The attack on Rakka and the message of Moscow

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With the support of the Russian aviation the Syrian army recently crossed the border of the province of Raqqa. Recall that the provincial capital, the city of Raqqa, is considered the "capital" of the jihadist Islamic State. Experts believe that Rakku may possibly be freed from militants in the coming months.



The reports from the Syrian front are briefly as follows.

Last Saturday, the Syrian army crossed the border of the province of Rakka. As foreign and Russian media reported, the Assad offensive was supported by Russian aviation, which caused serious damage to terrorists near the provincial border in the eastern districts of Hama province. After the attacks, on Friday, the Assad army reached the borders of Raqqah, and on Saturday already crossed the province's border. The Syrian Council for the Supervision of Human Rights reported the start of the fighting in Rakke.

The city of Rakka is the actual capital of the Islamic State militants. Therefore, success here could be regarded as a decisive, crucial battle throughout the Syrian war. It would be the biggest victory over the terrorists who proclaimed the “caliphate”.

Apart from the Assad army, the Kurdish units (“Syrian Democratic Forces”) are attacking the Raqqa together with the Arab “opposition groups”. Recall that these forces are supported by the United States.

The Syrian Democratic Forces are now conducting an operation to capture the towns of Tabka, Manbij and Raqqa. One of the key targets on the way is Manbij, because this city, located between the provincial capital and the Syrian-Turkish border, is likely to be supplied weapons to rakku.

Residents of Manbij told the channel "RT" about the orders that are established in the city of Islamists. The “Syrian Democratic Forces” managed to save thousands of refugees from the vicinity of Manbij and Mascana. Now they have taken refuge in the village of Tal-Arsh and can share memories with journalists.

“We were liberated by the Syrian Democratic Forces. I hope the Islamists will no longer torment us. They did not let us out of the city, they killed people. They did not allow us to smoke and forced us to grow beards, ”says one refugee.

“Civilians suffer from Islamist atrocities.” See for yourself what's going on here! All this because of the "Islamic State", which in fact has nothing to do with Islam. Take a look how people are exhausted. They have no water, they have lost their homes. Terrorists are to blame for our troubles. We will free the entire territory of Syria from them, ”said the fighter from the military committee of Manbij.

As for the serious threat to the "IG", it is still not represented by the "Democratic Forces" but by the Assad army and the actions of Russia. According to the Al-Mayadin television channel based in Lebanon, to which the newspaper refers Kommersant, Assad forces have already captured a transport hub in the village of Zakia and are developing an offensive against Tabku (there is a military airfield and a dam on the Euphrates near this city). If the army captures Tabku, the direct road to Raqqu (40 km) will be opened further. Now the army units of the Desert Eagles are moving in the forefront of the advancing forces.

Neither in Damascus, nor in Moscow, nor in Washington, the newspaper notes, they do not officially confirm that the anti-terrorist coalitions (Russian-Syrian and American) are coordinating their actions in Rakka. However, military experts believe this option is likely. According to military sources of Kommersant, the aerospace forces of the Russian Federation are giving Syrian troops serious support: after all, it was the actions of the Russian aviation that allowed the government forces to advance and actually opened the way to Tabka.

“The selection of targets is made on the basis of data from space and human intelligence, and the actions of the Syrian army are coordinated with our military advisers,” an unnamed source told the newspaper. - We made contact with the American-led coalition, but we cannot talk about joint planning of operations. We proposed this, but the United States does not want to fully cooperate with us. ”

It is possible that Rakku will be able to take in the coming months, said BFM.ru Vladimir Isaev, a professor at the Institute of Asian and African Studies of Moscow State University.

“The Syrian army and Kurds hit the Raqqah area and took several commanding heights, thus ensuring, of course, the approaches of the Syrian regular army. And, naturally, we have provided great support, our VKS after a sufficiently long break struck several serious blows to the Islamists' positions, the expert noted. “If the Kurds and the army of Damascus coordinate their efforts with each other and with us, Raqqah can be taken before the end of the summer.” Moreover, according to Lavrov, we finally achieved coordination with the United States. So that our air forces, God forbid, do not collide somewhere in the air. And now they are defining areas that we could bomb with sufficient success, without irritating our, as they say, western partners about who we regard as moderate and moderate opposition. ”

On the Al-Jazeera Interesting comments appeared about the “messages” sent by Russia to the world community.

In recent days, correspondent Zeina Khodr (Zeina Khodr) counted as many as three messages to the Americans concerning the situation in Syria.

First, the Al-Nusra Front, linked to Al-Qaida, is accused of trying to endanger a truce. This terrorist group today is active in Aleppo and Idlib, which is the main obstacle to the further cessation of hostilities, the TV channel reports the Russian Defense Ministry.

Secondly, the United States is accused by the Russians of not being able to separate the “moderate opposition groups” that the Americans control from the terrorists. And if so, the further postponement by the “American partners” of the corresponding efforts not only discredits the so-called moderate opposition, but also leads to the collapse of the peace process.

And thirdly, the Turkish border is still used to smuggle weapons to terrorists in Syria. The Russian defense ministry insists that the number of heavy trucks moving from the Turkish-Syrian border has "increased significantly."

Such “messages” came from Moscow in response to Washington’s refusal to accept the Kremlin’s offer to cooperate in the fight against terrorism in Syria. The Russian authorities "do not hide their displeasure," the journalist said. She believes that the Russians are most likely to “pave the way” for a large-scale offensive against the Al-Nusra Front. It is not for nothing that pro-Kremlin media in Russia write about “deeper understanding and closer cooperation” between the governments of Russia, Syria and Iran. In addition, the air force of the Russian Federation "clearly increased its participation" in the Syrian war. However, the “battle has just begun,” said an Arab journalist.

And already there are assumptions about building up the military forces of Russia in Syria.

“Against this background, conversations in the expert community and the media that the Russian military presence in Syria may be increased,” said A. Mardasov on the website. "Free Press". - Firstly, the mixed grouping at Hmeimim airbase can be replenished with a certain number of front bombers Su-24M and Su-34. Secondly, additional special forces detachments may be deployed to the SAR, as well as the formation of volunteers or, as they are called, "pilgrims."

“The Americans and the Kurds apparently overestimated their strength, so they had to change direction and now claim that the attack on Manbidge turned out to be more important,” Alexander Khramchikhin, deputy director of the Institute for Political and Military Analysis, said in an interview with SP. - As for the government army, it is clear that she does not have enough strength to storm Rakka. And in this sense, building up Russian military assistance in Syria would look logical. If we already started to participate in this war, then it needs to be finished more or less successfully. True, in our time it is difficult to say what the criteria for success are, since now the wars are postmodern. Many believe that it is more important to declare yourself a winner than to win in reality. However, in addition to the media image, there is also a certain reality that must be followed, and it dictates the buildup of Russian aid "on the ground." I repeat, if we were involved in a war, then it must be completed successfully, otherwise it will be difficult to imagine such a thing, despite all the efforts of propagandists. ”

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This suggests several preliminary conclusions.

Firstly, in the struggle of the Syrian forces against the “Islamic State”, a probable turning point is brewing.

Secondly, active support by the Russian Assad army is obvious. And it may well be that this support will be increased in the near future.

Thirdly, for the first time in one way or another, the two antiterrorist coalitions (the American and the Russian-Syrian coalition) are coordinating efforts to counter the IG militants in Rakka. If two coalitions achieve the same goal, then it is absolutely clear that without coordination its achievement will be impossible.

Fourthly, a probable summer victory over terrorists in the province of Raqqah and the capture of the city of the same name would mark the beginning of the end of the self-styled “caliphate”.

We wish the Syrian army victory in Rakka and the complete defeat of the outraged caliphates!

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  1. PKK
    +14
    8 June 2016 05: 37
    The Igilovsky beast is restless, it climbs, they urinate it, it climbs again. It needs some other weapon, stronger. And then the Igilovites are not afraid of ordinary parishes.
    1. +50
      8 June 2016 06: 15
      You do not like this storming of Berlin? Similarly, on both sides, essentially competing parties are coming.
      I think that if the Americans capture Raqqu earlier, they will not allow government troops to go there.
      1. +33
        8 June 2016 06: 30
        Quote: Sharapov
        You do not like this storming of Berlin? Similarly, on both sides, essentially competing parties are coming.

        Precisely, I wanted to write just that myself. Only modern Syria (in contrast to Germany after WW2) should be left as a single country. I'll try to wangganut: when the complete defeat of IS is complete, our Western "partners" will start talking about the division of Syria (by analogy with the GDR and the FRG).
        1. +8
          8 June 2016 10: 46
          Quote: Karasik
          Quote: Sharapov
          You do not like this storming of Berlin? Similarly, on both sides, essentially competing parties are coming.

          Precisely, I wanted to write just that myself. Only modern Syria (in contrast to Germany after WW2) should be left as a single country. I'll try to wangganut: when the complete defeat of IS is complete, our Western "partners" will start talking about the division of Syria (by analogy with the GDR and the FRG).

          If the question of the division of Turkey is brought to the first place, then the question of the division of Syria will not even be secondary ... The war in the BV will not soon end, but it will end with just such a scenario ... IMHO.
          1. +3
            10 June 2016 00: 05
            Quote: bovig
            If the question of the division of Turkey is brought to the first place, then the question of the division of Syria will not even be secondary ... The war in the BV will not soon end, but it will end with just such a scenario ... IMHO.

            but do not you think that Turkey is now but it is worth aligning with Syria? after the well-known case, Russia does not care about the fate of turland smile it’s possible to grow your own tomatoes and dd, theirs are all included to us like a bone in the throat, and Syria, so there oil and Assad still have to give debts to us fellow and if it is divided, then the oil may not be there, and they still have to rebuild the country laughing and our policy seems to be like integrity and therefore Lavrov with a brick face will hammer it into the world community and "partners" and perhaps partners are therefore rattling pieces of iron near our border lol they would have to shoot on video that they make 30t hailstones with the territory and the size of the area dug up then they would have caught them somewhere in the Atlantic Sea laughing therefore, Putin will silently bend his own and seem to whip bully
        2. +3
          8 June 2016 15: 52
          Now the Kurds, the so-called. moderate opposition and government forces have a single enemy - ISIS. So the big question is: what will start when they overwhelm this enemy? And the conversations of the "partners" are one part of the ballet, and the other is the internal problems of Syria itself. It's hard to believe in a peaceful dialogue.
          1. +3
            9 June 2016 01: 22
            But after the victory over ISIS, on the contrary, this issue will be solved more simply, a variant of confederation is possible, but the main thing ISIS which mimics like a virus should not be divisions into our terrorists and not ours!
        3. +3
          9 June 2016 12: 04
          Quote: Karasik
          Exactly, I wanted to write just that

          I agree with everything and an extremely successful comparison with Nazi Germany. The main similarity is that both Hitler and ISIS were a project of the Saxons, who first give them free rein, and then, when the offspring scoop up the Lyuli, ascribe victory to themselves and take the fruits.
          So talking about cooperation with the Yankees is basically meaningless, i.e. You can not cooperate with those who oversees the igil. The point is to attract amers to at least some responsibility and tie their hands together through joint agreements.
          While ISIS successfully endured Syria and Iraq, the Americans quietly bombed the excavators when the tipping point came and they were forced to wet the ter because all cameras of all media are riveted to this issue: it is difficult to hide the truth, but the truth lies at the heart of the entire Saxon worldview.

          Quote: PKK
          The Igilovsky restless beast, climbs, they urinate him, again climbs

          Regarding the replenishment of a number of terrorists: ISIS is very well paid, especially by the standards of BV. And if you look at the region, it becomes clear: the Amerians first gouged Iraq, Libya, Algeria is in a fever, and this all leads to the impoverishment of the population of these countries. Arab families are extremely large, men often have nothing to feed their families, it’s not like we have black soil everywhere, you can’t grow potatoes in the sand, you have to go to mercenaries + brainwashing + dibs and you get thousands of terrorists who just work for someone who pays.
          I'm not trying to justify them, just showing how it works. And you can wet them indefinitely, this is not a panacea.
          It’s better to arrange for their patron such problems when he is not up to the terrorists!
        4. +1
          9 June 2016 17: 27
          Well stopudov so be it. This time, the Americans do not lie down as in Berlin and agree with the black flags on the surrender of Raqqa.
          if there were good negotiating experts in Russia, one could make a lot of money on this topic, even if the Americans drained the barbecue of Racca. As an example, the section of Ukraine. Yes, and in the conflict between Kurds and Turks, they could play. Unfortunately, even with the most successful result - two years later, all the problems of Syria and its peoples will be blamed on Russia. Not necessarily financially, but they will kick Russia for all the crimes of barmaley and Americans
        5. +2
          9 June 2016 23: 43
          Quote: Karasik
          I'll try to wangganut: when the complete defeat of IS is complete, our Western "partners" will start talking about the division of Syria (by analogy with the GDR and the FRG).

          GDP is silent, it means "partners" will break their teeth about Syrian horseradish laughing damn the tooth would give yes little is left recourse laughing
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      3. +19
        8 June 2016 07: 33
        Ameripedov is not officially there. If they capture, then only the Kurds. And that is unlikely. Even if this happens, the Kurds will have to move forward, the government troops will not particularly ask them. I think the delay in the offensive is only due to throwing mattresses between smart and beautiful.
        But it is not clear - why are we exchanging and looking back at mattresses? Watering all barmaleys indiscriminately and without respite - we have only one way.
      4. +5
        8 June 2016 07: 57
        Quote: Sharapov
        I think that if the Americans capture Raqqu earlier, they will not allow government troops to go there.

        There are no Americans there. Kurds attack from the east.
        1. -14
          8 June 2016 11: 09
          I look at the article and at the first photo. The photograph is not from Syria at all. Or who is fighting there for Syria? This can be considered a lie, or, at best, an editor’s mistake. And maybe enemy propaganda. Incompetence or order kills faith in the media. And the worst thing is in the Russian media.
          1. 0
            9 June 2016 05: 33
            Photo not at all from Syria
            Where from?
            1. +1
              10 June 2016 07: 15
              Quote: aleks700
              Where from?

              Libya 2012 year.
              http://www.almokhtsar.com/node/78711
        2. +1
          8 June 2016 16: 10
          And who then recently sewed Kurdish chevrons? After this scandal, Turkey committed America. It seems that the forum even wrote about it ...
      5. +7
        8 June 2016 08: 39
        the way it is. The United States planned to completely take over Syria after ISIS took it, but the Russians were forced to be content with only a small part. Then the United States will create there its own region of influence with its people in power and its base. This will be a counterweight to the Russian base.
      6. +8
        8 June 2016 10: 39
        Quote: Sharapov
        You do not like this storming of Berlin? Similarly, on both sides, essentially competing parties are coming.
        I think that if the Americans capture Raqqu earlier, they will not allow government troops to go there.

        That is why the operation of the Russian-Syrian coalition to storm Raqqa was accelerated. I only doubt that the Kurds and the Amers will have enough of their strength and capabilities, and they (the Americans) started this operation in order to divert large forces of the SAA and the Russian Aerospace Forces from the northwest direction ... While the issue with the capital ISIS is being resolved, it will strengthen on the northwestern border with Turkey is a springboard for the "moderate opposition". The Americans will not give up the Syrian Kurdish territories just like that ... So it turns out that the US intentions are to preserve instability by any means, with all that it implies ... Yes, it is impossible to achieve a real victory with the help of propaganda, but you can successfully prevent others from achieving it .. On this front, you need to get them to join their own sh * t to the most stars and stripes ears ...
      7. -15
        8 June 2016 11: 15
        This storm of Berlin does not remind me. I was not born then. Yes, and you, probably, too.
        Someone from the great said. Living with an eye to the past - helps to avoid the mistakes of the past, but does not allow you to go forward. Although, humanity loves to repeat their mistakes.
        1. +11
          8 June 2016 16: 20
          Quote: hrad
          This storm of Berlin does not remind me. I was not born then.
          So, for you, world history begins with the date of your birth? It seems that Western politicians profess the same principle. It is they who are the arsonists of the Middle East. Their "Arab Spring" which Obama and the smaller European rodents applauded so much --- look at what it turned into, what rampant anarchy and extrajudicial violence.
          Meanwhile, they were repeatedly warned how such games end.
      8. +2
        8 June 2016 11: 57
        They will let you in, they will let you in. Himself think the Kurds need it? will the Kurds fight for amers with Assad? are Kurds ready to die for Raqqa? And "moderate oppositionists" with a gulkin nose. So my guess is that the SAA will still be storming.
        1. 0
          9 June 2016 06: 23
          They’ll let me go, even as they let me go. Think Kurds do you need it? will the Kurds fight with Assad Assad? are the Kurds ready to die for Raqqa?
          They will fight with Assad. Die for Racca? Question.
          1. 0
            10 June 2016 15: 17
            Kurds hate Assad
        2. +3
          9 June 2016 06: 43
          Kurds are ready to fight for their own state. This is a fix idea for all Kurds to create an independent Kurdistan. And this is a problem of both Syria and Turkey and Iraq. Independence must be defended, so the Kurds will not retreat.
      9. +4
        8 June 2016 12: 19
        Quote: Sharapov
        You do not like this storming of Berlin? Similarly, on both sides, essentially competing parties are coming.
        I think that if the Americans capture Raqqu earlier, they will not allow government troops to go there.

        ----------------------------
        On the part of the coalition, the "offensive on Raqqa" was completely operetta, something of the order of a thousand people, give or take, 500 Kurdish YPG fighters and about the same number of Amer-Marines with patches of the same YPG. They tried to attack the 15-thousandth fortified garrison of ISIS, which dispersed them like a squirrel bear. Also, the United States called on the Russian Aerospace Forces to "more accurately strike at ISIS" in Aleppo and other places, as there are the same 500 special forces instructors hanging out among the "opposition". And Assad's army is not acting quite steadily and harmoniously, leaving positions. In general, all parties have problems. ISIS is not a whipping boy either.
      10. +1
        8 June 2016 20: 59
        Quote: Sharapov
        I think that if the Americans capture Raqqu earlier, they will not allow government troops to go there.

        - and if not captured, they will try to organize "western", no, more precisely, "eastern Raqqa", in the middle of Raqqa they will erect a concrete fence, and Assad will rename his special services to "Stasi")))))
      11. +1
        9 June 2016 01: 16
        If you haven't noticed, then the Kurds are advancing on Raqqa and the Americans are behind them, only the Kurds do not really want this to the Americans, nothing shines, but I think the government air force needs to bomb the American bases in Syria, and then make a stupid face - "like they made a mistake!"
    2. +23
      8 June 2016 07: 48
      1. The available CAA forces are not enough to storm Raqqi.
      2. The Kurds have already stopped their attack on Raqqa. They should at least take Manbij. So no comparison with Berlin.
      3. It is too early to talk about any end of the IG. It operates quite successfully under Deir ez-Zor, Fallujah (where up to 100 Iraqi soldiers die every day), a recent offensive on the Turkish border has shown that it is able to resist.
      1. +10
        8 June 2016 08: 58
        Quote: Deniska999
        1. The available CAA forces are not enough to storm Raqqi.


        Not only parts of the SAA are coming, but also Opplets from various paramilitary groups.
        In total, about 5000 soldiers from the Desert Hawks Brigade, the Golan Regiment, the Syrian Marines, the 550th Regiment of the 4th Mechanized Division of the SAR Armed Forces and separate party battalions of Al-Baath take part in the operation.

        The column is somewhere along the way to Tabka / Raqqa.

        T-90A.
      2. +6
        8 June 2016 09: 42
        Quote: Deniska999
        1. The available CAA forces are not enough to storm Raqqi.


        Maybe not enough.

        In the offensive on Raqqa, about 5000 soldiers from the Desert Hawks Brigade, the Golan Regiment, the Syrian Marines, the 550th Regiment of the 4th Mechanized Division of the SAR Armed Forces and individual party battalions of Al-Baath take part.

        T-90A.
        1. +2
          8 June 2016 10: 04
          Quote: cosmos111
          In the offensive on Raqqa, about 5000 soldiers from the Desert Hawks Brigade, the Golan Regiment, the Syrian Marines, the 550th Regiment of the 4th Mechanized Division of the SAR Armed Forces and individual party battalions of Al-Baath take part.

          5000 soldiers 200 thousandth Raqqa will not revolt, alas, but you still have to get to it. It is necessary 50000, for the blockade, the assault and the protection of the stretched communications during the blockade
          1. +1
            8 June 2016 16: 06
            ...... October 18, for military distinctions, Skobelev was promoted to major general. In the same month, he was left in the Namangan department as a commander with 3 battalions, 5½ hundred and 12 guns. He was ordered to “act strategically defensively,” that is, without going beyond the possessions of the Russian Empire. But circumstances forced him to act differently. Subversive elements constantly penetrated the area; in the Namangan department an almost continuous small war ensued: uprisings broke out in the Tyur-Kurgan, then in Namangan. Skobelev constantly suppressed attempts by Kokandans to cross the border. So on October 23, he defeated the Batyr-Tyur detachment at the Tyur-Kurgan, then hastened to help the Namangan garrison, and on November 12 defeated up to 20 enemies from Balykchi ....

            It may not be the best example, but there are many
            Quote from Wikipedia. How really everything happened, you can only guess)
    3. +6
      8 June 2016 08: 18
      Quote: PKK
      The Igilovsky beast is restless, it climbs, they urinate it, it climbs again. You need some other weapon, stronger. And then the Igilovites are not afraid of ordinary parishes


      “Today, IS militants attempted to stop the Syrian army's offensive in Raqqa. The battle lasted for several hours. The terrorists used heavy equipment, including tanks and rocket launchers. The Syrian fighters held back the enemy, and then, after the air support provided by the Russian Aerospace Forces, launched a counterattack. After the end of the fierce battle, while pursuing IS militants, Army men seized rich trophies, thrown by militants a T-55 tank and BM-21 MLRS "Grad" at the base of KRAZ, as well as a lot of light weapons.
      Free-News News Source: "

      The main thing is that if there were enough forces to storm the city itself.

      T-90, on the way to Tabka / Raqqa.
    4. +10
      8 June 2016 08: 30
      an interesting similarity between the Ishilovites and the militants in Chechnya, so the tactics and the conduct of defensive actions is suspiciously similar, the same tunnels between houses, etc. ... and it’s known for sure that the work of American instructors is in Chechnya. And these creatures are climbing from Turkey. recently, intelligence showed a large influx of trucks from Turkey to the Ishilovites
    5. +10
      8 June 2016 09: 12
      Al-Nusra Front, linked to al-Qaida, is accused of trying to jeopardize a truce. This terrorist group is active today in Aleppo and Idlib, which is the main obstacle to the further cessation of hostilities, the Russian Defense Ministry reports.


      I don’t understand how the Front al-Nusra is said in all the media that it violates the ceasefire when the Front al-Nusra is considered a terrorist organization and it is recognized by the UN and Russia said that this regime will not be against terrorist organizations spread and we will destroy them, then why is it a violation of the truce when it is a terrorist organization and a priori no one should not agree on a truce, but simply silently destroy it, that’s a lot of questions for our media and not only
      1. 0
        8 June 2016 13: 42
        It just sounds better.
    6. +1
      8 June 2016 10: 58
      The hegemon bit her bit, until all the jackals think of him as lions.
  2. +2
    8 June 2016 05: 39
    "For the first time, they are coordinating efforts to counter IS militants in Raqqa in one way or another."
    Something tells me that "Friendly bombing" of the SR army will begin now.
    1. +2
      8 June 2016 05: 54
      Dear, the bombing is unlikely, because our aviation is there, but "friendly shelling, that's for sure", while everything will be blamed on scattered detachments of militants, it's different, no matter how it was like a military unit, when all forces were thrown to the Eastern Front and opened and surrendered to the allies, and they hid them
      1. 0
        8 June 2016 07: 06
        Explain to me someone, what prevents to weld on old Syrian tanks "pins", on which the DZ is then attached?
        1. +5
          8 June 2016 08: 14
          Explain to me someone, what prevents to weld on old Syrian tanks "pins", on which the DZ is then attached?

          "Pins" can be welded. But will there be any sense from such a "modernization" of old Syrian tanks? And where to get the DZ blocks themselves. In any case, a comprehensive modernization of tanks will be required. And this is possible only in the factory.
          As for the offensive of the Syrian army on Raqqa - on the Internet and in the news blocks of TV, it has more than once been reported about the offensives of the Syrian army with "decisive goals" and the upcoming "defeat" of IS militants, and as a result, everything turns into protracted battles.
          I am sure that the Syrian army, with the support of the Russian air forces and acting together (common goals) with the Kurds, will ultimately defeat Daesh-ISIS. Unless the United States and the Saudis arrange the Middle East version of Minsk (or Khasavyurt) when the Syrian army is stopped literally at the last step from the final victory.
          We wish the Syrian army victory in Rakka and the complete defeat of the outraged caliphates!
          - I join.
          1. +3
            8 June 2016 09: 39
            Quote: Alexander72
            Unless the United States and the Saudis arrange the Middle East version of Minsk (or Khasavyurt) when the Syrian army is stopped literally at the last step from the final victory.

            The initiator of the Minsk agreement was exclusively Moscow. It was Putin, not the United States, who proposed to limit himself to Donbas, first by defeating in Ilovaisk, then by Debaltseve’s victory! Even if the United States were the initiator of the army stop (as was the case in Georgia 080808), nothing prevents you from paying attention to such proposals! You noticed that we always want to agree with the United States, and not they with us, they prefer only to indicate.
            1. +2
              8 June 2016 10: 06
              Quote: Stas157
              You noticed that we always want to agree with the United States, and not they with us, they prefer only to indicate.
              Local favorite Zakharov, always claims the opposite hi
              “If everyone first calls to Washington, then Washington then calls to Moscow.”
              1. +5
                8 June 2016 11: 07
                Quote: Stirbjorn
                Local favorite Zakharov, always claims the opposite

                I really like Maria Vladimirovna, but I’m afraid in this case she gives the wish for the reality, because in addition to her words, there is practically no evidence for this. And, if there are, then these are exceptions, not the rule. And, here is the fact that Moscow all the time wants to agree on something with Washington, more than enough! Example, Minsk agreements. Or in Syria, it is Moscow that is constantly trying to attract Washington to the coalition! Ah, he does not go! And he’s not taking it into his coalition. Even from the same article, take:
                We have made contact with the American-led coalition, but we cannot speak of joint planning of operations. We proposed this, but the United States does not want to fully cooperate with us.

                Moscow offers, but the US does not want ...
                Personally, I do not like this, all the time, looking to the West. Eternal negotiations ... One thing is obvious, the opinion of the West is very important for Moscow!
      2. 0
        9 June 2016 10: 57
        The situation near Racca reminds me of VM itself: it is also coordination without joint action. There we also had to work mostly
  3. +2
    8 June 2016 06: 05
    Those. Kurds and I aren’t talking at all now ?! They, it seems, even opened their own representative office with us. Explain who is in the subject ...
    1. +8
      8 June 2016 07: 03
      Those. Kurds and I aren’t talking at all now ?! They, it seems, even opened their own representative office with us. Explain who is in the subject ...
      Kurds are different for Kurds, different groups do not even contact each other ....
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    3. +5
      8 June 2016 07: 18
      It seems that the Americans decided to play the Kurdish card. They can promise them broad autonomy in Syria, little dependent on the center, but managed by the United States. In this way, they will receive pressure on both Assad and Erdogan. But how the situation actually develops, one does not have to guess. Too many interests in this tangle are tied.
  4. +5
    8 June 2016 06: 09
    The "race" on Raku, both from the Kurds and from the pro-Assod forces, is already beginning to strain. The offensive there goes along the roads, as in the good old days. It is enough to accumulate strength and guess the moment and repeat the history that we recently observed in Ukraine. So, luck is good luck, but as the saying goes, "trust in God, but do not make a mistake yourself."
    Constant active intelligence, the availability of ready-to-maneuverable reserves, this is a small thing that should not be forgotten.
    1. +3
      8 June 2016 06: 20
      accumulation of forces in a desert area under the domination of aviation by the Syrian army is problematic!
      1. +2
        8 June 2016 10: 11
        which did not prevent the elevators from periodically cutting off the CAA supply route near Aleppo near Hanasser. And here the communications are even more extended, and the offensive is being conducted by very limited forces (5000)
  5. +14
    8 June 2016 06: 16
    Off topic, but Netanyahu often frequented something in Moscow. This time they write that agreements have been signed under which the number of Israelis receiving a Russian pension will almost double. They left for me - so left.
    1. +13
      8 June 2016 06: 46
      If a person immigrated and became a citizen of another country, then what does he have to do with Russia. It’s necessary to cancel dual citizenship for a long time, received a passport of another country, then automatically deprive of Russian citizenship
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  6. +15
    8 June 2016 06: 21
    "They forbade us to smoke and forced us to grow beards ..." What, there is nothing more to blame for these animals?
    1. +2
      8 June 2016 11: 49
      Do not understand. The Great Tsar, Peter I, made the boyars of the beard shave (chop) and smoke tobacco and go to assemblies in Dutch wigs and dresses
  7. +1
    8 June 2016 06: 39
    Secondly, additional special forces units, as well as volunteer groups or, as they are called, “pilgrims”, can be deployed to the SAR.

    Is Russia getting involved in ground operations? Behind this beginning is inevitable continuation.
    1. +2
      8 June 2016 11: 07
      Quote: Michael m
      Secondly, additional special forces units, as well as volunteer groups or, as they are called, “pilgrims”, can be deployed to the SAR.

      Is Russia getting involved in ground operations? Behind this beginning is inevitable continuation.

      It should be noted that at the moment the whole world is on the verge of a grandiose chucker!))) No one will get away ... So, I entered with one foot - get ready to enter waist-high ...
      Why do Americans always fight on foreign soil? And so that you don't have to fight on your own! Even a defeat on a foreign territory does not lead to a catastrophe and the disintegration of the state, if the "elite" of the country does not want it ...
  8. +6
    8 June 2016 07: 22
    They didn’t allow us to smoke and forced us to grow beards.

    Yes, just for that .. I would have everyone in the loop.
    1. +5
      8 June 2016 07: 44
      Quote: Barracuda
      Yes, just for that .. I would have everyone in the loop.

      And if for this they promise eternal bliss in paradise with the houris, but right now they will "give" several young Christian women, give "Kalash" and the right to kill those who do not want to "quit smoking and grow a beard", and also take away their goods and women? Moreover, they can pay for it either with a "green candy wrapper" or a full-fledged gold dinar DAISH


      In the same place, everything is on the most "base animal instincts"
  9. +3
    8 June 2016 07: 29
    I repeat, if we got involved in the war, then it must be finished successfully, otherwise it will be difficult to imagine it, in spite of all the efforts of the propagandists. ”

    Hello Oleg.
    Indeed, the most sensible decision is to bring things to the end. But this will require a very, very many resources of all kinds, for the successful completion of the task.
    1. +1
      8 June 2016 08: 02
      Quote: aszzz888
      Indeed, the most sensible decision is to bring things to the end. But this will require a very, very many resources of all kinds, for the successful completion of the task.

      hi And the most important resources, as indicated in the article, are replenished by Russia
      First, a mixed group at the Khmeimim airbase can be replenished with a certain number of front-line bombers Su-24M and Su-34. Secondly, additional special forces units, as well as volunteer groups or, as they are called, “pilgrims”, can be deployed to the SAR.

      Of course, "pilgrims" ... Apparently, to the holy places. bully Smiled ... fellow
  10. +4
    8 June 2016 07: 41
    We wish the Syrian army victory in Rakka and the complete defeat of the outraged caliphates!..But this is the first stage .. the liberation of all cities captured by IS, but IS will not calm down .. will conduct guerrilla actions .. Yes, and "moderate" terrorists will not subside ..
  11. +3
    8 June 2016 08: 13
    I'm talking about something else: Don't you think that another Boeing will soon "fall" into the sea, and this time Anglo-Saxon (American, English, Canadian)? Note that as soon as one of the parties becomes more active and begins to "strengthen its position" in the future section of the "pie" - the legacy of ISIS, is there a terrorist attack with an airplane? And behind each of these "acts of anti-humanity" protrude the ears of brothers - Muslims and ... Turkey with the KSA and Qatar? I believe that it will not be long - until November at the most (before the US elections! The Americans are also in a hurry to "win" primarily with a purely political goal both "for domestic consumption" and for foreign policy "authority"! So let's wait - it will soon become quite interesting - the "MOMENT OF TRUTH" is coming!
  12. +4
    8 June 2016 08: 15
    There is no independent ISIS. The Turkish military personnel are fighting in the ranks of Daesh. All parties involved in the conflict pursue their own goals. Turkey, as a member of NATO, has its own separate policy. Erdogan operates a Va-Bank. The Su-24 incident showed that the Americans, as always, are invading, and if something happens, they wash their hands. Turkey does not threaten EU accession. The United States needs a puppet state, therefore they are promoting the Kurds. Oil and gas transportation routes. Persian Gulf monarchies actively support ISIS and the so-called moderate. Only in what are they moderate. For Russia it is important to keep the Middle East from the big bang in which both Syria and Iran, and there also Central Asia, will perish. And the entire structure of the CSTO is held by the Russian VS. East is a delicate Petruha ..... The ball is so tied and intertwined.
    1. +1
      8 June 2016 14: 54
      You're right. ISIS is a product of the CIA (like al-Qaeda), Turkish MIT + Saudi money.
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  13. +2
    8 June 2016 08: 44
    stripes vseravno will spoil, on trifles, but they will certainly, about the Turks there is generally a separate question for the UN, you see absolutely the old one doesn’t hear it.

    Good luck to the VKS, our special forces and the Syrian army, and give GOD!
  14. +1
    8 June 2016 08: 52
    But I'm talking about something else: I'm talking about airplanes? As soon as one of the sides of the anti-ISIS coalitions begins to intensify its onslaught, a terrorist attack takes place with an airplane - now in turn the Anglo-Saxon (American, English, Canadian)? I suppose there is not long to wait, literally until November (before the US elections), for the next Boeing to "fall" into the sea or the desert? And behind all these "falls" are protruding the ears of brothers - Muslims with the support of ... Turkey, KSA and Qatar! I believe that the MOMENT OF TRUTH is coming - the masks have been dropped, the terrorists - to the barrier !!!
  15. +1
    8 June 2016 09: 38
    Secondly, additional special forces units, as well as volunteer groups or, as they are called, “pilgrims”, can be deployed to the SAR.

    Is Russia getting involved in ground operations? Behind this beginning is inevitable continuation.
    Yes, we actually did not "stretch out" from there, the specialists, technicians and advisers, as they were in the Syrian troops, it is ...
  16. +7
    8 June 2016 11: 05
    No need to connect the capture of Raqqa with the defeat of ISIS. ISIS has tentacles in Africa, Europe, Southeast Asia, and the CIS, with Russia. Even in China there. Also, his financial replenishment from the CA, and maybe from the USA, will not go anywhere.
    Take Racca is not Berlin to take.
    By the way, the victory over Germany also did not become the final victory over Nazism, as we can now see.
    As long as there is oligarchic imperialism in the world, the prerequisites for Nazism and wars will not disappear.
  17. +3
    8 June 2016 11: 41
    Isil is hard to destroy. The hydra needs to open the head, and the head grows in the United States.
  18. -1
    8 June 2016 15: 12
    One can hardly believe the statements of the Russian Defense Ministry.
    For example, they kept silent about the destruction of the Russian helicopter part in Syrian Palmyra.
  19. +1
    8 June 2016 17: 24
    The Syrian army will have to fight in a fortified city. Since 2014, Raqqa has been under the control of the Islamic State, and is the capital of terrorists. It contains all the main institutions of terrorists, and the city is most likely very fortified. So, when the first Syrian units enter the city, fierce battles will ensue, and IS will defend the capital with all its might. Moreover, aviation and tanks will do little to help here, since terrorists have a lot of portable anti-aircraft and anti-tank weapons (they protect the capital after all), and the Syrian army will have to clear every street mainly with infantry.
    In any case, the city will be liberated, but how soon, a matter of time. It all depends on how strong the Syrian infantry are, and how the terrorists prepared for the defense (and they were preparing, most likely, quite seriously).
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  21. +1
    9 June 2016 11: 11
    Well, with all my heart I would like to wish the long-suffering people of Syria victory, and most importantly - the preservation of a single state! And our guys stay alive! And the Russian Federation, as a country, is staking its positions in this region more firmly.
  22. +1
    9 June 2016 17: 18
    It’s time for anti -armarm weapons and equipment to appear ... a tank for street fighting was thought out, well done, where? squealing against auto-kamikaze needed, where? equipment against-TOU-need-where? ...
    something sad suggests itself: bandits with AK are holding back the army and the armed forces ..... and the tactics of battles with barmaleys should have new achievements, save how to save strength ... The point is that there must be a reaction not only among politicians, journalists, etc. ..., but also the design bureau, military-industrial complex, general staff ... maybe there is, but somewhere it’s really deep, you can’t make out.
  23. +2
    10 June 2016 05: 42
    Justice will prevail !
  24. 0
    10 June 2016 16: 00
    I do not think that such an important operation takes place without the consent of Moscow and Washington. Everything is divided. But for how long - that is the question!
  25. 0
    10 June 2016 21: 53
    Phosphoric is not necessary But vacuum should be - inappropriately save.