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Syrian takeoff of Russian aviation

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Syrian takeoff of Russian aviation



Russia continues to be active in the framework of opposition to the “Islamic State” (the activities of the Islamic State are prohibited on the territory of Russia). According to the beginning of November, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation began to interact with the moderate Syrian opposition, which affected the effectiveness and accuracy of attacks on terrorists. The oppositionists transmitted to VKS the coordinates of two dozen objects where they found the militants of the IG.

HQS 30.09 Russia. 2015 of the year inflicted the first air strikes on the positions of the “Islamic State” (IG) in Syria in response to a request from the President of that country, Bashar al-Assad, which does not contradict international law. It permits the use of force on the territory of a foreign state either by decision of the UN Security Council, either in self-defense, or at the request of the authorities of that state.

As of 30 aviation A group of Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria completed an average of 43 sorties per day. “A month has passed since the beginning of the operations of the Russian air group in the ATS, and it is time to take stock. In just a month, our planes completed 1391 sorties, destroying 1623 terrorist targets, ”said Colonel-General Andrei Kartapolov, chief of the main operations department of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces.

According to him, this number includes 249 various command and control centers and communications centers, 51 training camp for terrorists, 35 factories and workshops, where terrorists filled hellish vehicles with explosives, 131 ammunition and fuel depot, and 371 strong point and fortified hub and 786 field camps and various bases. For comparison: Coalition Air Force more than a year carried out about 2770 combat missions.

The peak of the combat activity of the Russian aviation group in Syria fell on 12. 10. 2015 of the year, when 88 sorties were flown within 24 hours and attacks on IG 86 objects were made. Almost three sorties per day on average for one strike aircraft of the aviation group.

After the peak of combat activity 12. 10. 2015, there has been a slight decrease in flight intensity. Between 13 and 18. 10. The 2015 of the year was carried out daily from 33 to 41 sorties, which led some Western media to doubt the ability of the Russian aviation group in Syria to maintain a high intensity of flights due to inadequate logistics and deterioration of the condition of the aircraft.

The Russian defense ministry in a press release from 28. 10. 2015 of the year stated: “The number of combat sorties has increased, this is due to an increase in the number of militants' terrorist infrastructure targets that have been explored and confirmed through various channels. This fact is a convincing response to various impersonal sources in certain foreign media, allowing themselves to make unsubstantiated statements about the allegedly insufficient technical integrity of Russian aircraft. Russian aircraft at Khmeimim airbase are all-weather, all support services of the air crew of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria are working smoothly, reliably and efficiently.

Analyzing the work methods of our foreign colleagues on this topic and not waiting for their next throw, we inform you: we have sufficient supplies of materials, fuel and lubricants, ammunition and everything necessary for effective combat operations. ”

AND POWER, AND ACCURACY

The combat personnel of the aviation group OTA VKS of Russia, based at the Khmeimim airbase (Latakia province), includes about 34 combat aircraft: 12 Su-24М, 12 Su-25, 6 Su-34М. Percussion tasks are performed by Su-4M, Su-30 and Su-24, the task of combat support for air defense of the attack groups is performed by Su-25СМ.

The Su-34 front-line bomber is one of the “combat horses” of the Syrian operation, produced by Sukhoi, which is part of the United Aircraft Building Corporation (UAC). Production of aircraft is carried out in Novosibirsk at the Plant. Chkalov. On October 28, the Sukhoi Company transferred the next batch of Su-34 to the Russian Space Forces, provided for by the 2015 State Defense Order of the year. The aircraft took off from the airfield of the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant named. V.P. Chkalov and headed to the place of their deployment. The “presentation” of Su-34 in Syria allows Novosibirsk residents to count on replenishing their portfolio of foreign contracts. This year, the plant will produce 16 combat aircraft and, judging by the statement of the vice-governor of the Novosibirsk region Sergey Semy, will increase volumes in the near future. “Our enterprises today are working without disruption. Plans for the next year are a small relative increase in comparable estimates at the level of 3 – 4%, ”said Sergey Syomka.

Today, the Novosibirsk Aviation Plant operates with maximum efficiency. A state contract with the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation for the supply of Su-34 video conferencing of the Russian Federation to 2020 ensures its stable load for the coming years. Last year, the VKS of Russia received 18 combat vehicles, which is two more than those planned by the State Defense Order, according to the Sukhoi company website. By the end of this year, the aerospace forces (VKS) of Russia will receive two batches (which will be about 10 units) of the Su-34 multi-purpose front bomber, Interfax reported, citing a source in the defense-industrial complex.

The main method of combat use of the Su-24M and Su-34 is bombing from horizontal flight from altitudes around 5000 m outside the zone of destruction of military air defense weapons, primarily ZSU and MANPADS. Su-25 carries out combat use and diving, based on the video information on the website of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

The Su-30CM heavy multipurpose fighter-bomber is a “serial upgraded” aircraft for the Russian VKS, which was initially shipped to India under the Su-30MKI brand. The 2015 KLA and Irkutsk Aviation Plant are planning to supply the Ministry of Defense 27 machines. In Syria, the Su-30CM is a bit - about four units, which is due to the concept of covering the aerial bombers, even though the IG does not have aircraft. However, no one can guarantee the appearance of a "crazy" terrorist-fighter. Or some of the states will decide to restrain the activity of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria. Moreover, the Su-30CM itself is a bomber, but the main role in the Syrian operation is still likely to be a cover. It was the crew of the Su-30SM that made the first “contact” with an American aircraft in the sky of Syria. October 10 “when advancing to a given area, the radiation warning system with which all of our aircraft are equipped recorded radiation from an unknown flying object. Our fighter turned and flew at a distance of about two or three kilometers not to scare someone, but to identify the object and its affiliation. After that, the Russian Su-30CM returned to the militant group to carry out the planned task, ”said Igor Konashenkov, an official representative of the Russian Ministry of Defense, to journalists. According to him, the meeting of the aircraft occurred when a group of Russian cars under the guise of a Su-30SM fighter plane was carrying out a combat mission to destroy one of the objects of the IG terrorist group in the province of Aleppo.

In general, it should be noted that our industry plays a significant role in updating the equipment of the Russian army - for example, over the past three to four years, more than 200 new aircraft, the Yak-130, Su-30СМ, Su-34 and Su-35С, were supplied to the troops.

In peak of Russia, Western experts note that the Coalition's air force has used more than 20 000 units of aviation weapons of destruction (TSA) for the year since the start of the operation in Iraq and Syria, the proportion of high-precision weapons (WTO) amounted to 99%, and the Russians use “stupid” bombs with low accuracy of combat use, creating great destruction and accompanied by great casualties.

OFAB-100 and OFAB-200 unguided free-falling bombs, RBC-500-SPBE-D cluster, thermobaric ODAB-500PMB and concrete-blocking BETAB-500 M62 are the prevailing share of the VKS of Russia used by the TSA of Russia. However, in most Western media, although there is a criticism of the accuracy indicators of the combat use of unguided bombs, no specific facts are given.

In fact, this indicates that the improvement of onboard weapons control systems (FCS) of front-line bombers in terms of the use of unguided bombs brought positive results. The deviation when using uncontrollable bombs from the horizon from heights of about 5000 m with Su-34 is 25 – 50 m, which for an 250 kg stockpile means almost guaranteed target destruction. The increased capabilities of the Russian videoconferencing with regard to the use of the WTO, for example, X-25L laser guided radar, and especially the CAB-500С with GLONASS satellite guidance, are noted. Until now, in the West, it was believed that the backlog of Russia in the creation of modern models of the WTO, primarily with satellite guidance such as the American JDAM program, is more than 20 years.

COALITION IS NOT AN EXAMPLE

It is clear that the share of the use of new WTO models in Syria compared to unmanaged TSA is small, but the very fact of their presence and successful combat use from modernized and new Su-34-type air complexes indicates not only a rather impressive manifestation of the new Russian military potential conditions, but also about success in efforts to increase the combat capabilities of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in recent years - including the level of training of pilots.

Despite all the criticism, the Russian VKS showed their ability to maintain a high intensity of combat missions throughout the month, high reliability and accuracy of combat use, unlike the Coalition, which did not achieve visible results in the fight against ISIS for more than a year.

Coalition of countries led by the US with 23. 09. 2014 strikes positions (IS) in Syria bypassing the UN Security Council and does not coordinate with the Syrian authorities. From the first days of the air operation in Syria, together with the United States, the air forces of Bahrain, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates took part in combat missions. The Air Force of Canada for the first time attacked the positions of the IG in Syria 08. 04. 2015, Turkey - 24. 07. 2015 of the Year, Australia - 16. 09. 2015 of the Year, France - 27. 09. 2015 of the year.

As of 26. 10. From the beginning of the air operation against the IG 2015, combat missions, including 7802 in Iraq and 5032 in Syria, were executed by the US Air Force and Coalition countries 2770 of the year. Prior to the start of the air operation, the 30 airspace of Russia 09. 2015 of the Year The Coalition made 7184 combat sorties, including 4604 in Iraq and 2580 in Syria, an average of 13 daily sorties in Iraq and 8 in Syria. The intensity of the Coalition flights with the start of the air operation of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria as of 26. 10. 2015 of the year decreased from 8 to 3,6 departure daily. For comparison: in 1991, for the 42 day of the Desert Storm operation in Iraq, the USAF and Coalition countries carried out 48 224 combat sorties, or 1100 sorties per day!

In 2003, for the 31 day, Operation Freedom for Iraq, the USAF and Coalition countries carried out 800 flights per day. In 1999, the operation in Kosovo - 138 departures, in 2001, in Afghanistan, according to the Taliban grouping - 86 departures.

The ratio of the number of combat sorties of the US Air Force and the Air Force of the Coalition countries in air operations as of 6. 10. The 2015 of the Year is presented on the Pentagon website: a total of 7323 combat sorties have been made, including 4701 in Iraq and 2622 in Syria. The US Air Force carried out 5718 combat missions (78,1%), including 3231 (68,7%) in Iraq and 2487 (94,6%) in Syria. The rest of the Coalition's Air Force carried out 1605 combat missions (21,9%), including 1470 (31,3) in Iraq and only 135 (5,4%) in Syria. The low intensity of the sorties raises the question of the Coalition’s insufficient interest in effectively fighting the IS.

Of the widely advertised Coalition in the number of more than 60 countries supporting US military operations against ISIS on the territory of Syria, the air forces of eight countries are directly taking part in combat operations to destroy targets and IS personnel. For example, the Canadian Air Force for the first time attacked IG positions in Syria 08. 04. 2015 of the year. In the future, two combat sorties of CF-18 fighters on the territory of Syria were made once a month: 20. 05. 2015 of the year, 09. 06. 2015 of the year and 30. 07. 2015 of the year. A total of eight sorties. With 30. 07. 2015, the sorties of the Canadian Air Force through Syria were not carried out.

Moreover, after winning 19. 10. 2015 of the year in the parliamentary elections in Canada, the opposition has announced the termination of the participation of the Air Force of Canada in operations in Iraq and Syria since March 2016. French Air Force first strike on the IG in Syria dealt 27. 09. 2015 of the year, and the second only 19. 10. 2015 of the year.

The Coalition Air Force did not achieve significant success on the territory of Syria for more than a year of the air operation due to its unwillingness to interact with the Syrian government forces and the absence of other effective forces capable of effectively countering the IS.

The striking of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria is not an end in itself; they are carried out primarily with the aim of defeating the troops and IG facilities to create conditions for the advancement of Syrian government troops and the liberation of their territory. Successes in advancing Syrian government forces and the liberation of a number of areas and settlements are obvious. Even Western experts admit that this has become possible in many respects after effective combat operations of the Russian Aerospace Forces.
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  1. izya top
    izya top 15 November 2015 15: 45 New
    68
    what can I say ... our flyers of the praises deserve fellowhowever, like reconnaissance, and air defense and many, many related
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 15 November 2015 15: 46 New
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      Quote: iza top
      what can I say ... our flyers of the praises deserve fellowhowever, like reconnaissance, and air defense and many, many related

      Do not forget about gunsmiths.
      1. katalonec2014
        katalonec2014 15 November 2015 15: 54 New
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        No doubt they are heroes, but for the sake of justice, let us recall the material support unit, all the same, the operation takes place far from our shores. To provide the group with everything necessary deserves the highest praise, this is what the Americans did, and in particular Russia’s inability to provide supplies to the Belligerent Air Force, they were just sure that without the Mistral, Russia would not succeed ... but no.
        1. 34 region
          34 region 15 November 2015 16: 21 New
          +1
          And why do we need Mistral? Use as a transport?
          1. sergeybulkin
            sergeybulkin 15 November 2015 17: 17 New
            +2
            And why do we need Mistral? Use as a transport?

            Misral, Misral, they sailed to Egypt. And in general, it may sound beautiful in French, but in human - in Russian, it’s just a decent curse. Let the Egyptians float on this curse .... As you name the trough, it will float.
            1. cniza
              cniza 15 November 2015 17: 23 New
              +2
              [quote = sergeybulkin] [quote] As the trough call it, it will float. [/ quote]


              Something depends on the name, but the main work is done by man, and our pilots, technical staff and all the fighters are great.
              1. Aleksey_K
                Aleksey_K 15 November 2015 18: 56 New
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                [quote = cniza] [quote = sergeybulkin] [quote] As you name it, it will float. [/ quote] [/ quote]
                Mistral is a cold northerly and very strong wind. The name is normal and quite consistent with the purpose of its use. Your lack of knowledge of languages ​​does not determine how the "trough" will walk and not float.
                1. Sober
                  Sober 15 November 2015 23: 23 New
                  0
                  Thanks for the info. But, I think, here come off on the euphonies of the name for our ear. Ah, respect and plus to you.
                2. sergeybulkin
                  sergeybulkin 15 November 2015 23: 32 New
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                  Your lack of knowledge of languages ​​does not determine how the "trough" will walk and not float.
                  Hey.
                  My ignorance of languages ​​that, in general, I don’t want to know, does not by itself determine how these two troughs will Float, it’s a pity only for the unfortunate Egyptians, bought in three road two mountains of metal ...
                  And the fact that the ships are bad - this can be seen from far away ...
                  1. SSR
                    SSR 16 November 2015 01: 30 New
                    +5
                    Quote: sergeybulkin
                    Your lack of knowledge of languages ​​does not determine how the "trough" will walk and not float.
                    Hey.
                    My ignorance of languages ​​that, in general, I don’t want to know, does not by itself determine how these two troughs will Float, it’s a pity only for the unfortunate Egyptians, bought in three road two mountains of metal ...
                    And the fact that the ships are bad - this can be seen from far away ...

                    Yokarny Babai! Where have you been before ?! From far away you see what the Russian Defense Ministry did not see at first and then the Egyptian Defense Ministry .... Exactly at least the Egyptians should invite you to the post of Minister of Defense ..... How can you miss such a far-sighted?!))))
                  2. igorka357
                    igorka357 16 November 2015 05: 44 New
                    +2
                    By the way, so if that, for the future .. The French school of shipbuilding is one of the best on the planet!
                  3. ver_
                    ver_ 17 November 2015 12: 25 New
                    +1
                    ... as bought, so they can sell ...
                3. igorka357
                  igorka357 16 November 2015 05: 42 New
                  +2
                  Ha ha .. surely Sergeygulkin just doesn’t see the essence ... blurted out the wag and that’s all! And about walking troughs, and not swimming, too, to the point, plus!
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            3. Sterlya
              Sterlya 15 November 2015 18: 06 New
              +9
              Quote: sergeybulkin
              Misral, Misral, they sailed to Egypt. And in general, it may sound beautiful in French, but in human - in Russian, it’s just a decent curse.

              Seems to translate as North wind? Or am I mistaken?
              Well, figs with him, with the wind, In case they got it, they would probably have suffered with them. It is necessary to service the ship. And would you impose sanctions on the supply of everything that is needed unambiguously, but to arrange production at home, because of 2 troughs ?! In short, depending on whom in military affairs, this is a complete northern fur animal (My opinion)
            4. Aleksey_K
              Aleksey_K 15 November 2015 18: 51 New
              +8
              Quote: sergeybulkin
              Misral, Misral, they sailed to Egypt. And in general, it may sound beautiful in French, but in human - in Russian, it’s just a decent curse.

              Something I don't remember in Russian the word "misral". And in France the word "Mistral" means a strong cold wind. If you find fault with all the words, the word "Russian" is pronounced in English like "rasha". And "WHAT"? Can we not be called RUSSIAN now? So these are just your, depending on your imagination, associations. We do not need to impose them.
              1. mirag2
                mirag2 15 November 2015 20: 14 New
                -4
                The holiday comes to us, Syria))):
                1. 222222
                  222222 15 November 2015 21: 40 New
                  +9
                  How America is fighting ISIS Cool cartoon
                  ..or people understand and .. jokes ..
                  1. igorka357
                    igorka357 16 November 2015 05: 45 New
                    0
                    Do not need button accordions!
              2. Sober
                Sober 15 November 2015 23: 26 New
                +2
                In general, I agree with you! I will try to follow my thoughts.
                Quote: Алексей_К
                depending on your imagination, association. No need to impose them on us.
            5. starwars
              starwars 18 November 2015 11: 16 New
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              THESE ARE TURNED.
        2. PQ-18
          PQ-18 15 November 2015 21: 16 New
          -1
          they were just sure that without the Mistral, Russia would not succeed ... but no.

          on these Mistrals, we .. "put"! fellow
          (I ask the site-business to enter the CORRESPONDING "generally accepted Russian gesture (smile) - left arm bent at the elbow (with a fist) with the edge of the palm chopping it off - right)
        3. Sober
          Sober 15 November 2015 23: 20 New
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          Quote: katalonec2014
          We are sure that without the Mistral, Russia will not succeed ... but no.

          And we are on the Mistral .... Sorry for the pun!
        4. Alexey-74
          Alexey-74 16 November 2015 10: 10 New
          +3
          We wish all our military in Syria and further successes in the fight against ISIS and all return home safe and sound
      2. Simon
        Simon 15 November 2015 16: 18 New
        +9
        And do not forget about Russia. Russia was created so that the world would be on earth.
        1. Talgat
          Talgat 15 November 2015 17: 01 New
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          Quote: Simon
          Russia was created so that the world would be on earth.


          Well, I would not generalize so far, I think. Russia's role is rather a peace in Eurasia, and its integration and protection

          By the way, pay attention to the signing of many regular agreements with Iran, it seems. that after our republic of Kazakhstan, Russia makes the right choice - and becomes a full-fledged ally of our neighbor from the south

          I note that Kazakhstan began a course towards rapprochement and cooperation with Iran many years ago, despite the United States, etc. The construction of the same railway began long ago, and at the end of last year it was solemnly put into operation (both Rouhani and our Nazarbayev arrived launched together) - most likely it was agreed with Putin - like you start - and then we will catch up

          Now. I must admit. due to all this, the IRI is no longer available for sanctions and blockades from the sea (according to the railway KZ of the Russian Federation and China they will supply everything that is needed). Russia also entered the war with Syria on the side of Iran, and there the first target is the same Iran. Thus, the Iranians should simply pray and thank Allah that they have Kazakhstan and Russia from the north and somewhere China. In general, Iranians owe us all a lot

          Otherwise, the United States and Israel would not leave anything from Iran.

          We all need Iran only as a "cover" of the Caspian Sea, as a friendly neighbor, shielding us all from geopolitical opponents from the south. Therefore, it is more profitable for all of us, both Turkmens and KZ and the Russian Federation to fight for Iran than later for the Caspian
          1. 222222
            222222 15 November 2015 17: 24 New
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            "" The United States has provided irrefutable evidence that Russia is conducting a ground operation in Syria " laughing
            1. izya top
              izya top 15 November 2015 17: 55 New
              +8
              Quote: 222222
              "The United States has provided irrefutable evidence that Russia is conducting a ground operation in Syria"

              no, it's Svidomo troops roaming there belay
          2. 222222
            222222 15 November 2015 17: 30 New
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            Taagad 13.11.2015/22/00 XNUMX:XNUMX PM

            “People are saying that you automatically minus the Israeli flag. So do not blame me: the black list ... "

            I received three "anonymous" letters. I answer openly ... ... "Leopold, come out ...."

            . Firstly ... not “YOU” and you .. I didn’t drink a vodka with you and I won’t drink. Secondly. How many customs have taken, be yourself polite!

            1.. You have the right to have an opinion. And do everything you want as part of the rules of the site. Uh This is your full right..NO. WHEN GUTARAT.TO ..
            2. Your judgment is not based on anything.
            3. For your information. -Likes with minuses I try not to set at all. since I respect any opinion with respect.

            4. In Israel, Israel would be stronger (and Libya would have been in that format) Europe would now be easier Nationality for me does not play any role in every nation and people more good people.
            hi
        2. Sober
          Sober 15 November 2015 23: 29 New
          0
          Quote: Simon
          Russia was created so that the world would be on earth.

          Sir, Simon! This is an extremely important and correct thought. Sorry, I can’t put 1000 pluses
      3. veksha50
        veksha50 15 November 2015 16: 52 New
        +6
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Do not forget about gunsmiths.



        In general, about all the people who ensure the continuity of these flights ... How often are they undeservedly forgotten ...
    2. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 15 November 2015 15: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: iza top
      what can I say ... our flyers of the praises deserve fellowhowever, like reconnaissance, and air defense and many, many related

      Do not forget about gunsmiths.
      1. Simon
        Simon 15 November 2015 16: 23 New
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        Do not forget about our president, who pulled the country out after Gorbachev's and Yeltsin's "breakup perestroika", after which Russia began to rise.
    3. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 15 November 2015 15: 47 New
      +8
      The participation of our group of forces in Syria shows the capabilities of weapons and soldiers. The visiting card of the renewed Russian army and the defense industry complex. Well, an advertising campaign for potential buyers, a warning to "partners" at the same time.
    4. vovanpain
      vovanpain 15 November 2015 15: 58 New
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      Quote: iza top
      what can I say ... our flyers of the praises deserve fellowhowever, like reconnaissance, and air defense and many, many related

      That's right.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 15 November 2015 16: 24 New
        +9
        And where else is a piece of the phrase? Russian Aerospace Forces! Delivery of our products to anywhere in the world! Fast, reliable, high quality! laughing
      2. Vita vko
        Vita vko 15 November 2015 17: 14 New
        28

        Real sniper shooting at terrorists.
        1. Zefr
          Zefr 15 November 2015 18: 23 New
          +7
          It seems to me that someone began to scream in falsetto after the explosion. What is it for?
          1. Lieutenant colonel
            Lieutenant colonel 16 November 2015 02: 43 New
            +5
            Probably "bells" flew off - will now sing in the Ishilov boys' choir))))
    5. Tor5
      Tor5 15 November 2015 16: 05 New
      +8
      Take off ... well deservedly!
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    7. 79807420129
      79807420129 15 November 2015 16: 08 New
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      As all the same, everything worked perfectly and the VKS and all support services and logistics and everyone involved in the operation, special thanks to everyone who produces our aircraft and weapons, excellent analytics from Roman Smirnov, in short, keep it that way.
    8. w3554152
      w3554152 15 November 2015 18: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: izya top
      what can I say ... our flyers of the praises deserve it, however, like reconnaissance, air defense and many, many related


      Didn't you go to school? The beginning of a sentence in Russian is written with a capital letter. Finishing the thought, a point is put. You cannot cut the branch on which you are sitting, Izya. Or are you passing through Russia? How this civil war with the Russian language has already got it! And this familiarity from the master's shoulder: "What can I say ... flyers ... praises and some accompanying ones ..." In the aviation of the Aerospace Forces, not flyers, but combat pilots serve. A fat minus for such a post.
    9. self-propelled
      self-propelled 15 November 2015 18: 48 New
      +5
      Quote: izya top
      what can I say ... our flyers of the praises deserve it, however, like reconnaissance, air defense and many, many related

      take the above - Russia has shown that it can independently act outside its borders and defend its interests (regardless of the cries and protests of the "great democrats"). if the Americans themselves are howling that the Russian army has recently seriously added in equipment and training ...
      do not wake a sleeping bear (especially if you do not have a plan on how to drive him back to the den)
  2. yan 2015
    yan 2015 15 November 2015 15: 46 New
    10
    The Syrian take-off of Russian aviation was a matter of time and it came.
  3. vorobey
    vorobey 15 November 2015 15: 47 New
    17
    And where is that yesterday’s comrade from the star of David who proved the success of calolitia ...

    I would like to listen ...
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 15 November 2015 15: 52 New
      +9
      yan 2015 RU  Today, 15:46 New


      The Syrian take-off of Russian aviation was a matter of time and it came.

      There is no professor for you :) Here comes and will not leave a stone on a stone :)
      1. yan 2015
        yan 2015 15 November 2015 15: 55 New
        0
        while the people have the spirit of a warrior. he is invincible.
        1. yan 2015
          yan 2015 15 November 2015 18: 47 New
          +2
          I have joy .. the flag was returned ..
      2. Baikonur
        Baikonur 15 November 2015 16: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: guzik007
        There is no professor on you :)
        Invite the entire "list", pzhalsta! laughing
    2. katalonec2014
      katalonec2014 15 November 2015 16: 07 New
      +2
      Hi Sasha, can you share how it turned out that the moderator was demoted, the case is really unique.
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 15 November 2015 17: 34 New
        0
        katalonec2014 RU  Today, 16:07 ↑


        Hi Sasha, can you share how it happened that the moderator was demoted, it hurts a unique case

        I'm afraid to ask, is it really a combat cheburashka :( ??
        1. katalonec2014
          katalonec2014 15 November 2015 17: 48 New
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          No, the question was addressed to Sparrow, but apparently ...
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  4. CRONOS
    CRONOS 15 November 2015 15: 53 New
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    Syrian takeoff of Russian aviation
    As already got these winning reports
    And if there are no verses, then the most interesting thing is to come, when they are scattered and will not keep weapons in one place and more than three are stacked. And the real partisanism will go. It’s too early to rattle fanfares.
    1. katalonec2014
      katalonec2014 15 November 2015 16: 01 New
      +6
      If they break up into small detachments, then the Syrian army will also be easier to beat them, again our rotorcraft will hunt well.
      Be that as it may, the operation is too early to turn off, it is better to hammer them there than at home.
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 15 November 2015 16: 25 New
        +4
        Quote: katalonec2014
        , and the operation is early to collapse,


        Liberashka-du Raska does not understand that ISIS can carry out its tasks only with large arrays of terrorists: the number disappears - the goal leaves, their ideology rests only on mass character.
    2. Alexei
      Alexei 15 November 2015 16: 06 New
      +6
      Quote: CRONOS
      And the real partisanism will go. It’s too early to rattle fanfares.

      Partisanism is terrible in vast territorial open spaces, where there are many forests, mountains, fields and rivers (which Syria cannot boast of).
      Quote: CRONOS
      they will be dispersed and will not hold weapons in one place and be stacked for more than three.
      At this very moment, the war waged by ISIS will be lost. Yes, they will shoot and blow up a few more years, scare them, but they will not control anything.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 15 November 2015 16: 41 New
        +1
        ISIS war will be lost if they do not supply grandmothers and weapons. In the meantime, we really bomb innocent American bucks there. I don’t know how it will be successful. They can print bucks in any quantity. Weapons in warehouses are full. The question here is rather whose economy is stronger. Can we grind that amount of money and technology or not. All wars are battles of economies. If you destroyed the scientific, technical and production potential, you won. Here in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya today there is no science and production. They are defeated countries. So it is here. Can we ruin our competitors? I believe our costs are less than Amer’s on ISIS. Although they probably cover part of the costs from drugs and other smuggling.
    3. Simon
      Simon 15 November 2015 16: 28 New
      +4
      What kind of partisanship is there, troops without supplies, communications and command and control - this is a herd of sheep.
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 16 November 2015 05: 59 New
        0
        But don’t tell me, in the Second World War many partisan detachments were without supplies, operated with captured weapons and supplied themselves, and let’s say so ... acted quite successfully, it was then that they began to organize them into a single command!
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 16 November 2015 14: 09 New
          0
          But don’t tell me, in the Second World War many partisan detachments were without supplies, operated with captured weapons and supplied themselves, and let’s say so ... acted quite successfully, it was then that they began to organize them into a single command!

          it is necessary to check who is right - the "partners" are considering the option of transition of the "moderate" to guerrilla warfare; for this, forests will be transferred to the desert for caches, and for now the guerrilla units will bury them in the sand. Our aviation is simply obliged to help "partners" in this honorable business repeat
    4. 34 region
      34 region 15 November 2015 16: 28 New
      0
      We have enough of our partisans in power. And all in the manual. How else will they behave? They’ll cover up accounts abroad and wriggle differently.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 November 2015 15: 54 New
    +1
    Videoconferencing performed so successfully that you want to shout "Bis". The "partners" were depressed. And it is right.
  6. Nymp
    Nymp 15 November 2015 15: 57 New
    +8
    The coalition of countries in the main with the USA reminds me of the company of the fiddler from the TV show "DOM 2". ONE SHOW. But as soon as Russia achieves a result, these clowns will appropriate the laurels for themselves. Isn't that what is happening now with the outcome of the Second World War?
  7. V.ic
    V.ic 15 November 2015 15: 58 New
    +3
    To gain experience in the practical application of the Air Force / VKS / = it is expensive! Priceless experience in combat control! Try out new and upgraded weapons in battle! Of course, the most important thing is people, and God forbid that their skills are not lost in vain, but are creatively applied in the Russian Aerospace Forces!
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 15 November 2015 16: 20 New
      10
      And should air bombs openly lie near the GDP or should they be in some sort of shelter?

      Our videoconferencing in Syria is one of the few real and not in words help to its people.

      And let's not forget about our fearless helicopter pilots who, together with the SSA, Hezbollah, Iranian, Iraqi and other volunteers, are smashing the terrorists of US, EU, Israel, and Turkey proteges directly during the battles.
  8. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 15 November 2015 16: 01 New
    -13
    "The Air Force of the Coalition has not achieved significant success in Syria" ///

    Coalition Air Force operates in Iraq, where
    Iraqi forces managed to take two large cities from ISIS in 1,5 years.
    1. katalonec2014
      katalonec2014 15 November 2015 16: 21 New
      14
      Well, we don’t mind, we are for it, let them basmachi rammed, but when we read the statements of presidential candidates that Russian planes should be shot down, we really do not like it.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 15 November 2015 16: 30 New
      +8
      Quote: voyaka uh
      managed in 1,5 years to take from IG two major cities.

      Yeah, and the territories as they were, remained under the control of ISIS, and this coalition in its cities feels like knights of the Middle Ages in besieged fortresses.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 15 November 2015 17: 21 New
        -5
        Now began the siege of the largest city - Mosul,
        but they’re unlikely to be able to storm it.
    3. 34 region
      34 region 15 November 2015 16: 42 New
      +6
      And two cities in a year and a half is success or failure?
      1. Catafract
        Catafract 16 November 2015 03: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Region 34
        And two cities in a year and a half is success or failure?

        this is a subtle hint, how much time is there already in Syria lasting non-increasing accumulation? Already defeated the sun-faced?
    4. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 15 November 2015 16: 56 New
      12
      Quote: voyaka uh
      managed in 1,5 years to take from IG two major cities.

      Ma-la-tsu, the current did not need to destroy an independent state, and now heroically bomb it in order to drive out the ISIS thugs grown and fostered by the same coalition from its cities.
  9. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 15 November 2015 16: 02 New
    +8
    Our pilots have earned the highest rating for application efficiency.
  10. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 15 November 2015 16: 05 New
    +8
    Russian successes in Syria speak only about one thing: there have always been and will be talented people in Russia, of course, state policy should be aimed at creating a scientific base and attracting young talented guys. And who would not say anything about the future of science in the military and other industries in including in matters of innovative ideas, scientific failure will not happen. God forbid that the time troubled for science after the 90s has sunk forever.
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 15 November 2015 16: 23 New
      +3
      Quote: dchegrinec
      God forbid that the time troubled for science after the 90s has sunk forever.

      Yes Yes: these are your words - yes to God’s ears! .. For, looking at our "government" (it's hard to speak without quotation marks), you understand that God is the main Hope .. winked
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 15 November 2015 18: 23 New
        +4
        Quote: avia1991
        you understand that God is the main Hope ..

        Looking at what is happening in Russian schools, all that remains is to pray and trust in the grandparents who have remained in their right mind.
  11. NIKNN
    NIKNN 15 November 2015 16: 12 New
    +8
    and the Russians use "dumb" bombs with low precision combat use, creating great destruction


    Only in contrast to kaolitsii our "specially trained" for attacks in any conditions Su24 and Su34 use "blunt bombs" much more accurately (comparable to their VTO), and "creating large destruction" is just what you need. 25m.). In most cases, this is not critical (I would say excellent), but where you need to apply what you need.
    I am glad that the concept of Su24 continued in Su34 justifies itself. good
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 15 November 2015 17: 00 New
      +5
      Quote: NIKNN
      The probable deviation is 25m (from 5000m.). this is in most cases not critical



      Yes, "partners" - barbarians simply emanate from anger ... Such a result - from such a height - is like hitting the eye of a needle with a thread ...
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  12. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 15 November 2015 16: 17 New
    65
    Syrian takeoff of Russian aviation
  13. avia1991
    avia1991 15 November 2015 16: 20 New
    +6
    Until now, in the West, it was believed that Russia’s lag behind in the creation of modern WTO models, primarily with satellite guidance like the American JDAM program, is more than 20 years.
    Well - they gave the West a reason to feverishly improve precision weapons wassat How: what if Russia overtakes ?! This is a disaster! ..
    Our eagles can only wish them combat success - despite all the attempts of "experts" to downplay the capabilities of the Russian Aerospace Forces. AND - EQUALITY OF TAKES-OFF AND LANDING!
  14. marinier
    marinier 15 November 2015 16: 24 New
    23
    Hello dear!
    In my view the excellent indicator of V.K.S. !!! If u4est 4to by tact4ekim
    options, it corresponds to the combined air regiment. But task 4i does not
    accusations of exaggeration, Strategic.
    Uda4i to you !!!
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 15 November 2015 16: 43 New
      11
      Quote: marinier
      Uda4i to you !!!

      Good luck to you, Anthony!
      Generally, it’s safe for a Dutch marine to write such comments on a Russian site laughing
      I think I can say THANK YOU on behalf of the RF Aerospace Forces, to whom I have "some relation" in the past, for an honest assessment! good
      In General, brave fighter of Marines of the Netherlands - such comments to write on the Russian site laughing
      I think I can say THANK you on behalf of the VKS RF, where he served in the past and for an honest rating! good
      Sorry for mistakes I write through the translator.
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      2. atalef
        atalef 15 November 2015 16: 52 New
        -3
        Quote: avia1991
        Good luck to you, Anthony! In general, it’s safe for the Dutch marine to write such comments on the Russian website

        he is the same marines as I am a Spanish pilot

        Quote: avia1991
        In General, brave fighter of Marines of the Netherlands - such comments to write on the Russian site I think I can say THANK you on behalf of the VKS RF, where he served in the past and for an honest rating! Sorry for mistakes I write through the translator.

        write to him here, it will understand, maybe
        vertellen verhalen, de grootmoeder op een stoel

        (i.e. tell tales to grandmothers on the bench, translation)
        1. andj61
          andj61 15 November 2015 17: 10 New
          11
          Quote: atalef
          write to him here, it will understand, maybe
          vertellen verhalen, de grootmoeder op een stoel
          (i.e. tell tales to grandmothers on the bench, translation)

          Alexander, how many talents you have! fellow
          You even know Dutch! good
          True, I remember a long-standing story when Golda Meir was the Israeli ambassador to the USSR. At the reception the ambassador of the Netherlands spoke, and G. Meir, distracted, asked V. Molotov, P. Zhemchuzhina, his wife - who does this speak? I understand that it is in Yiddish, but it is impossible to understand the meaning! bully
        2. Sterlya
          Sterlya 15 November 2015 18: 44 New
          +2
          Quote: atalef
          he is the same marines as I am a Spanish pilot

          The answer is not in essence. I don’t understand what it is. Dear, hurt you? And the point is absolutely not that avia1991 called him a Dutch Marine. The meaning in words. I’m watching all the time, you’re definitely not a Jew No.
          Indeed, if I have Fidel Castro on my avatar, this does not mean that I am him. He just looks like me. And the rest, I would like to be like him, but probably it is not given to many
          1. andj61
            andj61 15 November 2015 19: 22 New
            +2
            Quote: Sterlya
            Indeed, if I have Fidel Castro on my avatar, this does not mean that I am him.

            Alexander atalefa has a bat in the author - maybe he looks like her too? what bully
            Indeed, he did not like this Dutchman for some reason! request
            Apparently, it inspires suspicion. winked
            1. atalef
              atalef 15 November 2015 21: 54 New
              -2
              Quote: andj61
              Alexander atalefa has a bat in the author - maybe he looks like her too?
              Indeed, he did not like this Dutchman for some reason!

              probably because the same
              Flying Dutchman. laughing
            2. Kaiten
              Kaiten 15 November 2015 22: 07 New
              -3
              Quote: andj61
              Indeed, he did not like this Dutchman for some reason!

              Well, you can’t be so naive. What a Dutchman there.
              1. andj61
                andj61 16 November 2015 08: 03 New
                -1
                Quote: Kaiten
                Quote: andj61
                Indeed, he did not like this Dutchman for some reason!

                Well, you can’t be so naive. What a Dutchman there.

                Yes and figs with him - to me he generally drum, but tovarisch really muddy!
          2. atalef
            atalef 15 November 2015 21: 28 New
            0
            Quote: Sterlya
            The answer is not in essence. I don’t understand what it is. Dear, hurt you?

            May he breed people like suckers.
            Quote: Sterlya
            And the point is absolutely not that avia1991 called him a Dutch Marine. The meaning in words. I’m watching all the time, you’re definitely not a Jew

            Well, he called himself a marine and a Dutchman. And the people are already in ecstasy - Europe is with us laughing
            I don’t understand if he wrote these words in normal Russian, what is the problem? AND ?! just the pluses would be less crammed

            Quote: Sterlya
            Indeed, if I have Fidel Castro on my avatar, this does not mean that I am him. He just looks like me

            good
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 15 November 2015 22: 57 New
              +5
              Quote: atalef
              Well, he called himself a marine and a Dutchman.

              Alexander, I also called myself an officer of the Russian Air Force. Want to challenge?
              Yes, I’m so naive: I believe that people write the truth about themselves. And I also believe that the former Dutch marine may well have sympathy for Russia - just as a former Dutch pilot, for example, can sincerely hate us! Does this seem strange to you? I don’t.
              Your assumption should be supported by an explanation: WHY is someone trying to "breed" us? For "plus signs"? .. laughing You yourself are not funny?
              As for your own view, it has a right to exist. Just do not take others to go idioms, and think that you will certainly take a word. hi
              1. atalef
                atalef 15 November 2015 23: 11 New
                +2
                Quote: avia1991
                Alexander, I also called myself an officer of the Russian Air Force. Want to challenge?

                no, until I see obvious lies and inconsistencies
                Quote: avia1991
                I’m so naive: I believe that people write the truth about themselves

                It’s wonderful and there’s nothing wrong, I’m not naive

                Quote: avia1991
                And I also believe that the former Dutch marine may well have sympathy for Russia -

                I believe the same thing, but he is not Dutch
                Quote: avia1991
                Your assumption should be supported by an explanation: WHY is someone trying to "breed" us? For the sake of "plus signs"? .. Are you not funny yourself?

                Some simply find pleasure in divorce and the feeling that there are suckers all around.
                Well, what about the pluses, absolutely not funny and look, in his case it worked perfectly
                Quote: avia1991
                the same up to your own view - he has a right to exist. Just don’t take others to go.

                Well what are you. You can continue to believe, my opinion will remain exclusively mine
                Quote: avia1991
                and think that you will certainly take a word.

                Take his word for it hi
                1. avia1991
                  avia1991 15 November 2015 23: 47 New
                  +4
                  Quote: atalef
                  Some simply find pleasure in divorce and the feeling that there are suckers all around.

                  Alexander, was not too lazy to read his comments .. you know - I would have felt sick - so much time to CAREFULLY and ONE-WAY distort the language. Whether he is Dutch or not, he writes very humanly, without the neglect and bile that are often present in your comments.
                  And yet - again, unlike you - he is not trying so clearly to introduce into his statements a bursting sense of his own superiority. ABOVE ALL! It’s very obvious for you - and it’s not clear on what grounds hi
                  therefore, there is nothing surprising in the fact that the comments of the "mariner" cause sympathy among people .. and it is not so important, by and large, WHO IS HE: Dutch, Pole, Spaniard .. He is a Human - adequate, benevolent and sincere! My opinion hi
                  And you, there is such a suspicion, just a personal reason for hostility. Do not be vindictive, Alexander - Karma goes bad! wink
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 16 November 2015 00: 05 New
                    +2
                    Quote: avia1991
                    Alexander, I was not too lazy to read his comments .. you know - I would have felt sick - so much time to CAREFULLY and LIKELY distort the language

                    Marines - they are strong
                    He generally began with the Latin alphabet. then he switched to the Cyrillic alphabet (of all things) - 3 days.
                    Nothing, he will soon take away 4 (s) instead of (h), well, and then, being a marshall, (in a month) he will switch to normal Russian - accompanied by stormy applause-- learned after all, thanks VO

                    Quote: avia1991
                    . Whether he is Dutch or not, he writes very humanly, without the neglect and bile that are often present in your comments.

                    In general, I am very doubtful of everything. And on faith I take little.
                    I would not have had any problems if he wrote his comments in Russian, but he was mowing down as a Dutchman, why?
                    Quote: avia1991
                    And yet - again, unlike you - he is not trying so clearly to introduce into his statements a bursting sense of his own superiority

                    C'mon, don’t look for a black cat in a dark room, especially if it’s not there
                    Quote: avia1991
                    ABOVE ALL! It’s very obvious for you - and it’s not clear on what grounds

                    I understand naivety, but I ask you. feel your fullness.
                    Believe me, as an Air Force officer and as I understand it, a very educated person, you are much higher than me hi
                    Quote: avia1991
                    . He is a Man - adequate, friendly and sincere!

                    A sincere person does not impersonate another?
                    That's how it seems to me
                    Quote: avia1991
                    And you, there is such a suspicion, just a personal reason for hostility. Do not be vindictive, Alexander - Karma goes bad!

                    Yes, I don’t have any hostility towards him, just, you don’t need to breed on the chaff.
                    And so. writes at the level of 50% of VO visitors, wonderful comments, simple and understandable.
                    I ask Proshenia dear!
                    GENTLEMAN, did not liken the Russians to Roditsia.
                    So 4that not sir4ayte, heartfelt.
                    I am writing as I can.
                    As a consolation, I can write 4to work on it!
                    Unconditionally, with respect to you.
                    1. ASK505
                      ASK505 16 November 2015 14: 14 New
                      -2
                      Quote: atalef
                      GENTLEMAN, did not liken the Russians to Roditsia.


                      A foreigner will never write the word "vouchsafed" and even with an "i", let alone say it. A friend mows a foreigner. What for? Probably boring.
                    2. avia1991
                      avia1991 16 November 2015 22: 48 New
                      0
                      Quote: atalef
                      In general, I am very doubtful of everything. And on faith I take little.
                      Well, this is just not the worst quality: it’s good to doubt .. but living in doubt is nothing good.
                      Quote: atalef
                      I understand naivety, but I ask you. feel your fullness.
                      You just don’t have to worry about this: your attacks do not cause me to feel worthless! laughing But constant statements like "All bullshit, lies and turned upside down (I already know!)" - it spoils the mood. Because expressing DOUBT AND BLACKING are "two big differences", don't you agree?
                      Quote: atalef
                      Believe me, as an Air Force officer and as I understand it, a very educated person, you are much higher than me
                      I have never seen the need to compare with someone in the sense of "above-below": there is me, with my views and "worms" - and there is another person, WITH OURS. The one who undertakes to decide who is higher or who is lower, at least, should be at the level of the Archangel laughing - for "we are all sinners." So your irony, which differs little from sarcasm, is not very appropriate hi - all the more, I have no illusions about your "self-deprecation" .. Just as there are no complaints about the "mariner", if it turns out that you are right - he, at least, allowed to rejoice in the "sober look from Europe" wink
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 15 November 2015 17: 05 New
      33
      Quote: marinier
      marinier

      Anthony, this test is for you: what is IT? -Answer please!
      1. Sterlya
        Sterlya 15 November 2015 18: 51 New
        +4
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: marinier
        marinier

        Anthony, this test is for you: what is IT? -Answer please!

        It's amazing that you have not been banned for swearing words. laughing
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 15 November 2015 22: 19 New
          +3
          Quote: Sterlya
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          Quote: marinier
          marinier

          Anthony, this test is for you: what is IT? -Answer please!

          It's amazing that you have not been banned for swearing words. laughing


          don't worry verbally, Anthony already has it. hi

          And Andrei Yuryevich can always give a completely different word as an excuse ..
      2. Saratovets
        Saratovets 15 November 2015 22: 08 New
        0
        laughing even as it became uncomfortable!
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  16. katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 15 November 2015 16: 37 New
    +5
    Thanks Anthony, your support is important to us!
  17. vitaliy.rnd
    vitaliy.rnd 15 November 2015 16: 41 New
    +5
    Stop calling terrorist gangs "Islamic State." From the fact that they are supported by a state called itself the United States, from this they themselves are not a state. Do not flatter them.
  18. guzik007
    guzik007 15 November 2015 16: 42 New
    +7
    Wasserman recently gave the correct analysis. It is necessary, according to him, to squeeze the igil into the northern deserts until the month of May. And in May, a dust storm begins in Syria. Basmachi will have fun: there is no water, but sand is full of pants. Yes, and bombs fly from above.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 15 November 2015 16: 57 New
      +1
      In Russia, the adversary has always fought together. Why real, sensible proposals are not taken into account when fighting in Syria.
    2. andj61
      andj61 15 November 2015 18: 01 New
      +4
      Quote: guzik007
      Wasserman recently gave the correct analysis. It is necessary, according to him, to squeeze the igil into the northern deserts until the month of May. And in May, a dust storm begins in Syria. Basmachi will have fun: there is no water, but sand is full of pants. Yes, and bombs fly from above.

      The only interesting thing is how will aviation fly into a dust storm? what
      Last year, the Syrian air base was captured by the Baboons precisely in a dust storm: planes could not take off ... request
  19. sabakina
    sabakina 15 November 2015 16: 57 New
    +8
    Do you know what I am happy about? Vietnam experience + Korea experience + Syria experience ...
    As the Maestro said:
    - I see, takeoff and landing ....
    I am glad that experienced pilots will share their experience in peacetime, and not during the battle ....
    P.S. I think so ... Oh, I hope ...
  20. veksha50
    veksha50 15 November 2015 16: 57 New
    +4
    "It is clear that the proportion of the use of new WTO models in Syria compared with uncontrolled TSA is small"...

    Um ... but it showed that a club in skillful hands can sometimes work no worse than a super-duper new-fangled weapon worth millions and billions ...

    PS It's just that in Syria, Russia, at last, took out its business card from the pocket of its wide trousers and presented it to all the "coalitions" there ... In, almost like Mayakovsky, he spoke ... Well, then about the people conducting the operation in Syria: "Nails would be made of these people!" ...
    1. katalonec2014
      katalonec2014 15 November 2015 17: 39 New
      +4
      Quote: veksha50
      Um ... but it showed that a club in skillful hands can sometimes work no worse than a super-duper new-fangled weapon worth millions and billions ...

      According to the same senior military, the United States spends $ 4-5 million on the war, while Russia is several times less.
      Looking through the comments of various Western analysts, experts and the military, one moment is striking ... they are all shocked by the increased ability of Russia.
  21. Alexander_
    Alexander_ 15 November 2015 17: 14 New
    +2
    "It allows the use of force on the territory of a foreign state either by decision of the UN Security Council, or in self-defense, or at the request of the authorities of that state."

    Now the "exceptional" have a reason, under the pretext of self-defense, to get into Syria without asking anyone, squeeze victory, push back Assad and Russia, after all, it is in accordance ...
    1. 34 region
      34 region 15 November 2015 17: 57 New
      0
      So they can enter the outskirts in such a way! At the request of Poroshenko!
  22. zulusuluz
    zulusuluz 15 November 2015 17: 24 New
    +2
    And only paper mosque Dave Majumara not able to grasp such a truth. Only fiction, gentlemen, money and nothing personal ...
  23. 3officer
    3officer 15 November 2015 17: 34 New
    +3
    Dull, sharp, square bombs - there is no difference - the main thing is the result. One mixed air regiment did more than the entire "coalition" of the United States (the organization of which should be banned on the planet). It is also pleasing that the government troops began to have Russian armored vehicles, helmets, AGS and others This is an excellent work of our sailors from the Syrian Express.
    1. Wanderer27
      Wanderer27 15 November 2015 18: 47 New
      -15
      Well, yes, the USA smashed the entire army of Saddam by air strikes, and Russia boasts of victory over a handful of partisans.
      1. RUSIVAN
        RUSIVAN 15 November 2015 21: 06 New
        0
        A bunch of partisans ??? This heap was fully supplied and formed S-Sh-A, draw conclusions, and you
        We assign another star to the general of divan troops ... You are our naive.
  24. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 15 November 2015 17: 42 New
    +5
    What's next? Gouged all the reconnaissance targets - the intensity of sorties fell.
    Chasing separate goals on the roads is not efficient and costly. Continuous
    front, as such, no. A new tactic should be developed against
    The IG and, it seems, the main burden of the military operations of the aerospace forces will fall on helicopters.
    1. 3officer
      3officer 15 November 2015 17: 52 New
      +3
      Fortified areas of terror in the mountains and cities remain and new ones are created. Su 25 can support the advancing troops directly on the line of contact. They will flush me 28 - they will be nightmare at night. The intensity of departures has fallen, well, save kerosene.
      1. Just BB
        Just BB 16 November 2015 07: 05 New
        -1
        Throw mi 28- will nightmare them.


        Yeah! 24 matches 30 year old (!!!) age was sent, and you - "mi-28"

        Although .... Knock down - it's not a pity, and as a "gift" to leave "authoritative"
        1. Just BB
          Just BB 16 November 2015 19: 14 New
          0
          "-"
          Hm! And what is wrong?
    2. Kaiten
      Kaiten 15 November 2015 22: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: v.yegorov
      Chasing separate goals on the roads is not efficient and costly.

      For this there are shock drones
  25. v245721
    v245721 15 November 2015 17: 56 New
    0
    5 generation aircraft must also be tested there. Any military company is, above all, a test and verification of weapons. as it was in avgan.numerous weapons had to be modified and BMP, Shilka, armored personnel carriers, tanks. ex there understand what I'm writing about. and aka 45 assault rifles did not prove to be the best. hi
    1. Just BB
      Just BB 16 November 2015 07: 00 New
      0
      AKA assault rifles 45
      bully
  26. EDDI 76
    EDDI 76 15 November 2015 18: 03 New
    +2
    Quote: Vita VKO

    Real sniper shooting at terrorists.

    howling like dogs
  27. Wanderer27
    Wanderer27 15 November 2015 18: 45 New
    -10
    Now the Russian world will be defended in Syria.
  28. Sterlya
    Sterlya 15 November 2015 18: 59 New
    +2
    Really. When will the Russian flag be returned to me?
  29. iouris
    iouris 15 November 2015 19: 12 New
    -1
    Quote:
    Deviation when using unguided bombs from the horizon from altitudes of about 5000 m with the Su-34 is 25-50 m ...
    End quote
    First, the question: what lies behind this indicator:
    1) a constant deviation, which is determined with an error of 22 m?
    2) is it a radius estimate? range error X? lateral error Z?
    3) is it an estimate of 4 probable deviations or 5 standard deviations?
    Secondly, the classic of the genre is that it is required not to "hit the target", but to destroy a given object of action.
    This is the question of "agree on the concepts" and "agree on the evaluation criteria."
    Since the war has not yet been won, it makes sense to resolve all these issues.
    If in a week ... two ISIS "resolve", then the questions disappear.
    1. Just BB
      Just BB 16 November 2015 06: 59 New
      +3
      In order not to hide behind this indicator - but when 5000 kg "arrives" from 250 meters - then standing on the ground anyway they will fall at the feet or 40 meters (by the way: the fragmentation of fragments from the F-1 grenade is up to 200 meters with its own weight of 600 grams and explosives - 60 grams, and then 250 kg and 100 kg of them are explosive)
    2. avia1991
      avia1991 16 November 2015 23: 23 New
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      Quote: iouris
      Quote:
      Deviation when using unguided bombs from the horizon from altitudes of about 5000 m with the Su-34 is 25-50 m ...
      End quote

      There, besides this, something else is said:
      is 25-50 m, which for stocks weighing 250 kg means almost guaranteed target defeat.
      Here is the answer to your question. And do not bother with the specifics of the error: the ammunition performs its task, and the pilots too, THIS IS THE MAIN.
  30. ALEXXX1983
    ALEXXX1983 15 November 2015 21: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: v245721
    5 generation aircraft are also needed there

    While we do not have them (not counting the prototypes), so that will not work. No. Unless the operation lasts another 5 years.
    Quote: v245721
    AKA assault rifles 45

    something new? belay
  31. Algetxnumx
    Algetxnumx 15 November 2015 21: 32 New
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    Quote: andj61
    , he didn’t like this Dutchman for some reason

    And who suits him here, no one, as they say, "and Baba Yaga is against", in general, he did not say in vain about the Spanish pilot, with his abilities and language (this is not a bag to roll) belay
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  33. Egor123
    Egor123 16 November 2015 08: 11 New
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    Good luck to our in Syria! drinks
  34. Skalpel
    Skalpel 16 November 2015 08: 48 New
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    In addition to tryndals, this gangster scum and political dividends - squeeze the rest out of the presence to the maximum, and these are priceless:
    - DB experience
    - transfer of real combat experience to the young
    - operating time of military equipment and weapons systems in real combat use modes
    - "running-in" and testing of the latest systems and developments
    And expand our bases around the world. Following the example of "mattress makers" - of course, for the holy fight against terrorism! And first of all - to revive the base in Cuba !! )))
    P / S is a little off topic, but maybe, at the same time, it will come to someone in our "upper structures" that it is necessary to revive passenger aviation too! IL-76 (86) - forreva !!
  35. slizhov
    slizhov 16 November 2015 09: 29 New
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    The offensive is developing and success is gaining strength! :)
  36. Aunt Sonya
    Aunt Sonya 16 November 2015 09: 43 New
    +2
    (Yasha cuts the truth to the uterus - BEAUTIFUL !!! ex-head of the Israeli service "NATIV")
    Jacob Kedmi on the attacks in Paris

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogNr078W2HA

    1. Disant
      Disant 18 November 2015 02: 12 New
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      pleased, not without reason EX ..
      "to carry out terror within the framework of world justice" - this must be written down
      "If the French were French, then today the foreign legion would be in Rakka, and the French paratroopers in Mosul. But this is not the case. They are busy reducing the political damage from terrorist attacks."
      well done
      ps only about the Taliban at the end did not understand
  37. win
    win 16 November 2015 10: 06 New
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    The French Air Force carried out a massive bombardment of the Syrian city of Raqqa, which is in the hands of the Islamic State group, during the raid 20 bombs were dropped. The first object destroyed during this attack was the command post of the Islamic State group; the second object destroyed was the Mujahideen training camp. ”

    How much delight from the "massive" strikes of France and the destroyed facilities of terrorists (already 2 !!!).
    For comparison:
    Russian military aircraft for November 11-12 performed in Syria 107 sorties during which destroyed 289 terrorist facilities


    That's what efficiency angry french aviation.
    And so in all the Western media they rang.
    And about Russia, no gu-gu.
  38. win
    win 16 November 2015 10: 50 New
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    The United States in connection with the terrorist attacks in Paris began to provide France with more than before, the volume of intelligence data on the positions of the Islamic State group


    Yeah! The United States still kept its secret agents.
    And how they felt their benefit, they merged the unwanted (a little bit) into the edification of the rest (that’s how good we are).
  39. Velizariy
    Velizariy 16 November 2015 15: 58 New
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    Quote: Andrew Y.
    Quote: marinier
    marinier

    Anthony, this test is for you: what is IT? -Answer please!

    When I saw, I didn’t even have any alternative options!))) I didn’t even distinguish the signs, but I read the word ... the measure of corruption is high.
  40. Arkon
    Arkon 16 November 2015 16: 04 New
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    In fact, this indicates that the improvement of the on-board weapon control systems (LMS) of front-line bombers in terms of the use of unguided bombs has brought positive results. Deviation when using unguided bombs from the horizon from altitudes of about 5000 m with the Su-34 is 25-50 m,


    This, in my opinion, is the most important part of the article. The use of unguided weapons with precision controlled is a major achievement.
  41. Lucy
    Lucy 16 November 2015 22: 13 New
    +1
    Author Roman Smirnov

    Scrolled the text of your article saw OFAB-200 and did not read.
  42. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 17 November 2015 10: 12 New
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    here's a good mood !!! Stalin gave us steel wings .. and instead of heart, a fiery motor !!!!
  43. IAlex
    IAlex 17 November 2015 16: 04 New
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    The most valuable in this article is a comparison of the capabilities of the US Air Force and the Russian Federation in a remote theater of operations:

    "For comparison: in 1991, over 42 days of Operation Desert Storm in Iraq, the US Air Force and the Coalition countries flew 48 sorties, or 224 sorties per day!"

    "In just a month, our aircraft made 1391 sorties."

    Those. with a great desire to fill up, the ratio of the capabilities of the USA and the Russian Federation is 40 times ... It is interesting when the US attacks us, will there be enough air defense means to counter such an attack ...
  44. Streamil
    Streamil 18 November 2015 02: 47 New
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    Map of Syria from Min. Russian defense
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  46. Streamil
    Streamil 18 November 2015 02: 57 New
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    VKS of the Russian Federation in air. Khmeimim (Syria)
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  48. Old Siberian
    Old Siberian 18 November 2015 06: 45 New
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    Well done Russian falcons! Let always the number of your take-offs will be equal to the number of landings.