Russian troops left Snake Island

30 2022 June 839

Today is a holiday in Kyiv, Zelensky is celebrating the "great victory" in connection with the "liberation" of the Snake Island in the Black Sea. True, there is no merit of the Ukrainian military in this, the Russian garrison left the island voluntarily.

The information that Russian troops left Zmeiny was published by a number of Russian TG channels, and then confirmed by the Ministry of Defense. According to the military, the island was left as a gesture of goodwill for the organization of humanitarian corridors and the export of grain from Odessa. Now Kyiv must clear the coast, as Zelensky promised, as Russia has removed the last obstacle preventing it.

The Russian Federation does not interfere with the efforts of the UN to organize a humanitarian corridor for the export of agricultural products from the territory of Ukraine (...) Now the word is up to the Ukrainian side, which still does not clear the Black Sea coast from its coast, including port waters

- it is spoken in the message of the Ministry of Defense.

According to the report, the garrison left the island on 30 June. Some Internet resources already in the morning reported on an attempt by the Armed Forces of Ukraine to attack Serpentine. It was reported that Russia allegedly lost one Pantsir-S MANPADS.

Just a couple of days ago, information was received from Ukrainian sources that Zelensky gave two weeks to the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to capture Zmeinoye with a landing. In Kyiv, they plan to pass it off as a "big victory" against the backdrop of a complete failure in the Donbass. The island allows you to control not only Odessa, but also the mouth of the Danube.

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Churchill

+8

30 June 2022 13: 21

What a good excuse they came up with “after completing the task.” At least they themselves know what the task was. How many people were laid down, the cruiser "Moscow", equipment,....... And everything was in ashes.
1. aglet
  
  0
  
  30 June 2022 17: 14
  
  "cruiser "Moscow""
  maybe this was the task?
AAK

+7

30 June 2022 13: 21

Another “gesture” similar to a “quick withdrawal” from the 3 northern regions of Ukraine. After the first, Bucha followed, with all the well-known consequences, what will happen after the second? Most likely, the Serpentine Banderlog will quickly be occupied by troops, after which they will “lease it for 999 years” to small-shaven people or mattresses, which will unfold there to their full extent and which the Russian leadership will not be strong enough in bells to throw out of there. Another shame and spitting on more than a hundred of our soldiers and officers who died and were wounded on Zmeinoy. I fully admit that Russia simply does not have the strength, means and desire to stop any attempt to attack the island, or the Russian “Buratins” and supporters of the sect of “apologists for the negotiation process” were made an offer that they could not refuse, and the leader most likely already has with them and there is no strength to fight...
1. Negruz
  
  -1
  
  30 June 2022 14: 22
  
  A bomb will fall on the landing...
ugol2

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30 June 2022 13: 25

The island is a clearing for the fleet.
I have a question, can our fleet do anything at all other than shoot Calibers, preferably from the Caspian Sea, so that nothing comes in response?
Radical

-1

30 June 2022 13: 25

Quote: Alexander
Why was it necessary to land there at all? The island is within striking distance of MLRS and Tochki! It would be possible to fight if there were several Derivation-Air Defense ZAKs with controlled detonation on Zmeinoy. They could shoot down MLRS along the calculated trajectory of the projectiles. Thus, the TOR and Pantsir air defense systems would not be overloaded.

Your "Derivation-Air Defense" as a means of air defense is pure slag!
1. Gippo
  
  -1
  
  30 June 2022 13: 28
  
  Why slag? It simply doesn’t exist yet with controlled detonation.
  Everything is being tested.
2. Alekandr
  
  0
  
  30 June 2022 13: 57
  
  What are your arguments?
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badavim

+11

30 June 2022 13: 28

Unfortunately, our lies are already annoying, why take them for fools. It cannot be said as it is, the island is located at a distance of 35 km from the coast, therefore the Ukrainians can fire at it, with hail and NATO cannons, and there is no way to defend it. Why did you even have to go there knowing the situation?
Leorys

+6

30 June 2022 13: 29

Why let the enemies send grain and everything else by sea, what nonsense
Yurets

+2

30 June 2022 13: 30

True, there is no merit of the Ukrainian military in this, the Russian garrison left the island voluntarily.

The island garrison was shelled by Ukrainian artillery, supply ships were sunk by Ukrainian anti-ship missiles... No, the Ukrainians are not involved here at all, of course.
In general, in military parlance, this is called retreat. And we retreated from the island precisely because of the actions of the Ukrainians.
The same thing happened near Kiev, where it got to the point that our paratroopers in the forests were surrounded and cut off, after which they were destroyed. And the retreat of the 30.000 group from near Kyiv was a completely logical decision.
There is a war going on, everyone understands everything. We are not fighting with barmalei.
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NSV

+6

30 June 2022 13: 31

Yes.....Slow-mindedness....this is about the leadership of the Northern Military District!!!One step forward, ten steps back....Shameful people!!!
storm

+9

30 June 2022 13: 32

According to the military, the island was left as a gesture of goodwill for the organization of humanitarian corridors and the export of grain from Odessa.

It’s a disgrace, and how many statements there were, we’ll bring S-300, S-400, MLRS, artillery, Russia will have a “land cruiser on Zmeinoy instead of the sunken Moscow.....
They announced a list of weapons that wouldn’t even fit on this island, and I immediately thought, “Didn’t he write that?” because any normal person who has seen the real dimensions of o. Zmeiny should have understood that it was possible to install one or two TOR/Pantsir air defense systems there, two or three 152 mm guns and a company of soldiers with anti-tank systems and mortars to protect the coast.
The TOR-M2 of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was drowned along with Bekh, and if ours themselves blew up the weapons that were previously brought to the island, then there are simply no words....
Emergency

-3

30 June 2022 13: 32

Odessa will be taken from the ground.
1. Dikson
  
  -1
  
  30 June 2022 15: 49
  
  No one will take Odessa, calm down.. Neither from the sea nor from the land.. Everything will end on the borders of the LPR and DPR..
  1. Negruz
    
    -1
    
    1 July 2022 21: 38
    
    That’s why they took Kherson...
Victor1

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30 June 2022 13: 33

another defeat for the military-political leadership of the country. why the enemy’s logistical support was not destroyed, why the railway communication through which long-range Western weapons are delivered without problems has not yet been destroyed. Putin said that these weapons are cracking like a nut, but in reality this is another deception and it is these weapons that are cracking our side along the entire front line, including in the Donbass in Donetsk every day. What's the answer?
Execution of Nazis? A blow to Kyiv and Lvov? No!
Exchange of Nazis who wanted to be silenced and another resignation
The West is actively promoting the idea of repeating February 1917, and the stupid Kremlin government is doing everything possible to disgrace itself.
These idiots want to “agree” and leak everything once again.
Or was it initially a staging to distract the population’s attention from internal problems, but everything turned out too seriously and now they are thinking about how not to offend their Western partners?
With such a government, victory will be in question; any half measures and stopping halfway for Russia will be a defeat and a delay in a full-scale major war. If you now give the Ukronazis 2-3 years, they will be armed and trained in such a way that it will not seem enough. Don’t the Kremlin’s enemies of the people understand that with their humanism they are simply creating even more terrible consequences for the country? Or is this being done specifically for an even greater secretive genocide of the Russian People? It was not America that made it so that last year Russia had the highest population decline since the Second World War.
1. Negruz
  
  -4
  
  30 June 2022 14: 20
  
  Well, one “Februaryist” has already made his mark....
2. DenSQR
  
  +1
  
  30 June 2022 15: 17
  
  What kind of humanism, what are you talking about, the money has stopped flowing, serious people are suffering losses, summer is around the corner, and mistresses with their families in Italy, Miami, etc. (underline as necessary) have not been sent, well, how can we live like that? So we need to fold, fold, but not just like that, but with “gestures of goodwill” and “at the request of the working people”
  1. Victor1
    
    0
    
    3 July 2022 10: 30
    
    it’s clear that the Kremlin is trying to merge everything into yet another Minsk agreement and once again betray the Russian people, supposedly not understanding, but in fact understanding that if we don’t bring the matter to an end now, in 2-3 years the Ukrainian regime will be prepared so that it will a full-scale war and already on our territory, with an attempt to collapse the country according to the Yugoslav scenario. Along the way, there will be attempts to repeat February 1917.
    And the Kremlin needs “humanism” in order not to offend its Western partners and to have a chance at an agreement. 30 years doesn't teach these idiots anything. Or maybe this agreement was there from the very beginning... in light of recent events, both military and political, such thoughts are coming more and more often. If only we had learned from mistakes from the very beginning, listened to competent experts and, most importantly, fought for complete victory. We would not see such consequences now. Until now, the enemy’s logistics and railway communications have not been destroyed, through which the Ukrainian regime is supplied on a huge scale, ardent Nazis are exchanged, and so on. There are no adequate responses to both military and political attacks.
    I hope that there is still at least someone in power in the Kremlin who understands the seriousness of current events and that stopping halfway for Russia will be a defeat, with deadly consequences.
3. Alexander Raikov
  
  -2
  
  30 June 2022 15: 40
  
  In 1941, Stalin turned 63. - from V.V. in 2022 turn 70 years old. Maybe this is the problem?
g_ae

+7

30 June 2022 13: 34

Our SOF fighters of the Russian Armed Forces destroyed the entire Ukrainian garrison of Zmeiny Island, withstood several attacks and landing attempts, and shot down a bunch of aircraft and drones.

After the approach of cannon and rocket artillery from Western countries, in order to preserve the lives of our heroes, a successful operation was carried out to withdraw from the island on three fast Raptor boats. Then the island comes under the control of our missiles, fleet and aerospace forces.

Could it be written like that? And we didn’t come up with anything at all, by the way.
From TG Turned to Z war.

Or maybe clown speechwriters are milking officials to the front lines? At least before getting acquainted. To the same Zmeiny.
1. aglet
  
  0
  
  30 June 2022 17: 19
  
  “Our fighters of the Special Forces of the Russian Armed Forces destroyed the entire Ukrainian garrison of Zmeiny Island”
  there were 70 Ukrainian border guards who surrendered without a fight. no heroic battles took place
Alexander Gurin

+8

30 June 2022 13: 36

The Russian Navy simply does not have the means to hold Zmeiny Island. After the creation of a ground-based group of anti-ship missiles by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, it became clear that our Navy does not have any effective anti-missile air defense at all. Convulsive attempts to load coastal "TOR-s" and "Pantsirs" onto the upper decks of our ships are pointless... Therefore, in order not to disgrace ourselves at all, they pretended to be a "gesture of goodwill"...
Dizel200

+5

30 June 2022 13: 38

These gestures of goodwill, deep concerns and other tinsel do not honor the leadership.
Mikhail Maslov

+5

30 June 2022 13: 38

Here are the answers to the questions of the delitant. I think, despite all the “jingoism”, we left correctly. We don’t just need meaningless victims. It’s good that we managed to get off the island without being under fire. But other questions arise. When we landed, we calculated the threats Why are Western weapons still reaching the front without hindrance? Why these humanitarian actions when the 2022 harvest in Ukraine will rot without being harvested? Why does the Black Sea Fleet operate without action (the Marines are fighting)?
mark1

+5

30 June 2022 13: 38

You can’t understand Russia with your mind... but you can’t do that, he wanted to run, he wanted to run away, he sank the cruiser, he killed people... why, for what?.. The same with Kiev...
Clone

+6

30 June 2022 13: 41

Purely out of interest... Has any of the foreign adversaries ever reacted to our “gestures of goodwill” exactly as our leaders expected??? Each such “gesture” was perceived only as their victory and our defeat!
Skipper

-4

30 June 2022 13: 42

There is no need to be hysterical with this island because the main goals are completely different and for the military this island may be important today... but tomorrow it will be completely useless.
raki-uzo

+4

30 June 2022 13: 42

Step back, step forward, step left, step right, let's start again.
Osipov9391

+3

30 June 2022 13: 43

Russia in Ukraine operates with a very limited peacetime group, which was already small in our country.
The ground forces are smaller than those of Turkey, which is surprising.
But Ukraine relies on Western intelligence data that all NATO countries willingly leak to it, and relies on waves of mobilization and supplies of military resources from abroad.
This gives it a certain advantage over Russia.
Numerical advantage.
And the advantage of Russian missile strikes is reduced to a minimum due to the depletion of the missile supply.
The advantage in aviation is being minimized due to the deployment of ever new air defense systems supplied by the West.
So no wonder.
1. Nickelium
  
  +7
  
  30 June 2022 14: 03
  
  Stock depletion? Is that why they fired 14 missiles at Kyiv? There is exhaustion in our leadership. Exhaustion of the mind.
2. Repellent
  
  -3
  
  30 June 2022 17: 29
  
  Quote: Osipov9391
  the advantage of Russian missile strikes is minimized due to the depletion of missile reserves
  
  Proof of "depletion of the number of missiles" - to the studio.
  
  Quote: Osipov9391
  The advantage in aviation is being minimized due to the deployment of ever new air defense systems supplied by the West
  
  Proof of "deployment of Western air defense systems" - to the studio.
  
  So far, you haven’t presented anything here except your own wet dreams. And no great victories have yet been seen for the Ukrainian Army, despite “its obvious advantages” that you advertise.
  1. Korovin
    
    -1
    
    30 June 2022 20: 24
    
    Reminds me of the cheerful reports from the Wehrmacht in 42 - “no great victories are in sight for the Red Army YET.
    But then there were 43, 44, 45. The depleted economy of Germany versus the first-class economy of the USA and the British Empire.
    History is not a teacher. She's a supervisor.
3. rumpeljschtizhen
  
  -1
  
  30 June 2022 19: 45
  
  And who is to blame for the fact that there are few ground forces...or didn’t they have any idea that there would be a war with Ukraine?
S. Viktorovich

+4

30 June 2022 13: 46

Now after this the shame remains, either surrender Crimea or take Odessa.
Bshkaus

+5

30 June 2022 13: 47

I looked through the comments to this article with great interest, and even more to the articles when Zmeiny was taken.
Our public cleverly knows how to change shoes on the fly from “a strategically important unsinkable aircraft carrier that has pinned the NATO fleet in its ports” to “a gesture of goodwill and generally, God knows, it’s not good for us.”
1. Negruz
  
  -5
  
  30 June 2022 14: 17
  
  And where was the public wrong?
2. Third district
  
  +5
  
  30 June 2022 14: 29
  
  Quote: Bshkaus
  Our public cleverly knows how to change shoes on the fly from “a strategically important unsinkable aircraft carrier that has pinned the NATO fleet in its ports” to “a gesture of goodwill and generally, God knows, it’s not good for us.”
  
  Those who come here to work change their shoes. The so-called trolls, with protective propaganda. Yesterday, Solovyov, on his show, screamed like crazy, staring at the camera: “Who are you to have an explanation with you?” It was he who shouted to the people who were asking questions about Taira and the Azov people.
Sergey Tankist

+6

30 June 2022 13: 48

In short, the continuation of this strange war...
1. navigator777
  
  +6
  
  30 June 2022 14: 04
  
  The whole world is already laughing at holy fools
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1. Korovin
  
  +1
  
  30 June 2022 20: 26
  
  The second was a retreat from Kharkov
Orik

0

30 June 2022 13: 52

The base on Serpentine replaced the Russian cruiser "Moskva": in the British press about the importance of the island for the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation
https://topwar.ru/198162-baza-na-zmeinom-zamenila-russkim-krejser-moskva-v-britanskoj-presse-o-znachenii-ostrova-dlja-chf-rf.html?ysclid=l50wkur7xj48484716

Shaw, they lost Moscow again?)) Why were all these efforts when he was within range of cannon artillery?
Rostislav Prokopenko

+3

30 June 2022 13: 55

We found our shield of Achilles, it seems...
Adagka

+7

30 June 2022 14: 05

Quote: Osipov9391
Russia in Ukraine operates with a very limited peacetime group, which was already small in our country.
The ground forces are smaller than those of Turkey, which is surprising.
But Ukraine relies on Western intelligence data that all NATO countries willingly leak to it, and relies on waves of mobilization and supplies of military resources from abroad.
This gives it a certain advantage over Russia.
Numerical advantage.
And the advantage of Russian missile strikes is reduced to a minimum due to the depletion of the missile supply.
The advantage in aviation is being minimized due to the deployment of ever new air defense systems supplied by the West.
So no wonder.

So who prevented the General Staff planners from correctly calculating the required forces and means to carry out the operation? Well, since they can’t put two and two together, demote everyone to the rank and file and go ahead to Gostomel and Zmeiny to implement their own “brilliant” strategic plan. Their entire mega plan was concocted on the knee, however, like everything that the current “elite” reaches for, it consisted of a small victorious war in a week, where the population joyfully greets the incoming troops, the generals seize power, and the clown Zelensky runs, dropping his suitcases. But as usual, a mistake crept into the calculations today, which is now being paid for with the lives of our fighters, there are no extreme and guilty people in such “brilliant” planning, as always, there are more and more lies, the goals are becoming less and less ambitious every day.....
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1. DenSQR
  
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  30 June 2022 15: 20
  
  I wish I knew where she was going......
Million

+2

30 June 2022 14: 06

such an interesting gesture of “goodwill”...
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1. GNM
  
  +1
  
  30 June 2022 14: 55
  
  Plus, the most reasoned comment. I, too, am annoyed by whiners who throw out hysterics for any reason. In any war there are tactical retreats and false maneuvers, like in chess. Victory at the end of the match goes to the one who did not flinch and carried out his plan. And if the psyche is so vulnerable, there is no need to go to the VO website to “let’s be afraid together” like in a cartoon, but it’s better to watch cheesy ladies’ TV series.
  1. Korovin
    
    -2
    
    30 June 2022 20: 29
    
    Not a war, but a special operation. The “Second Army of the World”, which was going to butt heads with NATO.
    And now the fourth month shamefully rests on the 40 km front in the Donbass against the army of the poorest country in Europe.
    Oh yes we are.
    1. Negruz
      
      0
      
      1 July 2022 21: 48
      
      One of the poorest countries in the world is North Korea...
      And there is already a clash with NATO...
Sasha1979

+4

30 June 2022 14: 11

The worst news of June. The enemy couldn’t knock us out, so we leave on our own. There would be a lot of good will. I'd better end my comment here.
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1. Negruz
  
  -2
  
  30 June 2022 14: 14
  
  A bomb will fall from above...
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1. Negruz
  
  -5
  
  30 June 2022 14: 32
  
  They have already started deleting comments, although there was nothing seditious there. I responded to one commentator who complained about the difficulties of fighting NATO weapons supplied to Ukraine. Why did you yourself shout before that they are useless, let them supply them.
  
  For example, there is no need to lie: no one deleted your comment - I checked it specifically...
  But when you throw it in, all means are good...
  1. Third district
    
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    30 June 2022 15: 02
    
    Quote: Negruz
    For example, there is no need to lie: no one deleted your comment - I checked it specifically...
    
    They really didn't delete it. The site just started to slow down, so it didn’t open right away.
Foundling

+5

30 June 2022 14: 29

Reminds me of the landing in Gostomel. They took it at a considerable price, but obviously couldn’t keep it. Although the understanding of a sufficient number of forces and means for the capture, subsequent defense and development of the offensive should be at the time of planning the operation.
fa2998

+3

30 June 2022 14: 35

Quote: Sergio_7
There is no point in keeping Father Zmeiny, only losing people.

And the counter question is, why the hell should it be captured?? I think there were some casualties there, and regular shelling of the island - WHY?
An interesting strategy - first we’ll occupy something, then we’ll leave with a heroic look - we don’t need it! Snake is not the first episode of such a strategy in this war.
1. Negruz
  
  -4
  
  30 June 2022 14: 48
  
  That's why the Nevsky Piglet was organized...
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1. Servisinzhener
  
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  30 June 2022 15: 06
  
  To be fair, many forum members also proceeded from the same considerations on the basis of which the operation was originally planned.
  Selflessly proving that there are “one and a half people” of fascists and they don’t solve anything. And the bulk of the pro-Russian Soviet people. And they won't fight. Therefore, on the night of February 24, no one purposefully fired at the barracks with personnel. And as it turned out, it was in vain.
  Of course, among the total population of Ukraine there are not many fascist Svidomites, but they are the ones in key positions. And this turned out to be enough for the failure of the original plan.
lopuhan2006

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30 June 2022 14: 50

Strange times... The regular army is called some kind of formation, the “operation” began chaotically, with Biden in the six months before 24.02 there were more meetings and telephone calls than with Trump during his entire term, and if you count Macron then..... We are people Small questions, but we know how to ask them. Now I need to learn the English alphabet so as not to offend any letter. Although these are just differences in technology. If a circle and a square are added, then that’s it!? I can’t even erase them on a piece of paper, lest they come from the militant defenders. Somehow I immediately became afraid for my future.... I thought what could Covid replace? Nah.....
Sedoy

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30 June 2022 14: 51
The Ukrainian military has no merit in this; the Russian garrison left the island voluntarily

of course not...
this is entirely the merit of the General Staff’s stripes...
Dmitry Zverev

0

30 June 2022 14: 58

The topic of the fleet, and in particular the Black Sea fleet, is always a sore point. Since the end of the 17th century, when Peter the Great stormed Azov.
In general, I was surprised that after the death of our cruiser we continued to hold Zmeiny. After all, it is located off the coast of Romania, at a considerable distance from our communications. For all tasks in the Black Sea, we need to have a group of 6-8 large ships of the “cruiser” and “destroyer” class there, which could destroy any air targets with the help of their air defense. We don’t have any such ships in the region.
DenSQR

+6

30 June 2022 14: 59

Yes, I actually see that this operation should have been called the operation “Gesture of Good Will”; apparently, we had nowhere to show these gestures, so we first came to Kiev, and then again - and a gesture of good will, then Sumy, Chernigov, now here is Zmeiny Island. This is absolutely epochal, we were not kicked out of there, we voluntarily. I'm losing weight from our PR people, patent idiots! Well, gentlemen, bet on where the next Goodwill Gesture will be?
Adagka

+11

30 June 2022 15: 01

It would be nice to gather all these trousers with stripes, led by a foreman, and storm Avdeevka.
In four months, they don’t have enough intelligence to take this worthless village near Donetsk; something is stopping them, either Zelensky’s line (which, according to their stories, is more powerful than the lines of Siegfried, Maginot and Manerheim combined), or a cunning tactical one, or maybe even something sinful to conceal a strategic plan for the establishment of a new world order, then a gesture (aka step) of goodwill, then legions of civilians who are hiding behind a couple of thousand dill (according to the peaceful stripers in Avdeevka, no less than hundreds of thousands, or even millions), then instantly teleporting prodigies to another dimension, set up by the evil NATO members, which we are not able to track and destroy due to the elementary shortage of three-kopeck Chinese copters, then the million satellites of the scoundrel Musk, thanks to whom the innovative tactics of the Ukrop air defense do not allow the full power of our fifty-first generation air forces to unfold . In general, there are a lot of reasons, and most importantly, all of them are valid, but how can you ask for lack of results....
But to put an entire BTG at one crossing or to sink an entire fleet flagship near, as it now turned out, a useless rock (then it turned out that it was a useless and worthless rusty trough with nuts - well, that’s to summarize the comments of jingoistic patriots) and a couple more smaller ships, losing several units of aviation and air defense, and most importantly, the lives of the soldiers are always welcome. Well, they can also build a modest little temple for several billions (well, this is, so to speak, a job in their specialty, God himself ordered) so that there will be a place to have a funeral service for those who died heroically, it is unclear for what and why.
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2. Prisoner
  
  0
  
  1 July 2022 09: 27
  
  And why are you “stratekh” sitting on your pants? Show your class, warrior! Have you ever taken a squad to war in your life?!
CYM

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30 June 2022 15: 03
Quote: Vlad Baryatinsky
The landing on Gostomel, as an idea to capture a bridgehead near Kyiv, was good.
With the subsequent landing and unloading of troops, from the transport boards of the VKS.

The subsequent landing by landing was not initially planned. 20 Il-76s were parachuted to an unknown location.
IMHO Both landings, with unsuppressed air defense and active NATO radio reconnaissance, are an adventure in its purest form. Thank God the second landing was abandoned at the last moment. In general, Operation Danube 2.0 was not planned. Well, the result was very similar to the Arnhem landing of 1944.
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And11

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30 June 2022 15: 06

Quote: mordvin xnumx
Quote: And11
They brought it out right.

The question is, what the hell did they introduce??

Well, it was introduced a long time ago. And recently (according to TG channels) the Ukrainians have brought a lot of long-range weapons there and the shelling has become constant. No air defense will work here, so there is no need to pretend to be a target.
Servisinzhener

+1

30 June 2022 15: 07

Maybe they should bring more people there and cut off their supplies...)))
Ura Orlov

0

30 June 2022 15: 19

How many Banderaites were destroyed on Snake Island?
1. Rudkovsky
  
  -1
  
  30 June 2022 15: 38
  
  5 boats, 10 helicopters, 25 planes, 35 flocks of bayraktars and 5000 Nazis, no less.
  1. Korovin
    
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    30 June 2022 20: 35
    
    10 thousand couriers alone.
    Are you by any chance basing your calculations on Konashenkov’s reports?
    Has he already gone around the 3rd circle there or the XNUMXth?
composite

+7

30 June 2022 15: 34

The expensive island turned out to be:
three shells from 10 million dollars each Thor 20/30 million dollars, one Thor in tow 20/30 million dollars + the tug itself 50 million dollars, a helicopter 15 million, plus boats sunk, not counting the loss of personnel, a total of 150 million dollars gesture goodwill, two more hail, one tornado for 5 million and mltb with electronic warfare. + the cruiser was valued at $700 million. This is all so offhand that it flashed in the press.
Quite...more expensive than Miller's house even.
1. Negruz
  
  -1
  
  1 July 2022 22: 04
  
  The cruiser performed tasks that had nothing to do with the snake....
  For example, there is no need to throw it...
opposite28

-1

30 June 2022 15: 43

The Russian Federation does not interfere with the efforts of the UN to organize a humanitarian corridor for the export of agricultural products from the territory of Ukraine (...) Now the word is up to the Ukrainian side, which still does not clear the Black Sea coast from its coast, including port waters
A fashionable snakeskin ukromyachik in the Ukrainian gate, the next steps in the pure water of lovers of “Ukrainian rational grain” are curious.
Yuri Veselov

0

30 June 2022 15: 48

we just crap... and no one gives a damn about those guys who laid down their lives for this island... SHAME
1. V. Salama
  
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  30 June 2022 23: 10
  
  Quote: Yuri Veselov
  ...and no one gives a damn about those guys who laid down their lives for this island...SHAME
  This could be said about Damansky Island. The situation here is somewhat different - there is no longer a military need for the island, I feel sorry for the guys, including those who remained sitting there, the last time the Uragan MLRS flew there. Shooting them down is expensive, an anti-aircraft missile is 10 times more expensive, dill are just happy and having fun, there is nothing to get them from Zmeinoye, and pulling the Black Sea Fleet every time is not a thrill either. They just explained the reason specifically - as if not for us. Here a strange thing happens - our foreign policy is independent, but our domestic policy is not. This is about the issue of sovereignty, however. There are really only five capital letters you can write here.
fa2998

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30 June 2022 15: 51

Quote: 1122
Of course, no one has canceled military secrets, but somehow it was possible to communicate to another society?

For example, Dr. Goebbels, in the Second World War, explained such actions by “leveling the front”
shonsu

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30 June 2022 16: 06

I hope they know what they are doing.
Yuri Veselov

-3

30 June 2022 16: 06

we surrendered STALINGRAD.....
1. Emergency
  
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  30 June 2022 19: 14
  
  Did you serve under Paulus?
ada

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30 June 2022 16: 08

... According to the message... .

According to the report, it is impossible for outside observers to fully understand anything without accurate information.
Quote: Ivanushka Ivanov
But if we occupy the left bank + Odessa + Nikolaev, the price of the outskirts will drop to almost zero.

Not quite so, but there is no doubt that they don’t want to give Odessa and Nikolaev to us. I won’t reprint; I’ll give a link to myself on the topic:
https://topwar.ru/195609-glava-svr-rossii-sergej-naryshkin-rasskazal-o-planah-polshi-po-razdelu-ukrainy.html#comment-id-12438486
https://topwar.ru/195807-severo-zapadnyj-placdarm-razrezhet-ukrainu-na-dve-chasti.html#comment-id-12468373
Besides:
https://topwar.ru/196140-operaciju-po-zahvatu-ostrova-zmeinyj-razrabatyvali-inostrannye-sovetniki-pri-genshtabe-vsu.html#comment-id-12480353
... According to the message... .

According to the report, it is impossible for outside observers to fully understand anything without accurate information.
Quote: Ivanushka Ivanov
But if we occupy the left bank + Odessa + Nikolaev, the price of the outskirts will drop to almost zero.

Not quite so, but there is no doubt that they don’t want to give Odessa and Nikolaev to us. I won’t reprint; I’ll give a link to myself on the topic:
https://topwar.ru/195609-glava-svr-rossii-sergej-naryshkin-rasskazal-o-planah-polshi-po-razdelu-ukrainy.html#comment-id-12438486
https://topwar.ru/195807-severo-zapadnyj-placdarm-razrezhet-ukrainu-na-dve-chasti.html#comment-id-12468373
Besides:
https://topwar.ru/196140-operaciju-po-zahvatu-ostrova-zmeinyj-razrabatyvali-inostrannye-sovetniki-pri-genshtabe-vsu.html#comment-id-12480353

Most likely, Comrade Lesovik is right, in particular about the grain agreements; here are some of his comments.
Quote: Lesovik
Now Zelensky has little choice - either clear the water area or look for another excuse for refusing to transport grain by sea.

I assume that they agreed “on grain,” but other forces actively opposed this and prevented the planned evacuation of the garrison - they were counting on a continuation of the “blockade of ports.” I also assume that the abandonment of the island was planned earlier, after the completion of the naval operation, to cover which air defense and navigation support for the sea area of the island was required. This is a purely military approach, explaining the retention of the island at any cost and the agreements reached on the humanitarian corridor, the “senseless” desire to recapture the island at any cost, and then the shelling of it. Regarding Romania and the landing - "information noise" cover.

Quote: Clever_
Now tell me, how could the air defense stationed on the island block the ports of Odessa or the Danube? No way. It is anti-air, not anti-ship.
Perhaps this air defense could interfere with the delivery of cargo by plane to Odessa airport? I doubt it too. The range of the Pantsir or Tor-M2 air defense system is 12 km. And from the island to Odessa - 140 km.
How this island will suddenly help Ukraine reach Crimea is also unclear. The distance from the island to the coast of Crimea is the same (!!!!) as from the coast of Odessa to the coast of Crimea - 180 km.
This is actually the area that was covered by the air defense delivered to the island:

Further, over time it will become clear what exactly happened around the island. We need to see: will the mine action operation be started? and when? what forces and methods will minesweeping be carried out (including from the air)?, which NATO countries will be involved? whose bulk carriers will go where, what route and route? And most importantly, will they approach Fr. Serpentine large NK? Let's wait. And losing people and equipment is always difficult, then the “information war” will not miss its goal, even if it goes wrong.
Vlad Gor

+4

30 June 2022 16: 08

Russian troops left, i.e. Zmeiny Island was surrendered. What else will the Russian troops surrender or leave? Question. Why did the fleet command sink the cruiser Moscow? After the defeat, the cruiser Moscow was afloat for almost a day; there was enough time to carry out rescue operations. The weather was 3-4 points, considered quiet. Justifications and the fact of goodwill, this is for . In fact, our Ministry of Defense is engaged in mischief and lies. Over the last 40 days of the Northern Military District, the troops have advanced up to 10 km in some places; let’s take the advance to be 1 km/day. From Donetsk to the western border of Ukraine is 1100 km, if Russian troops move at a speed of 1 km/day, then the troops will arrive at the western borders in 1100 days or 3 years and 5 days will pass.
1. aleks700
  
  +1
  
  30 June 2022 18: 41
  
  Consider square kilometers. Occupying the whole of Ukraine would take hundreds of years at this rate.
acetophenone

+2

30 June 2022 16: 22

This has never happened before, and here it is again... (c) V.S. Chernomyrdin.
fa2998

+5

30 June 2022 16: 36

Quote: Tatiana
And what did our people think about this before ?! Why did this decision come to our authorities NOW?

Here is the main question for the Russian authorities for all of us!

Zmeiny was added to the long line of names that were first captured (with losses) and then decided “we don’t need this” - again given to the enemy. Chernigov, Chernobyl, Irpen, Bucha, Gostomel, etc.
Planning is surprising. Maybe I’m so narrow-minded, maybe someone can explain this strange strategy!
1. Konnick
  
  +2
  
  30 June 2022 16: 46
  
  Planning is surprising. Maybe I’m so narrow-minded, maybe someone can explain this strange strategy!
  
  Only Lieutenant General Konashenkov can explain this strategy...in a week, but now it is a military secret.
2. Korovin
  
  -1
  
  30 June 2022 20: 39
  
  Everything is explained very simply.
  The Russian army was given p..dy.
  And not NATA, but a poorly armed but stubborn and motivated army of the poorest country in Europe.
  And no conspiracy theories
  1. Negruz
    
    0
    
    1 July 2022 22: 06
    
    It’s clear: the Taliban are the coolest...
duschman80-81

+2

30 June 2022 16: 40

The most disgusting thing is that this surrender occurred immediately after the NATO summit, the results of which made it clear that war between the Russian Federation and NATO was inevitable...
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Adagka

+3

30 June 2022 16: 43

Quote: fa2998
Quote: Tatiana
And what did our people think about this before ?! Why did this decision come to our authorities NOW?

Here is the main question for the Russian authorities for all of us!

Zmeiny was added to the long line of names that were first captured (with losses) and then decided “we don’t need this” - again given to the enemy. Chernigov, Chernobyl, Irpen, Bucha, Gostomel, etc.
Planning is surprising. Maybe I’m so narrow-minded, maybe someone can explain this strange strategy!

So the explanation is simple - there was King Midas, who turned everything he took on into gold.
and here Midas is the opposite) everything that the current “elite” does not take on as a result turns into waste.
Niki71

+4

30 June 2022 16: 44

I feel sorry for the guys who died, it looks like the politicians are slowly leaking the special operation! First, they changed the goal of the operation, instead of the February “Demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine”, in June the goal was announced as “liberation of the territory of Donbass”. Well, Zmeiny is not territorially related to Donbass, so they give it back)) however, such a gesture of goodwill is very alarming, it looks like by August Donbass will be completely liberated and everything will be peace again, friendship with the Zelensky regime.
1. Negruz
  
  -1
  
  1 July 2022 22: 08
  
  In Russian we write "Donbass" with a double consonant
Dilettante grandfather

+7

30 June 2022 16: 49

I won’t comment on anything yet, but something is suspicious to me. I'll wait some more time. Then it will be clear whether to continue to monitor the progress of the SVO, or no longer need to monitor it.
I did not like the mere statement that the main task is the liberation of Donbass. Today it flashed in Yandex, in the news feed. But, I repeat, I will wait for now.
Genak

+6

30 June 2022 16: 50

I engage the following acts of goodwill - Kherson, Donetsk, Lugansk and the cherry on the cake, Crimea.
senima56

+2

30 June 2022 16: 51

I don’t like this theme: “First we take, and then we give!” After all, it has been said more than once: “The Russian flag should not be lowered where it was raised!” And here....
opuonmed

+4

30 June 2022 16: 55

It’s not sad, but someone completely crap one’s pants!
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1. Korovin
  
  -3
  
  30 June 2022 20: 41
  
  Belgorod, Belgorod.
  What is there in Crimea - little things.
certero

+2

30 June 2022 17: 00

Quote: dmi.pris
Being under attack on a tiny piece of land is meaningless

Cool. That is, when only 5 months into the war it became clear that it was impossible. Was it possible before? Or does our military lack planning and foresight? And who was responsible for this?
In general, it’s either betrayal at the top or stupidity. And you don't know what's better. Probably, betrayal, the traitor can be identified.
certero

-1

30 June 2022 17: 03

Quote: DO
Radar control functions can always be performed by Russian warships, which, in the event of a landing, will arrive in any way.

What ships and what radar control? Just give their names as an example.
Simfy

0

30 June 2022 17: 06

How to cover this piece of land from artillery? “Partners” supplied a long-range weapon for the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Alex Kron

-4

30 June 2022 17: 10

Well, that's right. There is no point in sitting there under fire. We'll have to pick it up again.
Foundling

+10

30 June 2022 17: 17

Unfortunately, SVO turned out to be a serious anti-advertising for us. If Western experts previously believed that the Russian army would take Kyiv in another week, now it has become obvious that even an enemy with an unmodernized unreformed army is a serious problem for us. We understood this too. Therefore, the initially set goals and objectives apparently have to be adjusted, recognizing the overestimated capabilities. Long years of fraud have had a very negative impact on combat capabilities, and in military academies, it seems that the program needs to be seriously changed.
1. Negruz
  
  0
  
  1 July 2022 22: 11
  
  Please name the European non-nuclear NATO member countries with armies larger and better armed than the Armed Forces of Ukraine of February 2022...
mojohed2012

+6

30 June 2022 17: 19

There can be no two opinions.
Unfortunately, our bad political leadership interferes wherever it is not necessary and twists the arms of the military.
Idiocy! Gostomel was taken at the cost of the life and death of our soldiers, and returned back! As well as Buchu and a bunch of other territories.

Now the serpentine one that ours died and held on to.

It is already clear to the ultimate degenerate that doing good will to the deceitful and arrogant West with the Ukrainian fascists is not a step towards peace, it is weakness.

They stole our money, do everything out of spite and to harm, fight with us, and we, through the deeds and hands of a naively kind guarantor, give them new territories, if only these evil Westerners would return everything as before, right? Gentlemen, lying politicians?
tsvetahaki

+4

30 June 2022 17: 30

Well, the “victory” has indeed come.
All that remains is for the Moscow Region to congratulate ukrov.
fa2998

+4

30 June 2022 17: 38

Quote: Grandfather is an amateur
I didn’t like that the main task is the liberation of Donbass

But what about denazification and demilitarization???
After all, we will now have a neighbor charged with revenge, well armed, and the former ideology raised to a cube. And even financed by the West.
The liberation of Donbass is not the end of the war, it is a pause until a new one.
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Koidaki

+1

30 June 2022 17: 44

It’s all down the drain, how come, we needed it, but now we don’t, we’re waiting for an answer in Sevastopol
Korovin

+3

30 June 2022 17: 49

The next series of “goodwill gestures” may no longer be delayed.
How about getting out of Ukraine completely?
It will be cheaper for the country.
Apart from one cosplayer of the Fuhrer who got into another “small and victorious” one.
aleks700

+3

30 June 2022 18: 32

Well, let’s say the garrison had to be withdrawn. But the wording. Goodwill gesture. Who did they tell this to? Us? Who prepares the texts? Who appointed them to the position? Drive away with a filthy broom.
tank64rus

+4

30 June 2022 18: 44

We have a gesture of “goodwill” and wait for the new Bucha.
Crisp

-1

30 June 2022 19: 07

Quote: Tatiana
Quote: Volkof
There is nothing to hold the snake, there is no possibility in the conditions of intervention of pi_ndos and their intelligence equipment ...

And what did our people think about this before ?! Why did this decision come to our authorities NOW?

Here is the main question for the Russian authorities for all of us!

Who is to blame and what are we going to do with all this after that?

Did you get married very successfully? And you have no complaints about yours? Where were you looking?
We need an island. Its radars scanned Romania. The country's planes are based there. You need to keep an eye on it. The cruiser "Moscow" did just that. Then on the island. But staying there means incurring losses. Unjustified. Our routes to the island are too long, from the edge they are three to four times shorter, they get there faster than us and cause trouble. As long as they have it, it doesn't harm us. When we have it, it is of great benefit. He is not able to stop us from taking Odessa. And then the islanders themselves will surrender.
Alexander Matrosov

-2

30 June 2022 19: 07

Quote: Dikson
No one will take Odessa, calm down.. Neither from the sea nor from the land.. Everything will end on the borders of the LPR and DPR..

You are an optimist.
Emergency

+2

30 June 2022 19: 13

Propagandists inflated the strategic importance of the island to incredible proportions and away they went. Our people left, they did the right thing. The Ukrainian Armed Forces will come and they will be fools, but not for long. Because the average life expectancy of these suicide bombers will be very short. The fact that our people left does not mean that they gave the go-ahead for the presence of bander spoons. By the way, in this topic, the number of banderva has become completely prohibitive, and in the topic “The control point of the Khortitsa group near Dnepropetrovsk was destroyed by a strike from Kalibr cruise missiles.”
1. TatarinSSSR
  
  -3
  
  30 June 2022 21: 23
  
  Please clarify - “the propagandists inflated it” - who exactly is this?
rumpeljschtizhen

-1

30 June 2022 19: 18

When at least Shoigu is removed from the post of Minister of Defense... it’s really already clear that, to put it mildly, he doesn’t measure up
Roman Efremov

0

30 June 2022 19: 19

And thank God!!! This island gives us nothing but headaches. It has no strategic value - it is a myth. Let's take Odessa and the entire coast - and so it will be ours. The propaganda effect of its capture in the first days of the war and the surrender of the garrison has long been forgotten.
1. TatarinSSSR
  
  0
  
  30 June 2022 21: 20
  
  If so, then why did our military capture it with such tenacity, suffer losses of personnel and equipment, and heroically defend it? It turns out that the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces is aware that this island is not of strategic importance? Did you make a mistake by sending guys and ships to slaughter for nothing?
2. Prisoner
  
  -1
  
  1 July 2022 10: 01
  
  Now this is a Bandera headache. Are they interested in climbing or are they still afraid?
Antor

+3

30 June 2022 20: 09

When our Ministry of Defense starts talking about goodwill, it means that something has not been calculated again, because there were so many assurances that Zmeiny Island was closed and blocked by our air defense with the participation of the fleet.!!
Yes, let’s let the Ukrovermacht win again, it’s a victory there, and we are again assured that everything is going according to plan....however, we are advised not to worry....!! Let's wait and see what our generals will lead us to, but looking from the outside, one thing is clear that not everything works out and along with noticeable successes in the liberation of Donbass, there are events of “good will” that can be interpreted as a military necessity or ...... .????
1. lopuhan2006
  
  0
  
  2 July 2022 19: 48
  
  Ukrovermarcht?) Under the leadership of a Jew!) Laugh! Are you sure your logic is ok? Or did the cap get caught in a gyrus?) Maybe there’s no need to substitute or invent words! Otherwise it looks stupid from the outside..... There is no need to call donkeys brainwashed for decades the Wehrmacht. Not you and not me, and not anyone! here on the site does not know the reason for this “operation”. And he won’t know for sure for another 10-15 years.
Sands Careers General

0

30 June 2022 20: 37

This island is unfortunate, like a suitcase without a handle.

Small, and all in the palm of your hand.
Even if the Great Ukrainians land there, they can be covered with missiles just once or twice.
It would be so bad that it would go under the water, neither ours nor yours.
agoran

+4

30 June 2022 20: 45

The conduct of the SVO is monitored not only by NATO countries/leadership, but also by other states; depending on the success/failure of the RF Armed Forces, they will decide which side to take.
And here it doesn’t matter whether the decision was correct or not in tactical terms.
The loss of image of the RF Armed Forces is what is important.
Oleg Barchev

0

30 June 2022 21: 03

There is no point in keeping a garrison on the island if you can fire at it from the shore at any time with 155 or 152 mm artillery, this would expose people and equipment to destruction. It is more important to prevent the enemy from occupying it and, in turn, to control the approaches with artillery.
TatarinSSSR

+4

30 June 2022 21: 14

Sometimes I want to directly say to Kanashenkov - Sit down, two!
What kind of nonsense do the propagandists of the Moscow Region spout... Then, as a gesture of goodwill, they withdraw troops from near Kyiv. That's from Zmeinov. Why not stop lying, why not start telling the truth? Like, yes, they screwed up, they didn’t calculate the forces and means for a full-time military defense near Kiev and Donbass. Intelligence screwed up. Let's draw conclusions: the stupid ones will be retrained, the stubborn ones will be punished. And we are leaving Zmeinoye because we can no longer suppress the Western-style weapons systems and UAVs attacking it; the Black Sea Fleet does not have ships with missile defense. Forced to leave to save our military and equipment. This is war. The mistakes of the rams with big stars are corrected by the heroes at the cost of their lives.
odisey3000

+2

30 June 2022 21: 15

I just don’t understand, fighting friends, you open Ukrainian sites with comments on this topic, there is continuous victory and victory, has our leadership really taught Butch nothing? It’s funny and sad to read. It has been demonstrated to the world community that the Russian Federation does not interfere with the efforts of the UN to organize humanitarian corridors .What kind of verbiage in the style a la Peskov, but tomorrow there will be Ukrainian equipment and weapons on the island and missiles will fly into our ships and we will wash ourselves with a bloody tear more than once. Who do we want to surprise the peacekeepers who have destroyed half of Ukraine. It was noticed as soon as the USSR and Russia are starting to fight for peace in the whole world, expect unexpected things like collapse, chaos and other delights of the fight for peace in our country. Yes, tomorrow caravans with equipment and weapons will leave from the ports of Romania and Bulgaria. We have a person in the leadership who calculates what the consequences will be will lead to the decisions of certain bosses, apparently, maybe they exist, but no one listens to them. Let’s remember the Minsk agreements that contribute to what is happening now in Ukraine in 2014. The story is when, by March 8, the leader announced to the whole country that conscripts would not be accepted participation in hostilities, and who will be, where to recruit people for the war, and it started to spread across the country, then the age of the contract was increased to 50 years, well at least not to 60, and thank you for that, then from the age of 18, offers came in, you can sign a contract, in general, when you realized that another nonsense was started, horse races began with a tambourine in search of volunteers. I want to remind you who fought in Afghanistan and Chechnya by chance, not conscripts, that’s surprising, yes. We all understand that one year of service was just a political decision on the topic of the day, This decision has nothing to do with combat training it did not carry, like the appearance of contract soldiers in the troops, for the most part a confirmation to higher headquarters that we are working in this direction. If we allow a year of service, then the pre-conscription training of this young man in a military registration specialty should be developed over the course of 3 years before service in army, but this is not even close, it’s just bullshit and fraud, no one in our country has seriously worked with the military contingent and is not working, look at our military registration and enlistment offices with frightened aunts. They fight in war, and if they start learning to fight, then there will be a big one everywhere the blood of soldiers and officers will flow. This decision on the island is ill-conceived and will still have sad consequences for us. And in this situation, it’s a pity for our dead guys who gave their lives for this island, as well as for Gostomil and Bucha. Why then was soldier’s blood shed here and there? for politics. Yes, somehow people’s lives have become inexpensive in our country.
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squid

-1

30 June 2022 21: 31

this was to be expected. the island is within range of even cannon artillery from the mainland. it is impossible to cover it with any air defense systems. hide and bury yourself too - the area is too small. It’s strange that they decided to leave a garrison there at all
Spatel

-3

30 June 2022 21: 55

Why are you so excited, citizens?
This is another “multi-move”!!
Have taken.
Handed over.
They took it again.
Passed again.
.....
.....
And finally, they took it for the last time!!!
Or did you pass...??
Living7111972

0

30 June 2022 21: 55

I do not understand what is going on?
Cut Samshitov

+2

30 June 2022 23: 12

As General Lebed said: “The general is a democrat, he sounds like a Jew is a reindeer herder.” I readily admit that it made sense to leave Zmeiny, who was targeted by the VKS. But the bleating of the general of the RF Armed Forces about “a gesture of good will” sounds disgusting.
Israeltos

-1

30 June 2022 23: 36

The Russian garrison left the island voluntarily.

He's talking nonsense! You left voluntarily haha, you trotted out as if from the outskirts of Kyiv and Sumy. There are a lot of videos on the Internet with shelling of Zmeiny from the mainland, he is a very convenient target for this. It just needs to be used as a stronghold during a landing operation, and with such a “stunning” speed of progress of the military operation, it is not possible to hold it. By the way, who said that the APU is only capable of hitting boilers? Where is this brovada now when you’ve been trampling in the Donbass for 4 months.
Two

+4

30 June 2022 23: 36

As the military stated, the island was left as a gesture of goodwill for the organization of humanitarian corridors and the export of grain from Odessa. What is similar to leaving positions near Kiev there was something about a gesture of goodwill. I’m an ordinary resident of Russia, explain to me that a cruiser was sunk near the island not far away Moscow, then they manically climbed onto this island, brought air defenses there to the whole country, announced that the island is the key to the Black Sea, killed a bunch of Ukrainian landing troops, celebrated the victory. Now they just left the island, blew up the hard-won air defenses and in the end (as a taxpayer at my expense, multimillion-dollar equipment they just blew it up), they said that in strategic terms it is unimportant, this is a gesture of goodwill, that inadequate people work in the Defense Ministry, with mental disabilities. And you can’t say such a thing during a war, a gesture of goodwill. After this, they want to conscript a lot of contract soldiers to the military registration and enlistment offices. A person with brains will look at this and say the first was a gesture of goodwill near Kiev, the second was a gesture of goodwill on Zmeiny Island, but with such leadership you can’t fight much.
meandr51

0

1 July 2022 02: 09

This unfortunate island has only one strategic significance - it breeds countless Ukrainian trolls.
Nikoha2010

0

1 July 2022 07: 00
The post is not mine, but I agree with the author.

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