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The manufacturer will serve the Su-34 bombers throughout their life cycle.

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The Russian Space Forces and the defense industry enterprises have agreed to switch to the full life cycle of service for Su-34 bomber, reports RIA News Commander-in-Chief of the All-Union Congress of the VKS Viktor Bondarev.


“By the end of this year, we plan to switch to the full life cycle of creating the Su-34. Today we discussed this at the plant. We will start from the end of this year, as soon as the relevant contracts are concluded, ”said Bondarev.

According to him, “the full life cycle will help ensure the reliability of the service and increase its serviceability, which should not be less than 90-95%.” In addition, “due to constant monitoring, the aircraft will issue the correct flight hours.”

“Suppose an airplane is supposed to fly 300-400 hours per year. He flies, and the company will be responsible for its health. This is better for them, they will monitor the condition of the units and units, ”he explained.

“There was practically no rapid exchange of information. Now, within two or three hours, the company will be able to determine which part is needed and where it can be taken from, ”Bondarev stressed.



He noted that "the Su-34 headquarters service center will be at the Novosibirsk plant, representative offices in all parts where these aircraft are located."

“This aircraft will replace the Su-24 when it runs out of its installed resource. The Su-34 will go on the program as a fighter-bomber, and we will consider it in the future as an attack aircraft aviation. In the future, he may be replacing the Su-25, and we will go on the same line of various modifications of the Su-34. Versatility will be achieved, ”said Bondarev.

During operation, the Su-34 "showed itself from the most beautiful side, it has a very good bomb load - 8 tons, excellent accuracy characteristics, allowing it to work as an ordinary bomb almost as high-precision weapons"He added.

"The aircraft today is practically brought to a state that satisfies all the requirements of the technical assignment issued by the aerospace forces," the commander concluded.
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  1. Svoy_tovarish
    Svoy_tovarish 26 June 2016 09: 34
    +15
    This device makes me feel the most enthusiastic. As I understand it, this is the best and most widespread phenomenon in fighter aviation in modern Russia. As far as I remember in 2008, we had only one such, as they say then he became the hero of the "Five Day War". How many are in service now, about 80 like?
    1. Mitek
      Mitek 26 June 2016 09: 41
      +2
      Quote: Svoy_tovarish
      This device makes me feel the most enthusiastic. As I understand it, this is the best and most widespread phenomenon in fighter aviation in modern Russia. As far as I remember in 2008, we had only one such, as they say then he became the hero of the "Five Day War". How many are in service now, about 80 like?

      Yes, but with the fighter you got excited.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 26 June 2016 09: 58
        0
        The manufacturer will serve the Su-34 bombers throughout their life cycle.

        This will increase the burden on the manufacturer. Will there be enough production capacity at the Novosibirsk plant? As I understand it, the most difficult service will be carried out there. Representations in the flight parts are unlikely to be engaged in such repairs - they will most likely only supply spare parts from the factory. I ask you not to judge strictly, I just express the opinion of the layman.
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 26 June 2016 10: 29
          +7
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          The manufacturer will serve the Su-34 bombers throughout their life cycle.
          This will increase the burden on the manufacturer.

          This will increase the life cycle of aircraft due to standard, factory spare parts and blocks!
          No matter how honest a private company may be - it needs profit and will it wait for its "native" spare parts or will it take new ones at the market, but Chinese ones, made of powder metal ?!
          And the manufacturer will be raised by staff, guaranteed jobs will increase. And in the end, the honor of the manufacturer will rise to full, after-sales service!
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 26 June 2016 10: 38
            +1
            Quote: Starover_Z
            And the manufacturer will be raised by staff, guaranteed jobs will increase.

            In this, I just have no doubt. I have a doubt: will there be enough space for servicing aircraft on slipways? Let's not forget that at the plant they will not only repair, but also build new DRY. It turns out: you need to open new workshops.
            1. maximon2005
              maximon2005 26 June 2016 12: 12
              +3
              In each regiment there is a power supply, which is engaged in repair. Here it will include representatives of the plant. And they will, with the help of local specialists, maintain the serviceability of the aircraft. And to repair every malfunction at the factory ... this will never happen.
          2. WUA 518
            WUA 518 26 June 2016 10: 41
            +3
            Quote: Starover_Z
            or will take new, but Chinese, powder metal from the market ?!

            Chinese blocks for the Su-34? Where are they released? When did you manage? laughing
            1. Starover_Z
              Starover_Z 26 June 2016 16: 13
              +1
              Quote: WUA 518
              Quote: Starover_Z
              or will take new, but Chinese, powder metal from the market ?!

              Chinese blocks for the Su-34? Where are they released? When did you manage? laughing

              I mean a variety of metal fasteners and in general, everything auxiliary, metal.
              For example: put on your cottage, on the water supply under the meter, the stop valves not cast bronze, but baked from powdered aluminum, it is cheaper and looks 5!
              And what will happen then, tell ?! This zapornik will fly away soon and you will pay for the overexpenditure of water of the hoo!
              And then the plane!
          3. Amurets
            Amurets 26 June 2016 11: 16
            +4
            Quote: Starover_Z

            This will increase the life cycle of aircraft due to standard, factory spare parts and blocks!
            No matter how honest a private company may be - it needs profit and will it wait for its "native" spare parts or will it take new ones at the market, but Chinese ones, made of powder metal ?!
            And the manufacturer will be raised by staff, guaranteed jobs will increase. And in the end, the honor of the manufacturer will rise to full, after-sales service!

            Sorry to interfere. Foreign companies earn the main day due to the production of spare parts and maintenance. The release of new products in the share of revenues of large engineering companies is about 30%, the rest is spare parts, maintenance,
        2. dauria
          dauria 26 June 2016 11: 49
          +1
          This will increase the burden on the manufacturer.


          Well, to begin to know that they are under this "service" understand. Pre-flight, pre-flight, re-flight, post-flight? Scheduled inspections, park days, repairs by replacement of units. Regulatory? Funny, these people must be military. You can’t take them away. If you decide the warranty resource (the responsibility of the plant to replace failed products) to extend from two to thirty years .. fellow the military only for - a woman with a cart, the mare is easier
          I just don’t understand why the plant needs such free hemorrhoids. request

          And, I realized, it’s probably about buyers like Arab sheikhs, they can laughing
        3. KnightRider
          KnightRider 26 June 2016 11: 56
          +2
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          This will increase the burden on the manufacturer. Will there be enough production capacity at the Novosibirsk plant? As I understand it, the most difficult service will be carried out there. Representations in the flight parts are unlikely to be engaged in such repairs - they will most likely only supply spare parts from the factory. I ask you not to judge strictly, I just express the opinion of the layman.

          Enough for now, because out of 80 built Su-34s, more than half are not older than three years, i.e. complex maintenance is not required. In addition, now the plant, in addition to producing new "ducklings", is engaged in the repair / modernization of combatant Su-24s, and when this type of aircraft is removed from service, the repair area will be given entirely for the Su-34. And there you look, and ARZ will be connected.
        4. RDX
          RDX 26 June 2016 14: 31
          +1
          This is called "after-sales service" due to the fact that it is not developed in the military-industrial complex, many export contracts fail, imagine the sale of a branded car, without their service centers, but they will fall below the plinth + loss of additional income
        5. Alex_Tug
          Alex_Tug 26 June 2016 21: 43
          0
          And who should serve? Chinese? Then transfer all the documentation to the Chinese.
      2. NIKNN
        NIKNN 26 June 2016 12: 43
        +7
        "Su-34 ...... will be able to replace the Su-25 ..."
        He will be able to help, but why use a plane of such a cost as an attack aircraft over the battlefield ...
        Somewhere already tried to do this ...
        Even stranger to hear this from the commander of the VKS ...
        1. ty60
          ty60 26 June 2016 20: 42
          0
          As stormtroopers, the Rooks already need a replacement. But 34 is too much. Mass production, high efficiency, survivability and CHEAP! Consider significant losses.
        2. GSH-18
          GSH-18 27 June 2016 00: 38
          0
          Quote: NIKNN
          Even stranger to hear this from the commander of the VKS ...

          Do you consider yourself smarter than the commander of the VKS?
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 27 June 2016 00: 23
        0
        The manufacturer will serve the Su-34 bombers throughout their life cycle.

        In general, this trend in the Armed Forces and the defense industry was announced more than a year ago. And now it comes down to business good
        So it should be with complex, responsible and expensive equipment.
      4. GSH-18
        GSH-18 27 June 2016 00: 36
        0
        During operation, the Su-34 "proved to be from the finest side, it has a very good bomb load - 8 tons, excellent accuracy characteristics that allow it to work with a conventional bomb almost like a high-precision weapon"

        What can I say there? All new Sukhoi aircraft are technical perfection. The best in the country, if not the world! good
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 26 June 2016 09: 56
      +5
      Maintenance of equipment by the manufacturer is the best option for the development of production. Less intermediaries, less theft.
      1. parafoiler
        parafoiler 26 June 2016 10: 25
        -1
        Who told you that ?!
      2. Alex777
        Alex777 26 June 2016 10: 49
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        Maintenance of equipment by the manufacturer is the best option for the development of production. Less intermediaries, less theft.


        The point is not only in the middlemen, but also in the fact that under Serdyukov many engineers were fired from the army for "optimization".
        Therefore, in fact, there is simply no other way.
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    5. Irokez
      Irokez 26 June 2016 10: 18
      +4
      This "Duck" has cool glasses. Recently, all prominent figures are wearing glasses. )))
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 27 June 2016 00: 41
        +1
        Quote: Irokez
        This "Duck" has cool glasses. Recently, all prominent figures are wearing glasses. )))

        Sukhoi made a great duckling good
    6. cap
      cap 26 June 2016 11: 44
      +1
      Quote: Svoy_tovarish
      This device makes me the most enthusiastic sensation. This, as I understand it, is the best and most massive phenomenon in fighter aviation in modern Russia.


      I am not a pilot, but outwardly very beautiful. good
      And as they say in the Navy, and not only an ugly yacht (plane) will not sail (fly).
    7. GSH-18
      GSH-18 27 June 2016 00: 25
      +1
      The picture in the article is a hurricane! good
  2. Khariton
    Khariton 26 June 2016 09: 35
    +4
    All right! Still for our roads to introduce the same responsibility (and everything else too)))
  3. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 26 June 2016 09: 36
    +4
    Versatility has always been a hallmark of our technology. A handsome airplane!
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 26 June 2016 09: 43
      +2
      Quote: Alexander 3
      Versatility has always been a hallmark of our technology. A handsome airplane!

      And it does not look aggressive (they called him a duckling))))! In fact, a dangerous machine is very ...
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 26 June 2016 09: 38
    +4
    Amazingly successful car. And the idea of ​​escort by the manufacturer is welcome. No matter how I respect VKS technicians, the factory ones know the plane better.
    1. vv3
      vv3 26 June 2016 11: 47
      -1
      Successfully advanced concept of this aircraft. And how it is implemented or it will be implemented you don’t know, rejoice silently, looking at the beautiful picture .... Who do you respect and why it’s not interesting, you don’t understand anything about it. Who is fighting, maybe you are the factory ones? Then we all won already ... In general, this is not a forum, but a passage yard ... It is not interesting, some shelters and storytellers ....
  5. atamankko
    atamankko 26 June 2016 09: 40
    +2
    As the classic would say, "the solution is perfectly correct."
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 26 June 2016 09: 51
      0
      Just wondering how from Novosibirsk it is possible to ensure the reliability of an aircraft located, say, in Voronezh or Lipetsk? In the shelves, failures are eliminated by service groups, TECh, PARM. Or is it about the exchange of failure statistics, and the elimination of these "bottlenecks" at the plant? And what kind of mysterious representations? What are these structures? Who will work in them?
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 26 June 2016 11: 00
        +3
        Most likely, representative offices are branches of the plant, whose employees will carry out general supervision of the condition of the equipment, participating in its maintenance and directly transferring all the information to the center. In principle, nothing fundamentally new, for example, in the USSR, representatives of the design bureau designer periodically visited the ships of the Navy to track their condition and collect first-hand information.
      2. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 26 June 2016 11: 59
        0
        Quote: WUA 518
        Just wondering how from Novosibirsk it is possible to ensure the reliability of an aircraft located, say, in Voronezh or Lipetsk? In the shelves, failures are eliminated by service groups, TECh, PARM. Or is it about the exchange of failure statistics, and the elimination of these "bottlenecks" at the plant? And what kind of mysterious representations? What are these structures? Who will work in them?

        Perhaps they will organize mini dealerships and will send specialists for repairs. Perhaps organize hangars for those. services directly at the military base.
        1. WUA 518
          WUA 518 26 June 2016 12: 12
          +1
          Quote: Phantom Revolution
          will send specialists for repairs.

          Somehow, we sat down on the failure of the Su-27 (warranty). Specialists from the factory waited two weeks. Failures of various difficulty levels during flights are a very common occurrence, and were eliminated by IAS specialists. And if you wait for the factory, then the regiment will be on the ground in a month.
      3. ty60
        ty60 26 June 2016 20: 54
        0
        Apparently, by analogy with military envoys at production, industrialists will monitor the correct service in the TEC, PARM. It is no secret that the Russian maybe always intended to simplify the service. It would be wise to initially use part of the equipment in transcendental mode and with service at the level of active combat actions in isolation from the main bases, i.e. repair by improvised means. This is an additional identification of weaknesses during operation with the direct participation of the manufacturer and with his full control. The manufacturer is fully informed at any time. I see this. Someone will agree, someone will add and clarify hope
    2. vv3
      vv3 26 June 2016 11: 30
      +1
      The author is a storyteller and not of this world. Popular about his nonsense. 95 percent of serviceability is not serious, it is not harmful to want. On an airplane stuffed with electronics, remember which one, it's not real. Even taking into account that the malfunction of the weapons and guidance systems is always hushed up, leave this parameter at the Soviet level. Do you know what it was? Probably not. We can talk about 400 hours of flight time on an aircraft, but not in combat units and not with our level of preparation of airfields. Yes, and the equipment simply quickly exhausts its resource, we will be left without pants ... Now about the maintenance of factories, it is better not to touch the old system with levels of mutual control that you have not yet reached. If you do this, the real level of serviceability will decrease significantly and you will not find the guilty ones, and the level of technical staff will drop to "0". It is already weak, they are not taught anything in the academies, there are teachers who "have not seen the plane". We had such a system, but now it is much worse .. All proposals are not only harmful, but criminal and made by a complete delitant. The article was written by a stupid person who does not understand anything about aviation and, at best, could only be present in it.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 June 2016 09: 49
    +3
    in the future he maybe lifel will replace the Su-25, and we will come to the same line of various modifications of the Su-34

    Entering the "one line" is a good thing - it is both economy and homogeneous service and much more (experts can sort it out on the shelves). But for some reason it seems to me that the SU-25 will be in demand for a long time, the plane is too good and tenacious. And the Novosibirsk aircraft manufacturers can only wish good luck and good contracts.
    1. figwam
      figwam 26 June 2016 10: 13
      +4
      I do not think that the SU-34 will be able to replace the SU-25. In mountainous hills, subsonic, a small plane on the ground works better.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 26 June 2016 11: 25
        0
        rotmistr60
        SU-25 will be in demand for a long time, the airplane is too good and tenacious

        What I wrote about.
  7. hirurg
    hirurg 26 June 2016 09: 52
    +1
    Fine, and this should apply to all weapons. Prompt exchange of information and elimination of shortcomings (keep abreast of the pulse)
  8. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 26 June 2016 09: 53
    +1
    This is a very effective solution. Better than manufacturers, no one can support the technique.
  9. Barakuda
    Barakuda 26 June 2016 09: 54
    +2
    Russian Aerospace Forces and defense industry enterprises agreed

    And suddenly the war, but I did not drink tea. With whom then to negotiate if they cut off? negotiators. God forgive me ..
    Read the Security Council instructions .. But many members left, and not on Twitter at all ..
    Thank God we are Russian people, and without a pointer we’ll figure it out.
  10. V.ic
    V.ic 26 June 2016 10: 00
    +2
    "The groom agrees, the bride's parents - too, it remains to persuade the bride." /H.F. "Prisoner of the Caucasus /. Here are the enterprises are happy!" ERO-shniki "are delighted. There is only one question that interests me = at whose expense is the banquet?
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 26 June 2016 10: 09
      0
      Quote: V.ic
      "The groom agrees, the bride's parents - too, it remains to persuade the bride." /H.F. "Prisoner of the Caucasus /. Here are the enterprises are happy!" ERO-shniki "are delighted. There is only one question that interests me = at whose expense is the banquet?

      Understand .. Do not drive the liberal snowstorm! hi
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 26 June 2016 10: 37
        +1
        Quote: Chariton
        Understand ..

        They will not figure it out and are not going to figure it out, "not 37th year!" / remember a certain Anatoly Eduardovich and Madame "red slippers" /.
        Quote: Chariton
        ..Do not drive the liberal snowstorm!

        I have never sat next to Messrs. "Liebermans" on the same hectare. If you got in, try to yourself personally / and me too / to answer my question about "paying for the banquet." The state bought equipment for the state defense order from the "field". "Promyslo" paid from the money received and the execution of the order, banks, its managers, subcontractors ... and at the end of the chain (the last in the queue) hard workers. Now "to support the pants" it is necessary to draw a certain structure with proven logistics between the aircraft supplying plant and the Russian Aerospace Forces, this requires BIG money. For some reason, there is no extra money in nature anywhere. I look forward to your reply, you are our many-minded !. belay
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 26 June 2016 11: 04
          +1
          Quote: V.ic
          answer my question about "paying for the banquet"

          I do not quite understand - is it news for you that the equipment needs to be serviced and does it cost money?
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 26 June 2016 13: 51
            +1
            Quote: Dart2027
            I do not quite understand - is it news for you that the equipment needs to be serviced and does it cost money?

            Very succinctly expressed. This is probably from your big mind. I’d better hide for the allegory from Vysotsky:
            "Besides this shirt, Zin,
            You put on - one shame.
            Sewing will suit you arshin -
            Where is the money, Zin? .. "
            VSVysotsky "Dialogue at the TV".
            This is with Comrade. JV Stalin was that "Everything for the front! Everything for the victory!" Now everyone is for himself, everyone for himself and everyone for himself ... Mb. we will show you a patriotic initiative: we will unfasten a feasible contribution to this matter, by the way, the "civil pension" for May 2016 was not transferred to me / for the first time in the first class /, so I am ready to sacrifice it to solve the economic aspects of the issue in question ... its relevant department will find and transfer it to the appropriate account, but at the same time let the perpetrators return to me exactly 50% for my moral damage from not receiving the pension declared by the state. By the way, will you join the patriotic initiative?
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 26 June 2016 15: 00
              0
              Quote: V.ic
              Let the appropriate department find it and transfer it to the appropriate account, but at the same time, those responsible should return exactly 50% to me for my moral damage from not receiving the pension declared by the state. By the way, will you join the patriotic initiative?

              That is, you suggest not serving the aircraft, because it is expensive?
              1. V.ic
                V.ic 26 June 2016 16: 04
                +1
                Quote: Dart2027
                That is, you suggest not serving the aircraft, because it is expensive?

                "Airplanes come first ... and then the girls." And Ph. "Heavenly slug".
                "And that means we need one victory,
                One for all - we will not stand for the price. "
                And Ph. "Belorussky Railway Station".
                I offer you to help the state in an impossible task for him, and will you show me in stupidity? For what? What did I offer you to participate in a noble cause?
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 26 June 2016 19: 01
                  +1
                  Quote: V.ic
                  I offer you to help the state in an impossible task for him, and will you show me in stupidity? For what?

                  What is the offer? All I saw was the outrage at some delays in paying the pension to you personally. This is not good, but what does the maintenance of aircraft do with it?
  11. Berkut24
    Berkut24 26 June 2016 10: 03
    +2
    Photo interesting, respect to the author. Like an iron bird found feathers. In general, somehow historically it happened that in the USSR, and then Russia, airplanes have their own beauty. Americans believe that the plane should scare with all its appearance. Maybe that's why they have such a shortage of pilots, and monster-shaped bricks do not want to maneuver in close combat?
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 26 June 2016 10: 13
    +5
    The aircraft must be under warranty of the manufacturer's factory all the time of operation.
    1. Khariton
      Khariton 26 June 2016 10: 22
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      The aircraft must be under warranty of the manufacturer's factory all the time of operation.

      You need to "feel" the car (technicians will understand me) ... And at the factory they know all its weak points! hi
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 26 June 2016 11: 20
        +1
        Quote: Chariton
        You need to "feel" the car (technicians will understand me) ... And at the factory they know all its weak points!

        I think, nevertheless, this is a guarantee against strange external repairs and unsuccessful modernization without a license, which is actually not such a rare thing.
        It is possible to create a database of technical data for the analysis of each machine for the entire life cycle in one hand, which naturally will lead to the elimination of childhood diseases and a plan for a more thoughtful modernization of both individual units and the machine as a whole.
  13. voyaka23
    voyaka23 26 June 2016 10: 34
    +2
    in the rvsn the same system, and works efficiently. what d .. or minus the article set.
  14. KnightRider
    KnightRider 26 June 2016 10: 44
    +1
    A modern combat aircraft is a complex set of systems. To improve the serviceability and reliability of these systems, and hence their combat readiness, timely diagnostics and maintenance are needed, and the specialist performing these procedures should be a little engineer and technologist and designer at the same time.

    Su-34, Su-30SM, Su-35S are already in service and are intensively operated in units and even participate in hostilities, the time will come when they will require major repairs and modernization, and here you can not do without the help of development plants. Probably soon ARZ will be connected to them.
  15. Verdun
    Verdun 26 June 2016 10: 47
    0
    The manufacturer will serve the Su-34 bombers throughout their life cycle.
    In fact, it has always been normal to sell an aircraft with technical support - a service agreement and supply of spare parts. It was only in the "dashing nineties" that many Russian manufacturers switched to the system "I sold it to you, but serve it myself somehow." This approach was largely responsible for the drop in sales.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 26 June 2016 14: 02
      +1
      Quote: Verdun
      In fact, it has always been normal to sell an aircraft with technical support - a service agreement and supply of spare parts. It was only in the "dashing nineties" that many Russian manufacturers switched to the system "I sold it to you, but serve it myself somehow." This approach was largely responsible for the drop in sales.

      The thoughts are correct. This applies not only to aircraft, but to all products of our industry. There is a good book by NN Smelyakov, the former Deputy Minister of Foreign Trade of the USSR, "Lessons from Life." Unfortunately, he died long ago. But the problems of pre-sale preparation, service, spare parts are the same in one echoes the modern course of affairs. He even described how using our shortcomings, foreign companies earned a lot of money on the repair and maintenance of our equipment.
  16. Banishing liberoids
    Banishing liberoids 26 June 2016 10: 50
    +1
    In principle, this should be the case for all types of aircraft — otherwise we will lose confidence in us and our place on the world market! And by the way, what good news is stupidly minus for pepper — how much does the State Department pay for it?
  17. berezin1987
    berezin1987 26 June 2016 11: 03
    0
    Very nice plane. The old Su-24 should be retired, and the Su-25 too. Su-34 is able to replace two other aircraft at once. The aerodynamic design of the Su-27 is excellent, the pilots interact at a high level, there is an armored crew capsule, a large combat load and flight range, and powerful on-board electronics. This is not a complete list of the advantages of a duckling. Soon, the Su-34m should appear with updated electronic equipment, new engines from the Su-35.
  18. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 26 June 2016 12: 06
    0
    The decision is reasonable, but how it will work in the case of real combat use of aircraft, because all representatives of the plant are civilians and they are not comme il faut in the war, not thought out.
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 26 June 2016 12: 15
      0
      Quote: avg-mgn
      civil plant representatives

      Yes, in any case, they are not comme il faut. Every family has its own way of life, and you cannot drive them to the ends of the earth by the force of their orders.
    2. KnightRider
      KnightRider 26 June 2016 14: 00
      +1
      Quote: avg-mgn
      The decision is reasonable, but how it will work in the case of real combat use of aircraft, because all representatives of the plant are civilians and they are not comme il faut in the war, not thought out.

      On the basis of Khmeimim is full of civilians, including technical specialists from the defense industry industry.
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 27 June 2016 00: 42
        0
        Quote: KnightRider
        On the basis of Khmeimim is full of civilians, including technical specialists from the defense industry industry.

        Do you know for what money they are there?
        If you do not know, then I speak for the big ones, and many of them are very big.
  19. vv3
    vv3 26 June 2016 12: 27
    +4
    Most of the comments, except for a smile, do not cause anything. I consider myself "the last of the Mohicans." For about 10 years as a technical staff I served on the Sukhoi in the Soviet Air Force, then an adjunct and a teacher, deputy head of the department, almost the same time ... 2000 .... there was no one to work with and no one to teach ... I never bowed to anyone, the main thing is to clearly know who is responsible for what. Having studied almost all the documents on the organization of the educational process in higher military institutions, I was amazed at the level of democracy and opportunities , about which no one knows, and no one has ever seen the main documents ... The most interesting thing is that there are people in the VVUZ who do not know anything about real aviation, and do not know what to teach and how. They are strong in pure science and methodology, but I use my skills in vain, and the result of their work is graduates who know how to think and are simply educated people. As specialists they are zero, and in the Army only after 2 years they begin to be useful, and after 5 years, they can organize something and teach something. then. Then they begin to analyze and draw conclusions and propose. But by this time everyone is running away from there, and if they remain, then the weakest and most unpromising. Then these escaped semi-finished products teach other new specialists and move our science forward. This is our entire training system, except for some exceptions, but more on that another time ...
    1. ty60
      ty60 26 June 2016 21: 11
      0
      Your biography is understandable. You will be a gunner-radio operator, and in your soul a pilot! You will fly with a whistle backwards
  20. iouris
    iouris 26 June 2016 17: 53
    +3
    This is called an integrated logistics system (HLS). In world aviation, everyone has been working like this for about 20 years. Of course, it is impossible to ensure a combat readiness level of 0,90 without a plant.
    Until 1985, they worked like this in aviation, there was only enough, but the working week was 70 hours. It was the Ministry of Aviation Industry.
    In the 1990s, the "golden" time came when, by order of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, serviceability was established at the level of 0,20, and the working day lasted until 13 hours with two days off.
    The relative novelty is that the plant works as if the warranty period has not expired.
    In my opinion, the solution has some advantages, the only drawback is that it does not work without financing.
  21. Stoler
    Stoler 27 June 2016 07: 19
    -2
    "The manufacturer will service the Su-34 bombers throughout their entire life cycle" - Don't get it? And who was supposed to serve them ?? Uncle Petya ??!