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Russian-Syrian border

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Roadblocks to Turkey will do Aviation more effective


The operation of the Russian HVAC in Syria continues successfully. However, recent events on the counterterrorism fronts in this area show that a broad international coalition, whose troops would closely coordinate their efforts in place, time and goals, as required by elementary tactical norms, does not add up.

On the other hand, despite the successful results of the air strikes, the militants have not only failed weaponsbut also counterattack on separate sectors of the front. And taking into account the fact that the ways of replenishing people, equipment and ammunition for militants from the open borders of Turkey, Iraq and Jordan remain, the effectiveness of the bombings decreases, and the tension on the contact line remains.

Russian-Syrian borderThe fighters in front of the airstrikes of our VKS and in the course of strikes flow in the indicated directions, like mercury, and appear already in the new sections of the Syrian front armed, technically equipped.

Obviously, an effective land counterterrorism operation is indispensable. But the Syrian army, exhausted in daily clashes with extremists, is not yet able to conduct a large-scale sweep on its own.

Russia refrains from carrying out such an operation, which at the moment in the situation prevailing in the world seems right.

But helping the upcoming Syrian formations is possible and, in my opinion, necessary. The main thing is not to let yourself be drawn into the bloody daily battles of local significance, in which significant casualties of our servicemen are likely and the most dangerous one is their captivity.

It seems expedient and necessary to start to block the 98-kilometer “corridor” on the border with Turkey, from where the main stream of material and technical supply of the armed groups comes. To do this, as one of the options, it is necessary to place the strong points of our landing force with reinforcements on the three main roads leading to Turkey, that is, in fact, become garrisons, which does not contradict the general concept of the presence of Russian troops in Syria. The task is to prevent the movement of people and equipment, including, naturally, gasoline tank trucks with stolen oil. In the intervals between roadblocks, mobile fighter groups must operate on the combat vehicles of the assault force to prevent attempts to penetrate the territory of the SAR from Turkey and back to bypass our roadblocks.

A good help land forces of Syria could be the destruction of these highways from the air. Thus, the criminal oil traffic will be stopped, the material and technical supply of the bandits will stop. Conditions will be created under which it is impossible to restore the combat capability of terrorist detachments after our bombardment.

Both options, de jure and de facto, are aimed at the elimination of the “Islamic state” prohibited in Russia and do not envisage a direct military clash with Turkey. Moreover, the solution of the main task of fighting the IS is accelerated: the destruction of terrorists “to the last gangster”.
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  1. Decathlon
    Decathlon 10 December 2015 10: 54
    54
    "... it is required to place strong points of our landing ..."
    The author himself is already in a vest and takes berets lace up ?!
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 10 December 2015 10: 57
      -9
      Do you think you can defeat ISIL with one aircraft ??? Moreover, our fools themselves are leaking information to the United States where they will beat .. While ours fly to bomb the igil, or fire calibers at them, the Americans will already warn their "moderate" friends, and they will scatter.
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 10 December 2015 11: 03
        45
        There, the people are marking around pretty much and with weapons, so even without our airborne forces there is someone to sit in the oporniks, a respected author, if you want, you can volunteer.
        1. Temples
          Temples 10 December 2015 11: 14
          +7
          Moreover, our fools themselves merge US information where they will beat

          So then they are the fools you have.
          And the Russian military is informing the United States to avoid incidents in the air and on the land of Syria. And also to warn lies in the Western press.
        2. cniza
          cniza 10 December 2015 11: 31
          +9
          Quote: 79807420129
          There, the people are marking around pretty much and with weapons, so even without our airborne forces there is someone to sit in the oporniks, a respected author, if you want, you can volunteer.


          We can help with weapons, and only from the air.
          1. SMikhalych
            SMikhalych 10 December 2015 12: 12
            +4
            Quote: cniza
            We can help with weapons, and only from the air.

            Moreover, specifically and targeted - Kurds.
            And consult them properly so that they do not rush through the fields, like wounded lynxes in the ass, but inflict maximum damage with minimal losses. soldier
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        4. Gorjelin
          Gorjelin 10 December 2015 11: 39
          +2
          There, the people are marking around pretty much and with weapons, so even without our airborne forces there is someone to sit in the oporniks, a respected author, if you want, you can volunteer.

          The ground operation, in terms of logic and meaning, should be provided by Iran. First of all, these are his interests.
          And we must help with weapons, instructors and airstrikes. + The Syrians themselves need to be tightened to protect their own country.
        5. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 10 December 2015 11: 53
          +4
          What the author offers is the beginning of a second Afghanistan. The High Command clearly said that there would be no ground operation. If the author is bursting with strategic initiatives - let him turn to the General Staff.
          It must be clearly understood that we are only helping the Syrian government.
          1. KVIRTU
            KVIRTU 10 December 2015 13: 32
            +2
            I fully support it. Our boys, conscripts, Russian, to Syria? Only specialists, professionals, I repeat, in the Crimea all were like that during "Spring", he is personally familiar. Another question for the Supreme Command: yes, titles were awarded by a closed decree, awards were presented, but what about benefits? Database member status? I am not speaking for myself, in that hassle the healthy men, the paratroopers, fell without strength, i.e. loss of energy, local doctors nursed with the help of droppers and other things.
      2. spiriolla-45
        spiriolla-45 10 December 2015 11: 11
        +1
        Our management wants to play "good guys" all the time, they say we are all according to the law, we will warn you - this is all the desire to please the Americans, and it itches, they have, to lick the black ass. Yes, if the devil pulled you into this fight without finishing another one, then don't look back at your uncle, but what will he say.
        1. klaus16
          klaus16 10 December 2015 11: 38
          +4
          And by the way, why did not Syria and I once shut the air? When Assad called our. It was a very good moment. Now it's late. Indeed, we are losing again on this issue. Much could have been avoided.
          1. KVIRTU
            KVIRTU 10 December 2015 12: 53
            +2
            Yeah. It could be. Especially when the pilot of the Turkish F-16 in the headset of the helmet would hear a pleasant female voice of the voice informant "Detected radiation from the air defense missile system radar in the rear hemisphere", or whatever they have written there. But it turns out: until the thunder breaks out, the peasant does not cross himself, i.e. S-400 will not bring.
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      3. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 10 December 2015 11: 11
        +4
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        Do you think you can defeat ISIL with one aircraft ??? Moreover, our fools themselves are leaking information to the United States where they will beat .. While ours fly to bomb the igil, or fire calibers at them, the Americans will already warn their "moderate" friends, and they will scatter.

        What is Iran silent? He only has 350 thousand people. Let them block the border, apparently we don’t know what. And regarding support from the Russian Federation, the supply of weapons is needed, but at this stage no more.
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 10 December 2015 11: 19
          +3
          Quote: Phantom Revolution
          What is Iran silent?

          And he needs to be sanctioned
        2. DIVAN SOLDIER
          DIVAN SOLDIER 10 December 2015 11: 20
          0
          Iran and so it helps us, allowed the passage of aircraft over its territory, of the same calibers. And we were very mean when we refused to supply them with the 300, but apparently now we thought better of it.
        3. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 10 December 2015 11: 42
          +5
          “Why is Iran silent? It has only 350 thousand people on land.
          Let them close the border "////

          Do you think Iran dreams of fighting Turkey? They border
          among themselves, by the way.
          Iranian "Guardians of the Revolution" fighting for Assad do not even come close to the Turkish border.
          1. von_Tilsit
            von_Tilsit 10 December 2015 12: 05
            0
            Do not forget - Iran is the strongest SHIIT power of the planet! For them, Sunni Turks are like Baptists for the Pope (nothing personal). So I would not rule out provocations and conflict between Iran and Turkey.
            1. atalef
              atalef 10 December 2015 12: 13
              +3
              Quote: von_Tilsit
              Do not forget - Iran is the strongest SHIIT power of the planet!

              Well, with this you at least went too far.
              Iran is the only Shiite country in the world and nothing more.

              Quote: von_Tilsit
              For them, Sunni Turks are like Baptists for the Pope (nothing personal).

              Somehow you put everything upside down.
              90% of the world's Muslims are Sunnis.
              Shiites in the region of 7-8%.
              those. it would be right to say - Shiites for the Sunnis, like Baptists for the Pope
              Quote: von_Tilsit
              ) So I would not rule out provocations and conflict between Iran and Turkey.

              Turks are not so religious yet.
              1. alecsis69
                alecsis69 11 December 2015 14: 56
                0
                Iran is not the only country with a predominance of the Shiite population, at least Azerbaijan as well.
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        4. Gorjelin
          Gorjelin 10 December 2015 12: 07
          0
          What is Iran silent? He only has 350 thousand people. Let them block the border, apparently we don’t know what. And regarding support from the Russian Federation, the supply of weapons is needed, but at this stage no more.

          Iran should scream! If they finish Syria, the jackals will take over Iran.
        5. lis-ik
          lis-ik 10 December 2015 14: 43
          0
          Something about the joint headquarters in Baghdad has not been heard for a long time, or are there disagreements?
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      4. Homo
        Homo 10 December 2015 11: 22
        +3
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        While ours are flying to bomb the igils, or are firing calibers at them, the Americans will already warn their "moderate" friends, and they will scatter through their burrows.

        Yeah, and 50-100 tons of ammunition will be taken away in a couple of hours and all the fortifications will be dismantled, the refinery will be moved a few kilometers to the side, and after the raid everything will be returned back? fool
        1. DIVAN SOLDIER
          DIVAN SOLDIER 10 December 2015 11: 25
          0
          Well, at least they will save manpower, and they will drop ammunition anyway, or cross the border with Turkey.

          And one more thing, I will answer TEMPLE on the prevention of incidents in the air and on the ground. They warned us that they would bring down our plane? They warned that they would hit the positions of the Syrian army? No.
          So do not make a fuss about a joint focal point with the Americans.
          1. Forest
            Forest 10 December 2015 11: 52
            0
            This is what data transfer rate should be in order for the equipment and people to move on the earth faster than aviation flies? And the destruction of manpower is not a priority for the VKS.
      5. Now we are free
        Now we are free 10 December 2015 11: 28
        16
        The article did not set a plus or minus ...
        It seems strange that once a week an article appears -A can we introduce, A? As if someone like "Water wears away the stone" is trying to form an opinion that it is still necessary to enter ...
        Regarding the problems described in terms of helping the Syrian army to cut the supplying ISIS and other Nusra, catheters from Turkey, Iraq, Jordan, I agree BUT for some reason the author is modestly silent that not only the notorious section of 98 km on the border of Turkey and Syria will have to be stopped, but almost the entire border because the Kurds are unpredictable guys and their opinion about who to help can change very quickly. An example is the Kurds in Iraq who let 1500 Turks with military equipment into their territory ... And now imagine our guys at distant checkpoints in the mountains of Syria who suddenly find themselves suddenly completely surrounded ... The Kurds will leave by letting go (for certain "Nyashki" Erdogan) on their territory, ISIS and Nusra and they simultaneously attack our outposts (an example of cooperation has already been where IS and An Nusra attacked at the same time a vital highway) + Turkey will help them "incognito" by sending 155 mm suitcases across the border on the heads of our guys .. Well and? .. Does anyone have any thoughts that it will not be so?
        Oh yes, does the author imagine the Syrian border with Iraq and Jordan (in extent)?

        I repeat, I agree with the fact that it is necessary to help the troops of Assad, BUT I described the prospect of assistance to the "Infantry of Russia" above ...

        In addition, I am more and more inclined to believe that "Probable partners" are expecting this step from us "Probable partners" for it has not yet been extinguished and is under the steam of the unfinished "Banderokhina" + the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict around Nagorno-Karabakh is smoldering + A shock fist is being formed from the sworn Taliban IS on the Tajik-Afghan border ...
        Our forces want to tear apart ... Russia did not succeed in poisoning with the Marshes (Ukraine succeeded), Russia could not be killed with sanctions, The US / NATO will not openly fight against Russia because they want to live, a simultaneous set of measures remains:
        -What no choke sanctions
        -Feeding "Pentacolon" diphtheria
        - Etching (by the hands of "baboons") of the RF Armed Forces (with a strain on the RF economy to supply the group in distant conflicts) on as many fronts as possible.
        1. lis-ik
          lis-ik 10 December 2015 14: 50
          +1
          Also, such an idea arose long ago, and the feeling that public opinion is being prepared not only on the Internet, but also such information skips in the media. Personally, I think it's not a fig, because nafig.
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      9. the most important
        the most important 10 December 2015 11: 59
        +1
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        Do you think one aircraft can defeat the igil ??

        Block roads ???? So, we have no roads beyond the Urals, only swamps, but nothing, people live, and to break a new road through the desert is to spit! Garrisons are not an option. But the intensity of the bombing will solve the problem much better.
      10. Shark Lover
        Shark Lover 10 December 2015 12: 46
        0
        You know, the Commander of the 40th Army in the DRA, he correctly said about winning. The task to win was not set for us, if we set it, we would fulfill it, but the price would be different. I think here about the same. When iron is constantly pouring on you from the sky and explodes again, victory takes place in the brain, well, or where it is (like a brain). This is a much greater victory, just gradually the desire to be in this zone or country disappears. You do not win, you are not rimbaud, you just stupidly destroy, like a worm. You can shoot squirrels in the eye, possess the outstanding abilities of military skill, intuition, luck, scout, saboteur, all this is useless. In addition, you do it stupidly for money, you have something to lose and where to run, and in general a thought arises, but do I need it? And even there is no one to be mad at, it flies in from nowhere, from the sky, even if you are sitting and pooping peacefully near the house, which, for some reason, is chosen as the target. This is scary for EVERYONE !!! It is necessary to achieve such a victory, they themselves will resolve, well, most of it.
      11. MATROSKIN-53
        MATROSKIN-53 10 December 2015 14: 02
        0
        This is a plus! They scattered through holes. And we are on these holes! ..
      12. gingerbread man 59
        gingerbread man 59 10 December 2015 15: 18
        0
        I agree, we tell them the coordinates and they quickly pass them to the jackals because the jackals themselves are USA
    2. Tor5
      Tor5 10 December 2015 11: 48
      +2
      So the author’s proposal is there - a fuse for a big war with Turkey!
      Another question is to crumble roads from the air, so as not to pass or pass.
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  2. V.ic
    V.ic 10 December 2015 10: 54
    +7
    "On the ground" you do not have to get out of the protected perimeter. Let the author personally lead the proposed scam. Flag in his hands ...
  3. tommy717
    tommy717 10 December 2015 10: 55
    13
    We have nothing more to do than to establish roadblocks in Syria. It is easier to help the Kurds occupy this strip and promise that the land will go to them on the basis of autonomy. So there will be a natural barrier at the border.
  4. fedos_87
    fedos_87 10 December 2015 10: 56
    +3
    Enough of us two deaths.
  5. Shooting
    Shooting 10 December 2015 10: 56
    +7
    Come on, Anatoly himself go to the proposed strong point and from there write to us what else Russia needs.
  6. Garik711
    Garik711 10 December 2015 10: 58
    +6
    It seems to me that the Syrian troops can block the 98-kilometer stretch of the border. In my opinion, our troops should never be involved in a ground operation in Syria
  7. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 10 December 2015 10: 58
    +5
    An article in a circle has been chasing more than one day already ... And it is written rewritten on it! sad
  8. solovey
    solovey 10 December 2015 10: 58
    +5
    Block posts should create the Syrian army or the Kurds but not like our paratroopers !!!
  9. Moore
    Moore 10 December 2015 11: 00
    +2
    To do this ... place the strongholds of our landing with reinforcements on the three main roads leading to Turkey, that is, actually become garrisons ... The task is to prevent people and equipment from moving to either side, including, of course, fuel trucks with stolen oil. Between the checkpoints, mobile fighter groups must operate on airborne combat vehicles in order to prevent attempts to enter the territory of the SAR from Turkey and back, bypassing our checkpoints.

    Which author sees the composition of forces and means for carrying out these events?
    As I understand it, taking into account the shift - no less than a regiment l / s and something about the tank battalion? And to the existing pair of artillery divisions?
  10. Job
    Job 10 December 2015 11: 00
    +6
    The most interesting thing is that the author, on the one hand, writes correctly, but does not take into account that then we will have to bury our guys, and he himself will not even think about going there
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 10 December 2015 11: 12
      11 th
      And why then need contract soldiers ??? To sit at the mother’s skirt in part and get paid ?? They must be ready at the first order of the supreme to be ready to give their lives for the country and its interests, they are paid money for this. And also contract soldiers like our professionals, and not yesterday’s schoolchildren of 18 years old, who were in Chechnya.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 10 December 2015 11: 42
        +4
        Are you the author of an article or something? I join those who send you to Syria. Swipe the contract and go ahead - for the interests of your country.
      2. Bashibuzuk
        Bashibuzuk 10 December 2015 11: 46
        0
        Actually, by the first order of the Supreme High Command, it is necessary to defend the Homeland in the first place,
        and not give life.
        Fuck, really, we need contract soldiers-samurai-hara-kiri, who will rip their belly up.
        Instead of defending the Fatherland.
        ...
        And as for the roadblocks, that’s all nonsense. It looks like Divansoldat, Anatoly. imagines a checkpoint such as the energy border - blow there, from there it is known that.
        Any checkpoint is just a sign that this territory is controlled in the afternoon us. And at night it’s not known by whom.
        ...
        The desire to stop reeling back and forth ... to announce the forbidden, MINED territories.
        Sprinkle Petals - and not a single bearded ass snoops there.
        If so, so that the abreks do not roam. And so that the transport does not go, you cannot go far on flat wheels.
        ...
        Nefig to the investigators there, in Syria, they are contract soldiers, if not.
        We have Ukraine at hand, it’s about to blaze.
    2. Al_oriso
      Al_oriso 10 December 2015 11: 56
      +1
      Our outposts will be cut out at night in a quiet (or loud, unimportant) manner, as was the case in Afghanistan.
      What will the Russians fight and die for? - Definitely not for the homeland.
  11. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 10 December 2015 11: 01
    +1
    Hmm .. claw bogged down - the whole bird abyss ...
  12. Lanista
    Lanista 10 December 2015 11: 03
    -6
    Why not? This operation will not require much effort, the exhaust is very significant.
    Optimally, it will not be used by the Russian Airborne Forces, but the Iranian IRGC to carry out this operation.
    1. 9o6peu
      9o6peu 10 December 2015 11: 09
      +2
      Which exhaust?
      Cargo 200?
      So that the liberals have something to raise the Maidan?
    2. Bashibuzuk
      Bashibuzuk 10 December 2015 11: 57
      0
      And the IRGC is actually the "guards of the Islamic revolution."
      It somehow turns out that the "Islamic guards" will straighten the Islamic adherents.
      ...
      It's time to end the bombing, bombing and rocket attacks. Expensive too. And to no avail.
      It's time to use volumetric blast ammunition, those proverbial "vacuum bombs".
      It's time to use the fireburn tactics.
      Well, who did not hide ... or even hid ... but did not screw far and for long - we warned.
      ...
      The second month ends with our actions.
      Perhaps only Strategic Missile Forces did not shoot back. And SSBNs.
      Lavrov said so - we will not use nuclear weapons.
      Well then what to expect then?
      Who wanted the experience already received.
      It is time to extinguish the spirits "already in earnest - to burn them out, to the delight of the houris. Now they will have more work.
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 December 2015 11: 03
    +7
    The author, as if not intrusive, but with the manners of a strategist, offers us to delve deeper into the Syrian conflict. To whom is this option profitable today, I think you don’t need to ask? In addition, the General Staff will figure out what is needed and what is not needed, and even harmful.
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 10 December 2015 11: 44
      +2
      No need to ask. It is necessary to calculate such, and as in Ukraine - turma or contract. And forward to the front. Deal to prove. And snot on the Internet at times will be less.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 10 December 2015 12: 07
        0
        This is a good measure, but unfortunately not feasible. It does not fall under the article yet, but as a contractor, such a man is fucking unnecessary. Therefore, it will develop "strategic" plans while sitting in the warmth at the computer.
  14. 9o6peu
    9o6peu 10 December 2015 11: 07
    +7
    Couch General.

    Papa Vova and Uncle Shoigu said that there would be no ground operation. So no, then no.
    I believe them, you don’t.
  15. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 10 December 2015 11: 07
    +1
    I just heard on the radio that one of the most famous drug lords in Mexico, Joaquin Archivaldo Guzman Loera, known as "El Chapo" ("El Chapo" - Shorty), has declared war on IS. He just flew into a rage when he learned that IS destroyed the drug caravan that belonged to him. At the same time, he said that he would not allow anyone to get into his "business" and promised that IS will fully reimburse him for the cost of the destroyed drugs.

    Pisi: We stock up on popcorn and will see ...
  16. prostofily
    prostofily 10 December 2015 11: 07
    -5
    And what is incorrectly written in the article? It seems to me that no one should ask the troops to fight or not. There will be an order, and he will be the only right decision for them by definition.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 10 December 2015 11: 13
      +2
      Quote: prostofily
      And what is incorrectly written in the article? I think that

      If it seemed, then cross yourself! It helps!
      1. prostofily
        prostofily 10 December 2015 11: 20
        -5
        No matter what happens, and at 41 someone thought.
    2. prostofily
      prostofily 10 December 2015 11: 27
      -3
      Those who put cons, and you are already a little scared.?
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 10 December 2015 11: 45
        +4
        No, we are smart. And we are well aware that such as you will fight only the maximum repost.
        1. Anisim1977
          Anisim1977 10 December 2015 12: 01
          -1
          Banshee, the idea with roadblocks is stupid, I agree.
          But what’s surprising is why we won’t supply Syria with BMPT in the right quantity, BAT2 armored and BAT (where armor is possible without armor), a unit for digging trenches (trucks should be stopped - not tanks), and BMP2, and different thorns, mines on minefields and other stray.
          Without a normal border service, as the border is beaten off - there really is a pipe.
          And they will find their own people when there will be enough equipment and ammunition with fuel.
        2. prostofily
          prostofily 10 December 2015 18: 20
          0
          Well, about mental capabilities, I did not offend anyone. And who are we like. Maybe your army is used to discuss orders, which was actually what we were talking about.
      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 10 December 2015 11: 46
        +1
        Quote: prostofily
        - Have you already been a little scared.?

        We are a little friends with the head .. I recommend - it is useful .. wassat
      3. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 10 December 2015 12: 47
        +1
        Quote: prostofily
        Those who put cons, and you are already a little scared.?


        In fact, a little need to think.
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    3. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 10 December 2015 13: 28
      0
      For prostofily
      In which regiment did you serve? ("12 chairs")
  17. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 10 December 2015 11: 16
    +6
    Such an adventure will end by cutting off the heads of our guys. Roadblocks in hostile territory are honey traps for all scum. It is only Rambo who can barely strangle a platoon of barmalei or with one machine gun - a battalion ... They will drag a few ATGMs and rip up any roadblock from a safe distance, and what remains will be finished and the picture will be uploaded to the network. The author should be invited to participate in such a matter.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 10 December 2015 11: 47
      +3
      You are absolutely right. Isolated roadblocks, even
      turned into forts - doomed. Defense needs to be done
      dense and deep enough - or not fit at all.
      1. prostofily
        prostofily 10 December 2015 18: 27
        0
        Why is it so long for the Turks to take these kilometers in depth and in width as if it were possible, that is, there are steep Rimbos.
    2. prostofily
      prostofily 10 December 2015 18: 52
      0
      For the mountain shooter separately, well, I don’t know the depth and I don’t want to watch 20-40 km. Who is there under the supervision of something dragging and gouging.?
  18. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 10 December 2015 11: 20
    +1
    Russian-Syrian border

    And this is not a typo, will be.
  19. gas113
    gas113 10 December 2015 11: 20
    0
    The forces of the Syrian army are very battered and the effectiveness of air strikes has decreased. Maybe it’s time to create an analogue of the foreign legion to train and let them keep it strong. I think a lot of people will go for the money.
  20. Wolka
    Wolka 10 December 2015 11: 21
    +1
    on the whole, the vision is correct, it’s clear to close the border between Syria and Turkey, about which intensive consultations are ongoing with the Persians, Iraq and the Kurds, but given the total length of 98 km and the terrain, this is not easy to do ...
  21. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 10 December 2015 11: 23
    -4
    I read your pearls ... 09332 in the City for 1.5 months there is no bath and sauna-- there is no water - a bucket a week - and there is a desert - I understand - our soldier will stand it all - you should not squander patience and yet I for entering our warheads there ... and if it flops in the capital and more than once, they do it right ...
    1. forest park 86
      forest park 86 10 December 2015 12: 51
      0
      campaign comrade delirious. and our first land operation in Syria (pilot revenue) was not very successful. if not for the Syrians with the Iranians then ...
  22. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 10 December 2015 11: 26
    +2
    There will be even more blood when this infection spreads all over the world, and there are prerequisites. And the choice is: Either now, with lesser blood, or then drowning in more! Unfortunately, history does not teach humanity anything. At one time, if Hitler had been crushed in his den, not allowing them to go beyond, at the cost of even a million lives, they would have saved the lives of tens of millions! And this question is not for Russia alone!
  23. Petrov the son
    Petrov the son 10 December 2015 11: 31
    +2
    Mr. Ivanko, where is the border with Syria? An interesting headline.
  24. russmensch
    russmensch 10 December 2015 11: 31
    0
    Damn, you sometimes read such articles and think - this is where "our Zhukovs, Suvorovs, Kutuzovs" find themselves, and not in the General Staff. There, strategists only understand in dachas, but real strategists are here ... And if such an opportunity was given, he would immediately win everything that is possible and that is not possible at the same time. But in real life - oh, and I doubt that I would have coped with the company in peacetime ... I will generally keep quiet about combat missions.
  25. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 10 December 2015 11: 33
    +4
    "The Center for Social Analytics is looking for 7-8 grade students to explain the geopolitical situation in Syria."
  26. ArcanAG
    ArcanAG 10 December 2015 11: 36
    +1
    Why does the author not propose to do the same with the help of the Syrian troops?
    Why does he need us to start a ground operation?
  27. zgd_se_1955
    zgd_se_1955 10 December 2015 11: 36
    0
    I myself would have shaken antiquity to kick the ass of the Turks ..
  28. shura7782
    shura7782 10 December 2015 11: 37
    +1
    It is necessary to help the Syrian army to create these road posts and cover them from the air. It's too early to talk about a land company.
  29. Alexzora
    Alexzora 10 December 2015 11: 41
    +2
    How many times have they repeated:
    "Go and defend your land !!" , and do not run around Europe with an outstretched hand, like beggars.
    let all those who sit in the refugee camps near Erdogan return to the territory controlled by the SAR.
    And then the eternal problem: "We ourselves sold our country for beads, and now the Russians come and save Us, but then don't teach us to live correctly, we want to step on the same rake again."
    1. shura7782
      shura7782 10 December 2015 11: 58
      0
      It must be understood that those who sit at Erdogan will not fight on the side of Assad. Now, those who waved to Europe - they saw this whole war in a coffin.
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  30. uhu189
    uhu189 10 December 2015 11: 46
    0
    The situation is deadlock - aviation cannot solve the problem, but it is also impossible to deploy ground troops, because it means getting into the conflict even deeper for the joy of the Americans. At the same time, there are no meaningful goals of the company, there are no criteria by which to determine the achievement of these goals either. Classic zugzwang. We intervene in the 2012 year - everything would be different, but why say something now ...
  31. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 10 December 2015 11: 46
    0
    The author is right in one-border with Turkey must be blocked,
    moreover, the forces that are engaged in a real fight against IS, are interested in this, to which Turkey certainly does not belong. For Turkey, the IG is the main force to achieve the goal of capturing part of Syria.
    Therefore, the issue of blocking the border should be decided by Syrian forces, otherwise the Turks will occupy the border part and the fight against IS will be ineffective.
  32. Victor62ru
    Victor62ru 10 December 2015 11: 54
    +2
    Interestingly, and the author would not want to send his own children to these very barrage posts?
  33. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 10 December 2015 12: 07
    +2
    The idea is good, only it is necessary to place not our landing force, but the Syrian special forces, equipped to the very throat with the most modern Russian technology.
  34. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 10 December 2015 12: 10
    0
    December 10, 2015 Washington Times Original
    Washington Times: Putin hinted to NATO that his missiles could be nuclear

    Original news InoTV:
    https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2015-12-10/Washington-Times-Putin-nameknul-NATO

    By the way, I noticed yesterday, but did not attach much importance.
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  37. 31rus
    31rus 10 December 2015 12: 14
    0
    Dear, minus, but the author of the rights without blocking the border or at least round-the-clock patrolling of an UAV with air support (you can't fly), the replenishment of the militants cannot be blocked, in addition, this is the possibility of transferring militants to other regions (Ukraine, Africa), which is already being carried out, but the problem is that this is only a part, as soon as we show ourselves there all the forces of the militants will be there, and even provocations from the Turkish side, it seems to me it is better to fortify at the air bases, strengthening the contingent, may try to strike by planes with the subsequent by "cleaning" with turntables, and the Syrians will complete with artillery, tanks and infantry
  38. Neophyte
    Neophyte 10 December 2015 12: 16
    +1
    There should be no ground operation! Put up-to-date armament for the ATS, add experienced instructors and continue bombing the bandits!
  39. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 10 December 2015 12: 16
    0
    The CIA warned Turkey of the threat of terrorist attacks against Russians
    http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/12/10/783005.html
    Rinse off guys from Turkey. It becomes dangerous.
  40. JonnyT
    JonnyT 10 December 2015 12: 24
    0
    why such difficulties? let’s then let’s hit on Turkey, Qatar and other shoble .......

    To be honest, this is more like breaking a network hamster in frames of battles on the network. show them
  41. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 10 December 2015 12: 25
    0
    It is unrealistic to close the border - there are both the Turks and ISIS fighters.
    It is unrealistic to break roads - the goal is too small and they are easily restored.
    Fuel trucks bomb - mosquitoes in a forest spank.
    It remains to destroy the mining stations, processing plants, gas stations and the like. But this is also disadvantageous. After the war, everything will have to be rebuilt.

    The only solution is Assad’s army, which is supposed to clean up the land. However, this army is small, poorly armed and suffers losses. There are still Kurds, but who knows what they have in mind.

    The situation is unenviable. Drastic measures are needed, I hope they will be found.
  42. Signaller
    Signaller 10 December 2015 12: 29
    +1
    I’m really stupid. After all, someone needs to kill ISIS. ??? To whom ????. Like if you send the ground component, everything is out and minus the minus to those who offer it and see the pitfalls. And if aviation does not solve the problem. And what to do ????
    As comrade Zadov used to say, well, you remember the ensign- "You need to shake." So ours are shaking, only the coconut does not fall off. You need to shake for a long time, oh long.
  43. Evil 55
    Evil 55 10 December 2015 12: 34
    0
    A completely illiterate and provocative article ... 98 km. In a foreign country, with alien traditions and foreign beliefs, next to Turkey, which sleeps and sees how else to annoy Russia ... These are about 3 ground brigades with reinforcement means, completely incomprehensible logistics supply routes and dozens of "two hundredths" daily ...
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  45. MT266
    MT266 10 December 2015 12: 47
    +1
    We must do this and faster, otherwise the war will be endless!
  46. Anisim1977
    Anisim1977 10 December 2015 12: 48
    0
    And you also have to finish the Palestine-Israel mess, and actively involve the Palestinians in a holy war with the Iblis and their allies. How many mosques destroyed Israel, and how many Daesh? Is this not a reason for Iran to actively pull up the Palestinian groups to help Assad?
    Damn it already. I'm not a fan of Israel - but there are 1/3 of our former Soviet Union and you can safely come to the country knowing only your native Russian language.
    What they have in essence graters with Palestinians, trifles on a global scale. You can give Israel what they want there on the territory, compensate Palestinian losses with a piece empty from Iraq or Syria, destroyed and Israel will finance them to restore this land to its normal state. Syria or Iraq will give this land autonomy.
    How much can this free for a good war, well-trained and evil fighters.
    The game is on a large scale - therefore, it is necessary to play on a large scale. And the borders of Syria must be sealed from the neighbors in any way.
    It is also possible for future travelers to Syria (no matter what nationality) at the first stage to give a salary in rubles from Russia in a reasonable amount by Syrian standards - for us it is a penny, and it will give quite a lot of use. When I heard on TV how much they pay in Oh, the free Syrian army to the lieutenant is roughly Ibliskom - there something came out with lire in the amount of 1000r per month. Here and pay them 1,5 rates - normal for the location.
  47. megadeth
    megadeth 10 December 2015 13: 02
    +1
    I completely agree. Ours warn of departures, and the Americans merge their coalition (Turkey), then we are surprised that we get a stab in the back.
  48. vo3
    vo3 10 December 2015 13: 39
    +1
    I support the idea with strong points, or rather artillery bases. You can’t fly by airplanes. Create an information field over a 98km hole on the border and roads to Turkey and shoot everything that moves. No patrols. Unmanned aerial vehicles, stationary means and airships, satellites - to create an information and computer target designation center. And to shoot everything up to meters from the Turkish border is better with outdated ammunition. Learn to fight in a modern way.
  49. komynist
    komynist 10 December 2015 14: 37
    +1
    In this war there are Russian interests, but first of all these are the interests of the Syrians. So let them fight on the ground at the block of posts, etc. But we already look at the interests of our country will have to fight, protect our land and children. So we are saving our human resources for us, and so with our lives, it is becoming less and less without war.
  50. rJIiOK
    rJIiOK 10 December 2015 14: 42
    0
    "It seems expedient and necessary to begin to block the 98-kilometer 'corridor' on the border with Turkey"

    For some people, Afghanistan does not teach anything. You can't "Fight a little" or "Get pregnant a little".
    first 3 checkpoints, then they will need to be covered with mobile artillery. Then "In view of the successes of the limited contingent, it is advisable to expand the zone of influence." 3 checkpoints -> company -> battalion -> regiment.

    And the accidental death of the guys from a stray bullet or a fragment? I suggest that the author join the PMC, if you really want to.

    And then a crazy shell will fly from Turkey with long-range artillery. And NATO will say: oh, joint exercises were on, the mistake came out.