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Tricky comments. Again the old American record!

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The old Latin expression reads: "Tempora mutantur et nos mutamur in illis". Times change, and we change with them. But, as practice shows, "mutants" continue to exist in all the "tempo" for which these rules are not explicitly written.




Nothing else can be described a number of articles published by our "partners" there, overseas.

The American edition of "The National Interest" ("National Interests") in the person of its military editor Dave Majumdar is convinced that the power of Russia, demonstrated in Syria, "is an illusion." He painted everything so gloriously in his work “Not so scary: That’s why the Russian military is a paper tiger” that any American who is interested in national interests is simply obliged to sleep well.

Of course, this is quite logical, especially when it comes to Americans. They live in America, not in the Middle East. There, here with Dave, a folk from ISIS and other entities, most likely, would have disagreed. And in America - quite to yourself.

Dave argues that while some parts of the Russian armed forces are rapidly modernizing, other forces are still forced to rely "on sick and poorly trained conscripts" and "old apparatus", which has remained in the heritage of Russia since Soviet times.

What is the "old machine", inherited by inheritance, I imagine badly. And Dave doesn't explain. Whether we are talking about the Ministry of Defense apparatus, or about the recruiting apparatus. But here's a song about "sick and poorly trained" recruits ... Apparently, Dave is not so happy with the Internet. Or with the ability to use it. It is clear that a picture with crowds of skinny, crooked and lame draftees, whom evil guys in shoulder straps are being kicked into wagons with kicks, is immediately drawn in the brains of the local man in the street.

Old song, oh, how old. That, you know, not even blamed. This is a gramophone for 78 revolutions per minute.

In the first years after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Dave believes, the Russian armed forces "have reached the bottom". The production base disintegrated along with the country, and the Russian leadership, right up to the beginning of the “zero,” only declared the reform of the armed forces, essentially doing nothing. The result was “two disastrous campaigns in Chechnya” and an “awkward operation” during the Georgian conflict in 2008.

More similar to the work in the style of "that the author smoked." Exactly two thirds. If the First Chechen, I agree, was an absolutely disastrous campaign, then by the beginning of the second, we had to work on the mistakes. And the formidable militants realized that they are quite mortal. And even began to prefer the shame of the captivity of heavenly life in heaven. Significantly, Mr. Majumdar, is indicative.

It is clear that he did not have time to just look through the pages with photos of Chechnya. There are still gangs sitting there and shaking tribute from Putin. Anyway.

But with the "awkward" operation to sensitize Georgia - yes, from the point of view of a military man, it was awkward indeed that it came out. They could have taken both Tbilisi and the whole of Georgia. What was there before Tbilisi? Of course, to prove to Mr. Majumdar that we have not dreamed about this whole Georgia for a hundred years is useless.

On the other hand, who would say. Is everything perfect in Libya? In Afghanistan? In Iraq? Or, in order for Dave to recognize the operation to incriminate Georgia as successful, must Saakashvili be hanged? With broadcast on all news channels? Well, yes, it was necessary. But here we are, good ones. Do not hang. So now, the operation is no good? Come on...

After the Georgian conflict in 2008, Russia began the modernization of individual units of its army. However, the transition "to the new model" was carried out in "small portions". “Even now, most of the forces fighting in Syria use modernized equipment from the 70s,” said Majumdar.

Oh-ho ... woe to us is bitter. Of course, in the US Army all the equipment used is from the 21st century. Especially Abrams. Especially Bradley. Especially the F-15 and F-16. Everything is so new and advanced that you can envy. Well, yes, we are not so advanced. We do not have blacks in Russia. Therefore, automatic loaders in Tanks set.

"Russia's industrial defense base continues to be in a ruined state." Russians are far behind in key technologies for creating high-precision weapons».

Only for some reason, our missiles fly one and a half thousand kilometers, and get to the right place. And the advanced weapons of the United States - where the curve will take. And it would be okay to poke your nose into Yugoslavia, but what happened in Afghanistan? Oh yes, imperfect coordinate system and errors. Well, yes, who does not happen. Then why cry about our "inaccurate" weapons, if your own flies like a god for the soul? Of course, the point of view of the American man in the street is clear. "Curve and inaccurate" Russian rocket instead of a strategic point may fly to Dave's house. Yes, scary. But nothing can be done, aspects are.

“Shipbuilding is another weak point. Russia does not have the opportunity to build large ships, ”the author is sure, adding that outdated methods are being used to create weapons.

Here I have sentenced something ... We do not have factories, it turns out where large ships can be built. Excuse me, what about the Baltic Shipyard? Or the “Eagles” that were built there, is it something like a corvette? It is clear that the main essence of the article is to reassure the American man in the street. Like, these Russians won't do anything to us. But not so embarrassing, right ...

With regard to the recently demonstrated new weapons, such as tanks "Armata" or new attack aircraft and fighters, then in this matter the author is skeptical. According to him, the units that came into service are so small and unimportant parties, “as for a boutique”. As for the development of three new types of aircraft, it is not clear to him how “such expensive programs” will be financed. In Syria, says Majumdar, “only a handful of precision weapons” are used.

Well, let's start with the fact that Syria uses exactly as many weapons as necessary. This is an American style - to drag a mountain of technology through half the world, break half of it, and then drive it back. Or donate local. For uselessness.

As for the new weapons for the "boutique" ... Good. Yes, Armata will be released in proper quantities in years through 5-6. So what? And besides T-14, we have nothing? That is, about 700 T-90, 3500 T-80 and almost 10 000 T-72 of all modifications - this is where you go? This is more than enough to turn all two and a half thousand "Abrams" of the US Army into scrap metal if necessary. And it will remain to roll the whole of Europe into a pancake.

And about the planes. Yes in aviation we have work - no end. But who said the situation is better in the US? Today, only such an inveterate optimist can speak of the advantage of the US strategic air forces, for which the B-52 is still a modern aircraft. PAK-FA is the aircraft of the future, but the Su-30, Su-34, Su-35 and MiG-35 exist today. And, as Syria shows, they exist quite effectively.

“Of course, Moscow will continue to modernize the military forces, but the military power of the Russians, except for the nuclear forces, is an illusion. This is a paper tiger, ”concludes Majumdar.

What can I say? If the military editor set his goal to reassure his fellow citizens, the task was probably accomplished. Americans can sleep well. And not even because the author of the opus could be right, no. Americans can be calm, because no one in our half of the village aims to capture America and enslave the freedom-loving Americans immediately. But the main point is not the point.

The basic meaning is deeper than it seems at first glance. In the US media, there is definitely a certain discord and inconsistency. That "Russian go", and no matter where and why, cut the Internet cables in the ocean or place rockets in Venezuela. The main thing - go. On the contrary, they do not go anywhere, because they have nothing to go. All that scraped the barns, sent to Syria.

And on this occasion, you can only say one thing - guys, you would have decided, in the end, to be smart or beautiful. By the way, the date indicated in the material by Majumdar (2030 year) as the term for the rearmament of the Russian army is not too close. 15 years is, of course, a bit. If you break. But today we are definitely building ...

Well, the song "We will not catch up" performed by Dave Majumdar is frankly not bad. But as old as it is old. We should still think about updating the repertoire.

I don’t know how much paper tiger will be in 2030, but a bear can be quite real. So, I want to order the song "But don't rush to bury us" specifically for the military editor of "National Interests" ...















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  1. Riv
    Riv 12 November 2015 06: 04 New
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    To paraphrase: do not read the American press in the morning. Otherwise, your head will be destroyed.
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 12 November 2015 06: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Riv
      : Do not read the American press in the morning. Otherwise, your head will be destroyed.

      Let's pee past the toilet and sing in chorus? laughing
      1. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 12 November 2015 06: 40 New
        +5
        Horror stories about the "Russian threat" are intended for Congress and the allies because of the dough, "rusty weapons and a paper army" - for domestic consumption. The citizens of the FShcha should remember that their army and weapons are the best in the world.
      2. Buran
        Buran 12 November 2015 16: 07 New
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        We will jump and call some Glory. wassat
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 12 November 2015 06: 30 New
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      "Tempora mutantur et nos mutamur in illis" - "times change, and we change with them."
      mr. Dave Majumdara, for you an exclusive photo, of the latest underground atomic boat, Underground Troops of the Russian Federation! wassat
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 12 November 2015 08: 25 New
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        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        an exclusive photo for you, the latest underground nuclear boat

        Do not be fooled. Do not pass off a submarine in the steppes of Ukraine as Russian.
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Horror stories about the "Russian threat" are intended for Congress and the allies because of the dough, "rusty weapons and a paper army" - for domestic consumption. The citizens of the FShcha should remember that their army and weapons are the best in the world.

        Correctly. Ah, Urya, they are patriots in the USA
        And in the subject.
        "Peskov confirmed that secret defense data was included in the plots of TV channels"
        http://news.rambler.ru/politics/31901076/
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 12 November 2015 08: 32 New
          +7
          There was a mammoth
          Do not be fooled. Do not pass off a submarine in the steppes of Ukraine as Russian.

          you confuse something ... lol
          1. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 12 November 2015 09: 26 New
            +3
            I admit my mistake. There is no arguing against the fact. There are Underground troops in Russia.
          2. Strezhevchanin
            Strezhevchanin 12 November 2015 10: 04 New
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            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            Do not give out a submarine in the steppes of Ukraine as Russian.

            But because she is here)))
        2. S-cream
          S-cream 12 November 2015 21: 30 New
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          Quote: There was a mammoth
          "Peskov confirmed that secret defense data was included in the plots of TV channels"
          http://news.rambler.ru/politics/31901076/

          yeah. "Accidental" leak is so "accidental" :)

          Subtle trolling of our western "partners".
      2. trantor
        trantor 13 November 2015 05: 27 New
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        It is equipped with Mole missiles and Earthquake 10 torpedoes. Missiles are launched from the underground "down" position. Hypersound has not yet been achieved, but work in this direction is underway.
    3. Duke
      Duke 12 November 2015 06: 36 New
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      Quote: Riv
      To paraphrase: do not read the American press in the morning. Otherwise, your head will be destroyed.


    4. andre
      andre 12 November 2015 07: 27 New
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      And now I am "leaning" on the Rasha Today channel. Look, you won't regret it. There, such a breakdown of stereotypes among the Americos is going on, you will swing. And in general there are a lot of things that show that even our "hanging" federal ones are not eager to show for some reason ?!
      1. AndreyS
        AndreyS 12 November 2015 07: 42 New
        +3
        Quote: andre
        And now I am "leaning" on the Rasha Today channel. Look, you won't regret it. There, such a breakdown of stereotypes among the Americos is going on, you will swing.

        Well, it’s not for nothing that the Americans are already at the level of lawmakers to decide the question of closing the channel !!!!! They are afraid of him like fire !!!!!!
      2. venaya
        venaya 12 November 2015 08: 55 New
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        Quote: andre
        I am now "leaning" on the Rasha Today channel. Look, you won't regret it. There is such a breakdown of stereotypes ... And in general there are a lot of things that show that even our "hanging" federal ones for some reason are not eager to show ?!

        Here, and I also noticed, as always - the best is for export, and home, even in the federal states, is utterly terrifying. And all this together is considered the norm. From a schiza, just a head breaks.
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  3. Name
    Name 12 November 2015 06: 11 New
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    American edition "The National Interest" ("National interests") represented by its military editor Dave Majumdara I am sure that the power of Russia demonstrated in Syria is “this is an illusion”.- who cares, google about Dave and understand, - usual yap.
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 12 November 2015 10: 29 New
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      Quote: name
      ordinary yap

      By and large, I do not care what wrote this tip, the thing is different.
      In any case, the natos hang out at our borders, and the niger drives them in our direction and it doesn’t matter whether the paper tiger or not, the United States are not going to check on their own skin, at least they think so.
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  6. Magic archer
    Magic archer 12 November 2015 06: 15 New
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    It seems that Majumar does not sleep, does not eat, only writes his stupid ratings! True, a normal person has nothing to read there, everything is written at the schoolboy level. But apparently in the states most of these ....
  7. KOH
    KOH 12 November 2015 06: 22 New
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    And here I am telling them a dream, but what did you think?)))) ... (Love and doves)
  8. lexx2038
    lexx2038 12 November 2015 06: 22 New
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    What can you say? One word - the Anglo-Saxons. I am not a racist, but Anglo-Saxons!
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 12 November 2015 06: 29 New
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      Quote: lexx2038
      I am not a racist, but Anglo-Saxons!

      This is the principle: I hate two things-racists and blacks? wassat
  9. Wolka
    Wolka 12 November 2015 06: 36 New
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    Well, if the Yankees generals want to think so about the RF Armed Forces, let them think that freedom of thought is so democratic in American terms ...
  10. EvgNik
    EvgNik 12 November 2015 06: 38 New
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    Thanks to Roman for the article, but in general it is necessary to rejoice at such statements:
    “Of course, Moscow will continue to modernize the military forces, but the military power of Russians, in addition to nuclear forces, is an illusion. This is a paper tiger. "
    Let them continue to think about us in the same spirit. We will be calmer.
  11. parusnik
    parusnik 12 November 2015 06: 40 New
    +3
    for Dave to recognize the operation to incriminate Georgia as successful, must Saakashvili be hanged? ... No, there was no need to hang up ... it was necessary to bring the situation to the point that he would hang himself or choke with a tie .. Not until work ...
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 12 November 2015 19: 16 New
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      .it was necessary to bring the situation to the point that he would hang himself or choke on a tie .. ,,
      But do we need it? Suddenly they will find a smart one?
  12. BecmepH
    BecmepH 12 November 2015 06: 43 New
    +1
    Yes, let them live there as they want? Why do we need them to prove something? After all, we know, WHAT POWER !!!
  13. Nymp
    Nymp 12 November 2015 06: 47 New
    +2
    Well, how exceptional is it hard to realize that a star-striped army is a serious adversary. Similar articles in their press are a lullaby for the night, to their patriots. Sleep quietly scorched American asses!
  14. Junior, I
    Junior, I 12 November 2015 06: 52 New
    +1
    It seems that they have one gyrus in their brain, and that one is dotted (if they think in one direction, the second - no).
    Because of what they write, they still consider themselves "exceptional". But we cannot relax in any way.
  15. magician
    magician 12 November 2015 07: 17 New
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    "Of course, Moscow will continue to modernize its military forces, but the military power of the Russians, apart from nuclear forces, is an illusion. This is a paper tiger," concludes Majumdar.

    There is an old Russian saying "amuse himself with a thought." It is interesting what he will write when the USAS will begin to reactivate the old bomb shelters and dig new ones, after the completion of the operation in Syria, not in favor of the USAS.
  16. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 12 November 2015 07: 20 New
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    To be honest, I no longer want to comment on articles on this topic. Americans pour from empty to empty, from one edition to another. If the Russian army is a "paper tiger", then what kind of occupation of the Baltic states are you yelling at every corner? I'm tired of it.
  17. satris
    satris 12 November 2015 07: 46 New
    +2
    This is a paper tiger.

    By the way, paper can easily be cut with paper. I’m telling you as a professional.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 12 November 2015 08: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: satris
      By the way, paper can easily be cut.

      If the paper is not toilet. It is unlikely for her. This is what I say as a user.
      1. 1rl141
        1rl141 12 November 2015 12: 51 New
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        Quote: EvgNik
        If the paper is not toilet. It is unlikely for her. This is what I say as a user.


        Any paper can tolerate everything. This is how I say it as an expert.
  18. ImPerts
    ImPerts 12 November 2015 07: 46 New
    +2
    Let them be happy, let them live with the thought of paper tigers)))
    They have two states of life. Or you should not be afraid, as it is dust and paper tigers. Or oh how scary, hide - the Russians are coming ...
    There is no middle ground, the brain does not allow ...
  19. AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 12 November 2015 07: 50 New
    +2
    Regarding the article ... I think the "national interest" needs to change its military observer!
    This majumorda is absolutely incompetent in the issues that she is trying to write about!
    And there is no need to discuss the vysery of this couch expert majumorda. He’s always trying to compare
    who is stronger, a whale or an elephant, not even understanding the basic principles!
    Banshee, do not write more about majumorda, please!
  20. mamont5
    mamont5 12 November 2015 07: 56 New
    +1
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Quote: Riv
    : Do not read the American press in the morning. Otherwise, your head will be destroyed.

    Let's pee past the toilet and sing in chorus? laughing

    Maybe. That's just not WE, but the Americans, who revere this soothing nonsense.
  21. Signore Tomato
    Signore Tomato 12 November 2015 07: 57 New
    +1
    Mlyn, now I'm starting to think that rodents climbed into Abkhazia on purpose to surrender to Russia ... I mean, to give all of their Georgia to Russia.
  22. Eddie
    Eddie 12 November 2015 08: 00 New
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    Dave Majumdar-ANALigeg is still ...
  23. dmitrich
    dmitrich 12 November 2015 08: 18 New
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    That’s why the Russian armed forces are a paper tiger
    this is from the same series as Russia is a colossus with feet of clay! fool
  24. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 12 November 2015 08: 20 New
    +3
    Dear site participants, all YOU are normal, adequate people and for the most part patriots of OUR MOTHERLAND, and it does not seem to YOU ​​that all these scribbles and other nonsense of rotten, rotten Western scribblers, with all their loud statements about the power and strength of their armed forces in the literal sense says only one thing, yes, the site participants, readers and organizers will excuse me - they have grown FIR from fear and all their behavior speaks about this directly and indirectly, the strong and courageous behaves DECENTLY, and how all these Western slaves behave ..., buggers WE know and see well nachit proper way go comrades. Yes, there are still problems in the military sphere, but I think the country's leadership will be able to solve these problems.
  25. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 12 November 2015 08: 30 New
    0
    Agents shouldn’t be handed over ... Let him continue to reassure naive Americans, otherwise the people will take to the streets and begin to demand an increase in the military budget, the NATO will only be glad.
  26. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 12 November 2015 08: 44 New
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    And then he said that we had to go to Tbilisi and hang Saakashvili ...
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  29. luxprofi
    luxprofi 12 November 2015 09: 37 New
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    The article is written amusingly. It is pleasant to read and feel like a citizen of a powerful power that has a mighty army. I mean Russia. However, the hat-tinging tone is absolutely inappropriate. The US Army, objectively the most powerful and technically advanced. The number of new equipment in the Russian army, single copies. EW systems, which have been discussed and written especially recently, \ Krasukha, et cetera \ are not new in the US Army for a long time. Back in the days of the US-Vietnam war with the help of electronic warfare, the Yankees actively and effectively fought against our air defense systems.
    Engine building, materials science, microelectronics, production of laser components and other and other and other. Everywhere we have a wild lag. Lost dozens, if not hundreds of technologies. And we are building Yeltsin centers, for budget billions and a museum of memory of totalitarianism. Http://www.nakanune.ru/news/2015/10/22/22418255/, Instead of investing money in fundamental science.
    1. avg avg
      avg avg 12 November 2015 16: 29 New
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      Do not panic. Everything has its time.
  30. Alimk
    Alimk 12 November 2015 09: 41 New
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    NATO: A giant radio-electronic bubble in Syria does not allow us to fly
  31. free
    free 12 November 2015 09: 57 New
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    but I would say so! yes, we have many mistakes and shortcomings, and everything is not as good as we would like, BUT if the war starts, we will tear you and kill you, despite any backlogs in technology and weapons and the number of people, we we’ll turn you into radioactive ashes, and if the last Russian and Zapadenets remain and they are weakened to die, the Russian will laugh because he killed all the enemies, and the Westerner will roar with a beluga dousing with snot and shit because he dies, and we won’t be deprived of it under no circumstances, think about it lousy mu Jamar, a cowardly dog!
  32. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 12 November 2015 10: 05 New
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    Dave - the Afghans have an evil spirit))
    Sushera, and that’s it.
  33. Russian_Bear
    Russian_Bear 12 November 2015 10: 24 New
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    Good afternoon.
    Such publications should be treated with irony. Americans live in their fantasy world, where they are kind, strong and fair.
    The harsh reality is that not only are they strong, but we have heard a lot about American kindness and justice from Kosovo, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

    Russia is developing and will continue to develop!
    It remains to remove the liberal "gang" in power, and things will go uphill!
  34. Kite
    Kite 12 November 2015 10: 47 New
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    Yes, let them shout that the tiger is paper, to shout or think is not the same thing. To stimulate the thought process, im our arms exhibitions, military-technical cooperation contracts and military salvos on the IS.
  35. marinier
    marinier 12 November 2015 10: 48 New
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    Quote: Riv
    To paraphrase: do not read the American press in the morning. Otherwise, your head will be destroyed.

    It’s necessary, and it’s necessary to know the weight of the depth of the bottom of the lucifer
    1. Kite
      Kite 12 November 2015 12: 03 New
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      It also happens to me that you touch one letter on the screen, and another is put on the line. The tablet itself writes what he wants laughing
  36. Krsk
    Krsk 12 November 2015 11: 16 New
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    I want to reassure our probable friends, if you have more than enough ...
  37. e2e4
    e2e4 12 November 2015 11: 22 New
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    Or maybe there is such an option: American taxpayers are being prepared for the fact that Russia can be democratized quickly, painlessly and without losses for the USA? Eh, if not for the Nuclear Forces! .. lol
  38. NEXUS
    NEXUS 12 November 2015 12: 04 New
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    For some reason, our missiles fly XNUMX kilometers and get where they need to. And the advanced weapons of the United States - where the curve will take. And it would be okay to poke your nose into Yugoslavia, but what happened in Afghanistan? Oh yes, imperfect coordinate system and errors. Well, yes, it doesn't happen to anyone. Then why cry about our "inaccurate" weapon, if it flies like God puts it on your soul?

    Already now the Americans are using GLONASS services to the full and they themselves say that our system gives the coordinates more accurately than their GPS. And the group of GLONASS satellites will be strengthened.
    As for the new weapons for the "boutique" ... Good. Yes, Armata will be released in proper quantities in years through 5-6. So what? And besides T-14, we have nothing? That is, about 700 T-90, 3500 T-80 and almost 10 000 T-72 of all modifications - this is where you go? This is more than enough to turn all two and a half thousand "Abrams" of the US Army into scrap metal if necessary. And it will remain to roll the whole of Europe into a pancake.

    And the introduction and development of the same robotic systems in the troops, we, in their opinion, play "toys." About the heavy T-15 with the "BAIKAL" combat module (which equates this platform in terms of capabilities to a tank), apparently striped ones also prefer not think.
    And what will American newspapers write with experts when they go on the GLADER U-71 series and the BZHRK BARGUZIN takes up duty? ...
  39. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 12 November 2015 12: 24 New
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    He painted everything so gloriously in his work “Not So Scary: That Is Why the Russian Armed Forces Are a Paper Tiger” that any American who is interested in national interests is simply obliged to sleep peacefully

    Yes, let them write what they want, let them please themselves - they say that the grapes are green. Us,
    most importantly, have time to rearm the Army. And with his articles he only helps us gain time and stand up to our full height.
    PS
    By the way, the tiger is not for us. It is rather to the Germans, Chinese and other Koreans.
    And another animal is closer to us.
  40. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 12 November 2015 12: 32 New
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    Younger, I (4) SU Today, 06:52 AM
    It feels like they have one gyrus in their brain,

    Yes, not in the brain, but much lower.
  41. silver_roman
    silver_roman 12 November 2015 12: 46 New
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    Author, why are you so excited ?! request
    There is the Pentagon, which always sponsors articles that Russia is about to conquer the Baltic states, Poland, Georgia, Honduras, pluto, etc., they also write about Kiaty, which is about to erase Hiroshima, will take Taiwan away. etc. This is aimed at knocking out money.
    In turn, the Congress sponsors these kind of kids who write that everything is fine and all this bullshit. What is China, what is the Russian Federation - all children running with slingshots developed in Kievan Rus yet.

    What concerns our shipbuilding.
    There is a controversial point. Whatever one may say, but we have problems and very significant ones. Another question is that they are clearly marked and painstaking work is being done on them. By the way, the "eagles" are not that big ships in terms of tonnage. There are about 25-28 thousand tons in the Rod. The Yankees were talking most likely about 100 or more, like aircraft carriers or civilian tankers. By the way, this also has a problem. Of course, we can build something big at the sev.mash (like Vikradaditya sawed there, correct if I'm wrong), but it takes a long time. The largest dock was in Nikolaev, if I'm not mistaken. And consequently, it went down in history, the Ukrainians probably already cut it into metal and handed it over to the huckster.crying
    On the other hand, you first need to provide a near sea zone for the protection of our territorial waters by ships, and then talk about the ocean. Yankee apparently thinks like a child: the larger the ship, the better and stronger it is. Such "experts" only play into our hands.

    By technology, we are also in many ways inferior no matter how regrettable it sounds. The Saxons have learned that the most effective war is not with weapons, but with the bribery and construction of fifth, sixth, tenth and 100500 columns within states, PR war, mass media, etc. Much cheaper and much more efficient. We have problems with microelectronics - our eternal rake. But overall, work is ongoing.

    I’ll add on my own that comparing the Yankee army and ours is not entirely correct. They were always warriors so-so negative , another thing is that in the undercover games they are true grandmasters.

    It is necessary to tighten the economy and domestic policy. And then in the outer one in front of the whole planet, but inside we skid.
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  43. iliya87
    iliya87 12 November 2015 14: 02 New
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    laughing the author smiled! In fact, in the United States, as elsewhere, there are those who say that their Army is the strongest, others that the weakest. There is someone who says that the Russian army is worth nothing, the wreckage alone. Others say that the strong and even in many aspects are superior to the order. This is an absolutely normal phenomenon. And we have the same thing in China. And the truth as they say somewhere in the middle))
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 12 November 2015 17: 17 New
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      Quote: iliya87
      laughing the author smiled! In fact, in the United States, as elsewhere, there are those who say that their Army is the strongest, others that the weakest. There is someone who says that the Russian army is worth nothing, the wreckage alone. Others say that the strong and even in many aspects are superior to the order. This is an absolutely normal phenomenon. And we have the same thing in China. And the truth as they say somewhere in the middle))

      Speak everything right ... but ... one caveat is that the mobilization resource of amers and the whole of NATO is not comparable to ours, maybe we have "under arms", if God forbid, a (non-nuclear) war starts, and old and young, that is, almost over 100 million people.
      Best regards hi
  44. Maksus
    Maksus 12 November 2015 14: 21 New
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    In general, Roman is right, but there is a question for large ships. Where are they? Is something being built now, or are we stamping the ships in the near zone? Peter and Kuznetsov are not eternal (the Admiral is just a bucket, and also not an atomic one). And the proportion of modern weapons is still low. Mi-28 and Ka-52 would like more, just a lot more.
  45. lazma3
    lazma3 12 November 2015 14: 54 New
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    Yes, this Majubdar is the same dibiloid, like Psaki. I would like to write to everyone. nonsense. The main thing that would be read.
  46. taycus
    taycus 12 November 2015 16: 17 New
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    Quote: 1rl141
    Quote: EvgNik
    If the paper is not toilet. It is unlikely for her. This is what I say as a user.


    Any paper can tolerate everything. This is how I say it as an expert.

    used toilet paper has already endured everything. I say this as a layman
  47. Koronik
    Koronik 12 November 2015 17: 00 New
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    “I don’t know how paper tiger will be in 2030, but the bear may turn out to be quite real. So, I would like to order the song“ Don't rush to bury us ”especially for the military editor of National Interests
    Gentlemen, I don’t understand one thing, well, we are again making excuses, even if all Americans believe not only Majubdar, but then there will be a surprise.
  48. Weaving
    Weaving 12 November 2015 20: 07 New
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    Either Russia is powerful, then weak, it’s interesting that the Americans’s brain will not crack from the inconsistency of information ?!
  49. uragan114
    uragan114 12 November 2015 21: 20 New
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    Quote: Andrew Y.
    "Tempora mutantur et nos mutamur in illis" - "times change, and we change with them."
    mr. Dave Majumdara, for you an exclusive photo, of the latest underground atomic boat, Underground Troops of the Russian Federation! wassat


    And the combine of the Agricultural troops of the Russian Federation belay
    1. Spnsr
      Spnsr 12 November 2015 23: 26 New
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      Quote: uragan114
      And the combine of the Agricultural troops of the Russian Federation

      these are Cossacks at leisure between military companies
      they should be main, substitute it can also be pack laughing
  50. S-cream
    S-cream 12 November 2015 21: 37 New
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    In general, it is not clear from when Russia became a tiger. All my life I have been a bear. A tiger, rather, is associated with China, although, of course, China is a dragon.