacken your name. On your order, I am ready to go anywhere and with anyone - be it a shooter, a mechanic-driver, a signalman, or a battalion commander. Give a cry - officers, come to me! And such. like me. not one, there are many of us. And we'll go. Kadyrov, if they don’t want to take us, take us.
  26. -12
    1 October 2022 21: 01
    As always! A bunch of experts, accusers and rejoicing crapcrats and dill!
    Have any of them worked at headquarters, knows its “kitchen”, knows how decisions are prepared, knows how to multiply “one” by the tenacity and heroism of our guys, and get “ten”?
    Respecting Kadyrov as one of the brightest patriots of Russia, I believe that he, like all southerners, is overly emotional! Although I myself, in recent days, have been living on emotions. The emotion will pass, but the residue will remain.
    It is not worth, and there is no desire to, retell the statement of those who write about this from the front line and about Commander Lapin, and about the circumstances - without emotion and knowing the real situation not from the internet. If you have enough gasoline for one kilometer, you won’t even get through 2 kilometers, even if you pray to God! And you needed as much as 10 km!
    ▪️Alexander Lapin never sat in the rear. This can be confirmed by everyone who has ever encountered it. Be it Syria, be it Ukraine, where almost all the fighters of group “O” know this. This is probably the only commander of the group who has been in the battle formations of his troops since the beginning of the operation. Therefore, the statement that Lapin was holed up in Lugansk is not true.
    ▪️Of course, it is necessary to look for the culprits, but to blame everything on a commander whose area of ​​responsibility was a completely different section of the front is to make a grave mistake, from which in the end it will not be possible to draw the right conclusions.
    Fighters of the group "Brave"
  27. +3
    1 October 2022 21: 01
    The loss of Liman, unfortunately, is not a surprise to those who follow the progress of the Northern Military District. It is only one in a series of many high-profile and severe defeats of the RF Armed Forces during these 7 months of the SVO. This indicates a huge problem for the generals of the Russian army.
    In addition to its military significance, this defeat confronted the whole of Russia and its people with the most important political issue, the question of the prestige of the state: after all, just yesterday this city with its population became Russian, and the top leadership swore an oath to protect. Just looking at everything that has been done so far, it is not clear what will happen.
  28. +2
    1 October 2022 21: 01
    I remember Nicholas 2 was brought under abdication 3 years after the start...
    1. +1
      2 October 2022 08: 12
      Commander-in-Chief Colonel N.A. Romanov shamefully deserted from his post on March 2 (15), 1917. For which (among other things) he was shot on the night of July 16-17, 1918.
      Let him down! What a sheep. He had a personal security squad, himself with a weapon - the first to the groin - the second to the head of these “delegates”, the survivors - publicly hanged. No, he preferred to merge, he was afraid for his wife and children, he was a bastard. That's what I saved! This is how the betrayal of the God-anointed One happened.
  29. +3
    1 October 2022 21: 05
    There is an opinion that the wave started for a reason, Kadyrov, Prigozhin and those like them want to promote Surovikin. It seems that he is almost being considered for the National General Staff.
    1. +1
      2 October 2022 12: 03
      Quote: Chronos
      There is an opinion that the wave started for a reason, Kadyrov, Prigozhin and those like them want to promote Surovikin. It seems that he is almost being considered for the National General Staff.

      Kadyrov warned a month and a half ago that he would triple the public scandal on the subject of the SVO, with complaints to the entire senior leadership of Russia. hi
  30. -12
    1 October 2022 21: 06
    Quote from Silver99
    How tired of this hypocrisy ((((Why doesn’t the army fight according to all the rules of military science? In any war it’s day and night...
    Because this is not just any war. This is a war for people, not for territory. And if people are not ready, then there is no point in protecting them and fighting for them, they will not perceive us as defenders and liberators. And their hostility will only grow.

    It only makes sense to release and protect the pro-Russian population.
    1. +1
      1 October 2022 21: 29
      Absolutely agree. But we have no way back. If we retreat, we will lose Crimea and this is only in the best case.
    2. +1
      1 October 2022 22: 01
      What does "not just any war" mean? We need to thresh wherever we can reach. You, I hope, don’t expect the Nazis from “Azov” to put on white stockings with bows and announce that starting tomorrow they are naughty Asian high school girls? Or do you expect that the residents of Dnepropetrovsk will rush en masse into the forest as partisans, hoping for Chip and Dale at the helm of the “alligators”? And the war is not for territory, but also not for people - a war for the existence of Russia itself.

      I agree that “it makes sense to liberate and protect only the pro-Russian population,” but with the obligatory condition of throwing out to Poland/destroying (underline as appropriate) the entire anti-Russian population. This will be denazification and demilitarization “in one bottle.”
  31. +12
    1 October 2022 21: 15
    Is there any confidence that in this army mess of ours, we actually have functional nuclear weapons?
    1. -1
      2 October 2022 01: 02
      They used to say that if everything goes bad and it doesn’t take off, we’ll blow it up right at home. The earth won't hold up anyway. There are enough warheads, even if there is 50% defective.
    2. +1
      2 October 2022 08: 16
      Would you rather have the determination to apply it?
      1. 0
        2 October 2022 12: 05
        That's right, somewhere above they wrote about the “stuck button” syndrome.
  32. +1
    1 October 2022 21: 19
    It’s even surprising why in Russia almost all wars turn out the same way. To start fighting well, you must first get good trends.
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  34. +3
    1 October 2022 21: 23
    Quote from ViktorX
    Somehow it seems to me that in the next elections I will vote for Kadyrov.
    It seems that he can finally begin what others have only been promising for months...

    And what, before THIS, for 20 years you thought that you should vote for the one who wears a naval overcoat with a white scarf for the elections? I just feel sorry for you.....
    In this case, I can bet that they will come up with something else for you for the next elections.... If there are any at all.
    1. -1
      1 October 2022 22: 00
      Well, who I voted for before is my own business.
      Feeling sorry for someone is your own business.
      Of course, elections nowadays are a circus called “149%”.
      Nevertheless, I visit each of them, because... I'm almost sure that
      real results are carefully studied by the authorities - this helps determine
      "boiling point" in a particular region. I think everyone does this
      a far-sighted politician, otherwise the scarf will play the same role it played in 1801.
  35. -10
    1 October 2022 21: 24
    Quote: Igool
    Quote: Pavel73
    We must not forget Putin's statement on the very first day of the NMD: our plans do not include the occupation of Ukrainian lands.


    We remember that, and not only that. Well, bad luck, but what about denazification, one of the main conditions for the start of the operation? Are you absolutely sure that all these withdrawals of troops were previously planned? I'm afraid to disappoint you, but most of them were forced not to lose fighters.

    Denazification of Ukraine was not the main goal. It was said that we would strive for denazification. That is, we are not talking about a clearly defined goal that must be achieved at any cost, and as quickly as possible. Ukraine is not Germany. It can only be denazified with the support of anti-Nazi forces in Ukraine ITSELF. We cannot rid Ukraine of Nazism for its inhabitants themselves. They have to figure it out themselves. And they will get there, no doubt about it. For Nazism is pathologically incapable of creation, it can only destroy. And either the residents of Ukraine will get rid of him, or he will destroy Ukraine.
  36. +6
    1 October 2022 21: 26
    I wonder where our brigades are on constant combat readiness, about which the chief reindeer herder spoke recently? The fact is that they literally don’t exist at all. Either this reindeer herder was blatantly lying, or they were placed near Kiev and now they have to “pull the nails with their butt”....It hurts
  37. 0
    1 October 2022 21: 34
    So yes, Surovikin is now in charge on the Liman Front. They are raising younger generals. Let's see what he shows.
  38. +4
    1 October 2022 21: 37
    Ramzan Akhmatovich is perhaps the only one who is telling the truth.
  39. +5
    1 October 2022 21: 38
    When will this “male sexual organ with an I on the end” end? What is the boss thinking about?
  40. +13
    1 October 2022 21: 40
    The loyal Putinite simply named the switchman’s name, and everyone rushed to heatedly discuss it.
    But in this story there is someone who commands all these generals and in front of whom they stand at attention. The one who personally gave the order not to touch Azovstal and then returned all the militants captured there to their homes.
    How easily everyone is led into vanity, completely unaware of the main player in all lives and destinies.
  41. +6
    1 October 2022 21: 58
    Experts’ fears are increasingly being confirmed that the entire vertical with behind-the-scenes fuss is motivated by some other result other than the complete defeat of the enemy.
  42. BAI
    +4
    1 October 2022 22: 01
    If anything will destroy Russia, it will not be competent personnel decisions. The first successes were achieved thanks to surprise; everyone there is a hero. Now we need to fight, and not play political games, we need to appoint smart commanders, not personally loyal ones
  43. +9
    1 October 2022 22: 03
    "Tov. Stalin. The play "Front" published in the press deserves special attention. This play has been harming us for centuries. It needs to be removed and the author held accountable. The perpetrators in this regard should be sorted out. Timoshenko, 28.08.1942/XNUMX/XNUMX.

    ***
    "Owls. Secret
    Northwestern Front, to Marshal Timoshenko

    I received your telegram about Korneichuk's play The Front.
    You are wrong about the play. The play will be of great educational value for the Red Army and its commanders. The play correctly points out the shortcomings of the Red Army, and it would be wrong to turn a blind eye to these shortcomings. You need to have the courage to admit shortcomings and take steps to eliminate them. This is the only way to improve and perfect the Red Army.
    I. STALIN, 28.08.1942/XNUMX/XNUMX.
  44. -2
    1 October 2022 22: 04
    And Akhmatovich is straight Suvorov. In general, a scapegoat was found. Lapin, who took these areas with an insufficient number of troops using antediluvian equipment. He is to blame, logically. Not the General Staff, not the Defense Ministry, not intelligence, not the VPR as a whole, only one Lapin.
  45. -3
    1 October 2022 22: 09
    Ramzan you have soldiers in the Russian Federation...... Kadyrov... Better for the Motherland and Kadyrov
  46. +2
    1 October 2022 22: 16
    When you look at the rat face of General Bulgakov, it becomes increasingly clear what Putin’s power is.
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  48. +3
    1 October 2022 22: 26
    Probably the General Staff needs to somehow change the tactics of large-scale command and control of troops....at this rate, you can be left without all the mobilized and volunteers in a month
  49. +7
    1 October 2022 22: 27
    Isn’t the surrender of the now Russian city of Krasny Liman a shame?? Supreme, what is going on, what is going on there at the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces??!
  50. +10
    1 October 2022 22: 32
    Kadyrov is completely right. From the very beginning of the SVO, we have seen failure after failure in the planning and conduct of this operation.
    1) the failure of the offensive of the first stage when the offensive plan resulted in one and a half thousand corpses of our soldiers in the first few days + an attempt to plug the hole with conscripts that formed after contract soldiers began to break those same contracts en masse.
    2) a crazy withdrawal from Kiev, which was carried out in the spirit of escape from Germany in the early 90s with even greater losses of equipment + loss of face.
    3) the impossibility of taking or liquidating Avdiivka and securing Donetsk in 7 months
    4) the impossibility of securing Russian territories from shelling.
    5) over the last less than a month, the entire Kharkov region and several cities of the DPR have been lost, the cities of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions are being turned into ruins by the Ukrainian Armed Forces, and in the next few days the successful seizure of the Zaporozhye Nuclear Power Plant by Ukrainian militants is very likely.
    6) The front did not collapse only thanks to the massive heroism of our ordinary soldiers, pilots, helicopter pilots, artillerymen and mid-level officers.
    6) The Russian high command has completely failed both in planning and carrying out the Northern Military District, and not only is it not correcting its failures, but they are aggravating them.
    The worst thing is that now their entire hope of fixing everything rests on the fact that they say mobilized weavers, loaders, combine operators, teachers and artists will come and how they will drive Western mercenaries so that their heels will sparkle. And the General Staff will only have to do this - this is a place on the uniform for new find the orders and use them to drill holes for them.

    As for Shoigu, he is a good organizer and businessman and nothing more, while Putin is not a military man but an intelligence officer, and both of them trust the “professionals” of the General Staff in planning the operation, who completely failed it.
    And by the way, gentlemen, when the fascist Zaluzhny admired Gerasimov, he admired exclusively his stupidity in planning the operation.

    By the way, the West’s raising of the topic that Russia is going to launch a nuclear strike on Ukraine in the near future is based on their confidence that if we act the way Russia did all 7 months before, we will not be able to turn the tide of the war and the Russians are doomed to failure.
    Of course, we will see what happens and how, but one thing is already clear to everyone: since we are leading the NWO, now we can only lose.
  51. +11
    1 October 2022 22: 36
    We, comrades, shouted here and became indignant, but everything will be like with that caravan.
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  53. +7
    1 October 2022 22: 50
    The life of our generals teaches nothing. Chechnya and Georgia have been forgotten, everyone remembers only Syria. War against Arab homeless people.
    I believe that demotion and a public tribunal against all those responsible for the surrender of Izyum and Liman will dramatically improve the situation.
  54. +11
    1 October 2022 23: 03
    Who besides Kadyrov can say so openly? I mean governors, ministers....
    Everyone is afraid to say a word against them; the vertical of power will instantly crush them.
    ____
    In general, who do we think our people are?
    I turned on the “Time” program today; I haven’t watched it for a hundred years.
    Mom, dear!
    Yes, it turns out that we are winning on all fronts, in a single impulse.
    Does anyone who writes texts to the announcer seriously think that people don’t read the Internet?
    It seems they don’t lie, you can’t catch them by their tongue, but they don’t tell the truth either.
  55. +4
    1 October 2022 23: 04
    I would put Kadyrov with Chechens and machine guns to shoot all the traitors who interfere with the systematic bombing of the Ukrainian economic, industrial and communication infrastructure. The western part of Ukraine is not bombed because there is high treason and a fifth column embedded in the Russian high command
  56. -1
    1 October 2022 23: 06
    It's a shame that there's a rift. Someone is achieving this. And he’s already starting to succeed. This is a PITY.
  57. +1
    1 October 2022 23: 19
    It’s time for someone in the Moscow Region to explain that they have the opportunity to start their career over. From lieutenants, to the front line.
  58. -8
    1 October 2022 23: 23
    It’s strange that there are no questions to the LDPR NM. This is their sector.
    There is a maneuver war going on. Such waste fits into its logic.
  59. +3
    1 October 2022 23: 25
    What is Kadyrov wrong about??? You might think that the problem of idiots in Adidas pants “suddenly” surfaced for the first time on February 24th!
  60. +3
    1 October 2022 23: 42
    minus Rokhlin minus Lebed minus Kadyrov (in the future, for example in an accident).
  61. +7
    1 October 2022 23: 44
    I also have questions. they screwed up, but the Kanashenkas and Podolyaks were talking nonsense too cheerfully.
  62. +2
    1 October 2022 23: 47
    According to Milonov, he is required to destroy at least one target every day. This could be an infantry fighting vehicle or strengthening a Ukrainian detachment.

    Read on WWW.SPB.KP.RU: https://www.spb.kp.ru/daily/27452.5/4655799/Now Milonov has left Donbass and arrived in Moscow.

    Read on WWW.SPB.KP.RU: https://www.spb.kp.ru/daily/27452.5/4655799/
    No comments. Clowns rule.
  63. +2
    2 October 2022 00: 08
    How can Lapin correct the troops of the ceremonial Western Military District in the short time that he commands them? The shameful 1st TA with its ceremonial Kantemirovskaya and Taman divisions was not ready for a real war, they slept through Kharkov in March, and then everything else
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  65. +3
    2 October 2022 00: 28
    Strelkov writes that this is a betrayal; incompetent leadership of troops does not happen so often. Indeed, something is murky, this is all.
  66. +3
    2 October 2022 00: 52
    In this situation, it is necessary to remove Gerasimov himself from his post. And Lapin, what can you do? The court will sort it out. We can only say words of respect about Kadyrov. At least he tried to change something, although not on the battlefield.
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  69. 0
    2 October 2022 02: 20
    There is an opinion that the draining of raisins is sanctioned from the very top https://t.me/moskva3rim/8138
    And the estuary is already a trailer.
    And we're tired of shouting about tactical nuclear weapons - Why is everyone itching?
    - if you can’t fight, then nuclear strikes won’t help
    - Why are you suddenly sure that the screwdriver won’t fly into it?
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  71. +3
    2 October 2022 03: 20
    In addition to several sensory defeats, the RF Ministry of Defense still has bad impressions in terms of honesty. All explanations for the reasons for the failures are the same and extremely false, such as regrouping, diversionary maneuvers, leaving the city for more advantageous positions... I would like to ask, who do they take us readers and listeners for?
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  73. +2
    2 October 2022 04: 03
    Everything you need to know about the jingoistic, competent presentation of the incompetent and criminal leadership of the generals was written by the author in yesterday’s article here.. This is either ultra-subtle trolling, or such an unceremonious deception that there are simply no words.. Here is this wonderful text: “.. in connection with which a rapid rush from Kr. Liman to a new line of defense to Kremennaya became possible. According to military correspondents, the troops withdrawn from Kr. Liman took up new positions, are fighting with the enemy and are awaiting the imminent arrival of reinforcements..." that is, another delay and unprecedented Call the blindness of the leadership and the abandonment of positions by the fighters after heroically waiting for reinforcements a “rapid rush to a new line of defense.” Bravo, to the authors! In Balakleya there was a “regrouping”, and in Liman there was a “swift rush”.. In general, there is nothing to say. Unless I can suggest listening to the song of the now deservedly unpopular BG. But the song is good, sincere.. Remember..: “It’s a pity that help didn’t come, reinforcements weren’t sent...” I would make it a drill song for the LPR units.. When they march past the stands at the victory parade.. And on the podium - those in pants with stripes, with big stars...
  74. +2
    2 October 2022 04: 04
    This is the rare case when I agree with Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov - regarding General Lapin - who, from my point of view, really did not perform any feat in Lisichansk, and the Hero, together with another similar general, about nothing and Abachev - received the title of Hero - for that same Lisichansk, according to orders and in the order of a “theatrical gesture” from those in power, so that the electorate would consume. Of course, I could be wrong, but I have a flair for the truth, even if it comes from Ramzan Kadyrov, who is not mine, from the word he is quite a hero, me It has never let me down yet.
  75. +8
    2 October 2022 04: 14
    What else can “amusing” troops do? Abandon intact armored vehicles, lose planes in parking lots, drown the flagship... It’s beautiful to march at parades and try on haute couture uniforms. . Our army is fighting worse than in the First World War, by God...
  76. +3
    2 October 2022 05: 13
    Quote: Monster_Fat
    Yes, at first they sent assistance to Ukraine with helmets, medical bags and bulletproof vests. And when they saw what the “second army of the world” really was, they unleashed a real Lend-Lease. Just recently they wrote that the United States announced another package of assistance to Ukrainians with weapons worth... $12 billion! It's awesome if it's true

    At first they thought that there was no point since the Russian army would unwrap them to shreds, so they almost did not sponsor the Ukrainians, but when they saw that the stoned guys, stuffed with weapons and without aviation, could bend Russia, then the supply began, and so no one is hammering trains with weapons like that substations with rails. There is a continuous flow of both weapons and money and manpower. The further the further, the worse it will be. By spring there will be another wave and between autumn and spring there will be a continuous quiet increase plus volunteers.
  77. +4
    2 October 2022 05: 39
    Kadyrov is right, something not very clear is happening at the front. It seems that someone's leftist interests are involved there.
  78. +8
    2 October 2022 05: 55
    I’ll just leave this here: “Mass executions have begun in Krasny Liman. Taking into account the referendum that just passed, it is very convenient for the Nazis to calculate their victims. According to the voting lists. The majority of residents of the town, with a population of about 15-17 thousand, voted to join Russia. How many of them will survive is unknown. Most are old people, women and children. If it were my will, I would declare nationwide mourning. And I would do this every time our troops leave another city to be massacred by the Nazis.
    This is not the time for holidays when your compatriots are executed by the hundreds..."
    Ivan Okhlobystin wrote this from there, from Donbass. I wrote it in my heart, with bitterness...
    Well, strippers, aren’t you ashamed? Is there anything itching anywhere? Disgrace and Betrayal.
  79. 0
    2 October 2022 06: 05
    Quote: Kasatik

    What is your rank in the SBU? Why are you lumping together Rybar’s opinion (a very dubious shot, by the way) and Kadyrov’s statement? By the way, about Syria. Palmyra was surrendered under Lapin and they had to take it again, with blood. As for walkie-talkies about the head, in Deir ez-Zor one such army commander also tried to bully. And tell them that he is from Transbaikalia and will show you how to fight in a minute. He arrived in a cavalcade at the targeted area, where he was covered with a second mine. I received a hero. For courage and heroism

    And you idiot, where will you be from: TsPSOshnik or Vsushnik? Read it again and find in my message at least one word expressed by Kadyrov and quoted by me? It is in this message that you quoted.
  80. 0
    2 October 2022 07: 51
    Lapin is Russian. An officer. Oath. They set tasks and provided forces and means. The officer complies. Has no right to criticize. What don't you understand? The problem is not Lapin. The problem is people with the last name oh well, sabotage is obvious
  81. 0
    2 October 2022 08: 12
    The Commander-in-Chief is silent, so it’s necessary
  82. -2
    2 October 2022 09: 27
    Top war has become a trash heap, soon the fascists will be heroes here
  83. -1
    2 October 2022 10: 23
    Well, why not work on Krasny Liman now...
  84. +1
    2 October 2022 10: 27
    Indeed, some kind of strange war with these retreats. Listen to Konashenko, well, everything is fine and the enemy’s equipment is on fire and we’re blowing everything up and the enemy is suffering hundreds of losses a day (and how is all this counted?), but in fact the Russian army is marking time on the defensive and surrendering cities. Reminds me of the situation in agriculture in the USSR in the 80s: milk yields grew and milk yields fell, but in fact butter was on coupons.
  85. 0
    2 October 2022 15: 56
    We don't need it tomorrow. Our people died yesterday. Today where
  86. +1
    2 October 2022 17: 32

    The commander of the Western Military District of the Russian Armed Forces, Alexander Zhuravlev, has been relieved of his post. The new commander of the Western Military District was Lieutenant General Roman Berdnikov, who at one time led a group of Russian troops in Syria.

    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has not made official statements, but information about personnel changes is published on their Telegram channels by writer and co-chairman of the party “A Just Russia - Patriots - For Truth” Zakhar Prilepin, journalist and TV presenter Ruslan Ostashko, as well as political strategist Marat Bashirov.
    The criticism of the head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov against the commanders who abandoned Krasny Liman had an effect.
  87. +1
    2 October 2022 17: 47
    Unfortunately, all the anger of people, and not ordinary people, is not worth anything. Lapin will still be given an order for “heroic regrouping.”
  88. DO
    +1
    2 October 2022 18: 00
    Kadyrov’s emotional statements are largely understandable to the public, and at least somehow explain the reasons for the failures of the Russian army in the Krasny Estuary. Moreover, the theories of other authorities about “leveling the front” and “more advantageous positions” do not suit the majority of the population.
    --
    However, the statement of Ramzan Akhmatovich https://t.me/RKadyrov_95/2911:
    I don’t know what the RF Ministry of Defense reports to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, but in my personal opinion, it is necessary to take more drastic measures, up to and including declaring martial law in the border areas and use of low-yield nuclear weapons

    - this is already over the edge. Use nuclear weapons on now Russian or future Russian territories? And then live on poisoned land?
    And what kind of helpless army is this that will be the first to use nuclear weapons in a regional conflict? So, she doesn’t know how to fight any other way?
  89. 0
    2 October 2022 18: 41
    I completely agree with Kadyrov when the commander-in-chief gets rid of the parquet generals, or he is satisfied with everything.
  90. 0
    2 October 2022 19: 38
    "... he would demote Lapin to private, deprive him of his awards and, with a machine gun in his hands, send him to the front line to wash away his shame with blood." Correctly said! Maybe it’s really time to remember about the “penal battalions” for such “warriors”?!
  91. 0
    2 October 2022 20: 22
    No previous merits should be an excuse for the omissions and outright blunders of any commander, because the price of the mistakes made is the lives of our soldiers, this is the enormous damage caused to our Motherland. And the commander of the Central Military District in the Northern Military District, Lapin, must be held accountable for his negligence. The policy, strategy and tactics of conducting combat operations in the Northern Military District in the RF Armed Forces are carried out by the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces. The General Staff is headed by Gerasimov. I think you all understand where the wind is blowing. Even the Commander-in-Chief praises Gerasimov for his actions. Without Gerasimov, nothing is being done in the RF Armed Forces. Thanks to Kadyrov. Ramzan Akhmatovich Kadyrov revealed the details of Lapin’s blatant negligence. I understood how Lapin leads military operations without getting out of bed. It is very convenient to direct military operations from Lugansk, 150 kilometers from Krasny Liman. Complete sloppiness!!! We do not know all the details of the Northern Military District, but it is obvious that Krasny Liman and Izyum were handed over to Bandera by our high command of the Russian Armed Forces. They themselves admitted this behind various excuses. After the failure in Izyum, the surrender of Krasny Liman is already the second case of failure of the Russian Armed Forces in the Northern Military District. Those. Such gross mistakes by command have become systematic. Given the advantage of the Russian Federation in aviation and in key types of weapons, this should not have happened. And the same people in the command of the RF Armed Forces are also involved in the weak air defense of the cities of Donbass and border regions of Russia. In the interests of all Russians, it is necessary to take prompt measures to improve the quality of the military command in Ukraine and to select conscientious, intelligent and responsible commanders. I propose that representatives of authorized and competent bodies, honored veterans of the Russian Armed Forces, request Putin to conduct a review at the Security Council of the latest omissions and miscalculations in the organization of the leadership of the Special Military Operation in Ukraine. The strategy and tactics of military operations in the Northern Military District must also be adjusted, taking into account the mistakes that have occurred. It is necessary to create a special joint operational headquarters for the leadership of the Northern Military District under the leadership of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the RF Armed Forces Putin, consisting of representatives of the RF Armed Forces, self-defense forces of the DPR, LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson region, with the right to promptly contact Putin, in case of emergency, of each member of the operational headquarters of the command SVO.
  92. -1
    2 October 2022 20: 57
    No)....I'll try to be brief).....my team unfairly took 2nd place in the army. Then a new commander came to me, a Jew. I gave up and resigned through the CPSU Central Committee. Managed. WITH............
  93. -1
    2 October 2022 21: 07
    Guys. Good for you. Lapin - from the side. He is not a switchman...... Switchmen have all their names on......
    1. -1
      2 October 2022 21: 08
      what and who doesn’t understand? Ukrainians are sitting everywhere.......Lapin should not be substituted......
      1. 0
        2 October 2022 21: 11
        question. what? are you? took the Russian city of Liman..... Next what?
        1. 0
          2 October 2022 21: 11
          Where is the gesture of goodwill from our Ukrainians?
          1. -1
            2 October 2022 21: 13
            not Ukrainians))) Judeo-Banderists well..... moderators? are you in the know?
  94. 0
    2 October 2022 21: 20
    Our most talented general, Teplinsky, was transferred to staff work. Commander of the Airborne Forces. It seems like a promotion, but was removed from the front
  95. 0
    2 October 2022 23: 20
    Dear forum users! Help me enlighten myself. I can’t understand how our Ukrainian Armed Forces didn’t notice the concentration of so many troops near Kupyansk. I do not take up issues of electronic intelligence, front-line, intelligence, and space intelligence. Let's not talk about high things or things that don't exist. Is it trivial at the brigade-BTG-company-platoon level that it is impossible to organize surveillance at a distance of 15 km from the garrison location? Just with binoculars and just using Mavics? If there is reconnaissance, then what is the problem of giving target designation to the brigade’s artillery and smashing the Ukrainian Armed Forces into dust? I just can't understand...
  96. 0
    3 October 2022 00: 41
    The problem is systemic - we do not have Western technologies. Industry and defense industry are undeveloped. The current systems in the country are a fraud. GDP is very slow to make decisions when the situation already requires other solutions.
  97. 0
    3 October 2022 03: 51
    Quote: Mint Gingerbread
    . That's why they run, not from battles, but from mediocrity.

    There is a category of people who “run” under any circumstances. But no one has ever managed to escape from themselves.
  98. 0
    3 October 2022 04: 43
    Kadyrov insisted on launching an artillery strike on it, but they did not listen to him. In his words, the enemy must be fought in any way possible, even with low-power nuclear weapons.
    //////////////////////////////////
    Regarding low-power nuclear weapons, respected Ramzan, of course, got excited. We will, of course, liberate the territories, but an area contaminated with radionuclides is a mine for many years for those who will live there. This is especially dangerous for children and youth. Their bodies are most susceptible to the effects of radionuclides. "Tested and proven" for 8 years of service at 35 km. from the Semipalatinsk nuclear test site. As for the above-ground and underground nuclear tests carried out there from 1949 to 1989, more than 30% of even underground explosions carried out from 1963 to 1989 were accompanied by the release of radioactive gases, which increased the radiation background hundreds of times Semipalatinsk region. This became possible due to gross violations of the technology for plugging wells; the concrete sealing plugs did not meet the standard. It was these 224 explosions that caused radiation contamination of the entire eastern part of Kazakhstan. For example, on February 12, 1989, by mistake of engineers, this plug was installed not at the site of a nuclear explosion, but nearby on an empty well without a charge. In fact, the explosion turned out to be above ground. The power of the charge was 70 kilotons (almost 2 times more than in Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined) and on the surface of the earth exposed to the explosion, huge cracks formed through which radioactive gases escaped for several days, poisoning everything with radiation. All citizens living in the military camp from 1949 to 1990 were issued certificates of the established form indicating the total (accumulated) effective radiation dose received, over 100 cSv (rem). The radiation dose that gives the right to benefits is over 5 rem. Now in the Russian Federation you can only go to the toilet with these pieces of paper, because When applying to the courts, the appointed examination establishes the radiation dose to be less than 5 rem. If we write about the number of colleagues and members of their families who died prematurely, then it will not be tens of thousands, but much more. The same will happen with the consequences of using a combat nuclear warhead. Whoever made the decision will not be enough, and who will live there will be a problem for decades. Before using nuclear weapons (and these will not be underground, but ground or air explosions), it is necessary to study the problem and not casually wave a “nuclear baton” regardless of the consequences.
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  100. +1
    3 October 2022 16: 28
    I would demote Lapin to private

    It may not be worth demoting a general to private, but removing him from his post and putting him on trial for surrendering our city is the right thing to do!!!
    Horrible!!!!
    Where, finally, are our generals of victory!!!