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Operation "Orchard"

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The Syrian Arab Republic and the State of Israel have a long bloody history relationship Since the founding of the Jewish state, neighboring Arab countries have tried to destroy it by force. weapons. For a long time, Syria has been the most serious adversary of Israel in terms of its military potential. In a series of armed conflicts, countries on both sides lost many thousands of people killed and incurred significant material costs. So far, since 1948, after the founding of the Jewish state, Syria and Israel are formally at war.

As one of Israelis wrote in the comments on the “Military Review”: “With regard to the Air Force and Air Defense, the Syrians are our teachers (like the Swedes for the army of Peter the Great). They worked out the entire tactics of the IDF strikes on the ground. The first UAVs were tested on them. And the Syrian Air Force gave us valuable practical experience in the use of 4 generation fighters. Guiding fighters with the help of radars of other fighters, shooting UR-BB explosions from medium distances. ”

Yes, and Israeli high-ranking military in informal conversations have repeatedly admitted that the Syrian armed forces were for them the most serious opponent. Unlike, say, the Egyptians, the Syrian soldiers, armed with the same Soviet equipment, on the battlefield in the offensive achieved great success, and in the defense often showed resistance to most Arabs.

For a long time, Syria was the main ally of the Soviet Union in the Middle East and received modern Soviet weapons. As a rule, arms deliveries went from the USSR on credit, and often free of charge. In 90, this source of free “weapon freebies” dried up, and Syria’s ability to purchase weapons on the world market was very scarce. Left without Soviet assistance, the Syrian armed forces began to gradually degrade, especially in the most high-tech areas - in the Air Force and Air Defense (more details here: The current state of the Syrian Arab Republic air defense system). Although we must pay tribute to the Syrian leadership: with sufficiently meager financial capabilities, before the civil war began in the country, it made serious efforts to maintain anti-aircraft systems and fighters produced in 70-80-s, and also allocated money for the purchase of modern air defense systems. .

The Israeli Air Force, by contrast, developed and improved dynamically, becoming the most powerful in the Middle East region in the 21st century. The capabilities of Israel and Syria to develop the armed forces were incomparable, and this undoubtedly affected the activity of the Syrian army in the border areas and in the more restrained policy of the leadership of Syria. In the last years of the presidency of President Hafez Asad, who spent his entire adult life dreaming of the physical destruction of Israel, but at the same time being a far-sighted politician and realist, there was a tendency towards normalization of relations between countries. At the same time, the Syrians were preparing an asymmetric response to the case of an Israeli attack, and the chemical arsenal program was in full swing. For the tactical and operational-tactical missile systems available in the Syrian army: Luna, Elbrus and Tochka, combat units equipped with poisonous substances were created. Using them on the battlefield, of course, would not have helped to win the war, but as a deterrent in the event of strikes against Israeli cities, the role of chemical warheads was great. The distance from the Syrian-Israeli border to Tel Aviv is approximately 130 km, that is, about half of the territory of Israel is located in the zone of defeat of OTR "Tochka". However, the use of weapons of mass destruction against the state possessing nuclear weapons such as Israel is more likely to mean the beginning of a regional nuclear apocalypse, and the Syrian leadership, realizing this, also showed certain nuclear ambitions.

Apparently, work in this direction was sanctioned when the late President Hafez al-Assad was, but the facts of Syrian nuclear research were already widely received under the current president, Bashar Assad. At the start of 2000, Israeli intelligence recorded a series of meetings between high-ranking Syrian and North Korean representatives who could talk about the provision of North Korean nuclear technology and fissile materials. The DPRK has never been a direct opponent of Israel, but due to the permanent currency deficit, North Korea actively sold nuclear secrets and rocket technology to anyone who wanted it. In addition, between Syria and Iran, which also actively sought to possess nuclear weapons, there were close friendly relations. The unifying ideological factor for the leadership of the SAR and the IRI is hatred of Israel, given this Iran, having advanced in nuclear research far beyond Syria, could easily share radioactive materials, technologies and equipment.

Naturally, Israel reacted very keenly to the desire of neighboring unfriendly countries to acquire nuclear weapons. It is fair to say that the expansion of the “nuclear club” is, of course, a destabilizing factor in the international arena, and no one is interested in this, including Russia. On this issue, despite a number of differences on other topics, the interests of Israel and Russia coincide. The question is only in the methods with which Israel is inclined to act, and these methods are often very “sharp”, far beyond the framework of international law. Neither in the past nor now, the Israeli special services, acting in the territory of other states, did not bother with the observance of national criminal law, putting their own interests above all else. So, in December, 2006 in London, Israeli agents entered a hotel room where a high-ranking Syrian official stayed, and during his absence, they installed spyware and technical devices on his laptop, which later gained valuable information about the Syrian nuclear program. It became known about Iran’s intention to build a uranium enrichment facility in Syrian territory, in case similar Iranian facilities cannot function.

Naturally, this could not but alarm the Israeli leadership and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert authorized the preparation of an operation to counter the Syrian-Iranian nuclear project. The Israeli reconnaissance satellite Ofek-7 and, apparently, the Israeli agents in Syria were used to gather information. As subsequent events showed, the Israelis were very well informed about the course of nuclear research and the locations of the alleged Syrian nuclear facilities. The situation for Syria became more complicated after Ali Reza Asgari, General of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, who fled Iran to the United States, who had access to his country's nuclear secrets, provided the Americans with documents on the development of a secret Syrian nuclear program. According to the testimony of Ali Reza Asgari, technical support was provided by North Korean scientists, and Iran provided money for the implementation of the program (about a billion dollars). It also became known about the facility located at a military base in the vicinity of the city of Marj al-Sultan, where it was planned to enrich uranium from an Iranian concentrate. Ready for loading, the Syrians allegedly planned to transport to the reactor in Al-Kibar (Deir el-Zor).

Operation "Orchard"

Satellite image of the proposed nuclear facility in Deir el-Zor


Syria responded with a categorical refusal to the IAEA’s request for the admission of experts to the specified facilities. At the beginning of 2007, the Israelis turned to George Bush to strike the United States with long-range cruise missiles at Syrian nuclear facilities, but the Americans this time decided to refrain from a missile attack. Soon, a North Korean ship carrying a load of uranium rods for the Syrian nuclear reactor was seen landing at the Syrian port of Tartus. The arrival of the North Korean ship with uranium became the starting point, after the passage of which the conduct of the force operation entered a phase of practical implementation.

This was not the first such operation; in 1981, the Iraqi Osirak nuclear reactor was destroyed as a result of a raid by Israeli military aircraft. All these actions fit into the framework of the Israeli doctrine, according to which the Arab countries are opposed to Israel, and under no circumstances should they ever become possessors of nuclear weapons.

The Israeli Air Force operation, which later became known as the "Orchard" (Hebrew. מבצע בוסתן ,, Eng. Operation Orchard), took place on September 6 on the 2007. An airstrike was assigned before the reactor began its work, since the destruction of an operating nuclear facility located on the banks of the Euphrates could lead to a strong radioactive contamination of its waters.



Shortly after midnight, residents of the Syrian provincial town of Deir el-Zor, whose name translates as "Monastery in the Forest", heard a series of explosions and saw a bright flash in the desert beyond Euphrates. All this was the final act of the raid by the Israeli Air Force to destroy the alleged Syrian nuclear facility. According to information leaked to the media, the F-15I 69 squadron fighter-bombers were involved in the air attack.

Israeli double F-15I, also known as Thunder (English "Thunder"), are very advanced both in the ability to conduct air combat, and in terms of striking ground targets with combat vehicles. In many characteristics, they even surpass the American F-15. On the part of the route, the F-15I was accompanied by the F-16I Sufa, which is a two-seater, greatly improved version of the F-16D Block 50 / 52 fighter.


Israeli F-16I and F-15I


An electronic warfare aircraft also participated in the raid, referred to in a number of sources as ELINT, perhaps it was the DRLO and EW CAEW aircraft, created on the basis of the G550 Gulfstream Aerospace administrative G6. On the night of September 2007, 25, in Israel itself, in Syria and in the south-west of Turkey, there were failures in the operation of telecommunication systems. This was a consequence of the most powerful radio-electronic interference generated with the aim of blinding the Syrian air defense system. It was noted that there was no such level of electronic countermeasures from Israel for about 1982 years after the events of XNUMX in the Beck Valley. Apparently, the EW equipment was also carried by combat aircraft directly involved in the strike.


DRLO and EW CAEW aircraft


The Israeli-Syrian contact line and the border with Lebanon from Syria in 2007 were very tightly covered by the air defense system, and in this area the level of combat readiness of the Syrian air defense systems has traditionally been maintained at a high level. In order to deceive Syria’s air defense and minimize the risk of defeat of combat aircraft, the invasion of Syrian airspace came from Turkey, from where attacks were not expected. The concentration of Syrian air defense missile systems along the Turkish border at that time was low, and most of the radar stations didn’t function, as a result, the Israelis took advantage of. Seven F-15I penetrated into Turkey from the south-west. Being over Turkish territory, Israeli fighter-bombers dropped their suspension tanks after producing fuel from them.


The route of Israeli warplanes during the operation "Orchard" and the zone of destruction of the Syrian air defense systems as of 2007 year.

Shortly before the operation began, an Israeli special forces detachment in the form of a Syrian army was landed from a helicopter in the target area. Special Forces officers were supposed to highlight the target with a laser target designator; most likely it was the special forces of the Shaldag Air Force, whose fighters undergo special training for such missions. Prior to that, Israeli intelligence personnel had allegedly landed in the area to collect soil samples to detect radioactive substances. After the successful destruction of the Syrian facility, all Israeli soldiers, who were illegally stationed in the territory of the SAR, were safely evacuated by helicopter. According to media reports, Israeli warplanes hit with adjustable 500 ground bombs and AGM-65 Maverick missiles.

The return journey of the F-15I after they launched a rocket-bomb strike was not known for certain. But it can be assumed that the aircraft, hiding behind active interference, retreated in a westerly direction, cutting off the rest of the way over Syria and Turkey towards the Mediterranean Sea. This route made it possible to bypass most of the positions of the Syrian air defense system in the north-west of the country. Considering the distance traveled and the time spent in the air, it seems likely that on return, the Israeli F-15I would be refueled in the air over the Mediterranean Sea.



Later it became known that the Israeli pilots were insured by American warships with helicopters on board in case of the need for emergency rescue near the territorial waters of Syria. From this it follows that the Americans were aware of what is happening. If we put aside the political background and the Israeli violation of the norms of international law that have taken place, then we can note the highest level of professionalism of the Israeli military during this operation.

Oddly enough, the Israeli airstrike on the Syrian site did not cause much resonance. The first information about the Israeli air raid appeared on CNN. The next day, Turkish media reported the discovery of Israeli aviation outboard fuel tanks in Hatay and Gaziantep areas, and the Turkish Foreign Minister made an official protest to the Israeli ambassador. However, Israeli and American officials declined to comment. Later, President George W. Bush wrote in his memoirs that in a telephone conversation with Olmert, he suggested that this operation be kept secret for a while, and then made public in order to put pressure on the Syrian government. But Olmert asked for complete secrecy, wanting to avoid publicity, fearing that this could trigger a new round of escalation between Syria and Israel, and provoke a Syrian retaliatory strike.

The first public recognition by a high-ranking Israeli representative was 19 September, when opposition leader Benjamin Netanyahu stated that he supported the operation and congratulated Prime Minister Olmert on its successful completion. Prior to this, September 17, Prime Minister Olmert announced that he was ready to make peace with Syria: “without preconditions and without ultimatums”. On October 28, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert announced at a meeting of the Israeli government that he apologized to Recep Tayyip Erdogan for a possible Israeli violation of Turkish airspace.

Syrian representatives made a statement in which it was said that the air defense forces fired at Israeli planes that had dropped bombs in the desert. In an appeal to the UN Secretary-General, Ban Ki-moon, it was stated that "the violation of the airspace of the Syrian Arab Republic" and said: "This is not the first time that Israel violated the airspace of Syria."


Pictures of the alleged Syrian nuclear facility before and after the bombing


After giving publicity to the facts of Syria’s cooperation in the nuclear field with Iran and the DPRK, the Syrian leadership was subjected to intense pressure from the world community to allow international inspectors to enter its territory. In June 2008, an IAEA expert team visited a bombed site. The Syrians did everything they could to get rid of the evidence. First of all, they removed all the wreckage of the blasted building and filled the entire site with concrete. The inspectors were told that in this place before the Israeli air strike there was a conventional weapons factory, and not a nuclear reactor, which they would be obliged to report to the IAEA. The Syrians also insisted that foreigners had not previously participated in the construction of the destroyed object. In the soil samples taken during the inspection, the presence of uranium was detected. But the Syrians replied to all the charges that the uranium was in Israeli aviation munitions used in the bombardment. At the time of the arrival of inspectors on the site of the destroyed building a new one was built.


Satellite image of Google earth: a newly erected building at the site of an airstrike destroyed as of 2013 year.

As seen in the satellite image, the new building was damaged during the fighting between government forces in Syria and the rebels. As of the beginning of 2015, this area was controlled by militants of the Islamic State group. If the radioactive materials of a working reactor fell into the hands of the Islamists, the consequences could be very grave. To create a "dirty bomb" does not require the possession of special knowledge and high technology.

Until now, there is no clarity as to what the destroyed Syrian object in the desert was; everything is not clear with the details of the operation. Some sources indicate that some time after the bombing the area was again visited by Israeli special forces in order to collect soil samples. But whether this is really, is unknown, Israeli officials still remain silent.

After analyzing the known facts, I would venture to suggest that the destroyed object was not intended for the direct production of nuclear weapons. Production volumes of plutonium in a reactor of this size would be minimal, and in addition, Syria lacked the necessary infrastructure to extract it from spent fuel. Perhaps it was a question of a purely research reactor, at which it was planned to work out the methodology and technology. Apparently, the reactor, if it really was indeed a reactor, had not yet been put into operation, otherwise radioactive contamination of the area would have been impossible to hide.

After 6 September 2007, the Syrian leadership seriously bothered to strengthen its air defense system. A contract was signed with Russia for the supply of the MiG-29, Buk-M2E and C-XNUMPPMU-300, ZRPK Pantsir-C2 fighters and the modernization of part of the existing low-altitude C-1X125A air defense systems to C-1-X 125M. In the PRC, modern radar lighting systems were purchased. Subsequently, due to a reason not voiced by the Russian leadership, the contract for C-2PMU-2 was canceled, although the Russian industry had already begun to fulfill it. At the moment, the Syrian air defense system has a pronounced focal character and the inviolability of the air borders of this country is largely ensured by the presence of the Russian VKS group.

Some experts are inclined to believe that one of the objectives of Operation Orchard was to prevent Iran and to demonstrate Israel’s determination to prevent the acquisition of nuclear weapons by hostile neighbors.

Tehran made several conclusions from what happened. After the Israeli raid on Syria, an attempt was made to radically strengthen its own air defense system by purchasing modern systems in Russia. But under pressure from the United States and Israel, the Russian leadership then annulled the C-300P contract. A positive decision on this issue was made relatively recently, and the first elements of the Russian anti-aircraft missile system were delivered only in the 2016 year. In addition, Iran began to hide uranium enrichment centrifuges under construction in deep underground tunnels, where they became unavailable for guaranteed destruction even with the heaviest anti-bunker bombs.

At the end of the publication, in order to avoid a certain part of visitors to the site accusations of endorsing Israeli actions towards their neighbors, I want to make a reservation right away - I do not in any way support the killing of Arabs by Israeli military and police and regular air and artillery attacks on Syria and Lebanon. However, I also have a very negative attitude towards the “knife intifada”, terrorist attacks and rocket attacks on the territory of Israel. But whether someone likes it or not, Israelis have a lot to learn, in particular, true patriotism, how to defend their homeland in deeds, not in words, defend the country's national interests and mercilessly and consistently destroy terrorists regardless of short-term political conjuncture.

I also express my gratitude for the prompted topic and assistance in writing this article to Oleg Sokolov, a citizen of the state of Israel, who is known on the website as a “professor” - a very controversial person who is not always easy to communicate, but certainly has a broad outlook and a lively mind.

Based on:
http://www.pravda.ru/world/asia/middleeast/25-02-2011/1067988-nucleardamask-0/
http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-uses-17-tons-of-explosives-to-destroy-syrian-reactor/
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/the-story-of-operation-orchard-how-israel-destroyed-syria-s-al-kibar-nuclear-reactor-a-658663.html
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  1. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 30 May 2016 05: 58
    +13
    Discovered for myself some unknown episodes. Thank.
    1. atalef
      atalef 30 May 2016 06: 15
      +11
      Turkey experienced interruptions in the operation of telecommunication systems. This was the result of the most powerful electronic jamming generated to blind the Syrian air defense system. It was noted that there was no such level of electronic countermeasures from Israel for about 25 years after the events of 1982 in the Bek Valley. Apparently, the EW equipment was also carried by combat aircraft directly involved in the strike.

      Yes, there were interruptions in satellite television throughout northern Israel.
    2. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 30 May 2016 06: 40
      +10
      Operation "Pardes" ("Orchard") - an incident that can only be qualified as an act of war, is hushed up to this day by both Israel and Syria.
      German journalists from the magazine "Der Spiegel" conducted their own investigation into this fact:
      In September 2006, the Cypriot authorities arrested the Gregorio cargo ship, which was traveling from North Korea to Syria with a cargo of suspicious pipes. In September 2007, the Al-Ahmad dry cargo ship delivered a batch of uranium from North Korea to the Syrian port of Turtus. A month earlier, a unit of Israeli special forces in helicopters secretly penetrated into Syria and took soil samples near an enterprise in Al-Kabir. Analysis of the samples confirmed the worst fears: it all came to the conclusion that the Syrians were hastily building a nuclear reactor to produce plutonium.
      Israeli Prime Minister decided to attack the facility in Al-Qibar. Olmert notified President Bush's national security adviser Stephen Hadley and gave the go-ahead to his generals to prepare for an attack on al-Qibar. The development of the operation under the code name "Pardes" began.
      On September 5.9.2007, 10, an hour before midnight from the Ramat David air base, south of Haifa, a squadron of 15 F-XNUMX fighter bombers rose and headed west, towards the Mediterranean Sea. At the agreed time, three aircraft received orders to return to the base, and the remaining seven turned around and took a direction to the northeast.
      They crossed the Syrian border on a low-level flight, targeted the Syrian air defense radar with targeted rocket fire, and 18 minutes later reached the Dir El-Zora area. By this time, the coordinates of the target, a complex in Al-Qibar, were entered into the on-board computers of Israeli aircraft from the ground. In a matter of minutes, the nuclear plant was turned into a pile of ruins. The attack was filmed from beginning to end.
      As soon as the military reported that the target was destroyed, the Israeli Prime Minister phoned Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan, explained the situation and asked him to contact the Syrian President and explain to him that Israel would not tolerate attempts to restore the factory in Al-Kibar or build another enterprise of a similar kind.
      The Israeli government does not plan further military operations, does not want to escalate the incident and remains interested in a peaceful settlement with Syria. If Assad decides not to draw attention to the raid, Tel Aviv will be happy to follow suit. The incident was shrouded in a dense curtain of silence.
      The Israeli pilots worked so hard that it took American specialists almost a month to find the remains of the destroyed Syrian reactor on satellite images. (well, American specialists - they are such "specialists", it is enough to recall the combat weapons in Iraq, the presence of these has also not been proven with 100% reliability - my note.)
      CIA Director Michael Hayden showed American nuclear engineer David Albright pictures from a laptop of a Syrian dignitary in London.
      After examining the photographs, Albright, who was well acquainted with the North Korean nuclear program, confidently stated that the Al-Qibar facility was an exact copy of the Enben reactor.
      IAEA Director Mohammed El-Baradei, who learned of the Israeli raid from newspapers, annoyedly declared that Israel was guilty of violating international law.
      “If the Israelis and the Americans had information about the illegal nuclear plant, they were obliged to immediately notify us,” the Egyptian was indignant. - And so we are forced retroactively to dig into the wreckage to restore the picture of the incident. This is an almost impossible task. ”

      But in general, it has not yet been established with 100% certainty that the facility in Al-Kabir was indeed a nuclear reactor, and even more so its military purpose.
      I have the honor.
      1. atalef
        atalef 30 May 2016 06: 45
        +2
        Quote: Aleksandr72

        But in general, it has not yet been established with 100% certainty that the facility in Al-Kabir was indeed a nuclear reactor, and even more so its military purpose.
        I have the honor.

        Why, the mage explicitly stated
        NUCLEAR REACTOR
        The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Yukia Amano, said Syria was trying to secretly build a nuclear reactor. According to the Assotiated Press, Amano said this, speaking on Thursday in Paris. The head of the IAEA noted that the facility, destroyed in Syria by a strike by the Israeli Air Force five years ago, was the very same constructed reactor
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 30 May 2016 08: 03
          +6
          The most interesting thing is that the French themselves built the nuclear reactors (in Iraq, for sure, I do not remember in Syria ..). And then the IAEA itself condemned it.
          1. atalef
            atalef 30 May 2016 08: 12
            +3
            Quote: Zaurbek
            The most interesting thing is that the French themselves built the nuclear reactors (in Iraq, for sure, I do not remember in Syria ..). And then the IAEA itself condemned it.

            North Korea was building in Syria, but what about the reactor in Iraq, since when was Magate’s conviction at the Osirak reactor?
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 30 May 2016 14: 40
              +2
              Then why was Israel not given a "hat" for Iraq?
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      2. Professor
        Professor 30 May 2016 08: 10
        +4
        Quote: Aleksandr72
        On September 5.9.2007, 10, an hour before midnight from the Ramat David air base, south of Haifa, a squadron of 15 F-XNUMX fighter bombers rose and headed west, towards the Mediterranean Sea.

        F-15 are not based at the base of Ramat David and did not take off from there.
        I have a girl. hi

        Respect for the article. good
        1. fider
          fider 30 May 2016 08: 54
          +6
          The F-15s are not really based at the Ramat David base, but they could "sit down" in advance so as not to shine in the sky too much time.
          1. Professor
            Professor 30 May 2016 09: 11
            +1
            Quote: fider
            The F-15s are not really based at the Ramat David base, but they could "sit down" in advance so as not to shine in the sky too much time.

            What for? From the place of basing F-15 to the northern border of Israel, minutes fly. request
            1. fider
              fider 30 May 2016 09: 58
              0
              Professor
              And just in case.
              1. Professor
                Professor 30 May 2016 10: 17
                +2
                Quote: fider
                Professor
                And just in case.

                If you want to conduct a covert operation, then you should not change the usual places of deployment. Especially take off from Ramat David over the Druze Usafia and Dalyat Al-Carmel.
                1. MACCABI-TLV
                  MACCABI-TLV 30 May 2016 11: 14
                  +1
                  Quote: Professor
                  If you want to conduct a covert operation, then do not change the attractive places of deployment

                  Moreover, they chose a good day of the week. A day when there are always night training flights, and residents near the lying cities know about this and do not pay attention.
                2. fider
                  fider 30 May 2016 12: 26
                  +3
                  Professor
                  I live opposite the airfield, on the mountain, and I see how they take off and land. And I will tell you - in different directions.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 30 May 2016 12: 58
                    +2
                    Quote: fider
                    Professor
                    I live opposite the airfield, on the mountain, and I see how they take off and land. And I will tell you - in different directions.

                    Mostly in the northwestern. Otherwise, you need a sharp turn, otherwise they will be over Jenin or Jordan. But this is not the main thing. Why such difficulties with relocation if the Needles are just a stone's throw from the place of permanent deployment?

                    PS
                    I run there. I know who and how takes off. wink
              2. MACCABI-TLV
                MACCABI-TLV 30 May 2016 10: 21
                +2
                Quote: fider
                And just in case.

                just in case, the logistics of transferring ammunition, and technical personnel from ... to Ramat David, can you imagine? and why argues?
        2. Bongo
          30 May 2016 09: 29
          +11
          Quote: Professor
          F-15 are not based at the base of Ramat David and did not take off from there.

          Hello! And what did not indicate this before, did you read the draft?
          Quote: Professor
          Respect for the article.

          Quote author:
          I also express gratitude for the prompted topic and help in writing this article to Oleg Sokolov, a citizen of the state of Israel
          - anyway, you also participated in this.
          1. Professor
            Professor 30 May 2016 10: 15
            +2
            Quote: Bongo
            Hello! And what did not indicate this before, did you read the draft?

            Duc in your article about the fact that F-15 took off from Ramat David is not written, therefore there was nothing to fix. request

            Quote: Bongo
            anyway, you also participated in this.

            Thank you for the loan, of course, but you yourself did this hard work. I can throw up another topic: in 1973, Israeli special forces under the command of the future chief of staff and defense minister Shaul Mofaz landed in helicopters on the Syrian-Iraqi border and stopped the Iraqi tank division going to the aid of the Syrians. It is noteworthy that the second time the special forces failed to do this - they were already waiting ...
            1. Bongo
              30 May 2016 10: 29
              +5
              Quote: Professor
              Duc in your article about the fact that F-15 took off from Ramat David is not written, therefore there was nothing to fix.
              Yes you are right yes I looked at the draft, it is. I apologize! hi
              Quote: Professor
              Thank you for the loan, of course, but you yourself did this hard work. I can throw up another topic: in 1973, Israeli special forces under the command of the future chief of staff and defense minister Shaul Mofaz landed in helicopters on the Syrian-Iraqi border and stopped the Iraqi tank division going to the aid of the Syrians. It is noteworthy that the second time the special forces failed to do this - they were already waiting ...

              Quote: Professor
              Thank you for the loan, of course, but you yourself did this hard work. I can throw up another topic: in 1973, Israeli special forces under the command of the future chief of staff and defense minister Shaul Mofaz landed in helicopters on the Syrian-Iraqi border and stopped the Iraqi tank division going to the aid of the Syrians. It is noteworthy that the second time the special forces failed to do this - they were already waiting ...

              Later, while chronic lack of time request There will be shifts on weekends, then I’ll do it.
          2. MACCABI-TLV
            MACCABI-TLV 30 May 2016 10: 25
            +3
            Quote: Bongo
            Hello! And what did not indicate this before, did you read the draft?


            this is not a significant inaccuracy, you can not even pay attention to it.
        3. King, just king
          King, just king 30 May 2016 11: 47
          +4
          You know, citizen "professor", I don't like Jews, I honestly wrote about it below. But, for "I HAVE A GIRL," I applaud standing! One can feel the centuries-old experience, let's say "jokes".
          I myself know, and have already written, that the phrase "I have the honor" does not carry any semantic load. I have the honor to introduce myself, bow down, thank - yes, it does, but "I have the honor" - no. But people like it, and itching to write nonsense. As in the 90s, all became nobles with letters of commendation from the Noble Assembly, so they were honored.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 30 May 2016 21: 53
            0
            Quote: King, just king
            I have the honor to introduce myself, bow, thank - yes, it does, but "I have the honor" no

            Have you ever thought that introducing yourself without honor is at least offensive? Rather, the phrase just degenerated when EVERYONE began to use it.
            Be that as it may, read the book of the same name by Pikul, maybe you will understand
            1. King, just king
              King, just king 31 May 2016 11: 52
              +2
              Citizen "Pilat2009", you read your post carefully. Do you even understand what you wrote, where is the logic? What does it mean to present yourself without honor? Words and phrases are simply falling out of use. Well, the minimum percentage of the population of Russia spoke to "honor", so what? After the establishment of the power of the workers and peasants, the majority had to speak in the "high style" of the nobility
              Those. all people who speak modern Russian are people without honor, so it leaves your post?

              According to Pikul. I really liked it, re-read everything. Um, I read until the moment when I realized that it was time to wrap up with fairy tales.

              So, as a citizen of Pilat2009, you might think that you will understand. And write coherently, or else thoughts in different directions.
  2. Igor39
    Igor39 30 May 2016 06: 41
    0
    It was always clear that the Jews are henchmen of the SGA, they do everything at their direction.
  3. user3970
    user3970 30 May 2016 07: 41
    +3
    For some time, Israel began to consider Israel a parasitic state like Kosovo or Albania. With the Holocaust invented by him for sucking free money from Germany. His roles and his representatives in present-day Ukraine and representatives of the Jewish and Jewish nations in Russian banking capital and the Russian government.
    1. fider
      fider 30 May 2016 09: 00
      +6
      user3970
      So that you have such a freebie!
      1. user3970
        user3970 30 May 2016 10: 33
        +4
        Well, to perform the rite of circumcision at a respectable age, not kosher somehow. And the blondes' paises are somehow not ale. I read the five books - did not draw me to Yahweh. And the role of the old woman-protector somehow does not inspire. But Rodya Raskolnikov is yes.
    2. Amnestied
      Amnestied 30 May 2016 09: 11
      0
      Quote: user3970
      For some time, Israel began to consider Israel a parasitic state like Kosovo or Albania. With the Holocaust invented by him for sucking free money from Germany. His roles and his representatives in present-day Ukraine and representatives of the Jewish and Jewish nations in Russian banking capital and the Russian government.

      good

      Right now they will make the "Condor" from this fake show "Chariots of Heroes" of the celestial tank hundred und legion, according to their centuries-old tradition in the countries of 404 planetary Israel. Previously, everyone heard about them and their heroism (for example, in the tank columns of the Wehrmacht and SS divisions on the Eastern Front, and after 1943 on the BV near Rommel), but no one saw it with their own eyes: because from ancient times they were well disguised on the ground, mowing under under the uninvolved suckers.
      1. fider
        fider 30 May 2016 12: 38
        -4
        Amnestied
        In vain you were amnestied, it was necessary to transfer to a psychiatric hospital from "user3970", or are you broadcasting from there?
        1. Amnestied
          Amnestied 30 May 2016 13: 41
          0
          Quote: fider
          In vain you were amnestied, it was necessary to transfer to a psychiatric hospital from "user3970", or are you broadcasting from there?

          And you are hto, let me ask you to grow up and find out: do I need to go further in your gossky tgadiya - kagtavit, eh? Because "So I wanted to" not miss the moment "in your gesheft or gewalt, in order for it to be completely kosheGno ... you need to add what you missed or what you missed with boiling water:" I'm not 0 facts, but about THEIR general interpretation "in the subject of this story - conscientiously, as inappropriately, it immediately became! As if from under the page of the Mossad training manual laughing Ferstein Muchachos? lol
          1. viktorR
            viktorR 31 May 2016 00: 16
            0
            Oh, you risk it, the sons of this glorious people really like to knock on the moderator (specifically, the Professor was knocking on me, it hurt him that I had no warnings :)). Although it seems you have everything in the framework, but xs I won for a completely innocent phrase count worth.
            1. Amnestied
              Amnestied 31 May 2016 01: 00
              -1
              Knock and blacklist)))
              1. viktorR
                viktorR 31 May 2016 13: 18
                +1
                Knock and blacklist
                Well, what to do, cowards)))
    3. MACCABI-TLV
      MACCABI-TLV 30 May 2016 10: 29
      0
      Quote: user3970
      For some time, Israel began to consider Israel a parasitic state like Kosovo or Albania.

      As soon as someone from your family gets sick (God forbid) with a disease that is not being treated in your homeland, you will immediately begin to consider Israel the Super Power of the planetary scale.
      1. user3970
        user3970 30 May 2016 11: 09
        0
        Every time I think, when I visit a chain store, buying carrots. But I agree to let the Jews into Crimea only together and as a kibbutzim, and probably in the Stavropol Territory, to squeeze out the blacks from there. And at the expense of health and treatment ... As if with folk remedies - honey, a bath, herbs, it will be cheaper.
        1. MACCABI-TLV
          MACCABI-TLV 30 May 2016 11: 28
          0
          Quote: user3970
          And at the expense of health and treatment ... As if with folk remedies - honey, a bath, herbs, it will be cheaper.

          Yes Yes, come on ...

          good
    4. Lelek
      Lelek 30 May 2016 12: 51
      +1
      Quote: user3970
      user3970


      Well, you, my friend, turned it down (politely speaking). But the fact that these people have made their "offenders" (fascists) friends is surprising and disgusting. Nazis with swastikas and SS symbols roam all over Israel, and Aboriginal people shake hands with them and talk about free will. Well, "God-anointed", then do not be indignant at unpleasant epithets addressed to you. (IMHO). hi
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 30 May 2016 16: 23
        +3
        Quote: Lelek
        Nazis with swastikas and SS symbols roam all over Israel, and Aboriginal people shake hands with them and talk about free will. Well, the "anointed ones", then don't

        More pliz
      2. sivuch
        sivuch 31 May 2016 09: 27
        +3
        I haven’t seen. Apparently, I live in another Israel
        1. rubin6286
          rubin6286 31 May 2016 19: 36
          +3
          There are two Jews:
          - Moishe, what do I see? Do you read anti-Semitic literature?
          - Yes, yes!
          “But how can you?”
          - Oh, Sema! I read our Jewish literature. They all drove us into a complete depressant, killed, tortured, slaughtered, and set up the Shoah and the Holocaust. Already sick! And we read anti-Semitic literature, we, it turns out, rule the world, we rule everything, we put everyone in important posts, we bought everyone.
  4. aba
    aba 30 May 2016 07: 51
    +7
    It’s good to be a small and proud people when patrons like the USA.
    1. Dan4eG
      Dan4eG 30 May 2016 08: 49
      +12
      sit well and philosophize when you have a country of 10000 km!
      try to philosophize the size of a mosk. region!
      1. nikon7717
        nikon7717 30 May 2016 15: 15
        0
        Do the neighbors have much larger sizes?
        Well and the main thing. Who first quarreled with neighbors and behaved ugly?
        Why complain then?
        They came to chop off a piece of land from the Syrians, and did not thank until then, and why did the angry cry for them.
      2. nikon7717
        nikon7717 30 May 2016 15: 15
        0
        Do the neighbors have much larger sizes?
        Well and the main thing. Who first quarreled with neighbors and behaved ugly?
        Why complain then?
        They came to chop off a piece of land from the Syrians, and did not thank until then, and why did the angry cry for them.
    2. Kenneth
      Kenneth 30 May 2016 11: 17
      +9
      The patronage of the USSR to their opponents did not help much.
  5. Aleksander
    Aleksander 30 May 2016 07: 57
    +8
    On the one hand, I understand the Israelis and their actions, on the other hand, and if EVERYONE starts SO acting with respect to their neighbors, WHAT will happen?
    1. MACCABI-TLV
      MACCABI-TLV 30 May 2016 10: 31
      +4
      Quote: Aleksander
      and if EVERYONE starts SO acting with respect to neighbors, then WHAT will happen?

      There will be silence on the border!
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 30 May 2016 18: 57
      +3
      SUCH neighbors from all civilized countries are only in Israel. If Swiss, Danes, and any other Swedes settle on the place of the Arabs, the BV region will become the calmest in the world.
      1. Mikhail Matyugin
        Mikhail Matyugin 31 May 2016 15: 04
        0
        Quote: Nagan
        If Swiss, Danes, and any other Swedes settle on the place of the Arabs, the BV region will become the calmest in the world.

        Yes, but in the near future Israel is not in danger. Quite the contrary - the clouds were gathering (but here the United States and Russia appeared, which fit instead into this wonderful region).
  6. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 30 May 2016 08: 07
    +6
    Here is the conclusion: local air defense cannot protect very important facilities if there is no general radar coverage of the adjacent territory. But the approach from Cyprus is cunning of course.
  7. Amurets
    Amurets 30 May 2016 08: 09
    +4
    Sergey! Hi! Thanks for the article! What I heard or read about this raid was at the OBS level. Thanks again for opening my eyes a little.
    1. Bongo
      30 May 2016 09: 27
      +3
      Quote: Amurets
      Sergey! Hi! Thanks for the article! What I heard or read about this raid was at the OBS level. Thanks again for opening my eyes a little.

      Hi Nikolay! By and large, it remains at the level of OBS, part of the information presented in the publication is not officially confirmed.
  8. masiya
    masiya 30 May 2016 09: 29
    -4
    A useful, informative article once again shows that Israel is still that little thing, and like all Jews it is impossible to trust them, one figs will be thrown, deceived, shamed like Americans ...
    1. fider
      fider 30 May 2016 10: 02
      +3
      masiya
      You can only trust Russians, only you need to check.
      1. rubin6286
        rubin6286 31 May 2016 19: 38
        +2
        An Israeli, lost in the forest near Moscow, taking advantage of the help of conscious and benevolent citizens, after some year and a little left the thicket near Vladivostok.
  9. Oleg7700
    Oleg7700 30 May 2016 10: 21
    +6
    It seems that Israel did not promise anyone to preserve this "North Korean miracle" in Syria in order to later "throw and deceive" ... In addition to soil samples, Israeli intelligence received such photos from the inside and everything became completely clear.
    1. Bongo
      30 May 2016 10: 32
      +7
      Quote: Oleg7700
      In addition to soil samples, Israeli intelligence received such photos from the inside and everything became completely clear.

      It proves once again that the Israeli agents worked very well.
  10. masiya
    masiya 30 May 2016 10: 37
    0
    pro-Israeli chukvachok settled, really wants to apparently support the promised land ...
    1. Bongo
      30 May 2016 10: 47
      +3
      Quote: masiya
      pro-Israeli chukvachok settled, really wants to apparently support the promised land ...

      Are you talking to me? Please choose an expression. The meaning of your comment is not entirely clear. request
      1. masiya
        masiya 30 May 2016 10: 51
        0
        A journalist should show objectivity, you yourself know the current state of affairs in the world, and the Israel you respect is far from a role model and ideal of public morality.
        1. Bongo
          30 May 2016 11: 01
          +4
          Quote: masiya
          A journalist should show objectivity, you yourself know the current state of affairs in the world, and the Israel you respect is far from a role model and ideal of public morality.

          Excuse me, but where did you notice the "bias" in the publication? stop Please quote ... And why should I support the promised land?
          Moreover, the article repeatedly criticizes Israeli practices. Maybe you just looked at the pictures or see only what you want to see?
        2. Dan4eG
          Dan4eG 30 May 2016 11: 05
          +5
          If Russia had such an operation, you would have applauded before the fractures, but damn it! hi
          1. Kenneth
            Kenneth 30 May 2016 11: 26
            +5
            Do you propose to bang Zaporizhzhya NPP?
            1. Dan4eG
              Dan4eG 30 May 2016 11: 42
              +1
              Do you want a nuclear disaster, wallow! At Zaporizhzhya 6 active reactors, it will be worse than Faust Goethe!
              1. Kenneth
                Kenneth 30 May 2016 13: 12
                +5
                Did you need her at the construction stage?
                1. Dan4eG
                  Dan4eG 30 May 2016 13: 33
                  +4
                  At the construction stage, the USSR would have to bomb itself laughing
              2. Idiot
                Idiot 2 June 2016 15: 03
                0
                Ukrainians themselves bang their own nuclear power plants. Not without the help of Big Brother. I believe that in the Russian Federation the situation with the technical condition of the facilities is monitored by the relevant structures and, if necessary, ALL necessary measures will be taken. Do not worry about us, brothers, may your years last ...
          2. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 30 May 2016 14: 16
            0
            That would be a number! Can you imagine how Russia would be persuaded! And to you, like water from a goose!
          3. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 30 May 2016 14: 16
            0
            That would be a number! Can you imagine how Russia would be persuaded! And to you, like water from a goose!
          4. Talgat
            Talgat 30 May 2016 17: 41
            -5
            Quote: Dan4eG
            If Russia had such an operation, you would have applauded before the fractures, but damn it! hi


            Russia - unlike the ShSA. Israel and the Saudis with the Cathars. respects international law and does not bomb anyone without any legal basis.

            Even in Syria - Russia is completely legitimate - at the request of a legitimate government

            Take - like this - violate the borders of a sovereign state - bomb - only the USA or Israel can
          5. Idiot
            Idiot 2 June 2016 14: 53
            0
            Dan4eG: do you want to say in your comment that the Russian Air Force, by definition, is not capable of such an operation? My country of 70 years (probably not the last time) has set cancer as a self-proclaimed God-chosen nation. Pilots of this nation considered the Slavs incapable of resisting them in the air. However, what prevents your professionals from showing a master class in Syria. We are there for now.
          6. Idiot
            Idiot 2 June 2016 14: 53
            0
            Dan4eG: do you want to say in your comment that the Russian Air Force, by definition, is not capable of such an operation? My country of 70 years (probably not the last time) has set cancer as a self-proclaimed God-chosen nation. Pilots of this nation considered the Slavs incapable of resisting them in the air. However, what prevents your professionals from showing a master class in Syria. We are there for now.
        3. Kenneth
          Kenneth 30 May 2016 11: 24
          +8
          So what. Like Russia, Israel is trying to act in its national interests. And the reactor in Syria contradicts these interests. Like Georgian troops in South Ossetia.
        4. tilix
          tilix 30 May 2016 19: 00
          +6
          Journalist - Objectivity Must Show
          How is Elena Gromova, huh? The Syrian five-year plan in three years! Hurray الرفاق, Substitute Akbar.
  11. Leto
    Leto 30 May 2016 11: 18
    +3
    If the DPRK is the source of the spread of nuclear technology, why isn’t Israel bombing the Kimov?
    1. Dan4eG
      Dan4eG 30 May 2016 11: 24
      +1
      Because the kimami should be the UN and mate!
    2. Bongo
      30 May 2016 11: 29
      +5
      Quote: Leto
      If the DPRK is the source of the spread of nuclear technology, why isn’t Israel bombing the Kimov?

      If Israel bordered on the DPRK, nuclear weapons in this country would never have appeared.
      1. Leto
        Leto 30 May 2016 11: 55
        +1
        Quote: Bongo
        If Israel Bordered on the DPRK

        What does the border have to do with it? Israel’s neighbors will not stop trying to get nuclear weapons, of course you can throw them off with air strikes a few years ago, but when not hide it so that you can’t get a bomb. And the only country that is ready to supply equipment and technologies for money is the DPRK, there is no one in the world who is ready to provide nuclear weapons to the Arabs for money, it’s too painful for Kim ...
        1. Bongo
          30 May 2016 13: 20
          +3
          Quote: Leto
          What does the border have to do with it?

          Quote from publication:
          This was not the first operation of this kind; in 1981, the Iraqi Osirak nuclear reactor was destroyed as a result of an Israeli military aircraft raid. All these actions fit into the framework of the Israeli doctrine, according to which the Arab countries are opponents of Israel, never under any circumstances should not become owners of nuclear weapons.

          Quote: Leto
          Israel’s neighbors will not stop trying to get nuclear weapons, of course you can throw them off with air strikes a few years ago, but when not hide it so that you can’t get a bomb.

          Which of Israel's neighbors has managed to create nuclear weapons? In this regard, Iran has advanced the farthest, although for it it almost ended in war or airstrikes. However, it would be a stretch to consider Iran a "neighbor" of the Jewish state. In the Middle East, Israel has a monopoly on nuclear weapons and delivery vehicles, although the Israeli leadership has never confirmed this.
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 30 May 2016 13: 58
            +4
            Quote: Kenneth
            So what. Like Russia, Israel is trying to act in its national interests. And the reactor in Syria contradicts these interests.

            I completely agree with the author of this comment. For some reason, everyone forgets ISIS’s attempts to acquire nuclear weapons or fissile materials, and where is the guarantee that they won’t get to them? And Ukraine has already expressed regret that it declared itself without a nuclear zone and allowed it to take out nuclear weapons.
      2. Idiot
        Idiot 2 June 2016 15: 07
        -2
        "If Israel had bordered the DPRK, nuclear weapons would never have appeared in this country." Bongo licked great. Handsome ...
      3. Idiot
        Idiot 2 June 2016 15: 07
        -2
        "If Israel had bordered the DPRK, nuclear weapons would never have appeared in this country." Bongo licked great. Handsome ...
  12. Mikhail Matyugin
    Mikhail Matyugin 30 May 2016 11: 28
    +4
    Many thanks to the author for the article! He knew a lot about the raid on Osirak, but about me personally was a discovery about Paradis (Garden of Eden) (I just heard without detail that I had a successful strike).

    I would say, leaving aside the issues of violation of international law, "exemplary operations".
  13. King, just king
    King, just king 30 May 2016 11: 40
    +10
    Israel is a state to which everything is possible. Why is it possible? Because, unfortunately, the USSR put it on the wrong card, although it entered correctly. These Arabs, taught, taught, given, given, to no purpose. Jews beat the Arabs and are now beating. What, b, for such allies, a country that can be surpassed, from the 40s they are wet, and can not be dunk in any way? How, then, the global confrontation ... Yes, after the first pees ...., it was necessary to spit on this Egypt with Syria and Jordan and these Palestinians frostbitten, let them figure it out.
    Yes, I don’t like Jews, I don’t like that. Especially looking at the leadership of Russia in the 90s, and even now, though now there are more Basmachis and skullcaps in the rich than Jews (the people in bales are already in London). But, b, to give credit - they’re fighting not for kids.
    1. rubin6286
      rubin6286 31 May 2016 19: 43
      +1
      Two Jews are talking:
      One says: - It is difficult for us Jews, everything in this life is given ...
      “Difficult,” the second sighs. - But that’s all.
  14. Nekarmadlen
    Nekarmadlen 30 May 2016 12: 01
    +1
    The Syrians seem to have allowed the traditional gouging without properly defending the strategic target ... After all, the Israeli Air Force had already raided the nuclear center in Iran, it would be possible to draw the right conclusions .... Although, given what began in Syria in 5 years, the lack of nuclear center is a great blessing ...
    1. iouris
      iouris 30 May 2016 13: 59
      +7
      Main conclusions.
      Israel is a nuclear superpower that violates the nuclear weapons nonproliferation regime.
      International law is for the weak and stupid.
      The winner is not judged - they admire him. So you have to be a winner.
      Israel is the US hand in the B. East and "the tail that wags the dog."
      It is impossible to defend a "strategic object" if the enemy is cunning and professional, and the flight time to the object is short.
      Turkey does not always shoot down planes that use its airspace.
      It does not matter whether the object was nuclear or not: the main thing is that the enemy is humiliated.
      1. Bongo
        30 May 2016 14: 05
        +6
        Quote: iouris
        Main conclusions.
        Israel is a nuclear superpower that violates the nuclear weapons nonproliferation regime.

        Regional nuclear superpower.
        Quote: iouris
        International law - for the weak and stupid

        In the current conditions of a unipolar world, unfortunately, yes. crying
        Quote: iouris
        The winner is not judged - they admire him. So you have to be a winner.

        good
        Quote: iouris
        It is impossible to defend a "strategic object" if the enemy is cunning and professional, and the flight time to the object is short.

        It only means that we also need to be insidious and professional in relation to our opponents.
        Quote: iouris
        Turkey does not always shoot down planes that use its airspace.
        It does not matter whether the object was nuclear or not: the main thing is that the enemy is humiliated.

        yes
      2. Professor
        Professor 30 May 2016 14: 13
        +7
        Quote: iouris
        Israel is a nuclear superpower that violates the nuclear weapons nonproliferation regime.

        Breaking How can you break something that does not oblige you and that you did not sign? request

        It’s like a bachelor accused of adultery. First you need to get married (commit yourself) and only then you can talk about cheating (violation of obligations). wink
        1. iouris
          iouris 30 May 2016 17: 24
          +3
          This regime is provided by the great powers - the permanent members of the UN Security Council. Israel is a product of the agreement of some of the great powers. The situation can be rectified in two ways: 1) Forcing Israel to surrender nuclear weapons, 2) Making Israel a permanent member of the UN Security Council, and thereby admit that some nuclear superpowers are "more equal" than others.
          1. Professor
            Professor 30 May 2016 19: 11
            +2
            Quote: iouris
            This regime is provided by the great powers - permanent members of the UN Security Council.

            Where is it written?

            Quote: iouris
            Israel is a product of the agreement of some great powers.

            Some still exist (powers), while others have sunk into oblivion and there is no trace of past greatness. Although not. The trace remained. But this does not concern us.

            Quote: iouris
            There are two ways to rectify the situation: 1) Force Israel to surrender nuclear weapons,

            The compulsor did not grow up among the compulsors.

            Quote: iouris
            2) Make Israel a permanent member of the UN Security Council and thus recognize that some nuclear superpowers are "more equal" than others.

            No thanks. We don’t need it. Moreover, membership in the Security Council is in no way connected with the possession of nuclear weapons.
        2. rubin6286
          rubin6286 31 May 2016 19: 52
          0
          David Solomonovich Liebman, reads in the newspaper "Evening Odessa": "The youth national football team of Ukraine, yesterday, in the hardest struggle, snatched a point from Liechtenstein."
          - Oh my God, well, you went for youth - you can’t go out to the poor Jew .... !!!
      3. Pimply
        Pimply 30 May 2016 16: 25
        +3
        Quote: iouris
        Israel is a nuclear superpower that violates the nuclear weapons nonproliferation regime.

        More, pliz?
        Quote: iouris
        US hand on B.Vostok and

        To put it mildly controversial moment
        Quote: iouris
        It is impossible to defend a "strategic object" if the enemy is cunning and professional, and the flight time to the object is short.

        ??
        Quote: iouris
        Turkey does not always shoot down planes that use its airspace.

        ??
    2. tilix
      tilix 30 May 2016 19: 08
      +4
      After all, there was already a raid by the Israeli Air Force on the nuclear center in Iran
      In Iraq
      not properly protecting the strategic object
      And imagine that you would build there Agromnoe air defense and others like him. The Syrians did not want to identify themselves.
    3. Mikhail Matyugin
      Mikhail Matyugin 1 June 2016 08: 20
      +1
      Quote: Nekarmadlen
      After all, there was already a raid by the Israeli Air Force on the nuclear center in Iran, it would be possible to draw the right conclusions .... Although, given what began in Sir

      Well, you’re like the president of the United States - you confuse Iraq and Iran! laughing
  15. silver_roman
    silver_roman 30 May 2016 12: 03
    +4
    A powerful operation, but the question is: was this object built to divert eyes?
    The absence of kipish is understandable: in order not to anger the world community, Syria did not raise cries, because they themselves violated the IAEA rules, + hid the participation of Koreans and Iranians. But Israel acted wisely in general: apologized to the Turks for violating airspace, proposed a peace process with Syria. Of course I often admire this country.
  16. Pimply
    Pimply 30 May 2016 12: 23
    +4
    It is worth adding that in vain about international law added. First, it does not exist as a single system. And secondly, the war between Israel and Syria has been officially going on since the 1948 year, and the only document on this subject - the disengagement agreement in the Golan - clearly emphasizes that the document is by no means a peace agreement. So in the framework of international law, this is just a continuation of the war.
  17. Cananecat
    Cananecat 30 May 2016 15: 23
    +4
    To some extent, Israel needs to be thanked for that raid; otherwise, at present, this facility would constitute one big headache for everyone. And a very tidbit for Daesh.
  18. Operator
    Operator 30 May 2016 15: 34
    -1
    Israel and Syria have been at war since the first Arab-Israeli conflict of the 1948 year and to the present. Therefore, the actions of Israel in relation to the opposite side are justified from the point of view of international law.

    The operation against Syria was conducted by a military coalition comprising the United States, Israel and Turkey, whose total military capabilities are several orders of magnitude greater than those of such a small and poor country like Syria. The outcome of the operation was completely logical.

    It must also be remembered that the USSR / Russia has always been categorically against the expansion of the number of countries possessing nuclear weapons. We have not helped anyone, including China, North Korea, India, Iran and the Arab countries, in the development of nuclear technology. Therefore, our reaction after the Israeli attacks on nuclear facilities in Iraq and Syria was neutral. Most likely, it will be the same after the retaliatory Iranian-Syrian-Iraqi strike on the Israeli nuclear facility in Dimon in five years.
    1. RedBaron
      RedBaron 30 May 2016 16: 25
      +6
      Quote: Operator
      Therefore, our reaction after the Israeli attacks on nuclear facilities in Iraq and Syria was neutral. Most likely, it will be the same after a retaliatory Iranian-Syrian-Iraqi strike on the Israeli nuclear facility in Dimon in five years.

      A blow to the operating reactor? This is a nuclear war, and this "coalition" with Iran and there will be no wet place.
      1. Operator
        Operator 30 May 2016 17: 03
        -1
        I said that we are neutral in such matters.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 30 May 2016 16: 27
      +3
      Quote: Operator
      The operation against Syria was conducted by a military coalition comprising the United States, Israel and Turkey, whose total military capabilities are several orders of magnitude greater than those of such a small and poor country like Syria. The outcome of the operation was completely logical.

      Is this about what ??

      Quote: Operator
      Most likely, it will be the same after the Iranian-Syrian-Iraqi retaliatory strike on the Israeli nuclear facility in Dimona in five years.

      Seriously?
    3. King, just king
      King, just king 30 May 2016 16: 39
      +1
      Yeah, nobody! I was especially glad for China, in the sense of the PRC, well, that we, in the sense of the USSR, did not help him with the atom!
      1. Operator
        Operator 30 May 2016 17: 15
        -3
        The USA helped China with nuclear technologies, stimulating in 1955 year the return of more than 40 American and Canadian nuclear physicists - ethnic Chinese to their historical homeland

        http://rusplt.ru/world/bomba-predsedatelya-mao-13787.html

        The USSR offered China only its defense (nuclear umbrella), in complete analogy with the American nuclear umbrella for Japan, South Korea and Western Europe.
        1. iouris
          iouris 30 May 2016 17: 25
          +1
          China is a permanent member of the UN Security Council. China possesses nuclear weapons legally.
          1. Pimply
            Pimply 30 May 2016 17: 49
            +3
            Quote: iouris
            China is a permanent member of the UN Security Council. China possesses nuclear weapons legally.

            Because a member of the Security Council? But India is not here, and the contract is not signed. Is she legal?
            1. iouris
              iouris 30 May 2016 17: 53
              0
              Not. All unofficial nuclear powers should be sanctioned.
              By the way, South Africa (along with Israel?) Tested a nuclear device and was subject to sanctions.
              Here a special responsibility lies with the great powers, especially the United States, which position themselves as the most powerful state.
              1. Pimply
                Pimply 30 May 2016 19: 21
                -2
                Quote: iouris
                Not. All unofficial nuclear powers should be sanctioned.
                By the way, South Africa (along with Israel?) Tested a nuclear device and was subject to sanctions.
                Here a special responsibility lies with the great powers, especially the United States, which position themselves as the most powerful state.

                And they are official before whom, my dear little friend?
    4. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 30 May 2016 17: 48
      +5
      "Iranian-Syrian-Iraqi strike" ////

      They have already conspired and even set a deadline (in 5 years) - all three countries?
  19. Operator
    Operator 30 May 2016 18: 05
    0
    The guarantor of the Iranian-Syrian-Iraqi agreements on Dimona - Israel, which in the past struck at Iraqi and Syrian nuclear facilities, planned to strike at Iranian nuclear facilities, and is now using aircraft to conduct military operations against the Syrian and Iranian armed forces in Syria.

    Less than five years later, UN sanctions on the supply of offensive weapons to Iran expire.
    1. tilix
      tilix 30 May 2016 19: 15
      +5
      Great, that is, in five years you can hit Iran without thinking at all, since they too. And Russia will not care. You promise? Well, thanks, we made friends so they did.
      1. Operator
        Operator 30 May 2016 19: 28
        -3
        So why wait for as many 5 years - try today laughing
        1. tilix
          tilix 30 May 2016 19: 36
          +7
          Maybe we will trylaughinglaughinglaughing>
          Or maybe notlaughinglaughinglaughing>
          But I know exactly whom we will not asklaughinglaughinglaughing>
          1. Operator
            Operator 30 May 2016 21: 36
            -4
            So the gut is thin am
            1. tilix
              tilix 31 May 2016 12: 01
              +3
              Everyone judges by himself, depending on his moral qualities, to the extent of his spirituality or lack of spirituality
              < laughing >
              intestine

              What is it all pulls you into the gut? One of you here, like Chisain, tries to look into the rectum, you are also worried about the intestine. An accident?
  20. ibirus
    ibirus 30 May 2016 18: 51
    0
    What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull (which is possible for the Jews, it is impossible for the Syrians). Why did some sly make atomic weapons, while others can not? I kind of understand the Syrians, where are the guarantees that the Jewish leadership will not decide to hit the neighbor proactively, so to speak, to reduce losses?
    1. tilix
      tilix 30 May 2016 19: 20
      +6
      (what is possible for Jews is not for Syrians)
      And who said no? request > So they tried it. But without establishing friendly relations with neighbors, before that, one cannot be insured against troubles. And suddenly, out of nowhere, an airplane appeared. But whose, is still not established.
    2. Pimply
      Pimply 30 May 2016 19: 23
      +4
      Quote: ibirus
      What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull (which is possible for the Jews, it is impossible for the Syrians). Why did some sly make atomic weapons, while others can not? I kind of understand the Syrians, where are the guarantees that the Jewish leadership will not decide to hit the neighbor proactively, so to speak, to reduce losses?

      Well, if only because Syria has signed an agreement on non-proliferation, and has not withdrawn its signature under it.
    3. Mikhail Matyugin
      Mikhail Matyugin 30 May 2016 19: 33
      +2
      Quote: ibirus
      What is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull (what is possible for the Jews, it is not for the Syrians). Why did some people quietly make atomic weapons, but not others?

      Why so? They did everything. Only some of them succeeded and they can save it - while others did not, but they did not save what they did.
  21. hohol95
    hohol95 30 May 2016 20: 56
    0
    Dear author! Let me ask a question! Are you going to highlight some kind of operation not of the valiant Israeli "Rambo", but of the "modest" South African fighters who managed to lose only 45 people and one Olefant tank during the battles at Kuito-Kuanaval? Of these 45 dead, 11 were killed during the MiG raid on the Burr convoy!
    1. Mikhail Matyugin
      Mikhail Matyugin 31 May 2016 00: 33
      +3
      Quote: hohol95
      Are you going to cover some kind of operation not of the valiant Israeli "Rambo", but of the "modest" South African fighters

      What's the problem ? If you have a desire and information - write, upload to the site - and if the editors approve, the article will be published at least in the "Opinions" section!
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 31 May 2016 13: 06
        0
        I'm not strong in such creativity! And personal time is not rubber!
    2. sivuch
      sivuch 31 May 2016 09: 40
      +1
      Yes. There Mig-23 worked. Somewhere I mention it, in the combat use section of the Mig-23ML
      http://paralay.iboards.ru/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3448&p=523765#p523765
  22. hohol95
    hohol95 30 May 2016 22: 43
    +2
    BATTLE FOR QUITO-KUANAVALE. Cubans and ours from the captured South African tank "Oliphant". The region of the Kuito River, 1988
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 30 May 2016 23: 21
      +7
      "You couldn't be there,
      And the blood of Russian
      Angola's land was not red. "

      Not in the subject of the article, of course, but the person close to me sang this song. He was brought from there at the end of 87, who was poisoned by some kind of filth. Gray-haired, headaches, dizziness with loss of consciousness ... They gave 3 group disability and 33 ruble pension. In 89, he was buried. Bless you memory of him ...
      1. viktorR
        viktorR 31 May 2016 00: 28
        0
        They gave the 3rd disability group and 33 rubles of pension
        Hmm ... Piz-eat not tossing bags ...
  23. zyablik.olga
    zyablik.olga 31 May 2016 02: 50
    +4
    Quote author:
    As of the beginning of 2015, this area was controlled by militants of the Islamic State group. If the radioactive materials of a working reactor fell into the hands of the Islamists, the consequences could be very grave. To create a "dirty bomb" does not require the possession of special knowledge and high technology.
    It turns out that by destroying the reactor the Israelis actually did a "good deed"? Otherwise, would the radioactive materials fall into the hands of ISIS?
  24. Mikhail Matyugin
    Mikhail Matyugin 31 May 2016 12: 10
    +3
    Quote: zyablik.olga
    By destroying the reactor, the Israelis actually did a "good deed"? Otherwise, would the radioactive materials fall into the hands of ISIS?

    Yes, you could say that. By the way, having destroyed the Osirak complex - the Israeli Air Force did the same - then radioactive materials would have fallen into the hands of Iraqi jihadists, or perhaps Saddam Hussei would have decided not to use a "dirty bomb" against the invasion in 91 or 2003.

    And a very correct opinion has already been expressed - if Israel bordered on North Korea or Iran, then these states with their inadequate leaders would never have gotten nuclear weapons in their hands.