Lend-Lease. Calculations and calculations

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“Suppose you have two apples in your pocket.” Someone took one apple from you. How many apples do you have left?
- Two.
- Think carefully.
Pinocchio wrinkled - thought so cool.
- Two…
- Почему?
“I will not give Nectus an apple, even though he is fighting!”
A.N. Tolstoy. Golden Key, or The Adventures of Pinocchio


Lend-Lease Supplies. Second material Lend-Lease Supplies clearly fell to many readers of "VO" "sickle in one place." No wonder 460 comments were made to him, more than to the article - to the cry of the soul “Do not touch Stalin”. And what commentators didn’t resort to any tricks in order to prove the unprovable in principle. One wrote that “The message of the Soviet government ...”, published in the newspaper Pravda, an organ of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, is “propaganda material” and therefore is not a source. Someone wrote that we could buy something there from other countries. And, of course, there were a lot of people who sang hosanna to Mongolian horses, contrary to the words of their beloved Stalin that the Second World War was a “war of motors”. What surprised me even more was the strange calculations of many commentators who tried to downplay the value of supplies with their help. Although, it would seem, here is a simple afrimetic at the kindergarten level: Pinocchio had two apples, Pierrot gave him two more. And that will be? There will be EXACTLY HALF, but not a third of this total number of apples. Because two and two are FOUR! So with the supplies! And it is obvious that for a number of indicators, if we compare what was produced during the war years and delivered, we will have 50 and more than percent. But our people are cunning, they add up the supply data with what has been produced, and are looking for interest on this total amount. The result is a third! A reception typical of Soviet propaganda ("and they also hang blacks!"), But it does not work today. It would be more correct to add to pre-war stocks produced during the war years, right? But then from the pre-war stocks it is necessary to subtract all that was lost at the beginning of the war. And this is not story Lend-Lease, and the history of the Second World War in full. And, as you know, in our country the fundamental multi-volume work “The Great Patriotic War of the 1941-1945 of the Years” was prepared in 12 volumes, and, in theory, all this should have been, but ... what is not, isn’t. By the way, the quality of this work was already described at VO, as well as how this study should have been supposed. But, unfortunately, it did not. So you don’t need to do casuistry, as well as demonstrate your ignorance to the whole world, but you just need to think a little. It is clear that it is a pity to part with the thought suggested from childhood that “we are great, we are powerful, more than the sun, higher than a cloud”, but it will be necessary. Moreover, the greatness of a nation is not at all determined by the number of people killed in the war, nor by the number of weapons produced by it. The USSR had much more in the 1991 year than in the 1941, and nevertheless, all this iron did not save him from death. It is important to learn from the past in order to adequately respond to the challenges today, and trying to make the past better than it is is an absurd undertaking. Well, now let's turn to more specific subjects, namely, to the issue of paying Lend-Lease.




Distribution of food packages for Lend-Lease in Moscow. 1945 year (RIA "News")


As many as three routes of military assistance


However, before we recall some interesting details. For example, there were not one supply routes, but three at once: the Pacific, trans-Iranian and Arctic. In total, they accounted for 93,5% of all supplies. However, none of them was completely safe. Moreover, those same planes, which were driven across Alaska and Siberia “on their own,” very often died simply by drinking, both on our side and on the American side. Well, due to weather conditions, of course. And again, no one was preparing for such a massive transportation. Neither we nor our allies were ready for them. Ports were not equipped, there were no piers, cranes, warehouses, railways. The same Vladivostok was four times more than Murmansk and almost five times more than Arkhangelsk handled cargo, although it is precisely about the fact that convoys stopped sending us along the northern route in 1943, most of all. Yes, they stopped there, but deliveries sharply increased in other directions. By the way, there was practically nothing to supply from the very beginning. The entire US army at the beginning of the war accounted for 330 tankswhy send something? And these are just quantitative indicators, you can’t even talk about qualitative ones: duralumin aircraft are in any case better than wooden ones, this should be obvious even to a layman.

What did they pay for with gold?


Well, now back to the issue of payment. Let me remind you that in the "Message of the Soviet Government ..." printed in Pravda, deliveries from the UK are indicated for the period from June 1941 to 11 on June 1944, but in the end they continued in May of the 1945. Why since June? Apparently, negotiations on supplies began literally immediately after the German attack on the USSR. In complexity, four million tons of military cargoes were delivered to our country, including also foodstuffs and various medicines. It is believed that the total value of armaments delivered from the UK to the USSR was 308 million pounds, and food and raw materials - this is 120 million pounds. Under the Anglo-Soviet agreement of 27 on June 1942, all military assistance provided by Great Britain to the Soviet Union during the war was completely free. TOTALLY FREE, I stress. But it must be borne in mind that until this date, that is, from 22 June 1941 year to 27 June 1942 year, that is, exactly exactly a year, the USSR paid for all supplies from the UK, paying for them both in gold and at the expense of its foreign exchange reserves . The cost of all these deliveries for this period of time today can be estimated in 55 tons of gold, which was transported from the USSR to England by ships of the British Navy. One of these "golden ships" is the British cruiser "Edinburgh", on board of which there were 5500 kg of gold, it was sunk on 2 on May 1942 of the year during its transportation.


The Belfast cruiser belonged to the same series as the Edinburgh cruiser, but, unlike the latter, the first was much more fortunate


Unique operation


As you know, during a unique operation on the bottom of the Barents Sea in 1981, it was possible to raise 431 a bar of gold weighing 5129,3 kg. Then the gold was divided in accordance with the agreement of the parties and the ownership of the goods in the following respect: 1 / 3 - went to the UK, 2 / 3 - received the USSR. Rescuers were paid 45% of the value of all the gold they saved. Five years later, in September 1986, the lifting operation was continued. From the day, 29 ingots weighing 345,3 kg were recovered. Nevertheless, five ingots weighing 60 kg still remained lying in the depths of the Barents Sea. Divers simply could not find them in the dark through the rusted ship, which was also flooded with a thick layer of fuel oil. Since the Soviet press reported that the ship was transporting gold in exchange for a land lease, the idea that land lease was paid for in gold was firmly rooted in the minds of Soviet citizens. Ignorant people still think so, however, in fact, “Edinburgh gold”, as well as all other gold received from the USSR to England from 22 June 1941 year to 27 June 1942 year, has nothing to do with Lend-Lease supplies . This is the most common trade when people pay for the goods they purchase. We emphasize once again - deliveries from England to the USSR during this time, this is not a Lend-Lease!

Lend-Lease. Calculations and calculations

Edinburgh during sea trials


Once again to the question of sources


In order not to repeat and not again refer to Pravda, I want to inform you that the “Resolution ...” indicated in it was then printed in the next edition: “Foreign Policy of the Soviet Union during the Great Patriotic War. - T.2: Documents and materials 1 January - 31 December 1944. - M: OGIZ, Gospolitizdat, 1946. - C.142-147. Any reader of VO can find this book on the net and look at these pages. All the figures given from the article are in it. That is, we are talking about the fact that in the USSR all this information was. However, as I already noted, there was freedom of speech and freedom not to use it! In the same newspaper, Pravda, dated April 5 of 1942, in the editorial devoted to the victory in the Battle of the Ice, there is not a word that the Teutonic Knights drowned in the lake. Not a single one! "Truth" does not lie! But then all the others (and no one bothered them with this) simply excitedly talked about how they were drowning and how many of them, worthless, there were thousands. And some, including even already completely new textbooks for the school, still repeat this nonsense. It was also with information about Lend-Lease. For people who know and for the same West, whose opinion the USSR valued, we had all the necessary information. But "out there." And for the "commoners" there was a massive flow of information in which the truth was lost, like a needle in a haystack. And it didn’t hurt, you could use it. This is indicated, incidentally, even by the readers of VO. Well, at that time, nobody would just print such material with links even to the State Political Publishing House! No wonder nobody used them even in memoirs!


Unloading another convoy in the Murmansk port


For the price of the gold standard of 1944 of the year!


But we continue to consider the issue of prices and payment. After England, we look at supplies from the United States, and here it turns out that aid under the Lend-Lease of the USSR corresponds to no less than 50 000 tons of gold (based on the 1944 gold standard, which is almost twice as much as the modern total gold reserves of all the leading countries of the world (including the USA itself). Moreover, under the terms of the Lend-Lease agreement, the USSR was not supposed to pay for supplies of the USA during the war years, as well as to pay for materials spent during the war, machines and other things were subject to payment. equipment that simply cannot be I was to return back - for example, the equipment of oil refineries. The amount of payment for all this was to be determined only after the end of the war.

We him, they ... us!


By the way, it is very interesting that the aggregate tonnage of Lend-Lease assistance sent from the USA to the USSR was approximately equivalent to the total grain shipments from the USSR to the USA from 1930 to 1940 a year inclusive (there are 19,5 million tons of grain worth 200 million dollars). That is, at first we fed them, and received in exchange for bread and fur of pedigree horses, tractors, machine tools and factories, and then ... then they supplied us with everything that we urgently needed during the war years. Such a relationship between our countries has always been a very close economic connection, which, by the way, even today, despite all the sanctions on a number of indicators of trade, exceeds 50% of the sales volume line. Although, in general, for Russia as a whole, the United States in terms of total turnover is only partner No. 6 with a share of only 4,2%. Like, by the way, in the 30 years! But then it was not so with tractors, but now ... with titanium. Well, progress is evident.


Unloading Matilda tanks in the port of Arkhangelsk


Well, about how the USSR, and then Russia paid for the Lend-Lease, you will learn from the next part.

PS Usually I don’t trust the materials published in “live magazines” too much. But this one seemed very interesting to me. And since the respected public reading VO usually does not bother reading such publications as Voprosy istorii, USA and Canada, History of the Russian State and Law, Homeland, and VIZH, I highly recommended to read the material here hence.

To be continued ...
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  1. 0
    2 October 2019 20: 31
    Quote: Tavrik
    Tavrik (Evgeniy) Today, 13:35

    This is my profession, Evgeny, and what is there to hide? I have three books about this and a bunch of articles in scientific journals. I myself haven’t watched TV for... oh, so long. I watch movies on my computer because the screen is large. But TV... Besides, I worked on it for 10 years. From 1980 to 1991 in Penza and three years in Kuibyshev. Shouldn’t I know... But even at that time TV was deceiving only in this way...
  2. +1
    2 October 2019 21: 09
    Quote: Tima62
    Yes, this is worse than Soviet propaganda.
    If we translate into apples, then Pinocchio had 6 apples, they gave him 3 (50% of what he had), in the end he had 9 apples, and every third was a gift, but not every second.
    I didn't expect such stupidity from the author.

    This is not stupidity, this is truly ideological sabotage. Such a simple diversion exaggerates Lend-Lease assistance and downplays our country’s contribution to the Victory over fascism. “Kolya from Urengoy” is resting, he is still far from such sophistication.
  3. +3
    3 October 2019 00: 06
    Dear author! It looks like you will paint yourself into a corner. The agreement between Great Britain and the USSR “On Trade Turnover, Credit and Clearing” was signed on August 16.08.1941, 06.09. It is believed that from September 1941, 16.08, supplies of military goods from Britain to the USSR followed the rules of Lend-Lease. But the agreement dated 41/XNUMX/XNUMX is valid in parallel with deliveries under Lend-Lease until the end of the war.
    On September 18, 41, the United States, in exchange for gold, gives a loan to the USSR for the purchase of military goods. The 1st Moscow Protocol was signed by the USSR, Britain and the USA on October 01.10.1941, 28.10.1941. The US President extended Lend-Lease to the Soviet Union on October 7, 1941. By November 1942, 01.10, the USSR had purchased weapons and materials from the United States for almost the entire amount of the loan received in September. And in 41, President Roosevelt thought and decided to postpone Lend-Lease in relation to the USSR from 01.10. 07.11.1941. Everything purchased by the USSR in the USA from 105,3 to 1943. considered purchased under Lend-Lease. The Soviet Union had to pay the remaining XNUMX million dollars by barter or in gold... And also, Lend-Lease supplies from Canada began to be counted separately from deliveries from Great Britain in XNUMX...
    True, it is still not clear on the basis of what agreements the minesail "Adventure" arrived in Arkhangelsk with a cargo of 200 secret magnetic mines, 1000 depth charges, parachutes and special pyrotechnic materials on July 31, 1941...
    Yes, in the “Armament” section in the material about torpedo boats, I recalled the port equipment that was evacuated from Murmansk to Arkhangelsk. Lend-Lease is not only military equipment and weapons. On 09.11.41/9/4. The Arkhangelsk sea trade port had 42 cars. This is for 144 districts: Economy, Bakaritsa, Moseyev Island, Molotovsk. In November 2, the AMTP fleet included 38 vehicles, including imported trucks: 1943 Austin, 7,5 Ford. In 11, the Molotovsky district of the AMTP in my native Severodvinsk received from imported supplies: a truck crane with a capacity of 3,5 tons; railway crane with a lifting capacity of XNUMX tons: two crawler cranes with a lifting capacity of XNUMX tons each.
    And another mystery for me: I have never seen figures on the sending of fluorspar - fluorite - to our allies from Amderma. But such voyages of ships of the Northern Shipping Company were, like voyages from Arkhangelsk, Molotovsk, Igarka, Belushya Guba with timber, apatite ore, and fish, precisely within the framework of Lend-Lease.
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      3 October 2019 07: 11
      Thanks for the info. It's always a pleasure to deal with knowledgeable people.
    2. +3
      3 October 2019 09: 59
      How did you determine that these supplies were within the framework of Lend-Lease? Why not as part of regular trade? Or, for example, some part of Lend-Lease, other ordinary trade.
      Reverse Lend-Lease is estimated at about 2 million, and if there were few supplies, it could be included in this figure.
  4. -1
    3 October 2019 07: 18
    Quote: merlin
    In my previous post it is quite clearly written that my area of ​​interest is “quantum physics”.

    I didn't notice, you know. A lot of work, but you look at the comments with half an eye. But quantum physics is really interesting. VO gave me the opportunity to meet different interesting people. But from the very beginning I was somewhat surprised by your tone, aggression and some phrases. Usually people in our circle express themselves somewhat differently. I’m also not a gift, but I was born and raised on Proletarskaya Street in 1954, surrounded by... yes. So it's not surprising. But now the time is different. and scientific workers, let's say, are somewhat more refined.
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      3 October 2019 07: 58
      Quote: kalibr
      But quantum physics is really interesting.

      Very interesting, but dangerous - in trying to understand, the roof begins to move just like that. I don’t know how it is now, but when I was a student, every year students tried to leave the dormitory of the physics department of Moscow State University through the window.
      Although... Einstein, although he received a Nobel prize for the photoelectric effect (quantum physics), could not stand CF and constantly trolled Niels Bohr, one of the creators of CF.
      Quote: kalibr
      Usually people in our circle express themselves somewhat differently. I’m also not a gift, but I was born and raised on Proletarskaya Street in 1954, surrounded by... yes. So it's not surprising.

      What is the difference between a popular intellectual and an ordinary one: a popular one can not only understand a subtle hint, but also punch him in the face for it.
      Quote: kalibr
      But now the time is different. and scientific workers, let's say, are somewhat more refined.

      Physicists are different. The same Niels Bohr once shot all his students on a dare. And in his house there was the dream of any normal man - a free beer pipe.
      Among physicists there are still enough of those who sacredly honor the glorious traditions.
  5. +2
    3 October 2019 17: 22
    Avior (Sergey), dear, back in 1978, as a prize, I was given Yuri Nikolaevich Kuchepatov’s book “Miles of Fire” about the work of the Northern Shipping Company during the Second World War. In the 90s, several collections “Northern Convoys” were published, Mikhail Nikolaevich Suprun’s book “Lend-Lease and Northern Convoys”, scientific conferences were held at NArFU, after which the collections “War in the Arctic” were published (I need to clarify, I don’t remember exactly, in 2000 and 2006). In Severodvinsk, Oleg Borisovich Khimanych worked for the newspaper “Ship Side” for a long time, and I developed a good relationship with him. I have known the employees of the Severodvinsk City Museum, Sevmash and Zvezdochka museums for many years.
    One of my grandmother's brothers, Ivan Georgievich Testov, was one of the founders of the people's museum of the Zaostrovsky collective farm. He has been gone for many years (he was drafted into the army in 1942 and he navigated the White Sea on a Kawasaki boat, and ended up storming Koenigsberg in the 75th separate artillery division of special power on captured 211-mm German guns), and the collective farm "Zaostrovsky" no longer exists. , and the museum is alive...
    Stories from my mother's sisters and brother... It seems that this is not a very reliable source for learned historians. But I'm not a historian. Simply - this is the story of my family. My mother’s brother started working in Arkhangelsk at the “Krasnaya Kuznets”, and then at the age of 16 he was sent to the Far East with other boys, working in Nikolaevsk-on-Amur and in Sovetskaya Gavan. He returned to Arkhangelsk at the end of 1945, then left again for Sovgavan, worked as a foreman of mechanics repairing ships and vessels, he was not yet 30 years old - the country awarded him the Order of Lenin. One of my mother’s sisters was in defense work in Karelia, one worked throughout the war in the Arkhangelsk port on Economia, one worked in hospitals since 1942.
    Plus our city and regional newspapers, and city and regional television...
    Although, you are right, there are many questions... With the same supplies of flour and grain from Canada, including under the loan agreement of 1942... On the other hand, the icebreaker Montcalm has worked in the western sector of the Arctic since May 1942 and in the Arkhangelsk port, like Lend-Lease, and in 1943 Canada gave it to us...And the British Hurricanes in 1941 with a flight time of more than 30 hours were not taken into account in the USSR and were not counted towards deliveries under Lend-Lease, but they flew us...
  6. +2
    4 October 2019 15: 28
    Why do many persistently write that Moscow was saved by Siberian divisions? As far as I remember, it was mainly divisions from Kazakhstan and the Far East that distinguished themselves there. The same division of Polosukhin - the Far East or Panfilov's division - was formed in Kazakhstan. There is no doubt about the overall victory. But why do many people call these divisions Siberian?
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      5 October 2019 21: 14
      Well, if we take it to the point of absurdity... Part of Kazakhstan belongs to Siberia. And before 1917, what we call the Russian Far East was more often called Eastern Siberia (more precisely, Eastern Siberia in the current understanding and the Far East in the current understanding, taken together, were called Eastern Siberia). Although, on the other hand, before the revolution, the Amur region was most often not considered Siberia, and no one considered the Amur people to be Siberians; they were sometimes called “Russian Americans” due to some specific behavioral traits.
      P.S. This, of course, does not answer your question.
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    10 October 2019 21: 32
    Quote: zenion
    I wonder how the Romans got on foggy Albion? Was there really no strait at that time? Or did the Romans drop from the underwater trireme? Many forget the policy of the United States and Naglia - to give weapons to both, and let them kill each other as much as possible. Russia and the United States were saved by the USSR under the leadership of Stalin. But the USSR lost the war to Hitler under the leadership of the Marked One. Now in the area that Hitler wanted to capture, there was a situation Hitler dreamed about and warned Stalin - a raw materials appendage to the colon, an appendix.

    Hitler and Naglia are all from Narnia? Why are you mutilating the Russian language?
  9. 0
    18 October 2019 14: 37
    they don't allow me to comment
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    18 October 2019 15: 28
    Oh, I broke the blockade.
    I wonder how the Author will admire the fact that 70% of Lend Lease came already when the USSR was fighting on German territory??? - after 1944??? - why was it needed if everything later went under pressure, and it was still necessary to pay off with sworn partners. After all, at that moment there were more trophies than Lend-Lease deliveries.
    But this is nonsense, personally, I would really like the author to explain his reverence for the states, which already during the war between Germany and the USSR, after 1942, pumped 3 billion dollars into Germany!!!!!
    Throughout the war, 55 offices of the largest US companies were open and working perfectly in Berlin.
    The Ford hare alone built 3 factories in the occupied territories and supplied Hitler with 65000 trucks and tractors.
    Moreover, the American campaigns were fueled by German submarines and other ships throughout the war, for 300 million dollars.
    If, as the Author likes, we count this in terms of the bullets that were used to shoot our relatives and friends, then every eight out of ten were paid for by English and American devils, whom the Author represents as angels and urges us to pray for them.
    With this war, the British and Americans (however, these two heads grow from one butt.... torso) solved several of their problems, got out of the recession, sent their troops into Europe, robbed the whole world so that 90% of the world's reserves of precious metals were concentrated in states and England.
    NATO was created, where more than 700 career Abwehr officers calmly carried out military duties, to which the American president laughed - “even if the Soviets don’t like it, we don’t care, but Germany and many other European countries simply have no others!” - I think you understand what kind of policy was pursued by former super people with blue blood against the Soviet people, who stuck their snouts in the dirt, and many were simply awarded birch crosses.
    The author is indignant against comments that run counter to his carefully constructed chain of reasoning that the peoples of the USSR owe their lives to the creatures who unleashed and financed this bloody war, and something else should be given to them with an enthusiastic grimace - THIS IS PROPAGANDA, WHICH IT PLACES US IN THE DISCHARGE OF PET ANIMALS FROM WHICH REPRESENTATIVES OF “DEVELOPED CIVILIZED” COUNTRIES SEW GLOVES.
    Personally, I DO NOT AGREE with this, and I will always express MY point of view, without currying favor with the richest dynasties, who rule the politics of Western countries as they please in the hope of being able to suck in money in the form of grants and other thirty pieces of silver.