Following the example of Genghis Khan

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If Kazakhstan comes under attack, Russia's intervention will be full scale.

Under the blows of the Russian VKS, the Syrian army and the militia, the Kurdish people's self-defense detachments, Iranian, Lebanese, Iraqi and other volunteers, jihadists retreat, suffering heavy losses. It is possible that in the very near future we will see the end of the active phase of the civil conflict in Syria and the beginning of a political settlement. But will it end the fight against jihadism? Hardly. Comma - yes, but not a point. Where and when to wait for the next strike?

With a high degree of probability, it can be expected that international terrorism hiding behind Islam will take a look at post-Soviet Central Asia. Here, the imposition of an external factor on a number of internal sources of tension - ethnic contradictions, social inequality, the struggle for water resources, regional rivalry, the problem of transfer of power - can give the result sought by jihadists in the form of a full-scale crisis that can radically change the existing political and social structure of states and reformat everything the space between the Caspian Sea and the Tien Shan.

The densely populated Fergana Valley, located at the junction of four borders, has the greatest conflict potential. In addition, western Kazakhstan, southern Uzbekistan and western Tajikistan may be destabilized. There is a high probability of infiltration into these areas of irregular armed formations (IVF): “Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan” and Uzbek “Akramiya”, “Nurchilar”, “Musulmon Birodarlar”, “Zhamaat Mujahideen of Central Asia”, Kazakh “Jund al-Khalifa”, Kazakh the Uighur Islamic Party of Eastern Turkestan, the Tajik Jamaat Ansarulloh, the Pan-Islamic Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami, Tablighi Jamaat and others. Their goal is the overthrow of the constitutional order, the rejection of the secular trend of development, the creation of a new caliphate on the territory of the wilayats.

The united forces of jihadists are opposed by an international coalition, the core of which consists of Russia and the Central Asian states - members of the Collective Security Treaty Organization: Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. On the periphery of this coalition are China and Uzbekistan, which, along with the named “Quartet” of the CSTO, are members of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, but they have a special position and pursue their own interests in the matter of ensuring stability in the region. The same can be said about Iran, which is seeking membership in the SCO.

Obviously, Russia is called upon to play a major role in preventing a possible military-political crisis and minimizing its consequences. The events implemented for this purpose are grouped into two main groups: military-political and military-technical.

Antiterrorist "Center"


It so happened that the revision of the strategy of the US military presence in Afghanistan coincided with the reform of the Russian Armed Forces 2008-2010. In its course, the strategic structure of the RF Armed Forces was reformatted to form four combined (interspecific) strategic commands, each oriented to its own potential theater of operations. Aimed at the Central Asian strategic direction, OSK Center has combined two combined arms armies (OA): on the Zavolzhsky operational direction, the 2nd Guards OA (three motorized rifle brigades staffed in light, medium and heavy units) ), in the South Urals operational sector - 41st OA (four motorized rifle brigades - “light”, “medium” and two “heavy”). Each association has a standard army set of formations and units of combat support and service. Until recently, the reserve of OSK Center was made up of two “heavy” brigades - tank and motorized rifle. In the near future, the mentioned tank brigade will be deployed into the division, and in the Volga region (2nd Guards OA) the task is set to form another motorized rifle brigade. In addition, the USC "Center" subordinated to the 201st military base (wb) of brigade personnel stationed in Tajikistan. During the strategic command-and-staff exercises Center-2011 and Center-2015, the capabilities of interspecific groupings in the Central Asian strategic direction in military operations of various sizes were tested.

Taking into account potential threats, first of all in the face of IVF, special operations forces gain special significance for the Central Asian theater of operations. For example, in Afghanistan, army special forces solved up to 75 – 80 percent of tasks, in Chechnya - 70 – 90 percent. In the area of ​​responsibility of the USC Center, in each of the two operational areas, a separate special purpose brigade (obrspn) is deployed. In the strategic reserve - the Special Purpose Center of the Ministry of Defense, acting under the auspices of the command of special operations forces.

The confrontation of the ICF requires rapid deployment of troops and forces in the area of ​​destination. In this connection, the airborne forces that make up the reserve of the commander-in-chief are of particular importance. For actions in the area of ​​responsibility of the USC "Center" from the Airborne Forces 98-i Guards are allocated. the airborne division (airborne division) and the 31-I separate guards. air assault brigade (oddshbr). The latter is also planned to be deployed to the division in the foreseeable future.

The CSTO has created regional and interregional groups of troops.

The first includes constant-readiness military contingents assigned by the member states to the Collective Rapid Deployment Forces (ARIS) of the Central Asian region. The overall composition of the CARFIA CRS is about 5000 people (ten battalions), more than 300 tanks and armored combat vehicles, 10 aircraft (Su-25), 14 helicopters (Mi-8МТВ-1). The deployment time is up to five days. NATO equivalent - Very High Readiness Joint Task Force (VJTF) / NATO Response Force (NRF). Every year, starting with 2004, joint complex exercises of the Frontier series are held with the Central European Regional Strategic Control System of Central Asia.

The interregional grouping includes contingents assigned by the CSTO member states to the Collective Rapid Reaction Forces (CRRF). The total composition of the CORF is about 20 thousand people, including 17 thousand - constant-readiness contingents, 3000 - formation of special forces (FSSN) from the internal affairs, state security and civil defense. All formations are aeromobile. The deployment time is as agreed by the parties (the Russian contingent can be deployed in up to three days). NATO equivalent - Allied Rapid Reaction Corps (ARRC) / High Readiness Forces (HRF). Operational, combat and special training activities with the RRF include joint exercises of the “Interaction” series with military contingents (held annually, starting with 2009), tactical and special exercises of the “Cobalt” series with special purpose units of the MVD KSOR (held every two or three years, starting with 2010, the operational and tactical exercises of the “Thunder” series with divisions of anti-drug agencies and internal affairs bodies (held every two to three years, starting with 2012).

At the end of 2012, the creation of the Collective Forces (CC) of the CSTO was announced. Priority measures include the completion of the construction of the Joint Air Defense System, the formation of Collective aviation forces (assault, bomber, fighter and military transport aviation) and the Collective Special Operations Forces.

“Terminators” against jihadists


Over the past five years, along the line of the state defense order, armored personnel carriers BTR-82А, BTR-80А, 120-mm self-propelled 2С9-1М Nona-SM (on the tandem of the IHR systems) delivered armored personnel carriers of the Center. on the wheel), UAV “Granat-2”, “Tipchak-K”, multipurpose vehicles of the Mustang and Motovoz families (manufactured by KamAZ and UralAZ, respectively), all-wheel drive special purpose vehicles “Tigr Spn”, field unified range of tools automation (field Internet) "Acacia", Digital New generation communication systems, Volynets topographic complex, new Kite non-contact explosive devices mine detectors (to replace IMP-23 and IMP-S metal detectors), Dublon sappers protective suits, Pecheneg-N machine guns ( to replace the PCM). Artillery systems were upgraded by introducing automated guidance and fire control systems (ASUNO), which increased the accuracy of artillery fire by 2 – 2 and reduced the preparation time for firing in 7,62 – 20.

The airborne units and units are reequipping on BMD-4М, BTR-MDM (tracked) and BTR-82А (wheeled), Tigr-M armored vehicles (off-road type HMMWV) and Typhoon (with enhanced MRAP type protection), X-MUMV, type XMWV). -mm self-propelled anti-tank guns 125С2 "Sprut-SD", ATVs, promising self-propelled ATGMs and artillery 25 and 120 caliber of millimeter, automated control system "Andromeda-D", BLA "Navodchik-152", and un-rocket-propelled artillery, automatic systems "Andromeda D" , multi-purpose KAMAZ-2 (to replace GAZ-2). New parachutes D-43501, D-66, "Arbalet", a free-form system of landing of the "Shelf" equipment were received and delivered to the troops by the Airborne Forces.

Following the example of Genghis Khan


Part of the special purpose received unmanned aerial reconnaissance and target designation systems “Pear”, “Gunner-2”, “Zastava”. The latest means of communication, navigation and search have been tested and are being prepared for the use of special forces. By January 2016, the level of equipment of parts of the Special Forces of the RF Armed Forces of the Russian Federation with the latest equipment and armaments has been increased to 30 percent.

The 14 Army of Air Force and Air Defense (part of the 2015 command - 2 command of the Air Force and Air Defense) received the modernized Su-24M front-line bombers with the installation of the SVP-24 sighting system "Gefest" , ensuring the use of controlled means of destruction of ground targets without entering into the zone of the enemy air defense. The radius of action of the bombers was significantly increased by equipping them with new standardized outboard refueling units (ORP), which allow aircraft to refuel each other in the air without involving IL-78 tankers. The units received the Su-25CM attack aircraft, which had undergone comprehensive modernization, designed to combat small-sized ground and low-speed air targets. New avionics and fire control system, onboard equipment of the satellite navigation system GLONASS allow pilots to launch missiles and bombing with high accuracy - the radial deviation from the center of the target does not exceed five meters. Army aviation bases were replenished with new helicopters, the assault landing Mi-8AMTSH-V Terminator, the multipurpose Mi-8MTV-3 and Mi-8MTV-5.

The Russian 999 airbase deployed in the Kyrgyz Republic (Kant airfield) is subordinate to the commander of the 14 th army of the Air Force and Air Defense and is an aviation component of the CARISCR CAR. In the event of an aggravation of the military-political situation in the Central African Republic, the same role as the Syrian Hmeymim is currently called upon to play. The airbase has modernized Su-25CM attack aircraft and multipurpose Mi-8MTV-1 helicopters. Last year, its unit formed the UAV unit Orlan and Outpost, which are designed to increase the effectiveness of the use of army and attack aircraft in combat and joint exercises. In addition, the combat capabilities of the Russian 201-i WB in Tajikistan were strengthened due to the air group based on the Aini airfield (in 30 kilometers from Dushanbe), which is armed with the Mi-8 and Mi-24.

The capabilities of military transport aviation (BTA) are enhanced by the supply of heavy military transport aircraft IL-76MD-90. If today the BTA is capable of transferring one airborne regiment (without a battalion) to the 40, then by the 2018 – 2020 years it will be able to put an airborne division on the wing.

Caspian flotilla, formally included in the USK "South", but if necessary involved in providing the coastal flank of the 2nd Guards. OA OSK Center, over the past five years received a new missile ship of project 11661K and three missile launchers of project 21631 (all four are carriers of the Caliber-NK, whose capabilities in the fight at the IVF at a great distance were brilliantly demonstrated at the end of last year), two small artillery ships of project 21630, anti-sabotage boat of project 21980, two landing craft of project 11770.



Through the CSTO, Russia supplied arms and military equipment to three states in the region — Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan.

The volume of Russia's military-technical cooperation with Kazakhstan in 2004 – 2007 amounted to 141 million dollars, in 2008 – 2011-m - 382 million, declared on 2012 – 2015-th - 258 million dollars. The items supplied from the current production were Su-30MKI multifunctional fighters, Mi-17В-5 and Mi-8АМТ multi-purpose helicopters, С-300PS anti-aircraft missile systems, Terminator, TOS-1 "Buratino" tank support combat vehicles. BTR-82A. Repair and modernization of airplanes and helicopters. Technical assistance was provided for the construction of a series of small rocket-artillery ships of the 20970 project at the national shipyard, a raid minesweeper of the 10750 project was being built in Russia (an option for one more hull was provided in the contract), an application was submitted for the design and construction of three 21632 project infrastructures.

The declared volume of Russian military aid to Kyrgyzstan in 2013 – 2025 will amount to 1,1 billion dollars and involves the supply of helicopters, armored personnel carriers and armored vehicles, artillery systems, infantry weapons, communications and intelligence, a large range of property for logistics, as well as equipment to protect the border.

Russian military aid to Tajikistan in 2005 – 2013 is estimated at 411 million dollars. The declared volume on 2013 – 2025 is 150 – 200 million dollars and involves the supply of aviation equipment, communications equipment, artillery systems, air defense systems, small arms, and the creation of border infrastructure. In addition, over the course of 201, our military instructors at the 2015 training base prepared for the army of Tajikistan more than a thousand specialists - gunners-operators, driver T-72 and BMP-2, commanders and gunners of the Grad MLRS, gunners- operators, mechanics-drivers of self-propelled howitzers 2C3 "Acacia", etc.

Every year, applicants from the CSTO member countries are admitted to the military and civil universities of Russia before 1500.

Scenarios for the desert theater


What are the likely scenarios for the development of the military-political situation and the options for the use of troops and forces appropriate to them?

The first (most likely) involves the conduct of special operations to block and neutralize the IVF numbering from 30 – 60 to 3500 people. At the same time, the military contingents of the CRRF of the CAR and the CRRF conduct military operations with the IVF, and the Federal Service of Federal Service will restore law and order in the conflict areas, eliminate the consequences of terrorist attacks.



The second option (the least likely) provides for the actions of the Allied forces in the CSTO in a local or regional war, in particular a reflection of the offensive of the regular forces of one of the neighboring states. They can be Uzbekistan, claiming the role of a regional leader, having certain contradictions with all the Russian states of the region and politically unstable due to the problem of a legitimate transfer of power (30 January turned 78 to President Islam Karimov). If events develop according to this scenario, one cannot exclude a sharp escalation of the conflict to the level of large-scale combat operations using the entire spectrum of weapons and military equipment. In this case, Russia and its main ally, Kazakhstan, can carry out a full-scale deployment in the Central Asian sector of operational and operational-strategic groups to solve the problems of a local or regional war.

Taking into account the features of the theater (poorly developed network of roads and railways, airfields, mountainous and desert terrain), the successful solution of problems with any of these options involves maneuverable actions of highly mobile forces, historical the precedent set by the army of Genghis Khan in this region eight centuries ago. The only, but very significant difference will be the presence of the air component of the campaign: the outfit of forces and means, tasks and methods for their implementation are easily guessed taking into account the Syrian experience.

What conclusions can be made?

A sharp aggravation of the situation in the states of Central Asia in the foreseeable future seems very likely.

With the end of the active phase of hostilities in Syria and the coercion of the armed opposition to peace, the active core of jihadists among the irreconcilable, including citizens of regional states, cannot be excluded from the CAR.

The imposition of external factors of destabilization on internal can lead to mass riots, which easily develop into armed conflicts with large-scale humanitarian consequences.

In the event of an exacerbation of the situation in Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, one can expect limited intervention by Russia. If Kazakhstan is under attack, it will be full-scale.
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  1. +2
    17 February 2016 21: 34
    Russia has never abandoned its allies in trouble, it was, it is, it will always be so !!!
    1. +22
      17 February 2016 21: 43
      It is very important to work as much as possible with people, with a population that does not delve into all these political and geopolitical squabbles and squabbles. With those who just plow the land or stand at the machine. If ours do not work with them, then theirs will work from behind the hill. Or their emissaries. People need a "king" in their heads. If we do not do this, then our "partners" will. And military aid is when it is no longer our "tsar" in their heads. ...I think so.
      1. +8
        18 February 2016 00: 15
        Quote: Michael67
        With those who just plow the land or stand at the machine. If ours do not work with them, then theirs will work from behind the hill.

        Where, excuse me, will they work in smoking rooms at the factory or maybe in the field at dawn? On an Internet, your brains will be rinsed faster, but if you recognize a vomit in a smoking room, they will immediately snitch for a sweet soul ... And the men in the shops are savvy in politics no worse than you - advanced.


    2. +7
      17 February 2016 21: 45
      The USSR did not abandon, but modern Russia, or rather its new rulers, missed a lot
      1. 0
        17 February 2016 22: 04
        Do you mean fucking boruch? They are already dead if you did not know.
      2. +2
        17 February 2016 22: 47
        Who did not leave the USSR?
        Whom did the "rulers" miss?
        1. +7
          18 February 2016 00: 27
          Quote: Seal
          Who did not leave the USSR?

          Yes, all probably did not throw.
          Well, except that:
          in 1945 - the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR adopted a secret resolution "On the withdrawal from Soviet citizenship of persons of Polish and Jewish nationalities, former Polish citizens and members of their families, resettling from the Soviet Union to Poland".
          And then:
          the return of Polish citizens to their homeland was not just organized, on schedule, with the provision of road and rail transport. At the time of the trip, and I repeat, it was a question of moving from distant regions of the Union, all kinds of material assistance was provided to the needy in advance. Thus, the USSR Ministry of Trade allocated industrial goods worth 8,5 million rubles, mainly shoes - more than 60 thousand pairs, woolen fabrics - 75 thousand square meters. Direct cash assistance from the regional, provincial and republican budgets amounted to 3 million 113 thousand rubles.


          Quote: Seal
          Whom did the "rulers" miss?

          Yugoslavia, Serbia, Iraq, Libya
          1. 0
            18 February 2016 01: 15
            At first glance, it’s completely uninteresting ...


          2. 0
            18 February 2016 14: 07
            Yugoslavia, Serbia, Iraq, Libya
            Yugoslavia - I agree, but this is a thing of the past and the merit of the liberals. Serbia - butter, the same Yugoslavia. But what does Libya and Iraq have to do with it? There were no allied relations with them; rather, they are in the sphere of influence of the USA and the EU. Yes, in Libya they could veto it, there is a sin on Medvedev, but not the fact that it would help. In Iraq, no one gave the go-ahead to start a war, the United States did not ask. The UN Security Council gave the go-ahead only to Afghanistan.
          3. 0
            18 February 2016 21: 56
            Well then, I’ll answer that there have been times when I’d better quit. For example, even L.P. Beria proposed to stop building socialism in the GDR, to agree to its unification with West Germany and to receive Germany neutral and friendly to the USSR.
            Now whom the USSR threw. Offhand.
            Yugoslavia - the fascist clique of Tito.
            Indonesia with its leader Dr. Sukarno.
            Greece - EAM-ELAS.
            Grenada - Maurice Bishop.
            1. -2
              18 February 2016 22: 00
              Quote: Seal
              . For example, even L.P. Beria proposed to stop building socialism in the GDR, to agree to its unification with West Germany and to receive Germany neutral and friendly to the USSR.

              Yes, but the states didn’t go for it, in the sense of neutral, let’s be honest, d
              1. +1
                18 February 2016 22: 27
                let's be honest to the end

                So be honest. The States could not go at all for this, at least, because officially no one even hinted to the States about such an option. I believe that the States learned about this position of Lavrenty Pavlovich only from the materials of his "criminal case".
                1. 0
                  18 February 2016 22: 49
                  The United States assumed the political fragmentation of the country into several independent lands, the USSR - the creation of a single state of "people's democracy"

                  The creation of Germany

                  In 1948, the Western powers authorized the heads of land governments in their zones of occupation to convene a Parliamentary Council to draft a constitution and prepare for the creation of a West German state. Its first meeting was held in Bonn 1 September 1948 year. The constitution was adopted by the Council on 8 on May 1949, and on 23 on May Konrad Adenauer proclaimed the creation of the Federal Republic of Germany. The Constitution itself noted that the Basic Law is an interim document, valid only until the reunification of Germany.

                  The formation of the GDR

                  The reaction of the Soviet Union to the creation of West Germany is not long in coming. A plan to create a pro-Soviet state in eastern Germany was prepared in Moscow in the 1947 year. However, until now the USSR, for tactical reasons, has been waiting for the Western powers to take the first step. On 7 on October 1949, the interim parliament of East Germany - the People's Council - announced the creation of the German Democratic Republic.
          4. 0
            20 February 2016 14: 16
            Quote: opus
            Yes, all probably did not throw.

            Remind, because of what the USSR profukal Yugoslavia in 1948 year?
    3. +13
      17 February 2016 22: 11
      Quote: Thought Giant
      Russia has never abandoned its allies in trouble

      It would be good for the Allies to remember this! And then recently, many have shown amnesia!
      1. +17
        17 February 2016 22: 20
        Quote: Tol100v
        It would be good for the Allies to remember this! And then recently, many have shown amnesia!

        Amnesia in them passes when a roasted cock pecks in the ass, it is worth the rooster to drive off somewhere the allies disappear, partners remain. hi
      2. +1
        18 February 2016 00: 47
        Due to their geopolitical position, the Central Asian states are islands of stability and tranquility, provided that the leadership of these countries are not kamikaze and will not invite terrorist accomplices to their territories to host military bases. Therefore, combat-ready and well-equipped armies are practically not needed for these countries, including Kazakhstan. This fact is well recognized in the political leadership and used, reducing the already meager defense spending, which even in the pre-crisis period amounted to no more than 1% of GDP. On the other hand, such SCO countries as Russia, China, Iran are now actively fighting international terrorism and their accomplices on long lines. They have defense spending of more than 3% of GDP. Therefore, one should not expect the sudden penetration of armed groups in the rear of the SCO. And the author’s statement
        A sharp aggravation of the situation in the states of Central Asia in the foreseeable future seems very likely
        is a deliberate attempt to exacerbate a non-existent problem. The goal is quite obvious and humiliating for the population of these regions. Of course, certain groups of terrorists can penetrate, but without external support, supply and financing, they cannot do anything. The maximum will lick their wounds, but these are problems of the security and law enforcement agencies, but not the armed forces.
        Statement that
        In the event of an aggravation of the situation in Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, a limited Russian intervention can be expected. If Kazakhstan comes under attack, it will be full-blown
        generally looks like a provocation. Because the only aggravation that may be in these countries is internal political, associated with corruption and poverty of the majority of the population.
        1. +1
          18 February 2016 05: 28
          Quote: Vita VKO
          Of course, certain groups of terrorists can penetrate, but without external support, supply and financing, they cannot do anything.

          Are there any doubts that "external support" will be provided for them? Have all existing corruption and criminal clans been handed over to the Islamists for feeding?
          Quote: Vita VKO
          the only aggravation that may be in these countries is internal political, associated with corruption and poverty of the majority of the population.

          That is, the border is so strong, the customs is so developed that the "return" of 50-70 thousand "Mujahideen" within, say, a month is impossible?))
          1. +2
            18 February 2016 08: 02
            Quote: ctepx
            "return" of 50-70 thousand "Mujahideen"

            where are these numbers from? According to expert estimates, this is approximately the size of the entire IG group. And how do you imagine the return? I doubt that this is possible even in coffins.
            Quote: ctepx
            That is, the border is so strong, the customs is so developed that the "return" of 50-70 thousand "Mujahideen" within, say, a month is impossible.

            And you try to enter Kazakhstan and compare the throughput systems of Russia and Kazakhstan. I am sure that the entry of "mujahideen" to Russia will start to worry you much more.
            1. -1
              18 February 2016 09: 00
              Quote: Vita VKO
              And you try to enter Kazakhstan and compare the access system of Russia

              I think that it’s much easier to enter the Republic of Kazakhstan especially if we take into account the corruption of the customs and the border service of the Republic of Uzbekistan
              1. +3
                18 February 2016 09: 56
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                if we take into account the corruption of the customs and border services of the Republic of Uzbekistan

                Corruption in the Russian Federation is no less than in Kazakhstan. Only in the Republic of Kazakhstan they openly talk about it and fight. Is it good or bad is a relative question. But in the Russian Federation more recently they have softened the articles of the criminal code for corruption offenses, some even transferred to the administrative. Why are you asking? When any normal person understands that corruption in public service is tantamount to betrayal and treason.
                1. -1
                  18 February 2016 10: 01
                  Quote: Vita VKO
                  Corruption in the Russian Federation is no less than in Kazakhstan. Only in the Republic of Kazakhstan they openly talk about it and fight.

                  You know, I lived in the Republic of Kazakhstan, I live in the Russian Federation, I worked with one customs and the border service I worked with another, so we’ll leave
                  1. +1
                    18 February 2016 13: 48
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    You know, I lived in the Republic of Kazakhstan, I live in the Russian Federation, I worked with one customs and the border service I worked with another, so we’ll leave
                    In Kazakhstan, created
                    ANTI-CORRUPTION SERVICE soldier
                    NATIONAL BUREAU FOR COUNTERING THE CORRUPTION OF THE MINISTRY OF AFFAIRS OF THE STATE SERVICE OF THE REPUBLIC OF KAZAKHSTAN
                    http://anticorruption.gov.kz/rus
                    Work slowly.
                    Ex-head of the migration police of the Rudny Internal Affairs Directorate sentenced to three years
                    The Rudny city court in the building of the Rudny police department in the presence of already former colleagues issued a verdict in a criminal case against Andrei Dvorsky, former chief of the migration police of the Rudny police department.
                    Recall that on December 29 of 2015, citizen M. applied to the migration police department of the Rudnyi Department of the Interior for the purpose of replacing her ID card in connection with marriage and a change of family name. She was not a citizen of Kazakhstan. After accepting the papers, the fact of untimely replacement of identity documents was revealed, which entailed administrative liability with deportation outside the Republic of Kazakhstan.
                    In order to avoid liability, A. Dvorsky demanded a bribe in the amount of 250 thousand tenge, upon receipt of which on January 6 of the 2016 of the year he was detained red-handed by employees of the anti-corruption service. In respect of the accused, a preventive measure in the form of a pledge was chosen.
                    The verdict of the court A. Dvorsky found guilty of an offense under Art. 366 part 2 of the Criminal Code of the Republic of Kazakhstan (obtaining by a person authorized to perform public functions) with the sentence of imprisonment for a term of 3 years in a penal colony of general regime with life deprivation of the right to occupy positions in government bodies.
                    The convict was taken into custody in the courtroom. The verdict did not enter into force.
                    .
                    1. -1
                      18 February 2016 14: 02
                      Quote: Arbogast
                      In Kazakhstan, created
                      ANTI-CORRUPTION SERVICE soldier
                      I am happy for Kazakhstan, and who will check the ANTI-CORRUPTION SERVICE
            2. 0
              18 February 2016 15: 23
              Quote: Vita VKO
              where are these numbers from? According to expert estimates

              The total number of Daesh and other militants in the Middle East is estimated by some to be more than 200 thousand. In Europe, a little more)). In Russia, I am familiar with an estimate of more than 15 thousand. I find it difficult for Kazakhstan, but a couple of weeks before the polite people, we were preparing to visit up to 70 thousand Wahhabis, who actually had to visit Iraq in order not to lose their fighting arsenal)). I think the figure of 50-70 thousand is quite acceptable for calculating the possible filtration in Kazakhstan.
              Quote: Vita VKO
              And you try to enter Kazakhstan

              Not the fact that they will go from Russia. And, yes, a third of them may end up with Kazakhstani passports)).
    4. +10
      17 February 2016 22: 43
      Quote: Thought Giant
      Russia has never abandoned its allies in trouble, it was so

      unfortunately threw, such a surname Nadzhibulla tells you something ?!
      1. +1
        18 February 2016 01: 13
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        unfortunately threw, such a surname Nadzhibulla tells you something ?!
        - Yes, Gorbachev threw ALL!
        1. +1
          18 February 2016 07: 27
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          Yes Gorbachev threw ALL!

          By the way, this is no longer labeled
          1. 0
            18 February 2016 09: 02
            Over the course of three years, the Najibullah government managed to hold onto power. Shortly after August events in the USSR in 1991, the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the RSFSR Andrei Kozyrev said: "In Afghanistan, everything is ready for settlement - only Soviet support of the" extremists "headed by Najibullah prevents it." On November 15 of the same year, USSR Foreign Minister Boris Pankin formally agreed to stop military supplies to the Kabul regime
    5. +9
      17 February 2016 22: 46
      And who are our real allies today?
      1. +3
        18 February 2016 00: 18
        Hated by you, Armenians.
        1. +2
          18 February 2016 08: 41
          Why did the Armenians suddenly become hateful? o_o
          1. 0
            18 February 2016 22: 18
            He is offended by the fact that I often remind you of cases of betrayal by Armenians and the interests of Russia and simply betrayal of us and our military personnel.
            Well, for example, 99% of Armenians consider the terrorists Zatikyan, Stepanyan and Baghdasaryan, who blew up the Moscow metro in 1977 and were shot by the Supreme Court of the USSR in 1979 as "martyrs and innocent victims of the bloody KGB." And some are even "hero-martyrs."
            I also remind you that none of the Armenians who shot or gave the command to shoot our five paratroopers in July 1992 in Gyumri still has not been punished.
            A certain Abrahamyan, who gave the order to "finish off" by phone, soon became the Deputy Minister of Defense of Armenia.
            Many of the Armenians wanted us to lose our memory.
        2. 0
          18 February 2016 22: 02
          Hated by you, Armenians.

          1. I treat all peoples, including Armenians, without hatred. But I hate lies, betrayal and Nazism. And I hate it three times when lies, betrayal and Nazism get stuffed into our friends under the guise of allies.
          Am I to blame for the fact that everywhere Armenians look - lies, betrayal (in relation to us and the interests of Russia) and Nazism?
          2. And can you prove with anything that they are allies, not parasites?
          3. If a military conflict arises between Russia and Armenia, on whose side will the 3 million Armenians located in Russia take? Just do not need to on the topic that such a conflict can not be, because it can never be. The Georgians told me exactly the same thing and even called me names for talking about a possible military conflict between Russia and Georgia with all sorts of bad words, right up to 08.08.2008. Then they abruptly shut up. Well, a more recent example. Who would have 10 years ago could have suggested that we would seriously fight with the Ukrainians, and the Ukrainian army would be slaughtering our own peaceful cities from volley fire systems.
          So, after that, the conflict between Armenia and Russia does not look absolutely impossible. Anything in the world can happen. So, I repeat the question: "If a military conflict arises between Russia and Armenia, whose side will the 3 million Armenians in Russia take?"
      2. +2
        18 February 2016 00: 25
        Quote: Seal
        And who are our real allies today?

        Rhetorical question. As soon as someone needs Russia to fit in, then immediately we have allies.
        I just haven’t heard anything so far so that our hypothetical allies clearly express their position on the Crimea and on the actions of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria.
        Well, if daish materializes in Central Asia as well, then the stump is clear who should understand Russia if not Russia.
    6. +2
      17 February 2016 23: 14
      But the allies threw us and continue to throw us. Maybe well them, these allies? Mine the border of kilometers on 5 and shoot landmarks of kilometers on 200. And a ten-meter fence.
    7. +15
      18 February 2016 00: 03
      Russia has never abandoned its allies in trouble, it was, it is, it will always be so !!!

      Wow how pathetic. Transfer? Najib Ula in Afghanistan (they refused to supply fuel and tanks at the passes of steel). Yugoslavia - participation in the embargo (without modern air defense Belgrade was bombed into the ground). Cuba - refused to cooperate with the dictator Castro. Libya (our iPhone returned the ship with spare parts to air defense, and abstained in the vote on closing the skies - everyone knows about the fate of Gaddaffi and the fate of Libya).
      1. +2
        18 February 2016 00: 33
        Quote: Blondy
        Wow how pathetic. Transfer?

        Yes, by the way, everyone has already forgotten how the pro-Russian Adjara refused to submit to Saakashvili's authority in the field of the "velvet revolution", but Russia put pressure on and got 08.08.08.
    8. +1
      18 February 2016 09: 44
      Quote: Thought Giant
      Russia has never abandoned its allies in trouble, it was, it is, it will always be so !!!


      Thank you, and we think there will be many volunteers who will go to defend Russia in the event of a large-scale attack of the enemy as in 41m, and officially we were allies, have been, and should be.
  2. +7
    17 February 2016 21: 36
    "The historical precedent set in this region by the army of Genghis Khan eight centuries ago. The only, but very significant difference will be the presence of the air component of the campaign."

    What, the presence of the Air Force is just the only difference? belay
    1. 0
      17 February 2016 22: 17
      So did Genghis Khan ...
      1. 0
        17 February 2016 22: 30
        Quote: madjik
        So did Genghis Khan ...

        Do you propose, like Genghis Khan, to cut out Muslims without exception? No.
        1. +2
          17 February 2016 22: 49
          Do you propose, like Genghis Khan, to cut out Muslims without exception?

          Which of the many "Genghis Khans" polls massacred Muslims and where?
          1. +8
            17 February 2016 23: 09
            On religious grounds, Genghisides did not touch anyone. And even vice versa: the clergy were forbidden to touch. It was believed that these people were endowed with a certain wisdom.
            But Tamerlan distinguished himself, paving the way for Islam with his sword. According to some reports, he destroyed up to 70 Genghisides so that Islam would become the main religion in the steppe. hi
            1. +2
              18 February 2016 09: 55
              Quote: Kasym
              But Tamerlan distinguished himself, paving the way for Islam with his sword.


              only the traditional, and even not always, somehow he managed to fight Bayazid, the Turkish sultan, even captured him, as a result of which the Turks captured Constantinople for another 100 years. smile
          2. +1
            17 February 2016 23: 09
            Quote: Seal
            Which of the many "Genghis Khans" polls massacred Muslims and where?

            I'm talking about the posted video.
          3. +2
            18 February 2016 09: 53
            Quote: Seal
            Which of the many "Genghis Khans" polls massacred Muslims and where?


            For example, Khan Khulagu, slaughtered the inhabitants of Baghdad, and the Caliph executed who was not rich in Muslim life when others were in poverty smile
        2. -3
          18 February 2016 05: 33
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Do you propose, like Genghis Khan, to cut out Muslims without exception?

          Some experts have data that when Genghis Khan was there, there were no Muslims yet. Even in the project)).
          1. -1
            18 February 2016 09: 59
            Quote: ctepx
            Some experts have data that when Genghis Khan was there, there were no Muslims yet. Even in the project)).

            Mohammed's Sermon
            According to the collection of hadiths of al-Bukhari, Imam al-Bukhari, in the month of Ramadan in 610, when the prophet Muhammad was 40 years old, during solitude in the cave of Hira, an angel appeared to him in a dream, and dictated the first five verses of the Qur'an to him. This (610th) year can be considered the year of the emergence of Islam.

            Genghis Khan mid-10th century later FIVE CENTURIES
            1. 0
              18 February 2016 15: 08
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              This (610th) year can be considered the year of the emergence of Islam.

              Only the calendar is hardly identical to the Christian)).
              1. 0
                18 February 2016 15: 54
                Quote: ctepx
                only the calendar is hardly identical to the Christian

                in terms of?!
                Islamic calendar is kept from hijrah (622 g) the relocation of Muhammad and the first Muslims from Mecca to Medina and 610 is 610
                1. 0
                  18 February 2016 15: 59
                  Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Islamic calendar kept from hijrah (622 g)

                  I understand correctly that the Islamic calendar is calculated from 622 from the birth of Christ?))
                  1. 0
                    18 February 2016 16: 04
                    understand correctly
                    1. 0
                      18 February 2016 16: 07
                      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                      understand correctly

                      Those. the prophet Isa - a contemporary of Mohammed and Jesus Christ, born on 622 earlier - is not the same character?))
                      1. 0
                        18 February 2016 16: 21
                        Quote: ctepx
                        Those. the prophet Isa is a contemporary of Mohammed and Jesus Christ, born 622 years earlier

                        mm, forgive me where you read this ?!
                      2. 0
                        18 February 2016 16: 25
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        mm, forgive me where you read this ?!

                        Forgive my denseness, didn’t, according to the hijra, the prophet Muhammad was born in 570 after Christ?))
                      3. 0
                        18 February 2016 16: 39
                        The date of birth of the Prophet Muhammad is considered to be the night between 11 and 12 days of the month Rabigul Aval of 571 years according to the Gregorian calendar
                      4. 0
                        18 February 2016 16: 44
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        The date of birth of the Prophet Muhammad is considered to be the night between 11 and 12 days of the month Rabigul Aval of 571 years according to the Gregorian calendar

                        One of two things: either Christians embellish, or Muslims underestimate)). However, I am inclined to the third option: both options are not true enough)).
                      5. 0
                        18 February 2016 17: 37
                        in terms of?!
                        Ramadan of the year 610, when the prophet Muhammad was 40 years old, during solitude in the cave of Hira in an dream, an angel Jabrail appeared to him and dictated to him the first five verses of the Koran.
                      6. +1
                        18 February 2016 18: 57
                        Quote: ctepx
                        Those. the prophet Isa - a contemporary of Mohammed and Jesus Christ, born on 622 earlier - is not the same character?))


                        Where is the prophet Isa indicated as a contemporary of Muhammad? belay
                      7. 0
                        19 February 2016 04: 36
                        Quote: Zymran
                        Where is the prophet Isa indicated as a contemporary of Muhammad?

                        And where is indicated differently?))
                      8. 0
                        19 February 2016 06: 35
                        in the date of birth of Muhammad
                      9. 0
                        19 February 2016 07: 21
                        The founding date of Islam (according to Christian chronology) is proved by the date of birth of the founder of Islam)). I have great doubts about the validity of the official date of the birth of Christ)). According to some researchers, it is determined by the year 1152. There are other opinions)).
                      10. 0
                        19 February 2016 07: 34
                        where do you go, I understand, but then ALL chronology shifts including the dates of the reign of Chigishan
                      11. 0
                        19 February 2016 08: 00
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        then ALL chronology shifts

                        Not necessarily at all)). And especially this will apply to dates confirmed by dates. In our case, such a date of the emergence of Islam as 1779 (1152 + 622) will certainly be disputed)).
                      12. 0
                        19 February 2016 12: 15
                        Quote: ctepx
                        In our case, such a date of the emergence of Islam as 1779

                        Kazan doesn’t take it under Ivan the Terrible
      2. +2
        18 February 2016 09: 50
        Quote: madjik
        So did Genghis Khan ...


        and rightly, Genghis Khan was not a Muslim, in his state all religions coexisted like nowhere else. If someone infringed on another on a religious basis, such people were brutally punished.
    2. +1
      18 February 2016 04: 39
      ... but stop already "shaking" Genghis Khan = Caesar Khan = Gaius Julius Caesar = YURI GEORGE THE LONG-HANDED = SAINT GEORGE = GEORGE THE VICTOR .. It's all one man ... His younger brother Ivan Kalita = John Caliph = Yaroslav Mudyev = Khan Batu will be steeper - he became both the emperor (after the death of his elder brother) and the spiritual leader at the same time and concentrated all power in the Empire from Italy to the North Sea in his hands ..
      1. 0
        19 February 2016 10: 38
        Fomenko Detected smile
  3. +3
    17 February 2016 21: 39
    Just like 100 years ago. We will again have to clean and actively defend our southern borders.
    1. -10
      17 February 2016 21: 59
      If 100 years ago Russia did not defend its "brothers" and did not get involved in the war, it would most likely have survived.
      1. +8
        17 February 2016 22: 48
        but in vain minus, the First World War in alliance with the frogmen and limes of the Russian Empire was not needed for spirit
        we had nothing to share with the Germans, the limes before that armed and set the Japanese on us, the French, led by the Rothschilds, with the help of Witte (so that he always had enough oil in hell) entangled RI with debts, as a result, our soldiers died for strangers and strangers interests absolutely disadvantageous to Russia itself
        1. -1
          17 February 2016 23: 27
          And the straits? Russia expressed its mistrust in the actions of the "allies" in the Dardanelles, after which food shortages and popular discontent began to appear spontaneously.
  4. +13
    17 February 2016 21: 39
    It’s time for the descendants of Genghis Khan to discard all local conflicts and start preparing armies, an unequal hour will explode. In fact, the fate of countries that refused to have a modern army is in sight. Asian countries have divorced a lot. And in some countries I don't like superfluous logic, they will hope for Russia until the end.
    1. +9
      17 February 2016 22: 49
      Exercises are held in Kazakhstan regularly, incl. sudden checks. Was in January in the South.
      Another thing is the availability of modern weapons. Although, it must be admitted that the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan are one of the strongest in the region. They put the old Minister of Defense (and the former Prime Minister), the NAS put in his place his strong business executive. We’ll see, but already organized the assembly of the South African armored personnel carriers on the KAMAZ platform. Optics plant (night, etc.) in Astana launched.
      I would like to point out one fact. Education level in CA countries. Still, it is easier to brainwash illiterate people. Jihadists are mostly from educationally weak countries. Or from such Bachabist ones like SA. Where religious education is very developed, which is supported by the state. I agree that there is, for example, the IMU (Uzbeks, who were the most religious in the region back in Soviet times). But in general, the population of Central Asia is unlikely to support jihadists and extremists from outside. And their own ... I am concerned about the situation in our zones, where bad manifestations have appeared lately. In Uzbekistan, the influence of law enforcement agencies is very strong (they nicely moved Karimov's daughter). Therefore, I do not think that after Karimov leaves, something will explode. Tajikistan is worried from the CSTO countries. There was actually a civil war there, drug lords are strong. There are weapons on hand, the presence of "oppositionists" (six months ago, one general was noted for an armed provocation) even among the officers. The Turkmen are "on the safekeeping" and who knows what is happening there. hi
      The United States, like everywhere the fifth column mastered, even invited to the United States. We have early parliamentary elections here. I don’t remember when we had the elections on time. laughing . But in fact, in a month. NAS of the opposition (which is pocket) does not give time at all. That's 99% of his Nur Otan sits (by analogy with United Russia) in parliament and the Senate. All something is reforming our 01.
      1. +1
        17 February 2016 23: 18
        It is interestingly written, dear Dauren. ... Directly - Kazakh "Lord of Sith" ... (I really hope that this will remain just a joke) wink
      2. 0
        18 February 2016 01: 42
        Quote: Kasym
        That's 99% of his Nur Otan sitting (by analogy with United Russia) in parliament and the Senate


        Isn't it 100%?
      3. 0
        18 February 2016 18: 06
        Quote: Kasym
        We’ll see, but already organized the assembly of the South African armored personnel carriers on the KAMAZ platform.

        As far as I understand the whole situation, the assembly of South African BTRs is an initiative of a private enterprise, do you want to say that officials from the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan are here in business?
        Quote: Kasym
        Exercises are held in Kazakhstan regularly, incl. sudden checks. Was in January in the South

        The problem of Kazakhstan itself is not the possibility of getting involved in a military conflict, I think China will not allow this, the investment in Kazakhstan of Chinese firms is simply colossal.
        The problem is rather in creeping Islamization, in the manipulation of public opinion, the internal enemy there is more dangerous.
  5. +10
    17 February 2016 21: 41
    All the same, everything is the same - if it flares up, then the main "firefighter will of course be Russia.
  6. +9
    17 February 2016 21: 43
    My native Kazakhstan! I don’t feel like rotten paws would touch you!
    But Russia is not in trouble! We stand shoulder to shoulder against all enemies! If only you Nazarbayev (and followers) did not allow folk rot!
    1. -5
      18 February 2016 01: 43
      Quote: Baikonur
      If only you Nazarbayev (and followers) did not allow folk rot!


      People's? fish rots with heads and Nurik is a traitor by conviction!
      1. 0
        18 February 2016 20: 08
        Maybe our president is not a saint and was forced to compromise, etc. - but I think that any of us could not do better in his place

        In fact, the foreign policy of the National Academy of Sciences is supported by most of the population - this is a military and economic union with Russia and other fragments of the USSR - the revival of a single market, integration into the EAC.

        It’s wrong to call him a traitor - and I think probably it should be punishable somehow

        Look, for example, Kurds dream of their state and president - albeit with corruption, etc. - but their own - but we have one. And the flag and the republic and the president. Therefore, such disrespectful attitude and nicknames I think will be offensive to most Kazakhs and other peoples of Kazakhstan
        1. +1
          18 February 2016 20: 37
          Quote: Talgat
          Maybe our president is not a saint and was forced to compromise, etc. - but I think that any of us could not do better in his place


          And I think that if he had been timely shot for organizing "December 17, 1986", EBN and his accomplices would have sat like a mouse under a broom, and they would not have dared to think about the Belovezhsky agreement! But the fact that he was not shot - of course, not his fault, but Marked, he would sooner be in the company with EBN! am

          Quote: Talgat
          It’s wrong to call him a traitor - and I think probably somehow it should be punishable. (...) Therefore, such disrespectful attitude and nicknames I think will be offensive to most Kazakhs and other peoples of Kazakhstan


          As for the punishable - thank God, I live not in Kazakhstan, but in Russia - we have freedom of speech, even Putin is often (and with impunity) called by different nicknames!
          By the way. Nurik - not a nickname, and diminutiveaffectionate name form. For some reason you recognize the "Nureke" form? Well, about the "other peoples of Kazakhstan" - you really don't speak for them! Or do you think the Russians like that our language is slowly but persistently squeezed out? In India, where English is fluent 2% population, for some reason 2nd state... laughing
          1. 0
            18 February 2016 21: 17
            Quote: Weyland
            In India, where 2% of the population is fluent in English, for some reason it is 2 state ...
            And in Russia, where Tatar is fluent in approx. 5% for some reason, norequest?!
            Can you show us an unreasonable example and make the Tatar language 2 state language in the Russian Federation .. drinks
            1. 0
              18 February 2016 21: 22
              I wonder why such a mediocre stuffing g ... on the fan?
              Tatar state in Tatarstan, in addition, where does 5% come from? !!!
              1. 0
                19 February 2016 07: 02
                Quote: Weyland
                there is autonomous Tatarstan, where Tatar is quite state
                But in India, English is state-wide throughout the country ..
                Quote: Weyland
                And in the very very multinational Kazakhstan, where much more people are fluent in Russian
                And in the India you mention, there is not even such a nationality - the British, but this did not prevent them from becoming higher than narrow national interests and making it state. And before telling others how to live, you need to prove your beliefs by your own example ..
                Quote: Weyland
                somehow unitary state
                Because, remembering Putin V.V. we are not ready to plant an atomic bomb under the building of the state of Kazakhstan. ”Moreover, the example of Ukraine is very graphic and indicative ..
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                Tatar state in Tatarstan
                Tatarstan - state feel?!
                1. -2
                  19 February 2016 07: 36
                  Quote: Arbogast
                  But in India, English is statewide throughout the country.

                  again you write nonsense
                  you compare round to green, English has been circulated throughout India
                  Quote: Arbogast
                  Tatarstan is the state ?!

                  turn on the fool or do not really understand what it is about ?!
                  Quote: Arbogast
                  And in the mentioned India you do not even have such a nationality - the British, but this did not prevent them from becoming higher than narrow national interests and making it state

                  Do not tell me how many generations spoke English before the departure of the Angles from India? !!!!
            2. 0
              19 February 2016 02: 24
              Quote: Arbogast
              And in Russia, where Tatar is fluent in approx. 5% of the population, for some reason, no


              And in Russia, where Tatar is fluent in approx. 5% of the population are autonomous Tatarstan, where Tatar is quite state. And not only Tatarstan, of course - for multinational Russia - Федерация. And in too very multinational Kazakhstan, where Russian is fluent much more the number of people than Kazakh - for some reason unitary state and all signs on state institutions from bilingual turned into monolingual ...
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  7. -18
    17 February 2016 21: 50
    I don’t understand the moaning about jihadists. Well, they like the Koran and Islam, and good. You just need to block the borders, and bomb Islamic countries to the level of the Stone Age. And all no problems. They will begin to dream of a caliphate within Russia - to ban Islam, the Koran in the oven, and deport all adherents abroad. Even if you have to send 100% Muslims to the link. But no threats to life to normal people will ever come from these possessed.
    1. 0
      17 February 2016 22: 07
      You yourself are possessed. Do you try on Hitler’s crown in front of the mirror?
      1. -10
        17 February 2016 22: 17
        Has the Qur'an begun to learn? Or did it just give urine to the head?
        1. +4
          17 February 2016 23: 03
          Quote: Goauld_Baal
          Has the Qur'an begun to learn?

          they wrote nonsense, by the way, you know that at one time it was the wild division that remained to the end the oath to the Emperor, but the Orthodox Cossacks (stronghold and support) quickly forgot about the oath and ran to their homes

          so that not always a friend is one-believer, and the enemy is unchrist
        2. +2
          17 February 2016 23: 33
          Quote: Goauld_Baal
          Has the Qur'an begun to learn? Or did it just give urine to the head?

          Uniates, such as Orthodox. Only Khatyn and many other atrocities in their account. Where do you think the Bible is?
        3. 0
          17 February 2016 23: 55
          It can be seen that you didn’t hold the Koran in your hands, but you talk about things inaccessible to you. Read at your leisure for the sake of common development.
        4. +3
          17 February 2016 23: 58
          Quote: Goauld_Baal
          Has the Qur'an begun to learn?

          Will we bomb Kazan too? My mother is Muslim, and half of relatives in Kazan are Muslims. Well, I'm baptized. What else do you suggest?
          1. +4
            18 February 2016 10: 20
            Quote: Manul
            Will we bomb Kazan too?
            There is only Voronezh .. laughing
            the Internet meme “Bomb Voronezh” appeared in 2008 year. The fact is that after the war with Georgia, the Russian government allocated a large amount of money to restore South Ossetia. Then one of the Voronezh deputies reacted very jealously to this. He said that "the amount allocated to support South Ossetia is 3 times more than our entire region receives in three years." Therefore, the deputy suggested "better to bomb Voronezh, so that we at least build normal roads." After that, the phrase went for a walk on the net.
    2. -1
      17 February 2016 23: 01
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      ban Islam, the Koran in the furnace, and deport all adherents abroad.

      at one time they banned such a city ... as an "archipelago" as a result, instead of a normal reaction to feces, they received praise and adoration
      1. -1
        17 February 2016 23: 35
        Moreover, nobody really read horseradish archipelago with a cancer body.
        1. +1
          17 February 2016 23: 58
          I read with interest. Solomon Zyuzhtsker tried to spoil the galactic bunch. Criminals offended him in the zone, hence the conclusions.
          1. 0
            18 February 2016 10: 40
            I liked the "Island of Crimea" from the fierce anti-Soviet literature. Especially the denouement.
            But Solzhenitsyn somehow did not accept. Maybe he was still young.
            1. 0
              18 February 2016 10: 41
              but I don’t really, by the way, it would be forbidden if everyone knew, and so many did not hear about this
    3. +3
      18 February 2016 01: 46
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      They will begin to dream of a caliphate within Russia - to ban Islam, the Koran in the oven, and deport all followers abroad


      As Don Gug used to say at the Strugatskys': "Do you know what you're going to get so far!"
  8. +6
    17 February 2016 21: 55
    "In case of aggravation of the situation in Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan, limited intervention of Russia can be expected." ... if the peoples of these states choose Sharia, it is useless to put our guys there for the business interests of local compradors ...
  9. -5
    17 February 2016 22: 00
    ISIS is preparing the next strike in Libya - it will be much more difficult for our VKS to pick out militants from there than from Syria.
    1. +3
      17 February 2016 22: 24
      Quote: Vadim237
      ISIS is preparing the next strike in Libya - it will be much more difficult for our VKS to pick out militants from there than from Syria.

      ... excuse me for being naive, but why "pick out"? ... Miller's "national heritage" was thrown out of there long ago ... Let the French take care of their uranium projects themselves.
      1. 0
        18 February 2016 00: 37
        And we have a type of fight against ISIS Terrorism in Syria will end? - See to another Russian bomb blown up.
  10. +3
    17 February 2016 22: 05
    Genghis Khan was a great ruler. Such in history you can count on the fingers. To build such an empire with laws is to be a genius.
    1. -1
      17 February 2016 22: 57
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      Genghis Khan was a great ruler

      let's not, there are so many myths that no one will ever know what is true, but what fiction
    2. +2
      17 February 2016 23: 02
      Genghis Khan was a great ruler. Such in history you can count on the fingers. To build such an empire with laws is to be a genius.

      It’s enough to be a literary character hi
      About the Batu and Genghis Khan. Let’s take the Turks, for example, the Kazakhs, since they seem to be there and if, what, they’ll correct them, the orientation toward sunrise and sunset is taken as the basis for orientation in space. In the Kazakh language, sunrise is shygys, sunset is batys. Hence the East-Shygys, and the West-Batys. The main holy direction of the Turks (Kazakhs) was and remains the "East".
      If you face east, then on the right (in the Kazakh language “right side” - “he”) will be Ontustik-South, and on the left (in the Kazakh language - “sol”), respectively, Soltustik-North. In this regard, everything located to the west of the steppe for the Kazakhs had the prefix "batu", and to the east - "shygys." Hence, the ruler of any western from the habitat of the Turks (Kazakhs) was called Batu-Khan (Batu). And the one who ruled east - well, for example, China - was Shygys Khan (in our pronunciation, Genghis Khan). That is, all of these Batu, Batu, Batys, and Shagysy (Genghis) could be (and were, after all, the West is full of all sorts of “Karls”) the names of both specific people and common names for all khans-rulers of these areas and territories. By the way, Genghis Khan is simply any “Solar Khan” or “Eastern Khan” and in the language of a number of Volga non-Turkic peoples. But apparently, the Volga peoples still nevertheless adopted this term, well, for example, among the Tatars.
    3. +6
      17 February 2016 23: 32
      The nomads' management at that time was the most "advanced" in my opinion.
      The Khans got out. Since the 12th century, only among the Chingizids. But the competition was fierce among them. For instance. Batu and Kubilaykhan are both grandsons of Genghis Khan. One was marked by a campaign to the West, the other to the East (founded the Yuan dynasty). But both did not "run" the steppe properly.
      Biy is a judge. Well understood the provisions of the steppe law Zhety Zharga (seven provisions). It was not inherited, but "won" by correct judgment.
      Batyrs are military leaders. This title was awarded only for merit.
      Buyers are managers. Many people have not quite the correct judgment about this layer of nomads. The fact is that they were primarily strong business executives. And they had both rights and obligations. He was responsible to the khan for those wars that were provided for the campaign. Equipment, weapons. And God forbid, I don’t send the wrong quantity or bad provisions (or something else). Quickly down to the ground. And if the buy will be unlimited, then the aul has all the rights to migrate - such a khan will not tolerate and will not forgive - here he may lose his head. He was also responsible for cattle, etc. etc. And if the buy turns out to be negligent, then it’s his own fault. The bay-batyrs were especially respected. For example, Kabanbay-batyr, Bogenbay-batyr, etc.
      Aksakals. Here even the khan gives respect to these people. Few of the nomads lived to old age. And these people are a storehouse of life experience. When these people say even the buys shut up and are obliged to silently listen.
      Such as in Europe there was no slavery. Of course, people were hijacked, but mostly craftsmen, who were then assimilated. A few servants were only with the nobility. And as a rule, no more than a couple of people. There was no point in lugging with extra people. hi
      1. 0
        18 February 2016 01: 56
        Quote: Kasym
        Batyrs are military leaders. This title was awarded only for merit.


        Thanks, laughed! Who was it "awarded" by? In modern terms, a batyr is a "field commander", this is never an official title! In fact, they became batyrs: he managed to create his own detachment - that means a batyr! Of course, cowards and weaklings did not become batyrs - but about the merits ... It is interesting to ask the opinion of the Argyns about the merits of Koblandy-batyr laughing
        1. +2
          18 February 2016 12: 09
          Historically, the title of batyr was received by the Kazakhs from the warrior who was the first to break into the ranks of the enemy three times and kill at least one enemy.
          But then this tradition degraded.
        2. 0
          18 February 2016 19: 58
          Well, what is it? Koblandy-batyr honestly deserved his title, but the fact that he killed Biya-Argyn Dair Khoja was history. Because of this, none of the Argyns will certainly drive Kipchaks! hi
          By the way, who knows, if Dobir Khoju had not killed the Koblandy Batyr, there would have been no Argyns and Kereevs moving to Mogulistan in the 15th century, respectively, the Kazakh Khanate would not have been founded, and would have remained in the Abulkhair Khan ulus ... who knows how history would turn back then?
          1. +2
            18 February 2016 20: 58
            Quote: Aposlya
            Because of this, none of the Argyns will certainly drive Kipchaks!


            Are you argyn? And if not, were the Argyns asked? Of course, they won’t be at all the Kipchaks, but personally at Koblandy ... That he was a batyr in fact, they won’t deny this to the Argyns either, but what have the merits to do with it?

            About 20-25 years ago, when there was a fashion for renaming, one journalist (EMNIP, in "Karavan") described the following incident in his life: I come to one district, they invite me to that one, where the local akyn sings the feats of the local batyr. Then the local aksakals turn to me with a request - to raise a question in the press about perpetuating the memory of this batyr, to rename some street or even a village, etc.
            I come to a neighboring area, I mentioned the name of this batyr in a conversation with local aksakals - they immediately darkened: "Why, we well remember this scumbag, the earth is glassy!" As the saying goes, "For you, terrorists are for us, partisans!"smile
    4. 0
      18 February 2016 00: 01
      Interestingly, no trace was left of this legendary empire. And not millennia have passed. Was there a boy?
      1. 0
        18 February 2016 05: 50
        Quote: gergi
        Interestingly, no trace was left of this legendary empire. And not millennia have passed.

        Probably, these are the phantom remnants of the Mughal Empire - the then Soviet Union, which, unlike ours, collapsed, not only by betrayal, but also as a result of a geological disaster.
        1. 0
          18 February 2016 14: 26
          Interestingly, on medieval aglitsky maps, the territory of the Russian kingdom was designated MEGALEON. Doesn’t resemble anything? Indicates huge, big. Almost Mongolian. By the way, the so-called Basques demanded tithing, that is, ten percent. Thirteen percent of us are now being torn. Enlighten when there was an occupation? Then, or now?
          1. -1
            18 February 2016 14: 49
            Quote: gergi
            Thirteen percent of us are now being torn.

            what tax do you mean?
          2. 0
            18 February 2016 19: 59
            Russian businessmen once said that with all the deductions, up to 46% comes ...
            1. 0
              18 February 2016 20: 00
              Quote: Aposlya
              Russian businessmen once said that with all the deductions, up to 46% comes ...

              in the bath for a glass of tea ???
              even in Kazakhstan there isn’t such a thing, and Kazakhstan VAT is something
    5. avt
      +1
      18 February 2016 10: 26
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      . To build such an empire with laws is to be a genius.

      Actually, well, if you read the chronicles that have come down to us, then he got a very specific state, and the Christian of the Nestorian persuasion, the ruler of which, presbyter John, in fact interrupted ... or he was interrupted, like Vania IV, the dynasty and Chinhiz , raised a crown of mud, "quite like Bonya Napoleon.
      Quote: Tambov Wolf
      Genghis Khan was a great ruler. Such in history can be counted on the fingers.

      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      let's not, there are so many myths that no one will ever know what is true, but what fiction

      But why ? Genghis, like great ukry, did not drink away the inheritance and did not ruin it, but quite realistically, he shook the Universe, increasing his power and left a serious inheritance to children. I was in prison, and then ka-a-a-ak jumped out and all the "Mongols" suddenly hearing that Chingiz "leaned back" came running straight from all the steppes and were puzzled by the march to the last sea. laughing
      1. +1
        18 February 2016 10: 35
        Quote: avt
        It's a different story about how he was like Ilya Muromets, but not on the stove, but he was in prison with the Uighurs, and then he jumped out and all the Mongols "suddenly heard that Chingiz" leaned back ", they came running straight from all the steppes and were puzzled by the campaign to the last sea

        so there is almost everything who the "victim" is where he went, why
  11. +3
    17 February 2016 22: 12
    I wonder how our CSTO allies will behave in our military conflict with Turkey. If this happens, you can expect everything from the mad sultan.
  12. -4
    17 February 2016 22: 20
    Quote: Primus Pilus
    I wonder how our CSTO allies will behave in our military conflict with Turkey?

    I think they will join the division of the territories of the Russian Federation together with the NATO countries.
    1. +8
      17 February 2016 22: 33
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      I think they will join the division of the territories of the Russian Federation together with the NATO countries.

      Well, as they divide Ukraine now.
    2. 0
      17 February 2016 22: 47
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      Quote: Primus Pilus
      I wonder how our CSTO allies will behave in our military conflict with Turkey?

      I think they will join the division of the territories of the Russian Federation together with the NATO countries.

      In the territory of the Russian Federation, they can only divide graves in the best case. At worst, they’ll just drag the jam away.
    3. aba
      +1
      17 February 2016 23: 59
      [quote] I think they will join the division of the territories of the Russian Federation [/ quote
      I read your comments on this topic and understand that your essence is the reincarnation of the priest Gapon.
    4. +1
      18 February 2016 02: 00
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      will join the division of the territories of the Russian Federation


      rather, by dividing the territory of Turkey ... laughing
    5. 0
      18 February 2016 02: 00
      Quote: Goauld_Baal
      will join the division of the territories of the Russian Federation


      rather, by dividing the territory of Turkey ... laughing
  13. +4
    17 February 2016 22: 26
    The article is good! Respect to the author!
    Yes, Central Asia is our breeder. I really would not like to have a serious hotbed of tension there. But in today's world, anything can take place. And if everything ends positively in the Middle East, then a big conflict could indeed flare up there. It is necessary to prepare for everything, including the fact that problems may arise not only with the leader of Uzbekistan. The East is not only "a delicate matter ...", but also insidious. I am somehow wary of our Asian allies. But let's hope for their adherence to allied obligations. Although..., Si vis pacem, para bellum (“If you want peace, prepare for war”)..
    I have the honor! soldier
  14. +2
    17 February 2016 22: 48
    Quote: Tol100v
    Quote: Thought Giant
    Russia has never abandoned its allies in trouble

    It would be good for the Allies to remember this! And then recently, many have shown amnesia!

    For some reason it seems to me that Belarus is no longer an ally, you cannot show your back, the policy is two-faced, as in the proverb - "two-faced Anus" laughing
  15. +1
    17 February 2016 22: 48
    Nothing, now we understand that we need to rely more on ourselves, not on friends,
    strengthen the Russian Army and Navy and educate the patriots of their homeland.
  16. 0
    17 February 2016 22: 51
    Quote: Tambov Wolf
    Genghis Khan was a great ruler. Such in history you can count on the fingers. To build such an empire with laws is to be a genius.

    Then the connection was poor, on horseback, there was no television, there were no Western partners either, but there weren’t much, but if there were, they would have ruined everything fellow
    1. 0
      18 February 2016 05: 58
      Quote: Papapg
      Then the connection was poor, on horseback, there was no television, there were no WESTERN PARTNERS

      Who then did Genghis Khan conquer?))
  17. +2
    17 February 2016 22: 57
    Actually, the Islamic State (Islamic State) is not a territory that can be liberated - it is an ideology - which cannot be defeated by war - and will manifest itself again and again - only the eradication of radical Islamism will correct the situation - but Christians cannot break them - only Muslims themselves can cope with them
    1. +1
      18 February 2016 06: 01
      Quote: viktor561
      only the eradication of radical Islamism will correct the situation - but Christians cannot break them

      It is enough to cut off external funding, which the "Anglo-Saxon Christians" provide)). By itself, radical Islamism is not viable, like banditry)).
  18. -3
    17 February 2016 22: 58
    The "Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan" and the Uzbek "Akramiyya", "Nurchilar", "Muslim birodarlar", "Jamaat of the Mujahideen of Central Asia", the Kazakh "Jund al-Khalifa", the Uyghur "Islamic Party of East Turkestan", the Tajik "Jamaat Ansarulloh" Pan-Islamic “Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami”, “Tablighi Jamaat”
    Well, the names, you break the language while you read it. One can only imagine if all this pack, suddenly begins to take some sort of steps against Russia. Well, nothing, we are a staunch people. As the saying goes: let's look at whose x .. the fly sits down.
  19. +2
    17 February 2016 23: 06
    the historical precedent laid by Genghis Khan’s army in this region eight centuries ago

    Well, at least specify what kind of Genghis Khan mean?
    About the Batu and Genghis Khan. Let’s take the Turks, for example, the Kazakhs, since they seem to be there and if, what, they’ll correct them, the orientation toward sunrise and sunset is taken as the basis for orientation in space. In the Kazakh language, sunrise is shygys, sunset is batys. Hence the East-Shygys, and the West-Batys. The main holy direction of the Turks (Kazakhs) was and remains the "East".
    If you face east, then on the right (in the Kazakh language “right side” - “he”) will be Ontustik-South, and on the left (in the Kazakh language - “sol”), respectively, Soltustik-North. In this regard, everything located to the west of the steppe for the Kazakhs had the prefix "batu", and to the east - "shygys." Hence, the ruler of any western from the habitat of the Turks (Kazakhs) was called Batu-Khan (Batu). And the one who ruled east - well, for example, China - was Shygys Khan (in our pronunciation, Genghis Khan). That is, all of these Batu, Batu, Batys, and Shagysy (Genghis) could be (and were, after all, the West is full of all sorts of “Karls”) the names of both specific people and common names for all khans-rulers of these areas and territories. By the way, Genghis Khan is simply any “Solar Khan” or “Eastern Khan” and in the language of a number of Volga non-Turkic peoples. But apparently, the Volga peoples still nevertheless adopted this term, well, for example, among the Tatars.
  20. +3
    17 February 2016 23: 10
    Zhirinovsky on this occasion said correctly: The blow should be such that no one else could afford to cross the border of the Russian Federation even in thoughts.
    We have enough funds for this. Do not be afraid of the opinion of a tolerant O-py ...
  21. +2
    18 February 2016 00: 32
    "We have enough funds for this. Do not be afraid of the opinion of a tolerant O-py ..."
    The question is - in whose hands is the "suitcase" of "funds" ...... Diplomatic gloss and modern uniform do not yet make people patriots ...
  22. 0
    18 February 2016 02: 38
    Russia, as always, the world does not shine.
    Such is the historical fate determined by geography.
  23. 0
    18 February 2016 02: 48
    The realities of Genghis Khan and modern ... Well, you can also compare gasoline and beer, from far away they seem the same.
  24. -1
    18 February 2016 03: 01
    Quote: Tra-ta-ta
    Zhirinovsky on this occasion said correctly: The blow should be such that no one else could afford to cross the border of the Russian Federation even in thoughts.
    We have enough funds for this. Do not be afraid of the opinion of a tolerant O-py ...


    Not really the Great Turkish Nuclear Desert named after Erdogan and the Bosphorus Sea - the deepest and most uninhabited sea in the world?
  25. -1
    18 February 2016 03: 25
    I read the article! I read the comments !! Aw !!! Are there any adequate ones? Even Psaki didn’t say so much nonsense what was written here! Out of an hour at least one vpdel what we have for the videoconferencing? Or an army? Three specialists, the rest of the annual potions which even I do not trust the machine! And by the way, contractors are doing what conscripts used to do! They also sweep and dig!
    1. +2
      18 February 2016 06: 08
      Quote: Nehist
      by the way, the contractors are doing what conscripts used to do! They also sweep and dig!

      Are you a supporter that a guria be attached to each soldier for service?))
      And you can’t evaluate the army by the thickness of the snow removed. What kind of VKS and MTR we have, I think not only we, the whole world sees.
    2. 0
      18 February 2016 14: 14
      at least one hour what is our VKS? Or an army?
      Are you adequate? Who flies in Syria? Regarding annual conscripts, I agree, it’s not enough, but they have begun to mow less from the army — it’s already good, and contract workers should be specialists.
  26. 0
    18 February 2016 04: 06
    Russia stopudovo harnessed to the allies. The question is whether the Allies will run into Russia.
  27. EDP
    0
    18 February 2016 04: 28
    Timely article, cool hotheads. An example of Russia's participation in Syria shows what military units can do under the leadership of the RF Armed Forces. Therefore, it is necessary to conduct joint exercises over and over again, demonstrating the readiness of an adequate response to any attempts to destabilize the situation in the region.
  28. 0
    18 February 2016 05: 09
    The more we pile in Syria, the less likely it is that someone will want to get in touch with Russia somewhere else.
  29. 0
    18 February 2016 05: 29
    What a contrived article. We are not going to leave them under the CSTO agreement, despite the successes in Syria. But why are jihadists? Do not care where, if only against Russia? Prior to this, they all matured in places of oil and gas transportation (the places of production are controlled by the USA). In the post-Soviet republics, you need to wait for new Maidans under the guidance of overseas puppeteers, rather than the large-scale appearance of jihadists.
  30. 0
    18 February 2016 05: 49
    Russia is an unconditional player in world politics, there is nothing without it, and there has always been tension in Central Asia, even when everything seemed calm there, history is a vivid confirmation of this, but the key must not be sought in Central Asia as such, after Syria, terrorism as the main weapon of the West , you will need to take a breath (change of power in the United States) and lick your wounds and accumulate weapons, for which you need money, a lot of money, where to get it, yes in Libya, as well as in north and central Africa, only after that the Yankees and Anglo-Saxons will climb somewhere to rule the world, including Central Asia and further to the East, so we will have 1-2 years of "respite", but then ..., and Central Asia will ignite (the main troublemaker will obviously be Turkey) and will to interfere when it is "told", its role is not the main one, but raising the degree of tension in the region and diverting from the preparation and delivery of the main main blow is the main task for this region.
  31. +1
    18 February 2016 07: 05
    Quote: afrikanez
    The "Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan" and the Uzbek "Akramiyya", "Nurchilar", "Muslim birodarlar", "Jamaat of the Mujahideen of Central Asia", the Kazakh "Jund al-Khalifa", the Uyghur "Islamic Party of East Turkestan", the Tajik "Jamaat Ansarulloh" Pan-Islamic “Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami”, “Tablighi Jamaat”
    Well, the names, you break the language while you read it. One can only imagine if all this pack, suddenly begins to take some sort of steps against Russia. Well, nothing, we are a staunch people. As the saying goes: let's look at whose x .. the fly sits down.

    All these names are from fucking Arabic!
  32. +1
    18 February 2016 09: 59
    Quote: Mig-31
    Quote: afrikanez
    The "Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan" and the Uzbek "Akramiyya", "Nurchilar", "Muslim birodarlar", "Jamaat of the Mujahideen of Central Asia", the Kazakh "Jund al-Khalifa", the Uyghur "Islamic Party of East Turkestan", the Tajik "Jamaat Ansarulloh" Pan-Islamic “Hizb ut-Tahrir al-Islami”, “Tablighi Jamaat”
    Well, the names, you break the language while you read it. One can only imagine if all this pack, suddenly begins to take some sort of steps against Russia. Well, nothing, we are a staunch people. As the saying goes: let's look at whose x .. the fly sits down.

    All these names are from fucking Arabic!

    And what are the cons? Because I called Arabic fucking? Maybe for you minus signers, the Arabic favorite language, for me it remains fucking.
    1. -2
      18 February 2016 10: 03
      Quote: Mig-31
      for calling the fucking arabic language?

      just for that
      Quote: Mig-31
      Maybe for you minus signers, the Arabic favorite language, for me it remains fucking.

      my native Russian is for me, but would you have a good mind, by the way, when you wrote your nickname didn’t mean Arabic characters ?!
      1. +1
        18 February 2016 10: 45
        Well, kiss opu Arabic and learn Arabic, it may come in handy!
        1. -2
          18 February 2016 11: 02
          are you friends with your head ?!
    2. 0
      18 February 2016 20: 13
      Quote: Mig-31
      And what are the cons? Because I called Arabic fucking?


      Come on. There you go. + But all the same, you shouldn’t call a fucking language - people who are fighting on our side also speak it.
  33. +3
    18 February 2016 10: 14
    I live in Kazakhstan, and the flag is visible.

    I once visited the modern Kazakh army on business. Appreciated: combatant - good, the rest is bad. Last year there was a tragic confirmation: "Four servicemen, according to the press service of the Ministry of Defense of the Republic of Kazakhstan, drowned during exercises in Aktau" (18/09/2015). The exercises were international, i.e. with the Russians. Marine paratroopers drowned 100 m from the coast right in front of the tribune for the authorities and the press !!! The chiefs were punished, but I did not see any servicemen in the pools ...

    Now about the official foreign policy of Russia in our regional center. From him - one elderly lady, to put it mildly, with a difficult character and a low desire to do anything, even somehow. But there are queues to the Turkish consulate. Western cultural centers and "study clubs" are common in the city. Russian, however, only at official events. Those. the Ukrainian scenario of soft power is being repeated, although with a time delay - no conclusions or changes were made.

    By the way, no one writes about the influence of the fifth (liberal) column from Russia on Kazakhstani sentiments. And it is huge and destructive! I have many examples. But most of all I was impressed by the incident on the train, when, in response to my story about Petrodvorets, a young educated Kazakh woman said that she was sorry that she would not see it. To my bewilderment - why won't he see? She replied: "Well, they are killing us there." Let me remind you that several years ago in the Russian media there was a campaign to schedule the murders of migrants, such as "A citizen of Uzbekistan was killed on the Day of National Unity in the Northern Capital" - that's what the lady had to say.

    And you can write a lot about the influence of Western propaganda, local corruption, religion, nationalism and a liberal column on young heads. But about the Russian desire to influence - the frequent splash screen on 1tv.ru speaks best of all - it is forbidden to be shown in your region. By the way, do you know that the Sochi Olympics in Kazakhstan were watched from Japan? Those. they chose what to watch, Japanese success or Russian. What do you think they showed us?

    Am I all this to what? I would like not only the Ministry of Defense of Russia, but also other ministries to work as they should!
  34. +1
    18 February 2016 10: 42
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    Quote: Mig-31
    for calling the fucking arabic language?

    just for that
    Quote: Mig-31
    Maybe for you minus signers, the Arabic favorite language, for me it remains fucking.

    my native Russian is for me, but would you have a good mind, by the way, when you wrote your nickname didn’t mean Arabic characters ?!

    What does the symbol and language have to do with it? And why are you suddenly defending the Arabic language? Or was Chechnya missing? What should Wahhabis Arabs protect if they bring chaos and death.
    1. -2
      18 February 2016 10: 44
      Quote: Mig-31
      And why are you suddenly defending the Arabic language?

      and we all grazed sheep together ?!
      I remember something like that
      Quote: Mig-31
      Or was Chechnya missing?

      Are you sure that Russian is native to you?
      Quote: Mig-31
      What are the Wahhabis Arabs

      how old are you?!!!!!
      Quote: Mig-31
      What does the symbol and language have to do with it?

      studying, studying and studying again
      1. +1
        18 February 2016 11: 02
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        and we all grazed sheep together ?!
        I remember something like that

        Well, certainly the pigs didn’t eat together so that you could turn to you!
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Are you sure that Russian is native to you?

        Both Russian and Kazakh are dear to me!
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        how old are you?!!!!!

        Don’t worry about my age.
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        studying, studying and studying again

        This teaching is light! So I’ll study until the end of my life!
        1. -2
          18 February 2016 11: 04
          Quote: Mig-31
          Both Russian and Kazakh are dear to me!

          Quote: Mig-31
          Or was Chechnya missing?

          I doubt such a phrase
          Quote: Mig-31
          Well, certainly the pigs didn’t eat together so that you could turn to you!

          you are my friend ordinary boor, what boor stupid and uneducated
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  36. +1
    18 February 2016 11: 17
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    I doubt such a phrase

    After such mistakes, you can certainly learn Arabic!
    1. -1
      18 February 2016 11: 21
      I'm saying stupid
      look at Claudia and understand a lot (maybe)
      1. +1
        18 February 2016 11: 36
        The person who called me stupid is not necessarily smarter than me.
        1. -2
          18 February 2016 12: 03
          I agree, only you do not get smarter from this
          and if you take into account the nonsense of which you write ...
          1. +1
            18 February 2016 12: 20
            And where did you see the nonsense? "Fucking Arabic" is my personal opinion.
            1. -2
              18 February 2016 12: 22
              poke a "respected" finger in your ass,
              long, many and with pleasure
              and about the language, so this is your tongue dirty and smelly
              1. 0
                18 February 2016 20: 18
                Enough of you to have a dog ...
                1. 0
                  18 February 2016 20: 18
                  but how else can you communicate with the Nazi ?!
              2. 0
                18 February 2016 20: 22
                Maybe MiG 31 got excited about calling the Arabic language "fucking" - but I think he meant a negative attitude towards the Saudis and Qatar and other sponsors of terrorists
                Just distracted - did not remember. that for example, Asma Assad also speaks Arabic - inspiring Syrian women in confronting war and misfortune

                But Vasilenko, in my opinion, again crosses the border - so you can understand it in two ways - he (is sure) will say that he had in mind the language as part of the body of Mig 31 - using epithets (see his post)
                But it sounds like he means our language.
                1. 0
                  18 February 2016 20: 28
                  Quote: Talgat
                  but I think he had in mind a negative attitude towards the Saudis and Qatar and other sponsors of terrorists

                  he clearly and concretely wrote what he meant
                  Quote: Talgat
                  he (sure) will say that he had in mind the language as part of the body of Mig 31 - using epithets

                  this is exactly what I had in mind and it is quite understandable and sounds just like that, but you (representatives of Kazakhstan), as often happens, transfer any criticism of a particular person to Kazakh nationality

                  Quote: Talgat
                  But Vasilenko in my opinion again crosses the border

                  that is, calling the Arabic language "fucking" got excited, and I called the tongue (organ) of the person who said such a filthy overstepping the boundaries? !!
                2. 0
                  18 February 2016 20: 42
                  Quote: Talgat
                  But it sounds like he means our language

                  what is yours? !!!!!
                  Russian? after all, we are communicating on the great and mighty
                  what I noticed a long time ago is that the Russian Russian can stick his nose into the fact that he is wrong, but for some reason representatives of the titular nations, even if their fellow tribesman says frank muck, will stand on his side and will protect him in every possible way, by the way in a skirmish I entered with this Nazi, being absolutely sure that I was talking with Russian, it didn’t even enter my head that a Muslim could say such a thing about the language of the Koran
  37. +2
    18 February 2016 12: 44
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    poke a "respected" finger in your ass,
    long, many and with pleasure

    I suppose you indulge in it yourself?
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    and about the language, so this is your tongue dirty and smelly

    Judging by how he switched to an abusive statement, you have nothing to say.