The preparation of the invasion of Russia is gaining momentum

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The allegations that a NATO war against Russia is impossible are not entirely justified. Relationship tension is constantly increasing, reaching the level of individual fire contacts



The NATO fighter (Turkey - a member of the alliance) knocks down a Russian bomber. In response, the Russian Aerospace Forces, in cooperation with the Syrian forces, destroy terrorists in the area where our pilot was shot. Some of the militants come from Turkey. Given the critical importance for Ankara of the "black boxes" of the Russian aircraft, special forces groups of the Turkish army were sent to the place. They were probably eliminated by the Russian-Syrian aviation and artillery strikes.

Bridgeheads around the perimeter

NATO is building up its potential at our borders without any intelligible explanation. In the Baltic republics, bases are permanently deployed at which weapons and military equipment are stored for large military units - divisions and brigades, with a minimum number of personnel that maintain and protect this equipment. The main contingents in a short time (within a week) can be transferred by air from the United States and in a few days full-fledged units are ready to begin hostilities. So do not be mistaken about today's contingents of personnel in Eastern Europe.
“Fighters of the Ukrainian special forces are especially important for NATO. Having one language with us, they are indispensable for special operations in Russia ”

The potential of the American tactical nuclear weapons. The re-equipment program of the F-16 and Tornado fighters of the Air Force of the five NATO countries with the equipment allowing the use of the B61-12 bombs is at the final stage and will be completed by the year of 2018. Aircraft of the countries that were previously considered non-nuclear - Belgium, the Netherlands, Turkey, Germany and Italy, will become carriers of such weapons. This alone is a gross violation of the NPT. And prospective F-35 fighter jets purchased by some NATO countries were originally designed for use of nuclear weapons as well.

Our military-political leadership is taking emergency measures. Unprecedentedly large financial and other resources have been allocated for the re-equipment of the Armed Forces over the past quarter century. Efforts are being made to recreate the industrial potential of the country, primarily the defense-industrial complex. The patriotic vector in the media and official rhetoric has radically strengthened, which should have a beneficial effect on the moral and psychological state of society, in particular on the citizens' readiness to defend their homeland.

Who do we bother?

Fears of a possible clash with NATO appeared for the first time since Soviet times. The reality of the third world war, in its classical sense, and the need to prevent a catastrophe began at the highest level. The probability of an armed conflict with individual NATO countries and even local wars with them is actively discussed in the expert community. However, everyone emphasizes that Russia is a nuclear power and its potential guarantees us security from NATO aggression. Even recognizing the reality of the armed struggle with Turkey in Syria, experts and politicians are sure that the matter will not come to a full-scale war with NATO - we have a “nuclear club”.

On the other hand, almost everyone recognizes that for the United States, Russia is the main obstacle to global domination. At the same time, Washington is losing its “peripheral strategy”. The Arab Spring ultimately turned out to be a failed operation, and Russian intervention in the Syrian conflict and the successful actions of the Assad army put an end to American influence in the Middle and even Middle East, the influence of our country sharply increases there. Saudi Arabia’s hopes are crumbling to strengthen its position in this region, and Turkey has to say goodbye to the idea of ​​reviving the Ottoman Empire. For these states, the situation is getting worse. Ankara is likely to get Kurdish autonomy in Syria along the southern borders of the country, which actually puts Turkey on the verge of collapse. In Saudi Arabia, given the internal contradictions with the Shiite minority and the confrontation with Iran, as well as the obvious failure of the Yemeni campaign, there is also a high risk of destructive processes that can destroy a relatively fragile state.

Readiness is a matter of time

In such conditions, the likelihood of non-standard, sometimes poorly calculated anti-Russian actions of both the Western elites and Ankara with Riyadh is growing. However, the projected attack is considered, as a rule, in the economic and informational-political aspects, since NATO troops are very sensitive to combat losses. There is no readiness for tough confrontation among the population of these countries, which is largely determined by the lack of an ideology of war. The West today is weak both morally and ideologically. Afghanistan and Iraq showed it.

However, the experience of the 30s of the last century, when the German and other peoples of the fascist bloc turned into cruel aggressors due to the powerful propaganda campaign in a few years, shows that the unreadiness of the NATO countries is very relative. Information warfare technologies have gone far ahead since Goebbels. Therefore, it is not worthwhile to particularly count on the peaceful mood of the population.

Remains the trump card - nuclear weapons. This is a key deterrent. But only under certain conditions. The first is the continuous and reliable operation of the nuclear force management system. Its violation will mean for the aggressor that the threat, even with a nuclear-ready arsenal, is eliminated. The second is the determination of the highest military-political leadership, or rather one person - the president to use it. It is extremely difficult. The third condition is the preservation of combat sustainability by the systems of nuclear weapons. They can be destroyed, captured or neutralized by other means. With ground installations, this will be done by sabotage groups. Strategic aviation is blocked at the airfields. Submarines with ballistic missiles are disabled in the bases.

If you look at the problem from this point of view, then it is possible to develop a scenario in which the key factors deterring NATO from military aggression against Russia will be eliminated. And this means that everything has already been calculated at the headquarters of the alliance.
Turn-based aggression

In order to decide on a direct attack, the aggressor must be sure that, taking into account all the essential factors, he will be able to win with guarantee. With the overwhelming economic and military-strategic superiority of NATO, primarily the United States, in general-purpose forces over the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the creation of conditions for an armed invasion of Russia is as follows:

1. Moral and psychological preparation of the population of NATO countries to conduct a large-scale military campaign.

2. Suppression of the will to resist the ruling elites and the people, the disorganization of government.

3. Neutralization of our nuclear potential, when possible, combined with the disorganization of the military administration as a whole.

If you look at the coverage of Russian issues in the Western media, you can confidently assert that the first of these tasks there seems to be already being actively solved. Measures are being taken to suppress the will of the power elite to resist. This, in particular, the embargo and sanctions lists. It is worth emphasizing that the West is going to restrictions, even causing serious damage to its own economy. This demonstrates the determination to bring the matter to a logical end at any cost.

There is also active work inside Russia. Representatives of the intellectual elite of the pro-Western camp are trying to prove to the president the need to return to the liberal course, the economic strategy of 90. Others - from among the representatives of big business, middle and top managers in federal and regional bodies - contribute to the emergence of problems leading to a significant reduction in the quality of life of the population. Presidential instructions are sabotaged almost openly. The discussion of the only possible way for the revival of industry — a radical increase in the role of the state in the economy — was buried. Moreover, a new wave of privatization is being initiated, now enterprises and objects of strategic importance. Even Uralvagonzavod will have to become private on 25 percent. Foreign participants are actively invited for privatization. There is no doubt that those (or their representatives in Russia) will not remain on the sidelines and, becoming co-owners of defense enterprises, will be able to get not only access to developments, but also the opportunity to influence the industry’s activities. And the planned denationalization of infrastructure, especially transport (major airports and Russian Railways) will allow foreign companies to control the movement of cargo in the interests of the Russian Armed Forces. At the same time, extremely expensive and absolutely nothing for the economy are initiated, but projects leading to an increase in social tension, such as biometric passports, which also allow the United States to receive complete and reliable information about the state of our society. That is, the solution of the second most important task - the suppression of the will to resist the ruling elites and the people, the disorganization of government - is in full swing. This is the first stage of the preparation of the military invasion of Russia. It will be completed when, against the background of mass expressions of discontent, federal authorities will be largely discredited, and centrifugal tendencies will gain power and political shape.

Blow to the head

At the second stage, with the transition to the power confrontation of the protesters with law enforcement agencies, the task of collapsing the government and suppressing the will of the ruling elites to resist will be finally resolved. Disorganization of the nuclear force control and airspace control systems will provide the conditions for a direct military invasion.

In the UN, other international organizations, in the media, hysteria will rise about Russia's loss of control over weapons of mass destruction, the threat of its falling into the hands of terrorists. The United States and NATO may well decide to use special operations forces, a squadron, tactical and strategic aviation to physically neutralize Russian nuclear forces, first of all their command and control centers and communications systems. This will be the first stage of a direct military invasion. Under the guise of insurgents, the NATO special operations forces can solve the problem of neutralizing the elements of the control system even in large cities, including Moscow. Such actions are feasible regardless of whether there is a UN mandate or not.

In case of large-scale unrest, the transfer of units and subunits of special operations forces can be carried out by air, by land, and from the sea. Influence agents in Russia will provide favorable conditions for solving combat missions. After the initial neutralization of the nuclear potential, the NATO rapid reaction force will be introduced to consolidate the success of the country’s territory.

Probably, in connection with a similar scenario in the border areas of Russia, the grouping of special forces and rapid deployment forces is growing. Their current small number, as already mentioned, should not be misleading.
What is Ukraine prepared for?

The appearance of foreign troops on the territory of Russia, of course, will cause massive anger of the population, the most active part of which will take up arms. Separate units and subunits of the Armed Forces and the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and other security agencies will independently begin hostilities against the invaders. But their actions will be poorly coordinated. NATO forces will be able to neutralize resistance, probably with little casualties. But this will give a reason to move to the second stage of the war: the massive invasion of Russia.

Scripts worked out in other countries. Initially, an air offensive operation is conducted with the aim of the final destruction of the Russian Air Force and Air Defense. But they will already be disorganized, and such a campaign is most likely not required. For the same reason, NATO is unlikely to expect organized resistance to their ground formations. For operational surprise, the grouping of the invasion is initially formed from the composition of the peacetime forces, possibly after partial covert formation. Its further build-up is carried out as needed.

In such a context, the assertions of Kiev politicians and the military about the possibility of returning the Crimea are completely understandable in a completely different situation. The Ukrainian army will become the most important component of the NATO group. Naturally, after its complete reorganization with the replacement of the current personnel, especially the commanding, with loyal to the West and the current government, which is actively being implemented today. Especially important for NATO fighters Ukrainian special forces. Being identical ethnoculturally, having one language with us, they are indispensable for conducting special actions on the territory of Russia with a preliminary covert deployment of the necessary grouping of forces. The rest of the Ukrainian army will be one of the main components of the first echelon of NATO ground forces, which they will try to use in the most dangerous areas to reduce losses among contingents from Europe and the United States. The same forces can form the basis of punitive units to ensure control over the occupied territories.

Naturally, the peoples of Russia launched a partisan struggle. However, without external support, it will not last long. The indigenous population is likely to be subjected to the most brutal genocide, which no one can resist or even dare to condemn.

The scenario presented is hypothetical, but feasible. There is little chance of its implementation under the current conditions. However, they are. A war between Russia and NATO can be. Not in sight tank wedges of the 1941 model, and in a more complex, complex and multifaceted form, at the first stages, very secretive. Preparing for an attack should be identified in a timely manner and countered in the early stages.
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  1. -8
    26 February 2016 05: 39
    Fantasy of Mr. RARAN Member
    1. +25
      26 February 2016 05: 57
      The doctor of funny sciences should understand that there are not so many idiots in the West and realize that fighting against a nuclear power is not Zulus with 19th-century karamultuks in the mountains! But you can fantasize - sometimes dividends are even greater for imagination than for constructive thoughts! laughing

      But on the whole, one does not have to believe in the peace of the West - Russia has not been throat to them for a century! Especially disgusting Anglo-Saxon! We stop them from ruling the world! But they’re unlikely to fight openly. To introduce agents of influence - yes! Why do we need a military conflict, if in Russia there are Dvorkovich, Chubais, Serdyukov and others, these comrades will bring everything on a silver platter!
      1. +34
        26 February 2016 06: 08
        Quote: Finches
        that there are not so many idiots in the West

        The reality is that there are enough idiots there and most importantly they are all in power.
        Quote: Finches
        and there they realize that to fight against a nuclear power is not Zulus with 19th-century karamultuks to drive through the mountains

        If they think like Sivkov, then they don’t give themselves a report at all. Yes, and in their power fool
        1. +5
          26 February 2016 06: 19
          Alexander! Even if so, but the West is accustomed to live too well, eat sweetly and sleep softly ... The word total war frightens the consumer society, so it is unlikely that the militarist movements of idiots-leaders will find support among the broad sections of the Western population. They are there against the rapists of their wives and daughters in mini-skirts, and then they will have to go into the trenches under the bullets, God knows what values ​​... As Stanislavsky said - I do not believe it! They will crap, but stealthily!
          1. +32
            26 February 2016 06: 33
            Quote: Finches
            .. The word total war frightens the consumer society,

            It was a scarecrow sometime in the 20th century, when students were taught daily in schools how to behave in a nuclear explosion. Workers in factories were shown where the nearest bomb shelter was. In newspapers and on TV they said what could happen.
            Now there is none of this, the society does not give a damn about the prospects of a nuclear conflict, it is more interested in when AIFON 7 comes out. This society is ripe for destruction. And I'm afraid that soon I will have to harvest.
            Quote: Finches
            ..As Stanislavsky said - I do not believe it!

            If Stanislavsky survived to our days, he would have fallen ill.
            1. +1
              26 February 2016 08: 39
              It's hard to disagree about Stanislavsky! laughing
              1. +2
                26 February 2016 09: 48


                The bourgeois do nothing without calculating everything to the last fraction of a percent, and even more so on such an important issue as a war with a militarily powerful state with a vast territory and capable of destroying the whole world

                It’s not possible to calculate Russia, therefore such a scenario is only suitable for science fiction novels, of which there are already many written and many more will be written.

                Dear Konstantin Valentinovich, pursues some goals with this article, but what?

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          2. +8
            26 February 2016 06: 47
            The West is too accustomed to live, eat sweet and sleep softly ... The word total war frightens the consumer society
            Yes, but not the part that wants to obtain citizenship or the colored part of the population of NATO and the United States, for which military service is income, respect and respect. And also an opportunity to rob well in case of hostilities
            1. +4
              26 February 2016 08: 23
              [quote = Zyablitsov]Alexander! Even so, but the West is too accustomed to living, eating sweetly and sleeping softly ... They are there against the rapists of their wives and daughters in miniskirts, and then they will have to climb into the trenches under the bullets, God knows what values ​​.../ Quote]

              [quote = Furious Bambr] Yes, but not the part that wants to obtain citizenship or the colored part of the population of NATO and the United States, for which military service is income, respect and respect. And also an opportunity to rob well in case of hostilities[/ Quote]
              And they do not climb into the US and the EU to get a bullet in the ass - or, God forbid, in the head - to receive! They want to get citizenship and that "sweet life"! ...
              I watched a movie, Hollywood - "Starship Troopers", it seems, the beetles are winning ... almost won ... horror! On this occasion, on Christmas in a quiet and average American family, a gallant American guy - a Starship Trooper is escorted to the galactic front ... Traditional apple pie, fried turkey ... river whiskey ... grub, chips, hot dogs ... music, of course, dancing ... riding with girls in cars - jeeps! - at great American highway ... Negro jazz band ...
              well, and so on from the standard set ...
              They actually know what - WAR !? ready to give up apple pie and turkey? and at the same time - from this whole set ... followed by hunger ...
            2. +4
              26 February 2016 08: 38
              That's right, but the professor described the perfect description of the whole operation. But its disadvantage is that it consists of too many links. And the peculiarity is that a misfire in any of these links leads to a complete failure of the whole operation, with the opposite result for the aggressor’s expectations. That is, with ten stages of the operation, the probability of its successful completion will be 1/10! (1 in 3 million chances).
              1. +6
                26 February 2016 09: 30
                In addition, according to the scenario of the professor, it turns out that in Russia there are no state security agencies, neither intelligence nor counterintelligence, the FSB in the end. That no one reacts to their actions, but only then everyone will leave for the partisans. Idiocy.
                1. +2
                  26 February 2016 09: 59
                  However, our competent authorities allowed secret meetings of employees of the American embassy in the Urals. that it was not training America’s allies in overthrowing our leadership. But they were allowed to.
                2. +2
                  26 February 2016 11: 38
                  Quote: builder
                  In addition, according to the scenario of the professor, it turns out that in Russia there are no state security agencies, neither intelligence nor counterintelligence, the FSB in the end.

                  Apparently so. There is a small touch to the author’s biography
                  He is one of the founders of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems - independent non-governmental scientific organizationspecializing in military analytics

                  When I see the words an independent non-governmental scientific organization .... I understand that this office requires investment. Often - a lot of money.
                  The presence of sponsors in the stated position is annoying.
                3. Alf
                  0
                  26 February 2016 19: 36
                  Quote: builder
                  that in Russia there are no state security agencies, neither intelligence nor counterintelligence, the FSB in the end.

                  I have only one question, how will our, God forgive me, "elite" react when it becomes known about the beginning of the ground part of the NATO operation? Personally, it seems to me that either the president will be given an "accident" or they will immediately begin to carry out all sorts of sabotage measures and shout that they must immediately surrender in order to avoid the "horrors of war."
              2. +1
                26 February 2016 13: 07
                Quote: Mahmut
                That's right, but the professor described the perfect description of the whole operation. But its disadvantage is that it consists of too many links


                I would like to add my surprise at the oblivion of a professor in the mid to late 80s of the XX century ...
                Then, who remembers, there was a race of so-called star wars, the states called the missile defense system they were developing "Nuclear Umbrella" and were confident that after it was adopted, they could easily fight with the USSR, securing their territory ...
                At that time, their missile defense was supposedly defensive, but what kind of defense were we talking about if it made it possible to attack the USSR with impunity?
                However, our scientists literally in 2-3 years developed a system of counteraction to their "umbrella", which reduced its effectiveness to nothing ...
                And "Star Wars" barked ... However, the Soviet Union collapsed immediately afterwards ...

                What am I doing?
                Now the states are deploying the so-called missile defense system of an actually offensive action, but Putin already stated that we already have an adequate response to their missile defense ...

                I quite believe ... They couldn’t blunder it all, something remained in the archives and in their heads ...

                So, I repeat once again: it is strange that the professor "forgot" about such facts, and he should have known about them ...
          3. 0
            26 February 2016 12: 31
            They will crap, but out of the sub! So this is already happening
          4. 0
            26 February 2016 12: 34
            I’m more likely to not believe you. It’s better to overtake than not to finish.
          5. 0
            26 February 2016 20: 10
            The word total war frightens the consumer society, so it is unlikely that the militaristic movements of idiots-leaders will find support among wide sections of the Western population.
            And if you think about Germany? When they announced to Drang nach Osten all-out war was out of the question. They were promised an easy walk, land and slaves in the east. Approximately in this vein, propaganda is being conducted in the west, i.e. Russia is a universal evil, but we will press the button and an immediate victory. That is why, according to them, Russia has a "rusty and outdated" army. In order not to frighten in advance the townsfolk (future cannon fodder) who will again have to die in Russia.
        2. -4
          26 February 2016 06: 42
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          If they think like Sivkov, then they don’t give themselves a report at all. Yes, and in their power

          It would not have happened that he thinks with their thoughts, so to speak, the 6th paid column.
          1. +1
            26 February 2016 06: 43
            Quote: Locksmith

            It would not have happened that he thinks with their thoughts, so to speak, the 6th paid column.

            Who are they?
            6 column is who?
            1. 0
              26 February 2016 21: 26
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Who are they?
              6 column is who?

              the same fifth column, but no longer in power, although it has influence on power ...
        3. +3
          26 February 2016 09: 36
          The main thing is that
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          they all
          !
          Everything is relative.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          in power with them
          and with us, Thank God enough.
          I remember, last spring, you stated "the end of Syria," but it didn't work out. And the War (just like that, with a capital letter) did not stop. If tomorrow Russia is taken and suddenly moved, removed from the planet, then the rest will quickly restore, even with damage and losses, even in virtual, but will recreate an image, a kind of pseudo that he needs like water and air. They need an enemy, for they feed on fornication and their fear, and by this they determine the meaning of "their belly."
      2. +5
        26 February 2016 07: 11
        Quote: Zyablitsov To introduce agents of influence - yes! Why do we need a military conflict, if in Russia there are Dvorkovich, Chubais, Serdyukov and others, these comrades will bring everything on a silver platter!

        Author: Konstantin Sivkov, corresponding member of RARAN, doctor of military sciences, that’s who has been hiding all these years, under the pseudonym Burke al Atomi! belay The author writes as in the "Marauder".
        Only without Ahmet, a pity, a colorful character.
        At the expense of all Dvorkovich. I don’t know, but why should they change the real power for the master’s? Simply, they consider themselves "Hefe" and the budget is endless.
        1. +1
          26 February 2016 08: 28
          [quote = avva2012] [quote] Posted by Konstantin Sivkov, Corresponding Member of RARAN, Doctor of Military Sciences, who has been hiding all these years under the pseudonym Burke Al Atomi! [/ quote]
          Actually - Berkem al Atomi is Asiya Kashapova ... a friend ...
          1. 0
            26 February 2016 08: 41
            Quote: CONTROL Actually - Berkem al Atomi is Asiya Kashapova ... a friend ...


            Actually, it was a joke. belay
            Not a linguist, but in terms of style, that "Ural", that "Marauder", that "Punisher", blows more with a masculine look. In general, I have a feeling that several authors are hiding under Berkem.
      3. +1
        26 February 2016 08: 35
        "There are not so many idiots in the West" ... perhaps, but for some reason they are in power, these go .. they, they are also greedy (the country's raw materials are haunted) and to maintain the dollar as a world currency, they must destroy Russia, because time is playing against the United States, so all this whipping up of hysteria around Russia must be taken seriously.
      4. +2
        26 February 2016 09: 34
        In 1941, many generals and Comrade Stalin did not believe that Hitler could attack .... They scoffed at intelligence and military analysts. And what did it lead to ... And now the Americans have much more opportunities to deliver a quick and powerful blow to Russia than the previous opponent had in the distant 41st ... The most important thing for them is to convince their voters of the need to commit such an act. And tell them that "we won't get anything for this."
      5. -2
        26 February 2016 10: 37
        MEMBER completely forgot about the allies of the Russian Federation, at least for the CSTO + India, China, etc.
        1. Alf
          0
          26 February 2016 19: 47
          Quote: skrabplus.ru
          MEMBER completely forgot about the allies of the Russian Federation, at least by the CSTO

          Who is there in the CSTO who can REALLY oppose something militarily to NATO? Armenia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan? Don't make me laugh. In the event of a big massacre without nuclear weapons, these, God forgive me, "countries" will slowly crawl to the sides, praying not to be touched.
          Quote: skrabplus.ru
          India

          India? Rather, India will cling to Pakistan.
          Quote: skrabplus.ru
          China

          China? Well, well, blessed is he who believes.
          These countries are members of the Collective Security Treaty Organization as long as Russia is there. When Russia begins to fight, these countries will take the position of France in the Russo-Japanese War. The action of the Franco-Russian Union is valid only in Europe.
      6. +1
        26 February 2016 10: 41
        Quote: Finches
        The doctor of funny sciences must understand that there are not so many idiots in the West and they realize that to fight against a nuclear power is not Zulus with 19th-century karamultuks to drive through the mountains!

        “They also argued before both Worlds.”

        Pope Julius III said: "If you only knew how little intelligence they rule the world with!"

        One thing reassures me - I believe that, as always, the adversary, who calculated everything down to a millimeter and up to a second, forgot or omitted an insignificant "trifle", which always turns into an unexpectedly popped gag for him and, as always, where they did not expect ...
        1. +1
          26 February 2016 21: 06
          Quote: iConst
          One thing reassures me - I believe that, as always, the adversary, who calculated everything down to a millimeter and up to a second, forgot or omitted an insignificant "trifle", which always turns into an unexpectedly popped gag for him and, as always, where they did not expect ...

          This "trifle", which all our enemies, the Russian people, cannot define. As it sounds not pretentious, but still true. People-warriors. Only such a people can conquer and hold huge territories. And I have no doubt that temporarily the fallen territories, repeatedly watered with the sweat and blood of our ancestors, will be returned back, and it is very likely that they were previously cleaned of all dirt.
          You might think that everything is cloudless in the NATO countries. Yes, they will soon be cutting themselves on the lawn with the broads. And at the moment I would even doubt whether to put on the burghers if the camels massively begin to use suicide bombers in crowded Europeans.
          And the Americans have their pullback different pies "Harlem" .If used here have a special service prepared b with a couple of dozen snipers shooting niggas on white mattress, the ball rolled from the mountain to znatnyy.Nabiraya only obomy.I momentum and then the Cowboys would have been a long time not up to us.
          And no snot. What they do against us other than as a war is not called ... only while they add different characteristics ... economic, cold,
      7. 0
        26 February 2016 12: 32
        Quote: Finches
        The doctor of funny sciences should understand that there are not so many idiots in the West and realize that fighting against a nuclear power is not Zulus with 19th-century karamultuks in the mountains! But you can fantasize - sometimes dividends are even greater for imagination than for constructive thoughts! laughing

        But on the whole, one does not have to believe in the peace of the West - Russia has not been throat to them for a century! Especially disgusting Anglo-Saxon! We stop them from ruling the world! But they’re unlikely to fight openly. To introduce agents of influence - yes! Why do we need a military conflict, if in Russia there are Dvorkovich, Chubais, Serdyukov and others, these comrades will bring everything on a silver platter!




        the worst thing is not to evaluate the enemy. in all time, millions of victims were not appreciated until Germany. the same rake for the third time so maybe you need to attach the ax to the handle so that it finally comes
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    3. +14
      26 February 2016 06: 00
      For some reason I do not believe that from modern Western society "in a short period" propaganda can create something combat-ready. There are countless examples. Poles and Ukrainians are another matter. But here, too, not everything is so simple. Society is not homogeneous there either. And in order to unite it, direct aggression from Russia is needed, and it just won't happen. In one thing I absolutely agree with the author, Russia is simply obliged to build up its power to such an extent that Western analysts, politicians and the military, at the mere thought of an attack on Russia, would begin involuntary defecation!
      1. +9
        26 February 2016 06: 15
        For some reason I do not believe that from modern Western society "in a short period" propaganda can create something battle-worthy
        Western society is also capable of surprises. I’m sure that we didn’t think that the EU would impose sanctions against the Russian Federation, to the detriment of itself. But the fact has happened. Yes, there are Europeans who volunteered in the national regiments of Ukraine, who came to fight against the Russian Federation.
        1. 0
          26 February 2016 09: 30
          Merkel introduced one of the sanctions, or Hollande Mistral didn’t give up, and it’s completely different for a couple of homosexuals to get out of a warm bed and shoot people like us in a trench
      2. +3
        26 February 2016 09: 28
        Quote: bocsman
        Here Poles and Ukrainians are another matter


        Um ... They are brave and hamovity until Russia showed her teeth, claws and gave her fist along the ridge ...

        And while Russia didn’t even touch them a little ... Crimea doesn’t count, everything happened almost peacefully there ...

        PS And the script that Sivkov described was played at the General Staff more than once in Soviet times ... So, Sivkov did not come up with anything new and uncanny ... But for the average man (for grandmothers at the porches) the horror story is significant ...
      3. Alf
        +1
        26 February 2016 19: 48
        Quote: bocsman
        Russia is simply obliged to increase its power

        In order to build up military power, it is necessary to build up economic power, but with this it is getting worse and worse.
    4. +7
      26 February 2016 06: 31
      Why fantasy, quite logical conclusions from the current external and internal political and social situation in Russia.
    5. -4
      26 February 2016 06: 34
      Sivkov -in his repertoire ... why does this "MEMBER" RARAN smoke?
    6. +6
      26 February 2016 07: 04
      Quote: Volka
      Fantasy of Mr. RARAN Member

      Why fantasy? All this very much can be. Idiots ready to press the red buttons, they have enough. Therefore, until the United States is destroyed, the described scenario is quite real.
    7. +2
      26 February 2016 09: 50
      I completely agree, when I don’t believe that the western burgher, after oktoberfest, will climb into the trenches to feed lice. To risk and to know that the nuclear confrontation may end up with the living envy the dead - in Europe units, unless the patients are crazy hospitals. Comparison with Hitler’s Germany, unsuccessfully, because now in Europe there is not any kind of revanchist sentiment, and in the USA, judging by D. Trump's successes, isolationist sentiments are very strong.
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    9. +1
      26 February 2016 10: 57
      What nonsense ?! It seems that the author was stuck somewhere in the mid-90s ... Having belittled his own army and people, but raised the capabilities of the NATO armies. Even if we drop nuclear weapons, all this bunch of European NATO members will trample on us ....? author wake up !!! The basis of the confrontation is the USA, the rest are auxiliary. And this is a completely different story.
    10. +1
      26 February 2016 12: 01
      Something to me, this Sivkov, frankly began to bother. Tired already with his ideas about the war. This general from the 90s predicted us the third world.
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      0
      26 February 2016 14: 57
      The article is very similar to the works of science fiction futurists
  2. -22
    26 February 2016 05: 47
    China will help us
    1. +7
      26 February 2016 05: 52
      if you give Siberia
      1. +3
        26 February 2016 06: 18
        That Siberia just want to pick up the Americans!
    2. +2
      26 February 2016 06: 21
      In the "optimization" of the northern territories through quiet expansion. Maybe the LADY will help him, otherwise his head is spinning from such open spaces. Won the Far Eastern hydrocarbons to the Japanese!
    3. +5
      26 February 2016 06: 29
      It will not help, but most likely will join the invasion and try to bite off the Russian Far East and Amur Region.
      1. -4
        26 February 2016 06: 45
        Quote: Ugrumiy
        It will not help, but most likely will join the invasion and try to bite off the Russian Far East and Amur Region.

        Does the USA have friends in China? Why do you think the Chinese are idiots?
        1. +1
          26 February 2016 08: 54
          The Chinese are not our enemies. But if the country falls apart they will take the Far East for themselves. Do not give it to the amers or Yap ... So they will not start to beat us, but they can finish ...
          1. 0
            26 February 2016 09: 43
            If the Chinese will capture something, then this is Mongolia and will move to Asia - Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, they need countries with a moderately favorable climate, and in the future they may no longer need energy resources, as an example there will be a breakthrough in thermonuclear energy and China will take full advantage, and as regards rare-earth metals, 97% of all explored reserves of rare metals are concentrated in China.
    4. 0
      26 February 2016 09: 26
      Settle Siberia?
  3. +9
    26 February 2016 05: 47
    Well, let them come! LET'S MEET WITH DIGNITY! DESERT LAND FOR THEIR GRAVES ENOUGH WITH A RESERVE! Alexander Nevsky used to say: "Whoever comes to us with a sword WILL DIE FROM THE SWORD!" AND WE ARE WORSE THAN OUR ANCESTORS, WHAT IS ?!
    1. -8
      26 February 2016 06: 35
      Yes, and it was this adopted son of Batu who brought the Tatar-Mongol to Russia, together with whom he crushed the uprising against the conquerors, which his brother Andrei raised.
      What can you do, politics, money and power ...
      1. +7
        26 February 2016 07: 57
        Quote: Ugrumiy
        Yes, and it was this adopted son of Batu who brought the Tatar-Mongol to Russia, together with whom he crushed the uprising against the conquerors, which his brother Andrei raised.
        What can you do, politics, money and power ...

        Andrew raised a rebellion? what Your affairs are wonderful, Lord! He refused to go to Horde to redistribute the grand-princely label - after all, Andrei himself received the label against the will of Batu, but at the request of the great khan Guyuk, and after the death of Guyuk, the great khan Munke gave these questions for Batu to solve, so he directed Nevruy against Andrei, and Kuremsa - against his father-in-law D. Galitsky - to pacify rebellious princes. This was not an uprising - it’s just that Andrei didn’t bet and lose on the Horde, that's all. And how he became a great prince - it deserves attention! Guyuk personally gave the reigning label in the capital of the Mongol power Karokorum. And nobody asked the desire of the Khan of the Golden Horde of Batu.
        Interestingly, how did Alexander bring the Mongols to Russia? In 1223, during the Battle of Kalka, Alexander was 2 years old. During the invasion of Batu in 1237 - 16 years old, and he was a prince in Novgorod, and had no relations with the Tatars. Tatishchev at one time suggested that Alexander in the Horde with Sartak, the son of Batu, accused his brother Andrei of incomplete payment of tribute, which was the reason for Nevyruy’s campaign against Andrei in 1252. But this is just Tatishchev’s assumption - and that’s all! And of course, one cannot assume that the conquest of Russia happened in this way!
        But after 4 years, Andrei returned to Russia from Sweden to Alexander, he reconciled him with the Horde and gave inheritance to Gorodets and N. Novgorod, and then Suzdal. It is unlikely that the rebel could have done it!
  4. +14
    26 February 2016 05: 52
    It is generally accepted that a major nuclear war means the end of life on Earth. In every way, this is repeated by experts and ordinary people, not to mention journalists.
    Unfortunately, this is not the case. Hiroshima and Nagasaki began to rebuild almost immediately after the event. Radiation is declining exponentially, after a year the radiation level is close to the background. According to modern ideas, there will be no nuclear winter. Yes, hundreds of millions will perish, but when did those in power scare such things? The main thing is that they have a chance to sit out in shelters for a year or three and get their hands on a planet with many problems that are now uncomfortable for them.
    That is why "unfortunately". Previous generations of politicians, oligarchs and military men frightened themselves and everyone on the planet with this threat of total destruction, the current ones are not afraid of it. Therefore, the likelihood of BP is so great.
    1. -1
      26 February 2016 05: 56
      Please explain your idea, minus signer.
    2. +4
      26 February 2016 06: 20
      But you sir did not think about what they will see and who will be met by those "gentlemen" who, in your opinion, can sit out in a bomb shelter !? And how will they be greeted by those who may, I repeat, possibly survive in a nuclear war ?! Of course, many in the West with mental development are somehow not very much, but not so much! They will scare, make their mongrels bark from behind the fence, harm in every possible way, but no fight, the guts are thin!
      And at the expense of the one who survives in the nuclear war, Africa. Well, the black guys will avenge centuries of oppression against the colonists!
      1. +5
        26 February 2016 06: 49
        And what will be difficult for the director of the earth to control black? Methods worked out for centuries. Well, under the guise and their numbers will be greatly reduced. Genetic weapons have been developed for decades.
        So at the exit from their holes they will encounter a very thinning white population, many crippled, affected by radiation sickness, but able to work and consume. Many survivors in Hiroshima and Nagasaki survived to old age.
        Understand that they really hope to destroy Russia as a state, but to get our territory and everything that is stored in it. The theory of the golden billion has not been canceled. And according to it, the entire territory of the former USSR should have only 30-40 million people. And what does it matter to them that it will be a hungry and sick population?
        The stubborn planting of ideas that a general atomic war is impossible is just designed to hide preparations for it.
        I add that the radiation situation on the planet in a couple of years will no longer be dangerous. Look at the atolls where the nuclear tests were carried out, wild vegetation, larger fruits and many animals. Nuclear accidents such as Fuchsima and Chernobyl are more dangerous. Another isotopic composition of the infection is more long-lived isotopes.
        That is why I say "unfortunately". The Director of the Earth and his henchmen know all this and have long since calculated the consequences and are not afraid of them.
    3. +3
      26 February 2016 06: 54
      Quote: armored optimist
      Hiroshima and Nagasaki began to rebuild almost immediately after the event. Radiation is declining exponentially, after a year the radiation level is close to the background. According to modern ideas, there will be no nuclear winter. Yes, hundreds of millions will perish, but when did those in power scare such things? The main thing is that they have a chance to sit out in shelters for a year or three and get their hands on a planet with many problems that are now uncomfortable for them.

      Yes, it is possible that Hirishima and Nagasaki began rebuilding soon enough. But the level of freaks and mutants born after these events is sharply higher than in other parts of Japan. Thus, the consequences are still sensitive today. And that's just two explosions. In a nuclear conflict, the maximum possible potential of the accumulated nuclear weapons will be used. The targets will be centers of industry and technology. Part of the ammunition will be detonated in the air by missile defense systems, and these are vast areas of EMP impact. In short, to write statements like yours, you must, at a minimum, lead the department of special research in this industry. The PPP level does not roll and looks either as a provocation or a terrible denseness. In fact, the article - the author is clearly from the "hawks", catching up with horror. Every general (colonel or "cap-1", especially after a long service in the General Staff) dreams of fighting (by proxy), every military-industrial complex wants to tear off a fatter piece from the budget. Sometimes this is superimposed on senile insanity. Collect all his predictions, which of them came true? These forecasts sell well in print and give an acceptable standard of living for the author. Your (and our) sleepless nights, the author doesn't care. Brekhanul into the air, and there, though, do not dawn.
      1. +4
        26 February 2016 07: 04
        Everything that you write will be valid. But who from high society are afraid of mutations and diseases in the lower strata?
        Add here that even without war the levels of affordable medicine for the rich and for the poor vary greatly, up to a significant extension of life using implantology and other methods.
        "The targets will be centers of industry and technology" And not the taiga, Baikal and other Altai with Siberia. Where can they get to?
        EMR is nothing at all in such a thing. The short-term action that was stored off in shielded storages will not be affected. And that the population will burn everything, so figs with him. Hoes and EMP shovels are not afraid.
        1. +2
          26 February 2016 08: 53
          Quote: armored optimist
          But who from high society are afraid of mutations and diseases in the lower strata?

          "High" society is, by definition, a society of parasites, a consumer society that is critically dependent on producers of services and consumer goods. You are in vain tearing society into two parts independent from each other. The prosperity of a small part of "high society" is associated with the capabilities of the plebeians and their technologies, a healthy ecology of the place of production of consumer goods, and most importantly, with the consent of the plebeians to resignedly provide this "high society".
          Quote: armored optimist
          Everything that you write will be valid. But who from high society are afraid of mutations and diseases in the lower strata?
          Add here that even without war the levels of affordable medicine for the rich and for the poor vary greatly, up to a significant extension of life using implantology and other methods.
          "The targets will be centers of industry and technology" And not the taiga, Baikal and other Altai with Siberia. Where can they get to?
          EMR is nothing at all in such a thing. The short-term action that was stored off in shielded storages will not be affected. And that the population will burn everything, so figs with him. Hoes and EMP shovels are not afraid.

          You reason primitively. To recreate the economy destroyed in one part of the Earth in another part is not an idle question, it requires tension, funds, materials and healthy labor resources. "Hoes and shovels ..." - You are probably watching the processes from a parallel world. And the rolls outside the window grow on branches ...
          1. 0
            26 February 2016 09: 53
            In the event of such a war, Russia has Rosrezerv - it has everything necessary to restore infrastructure, even bridges across all the country's rivers.
      2. 0
        26 February 2016 09: 50
        In Chernobyl, there was a release of radioactive elements, as in the explosion from 600 to 1000 Hiroshima atomic bombs, and where there mutations - only cancer, as a side effect.
    4. +4
      26 February 2016 07: 24
      Quote: armored optimist Unfortunately, this is not so. Hiroshima and Nagasaki began to rebuild almost immediately after the event. Radiation is declining exponentially, after a year the level of radiation is close to the background.

      Hiroshima and Nagasaki, forgive me for nothing. In addition, the power of explosions will be disproportionate, and industrial enterprises, where are you going? A burning oil, taiga, Amazonian selva? Plus tsunamis, earthquakes, emission of billions tons of combustion products into the upper atmosphere. I read somewhere that there may be problems with ozone, because, gas itself is quite chemical. active. Also, they wrote that the magnetic poles of the planet can shift. So, hoping that someone will stay in shelters is a fantasy and nothing more.
      1. +1
        26 February 2016 07: 33
        Make a mistake, this is your right!
        Calm yourself and convince others that there are no fools too! They will never do it! Contribute to their propaganda.
        Everything described by you is possible. Two to three billion people of the planet may die. But life will not end there.
        1. +3
          26 February 2016 07: 48
          Quote: armored optimist But life will not end there.

          Lack of an ozone layer? The likelihood that water will change its properties and become a chem. active?
          And if the magnetic poles change, then that's it, "the end of the film." All life will die along with the location of the continents, oceans (if they remain at all). There are mathematical calculations that give the option of stopping the rotation of the planet around its axis. The disappearance of the planet's magnetic field is also not a fantasy. Mars.
          1. +1
            26 February 2016 08: 10
            What does the change in poles have to do with it? What does the lack of an ozone layer have to do with it? Have you seen enough of Prokopenko? We are talking about nuclear war. Existing nuclear weapons are insufficient for such impacts. And to believe in the end of the world from a nuclear war is to "pour water on the mill of world imperialism"
            1. +1
              26 February 2016 08: 35
              Quote: armored optimist What does the change in poles have to do with it? What does the lack of an ozone layer have to do with it? Have you seen enough of Prokopenko? We are talking about nuclear war. Existing nuclear weapons are insufficient for such impacts. And to believe in the end of the world from a nuclear war is to "pour water on the mill of world imperialism"

              Despite the fact that there are mathematical models of a similar end of nuclear explosions. Prokopenko did not read. I don’t even know who it is. I read in due time on paper, due to the fact that the Internet was not yet there. I will not prompt authors, I do not remember.
              And, without the ozone layer, it is also impossible to live. What, absolutely. In a nutshell, I will not explain the mechanism of destruction of this layer itself.
              What wrote andj61, below, this is a classic that no serious scientist can refute. Enough to the ears, even without a magnetic field.
              Less, also not mine. The opinion of the opponent in the discussions, I never evaluate.
              1. 0
                26 February 2016 09: 41
                Quote: avva2012
                A, it is not possible to live without the ozone layer. What, absolutely. In a nutshell, I will not explain the mechanism destruction of this very layer.


                Hmm ... I'm afraid it seems funny, but, it seems to methe same ozone layer protects us humans from excessive exposure to solar radiation...

                If I'm wrong - correct ...
                1. +1
                  26 February 2016 09: 56
                  Quote: weksha50 Hmm ... I'm afraid it seems ridiculous, but, it seems to me, the same ozone layer protects us people from excessive exposure to solar radiation ...
                  If I'm wrong - correct ...

                  Right, of course. No ozone layer, no other radiation needed. I meant that I will not explain, in detail in the commentary, the mechanism for the destruction of the ozone layer. "According to the report of the US National Academy of Sciences, in a world nuclear war, up to 10 Mt of nuclear charges can be detonated, which will lead to the destruction of the ozone layer by 000% over the Northern Hemisphere and 70% over the Southern Hemisphere."
                  1. 0
                    26 February 2016 13: 13
                    Quote: avva2012
                    I will not explain, in detail in the commentary, the mechanism of destruction of the ozone layer.



                    Most likely (and first of all) the ozone layer will be destroyed by air and space nuclear explosions of air defense and missile defense systems ... How this layer is destroyed when spacecraft are put into orbit ... Each launch of any rocket with satellites or crews is accompanied by another hole .. .

                    Well and then, back in the late 80s, there were combat platforms with nuclear-pumped laser guns, to increase the effectiveness of which it was necessary to carry out nuclear explosions in space ...

                    In general, how to destroy the ozone layer - a person has already found means and mechanisms for a long time, but alas, no ...
          2. 0
            26 February 2016 09: 42
            Well, the kinetic energy of the Earth’s rotation will not go anywhere. Unless you give it an impulse, the reverse direction of rotation. Therefore, the rotation of the planet will continue
        2. +2
          26 February 2016 08: 40
          Quote: armored optimist
          Make a mistake, this is your right!
          Calm yourself and convince others that there are no fools too! They will never do it! Contribute to their propaganda.
          Everything described by you is possible. Two to three billion people of the planet may die. But life will not end there.

          Look - almost for children - the film "Through the Thorns to the Stars"; and - take a closer look and listen to the actor Fedorov-Turanchoks ...
          ... and Ledogorov: "... we thought - enough for our century ... But - not enough!"
          ... or to show you our Russian tundra after the "Chernomyrdin oil production"? ... these "Martian landscapes"? ...
          Ecology is a delicate and fragile thing! Not to mention a man - to give birth, grow, educate - you need a couple of decades; and strengths and means ... and nerves and patience ... But to kill this miracle of nature - living !, given with such difficulty - a second is enough! ...
      2. 0
        26 February 2016 09: 54
        And why is the Amazon Selva burning?
      3. -1
        26 February 2016 09: 57
        In 1815, a volcano explosion threw billions of tons of ash, soot and dust into the 140 atmosphere, and this did not lead to the end of the world, nor did this eruption of 800 megatons power lead to a change in magnetic poles.
        1. 0
          26 February 2016 10: 20
          Quote: Vadim237 In 1815, a volcano explosion threw billions of tons of ash, soot and dust into the 140 atmosphere, and this did not lead to the end of the world, nor did this eruption of 800 megatons power lead to a change in magnetic poles.

          Vadim, you already wrote about this in your comments. It's hard to argue, not you, not me, we are not scientists. A reasoned argument, as well as an explanation of why an ulcer did not occur during the explosion of a volcano, can be conducted by a scientist in a certain area.
          The mathematical model of nuclear weapons and the destruction of the entire biosphere of the Earth, exists not the first year. This model has been worked out both in the USSR and in the USA. Until recently, by serious scientists, this model has never been disputed. I, personally, as a doctor and a person who does not understand much in biology, agree with her at 100%. Not being a physicist and ecologist, I take the conclusions of professionals for faith that in the case of nuclear explosives, there will be no more kin.
          1. 0
            26 February 2016 14: 32
            "Nuclear winter" is a beautiful myth not connected with reality - how many soot ash they had there - "150 million and 500 million tons, the hit of such an amount would lead to a temperature drop at the equator to zero degrees, and in northern latitudes to minus 50 degrees - if we compare their conclusions with the explosion of the Tambor volcano or others, then we should have died several hundred times already, and the planet would turn into a huge glacier, and we, on the contrary, are alive, now it is February and outside the window + 2 degrees, the explosions of thousands of atomic explosions will lead to an emission several million tons of CO2, which will lead to an increase in the greenhouse effect, as well as to the evaporation of a huge amount of moisture, from fires, which will lead to powerful downpours that will return all soot, dust and radiation back to the ground and by the way, the calculations of these scientists - inventors of nuclear winter, I do not where I have not found, only inferences are without formulas, which gives grounds to believe that there were no calculations.
    5. +4
      26 February 2016 08: 21
      Quote: armored optimist
      It is generally accepted that a major nuclear war means the end of life on Earth. In every way, this is repeated by experts and ordinary people, not to mention journalists.
      Unfortunately, this is not so. Hiroshima and Nagasaki began to rebuild almost immediately after the event. Radiation is declining exponentially, after a year the level of radiation is close to the background.

      What is "unfortunately"? That life on Earth will be preserved?
      Life will be preserved, but it will not be the same as it was before the nuclear war. There will be another era - the era of post-apocalypse. And they are unlikely to be able to hope for world domination - with a sharp drop in the technical level and the impossibility of even maintaining and using modern technology, this is technically unfeasible - and competent people perfectly understand this.
      And "nuclear winter" is just a beautiful image. It may not be nuclear, but "in winter" - this is for sure. Even the explosions of single volcanoes like Krakatoa on the other end of the Earth led for a year or two to a practical absence of summer in European Russia - only due to the release of dust into the upper atmosphere ... Do you think the explosions of thousands - taking into account strategic and tactical - nuclear weapons - will bring less dust emission? Think much more!
      In Hiroshima and Nagasaki, reconstruction work really began a few days after the explosions. But this only says that the Japanese - and no one in the world then - did not realize the real danger of radiation. In Chernobyl, a bunch of contaminated territories remain so in 30 years. Yes, the radiation level has dropped significantly - but this is not "a year or three" ... And now it is dangerous to live there. And there is objective evidence of this - for example, statistics of thyroid cancer and other cancers in people living or living in the southwestern districts of the Bryansk region. Although now a number of territories have been transferred to a "clean" zone due to a decrease in radiation levels. But it did not happen a year or three after the accident, but 25-30 years later ...
      The minus is not mine.
      1. +1
        26 February 2016 08: 56
        Read carefully - Unfortunately, apologists for the war are not afraid of its possible consequences.
        Read carefully - in Chernobyl and Fukushima, long-lived isotopes, while "ordinary", non-neutron atomic bombs give mostly short-lived ones, so it’s just a year or three.
        And where will the technical level go? Does EMR affect brains too? Or, in an explosion in Europe, a plant in Japan and Australia shatters into fluff? And why will it be impossible to service the equipment? Does EMP disable ALL equipment forever? Read smart books. The impulse acts for a second, while the mostly involved technique with the absent or insufficient protection against EMR is affected. So if your laptop was not turned on at the time of the explosion, then most likely it will not suffer. By the way, and most of the small equipment that does not have long conductors. The radio transparency of the atmosphere is restored from units of hours to 2-3 days.
        As for Krakatau and other Yoflatlayokudley - raise the numbers, all nuclear weapons on earth are not comparable in power with them.
        As for the effect of radiation on humans - people earn money by speculating on these stories. How actually radiation affects science still knows very little. Widely hushed up facts Cure from many diseases, including cancer and cancer, in the affected areas. It is surprising to still hear the messages in the angry tone of commentators - In Japan, at the age of 103, another hibakusha died from the effects of a nuclear explosion in Hiroshima.
        1. 0
          26 February 2016 09: 16
          Quote: armored optimist As for the effect of radiation on humans - people earn money by speculating on these stories. How radiation actually affects science still knows very little.

          The appearance of free radicals inside cells is, as it were, long known. The fact that they, i.e., CP, tear, including mitochondrial DNA chains, is not a very favorable fact for the cell.
          The facts of CURING from many diseases, including PM and cancer, in the affected areas are widely ignored.

          Who are silent?
          Who and where received the nobel for curing cancer?
          Why i do not know?
          And, radiation sickness is also treated, that is, from scratch, restore the blood sprout in the bone marrow?
          Do you happen to write about extraterrestrial technology?
          1. +1
            26 February 2016 09: 31
            I do not claim that radiation is useful. I say that science does not have complete knowledge of it. Radiation has a fairly wide spectrum, so at the same level measured by the dosimeter, in one case one effect on the body, in another another.
            In general, the discussion dragged on, and in my first post I just wanted to say that those who decide to use or not use nuclear weapons in the West are not afraid of this, they don’t think that this is the end of their life together with everyone. They have everything calculated.
            Honestly, I don’t see what to argue about.
        2. +1
          26 February 2016 09: 46
          In my opinion, you are a chronic optimist.
          1. 0
            26 February 2016 10: 32
            Armored.
            1. 0
              26 February 2016 11: 01
              Lead panties, do not know where to get it?
        3. 0
          26 February 2016 10: 48
          Quote: armored optimist
          And where will the technical level go? Does EMR affect brains too? Or, in an explosion in Europe, a plant in Japan and Australia shatters into fluff? And why will it be impossible to service the equipment? Does EMP disable ALL equipment forever?

          EMP is only ONE of the factors, unpleasant, but not the worst. The main thing is in another. There will be nuclear explosions all over the Earth, including Japan and Australia. Just in case, not to leave strong competitors. And in China .. If Russia and the United States exchange blows, then China will also get - after the war, superpowers are not needed! - And from Russia, and from the USA - and for very, very many others. Satellites will be knocked down - by the same nuclear explosions in space. Of course, they won’t destroy everything, many fly too high, especially navigation ones, but many will cease to function. Normal trading communications will cease - and after all, many components of various equipment and devices are being made all over the world - and production will cease after stockpiling, even if nuclear munitions are not delivered to enterprises. The most important elements of infrastructure, power plants - in the first place, will be destroyed. And to restore them will be a task, oh what a non-trivial task precisely because of the cooperation of any production around the world.
          In the United States, due to an accident in the power system, a collapse for a week on the east coast occurred - and there were no nuclear strikes ... And if you hit - can you imagine WHAT will happen? Yes, plus an obvious lack of equipment and materials for replacement - a long-term collapse of the industry is guaranteed. And this is in the event that the states will remain in their current form - and this also raises great doubts. Moreover, take into account not the virtual, but quite real factor of the "nuclear winter" - and it must be taken into account - for at least 5-6 years. No one has such a supply of food, therefore, in developed countries, 90 percent of the people will at least die.
          And people in the bunkers can perfectly calculate this. Moreover, consider that on top, near the bunker, there may be survivors who do not burn with the desire to obey these same ones - who in the bunker, but on the contrary, will have a great desire to punish those who have settled in the bunkers for their short and full of suffering life.
          1. 0
            26 February 2016 12: 52
            You evaluate all this from the point of view of a simple person. And from the point of view of the oligarchs and other magnates, this is all a reason to make good money.
      2. 0
        26 February 2016 09: 05
        Of course, a war of the West against Russia cannot be ruled out in any case, the whole history of the West's relations with Russia clearly tells us about it! Taking into account the experience of the past, it is necessary to be ready not only for "petty dirty tricks" but also for open aggression, all the more "firecrackers" are quite enough for this, well, at least our former so-called "fraternal peoples", these are on the first command "fas "the first to rush into the" meat grinder "! And before talking about the fact that at the top of the West not everything is d and o s, then remember at least the history of the revival of the 3rd Reich, and who, for what and against whom and for what purposes recreated it !! ??? True, in the current situation it is quite problematic to sit out overseas, but it looks like the true rulers and organizers of the "world mess" have long been somewhere in a safe place! And all the so-called. The "leaders" of the Western world are just puppets in the hands of true puppeteers! This is who needs to be searched for and destroyed, and the peoples themselves will somehow figure it out if these "bloodsuckers" are not there!
    6. 0
      26 February 2016 09: 47
      The ecology of the Earth is well obscured by decay products such as Strontium 90, Cesium 137 and Carbon 14.
      1. 0
        26 February 2016 10: 34
        Horns and tails will become the accepted norm, not the privilege of the elect. But we will live.
        1. +1
          26 February 2016 11: 04
          There are enough tails now. Students will not let lie. Well, and at the expense of the horns, here, without JAV, you’ll be lucky with your wife. laughing
        2. 0
          27 February 2016 10: 38
          After Chernobyl there were no horns or hooves - it’s a fact - so don’t worry about this.
  5. +2
    26 February 2016 05: 54
    if there is anything to bury from them! am
    Quote: 0895055116
    Well, let them come! LET'S MEET WITH DIGNITY! DESERT LAND FOR THEIR GRAVES ENOUGH WITH A RESERVE! Alexander Nevsky used to say: "Whoever comes to us with a sword WILL DIE FROM THE SWORD!" AND WE ARE WORSE THAN OUR ANCESTORS, WHAT IS ?!
  6. +1
    26 February 2016 05: 55
    Heh .., hypothetical little attacks on us and aliens can attack, it is also necessary to prepare for such a scenario.
  7. +1
    26 February 2016 06: 00
    some kind of panic article what
    1. +4
      26 February 2016 06: 25
      in the 41st, they also demanded from the intelligent and knowledgeable "SILENCE", "DO NOT UNDERSTAND".
      And Kuznetsov - Admiral - WISE. According to this, one fleet resisted and remained combat-ready!
      Does history not teach anything ???
      1. +2
        26 February 2016 08: 41
        No need to sing war songs from other people's words. Kuznetsov did not really fulfill his desire, but complied with the order of the General Staff on bringing the troops and fleets on alert. By the way, and he is not alone. So there can be no talk of a feat here. Rather, military discipline and responsibility. And this is why the Belarusian Special District has not complied with the directive; disputes are still ongoing. I agree with those historians who write that Pavlov was most likely out of place as a military leader of this level. Yes, he became hostage to difficult circumstances, since the district was on the line of not only the main blow of the Germans, but also the zone of active work of sabotage groups. But this is a disaster - he is not a tank commander who can redeem everything with his personal courage, but a district commander who failed to do everything possible to maintain the combat readiness of the troops, all the more so as a number of historians write that the troops were still on June 18 The directive on bringing them into full combat readiness has gone. So after all, its own district intelligence constantly gave disturbing information. Didn’t want or couldn’t - is that the question? I am inclined to the second option. But if he took up the tug, then do not say that not a dozen. And then the measure of responsibility is determined by the severity of the deed. In our case, the result of inaction, not taking proper measures. Oh, something, but the army is strong in discipline. So Kuznetsov - well done, but do not exaggerate his merits.
        1. 0
          26 February 2016 08: 48
          Quote: oracul Didn’t want or couldn’t - is that the question? I am inclined to the second option.

          And if, after all, a Trotskyist?
          I am inclined to the opinion that the army was not in vain purged. Of course, innocent people also fell for various reasons. But I have a feeling that with Pavlov, this is not the case.
          1. 0
            26 February 2016 11: 37
            Pavlov, Rychagov, Smushkevich, Loktionov and others received ranks and posts after repressions of the late 30s. If there had been no mass executions in 1937-1938, they would have occupied much more modest posts.
        2. 0
          26 February 2016 08: 59
          Quote: oracul
          Kuznetsov did not really fulfill his desire, but complied with the order of the General Staff on bringing the troops and fleets on alert. By the way, and not he alone

          It is worth adding that the fleet is more compact and manageable in comparison with the military district. The communications facilities of the fleet and the call defense system are incomparable in the fulfillment of needs.
    2. 0
      26 February 2016 06: 36
      Quote: izya top
      some kind of panic article

      so it-siFkoFF ... laughing
  8. +4
    26 February 2016 06: 00
    The presented scenario is hypothetical, but feasible.

    Russia appears as a whipping boy, unable to resist. But even English scientists know that this is not so. There will be opposition to any action, and far from what the enemy expects. This factor must also be taken into account in theoretical constructions, Mr. Corresponding Member.
    1. KOH
      +3
      26 February 2016 06: 58
      So they know about Russian improvisation ...)))), they are afraid of it ...))))

      What is improvisation ...
      (French improvisation, Italian. improvvisazione, from Latin improvisus - unexpected, sudden) - a special kind of art found in a number of works (poetry, drama, music, choreography). creativity, with the rum production. It is created directly in the process of its execution.

      They don’t understand why people are running in front of the tank, why the bunkers are closing themselves, they are going to rams ..., but there are a lot more ...
    2. +6
      26 February 2016 07: 01
      this can happen only if management and special services sit idly by and do nothing. the internal enemy is known (the fifth column in the government and on the ground) and it will last one day to neutralize it. so as not to lead to a sin, already now it is necessary to begin purges, remove liberals from the government, remove from the posts in universities and other educational institutions propaganda of the West.
  9. +15
    26 February 2016 06: 05
    The second is the determination of the top military-political leadership, or rather one person - the president to go for its application.
    Sivkov’s roof leaked. Bombs are flying to the cities of Russia, and the president and the leadership are sitting and afraid to use nuclear weapons. And if the country's leadership is destroyed, a dead hand was created for whom.
    The third condition is that nuclear weapons systems maintain combat stability. They can be destroyed, captured, or otherwise neutralized. With ground installations, sabotage groups will do this.
    Well, of course, it only occurred to Sivkov. Our General Staff is not up to date at all. And even there is no protection and the borders are open.
    Strategic aviation is blocked at airfields. Submarines with ballistic missiles are disabled in the bases.
    Well, yes, we are a banana republic, the size of Somalia.
    Well, Sivkov would go to America, in his hands she would have won. And our missiles will not reach there.
    1. 0
      26 February 2016 11: 07
      Yeah, for every submarine a saboteur with a wrench. fellow
  10. +8
    26 February 2016 06: 07
    It seems to be painted normally, but it seems to me that there are several omissions.
    1. The vast territory of Russia is not taken into account, which radically changes the tactics of actions at the stage of sabotage and massive invasion
    2. Not taken into account the reaction of China
    3. The options for a collision with the bloc BEFORE fulfilling paragraphs 1 and 2 have not been taken into account, in this case, everything is sad for NATO.

    In general, the scenario in the article is designed to silently wait for the implementation of paragraphs. 1 and 2, which is extremely unlikely or will require several decades during which the situation in the world can radically change in connection, for example. with climatic disasters. A sharp increase in temperature can cause a crisis in the United States, Western Europe and even more so in Africa. The lack of drinking water and food due to climate change in the long term 20-30 years is not taken into account. Yes, a lot of things are not indicated in the article. Although this does not seem to be a scientific report ... so excusable laughing
  11. +6
    26 February 2016 06: 08
    and fend off in the early stages. - and therefore it is necessary to keep the powder dry, and the ears on the top!
  12. bad
    +4
    26 February 2016 06: 10
    put aside the panic! .. it’s painted as if there were only downs and cripples left in Russia .. normally we’ll pile on everyone who snoops around to us .. angry
    1. +2
      26 February 2016 06: 44
      No one is panicking, but who will pile on? Heap heap, only with whom? You and I, yes, you and I are already four. hi In fact, patriotic education is still far from perfect. Many do not care who to work for, etc. And the powder must be kept dry. hi
  13. -1
    26 February 2016 06: 11
    unconvincing!
  14. -1
    26 February 2016 06: 12
    No need to breed a panic. We will tear everyone!
    1. 0
      26 February 2016 08: 51
      Quote: Siberia M 54
      No need to breed a panic. We will tear everyone!

      ... we will tear - we will be torn ... we will eat - we ... will not eat! ... we will rob - we will be robbed ...
      ... the coffee grounds are over - did Seffoff move to whiskey?
  15. +4
    26 February 2016 06: 16
    Well - "insanity grows stronger", as they say ..., and, in the end - "we'll see" what and how. And the "fifth column" in the form of various kinds of "liberastoy" is high time to "shut off the oxygen"!
    "They themselves" have the following opinion: "A number of NATO military experts have prepared a report in which they warn about the vulnerability of the eastern borders in the event of aggression from Russia. The report lists the shortcomings in the training and armament of key members of the alliance."

    Read more at RBC:
    http://www.rbc.ru/politics/26/02/2016/56cfb8439a7947d9a369a61c#xtor=AL-[internal
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  16. +5
    26 February 2016 06: 22
    Author fantasize. You should not even analyze such nonsense. First of all, preparation for an operation of this scale cannot be hidden.
    It is possible to intercept the air bridge for the transfer of mattress troops to Europe, only whom to intercept? How many troops in the metropolis that need to be deployed and armed with weapons stored in caves in Norway, for example? This weapon is not for the Hegemonic troops, but for the gay men! Are they ready to fight? Even if they get brutalized by propaganda? The soldier must be trained. Even an infantryman. And quite a while. To unite troops at different levels, from squad to division. What is it, It’s hard to do in a month, in two? And Russia, having folded paws, will observe? Oh, nonsense.
    1. 0
      26 February 2016 09: 53
      But is it now, Europe, is not being filled with potential troops, albeit such hordes, incomprehensible and seemingly unorganized, but mind you for a moment, as a rule professing radical Islam. Perhaps, under the pretext of liberating Europe from the "Islamist plague", military formations will be built on the borders of Russia.
  17. +3
    26 February 2016 06: 22
    Painted somehow too gloomy. But one thing is true ... you need to live not in fear, but in readiness for war (in moral terms). And without hatred chants. And with all the seriousness. Well, and most importantly ... curious ... that would be in 41m, if it were not for the 37th. It’s just that in dangerous times it’s hard to come up with an alternative ... I myself personally can’t do it either. Maybe someone has ideas?
  18. +1
    26 February 2016 06: 22
    I agree completely! I do not want to believe, BUT ... everything goes exactly to this. Facts, arguments - everything yells about increased pressure on the Russian Federation. I don’t want to make porridge, because the article is very prudent and concise.
    Hello everyone, peace and goodness!
  19. +5
    26 February 2016 06: 23
    For Ukrainians, Balts, Poles: do not wait for the Russian ground forces. Look forward to turning your countries into a desert with impenetrable radioactive blockages along all communications. Thank you for your close rapprochement with NATO, otherwise the task of deterring this alliance could become unsolvable.
  20. +2
    26 February 2016 06: 25
    thoughts out loud, after the massive use of nuclear weapons, the "occupants" will have completely different problems
  21. +2
    26 February 2016 06: 26
    Quote: sub307
    "The fifth column" in the form of various kinds of "liberals" is high time to "shut off the oxygen"!

    ... sorry not 37 ... stirred cockroaches, cookies work out ...
  22. +3
    26 February 2016 06: 29
    a lot of stretch. main groups of the Strategic Missile Forces and strata. Avivations are far from the borders of Russia. Throwing sabotage groups there in advance is very difficult. since the population is small and secrecy cannot be provided, taking into account the cover in the form of parts of the guard and the military. It is also impossible to neutralize management without massive betrayal of personnel. since management is duplicated many times and there are plans for decentralized decision making. A sudden massive strike is also very difficult due to modern warning systems. that is, this is possible only in the case of mass betrayal of the entire power vertical.
  23. +2
    26 February 2016 06: 31
    It looks like a script from Sergei Anisimov's book "Abrams in Khimki". In the early 2000s, I would have fully believed in the feasibility of such an option. Now no longer, but that does not mean that I am convinced that a war between Russia and NATO is impossible. The "partners" are certainly developing some plans, and ours are probably not sitting idle. I am only afraid that in the event of such a war, the use of nuclear weapons (even if limited) will not do.
  24. +2
    26 February 2016 06: 34
    In Europe and the USA there are no history lessons at all ??? They can’t understand the Russian soul, but they are going to us with the war, aren’t they crazy?
  25. +1
    26 February 2016 06: 34
    Sivkov is a muddy personality. The opinion is that he "does the examination" to order.
  26. +3
    26 February 2016 06: 36
    For our country, the main enemies are the internal ones, those who are responsible for the "efficient economy", hold the financial side of our life by the "Central Bank of the Russian Federation" (this week they were again praised by the IMF for the "effectiveness" of actions), as well as many other bureaucrats in power , talking about fabulous money in their boxes, such as Rusnano and Skolkovo. Targeted sabotage on the kind of Vostochny cosmodrome, the case of Vasilyeva and Serdyukov who stole billions and got off with a slight fright, and other similar projects that are not so well-known and well-known.
  27. +2
    26 February 2016 06: 36
    For me, this is still the same nonsense, but if such a scenario can be advanced, even theoretically, then you need to calculate the answer to it in advance ...
  28. +3
    26 February 2016 06: 39
    There are two options - the author of the puncher, or the author knows much more than necessary, but does not have the right to share the available information. ..
  29. +5
    26 February 2016 06: 51
    Fantastic script, but with a very high level of real content. The so-called "perestroika" was carried out, in fact, according to a very similar scenario, when the government of the state was completely lost, society was split and disorganized, and the combat capability of the Armed Forces was actually lost. Therefore, the most important task is not to confront the "liberals" that have gained strength, but to completely destroy the "fifth column". And this must be done, despite the frenzied howl of the West - time is playing against us, and it is extremely problematic to resist the united anti-Russian forces for a long period of time. We already have a corrupted and de-ideologized generation of the 90s, a real-life "office plankton", openly "untouchable" corrupt officials of the highest rank. It is high time to learn how to use force against internal enemies and stop looking to the West.
    1. +1
      26 February 2016 13: 39
      Quote: Geophizik
      Therefore, the most important task is not to confront the "liberals" that have gained strength, but to completely destroy the "fifth column".



      Um ... It's hard, really hard to do it ...
      I somehow understand the "sophistication" of such representatives of the "younger" generation as DAM, Chubais, Kudrin and similar individuals ...
      But now, if we are talking about the possibility of a third world war with the use of strategic nuclear forces, how can rearmament-equipping-training of our strategic nuclear forces be achieved if people of even our generation change their views sharply and diametrically?
      As an example, I can cite Dvorkina V.Z., whom during the time of joint service he knew as a decent person, a leading scientist, and then the head of the 4th Central Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense, who put a lot of effort in his time in the development of the Strategic Missile Forces in particular ...
      Now he is a Chief Researcher at the Institute of World Economy and International Relations of the Russian Academy of Sciences (since 2001), Chairman of the Organizing Committee of the International Luxembourg Forum (since 2007), as well as an expert at the Carnegie Moscow Center, in which he heads the Nonproliferation Problems program (since 2015 ). Since 1993 he has been a full member of the State Russian Academy of Rocket and Artillery Sciences (RARAN) [3], as well as a number of public academies ....
      He was a consultant to Gorbachev, Yeltsin, Putin ...
      And a metamorphosis similar to academician A. Sakharov happened to him ...
      Anyone interested can read about him at: https: //ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD ,
      _%D0%92%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80_%D0%97%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2
      %D1%8C%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87

      Well, there are links there on his publication ...
      And after all, with its capabilities, there are a lot of very sticks in the wheels to be inserted, or to chop such firewood that only chips will remain of them ...

      BZHRK was slaughtered in his presence, did not defend ... Its revival in the form of "Barguzin" is slowing down ... It is not known what awaits "Rubezh" and "Sarmat" - the terms of development-production-commissioning are postponed and postponed ...

      Everything that the Americans and NATO are afraid of along with them is inhibited ...

      And how many of these are in and around the authorities as consultants and "gray cardinals" ...
      1. +2
        26 February 2016 13: 50
        Quote: weksha50
        And how many of these are in and around the authorities as consultants and "gray cardinals" ...

        Georgy, old man, where are the shoulder straps of the "marshal" of affairs, only now I realized that the old avatar should have been left drinks hi
        1. +2
          26 February 2016 14: 44
          hi
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Georgy, old man, where are the shoulder straps of the "marshal" of affairs, only now I realized that the old avatar should have been left



          I lost my old avatar, I didn’t find it in the archive ... And the epaulettes were taken away ... left without pants ...

          PS I reinstalled Windu, accordingly the ID changed ... I had to register on a new one ... but under the old nickname I registered ...
          But - I see no problems ... Even as if rejuvenated (virtually) ...
          1. +1
            26 February 2016 14: 58
            Quote: weksha50
            But - I see no problems.

            Guys need to chip in the rating probably laughing
            1. +1
              26 February 2016 16: 27
              wink
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              Guys need to chip in the rating probably


              Looks like a little guy in a brand new ...

              PS Yes, and age is not the one to chase the rating ... But, thank God, I’m not GDP or DAM, and not even Obama and Poroshenko-Yaytsenyukh - these ratings have been a long time ago for me ...
  30. +1
    26 February 2016 06: 51
    a lot of stretch. main groups of the Strategic Missile Forces and strata. Avivations are far from the borders of Russia. Throwing sabotage groups there in advance is very difficult. since the population is small and secrecy cannot be provided, taking into account the cover in the form of parts of the guard and the military. It is also impossible to neutralize management without massive betrayal of personnel. since management is duplicated many times and there are plans for decentralized decision making. A sudden massive strike is also very difficult due to modern warning systems. that is, this is possible only in the case of mass betrayal of the entire power vertical.
  31. -4
    26 February 2016 07: 10
    "Naturally, the peoples of Russia will launch a partisan struggle." Minus the author. It is just unnatural that there will be partisans. The mood in society is completely different - the American way of life
    1. 0
      26 February 2016 11: 11
      Quote: kuz363
      "Naturally, the peoples of Russia will launch a partisan struggle." Minus the author. It is just unnatural that there will be partisans. The mood in society is completely different - the American way of life

      I didn’t set a minus for you, but I was close to it ... I often and talk a lot with young people ... conclusion - young people will be partisan if they suddenly have to ... well, we will help ... soldier
  32. +1
    26 February 2016 07: 13
    In all these assumptions one, but very relevant and correct idea can be traced about the crime of privatizing military factories and assuming foreigners' military secrets. The author writes that Putin’s orders are openly sabotaged, but then he has the last trump card - the army, he’s commander in chief ?! Why are vital issues in Russia, according to the author, sabotaged, and the president is silent, and does nothing to stop this mess?! The situation in the Russian industry is actually not very healthy and requires speedy and tough decisions, is it capable of them Putin, is this a big and urgent question ?!
    1. +1
      26 February 2016 13: 55
      Quote: Corvetkapitan
      is Putin capable of them, is this a big and urgent question ?!

      This is no longer a question, but rather an answer)))
  33. +2
    26 February 2016 07: 26
    The West has the usual psychology in this matter: impose maximum horror and then annex it. And since their moral and spiritual qualities have vanished, the only right move against such a policy will be brutal suppression of their actions. In various forms: economic, military and others. You can forget about persuasion and evasion.
  34. 0
    26 February 2016 07: 28
    Sivkov finally rolls off the coils.
  35. +1
    26 February 2016 07: 29
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    The reality is that there are enough idiots there and most importantly they are all in power.



    And not just idiots, but bloodthirsty idiots and idiots.
  36. +3
    26 February 2016 07: 33
    I read about this option in one novel in the genre of post-apocalyptic.
    In general, the option is likely ... was the year in 2000.
    When in addition to the strategic nuclear forces we didn’t have any.
    And now we are ready for reflection.
    There is a connection that is not so easy to drown out,
    There is a new technique that is being tested in exercises.
    So everything will be more complicated than the author described.
  37. 0
    26 February 2016 08: 06
    The presented scenario is hypothetical

    This is the only thing to agree with.
    Article-BOLD minus!
  38. +3
    26 February 2016 08: 09
    The article is necessary and accurately reflects the probability of an invasion! Already now, attempts of the 5th are visible
    columns in Russia, and not only that! Ordinary citizens pissed at by troubles in
    the economy, often show dissatisfaction at the everyday level, which will imperceptibly lead to an imbalance in society. The fact of the presence of millions of potential soldiers in Ukraine and their possible penetration into Russia is real! The scenario is very simple: in several districts of one city (or many) hostages are being seized with certain demands. The security officials, even after blocking these "hot spots", will simply get bogged down with resolving this issue, since there may be many hostages and the process of such seizures of high-rise buildings may be increasing?
  39. +1
    26 February 2016 08: 12
    totally agree with the author! I believe that everyone can contribute to the strengthening of Russia, it is enough to buy only Russian.
  40. +2
    26 February 2016 08: 15
    lads do not sleep to arms
  41. 0
    26 February 2016 08: 23
    This is not the first time Sivkov has written such articles where we, Russians, should be afraid to kneel before the powers that be. These authors have become a tradition to intimidate us. Especially when there is a banal reprint of articles from another author. something new.
  42. +1
    26 February 2016 08: 29
    And the Author Konstantin Sivkov, corresponding member of RARAN, doctor of military sciences about the army and wars. HAS ONLY THEORETICAL KNOWLEDGE?
  43. +4
    26 February 2016 08: 31
    Will you fight a lot, even with the coolest super duper tank, if your own generals surrender you? What hasn't happened already? It was. I do not like alarmists, but the "urya-patriots" are even worse.
  44. 0
    26 February 2016 08: 34
    article complete nonsense, the author did not take into account the Martians on whose side they will be fool
  45. +1
    26 February 2016 08: 40
    Well, well? To criticize much! And when it burns, whether in the South, in Siberia, etc.?
  46. 0
    26 February 2016 08: 49
    The article is not a case. The author broke into the open gate. The topic is well-known, discussed, but in this case the article smacks of the scent of defeatism and disbelief in one’s country, one’s people. Isn't it too early to write scripts about guerrilla warfare. And yet - belonging to the RAS, as well as such regalia as a doctor of military sciences, an expert, is not yet evidence of the ultimate truth. Not me said: an expert is one who knows more and more about less and less.
  47. 0
    26 February 2016 08: 53
    Quote: Alexander Romanov

    The reality is that there are enough idiots there and most importantly they are all in power.

    Yes, in the West such a high standard of living with such idiots in power. Who is in power then?
  48. +1
    26 February 2016 09: 12
    I do not see in this article intimidation of Russians. Yes, in the conditions prevailing today, such a scenario is impossible. But the liberals are working, the conditions can change not noticeably for the Russian man in the street. There will be no patriots in Russia, there will be only liberals, looking into the mouth of the West, like “what do you want ?. Look how Ukraine was re-educated, and they started from school, instilling in the minds of children that Bender was the dick of Ukraine. We got the right-wing groups that turned the whole country. And for whom does our Ministry of Education work, what kind of person of the future does it want to get by introducing the USE? And foreign teachers, whom will they educate and form? This article gives food for thought and analysis.
  49. +1
    26 February 2016 09: 15
    "The presented scenario is hypothetical, but feasible"...

    Um ... If you believe in the possibility of implementing these plans, then right at least today - go and give up, hang out a white flag ...

    The common sense in the article is that Sivkov talks about the unpreparedness of NATO soldiers for such deprivations during the hostilities that a Russian soldier is prepared for ...

    Well, in order to deprive the military-political leadership of strategic nuclear forces management, much more effort will be required than the author describes ...

    All these options have long been known, and should have been lost by our top at KShU more than a dozen times ...

    So, although there is some kind of rational grain in the article, however, it is purely defeatist in nature.
    It turns out that the article is written in the spirit of the fifth column, and its meaning is as follows: "Rus, give up!"

    PS Actually, more than once there has already been a conversation about the introduction of censorship ... I believe that there should not be such articles in the open media ... Let these issues and their solutions be resolved there, in the military-political circles, and in the localities, troops, there should be a reflection of the actions of the DRG ... However, these issues were topical even in Soviet times, and at the very least, they were decided ... And who, if not the doctor of military sciences, did not know this ???
    1. 0
      26 February 2016 10: 06
      This war will end quickly enough - all NATO bases are in full view.
  50. +2
    26 February 2016 09: 35
    On the one hand, the article seems to be a total alarmist. They will beat us, and we will sit on our legs? And here we come to the other side: we all discussed here at the VO what the prospects are if the Turks invade Syria and strike ours. The range of answers was from "we will all be broken" to "we will all be broken." But they forgot the main thing - will an order be given to strike and defeat the Turks? And this article should be viewed precisely in this context - will an order be given to repel the attack or will we hand over everything again? So far, the actions of the 5th column (not the bawlers and shuffle of the Navalno-Kasyanovs and other Yashin-Gudkovs) represented by the liberals in the government and a very specific person responsible for the appointment of the government's work indicate the second option. Yes, I'm talking about the sun-faced and omnipotent Putin. Yes, it is he, as the head of state, who bears the most direct and immediate responsibility for the anti-Russian and anti-Russian activities of the government, and he has repeatedly said that he is satisfied with the “work” of the government. Now the Urya-patriots will come running in, they will leave and start scribbling about Crimea and Syria. Yes, well done for returning Crimea. But was that his decision? It really looks like an operation in Pristina, when the drunk EBN was able to distract him from Berezovsky for a minute. Because all achievements in foreign policy are completely overlapped by domestic ones, where education has been destroyed, medicine and social security are being achieved, where instead of strategic factories, residential buildings begin, where corruption flourishes, especially in law enforcement agencies, where criminal national groups operate openly and much more. And do you believe that our elite (although what the hell is it?) Will give the order to repel the attack? At the risk of losing everything looted and stored far from Russia? Well, well ... It was Stalin's sons who fought at the front, and at the forefront. And remember where are the children of the current rulers? That's the same ...
  51. 0
    26 February 2016 09: 47
    Quote: Mahmut
    And the peculiarity is that a misfire in any of these links leads to the complete failure of the entire operation, with the result opposite to the expectations of the aggressor.

    So he seems to write that the likelihood of such a scenario is extremely low... But it exists. This is him describing the worst possible option for us.
  52. +2
    26 February 2016 09: 51
    I have always been bothered by conversations about the readiness of a Russian soldier for terrible hardships and the unpreparedness of a Western soldier for such. Well, first of all, “you want to live and you won’t get so upset” has not been canceled! Secondly, why is it customary for us to create these very hardships for our soldiers? Doesn’t anyone think that soldiers who are ready for hardship, if more or less normal conditions are created for them, can even move mountains? Or is the issue of creating normal conditions for soldiers of the Russian army not even being considered? Once again, am I planning to compensate for the leadership’s miscalculations with the dedication of a soldier? Maybe, given the limited resources of the state, it is worth finally reconsidering the practice? For example, take measures to preventive non-military weakening of the capabilities of potential adversaries!
    PS. Although I have a suspicion that I’m not the only smart one who came to this conclusion bully joke...
  53. +1
    26 February 2016 10: 12
    Alas, no matter how much we all want to evaluate the article negatively, it is, first of all, realistic. The situation in history is repeating itself. If you look from a military point of view, then Napoleon took such preparation measures, to say nothing of later military conflicts with our country. But the main problem is capitalism in our country, a retreat from trying to find our own economic path, fear of the unknown of experiment (and not necessarily socialist in the old sense). The situation is so powerfully reminiscent of the situation of the country before and at the beginning of World War I that it becomes heavy on the soul from such an awareness of history repeating itself on a new qualitative level...
  54. 0
    26 February 2016 10: 37
    Bullshit on a May night!
  55. +1
    26 February 2016 10: 43
    The earth will burn under the feet of those who come to us in war
    Count on the mercy of Europeans and Americans?
    The Indians will tell you...
  56. +1
    26 February 2016 11: 16
    Which have not be avoided! Welcome!
    We have somewhere to bury NATO ghouls. All you have to do is destroy all the Anglo-Saxons and their henchmen, so that the 3rd World War will surely become the last and no one will interfere with building something like the USSR 3.0 on the entire planet.
  57. +1
    26 February 2016 11: 52
    How can you mentally prepare an American for a war with the Russians. If they write reports of dismissal immediately after our plane has flown over. These fat, barely running amoebas can only bomb a third world country without air defense in the hospital and fly away. Or they will die on their own with a large-caliber gun. Truly a warrior can only be motivated by aggression against his state, his homeland, his home, his loved ones. There is nothing higher than this, and no films, media... can do this for real. The Balts are of course already pumped up, but imagine that you are not Russian and are sitting in a trench with your Balt buddies. Or are you an American. And there are Russians behind the line, I wouldn’t even take the safety off if I were them. The fact is that delivering targeted strikes is not our method. After us there is only plowed molten earth.
    BUT, at this stage we are not ready to wage war. There are many problems. Therefore, patching and modernization are underway. Therefore, there was no response to the downed fighter. The only reason is that we are not ready. Donbass. Syria. Sanctions. Economic
    a crisis.
    If Turkey had also been included there, we wouldn’t even have taken them out purely with money, but if NATO had also arrived...

    This was not a sacrifice by one pilot. It was a wise rescue of hundreds and thousands of soldiers who could have died if we had gotten involved in an exchange with them. Here you come across interesting armchair comments such as nuclear strikes on Turkey. Such people should immediately be put in the minus for such childish comments. Themselves soldiers do not want and will not fight with the Russians. After all, we do not attack their homes and countries. We are within our borders. What normal person, after watching the BBC, will go into a trench knowing that on the other side is the second most powerful army in the world. With all the sunshine, dots-U...then you can add a thuja bunch of deadly weapons from which neither trenches nor bunkers can save you. When everyone sits at home and eats up the news that the Russians are this or that... everyone is so cheerful. But when you are sitting in a trench, and the “hail” begins to work on the other side. You no longer care about your homeland. Only prayers for a truce.
    1. +2
      26 February 2016 12: 34
      What normal person, after watching the BBC, will go into a trench knowing that on the other side is the second most powerful army in the world. With all the sunshine, dots-U... then you can add a thuja bunch of deadly weapons from which neither trenches nor bunkers can save you.

      And who told you, dear one, that the BBC shows them a true picture, and not men in earflaps with a star and bast shoes, with bears and balalaikas? Have you already forgotten Hollywood with their Rambo? How long will it take until they understand that they have the second strongest army in front of them?
      In general, you can never be 100% ready for war! Partially - it is possible, with a high degree of readiness - it is possible!
      Are we not ready? Not ready! Are they not ready? Not ready either! Otherwise, we would have been attacked long ago... believe me!
  58. +2
    26 February 2016 11: 54
    The author exaggerates. Although he is truly an honored man, a patriot, he has many interesting thoughts in various publications. But sometimes (at least several years ago, maybe now he has corrected his data) Sivkov has data on the organizational structures of the armies of NATO countries, the number of troops, etc. outdated, almost at the level of the textbook “Political and Military Geography of Foreign Countries” of the late 70s. When he writes about the number of weapons we have, he takes into account the reductions of the 90s and subsequent years. And if we are talking about NATO armies, then the data on the quantitative composition is often as of the late 80s - early 0s. Somehow it does not take into account that the Americans and NATO also actually carried out significant reductions in both the number of personnel and the number of weapons. A few years ago, he wrote about the enormous offensive power of the “half-million-strong Bundeswehr”, that there are no permanently organized brigades in the US Army, etc.
    Although, on the other hand, I think we read Sivkov’s articles with a popular science and mobilization slant, for the general public. They are intended mainly for amateurs, like me and many visitors to this site, who must understand the seriousness of the situation. Therefore, the benefits from them are undoubted. Perhaps Sivkov’s articles in more specialized, military-scientific publications, not for the general public, are of a slightly different nature.
  59. +1
    26 February 2016 12: 45
    There is a video version of this article. Personally, one thing is clear to me: world capital, the Western world, the Anglo-Saxons, the dark forces - call it what you want - have set a course for the destruction of Russia. It would be stupid to assume that they will stop halfway and begin to negotiate. Once they have decided, it means they are confident in their victory. FOR them the point of no return has already been passed.

  60. -1
    26 February 2016 13: 17
    The author is an alarmist and a provocateur. It is reasonable to consider various threat options, but this is best done by specially trained individuals with access to intelligence-level information. And this insinuation is from the category: “farted in a puddle.” Sorry for my French.
  61. 0
    26 February 2016 20: 25
    Blood, sweat, sand, ..., and girlish tears..

    My downside to the article is that it’s nothing.. it’s not analytics. No.
  62. 0
    26 February 2016 22: 20
    Sivkov seems to be a decent-looking guy and speaks fluently.... but he’s been saying these scarecrows for about 8 years now. I noticed it a long time ago, when I listen to it I’m immediately afraid, then I listen to it again and I’m even more afraid. But with forecasts he is somehow weak, he almost never guesses correctly.

    And the fact that there are enough fools in power in the West is obvious even without glasses. They can even begin to fight, they will convince themselves and their wards that now is the time and they will start with someone else’s hands.
  63. 0
    27 February 2016 17: 58
    “Do not boast about your army while walking” - in my opinion this is ALWAYS relevant. Judging by the comments to the article: NATO has already lost the war to Russia 264 times and is crying bitterly, pressed to the coast of Antarctica. The NATO countries and the American Armed Forces are led by nonentities and losers, the officers are good for nothing, the soldiers scatter before the first shot is fired. So what? Whatever it looks like, it’s not visible in practice. It is well known that underestimating the enemy is the path to defeat. It is well known that without criticism and experience you cannot get rid of mistakes. Without plans to counter a complex surprise attack using economic, political, military, information, and technical means, it will not be possible to repel such an attack. Unpreparedness for emergency developments is paralyzing! Both officers and privates. 41 years was a lesson for everyone! War - like an easy victory walk? Will we defeat the enemy on the other side? This misconception has occurred throughout history. Would you call me an alarmist? Oh well.