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Rogozin: corruption in the defense industry - conniving to the enemies of the country

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On the execution of state defense orders


The volume of the state defense order (this year) has increased almost 1,5 times, so the number of contracts is increasing, but the discipline is also improving. We plan that this year we will reach approximately 96% of the execution of the state defense order. We have a large number of activities related to import substitution, there are short deliveries of the equipment and components that were previously ordered from partners abroad. Accordingly, the production of these components on the territory of Russia is unfolding, so we have to clarify something. But this is not essential.

On import substitution and Achilles heels


I believe that this is simply an axiom that should be: everything related to the production of military products, everything should be completely independent of the situation in international politics. Everything should be focused, or almost everything, on the territory of Russia.

Of course, there are things and positions that it is very difficult to import fully to replace. The two Achilles' heels that we have are microelectronics and machine-tool construction. Well, it was absent altogether, did not exist in the country as a whole. In fact, this cannot be done at once. This billion dollars costs just a clean workshop in itself in order to produce this kind of equipment. Nevertheless, now we have dramatically increased the proportion of what we do with our own hands, we have reduced the type of spacecraft by itself, we have found universal solutions where designers can use each other’s practices, created a design bureau in our country. And the production of these elements themselves is either on the territory of Russia, or on the territory of Belarus, which is our ally in this matter, or on the territory of those countries that have not joined the sanctions.

The same applies to machine tools, it was completely overwhelmed in the 90-s in our country and did not develop. Therefore, nowadays, high-precision machine tools are being developed at an accelerated rate, which we use in the military-industrial complex, in civilian sectors, aircraft industry, in space ... But still, this cannot be replaced at once. For 2 of the year, this is just a frivolous task setting. Therefore, somewhere we continue to deliver something from other partners who have not joined this wave of sanctions. But still the bet on import substitution. We will decide the main, most difficult positions in 18.

About Ukrainian accessory companies that fail


We have two projects of naval ships fleetwhere gas turbine units (GTA) are used as power machines. They used to always, in the framework of Soviet cooperation, were produced on the territory of Ukraine. In particular, at the Nikolaev Zorya-Mashproekt plant. We sent money there, paid them before this Maidan - neither money, nor GTA!

We launched the production of these units on our territory, but not only copying what Ukraine did, but moving further ahead. That is, it is much more modernized powerful samples.

This will be in 18 year. Therefore, our concentration has been strengthened on those fundamental points that have hampered the creation of whole large samples of military equipment, and we will do small things later.

About distortions on the "East"


There are, of course, imbalances, redundancies, such as, for example, with the Vostochny spaceport. When, on the one hand, we have the fact that it is obvious: for 3 of the year in the taiga, in places of absolute remoteness from labor resources, from technology, a unique, newest cosmodrome is built. But there are facts of misuse, about which there is a lot of fairness. But it seems that everything was stolen there. No, not everything was stolen there, let's say softly. 20 criminal cases that are opened on the facts of offenses in the financial sphere in the course of work at the Vostochny cosmodrome are all related to the period of 12 – 13. After restoring order, when the president instructed the government to exercise direct control over the spaceport, this kind of evidence no longer exists. And I say it again: the spaceport has been built. Therefore, here we must bear in mind that there is such a kind of wave that is present in public opinion, and there is a real picture.

On toughening penalties for theft in the military industrial complex


Why so many emotions when they steal, say, from the state defense order or when they trade weaponspassing it on to gangsters or terrorists? For one simple reason. This is not just a fact of fraud or embezzlement when money leaves the budget. This is, in essence, indulgence of the enemies of the country. That is, either this indulgence of terrorists, if we are talking about, say, the transfer of weapons to them. If we talk about the facts of corruption in the defense sector, then this is, in essence, a damage to the country's defense. The country's defense shield has become much thinner. And, of course, for it (it is necessary) to punish not just as for an economic crime. Shoot, do not shoot - there is no need for absolutely exotic measures. But the fact that the punishment should be percent on 30, on 50 is tougher than in the usual article - I am absolutely convinced of this.

On the responsibility of the defense industry


Why do defenders get more than those involved in the civil industry? Because we are not as relaxed as they are. Our pilots are fighting in Syria, our special forces are fighting in the North Caucasus with a terrorist threat, and we are fully responsible for ensuring that these guys return home alive and healthy, so that the weapons they use will be saved and not saved by those who they are trying to shoot, who are trying to shoot at our people. Therefore, the defense industry is a special bone.

About Mistrals and Big Politics

Everything connected with military-technical cooperation is all a subject of a very big policy. Take at least "Mistrali." France found itself in conditions when it was forced to prevent the issuance of an export license for the transfer of two ready-made ships to us. Is this a sovereign decision of France? I think no. I think this is a direct consequence of the fact that a few years ago France returned to the military organization of NATO. And so their allied obligations are so-called. That is, the Americans twisted their hands and twisted them in the end. We even know how it was done, how it was arranged, what economic harsh conditions.

About Turks and Citizenship

With Turkey, we had only relations in the segment of civilian small arms. In economy class, they supplied smooth-bore guns, which enjoyed a certain popularity in our stores. The gunsmiths themselves, without any commands, shouting from above, simply by virtue of their own civil position, decided to abandon these weapons, returned them to all Turkish manufacturers, removed them from the shelves, and gave free space on the weapons display to Russian manufacturers. This is what is called the position of men. And so we in the military sphere with the Turks was nothing.

About military potential and awl in your pocket

Mathematics in geopolitics is not the best help. Not everything is considered an economic potential. There are many other factors, including even subjective factors: the authority of the country's leadership, the volitional qualities of the country's leadership, and so on.

The combined economic potential of the member countries of the European Union plus America and Canada, which results in a large NATO, of course, is several times larger than our economic potential. But from the point of view of securing oneself from a military conflict with the West, not only economic potential is necessary. And a metamorphosis of money is needed in the means of restraint chosen by the political and military leadership of the country that will allow this threat to be avoided. The threat can be contained not only by creating strategic parity, which the Soviet Union did and eventually collapsed. After all, it can be done at a different level, the minimum sufficient. At the level of defensive sufficiency. That is, to have some kind of awl that is exactly perfect, being stuck in different places, will not please the potential aggressor. And this will restrain him at distant approaches from the very thought of dealing militarily with the Russian Federation. Therefore, we choose such means of deterrence, which the potential aggressor may not like very much, despite the fact that we perfectly objectively estimate that our economic potential is lower.

Then I must say that our weapons are just cheaper. Say, how much is the American generation 5 aircraft and our generation 5 aircraft? They are not comparable in price. We have incomparable salaries. We have incomparable raw materials. And many many others. Therefore, all these liberal dollar calculus are now lame when we talk about strategies and tactics, and ways to deter a potential aggressor.

About weapon accuracy


The course of the anti-terrorist operation in Syria shows that the Russian Federation already has aviation, with her high-precision missile weapons, she moved to a completely different league. And we see how today our armed forces can strike at enemy combat facilities without harming the civilian population. That is, we, due to precision weapons, extremely minimized all sorts of related victims. Unlike, say, Americans, who seemingly have so many precision weapons! There are much more possibilities. It was created by them much earlier. Nevertheless, in one village of Afghanistan they will hit the hospital, then in another place they will bomb the wedding. Here you are, and real opportunities!

About cyber weapons

Perceive it must be different. From social networks, which are a tool for organizing mass discontent, calculating who you can work with. By likes that people put on Facebook, one can understand his political preferences, and then find an approach to him, begin to work with him purposefully, make targeted mailings, invitations to all sorts of political events. And then bring it to the "Arab Springs" and other springs.

And the second point is, of course, an attempt to use open access, in order to enter the Internet networks of another country and at the moment of “Ch” to produce chaos in these networks, to confuse political and military leadership.

There is another way, so-called bookmarks. Any new weapon - it is usually a smart weapon, has a cyber brain inside itself. So, if the country itself does not produce, as in our case, a significant part of microelectronics, then there may be bookmarks in the supply of someone else’s microelectronics, which will be activated at a certain moment. Well, let's say, a machine that has some kind of software for the production of a certain very important part can theoretically reset information about the task that it is assigned to in real time. Throw to where we would not want it to be dumped. Therefore, we prevent, and do it effectively, any industrial espionage and prevent us from getting into, especially in the manufacture of military equipment, all sorts of such interesting things. We know how to do it, and have already secured ourselves.

About domestic aviation

A huge country with so many time zones is simply obliged to have its own aviation industry. When today we have 80 percent of all long-range aircraft - these are foreign aircraft, this is a big mistake. When today we are pushing out our aircraft on medium-haul roads, on near-haul roads this is a huge mistake.

Therefore, with a certain regularity, we hold all sorts of meetings with the aviation industry, with designers, with technologists. We allocate the necessary money for promising work. And in the end, what do we have? As a result, we have today the fact that we have made a huge step in the development of our combat aviation recently. Take, for example, the Sukhoi aircraft, this is Su-30CM, Su-35С, a promising aviation complex of front-line aviation. The new MIG is now on our way, that is, the 35. The production of IL-76 from Tashkent to Ulyanovsk is completely transferred. Created a new upgraded aircraft on 80 percent updated - IL-476. Work is underway to modernize strategic aviation. I can continue to tell many, many, many, not to mention the SuperJet.

Just the other day, we reported to the president about the beginning of flight tests of our newest aircraft engine. I myself went to Zhukovsky just where I was raised on the first flight of the IL-76. He has four engines, one was shot. PD-14 was delivered, here is this Perm new engine with 14-tonnage. And the first take-off is a very touching, very powerful emotional event for all aviation workers. Because we haven't done it for 29 years. This is a fundamentally new engine using composite materials. New engineering solution. In fuel efficiency, it is 30 percent better than PS-90, which now flies all of our heavy aircraft.

The aircraft in Irkutsk, at the Irkutsk Aviation Plant, MS-21, will fly in June-July next year. Already assembled fully fuselage. The aircraft is unique and centrally, it has a composite light wing. Production, unique in itself, is a production culture. Western experts also come, they click their tongues, they have never seen anything like this before. We will put this plane on the wing next year, and we plan that already with 2017, we will start launching it in the series. With 2018, he will go with our engine, and not with the Canadian one.

About your activity in social networks


This is my contempt for these moral monsters who destroyed Ukraine, captured it. This is my hatred of Russophobes and enemies. Well, it is best to talk to them, reacting sharply, with humor. Therefore, this is my so small psychological warfare, which I am also leading.

Well, then all the same I graduated from the faculty of journalism at Moscow University. And there they were taught to understand people and get to the bottom of the truth. And therefore all the rest of my education - in no case did they get rid of the journalistic spots in my youth. Therefore, I react as a person, as a publicist, to human stupidity, to treason, to betrayal, to tyranny.
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  1. rov81
    rov81 3 February 2016 18: 50
    34
    Corruption in any field is treason to the Motherland! For this you need to be severely punished!
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 3 February 2016 18: 58
      -6
      Half of the country can be shot for giving a bribe. Even more.

      Well, a quarter of the country - for taking a bribe at execution. Well, the remaining third simply did not catch





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      2. vovanpain
        vovanpain 3 February 2016 19: 12
        13
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        Half of the country can be shot for giving a bribe. Even more.

        Well, if one half needs to be shot for giving bribes, then the other half needs to be shot for taking bribes, and who will work? request
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 3 February 2016 19: 18
          14
          I got confused in half and two quarters but not the point.

          I am proud that I did not take kickbacks at work in my time, my wife says that I am not an intelligent person, like my sidekick.

          But. I gave bribes to speed up the process. In fact - a penny and more for window dressing - in fact I gave a bribe. This is bad, but fast.

          In general, it was not Vasilyeva and Serdyukov who came up with bribes. And not even Menshikov. Throughout the history of mankind there has been gratitude expressed in anything.

          I’m not saying that bribes and corruption are good - but I don’t see any reason to get stuck on this, because it is and is always present. This is just the working moment of the internal affairs and economic security agencies - and what we discuss on the forums is the point?

          In omerika, they approached this matter creatively - they legitimized it, so they tell everyone about bribes in other countries and draw beautiful ratings.

          And the holy man minus me. I admit that there are such and am glad of this fact)

          1. Inok10
            Inok10 3 February 2016 19: 31
            +3
            Quote: s-t Petrov
            And the holy man minus me. I admit that there are such and am glad of this fact)

            ... well, tomorrow this "holy man" will buy the rights from the GAITS for going to the oncoming lane .. well, today, yes ... they are fighting and do not accept corruption in any form ... well, not on the bus to his work go, and the wife to the market, and the children to school ... laughing
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            2. Balferov
              Balferov 3 February 2016 20: 23
              -9
              Quote: Inok10
              The "holy man" will buy the driver's license from GAITS for going to the oncoming lane ..

              Soon they will not be redeemed for the "oncoming lane", but they will shoot these "GAITS", they have earned a credit ... and
              1. Asadullah
                Asadullah 3 February 2016 22: 34
                18
                and to shoot these "GAITS", they deserve a piss ... and


                For more than ten years now, on business trips, I've been to Russia just like passing through. Almost all the time by car, Moscow-Ural-Moscow. They stopped, and fined and forgiven, but never once extorted a bribe. Although it didn’t provoke, and maybe the erysipelas, it doesn’t inspire confidence in me .... there is one fact, you are so hated road builders, this is part of you, your continuation. You will not give, they will not take. Man is weak, this does not make each other weaker, we must do stronger. Delinquent, have the courage to answer according to the law, and it turns out that the law is for others, and then we hate the authorities together .....
            3. Balferov
              Balferov 3 February 2016 20: 24
              -8
              Quote: Inok10
              redeem rights from GAITS for leaving for the oncoming lane ..

              and you from these gayts just? i see knowledgeable
            4. nils
              nils 3 February 2016 20: 45
              +6
              Only a very naive person can believe that in this system it is possible to achieve a result in the fight against corruption by any toughening.
              A system where Serdyukov is clean, like a freshly washed baby, and is not guilty of anything.
              A system where, in spite of any errors, incompetence, economic crimes and corruption, no one in power has ever been held responsible for this.
              A system in which the elite does not associate itself with its people, and does everything possible to create alternate airfields abroad.
              A system where there is not a single sector of the life of society that could be truly, humanly proud of.

              Putin - "Boris Nikolayevich Yeltsin, together with the new Russia, went the path of the most difficult but necessary transformations. He headed the process of cardinal changes that brought Russia out of the impasse. Russia received a second birth. It has become a civilized open state, and the role of the first president in the formation of this state is enormous.
              It was at this time that Russia was born open and thinking about people, formed democratic institutions, the Constitution of Russia was adopted, which proclaimed the supreme value of human rights and freedom.

              Stanislav Lem - "Your whole democracy is the power of schemers, chosen by fools."

              So who is leading us? If Putin does not subordinate the interests of elites to the needs of the state, the evolution of the system and the change of elites is inevitable, as has already happened in our history more than once.
              1. Throw
                Throw 3 February 2016 21: 05
                +8
                So the system has already found the main corrupt officials! Here they are, the roots of evil:
                1. Inok10
                  Inok10 3 February 2016 21: 17
                  +3
                  Quote: Lance
                  Ak Sistema has already found the main corrupt officials! Here they are, the roots of evil:

                  ... St. George ... hi ... the worst terrorist in our Russian reality ... this is the one who really wants to, but they don’t give him . laughing
                  1. Throw
                    Throw 4 February 2016 04: 45
                    +1
                    With one "n" pishezzo))
                    And these are those who were given everything, but they won’t get drunk in any way ...
                2. Dr. Bormental
                  Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 22: 47
                  +3
                  It would be funny if it were not so sad (((
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          2. Asadullah
            Asadullah 3 February 2016 22: 25
            +6
            I am proud that I did not take kickbacks at work in due time, my wife says that I am not a smart person, like my sidekick.

            But. I gave bribes to speed up the process. In fact - a penny and more for window dressing - in fact I gave a bribe. This is bad, but fast.


            And I planted those who took. Even pulled from abroad. But I’m not proud, it would be better if I drank them .... although not one of them was the ideal of a bad person, I just completely understood the misfortune that they created. And they produce. I have nothing against you personally hi , but to take bribes, this is theft on trust, and to give a bribe, this is prostitution.
        2. NIKNN
          NIKNN 3 February 2016 19: 30
          12
          Of the 35 ministries and departments of Russia (including even 76 subordinate to the ministries and agencies), experts took the top five most corrupt to the “finals”, each of which has the ability to “saw through” from 5 billion to 100 trillion a year (as budget money , and those that did not go to the budget):
          1. The Ministry of Defense (as well as the Spetsstroy subordinate to it);
          2. The Ministry of Transport (as well as Rosavtodor subordinate to it);
          3. The Ministry of Economic Development (and especially the Rosimushchestvo and Rosreestr subordinate to it);
          4. The Ministry of Health and Social Development (as well as the Rospotrebnadzor subordinate to it);
          5. The Ministry of Finance (primarily its Department of Budget Policy, as well as its subordinate Rosstrakhnadzor and the Federal Treasury).
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 3 February 2016 19: 35
            +9
            Quote: NIKNN
            experts brought to the “finals” 5 most corrupt

            ... in Russia from the centuries they say: .. "Stop the thief loudest of all, the thief himself shouts" ... this is about "experts" and analysts .. laughing
            1. NIKNN
              NIKNN 3 February 2016 20: 07
              13
              The President once called the Prosecutor General to himself:
              - Well, how are things in the state?
              “They steal, Mr. President.”
              - So Russia is still alive!
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 3 February 2016 20: 25
                +3
                Quote: NIKNN
                - So Russia is still alive!

                + ... laughing
          2. PHANTOM-AS
            PHANTOM-AS 3 February 2016 19: 35
            +5
            Quote: NIKNN
            experts brought to the “finals” the top 5 most corrupt ones, each of which has the opportunity to “cut” from 100 billion to 1 trillion a year (both budget money and those that did not go to the budget):

            Great TOP LIST!
            There are no comments. am
          3. Asadullah
            Asadullah 3 February 2016 23: 01
            +3
            experts brought to the “finals” 5 most corrupt


            And who are these experts? Especially regarding MO? The fact is that if for the rest, it is possible to conduct sociological polls there, experiments, read the invoice, then who informs the closed departments? it was interesting to see at least a couple of names. And then some sort of orgasm of knowledge about everything ....
          4. jonht
            jonht 4 February 2016 02: 41
            +6
            You are only wrong about one thing, you forgot the Fisheries Committee! That's where they really row a lot. Obtain quotas, implement quotas, and how much more is chosen above the quota. Himself from Kamchatka, everything is familiar not by hearsay, the whole crab is near the Muscovites and there are such kickbacks both to the authorities and to the committee, moreover, not to our local but to Moscow bureaucrats. So I recall the words of Peter I, "The fish trade is a primordially thieves' business, therefore I command one of them to be hung up once a year, so that others will be discouraged."
      3. Starik72
        Starik72 3 February 2016 22: 31
        +3
        sir Petrov! Do not put ordinary and normal hard workers on the same board with bribe takers and crumblers !!!
    2. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 19: 08
      12
      Tell the stool with Vasilyeva winked
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 3 February 2016 19: 19
        27
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        Tell the stool with Vasilyeva winked

        Here is who should say: hi drinks
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 19: 24
          +8
          You have a monitor! I slobbed my little when I laughed! Thanks for the comment! laughing drinks
        2. KBR109
          KBR109 3 February 2016 20: 03
          +6
          Then it’s not Stool with Vasilyeva, but Zubkov and S. Medvedeva, respectively.
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      1. dorz
        dorz 3 February 2016 19: 13
        +5
        Rogozin: corruption in the defense industry - conniving to the enemies of the country

        this is called treason to the motherland - confiscation of property - prison.
    4. shura7782
      shura7782 3 February 2016 20: 54
      +5
      No shooting and no prisons. There are other ways to fight. And because theft and corruption is so monstrous that there are not enough prisons for this category of criminals. Among them, there are indeed many highly skilled workers of high rank. Complete confiscation and eternal settlement with my whole family in remote, inaccessible areas, for land development, raising infrastructure, etc. The laws are written by the same gang and therefore they are liberal and not the same for everyone.
    5. Arbogast
      Arbogast 3 February 2016 22: 03
      +2
      Rogozin: corruption in the defense industry - indulging enemies of the country
      Isn't this the same Rogozkin who "Gave the Tooth" laughing
      Deputy Prime Minister for Defense Dmitry Rogozin promised that the Russian cosmodrome "Vostochny" will be completed by 2015 year, promising in a different scenario to donate a tooth.
      Rogozin said that in May he plans to visit the construction site of the Vostochny cosmodrome, recalling that President-elect Vladimir Putin intends to visit the same site soon. “We will just be able to report to him on the progress of the work. complexes "Fregat" and heavier loads. We will make a cosmodrome by 2015, I give a grudge, "Rogosi said.In an interview with the Vesti Nedeli program, Brilev's interlocutor assured him.
      1. Asadullah
        Asadullah 3 February 2016 23: 18
        +2
        Isn't this the same Rogozkin who "Gave the Tooth"


        Let's start with the fact that a lot has changed since then. The second moment, Rogozin is launched like a fighting rooster to the geese, it will not do any harm, but there will be noise. In his own characterization, Rogozin, as an independent figure, did nothing in his entire history of existence in politics, he just was on his board. Well, let it be. You need someone to fill in the pauses. During intermission.
  2. Good cat
    Good cat 3 February 2016 18: 53
    +5
    More political will and everything will work out!
    1. alexander 2
      alexander 2 4 February 2016 00: 06
      +2
      After the Korean War, when 2 Koreas formed, the South Korean president transplanted all his friends to defeat corruption. And corruption has stopped (Almost). Our president needs to do the same.
  3. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 3 February 2016 18: 53
    +8
    "... no completely exotic measures ..."
    This "exotic" of the USSR and half of the world saved, at one time ... hi
  4. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 3 February 2016 18: 54
    15
    And who has thrown this corruption in the industry entrusted to "Dmitry Olegovich"?
    Who are these unknown villains on whom there is no council?
    Who is this "shield thinning" for us, where and how? All this can be specifically and clearly learned from the speech of the head of the defense industry complex. As Rozogin was a "international journalist, the level of a correspondent for the newspaper" Komsomolskaya Pravda ", he remained so. It is surprising that under his leadership, in general, something else is being produced and published.
    Well, the ways of dealing with "distortions" are certainly touching - it is necessary to punish, but not quite, a little and not all. In general, good people steal, you won't get anything for it, we will decide everything.
  5. Koshak
    Koshak 3 February 2016 18: 54
    +6
    I would like more specifics. And if everything is "under the head" - then why are "so many beetles" 7
  6. vfqjh
    vfqjh 3 February 2016 19: 00
    10
    We plan that this year we will reach approximately 96% of the execution of the state defense order -
    and imagine what is 4%? Klundike!
  7. Lanista
    Lanista 3 February 2016 19: 02
    +2
    One of the truly respectable People.
    1. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 3 February 2016 19: 25
      +4
      Perhaps that is why he has a son, director of a defense plant? wink
      1. midivan
        midivan 3 February 2016 20: 43
        +3
        Quote: PHANTOM-AS
        Perhaps that is why he has a son, director of a defense plant? wink

        and you would probably be the director of a strange son in his place? Naturally, there will be more influence, trust and control with a stranger’s son, I’ll say that I’d put my honest hand in my heart bully
      2. Lanista
        Lanista 3 February 2016 22: 41
        +2
        Perhaps that is why he has a son, director of a defense plant?

        Following your logic, only those whose sons are homeless and alcoholics are worthy of real respect.
      3. alexander 2
        alexander 2 4 February 2016 00: 15
        0
        Are you offended that he didn’t put your son?
        1. asiat_61
          asiat_61 4 February 2016 03: 39
          +4
          The funny thing is, if a person gets into power (get closer to the feeding trough), relatives have hidden talents at once. Until a momentous moment, roughly speaking: the last x ... they’ve eaten up salt, and whoop such talents. Can it still be shot a little?
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    3. owl
      owl 3 February 2016 19: 34
      0
      Quote: Lanista
      One of the truly respectable People.

      I'm not against! everything is said to be relative in this world smile Someone respects Yeltsin, someone puts monuments to Nazi accomplices and names the streets in honor of them, well, someone respects Rogozin!
    4. Balferov
      Balferov 3 February 2016 20: 16
      0
      Quote: Lanista
      One of the truly respectable People.

      Yes, of course, but what about one of those who are closest to the feeding trough!
      honor and respect ...
      1. alexander 2
        alexander 2 4 February 2016 00: 18
        +4
        There will always be someone at the feeder, Such is its property. But he is better than the liberals from the 90s.
    5. VEKT
      VEKT 4 February 2016 09: 53
      0
      Worthy scribbler on Twitter, what punishment did he receive for the mess on the construction of the East, which he oversaw?
  8. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 19: 02
    +5
    Rogozin spoke again with slogans? ... I like him for his sarcasm and sense of humor on Twitter. Specifically, did he prove by something that he was a Politician and Patriot of the Motherland (exactly, with a capital letter)?
  9. BABAY22
    BABAY22 3 February 2016 19: 03
    +8
    To shoot, not to shoot - no absolutely exotic measures are needed here.

    It is better to borrow the experience of our eastern "friends" - Saudi Arabia.
    10 years in prison + 1000 lashes. And everything is public.
    Then, there will be much less people wishing to confuse their wool with the sovereign.
  10. GRAY
    GRAY 3 February 2016 19: 07
    +8
    Forest plantations planted after 1953 have long grown from a full-fledged forest into an impassable windbreak.
    It’s time, already, to begin recruiting lumberjacks!
  11. kapitan92
    kapitan92 3 February 2016 19: 07
    +7
    Article "checkpoint"! I would call it verbal diarrhea. There is no specifics and will not be-afraid for the position and place of work.
    Fish always rots from the head, not from the tail!
    1. owl
      owl 3 February 2016 19: 17
      +5
      And what to expect from a person who publicly promised something smile but never gave up! Although I wouldn’t ask a lot from him, still a person is not professional! More questions to those who posed his buzz!
    2. asiat_61
      asiat_61 4 February 2016 03: 42
      +1
      Well this is an excuse for the tail.
  12. drags33
    drags33 3 February 2016 19: 08
    20
    ..."Defense Corruption - Indulging the Enemies of the Country". If only someone with a steel voice would bring this phrase to Smerdyukov! Well, then - with all that it implies ...
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 19: 14
      +6
      I will answer with a joke. 1917 The young woman wakes up in the morning - shooting, screaming, stomping outside the window ... asks the servant to go find out what is the matter. The servant comes running and says:
      - Young lady, the revolution has happened!
      “And what do revolutionaries want?”
      “They want the rich not to be!”
      “Strange, my grandfather was also a revolutionary, so he wanted the poor!” smile
      1. PHANTOM-AS
        PHANTOM-AS 3 February 2016 20: 26
        +6
        there is a strong impression that the fight against corruption and embezzlement is a fairy tale for the population, these "gentlemen" are already accustomed to simply taking what they take, with their privatized long ago, together with the government, budgets, industry, mineral resources, but for us they shout: we must fight , just about to begin, bear with the Imperials.
        Meanwhile, corruption has been gaining momentum all 25 years and soon I think in the speeches of the leaders, for example, inflation will sound 10%, the raccoon has grown by 220%, and corruption has been stabilized at a growth rate of 2% per year.
        Applause. Curtain.
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  13. Flat5160
    Flat5160 3 February 2016 19: 11
    +3
    I believe that not indulgence but betrayal, and judge by these articles. In my opinion, Rogozin softened his tone, which was not like him, but on the whole he was right.
  14. pioner
    pioner 3 February 2016 19: 13
    +4
    And who prevented the development of machine tools?
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    2. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 19: 21
      +5
      Quote: pioner
      And who prevented the development of machine tools?

      Why develop something if you can sell oil and gas? What developed in addition to geological exploration of deposits of the mentioned minerals? laughing
      1. pioner
        pioner 3 February 2016 21: 18
        +4
        in 25 years they discovered one field near Astrakhan, everything else that works now under the USSR.
    3. Flat5160
      Flat5160 3 February 2016 20: 15
      +5
      And what is not clear who? Gref recently clearly said that we are losers. But he was at the time when it was necessary to begin to do this, in the economic bloc of the government. It was he and his accomplices that the liberals did not give.
  15. aba
    aba 3 February 2016 19: 15
    +2
    Well, why then the coulters are not punished, but simply transplanted from chair to chair ?!
  16. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 3 February 2016 19: 17
    0
    Or, as in Iran, bribes are legalized, but the theft of at least 1 real-under execution So what? Maybe somehow without extremes?
  17. GRAY
    GRAY 3 February 2016 19: 19
    +6
    In fact, this cannot be done at a time. This billion dollars is simply a clean workshop in itself in order to produce this kind of equipment. However, now we have sharply increased ...

    What increased?
    Then there is a manual on the topic "How you can competently leave the bazaar."
    - Well _op we have with microelectronics and machine tools - say so. No, bljad, he is talking about the 18th year.
    I don’t know about machine tool building, but there was microelectronics - now I don’t (the invisible hand of the market worked out).
    Mr. Rogozin wanted something for me to slap a good crack.
    1. Balferov
      Balferov 3 February 2016 20: 12
      0
      Quote: GRAY
      Mr. Rogozin wanted something for me to slap a good crack.

      yeah, and add from the legs ...
      and then launch from a trampoline to a low orbit
      1. SklochPensioner
        SklochPensioner 4 February 2016 05: 47
        +1
        Cool fighters! By the way, Rogozin shoots well ... How about a duel?
        And what a true thought: we will fan it and microelectronics will appear! laughing
  18. Fat
    Fat 3 February 2016 19: 20
    +5
    I respect Dmitry Rogozin, he knows how to say. I revealed quite a lot of interesting details. And the rest: "The water is wet. The sky is blue. Life is shit." Well, thanks for at least "sounded". hi
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 19: 30
      +5
      I agree, only except for his la-la, the matter does not go further. Thoughts seem to be in the right vector, I just want to continue asking "WHAT?"
      1. alexander 2
        alexander 2 4 February 2016 00: 27
        +3
        Putin reminds me of early Brezhnev in domestic politics. Words, like, are correct, but not as unrelated to deeds.
        1. SklochPensioner
          SklochPensioner 4 February 2016 05: 51
          -2
          Quote: Alexander 2
          Putin reminds me of early Brezhnev in domestic politics


          Yes, damn it, again we were unlucky with the king ... Toli case Alexander 2!

          Do not like it - do not eat! smile
          1. alexander 2
            alexander 2 9 February 2016 01: 31
            0
            "Alexander 2" came out by accident. That is my name, so I wrote "alexander". But it turned out that this name is taken, slapped "1" (I usually always substitute numbers if it is busy), and it is busy; slapped "2", registered and only then realized that it was too much like a king. I didn't change anything, in principle, what's the difference what the name is, because people are judged not by their name, but by their judgments and thoughts.
    2. Balferov
      Balferov 3 February 2016 20: 04
      +4
      Quote: Thick
      I respect Dmitry Rogozin, he knows how to say. I revealed quite a lot of interesting details. For the rest: "The water is wet. The sky is blue.

      Well, yes, oh, about the bol .. oh, the balabol is still the one, then about trampolines, then about corruption ... pi .. um, oh, that is tryndit! ..
      listen sick ... and is this power like that? Well, then they deserve such
      and some still respect those, oh, begging ...
      that's why we live
      1. Fat
        Fat 3 February 2016 20: 27
        +1
        Quote: Balferov
        , listen sick ... and is this power? Well, then they deserve such
        and some still respect those, oh, begging ...
        that's why we live

        Rogozin has such a job - n ... t - a journalist. And at least some kind of "counterbalance" to McCain and Co. Only it is necessary to work with the language more often and on business. It seems to be doing it for now - the master. Not recognizing or respecting skill is everyone's own business. yes
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 3 February 2016 19: 24
    +6
    Well, corruption is necessary?
    I didn’t see, didn’t I hear?
    Well, what kind of permanent circus in this government, whether there are fools sitting around and not seeing. The official on the salary and after his resignation should be like a mouse naked, and suddenly his house was drawn for $ 20 mil and somehow, the wind blew ?
    According to all the rules, punishments for embezzlement should be intensified in the state, and on the contrary we are left under house arrest in a 12-room apartment as Vasilyeva. And then in an indignant voice ...
    Well, corruption is necessary?
    I didn’t see, didn’t I hear?
  20. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 3 February 2016 19: 27
    +1
    The only thing that interested in the article was the convocation of the ms21 airplane, and all the rest, as a matter of fact, are general words and slogans.
  21. armata37
    armata37 3 February 2016 19: 33
    +4
    The two Achilles heels that we have are microelectronics and machine tools. Well, it was completely absent, did not exist in the country as a whole.


    Please load orders with us from IZTS (Ivanovo Heavy Engineering Plant) in the city of Ivanovo. Everyone will be only happy! But close supermarkets and shopping centers, re-profile them into sports schools, into new buildings for educational institutions, any other industries that are capable of being in such buildings, etc. Everyone will be happy for how much you can sell it.
  22. erased
    erased 3 February 2016 19: 37
    +4
    We sent money there, paid them before this Maidan - neither money, nor GTA!

    Have you filed a lawsuit against these "partners"? And the sanctions were introduced? Have you tied gas supplies to the payment of all debts, including those for business? If not, what are you waiting for? While Chubais is whistling on the mountain with a noose around his neck?
    According to embezzlement. Everything is simple here.
    1. Laws should work!
    2. Laws must work!
    3. Laws must work!
    And thieves a fine in the amount of stolen plus to the returned! Weak?
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 19: 58
      -1
      And no one is responsible for anything ....
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    3. Balferov
      Balferov 3 February 2016 20: 09
      +2
      Quote: erased
      According to embezzlement. Everything is simple here.
      1. Laws should work!
      2. Laws must work!
      3. Laws must work!

      This does not suit us! After all, we have Rogozin!
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  24. Balferov
    Balferov 3 February 2016 20: 01
    -4
    attlichna, the chief corrupt official talks about corruption ...
  25. hartlend
    hartlend 3 February 2016 20: 02
    -1
    It is time to introduce sole control of the country, guardsmen and commissioners with mandates and Mausers are also welcome. It is time to bring the leaders of the 90s and 2000s from the list of liberal shit-makers to the open water, who for their handouts from the West have ruined everything that is possible. Call their activities by their own names and bring to justice.
    1. owl
      owl 3 February 2016 20: 17
      +4
      Quote: hartlend
      It is time to introduce sole control of the country, the guardsmen

      Now is not the time stop we’ll carry out privatization and then we’ll certainly introduce something laughing
  26. fa2998
    fa2998 3 February 2016 20: 02
    +4
    We are masters of slogans! So if Mr. Taburetkin with the company was stealing into the Moscow region, it means treason to the Motherland, and went to taiga. But in fact, slogans and sentences do not fit together! laughing request hi
    1. SklochPensioner
      SklochPensioner 4 February 2016 06: 07
      0
      Quote: fa2998
      Mr. Taburetkin with the company stole in MO-


      And what about Ragozin? By the way, the mister you mentioned is not a deeply public person, I would even say "shy". Alchen, damn it! smile
      Rogozin’s publicity is not at all annoying. If only I didn’t drink! laughing
  27. Sergey333
    Sergey333 3 February 2016 20: 15
    +3
    How then to classify corruption in the government, where people like Rogozin turn a blind eye to this and do absolutely nothing to combat this evil. Only populist statements and not a single truly finished case.
    1. SklochPensioner
      SklochPensioner 4 February 2016 06: 09
      -1
      Quote: Sergey333
      absolutely do nothing to combat this evil


      Your untruth! am

      Just don’t think that I am Rogozin’s son! laughing
  28. old pioneer
    old pioneer 3 February 2016 20: 23
    +1
    For the targeted use of the allocated funds in the defense industry, it is not the Accounts Chamber, but the BATTLES that will control, at least once a year, the random number generator will determine the date.
  29. grawizapa
    grawizapa 3 February 2016 20: 32
    0
    what kind of PARTNERS are they ...
  30. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 3 February 2016 20: 36
    +6
    Article "+",
    but what is amusing: no one mentioned Stalin and the 58th article; even strange.
    So, I, not a Stalinophile, I think that it would be time for him to rise now, for six months or a year!
    Quote: rov81
    Corruption in any field is treason to the Motherland! For this you need to be severely punished!

    "+++" !! And theft in the defense industry should be punished without many years of investigation! Ideally - to the wall tries ...
    And in article 275 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, this theft is classified as treason. And not until 20 years, but for life, without options,
    and then only until the death penalty is again introduced. After all, these stsuki intend to dump the foreign money on the stolen money when they begin to bomb their homeland.
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 3 February 2016 20: 58
      +3
      I, too, am not a supporter of tough measures, but I believe that, for example, causing any damage to the state’s defense capability (by anyone) should be classified as sabotage actions, leading to undermining the foundation of the state itself, and, as consequence punishable by execution. Because here it is not about the theft of the wallet, but about the life of millions of citizens of our country who find themselves in a vulnerable state from the point of view of the defense capability of the state.
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  32. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 3 February 2016 21: 08
    +9
    Quote: pioner
    And who prevented the development of machine tools?

    Machine tool construction, colleagues, we must not develop, but start from scratch!
    And it died prematurely in the "era of 4C", remember, at the beginning of perestroika?
    "Independence, self-financing, self-sufficiency" and something else there on the "C".
    When the State Planning Commission was destroyed overnight, no one even remembered that machine tools, presses and other
    "goods of group A" of the enterprise did not buy with their own money, with the exception of inexpensive machines and in small quantities. Technical re-equipment of plants as planned; everything is more or less complex, piece, unique - through the State Planning Commission and the Gossnab. And for what "self-sufficiency" something could be bought by factories whose collectives have been without wages for six months? Now machines are not needed.
    The machine tool industry twitched for two years on a barter, and rained down. The tool industry is a little longer - and there too ... Units of surviving industries (out of many hundreds of factories!) Will not make the weather.
    I’ve been in machine tools for twenty years, then another 16 are already just in machining: before my eyes everything was ...
    And this cannot be compensated for by any nano-successes, believe me. The most valuable thing in the machine is not the CNC system, not the drives, but precisely the machined iron! And precisely it can be processed only on machines: a vicious circle.
    To create machine tools at the level of the USSR - 40 years, i.e. 2 generations of pretty crazy enthusiasts.
    1. sergeysergey69
      sergeysergey69 4 February 2016 03: 26
      0
      and what - tomorrow Chubais will be redirected to machine tool building and everything will be fine - Nano has developed - before that, Unified Electric Grids - the guy needs to grow further, although he is elderly - but he is quite a healthy, irreplaceable manager!
    2. SklochPensioner
      SklochPensioner 4 February 2016 06: 19
      0
      Quote: tehnokrat
      To create machine tools at the level of the USSR - 40 years, i.e. 2 generations of pretty crazy enthusiasts.


      It’s sad ... I hope they’re already looking for them in the asylum smile
      "It's not so gloomy up close ..." wink
  33. TұrKBөrӨ
    TұrKBөrӨ 3 February 2016 21: 09
    0
    put +, and I will give you 1000 to the account.
  34. DPN
    DPN 3 February 2016 21: 14
    +1
    In general, he must spend the night at Vostochny Cosmodrome, and demand confiscation and not just landing, then there will be no corruption.
  35. vell.65
    vell.65 3 February 2016 21: 26
    +1
    Yes, very simple_10 years without the right of correspondence, some may think. am
  36. Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 3 February 2016 22: 06
    +2
    Would you, Mr. Rogozin, advise our guarantor to transplant the entire liberal gang. Or is it scary?
  37. sergey4920
    sergey4920 3 February 2016 22: 07
    0
    Quote: rov81
    Rogozin: corruption in the defense industry - conniving to the enemies of the country
  38. Million
    Million 3 February 2016 22: 13
    +3
    Corruption in our country is impregnated with all layers of society and power. In general, fish rots
  39. iouris
    iouris 3 February 2016 23: 24
    -2
    We agree on the concepts.
    "Connivance" is not a crime. This means treason, sabotage, espionage.
    Corruption is also an incomprehensible word. A corrupt person is a thief.
    And if everyone is planted, with whom to work?
  40. VOROBEICHIK
    VOROBEICHIK 4 February 2016 00: 14
    +1
    Again, it was too late to get to the computer. What I want to say, and I used to say to all the Russian homies - you all snickered at GDP. Now you are all put on reality, but this is a long process - maybe a year, maybe six months. More or less objective comments on HE - from Israeli former fellow citizens of the USSR. Infa, true to a large%, the same from them. What he himself faced in Russia - kickbacks of 10% of the contract. Steal from. It was, it is, it will be! Lovers of truth - read the chronicles of the times of Peter 1. and especially the times of Katya 2 (by the bounties of the Empress). Great is Russia - they cannot plunder for so many centuries. It’s scary to imagine what would have happened if it hadn’t been stolen ...
  41. sergeysergey69
    sergeysergey69 4 February 2016 03: 22
    0
    I think Rogozin himself went nuts when he ran into Russian realities - hard - where to start - how to break the stereotype of the 90s? And where to put people - you can’t bring it from Mars or the Moon - I don’t know how it will end - God forbid everything will be fine - but all legs grow from the 90s, including the top leadership - there are simply no sinners by definition!
  42. Buchki
    Buchki 4 February 2016 03: 24
    0
    Rogozin gives the impression of a very truthful person with powerful patriotic charisma. The article honestly says about the steps of our military and political leadership on the development of the military-industrial complex and the objective reasons preventing this from happening as soon as possible. I didn’t understand only the position of the readers who overshadowed the article: ((
  43. sergeysergey69
    sergeysergey69 4 February 2016 03: 27
    0
    It is necessary to dismiss Rogozin and put Chubais!
    1. Platonich
      Platonich 4 February 2016 05: 08
      0
      Add Taburetkin with his poetess !!!
  44. asiat_61
    asiat_61 4 February 2016 04: 01
    -1
    I read about Sukhoi duperjack, I almost described myself out of laughter. Our only fizyulyazh. The idea of ​​building a civilian plane in a military design bureau? Tupolev, Ilyushin, Yakovlev’s design bureau survived somehow. And here is Sukhoi got such money? That's where they sawed, and sometimes apparently they didn’t take sawn. So this is talk, or excuse.
  45. Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 February 2016 05: 30
    +1
    I have repeatedly written that corruption should be punished as an attempt on national security - treason. With all the consequences, and not just the dismissal from work. It is necessary to create such an environment around this phenomenon that it is caught and fired, not only that they presented another place of work, but that they shy away from it like from a plague. And the one who gave him work would automatically lose his job too. Moreover, the higher the position of a corrupt official, the shorter the punishment. If an ordinary traffic cop or teacher or doctor can be kicked out of work with a good fine without jail, then people with large posts and power should lose everything, without any prospects for the future, to wind a serious term. It is this, the prospect of losing overnight all that has been gained over the years, without any hope of the future, that will possibly stop these ghouls.
    1. shura7782
      shura7782 4 February 2016 10: 24
      0
      The fact is that officials, deputies, etc. who have power and cash flows do not have any obligations to the people. Promises and words alone. People grumble, but they do not care. An example of Serdyukov with Vasilyeva. Fell off and order. In fact, they did not give a damn to each of us. Now they are taking those who have not shared or crossed the road to another huckster. We have a big hole in saving. The state is economically at war for survival. Therefore, the demand from them should be according to the laws of wartime. Blood, as some want, is not necessary. From an economic point of view is not profitable. But collective (family responsibility) will work. Step to the side and went to the tundra with his wife, children, parents, brothers and sisters, etc. In short, complete confiscation and exile.
  46. 23424636
    23424636 5 February 2016 14: 48
    0
    Thanks to Rogozin for an interesting article. I always read information about him and see in him the future leader of the country in him the Russian spirit, and may God help him in the cause of the revival of Russia.