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Military aspects of the Russian operation in Syria

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Military aspects of the Russian operation in Syria



Russian military intervention in Syria represents a significant departure from the previous practice of using military force in the post-Cold War period, because it is not limited to more Russian territory or the near abroad and, along with the recent successful operation in Crimea, forces Western experts to rethink Russia's military capabilities. Despite the fact that during the Crimean operation, the Russian military showed a number of examples of qualitative growth, mainly elite ground and coastal forces, as well as special operations forces were involved in its conduct. In the case of Syria, the emphasis is on an air campaign implemented with the involvement of general-purpose forces, as well as a number of new technical solutions and weapon systems.

A number of experts were quick to call it “the first Russian war in the American style”, as Russia conducts military operations outside its territorial limits, relying mainly on air power and long-range precision weapon with minimal risk to their troops and forces. At the same time, the narrative of Western analysts - in form or in meaning - boils down to comparing the actions of the Russian military in the current Syrian campaign with their actions in the 2008 conflict in South Ossetia or the capabilities of Russians and Americans. Compared to the five-day 2008 war of the year, the actions of the Russian contingent in Syria indicate a significant increase in military capabilities, refuting the opinion of many Western experts that Russia is allegedly not capable of conducting expeditionary actions far from its borders. Nevertheless, a number of Western experts point to the existence of a significant gap in the capabilities of Russia and the United States, or they question the effectiveness of the air strikes of the Russian Aerospace Forces and their ability to conduct prolonged military operations of such high intensity.

QUALITY SHIFT


In contrast to the 2008 conflict in South Ossetia, during which the Russian Air Force could not achieve air superiority or provide proper aviation support to the Ground Forces, the air campaign of the Russian air forces in Syria showed a qualitative shift that has taken place over the past seven years. Russia has shown a clear increase in command and communications capabilities by organizing an offensive air operation with an intensity of up to 90 sorties per day by aircraft and helicopters of various types of aviation - army, front-line and long-range - operating from airfields in Syria and Russia.

According to a senior researcher at the Center for Naval Analysis (CNA), Dmitry Gorenburg, “the Russian military has achieved impressive results in increasing the operational voltage ratio and improving the interaction between different types of armed forces. They also significantly increased their ability to conduct expeditionary actions and demonstrated the ability to strike with high-precision weapons when the carriers are out of reach of enemy countermeasures. ” Compared with the five-day 2008 war of the year, in which Russian troops in some cases suffered losses from the fire of their own means of destruction, the current level of coordination of their actions is impressive. As well as can not fail to impress and the degree of consistency of the Russian VKS with the ground forces represented by the Syrian army, the Iranian contingent and the Hezbollah (militarized Lebanese pro-Iranian Shiite organization) troops have not recorded a single case of loss of troops from the strikes of their aircraft.

Many Western analysts are surprised at the high intensity of flights of the very modest Russian aviation group in Syria - according to various estimates, this is about 45 sorties per day in October, 60 - at the peak. Dave Majumdar, a military analyst at the National Interest magazine, said that "the overwhelming majority of US military officials predicted a significantly lower intensity of Russian aviation flights - no more than 20 sorties into knocks." The New York Times newspaper notes that Russian planes “at least for the time being are delivering almost as many attacks on insurgents opposing the forces of President Bashar Assad every day as the American coalition fighting against the Islamic State terrorist organization in Russia inflicts on throughout the last year. ” It should be borne in mind that a high coefficient of operational voltage is provided, including the proximity of the Russian air base in Syria to the targets of strikes, while American aircraft often have to work at a great distance from their aircraft carriers.

In addition, the intensity of flights somewhat decreased after October, probably due to the inability to ensure fast preparation for repeated combat missions over a long period of time or because the rebel forces were able to adapt to air strikes by strengthening their camouflage measures. Nevertheless, Garrett Campbell, a researcher at the Brookings Institute, argues that "almost none of our (all-American. - Appro. Trans.) NATO allies can compete with Russia in terms of its achievements in the air. Such is the disappointing lesson of both NATO air campaigns in Kosovo and Libya. ” He is echoed by Gorenburg, who also notes that the high intensity of flights is particularly impressive, "taking into account the whole series of flight accidents that have occurred since the beginning of 2015, which, according to many experts, was due to the increased exploitation of the aging fleet of Russian aviation technology."

Russia also used intervention in the Syrian events to test and demonstrate the capabilities of new weapons systems in real combat conditions. To attack the rebels, Russia used a whole range of high-precision weapons, including KAB-500С adjustable air bombs with inertial-satellite (using GLONASS signals) guidance system and X-25ML air-to-surface guided missiles with a laser guidance system. Moreover, only about 20% of strikes is performed using high-precision weapons, “cast-iron”, free-falling, according to Western terminology, aerial bombs also demonstrated their effectiveness and accuracy when applied to most targets.

MOSCOW LONG HAND



Both sides of the Syrian conflict are mainly fighting with the use of old Soviet weapons and military equipment. Reuters Photos

Perhaps the most noticeable moment of the operation was the group launch of 26 Caliber-NK cruise missiles from the ships of the Russian Caspian flotillalocated more than 900 miles from the targets hit. Analyst at the Center for Naval Analysis (CNA) Michael Kofman notes that “it is surprisingly effective weapon” and that “in the field of rocket technology, Russia has not only reached parity with the West, but has surpassed it in some ways”. Russia also carried out a group launch of Caliber-PL cruise missiles from the Rostov-on-Don diesel-electric submarine, recently included in the Navy’s combat structure. Moreover, on November 16, Russia launched its long-range aviation: that day, five Tu-160, six Tu-95MS and 14 Tu-22M3, accompanied by Su-27SM fighters, fired 34 air-based cruise missiles and dropped a large number of unguided air bombs. If until that day only front-line aircraft — fighters and bombers operating from an airfield in Syria — participated in the air offensive operation, then this strike by long-range aircraft showed that Russian strategic bombers are still able to deliver time-and-place-based strikes with using cruise missiles X-555 and X-101. If we bear in mind that the attacks carried out on targets in Syria by sea and air-based cruise missiles from warships and long-range bombers could well have been carried out by front-line forces from Khmeimim airfield, it becomes clear that by doing this Russia sent its rivals and allies a certain message testifying to its ability to project power abroad.

As retired US Air Force General David A. Dapule notes, “in fact, Russia is using its intervention in Syria to develop weapons systems in a landfill.” Kofman also notes that this demonstration of power is also important because "long-range aviation, while remaining the traditional component of the Moscow nuclear triad, is becoming a practical tool for non-nuclear deterrence, allowing it to reach the US or its NATO allies over long distances." And finally, it is impossible not to mention the search and rescue operation to evacuate the crew of the Russian bomber Su-24, shot down by the Turkish F-16 fighter, which was an obvious step forward compared to the practical absence of the forces and resources dedicated to this task. Ossetia.

It is possible that the most unexpected element of the Russian military operation in Syria for the West was the capabilities of the forces and means of material support of the Russian expeditionary force. With the involvement of sea and air transport, Russia deployed an interspecific expeditionary group of about 3,5 thousand people at the theater, including a mixed air force, whose combat strength includes 50 airplanes and helicopters, ground and coastal forces, a group of forces and air defense assets (maritime or mobile). - ground-based), armored combat vehicles, artillery systems, electronic intelligence and countermeasures, units of the intelligence of the mother no logistics, as well as a number of other units of combat and logistic support. Lieutenant-General Ben Hodges, commander of US forces in Europe, said in this connection: "What continues to amaze me is their ability to quickly move significant forces and assets quickly and over long distances." ". Former US Department of Defense Intelligence Agency analyst Jeffrey White notes: "They brought the entire kit," and "for me, this is evidence of their ability to deploy an expeditionary force of quite decent composition." Despite the fact that the Russian Navy had to acquire and transfer several Turkish bulk carriers under its flag in order to provide an opportunity to build up a group of forces and means, the rapid deployment of the Russian military contingent of troops in Syria without any serious punctures impressed and surprised many Western analysts. "Until September, most analysts (and I am not an exception) argued that Russia is not capable of conducting military operations far from its borders, because its armed forces lack the forces and means that allow large-scale military transport to remote theaters of operations," concluded Gorenburg.

QUESTIONS REMAIN


Despite a number of positive aspects noted above, some Western analysts have noted well-known shortcomings or questioned Russia's capabilities. As noted by Douglas Barry, a senior researcher at the London-based International Institute for Strategic Studies (Institute for International Strategic Studies), although Russia demonstrated the capabilities of its new high-precision weapons, “the range of high-precision aviation weapons, intelligence and target designation systems that Russian videocommunications have today the one that is available to similar types of armed forces in the West. " The British Broadcasting Corporation BBC also notes that “Russian Su-25 and Su-24 use guided bombs and missiles with semi-active laser and electron-optical guidance systems, and also have a target targeting system (backlight) as part of the on-board equipment complex. and unlike Western planes, they do not carry suspended containers with an integrated reconnaissance and target designation system. Such containers allow the crews of Western aircraft to independently detect targets and direct aviation weapons at them. ”

In addition, although Russia is using unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) in Syria, Barry argues that the Russians “have not yet reached the level of development of unmanned aerial reconnaissance systems that the US and its allies in Afghanistan are demonstrating. As well as they do not possess the necessary level of integration of the airborne and ground-based technical complexes. ” UAVs have become an integral part of the American system of intelligence support for the actions of troops (forces) and complement the shock capabilities of manned platforms for the use of high-precision aviation weapons. The ability of the UAV to operate in the zone of the enemy’s air defense, without endangering the pilot’s life, and carrying out almost continuous observation of the areas in which the targets are located, constitutes a critical competence, especially when fighting insurgents or conducting special operations. Despite the use of modern Su-34 multifunctional fighter-bombers, the main burden of the combat operation of the Russian VKS in Syria fell on the previous generation machines, although upgraded, Su-24 bombers and Su-25 attack aircraft, which remain the basis of front-line aviation in Russia. In addition, Russian army aviation in Syria relied on the spent Mi-XNUMPPN and Mi-24AMTSH vehicles, which may indicate an insufficient level of development in the troops of the new Mi-8Н helicopters (although, according to a number of sources, the Mi-28Н were deployed in Syria) and Ka-28.

Thus, the military intervention of Russia in Syria demonstrates the significant progress of the Russian Armed Forces since the end of the Russian-Georgian war of the 2008 year. Nevertheless, the question remains how representative the Russian expeditionary grouping in Syria is in relation to all the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. With a relatively small scale of actions in the Crimea and Syria, Russia can afford to send the most equipped and trained troops to solve such problems; however, it is unlikely that most of the formations and units of the Aerospace Forces and the Ground Forces of Russia are equipped and trained equally adequately. Moreover, many of the most important tasks accomplished during the five-day 2008 war of the year, such as suppressing an enemy's advanced air defense, cannot be re-worked against an unconventional and relatively weakly armed enemy, such as rebel troops in Syria. Finally, the question of the effectiveness of the strikes inflicted by the Russian Aerospace Forces remains the subject of discussion, although outwardly they testify to their increased capabilities. As follows from the experience of the United States, relying on its air power during a whole series of military campaigns, air strikes are often insufficient for an adequate military-political solution to the conflict. As a result, Russia may be able to prevent the fall of Bashar Assad’s regime and, quite likely, to win back part of the territory with its modest expeditionary force, but achieving more ambitious goals will require it to drastically increase its - or Iranian - military presence in Syria.

If we compare the Russian operation in Syria with the 2008 conflict of the year, there is obvious progress, but if we compare the capabilities of the Russian military with today's capabilities of the Americans, the Russians are still far from parity with the Americans. Many of the new weapons systems that Russia is demonstrating in Syria, such as sea-based long-range cruise missiles, high-precision aviation weapons, the GLONASS / GPS satellite navigation system, and the US Armed Forces have very effectively used a quarter of a century ago during Operation Desert Storm in Kuwait and Iraq, as well as in subsequent conflicts. It turns out that Russian military intervention in Syria is in many ways reminiscent of the capabilities of the American 1990 military machine; at the same time, however, few European members of NATO can do the same that Russia is doing in Syria. If until recently, only the United States was the only country in the world that could independently carry out a modern military operation coordinated in place, time and composition of participants at a great distance from its borders, now Russia has become the second member of this exclusive club. And if before many analysts were sticking out some who were strong, who were the weak points of the Russian Armed Forces, then the Syrian conflict provided an opportunity to really assess their capabilities at the present stage of development. As Michael Kofman notes, “striking at night with evaluating results in real time using a UAV is for Russia a genuine quality leap, a sort of combination of 1990's capabilities and in part quite modern ones that the military has in the West.” The old aphorism “Russia is never as strong as it looks, nor is it as weak as it may seem” is as relevant today as it was yesterday.
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  1. shooter18
    shooter18 17 January 2016 15: 02 New
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    Long-standing aphorism “Russia is never as strong as it looks, nor is it as weak as it may seem” today is as relevant as yesterday.
    Well said!
    Let's help the Syrians defend themselves! In general, the article is very informative!
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 17 January 2016 15: 05 New
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      Quote: shooter18
      Let's help the Syrians defend themselves !!

      The Syrians should not be helped in defense, but taught to win. It turns out a bit, sort of.
      1. shooter18
        shooter18 17 January 2016 15: 11 New
        -4
        Quote: shooter18
        Let's help the Syrians defend themselves !!
        The Syrians should not be helped in defense, but taught to win. It turns out a bit, sort of.

        Yeah .. but does Syria really don’t want to subordinate its natural and human resources to the global manager ??
        1. Kostyar
          Kostyar 17 January 2016 15: 28 New
          +9
          I agree with almost everything, almost. in fact, the result of a long article is to build up our Sun to the level of Western technology. nonsense. firstly their tomahawks are subsonic, our caliber is supersonic. this is just one example of the lies of Western "analysts" and "experts." the rest is already known. I will not write length like an author. even their specialists cry that our forces of the rap are unattainable for them.

          Duc is their "self-treatment", so they calm the people and themselves, beloved, exceptional, that not all polymers have spilled ....... !!!!!
          1. ty60
            ty60 17 January 2016 17: 57 New
            +1
            And in terms of accuracy, Gauges are cooler than axes. And in terms of application, I don’t know how from air carriers there is no information about the possibility of use, and in addition to sea we have a whole bunch!
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 17 January 2016 22: 16 New
              +2
              Hard in learning ...

              Syria - exercises, battle may not happen
            2. The comment was deleted.
        2. Kasym
          Kasym 17 January 2016 16: 02 New
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          The author writes that the RF Armed Forces have reached the 90s level of the US Armed Forces. But after all, Americans have not been able to show anything new since then. What have they got so new? Precision munitions? But the Russian Air Force with the help of new sighting devices puts old bombs no worse than their high-precision ones. It turns out cheaper, although the Russians and high-precision also showed. But the presence of the S-400 alone shuganul all the Turkish Air Force. Yes, even Americans referred to electronic warfare equipment and the ability to detect their UAVs.
          The author forgot to mention the growth. transport aircraft with AN-124 and rapid deployment of S-400 air defense systems. It turns out that the Russian Federation, unlike the United States, can instantly create a layered air defense system. And thus there is no need to deploy the armada of the Air Force. This significantly affects the cost part (fuel and aircraft resources for flights to control airspace, technical support and personnel; number of aircraft). Especially with the marine component (here you have both air defense and naval strike forces). Efficiency (efficiency), so to speak, is higher, but less aircraft are needed.
          The Americans still praise the work of electronic warfare equipment (satellites are almost blind). Well, about Buratino how much they wrote. You can also note the Russian-Sov. weapons. Even the old DShK in the box every day flicker. Clear intelligence work, and the work of the General Staff and the media with all sorts of "pictures" and reports. NATO members don't work like that. But only the lazy did not write about the "friendly fire" on the part of the amers. So, if you dig in, there are differences. hi
          So there is enough "work" for NATO analysts. wink
          1. cniza
            cniza 17 January 2016 16: 32 New
            +8
            Let me "analyze", look and we should not forget that if they praise it means that something is wrong with us, if they scold and criticize, then we do everything right.
            1. 222222
              222222 17 January 2016 16: 37 New
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              cniza RU Today, 16:32 ↑
              Let me "analyze" ..
              . a little block !!! ..
              ... let them read. and then say ..
              "" "Millions are you. We are darkness and darkness and darkness.
              Try, fight with us!
              Yes, we are Scythians! Yes, Asians - we,
              With slanted and greedy eyes!

              For you - centuries, for us - a single hour.
              We are like obedient slaves
              Holding a shield between two hostile races
              Mongols and Europe!

              Century, century your old horn forged
              And drowned out thunder, avalanches,
              And a wild fairy tale was a failure for you
              And Lisbon, and Messina!

              You looked east for hundreds of years
              Digging and melting our pearls
              And you, mocking, counted only the term,
              When to train cannon vents!

              Here - the time has come. Wings are beating trouble
              And every day resentment multiplies,
              And the day will come - there will be no trace
              From your Paestums, maybe!

              Oh, the old world! Until you perish,
              While you languish with sweet flour,
              Stop, wise as Oedipus,
              Before the Sphinx with an ancient mystery!

              Russia - Sphinx. Rejoicing and mourning
              And bleeding black blood,
              She looks, looks, looks at you.
              And with hatred, and with love! ...

              Yes, to love as much as our blood loves,
              None of you have loved for a long time!
              Forgot you, that in the world there is love,
              Which burns and kills!

              We love everything - and the heat of cold numbers,
              And the gift of divine visions,
              Everything is clear to us - and a sharp Gallic meaning,
              And the gloomy German genius ...

              We remember everything - hell streets of Paris,
              And the Venetian coolness,
              Lemon groves are a distant fragrance,
              And Cologne smoky bulks ...

              We love flesh - and its taste, and color,
              And the stuffy, mortal flesh smell ...
              Guilty if we crack your skeleton
              In the heavy, gentle paws?

              We used to get used to the bridle
              Playing horses zealous,
              Breaking horses with heavy sacra
              And pacify the slaves of the obstinate ...

              Come to us! From the horrors of war
              Come in peace hugs!
              Before it's too late - the old sword in the sheath,
              Comrades! We will become - brothers!

              And if not - we have nothing to lose,
              And we are not above treachery!
              Century, centuries you will be curse
              Sick later offspring!

              We are wide in the wilds and forests
              Before Europe, prigozhey
              Let's part! We will turn to you
              His Asian mug!

              Go all, go to the Urals!
              We clear the place of battle
              Steel machines, where the integral breathes,
              With the Mongolian wild horde!

              But we ourselves are no longer a shield to you,
              From now on, we will not enter the battle ourselves,
              We'll see how the mortal battle is boiling,
              With his narrow eyes.

              We will not move when the ferocious Hun
              In the pockets of corpses will fumble,
              Burn the city, and drive the herd into the church,
              And fry white brothers meat! ...

              For the last time - come to your senses, old world!
              On the fraternal feast of work and peace,
              The last time for a bright fraternal feast
              Cries the barbaric lyre!
              Alexander Block Scythians (1918)
              1. 222222
                222222 17 January 2016 16: 49 New
                +2
                Alexander Blok "Scythians", read by N. Belokhvostikova 1969
              2. hawk
                hawk 17 January 2016 19: 05 New
                +2
                Brilliant always relevant ...
            2. hawk
              hawk 17 January 2016 18: 59 New
              0
              Axiom...
          2. aksakal
            aksakal 17 January 2016 20: 06 New
            +4
            Quote: Kasym
            The author writes that the RF Armed Forces have reached the 90s level of the US Armed Forces. But after all, Americans have not been able to show anything new since then. What have they got so new? Precision munitions?
            - Greetings, Kasym! Have not seen for a long time))). I largely agree with your post.
            The SABJ tried to convey the idea that we are not talking about comparing individual types of weapons, which Russia has at a very decent level, and many are generally beyond competition (the same S-400). We are talking about a comprehensive comparison of groupings of troops. For example, the American subdivision under the "Stryker" is united into a single information network, including the "Stryker" itself, which in this case turns into an information hub for parallel subdivisions, for higher functions and at the same time a command post for its subdivision.
            Information communication and information saturation of such a unit reaches a high level. To represent this, let us recall the same episode with the shooting down of the SU-24. Remember - at first ours shrugged their shoulders in bewilderment and reported that "the SU-24 is missing, the reasons are being investigated." And if the Turks would not have resisted and did not boast to the whole world, "how cool they are here," ours would have found out for a long time what happened to the bomber. Well, not long, but it would be a day for sure ... While we would have carried out rescue aircraft. until the wreckage was found ... And when the information integration of all the actors of military operations is at the level, then the Russians would know about the strike on the bomber in real time, that is, immediately.
            IMHO, the authors of SABZH wanted to point out exactly this when they said that "Russians are still far from parity with the Americans"- that the connectivity of the Russian units among themselves and within the units, the informational connectivity that makes the related units a single whole is not yet at a high enough level. The Russians said something about Constellation, something else, but somehow these The last thing I read about "Constellation" was that the developer failed the task or was on the verge of failure, and even broke the deadline. After that, something was said about the introduction of this novelty.
            I think that this is a rather important aspect in the modern army.
            1. Kasym
              Kasym 18 January 2016 10: 39 New
              +2
              Aksakal, but who is arguing. The Americans have their own chips: information technology, Navy, Air Force (number), space, electronics. But one cannot write in such a dismissive form. If you really look at things, then the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have their own strengths: ground forces and their armored vehicles, air defense, electronic warfare, missile technologies. And according to some parameters, we can say that the NATO troops in the last century remained or there are no analogues.
              At the same time, it is clear that journalists write under "their reader".
              And if you do a deeper analysis. Then ... after the collapse of the USSR, the military-industrial complex sank heavily. Whole businesses disappeared. But at the same time, as many weapons as we produced, in fact, there was nowhere to go - they were distributed to "friends". Poison alone. charges for 20 thousand - well, where so many, five times the planet can be buried. The economic situation forced the military-industrial complex to collapse, but the United States kept it (the military-industrial complex) and, moreover, climbed to the absolute first place. So, my opinion is that the time has come for the US military-industrial complex - there is no point in such a number of aircraft carriers and such global costs for the army. It's time for them to take their heads, otherwise the states will follow the USSR. But so far we see that the military-industrial complex lobby in the United States does not want to surrender. Hence the militant policy of the US government. If they acted competently, they could become the only superpower for a long time. But they bury themselves. hi
        3. yushch
          yushch 17 January 2016 17: 37 New
          +3
          The author draws strange conclusions about parity with the Americans. If we compare military budgets, we can confidently say that parity has not only been achieved, but we have confidently stepped forward.
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        5. hawk
          hawk 17 January 2016 18: 55 New
          0
          They want it, they want it, BUT we won’t give it ...
      2. Lepila
        Lepila 17 January 2016 18: 48 New
        -6
        The fact is that the concept of "Syrians" has remained in history. Now there is an Alawite coalition, which includes Alawites, Christians Druze, Hezbollah, Russians, Iranians. There are so-called "moderate rebels" and a third force, ISIS. Everyone is at war with everyone. In terms of the degree of villainy, the Alawite coalition and the "moderate rebels" are approximately equal, ISIS of course surpasses them in villainy.
        1. Talgat
          Talgat 17 January 2016 19: 40 New
          +5
          Quote: Lepila
          According to the degree of villainy, the Alawite coalition and


          Loves the West and others like them "stick labels"

          And who are the judges? Who will appreciate the degree of "villainy". With the dominance of Western media, the Bloombergs and Reuters, etc., created an amazing myth - "universal human values", etc.
          Americans now turn out to be "forces of good" - and we are all "evil"

          In fact, geopolitics clearly states that each side pursues its own geopolitical goals. And "evil" - good "concepts for us and you are directly opposite

          For me, for example, the Alawites, Iran and Assad are "ours". For the West and Israel, it's clear - "the degree of villainy"
          1. Lepila
            Lepila 17 January 2016 20: 31 New
            -1
            Tell the family of Arkady Katkov, an employee of the Soviet embassy who was killed in Lebanon by Hezbollah, how cute this organization is to your heart ...
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 17 January 2016 15: 15 New
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      Quote: shooter18
      never underestimate Russia!

      Learning gentlemen are good, learning.
    3. Proxima
      Proxima 17 January 2016 15: 18 New
      16
      Impressive intensity on sorties. We have in one day almost as much as the Americans have in a month! Even the Luftwaffe could not boast of such intensity on air sorties.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 17 January 2016 18: 04 New
        +2
        Quote: Proxima
        Even the Luftwaffe could not boast of such intensity on air sorties.


        But ours on "yashki" and on "paw" and "pawns" with "silts" could, and did not call themselves any waffs or backlashes. It's just the Air Force, now we take the higher in the literal sense - VKS.
    4. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 17 January 2016 16: 17 New
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      Quote: shooter18
      In general, the article is very informative!


      Letters again a bit too much. But the tonality is understandable by the Gorenburg campbels, they ask for efficiency to be reduced, so that they wouldn’t look like something like that. The main thing is that America was mighty. Okay, let it be mighty according to the New York Times. Well, don’t beat them meanly, the younger one can intervene too:
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 17 January 2016 16: 34 New
        +1
        Damn, he’s also an expert in guitars belay
        And what does the general write down there?
        All this is like a comedy.
        If you are chubby, someday your own citizens will be dragged, like a lascivious cat castrated, I’m not at all upset ...
        1. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 17 January 2016 17: 54 New
          +3
          They do not lick from anyone and are not afraid of anyone. Are there many such nations in this world? And we are among them, which I am proud of. Let the cries about democracy shove some into the stern.
    5. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 17 January 2016 17: 15 New
      +8
      If the defeat of ISIS would have been followed by the defeat of the Chubais-Medvedev oligarchy, with the Kremlin cleansed of Surkovism, then all the people can ask that V.V. Putin was awarded the honorary titles Hero of the Soviet Union and Hero of Russia.
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 17 January 2016 18: 55 New
        0
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        If the defeat of ISIS would have been followed by the defeat of the Chubais-Medvedev oligarchy, with the Kremlin cleansed of Surkovism, then all the people can ask that V.V. Putin was awarded the honorary titles Hero of the Soviet Union and Hero of Russia.


        Well, yes, figuratively, from everyone according to their abilities and everyone to devour from the belly with a fan ... In about a hundred years we will again sit in the trees in anticipation of a better life.
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 17 January 2016 19: 30 New
          +5
          And now, under Putin’s leadership, we’re going straight to heaven!
          It’s as if Putin alone, and Medvedev and the government alone. It does not and never will be.
          Well, Putin will not let the country collapse from the outside, so Medvedev will shake it from the inside.
          The commander is ALWAYS responsible for the unit entrusted to him! And all that is being done inside the country according to anyone on his conscience.
          1. co-creator
            co-creator 17 January 2016 23: 10 New
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            Quote: Barkhan
            The commander is ALWAYS responsible for the unit entrusted to him! And all that is being done inside the country according to anyone on his conscience.

            You can not compare the commander and minister of defense of the headquarters, it's just stupid.
            1. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 18 January 2016 03: 25 New
              +4
              Quotation: blooded man
              Minister of Defense Headquarters

              laughing
              Yes, I have nothing to add here!
  2. Yars
    Yars 17 January 2016 15: 03 New
    +7
    Never underestimate Russia! Long harness but fast jumping!
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 17 January 2016 15: 42 New
      10
      Quote: YARS
      Harness for a long time but quickly jump!

      There would be a sensible coachman! laughing
      1. Sea Wolf
        Sea Wolf 17 January 2016 19: 38 New
        0
        Intelligent navigator. As we said at the academy, the navigator should be closer to danger, and if he feels that danger exists, then it exists.
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 17 January 2016 16: 15 New
      +4
      Quote: YARS
      Never underestimate Russia! Long harness but fast jumping!

      At the expense of jumping - this is to dill, and we drive fast!
    3. PHANTOM-AS
      PHANTOM-AS 17 January 2016 19: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: YARS
      Harness for a long time but quickly jump!

      it kakly jump, and we rush! yes
      1. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 17 January 2016 19: 36 New
        0
        Sorry, I didn’t notice your comment, I wrote the same thing.
    4. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 17 January 2016 19: 34 New
      0
      Quote: YARS
      Never underestimate Russia! Long harness but fast jumping!


      Let the Ukrainians jump, we're going.
      1. Yars
        Yars 17 January 2016 21: 19 New
        +1
        Quote: iliitch
        Quote: YARS
        Never underestimate Russia! Long harness but fast jumping!


        Let the Ukrainians jump, we're going.

        I did not even suspect that the word "jumping" would make so much noise ...
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 17 January 2016 15: 09 New
    +6
    And if before many analysts were sticking out who are the strengths, who are the weaknesses of the Russian Armed Forces, then the Syrian conflict provided an opportunity to really assess their capabilities at the present stage of development.


    Not quite right ...
    a small part of the Russian Air Force is participating in this war ... but at the same time, full support is provided by the full power of the RUSSIAN Armed Forces ... the ground forces are not participating in the war ... with the exception of special forces and security forces.
    Therefore, it is impossible to draw a full-fledged conclusion about the real capabilities of the army and navy of RUSSIA only by the Syrian operation.

    What is good for the Russian army at last was a real opportunity to take part in a real war with a cruel and treacherous enemy on its own terms, for the first time the enemy did not impose his rules of war on us ... except for the course of the vile Turkish blow to the back ... it was hard to predict.
    1. AleksUkr
      AleksUkr 17 January 2016 15: 31 New
      +6
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      to draw a full conclusion about the real capabilities of the army and navy of RUSSIA only for the Syrian operation is impossible.


      You, as always, saved a spoonful of tar, on a barrel of honey.
      We need to rejoice in the actions of our military personnel. I think that the rotation will be carried out in a timely manner in order to obtain as many pilots as possible combat experience. And this is already something. Good luck to everyone ...
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 17 January 2016 15: 40 New
        +3
        We need to rejoice in the actions of our military personnel.


        I am very happy about the successes of our fighters ... and at the same time I pray for them that everyone will return home alive and healthy.
        The war in SYRIA will someday end and preferably with the least losses and victory for our country.
    2. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 17 January 2016 16: 36 New
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Therefore, it is impossible to draw a full-fledged conclusion about the real capabilities of the army and navy of RUSSIA only by the Syrian operation.

      And, if you add quite a belligerent and rapidly learning people, then the picture for them should be completely unpredictable ...
  4. gergi
    gergi 17 January 2016 15: 13 New
    +6
    The most peacekeeping weapon in the world is Russia's weapon. Our army should be the best in the world, otherwise the world of Khan. Responsibility however!
    1. shooter18
      shooter18 17 January 2016 15: 16 New
      +5
      And there is! to the world! After all, the rest of the world needs just a strong Russia !!
  5. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 17 January 2016 15: 13 New
    +9
    "If we compare the capabilities of the Russian military with the capabilities of the Americans today, the Russians are still far from parity with the Americans."

    Our task is not to conquer the whole world or compete with the Americans in the quantity of weapons. request
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 17 January 2016 15: 41 New
      +6
      Quote: Vladimirets
      "If we compare the capabilities of the Russian military with the capabilities of the Americans today, the Russians are still far from parity with the Americans."

      Our task is not to conquer the whole world or compete with the Americans in the quantity of weapons.

      Everything is simpler - the effectiveness and strength of aviation, they habitually measure in bombed-out hospitals, destroyed excavators and the number of "friendlifiers" on the plane. If we do not have all this, then so-so aviation! laughing
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 17 January 2016 17: 18 New
        +3
        Yeah, "in addition, although Russia uses unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) in Syria, Barry argues that the Russians" have not yet reached the level of development of unmanned aerial reconnaissance systems that the United States and its allies in Afghanistan demonstrate. " It is he, apparently, also about the possibilities of detecting combat excavators, long-term fortified hospitals and personnel of wedding corteges.
      2. Inok10
        Inok10 17 January 2016 17: 32 New
        +4
        Quote: lelikas
        Everything is simpler - the effectiveness and strength of aviation, they habitually measure in bombed-out hospitals, destroyed excavators and the number of "friendlifiers" on the plane. If we do not have all this, then so-so aviation!

        .. hi ..and let's go .. November 2015
        During the Malabar maneuvers, the Indian submarine (project 877) “Sindhudhvaj” (Sindhudhvaj), built in Leningrad in 1986, “destroyed” the American submarine City of Corpus Christi type “Los Angeles”
        .. ah, it's generally November 2005 .. hi
        On the Indian side, the exercises were attended by Su-30MKI fighters, upgraded MiG-21bis with Kopye-21 onboard radar, MiG-27, MiG-29, Jaguar and Mirage. On the US side, an AWACS early warning and control aircraft participated. The so-called first wave of the exercise was attended by F-16C light fighters with Block 50 equipment with a modified "68" radar, and in the second wave - F-15 heavy fighters.
        Fighters F-16C block 50 are one of the most advanced fighters of the US Air Force with passive radar. Only fighters of the latest modification F-16 block 60 are equipped with an active radar antenna array.
        These exercises were the third in a row. In the previous two, the American side, having deployed F-15 heavy fighters against the MiG-21bis, modernized in India using Russian technologies, and the Su-30MKI, the delivery of which began to the Indian Air Force, completely lost all battles, and sometimes the loss ratio reached 8: 1 and 9: 1 in favor of Indian pilots. The Russian Su-30MKI showed overwhelming superiority over the F-15, both in maneuverability and in combat effectiveness. The effect of the exploding bomb for the Americans was the use in training battles of light modernized MiG-21bis fighters with an airborne radar station (BRLS) "Kopyo-21" - these fighters, possessing a small EPR, actually "fought" on equal terms with modern F-15s and won them. Both Russian and American aviation specialists noted the exceptionally high level of professional flight training of the flight personnel of the combat units of the Indian Air Force.
        ..and these are Indians with our weapons .. it’s easy to imagine what we will do with mattresses with our own hands .. laughing
    2. faridg7
      faridg7 17 January 2016 16: 35 New
      +5
      There is no parity and never will be. Climb, rake in any case. And there will be no talk of the price of victory in this case.
  6. awersa
    awersa 17 January 2016 15: 15 New
    +2
    And why none of these analysts grief recalls the Sailors from the Cook in the Black Sea when they talk about modern Yankee air defense systems once stalled from the same “old Su-24” with an additional container?
    1. cap
      cap 18 January 2016 00: 25 New
      0
      Quote: awersa
      And why none of these analysts grief recalls the Sailors from the Cook in the Black Sea when they talk about modern Yankee air defense systems once stalled from the same “old Su-24” with an additional container?


      Everything is under a red-striped mattress. Silence as if there was nothing. I can assume that they got into the longboat in Romania. It's scary to go home. They will condemn it.
      Tsarnaev was sentenced to death and ordered a fine of $ 101 million. The judge himself at least knew what he was writing. From such justice, he could only twist his finger at his temple. So there’s a version about the longboat.
  7. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 17 January 2016 15: 15 New
    +2
    This is still the flowers - the world of our fighting bears has never been seen in action! Now, according to the daily routine, the game on the baloike, and then the work of the team "avalanche march" in the field for a sight !!!!!!!!!!!!
  8. newcomer
    newcomer 17 January 2016 15: 16 New
    +5
    I agree with almost everything, almost. in fact, the result of a long article is to build up our Sun to the level of Western technology. nonsense. firstly their tomahawks are subsonic, our caliber is supersonic. this is just one example of the lies of Western "analysts" and "experts." the rest is already known. I will not write length like an author. even their specialists cry that our forces of the rap are unattainable for them.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 17 January 2016 15: 25 New
      16
      "their tamogavki are subsonic, our caliber is supersonic" ///

      Those used in Syria are subsonic.
      Speed ​​- 0.8 MAX
  9. Alexander S.
    Alexander S. 17 January 2016 15: 19 New
    -16 qualifying.
    everything, of course, is great .. but we are still not able to ensure flight safety ... that in Ossetia at 08m ... now ... with Turkey.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 17 January 2016 15: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Alexander S.
      everything, of course, is great .. but we are still not able to ensure flight safety ... that in Ossetia at 08m ... now ... with Turkey.

      Flight safety is a contradictory concept in itself, because, as one joke said, no one has remained in the air ....
      And if in 8,8,8, there was an obvious tactical miscalculation - they did not take into account or overslept the presence of air defense, then in Syria it is more likely a provocation, a force majeure that no one could count on.
      Well, count the lost cars over the past year in the peaceful sky of the Russian Federation.
      1. Alexander S.
        Alexander S. 17 January 2016 17: 11 New
        +4
        force majeure that no one could count on? that is, no one expected that the plane of the enemy military alliance (created to confront our country) could not commit an act of aggression against us? since when did we become friends with NATO? and why then were there su-30s? for beauty? here is exactly the same thing - "a tactical miscalculation was not taken into account or overslept .."
        here we always have it. at first we are described .. and then only we will be vigilant ... and competently do everything. eternal story with roosters. So that we can bomb. But air defense ... or under the opposition of the enemy .. this is still a big question. That is the reality. I hope that now they will consider everything for the future.
  10. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 17 January 2016 15: 25 New
    +8
    A strange impression of the article. It seems that they praised it, but it seems that it has grown ... if our army now corresponds to the capabilities of the American army of the 90s, then the modern American army should have absolutely everyone, moreover, in an unnatural form and wherever possible. But it doesn’t! And moreover, he is seriously afraid of many, for example. So - the right way, comrades! :)
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 17 January 2016 15: 53 New
      +2
      Yes, that there us. You look how they ran from Yemen. Already abandoned all. It seems that there, and not the military personnel were at all ...
  11. Kibl
    Kibl 17 January 2016 15: 25 New
    +6
    Well, they have staffs and all their kodlo fancy UAVs, so they use them mainly to destroy wedding banquets in Afghanistan or Pakistan, schools, hospitals and other civilian objects! If Western aircraft have all sorts of suspended containers with target designators, so they smear everything And so it is already two years! A penny for such boxes, and I still do not mean the loss of Western warriors from the so-called "friendly" fire!
  12. ARES623
    ARES623 17 January 2016 15: 27 New
    13
    The quoted quotes from obscure television broadcasters are obviously aimed at provoking our knowledgeable commentators into careless statements. Any layman understands that in conflicts like the Syrian, the latest achievements are never applied on a large scale. And then, speaking of the possibility of Western pilots to independently find targets and hit them, they somehow keep silent about the fact that a number of these goals turn out to be civilian targets. The aerospace forces are hammering targets previously reconnoitered and double-checked, which cannot be done during one flight. Speaking about the representativeness of the results of the work of the air forces in Syria on the scale of all the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, it should be borne in mind that the planned rotation of personnel and career preferences to the participants in the Syrian events seriously spur qualitative growth on the scale of the entire type of aircraft. According to the development of UAVs, Westerners also should not deceive themselves. The main thing in this regard has been done in the Russian Federation - unmanned and robotic systems have received priority development and now it’s only time. But our robots really fought on the battlefield, unlike amerskie. About EU products are generally not particularly heard. With all this, it is somehow strange to hear about the confrontation between Russia and NATO in the context of rivalry in conventional weapons. In this regard, I would like to draw attention to the Afghan operation of NATO. Spirits do not stand next to NATO in terms of technical potential, but NATO stalls in full.
    I think that when considering the possibility of a military conflict between NATO and the Russian Federation, it is necessary to take into account the impossibility of physical residence in most of the territories of developed countries in Europe and America.
    1. shooter18
      shooter18 17 January 2016 15: 50 New
      +2
      All their progress in the field of drones comes down to the fact that they have small drones (like quadrocopters with e-bay) that are now widely used by all types of troops ..
  13. shooter18
    shooter18 17 January 2016 15: 34 New
    +2
    It would be interesting to hear Mr. Rogozin's opinion on this article!
    1. cap
      cap 18 January 2016 00: 15 New
      +1
      He has already spoken on this subject.
      On the development of the Russian defense industry
      when: 23.12.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX
      where: interview "Arguments and Facts"
      “We are looking at what's new in the Americans, the British, the French. We read, check, identify trends in the development of weapons and military equipment. If they are adapted to our methods of warfare, we apply the same at home. We simply have no right to oversleep another revolution in military affairs, as was the case with drones. "
  14. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 17 January 2016 15: 36 New
    +4
    Yes, by the way. Confused that new helicopters are not "tested". At least one link at a time could be tested.
    1. glasha3032
      glasha3032 18 January 2016 03: 07 New
      0
      They do not use new helicopters, possibly because there are no worthy goals (helicopters were nevertheless developed to combat armored vehicles, and ISIS does not have a lot of them) and an increased risk of falling under fire from ground-based air defense systems (DShK, ZPU_-23, etc.)
  15. newcomer
    newcomer 17 January 2016 15: 38 New
    +4
    voyaka uh I agree, here I am a little generalized, but the point is that our calibers can be launched almost from the river fleet. Tomahawks need a solid tonnage. I'm afraid to make a mistake, but somewhere around 20/25 thousand. t
    1. cyberspace
      cyberspace 17 January 2016 17: 06 New
      +2
      You are a little mistaken - cruisers of the Ticonderoga type - 9960 tons, destroyers Spryuzns - 8200 tons, Orly Burke - 9200 tons of full displacement.
  16. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 17 January 2016 15: 39 New
    +9
    In contrast to the 2008 conflict in South Ossetia, during which the Russian Air Force could not achieve air superiority or provide adequate air support to the Ground Forces

    What is this phrase? Yes, not everything went smoothly, but there were losses (the "non-brothers" tried). And somehow I do not remember the "Georgian falcons" in the sky of Georgia. But Mishiko, chewing a tie, and hearing the roar of a flying Russian plane from this falling under the feet of the guards, the whole world saw and remembers.
  17. prostofily
    prostofily 17 January 2016 15: 42 New
    +1
    Yes, funny. Russia and no need to attack anyone. All themselves will sail or arrive. Well, there it is known that.
  18. V.ic
    V.ic 17 January 2016 15: 44 New
    +2
    for Russia, a genuine qualitative leap, a kind of combination of the capabilities of the 1990s and partly quite modern, which the military has in the West. ” Posted by Robert Lee

    "... the possibilities of the 1990s ..." Recognition through clenched teeth and reluctantly. And in the early 90s, they still "staged".
    1. glasha3032
      glasha3032 18 January 2016 03: 13 New
      -1
      I remember that in the early 90s, the United States deployed its troops in friendly Saudi Arabia before the start of Desert Storm for two months! Of course, now they envy and malice that Russia can deploy its troops so rapidly (and there have already been calls - a paratrooper march on Pristina and the war in Georgia).
  19. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 17 January 2016 15: 47 New
    +1
    however, it is unlikely that most of the formations and units of the Aerospace Forces and Ground Forces of Russia are equipped and trained with the same dignity.

    But these are gentlemen, military secret, we do not even know this. Surprise will be! All the most interesting, as always ahead ...
    1. glasha3032
      glasha3032 18 January 2016 03: 17 New
      +1
      Well, apparently it's not for nothing that the troops are constantly being driven to the training grounds and large-scale exercises are being driven, so that they will always be in "form".
  20. Navy7981
    Navy7981 17 January 2016 15: 53 New
    +2
    The article is good and interesting, but this is what I thought. They (Western military experts and analysts) do not want to believe in our capabilities, carefully closing their eyes to everything that does not fit into their logic. That is, gritting their teeth, they recognize that it is impossible to deny and diligently ignore the consequences of our use of one or another component (weapons, equipment, logistics, support, etc.) of a military operation or actions within the framework of this operation. Accordingly, their conclusions will be erroneous, but rather have already led to them. On their basis, recommendations, manuals, charters will be formed, which will ultimately lead the "guys" to a dead end.
  21. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 17 January 2016 15: 53 New
    +3
    They collected one article from all the articles in one heap. For those who have just come down from the mountains and then read everything, what happened since September 30. And in the end, the conclusion about parity is not correct! Yes, no one is going to beat pillows on a log. Russia will never wage war like sheep by the number of bayonets. At that time, it’s hopelessly behind. We will always be talking about achieving victory. And this thing is not amenable to Western analytics. We will take cunning and unpredictability. Russian courage has never failed. And we already have enough means and methods. We are not in the 90s! Let them overseas think of their type of power overseas, and at the same time obey us. We don’t need another yet.
    1. glasha3032
      glasha3032 18 January 2016 03: 19 New
      0
      Cunning is cunning, but skill is also needed .... And the war in Syria shows that we can.
  22. thinker
    thinker 17 January 2016 15: 54 New
    +7
    To strike at rebels Russia used a number of precision weapons ...

    Coalition bombing Daesh, and Russia rebels? Oh well! fool
  23. Sinecote
    Sinecote 17 January 2016 16: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: Vladimirets
    "If we compare the capabilities of the Russian military with the capabilities of the Americans today, the Russians are still far from parity with the Americans."

    Our task is not to conquer the whole world or compete with the Americans in the quantity of weapons. request

    Yes, we don't need to conquer the whole world. This even contradicts our psychology: "We won't take someone else's, but we won't give up our own either." But our nuclear weapons and all our military capabilities make America and others reckon with us.
    1. Dembel77
      Dembel77 17 January 2016 16: 35 New
      +2
      The author of the article apparently does not know what Russian President Vladimir Putin said on December 11, taking part in the annual expanded board of the Russian Ministry of Defense, about the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces in the Syrian Arab Republic. Here is a brief summary:
      "Our actions there are not dictated by any incomprehensible, abstract geopolitical interests, are not dictated by the desire to practice and test new weapons systems, which in itself, of course, is also important," Putin said.
      “The main thing,” he stressed, “is to prevent a threat to the Russian Federation itself,” the Russian president said.
      Those. in fact, we defend our national interests there. How can and how can. And if circumstances require somewhere else, then all the military potential and combat experience will be used - and Russia has such that it’s better not to check on yourself! Read the story, gentlemen, Western analysts and experts.
  24. BLOND
    BLOND 17 January 2016 16: 22 New
    +2
    They recognized the growth of combat effectiveness of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation (and where should they go), but they did not forget a fly in the ointment (n and ddos, what to take from them)
    But this phrase, repeatedly repeated by the author of the article, warped me

    Russian military intervention in Syria ...


    We are in Syria at the request of the Syrian government to protect an ally and our own interests in the region!
  25. Sinecote
    Sinecote 17 January 2016 16: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: surovts.valery
    In contrast to the 2008 conflict in South Ossetia, during which the Russian Air Force could not achieve air superiority or provide adequate air support to the Ground Forces

    What is this phrase? Yes, not everything went smoothly, but there were losses (the "non-brothers" tried). And somehow I do not remember the "Georgian falcons" in the sky of Georgia. But Mishiko, chewing a tie, and hearing the roar of a flying Russian plane from this falling under the feet of the guards, the whole world saw and remembers.

    That's for sure! The Georgians didn’t understand very well at the time, but then the planes. America did not trust them with such a technique. Get on their own.
  26. Yuyuka
    Yuyuka 17 January 2016 16: 42 New
    +5
    It is depressing that the article does not say anything about the most important thing - about a man with a gun, that is, about people who are "in service". right here is the dog buried, which rummaged wassat The morale of the army has not been canceled! The technique is a good thing, but the morale sometimes throws it on the battlefield - the example of Novorossiya, and also the "legendary" "Cook", from which the "brave American sailors" signed off ashore.
    Yes, and the whole history of the Russian state says that "they fight not by numbers, but by skill!" (C) Just yesterday I read about Russian ingenuity. I liked the phrase -

    “If you need to do something, call the Chinese. If you need to do something impossible, call the Russians. ”
  27. Yuyuka
    Yuyuka 17 January 2016 16: 42 New
    +6
    Here are excerpts about some cases (fully interested
    http://cassad.net/istoriya/23460-zapadnye-voennye-eksperty-pridumat-takoe-mogut-
    tolko-russkie.html)

    In August 1941, one rifle company was thrown to plug a hole in our defense in the area of ​​Krivoy Rog. The task was set not to let German tanks pass, hold on to the last drop of blood. They drove the company into place, shipped a whole fifteen RPG-40 anti-tank grenades, said that there would probably be a lot of tanks tomorrow and left. In all tactical situations, the fighters had less than a day to live.
    The commander examined the area and ordered: “It's a shame, people are coming to visit us from Germany, and our road is so broken.” “Crazy, probably out of fear,” thought the fighters. The commander continued: “Shake everyone out of the stuff bags and follow me.” The company went to the slag hill closest to the road, taken out from the nearby Kryvyi Rih metallurgical plant, the equipment of which had already been evacuated to Nizhny Tagil. The commander was forced to bag slag and carry to the road.
    Slag poured unevenly onto the road itself, more where the road goes up the hill. “So that it’s not slippery for them,” the commander said. They dragged the slag for a very long time, all the bags were torn into rags, but managed to cover the slag with almost two kilometers of the road. The people are angry and tired, now, after all, they also dig in at midnight.

    In the morning, from the slag mountains, the observers gave a signal: “I see tanks.”

    Squeezing their almost useless grenades, the soldiers knew that life was over. Finally, the tanks began to enter the "well-maintained" road. The third tank of the column lost the caterpillar first, and a minute later the epidemic swept the remaining vehicles, the number eight. Standing tank, if you do not annoy him, the thing is safe. Not immediately realized what you are ist das, the Germans killed the evacuator tank. The Germans' infantry is not bad, they won't go forward without tanks - a traffic jam. Our run into them too, there is no reason.
    The commander who formally completed the combat mission to stop the tanks sends the messenger to find at least some bosses and pass: “The task is completed. There are no losses. ” The messenger brought the good news: “You can leave at night, there is a defense behind. There will be an opportunity, then we'll cover with artillery ”...

    The secret of the commander was his education. In civilian life, he was a cold metal technician. Nikelshlaki - waste from the production of high alloy steel - is a terrible abrasive, only slightly inferior to corundum and aluminum oxide. No fingers of the tracks can withstand bullying by such rubbish, and the caterpillar becomes unusable as a whole, taking with it most of the entire drive.
    Knowledge is a terrible force.


    and here is another

    During the Great Patriotic War, partisan radio operators had simple ciphers, which German decryptors pricked one or two. And then someone at the headquarters of the partisan movement suggested making deliberate spelling errors in ciphers - such as “branetranspenter”, “ovtamat”, “somalet”, “anteleria”, “banbeshka”.
    Since there were no such words in Russian-German dictionaries, the Laf for enemy decryptors quickly ended.
    And all the well-known Russian folk dirty tricks on the air - when the signalmen talked on their native, on obscene. This language cannot be translated - it must be understood, and at least be a native speaker
  28. Al ssz
    Al ssz 17 January 2016 16: 43 New
    -4
    A very "patriotic" or "patriotic" site. Feel the difference .. The main thing is caps up and you are invincible .. We'll throw them all over with them .. Gazprom is no longer a "property of Russia", but what?, A private shop? Well, it has always been known .. Miller, Novak .. Where are Russian surnames ??. But what's the difference, "iPhone" and "bear" are synonyms, also a Russian word .. However, this applies to all industries, follow the "press" ..
  29. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 17 January 2016 16: 47 New
    +2
    All conclusions and comparisons are superficial and arbitrary.
    Since the Second World War there has not been a war between two equal forces (the Arab-Israeli conflicts do not count). And only the strong ones are an order of magnitude weak. And if the operations slowed down, then only for political reasons (the desire to sort out the good and the bad). If if it were required to completely crush the weak, then there would be no wet place.
    Only a full-scale clash between equivalent forces can show the real power and potential of the armed forces.
    Although it may very well happen that with mutual weakening and exhaustion, the third force will dominate ... for the time being "sitting and waiting in the tree" ...
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 17 January 2016 16: 54 New
      +5
      "there was no war between two equal forces ////

      There were. Iran-Iraq war, Indo-Pakistani war.
      Combat "draws" of approximately equal forces.
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 17 January 2016 17: 14 New
        +1
        Hello Alexey. With all due respect to you, but it looks more like a border conflict.
        1. saruman
          saruman 18 January 2016 12: 18 New
          +1
          Quote: Barkhan
          With all due respect to you, but it looks more like border conflicts.

          Yeah, especially the Iraq-Iraq war!
  30. Al ssz
    Al ssz 17 January 2016 16: 55 New
    +3
    Just show that we are .. Well, test the weapon along the way. Show the significance, elections are coming soon, a report is needed .. And there is nothing to say, everything and everyone is an ass .. In Engels so .. I think it is not better in other places either. Russia begins outside the Moscow Ring Road, no need to bend your heart. The Kremlin is a bunch of people. Anything with anything and whoever. Sleeping "tunics" "deputies" of unknown origin .. Make conclusions, gentlemen .. Patience is not unlimited .. Someone needs to "sit down", really, not house arrest, just in prison .. But they live happily ever after .. there are no officials.
    . shooting. There are no other options..
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 17 January 2016 17: 59 New
      +4
      Calmly respected, do not get excited. You are not the only one who is dissatisfied ... Otherwise, you can slander about "inciting and calling for ...".
      Work with the electorate and cook
      them to the elections. And if you want to drown the country in blood, then excuse me and you yourself can hang ...
  31. borys
    borys 17 January 2016 17: 07 New
    +1
    We must call a spade a spade. Not "Russia's military intervention in
    Syria ", and Russia's military assistance to the people and the legitimate government of Syria.
  32. Al ssz
    Al ssz 17 January 2016 17: 18 New
    +2
    Once again .. Moscow is not "All Russia" and certainly not Edrosnya .., Chelyabinsk, Samara, Omsk, Tomsk, and .. There are many cities in Russia. And Moscow is not in the first place. As well as "Gazprom" is not the property of Russia .. it is an axiom .. It is not subject to discussion .. Then what is there? Pipes, no one knows where and why. And we all have friends and brothers, discounts to whom and how horrible ... Location does not matter. Where is the "property" ??? It's ALL Ours .. I wonder whose ???
    1. ty60
      ty60 17 January 2016 20: 20 New
      0
      members of the Hilderberg club. From Russia, only Chubais enters. Conclusions?
  33. Omsk
    Omsk 17 January 2016 17: 21 New
    +2
    aviation is used practically in the absence of enemy air defense ...
    and yes, there are the most trained pilots and technicians there. in a military clash with NATO, there will be no such greenhouse conditions ...
    the leap is really huge, at least in the organization of flights and supplies, but cap-bailing has never led to good.
  34. vetlan19
    vetlan19 17 January 2016 17: 23 New
    +1
    Wonderful analysis by Western, so to speak "curators", of our capabilities and impossibilities, potentials and non-potentials.
    As a result - 1. a fairly clear range of tasks in which you need to work intensively - to catch up and overtake!
    2. Good lighting for potential buyers of our weapons of the successes that we have achieved, ahead of competitors.
  35. From Samara
    From Samara 17 January 2016 17: 49 New
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    While I don’t see a radical change ...
  36. From Samara
    From Samara 17 January 2016 17: 53 New
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    Yes, and the police dressed up in red berets, Shmonona our fighters on the runway Take away! But shame ...
  37. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 January 2016 18: 02 New
    +1
    Along with the recent successful operation in Crimea, it forces Western experts to rethink Russia's military capabilities. In the case of Syria, the emphasis is on the air campaign, implemented with the involvement of general forces, as well as a number of new technical solutions and weapons systems.


    Late to rethink cranks, now Russia’s military capabilities must be taken for granted, and in accordance with this very important factor of geopolitics, naturally fearing for its own skin, make political decisions. Otherwise, you will not see good luck.
    Forced to remind once again:
  38. vv3
    vv3 17 January 2016 18: 29 New
    +3
    I would like to write an article on this topic. Immediately, I note that I do not question the success of our Aerospace Forces and the shown level of professional training of the troops. But a good commander looks forward, especially since the combat mission in Syria has not yet been completed. And how to carry it out and similar ones. what needs to be done for this? .. Few noticed such a rational link in this article. The truth is about this, your humble servant has been talking on the forum for a month and got a bunch of drawbacks and was banned indefinitely. "... they do not have the necessary level of integration of airborne and ground technical complexes. "Many do not understand what we are talking about, unfortunately. The GOD of modern war is information technology. For all our successes, we do not wage a modern war in Syria. Even in such simplified conditions, we cannot fight in a new way. This is a WWII-level company with modern means of destruction, though of a high level of organization ... And this is not enough to effectively complete a military operation in Syria ...
    1. glasha3032
      glasha3032 18 January 2016 03: 29 New
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      How much information technology has helped Americans in Syria? Do they have deafening victories? Bombing accuracy? And what will happen to information technology if the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation turn on jamming and suppression systems? On the battlefield? In vast territories?
  39. Masters
    Masters 17 January 2016 19: 54 New
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    Quote: Kasym
    So there is enough "work" for NATO analysts.

    Yes, the next 10 years will be dismantled at their headquarters, as Russia, with its economy torn to shreds, wiped the nose of all civilized countries
  40. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 17 January 2016 20: 11 New
    +7
    You can yap at a bear, only a bear is not interested, remember Bismarck. Although what people without memory can remember.

    We realized that even with all the problems, the RF Aerospace Forces is a big headache. Oh, these Russians - they drew conclusions after the conflict of the "three eights" and learned their lessons qualitatively, there is no rest with them. The first 48 hours of the Air Force's operation in Ossetia is a shame for the Armed Forces. Respect for those who planned the deployment in Syria. Those who "hammer", manage and collect data - two respect. Bismarck loved this country and spoke about it honestly.
  41. ALLxANDr
    ALLxANDr 17 January 2016 21: 59 New
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    Long-standing aphorism “Russia is never as strong as it looks, nor is it as weak as it may seem” - it is very well said!
    Confirmed by the 1st and 2nd World War.
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  43. cap
    cap 17 January 2016 23: 58 New
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    “It turns out that Russian military intervention in Syria is largely reminiscent of the capabilities of the American military machine of the 1990s; however, few European NATO members can do what Russia does in Syria. If until recently only the United States was the only country in the world that could independently carry out a modern military operation, coordinated by place, time and composition of participants, at a great distance from its borders, now Russia has become the second member of this exclusive club. As noted by Michael Kofman, "delivering attacks in the dark with real-time assessment of the results using UAVs is for Russia a genuine qualitative leap, a combination of the capabilities of the 1990s and partly quite modern, which the military has in the West." Long-standing aphorism “Russia is never as strong as it looks, nor is it as weak as it may seem” today is as relevant as yesterday.
    Posted by Robert Lee
    Well, okay, the 90s and the 90s are already good. The main place in the "exclusive" club was provided. Thanks, we did not know. But the fact that "Russia is never as strong as it looks, nor is it as weak as it may seem" really should not be forgotten. And God forbid, check on yourself.
    That's something like that, Mr. Lee and the company. And then God forbid you will discover another America for yourself.
  44. George 275
    George 275 18 January 2016 00: 46 New
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    The enemy does not sleep, but the powder must be kept dry.
  45. Outsmarted
    Outsmarted 18 January 2016 05: 52 New
    +1
    In addition, the Russian army aviation in Syria relied on the used Mi-24PN and Mi-8AMTSh aircraft, which may indicate an insufficient level of development of new Mi-28N helicopters in the troops (although, according to a number of sources, the Mi-28N was deployed in Syria) and Ka-52.
    Several Ka-52s to be sent to Syria in Primorye
  46. Infernal man
    Infernal man 18 January 2016 07: 58 New
    +1
    I did not like the article because of incorrect examples and evaluations of the work of the Armed Forces in Ossetia in 2008.
  47. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 18 January 2016 17: 52 New
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    Quote: Ros 56
    Along with the recent successful operation in Crimea, it forces Western experts to rethink Russia's military capabilities. In the case of Syria, the emphasis is on the air campaign, implemented with the involvement of general forces, as well as a number of new technical solutions and weapons systems.


    Late to rethink cranks, now Russia’s military capabilities must be taken for granted, and in accordance with this very important factor of geopolitics, naturally fearing for its own skin, make political decisions. Otherwise, you will not see good luck.
    Forced to remind once again:

    expensive but zoto will not be a raw materials appendage. who this time will lead the idiots for zvizdyuly)))
  48. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 18 January 2016 17: 54 New
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    Nothing, nothing ... The Russians are slowly harnessing, but traveling fast ... There will be more new UAVs and more precision weapons in the army. Well, now our pilots are gaining experience that can be compared to ranges.