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Syrian army fights street fighting in Aleppo

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Syrian government army offensive continues with support aviation VKS of the Russian Federation. In the southeast of Aleppo province, several dozen militants from the Jebhat al-Nusra terrorist group were destroyed. Settlements of Bern and Tel Hade liberated. In the area of ​​the Air Force Academy, the armed forces of the SAR attacked militant positions and warehouses with weapons. As a result of the strikes, a warehouse with ammunition and several all-terrain vehicles equipped with large-caliber machine guns were completely destroyed.


Fierce battles take place in the quarters of Aleppo itself (the largest city of Syria in terms of population). Thus, blows were struck at the buildings in which the militants "Dzhebhat al-Nusra" had settled in the Ar-Rashidin and Bustan al-Qasar neighborhoods abandoned by the townspeople.

Syrian army fights street fighting in Aleppo


Fighting continues in the suburbs of Damascus. War correspondent of the Syrian news agency SANA reports that in Harasta, the troops managed to defeat a militant detachment of up to 100 people. The militants who survived after a series of blows began to leave through agricultural sectors, where they fell into the ring. Captured managed to take militants number up to a platoon.

President Vladimir Putin discussed the situation in Syria with members of the Security Council of the Russian Federation. RIA News cites a statement from the Kremlin press service:
During the operational meeting with the permanent members of the Security Council, the course of the ongoing operation of the Russian videoconferencing system in Syria was discussed.

Meanwhile, from Canada comes the information that the new head of the government of this country, Justin Trudeau, confirmed his intention to withdraw from the coalition participating in the operation in Syria. According to Trudeau, Canadian Air Force aircraft will not strike in Iraq and Syria.

Trudeau:
The country's defense minister, Sajjan, has been instructed to work out the issue of the return of our aircraft to the home registry bases.
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  1. the most important
    the most important 6 November 2015 14: 47 New
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    Allah help them !!! No panic, victory will be ours !!!
    1. Cossack Ermak
      Cossack Ermak 6 November 2015 15: 17 New
      13
      It’s good that we switched to real actions. With all the bombing and shelling, success in war means only one thing. This is a complete restoration of control over territories.
      1. xan
        xan 6 November 2015 15: 36 New
        +6
        Quote: Cossack Ermak
        It’s good that we switched to real actions.

        There along the way, the Syrian army has big problems. For almost a month of the offensive, not a single task has been solved, and this is with the intensive support of aviation. They don’t finish something with us. And with TV propaganda, there’s already too much, ISIS’s combat effectiveness is not falling, and aviation is not capable of drastically increasing the combat capability of Assad’s army. It is necessary to stop the offensive and prepare a new one with another chip.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 November 2015 15: 41 New
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          Quote: xan
          There along the way, the Syrian army has big problems. For almost a month of the offensive, not a single task has been solved, and this is with the intensive support of aviation. They don’t finish something with us.

          А вы повоюйте 4,5 года с хорошо подготовленным и укомплектованным противником и потом посмотрите сколько сил то у Вас останется.Сирия В ОДИНОЧКУ 4 года сдерживает эту мерзость,причем тут не договаривают то...Удивительно ,что нашли силы и начали "мочить"выродков.И дай им Бог сил и мужества.
          1. tatarin_ru
            tatarin_ru 6 November 2015 23: 41 New
            +4

            А вы повоюйте 4,5 года с хорошо подготовленным и укомплектованным противником и потом посмотрите сколько сил то у Вас останется.Сирия В ОДИНОЧКУ 4 года сдерживает эту мерзость,причем тут не договаривают то...Удивительно ,что нашли силы и начали "мочить"выродков.И дай им Бог сил и мужества.



            Everything is so, everything is so, the only thing I don’t understand in the Iran-Syria-Russia coalition
            I understand it was originally conceived
            Russia - VKS + assistance to the regime
            Iran - infantry (trained) -20 thousand
            = quick success.
            We started Syria here, but the Iranians?

            После смерти 2 Иранских генералов про них ничего не слышно. Пошли на попятную? торгуются или играют в свою тонкую "Восточную" игру?
            1. garmonist
              garmonist 7 November 2015 06: 09 New
              +2
              Just where the Iranians are fighting, and these are the territories around Aleppo, and all serious successes have been achieved.
          2. boroda64
            boroda64 7 November 2015 01: 19 New
            0
            .
            и "ледлиз" - на самолетах
            - they’re not carrying Assad ....
          3. complete zero
            complete zero 8 November 2015 12: 49 New
            +3
            so he writes about this (for what minksuete?) and the fact that our propaganda (to put it mildly) is deceiving is so true
        2. avt
          avt 6 November 2015 15: 50 New
          21
          Quote: xan
          They don’t finish something with us.

          То что ,,недоговаривают" вполне можно понять самому . Во первых - бои идут в городской и сельской затройке и горах ; Во вторых это не бои а ля Вторая мировая, работать приходится с хорошо вооруженными , мобильными группами прекрасно умеющих окапываться ;В третьих - за время что там шли бои армия Асада теряла преимущество в тяжелой технике , что реально сказывалось на морально волевых рядового состава - устали люди , да и иранские советники No. ну не очень - насоветовали в последний год , полтора;В четвертых - туда usы реально собрали и вооружили всю шваль с Леванта , можно уссываться по поводу пятерых подготовленных боевиков,ну даже с учетом воровства они туда поставили изрядно оружия ;В пятых - там реально чересполосица и сирийское ,,Гуляй поле"- кто то приходит, кто то уходит , сегодня друг, завтра враг .Так что там еще долго будет , В Ливане резались 15 лет , пока за шкирку их не взяли и не заставили помириться ,а в Сурьи покамест из Игроков особо никто не хочет реально уступать и договариваться - все еще впереди ,вон даже Эрдоган встрепенутся и решил глушить курдов наземной операцией для начала в Ираке под видом борьбы с ИГИЛ
        3. g1v2
          g1v2 6 November 2015 15: 58 New
          33
          And what problem do you want to solve in 3 weeks (at first they bombed ours before the offensive) with comparable forces of the parties? There are successes - south of Aleppo, a lot of NPs were liberated, 3 km were left to get to Quireis, and today, it seems, they beat us back in Latakia. The same thing goes as in the second Chechen one - systematic squeezing of militants with grinding them and destroying their logistics and facilities in the rear. Odnkako, however, that ours covered the Assad with an air defense umbrella, and all interested parties ran to Moscow to consult for a clear turn. Already part of the sponsors of the militants - the United States, Turkey, Jordan do not insist on the immediate resignation of Assad. And this is a sure sign that their affairs are not so hot. The results of this offensive can be summed up in half a year - which strategic and tactical goals have been achieved and which have not. By the way, about the boiler at al-Latamina - the idea was originally virtual. There has been a cauldron between Homs and Hama for several years, several under Damascus - and what did it give?
          1. avt
            avt 6 November 2015 16: 13 New
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            Quote: g1v2
            It’s the same as in the second Chechen one - systematic squeezing of militants

            Quite right, and from the densely populated part of the country where they buried tightly and have a short shoulder to Turkey with an open border, even the soil allows the tunnels to dig better than in Vietnam, so they squeeze them into the desert from water sources, where they are in full view, then you see it would be more fun.
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 6 November 2015 16: 29 New
              +7
              Сейчас кстати много инфы появилось об разборках у бабахов . В основном на этой занятой бабахами территории - от алеппо до латакии. Если раньше они были единой " армией завоевания " , то сейчас начинают размежевание - часть к ИГ уходит , часть в умеренную оппозицию перекрашивается . Тч продвижение сирийцев может ускориться если бабахи в тылу передерутся.
              1. Lenin
                Lenin 8 November 2015 19: 05 New
                0
                So it is necessary to help the broads .. We have specialists who would baptize them all and let the strongest survive. Well, to finish off the survivor, until it got stronger.
        4. Karayakupovo
          Karayakupovo 6 November 2015 22: 51 New
          +2
          Respected! Have you ever read somewhere that someone would help with the armament of the Syrian Army? American friends helped (and ISIS) along with others. And most importantly, modern weapons. Yes, and bandits from all over the world went there, and mind you, do not help the Syrian Army, but thugs. I hope that with the help of Russia and his true friends, the people of Syria will get rid of these bandits.
          1. atalef
            atalef 6 November 2015 23: 00 New
            -4
            Quote: Karayakupovo
            Respected! Have you ever read somewhere that someone would help with the armament of the Syrian Army?

            Are you serious ? are they fighting with squeakers and muskets?
            Quote: Karayakupovo
            Yes, and bandits from all over the world went there, and mind you, do not help the Syrian Army, but thugs.

            Yes, this is an interesting point. and how do you explain that we hear about volunteers in ISIS and Co. = every day, but Assad doesn’t have any volunteers?
            Quote: Karayakupovo
            I hope that with the help of Russia and his true friends, the people of Syria will get rid of these bandits.

            impossible to get rid of the local population
            1. Weyland
              Weyland 7 November 2015 01: 19 New
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              Quote: atalef
              impossible to get rid of the local population


              Well, your heroes (Yeshua bin Nun, King David, etc.) once succeeded ... True, in those days there was no Nuremberg Tribunal!
            2. garmonist
              garmonist 7 November 2015 06: 31 New
              +5

              За Асада воюют десятки тысяч местных добровольцев-ополченцев,а также Ливанские,Иранские,Иракские добровольцы есть некоторое количество из бывшего СССР . А за ИГИЛ и других терроров - жертвы религиозной ваххабитской пропаганды поощряемой "друзьями сирии" СА,Ктаром,Турцией и такими же демократическими режимами.
        5. Ahmed
          Ahmed 6 November 2015 23: 46 New
          -8
          Quote: xan
          There along the way, the Syrian army has big problems. For almost a month of the offensive, not a single task has been solved, and this is with the intensive support of aviation. They don’t finish something with us.


          Maybe... what I dug up on the net ...

          По сообщениям источников, связанных с "Хизбаллой", 5 ноября в результате бомбардировки российской авиации по ошибке были убиты 16 боевиков "Хизбаллы" в сирийской провинции Идлиб.
          It - second similar incident during the week. В конце октября, в результате российской бомбардировки были убиты семь членов "Хизбаллы".


          ... reported the death of two generals the corps of the guardians of the Islamic revolution - Kamal Kribani and Hassan Ahmadi during intelligence in Tel Sahih, Idlib. It should be noted that over the past few days, Tel Sahikh has been subjected to intensive bombing of Russian aircraft.


          Mid October Russian aircraft mistakenly inflicted massive strikes on positions Syrian army in the northern part of the province of Homs. By mistake, the Aatun checkpoint, Miluk base, military college in al-Waer, a regime column in the Thir Maalah district and the area around the base of the 26th division were bombed.
          1. Jack-b
            Jack-b 9 November 2015 11: 08 New
            0
            Quote: Ahmed
            Perhaps ... what I digged on the net ...

            You somehow modestly dug up. There is still about bombed residential neighborhoods, civilian casualties, it seems even a hospital was bombed .... or even a couple .... In general, a lot of things can be digged up if not modest.
        6. LEX SU
          LEX SU 7 November 2015 03: 46 New
          +4
          I watched an interview with the colonel of the army of the SAR. He said - we can do it faster, but during the war years we are used to protecting people (soldiers).
        7. complete zero
          complete zero 8 November 2015 12: 48 New
          +1
          put a plus .. (for which minus the truth?))) back .. if urapatrioty Syrians are fighting with all the terror scumbag armed and numerous
      2. Sterlya
        Sterlya 6 November 2015 16: 55 New
        +4
        And Canadians have been surprising me lately. Adequate became not much. Worse than the Geyropeans were
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 6 November 2015 18: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: Sterlya
          And Canadians have been surprising me lately. Adequate became not much. Worse than the Geyropeans were

          They will concentrate on Urkain.
          1. barsik92090
            barsik92090 6 November 2015 18: 46 New
            +1
            This, given the mentality of dill, they will not pull for a long time.
        2. Jack-b
          Jack-b 9 November 2015 11: 21 New
          0
          So they are also very seriously sitting on oil. And all this catastrophe with oil prices concerns them too. Even if they try not to give a sign. They account for almost a third of oil exports.
      3. Homo
        Homo 6 November 2015 21: 28 New
        0
        Quote: Cossack Ermak
        It’s good that we switched to real actions. With all the bombing and shelling, success in war means only one thing. This is a complete restoration of control over territories.

        So they began to bomb in order to facilitate the task on earth.
      4. Observer2014
        Observer2014 7 November 2015 09: 22 New
        +2
        Сирийцам бы "терминатор" и т72 тюнингованный под уличные бои. Хоть по сотне.
    2. Tor5
      Tor5 6 November 2015 16: 47 New
      +2
      State coalition fell! ... and it’s good, do not let them get confused. And for the Syrians - a quick victory !!
    3. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 6 November 2015 17: 47 New
      12
      Seen from Allepo
      1. avt
        avt 6 November 2015 18: 26 New
        +6
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Seen from Allepo

        They dragged these campaigns - they shoot meaningfully, they do not run in crowds - they try to work like they taught them to walk and keep their distance. They are again packed in the same way. They don’t drink tea every five minutes. laughing
    4. marlin1203
      marlin1203 6 November 2015 17: 50 New
      0
      Армии САР требуется постоянный приток личного состава и поступление ВиВТ. Если с последним мы еще как-то поможем, то сознательность в гражданах Сирии будить "дохлый номер". Да и в Германии они уже большей частью...
      1. avt
        avt 6 November 2015 18: 30 New
        +6
        Quote: marlin1203
        . And in Germany they are already mostly ...

        You will not believe it, but most of the refugees in Europe are Kosovars Albanians, well now the Afghans have pulled themselves together with Pakistanis and Iraqis. Syrians do not do the weather.
    5. Stena
      Stena 6 November 2015 20: 01 New
      -2
      Quote: the most important
      Allah help them !!

      Yeah. Shalom - Orthodox!
      Батенька - вы если православный - то тогда нужно восхвалять своего Бога и его звать на помощь, а если атеист - то не нужно лезть в сферы, в которых - ни "бум-бум". А то любопытная ситуа выходит - когда и этим хочется угодить и других лизнуть ...А в результате - каша в башке ...
      1. the most important
        the most important 6 November 2015 22: 15 New
        +4
        Everyone has their own god. And if Allah helps the Syrians in battle, then why not ??? But in general, this expression is a slightly revised answer of Kadyrov to the question of the journalist: where did Allah give the money in Chechnya! So think about what was written ... and still try to get rid of the porridge in the head, it can come in handy in life.
        1. atalef
          atalef 6 November 2015 22: 40 New
          +5
          Quote: the most important
          Everyone has their own god.

          In fact, God is one
          1. Udofil
            Udofil 9 November 2015 00: 55 New
            0
            А может, вообще-то бога нет?)) Или нас всех снова "охмурили ксендзы"?
            1. Stena
              Stena 9 November 2015 15: 50 New
              0
              Why is this? Because it is not visible? So the brains in your head are also not visible at first glance - does this not mean that they are not there? Or does it mean?
        2. Stena
          Stena 7 November 2015 12: 37 New
          -2
          Quote: the most important
          Everyone has their own god.

          Do not disgrace! I won’t even comment on such stupidity!
          Quote: the most important
          But in general, this expression is a slightly revised answer of Kadyrov to the question of the journalist: where did the money come from in Chechnya?

          Yeah. Now ask - where is it located? This is blasphemy of pure water ...
          Your comments here are complete ignorance. When you don’t have your understanding, but you want to be good, that's it. Like, he said - and the Islamists seem to be fine and everyone else - not bad. But no. Nizya kissing these one place and all the rest be good ... Either you have a clear position and you are respected for it, or - like that - a rag in the wind - where the wind blows there and trembles ... For which the Orthodox martyrs died - Why did Yevgeny Rodionov die in Chechnya? Do not know? Then don’t write about what you don’t know ...
      2. Hello
        Hello 6 November 2015 22: 20 New
        +3
        Quote: Stena
        My friend - if you are Orthodox, then you need to praise your God and call him for help,

        In fact, God is one and Christianity and Islam and Judaism are of the same opinion on this matter. Allah is God one in translation. wink
        1. Stena
          Stena 7 November 2015 17: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: Hello
          In fact, God is one and Christianity and Islam and Judaism are of the same opinion on this matter. Allah is God one in translation.

          God is without doubt one. But there are many religions. And there are many differences in them. The Orthodox - God in three guises - God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit ... And we glorify him. The Orthodox do not need another ...
          1. Rivares
            Rivares 9 November 2015 00: 25 New
            -1
            Quote: Stena
            God is without doubt one. But there are many religions. And there are many differences in them. The Orthodox - God in three guises - God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit ... And we glorify him. The Orthodox do not need another ...

            This is the Christian. Orthodox Rights glorify (abbreviated Slavs)
            Orthodox Christians have forgotten the Trinity (God the Father has the name Yahweh) to add for example Messrs. Of hosts. By the way, about the one you glorify ... listen in church to whom priests sing glory, hear the glorifications of both Israel and the people of Israel, but I have not heard from them the glorification of the Russian people and the Russian land ..
            1. Stena
              Stena 9 November 2015 15: 44 New
              0
              You tell your grandmothers and give a device for removing noodles from your ears ...
              Когда читают псалмы - естественно - ведь их писал царь Давид .. А вот когда поют - " .... власти и воинста ея" - это о России.
              1. Rivares
                Rivares 9 November 2015 18: 22 New
                0
                "Ещё молимся о Богохранимой стране нашей, властях и воинстве её, да тихую и безмятежную жизнь проведём во всяком благочестии и чистоте"
                this is the full text of what you misplaced. This is not the glorification of Russia or Russian and
                prayer (it is also supposed to pray for enemies). The glorification of Israel and its people is pronounced openly.
                Quote: Stena
                А вот когда поют - " .... власти и воинста ея" - это о России.

                The name of the country is not even in prayer, because texts of sv. the scriptures were not written in Russia and not for Russians. And by the way, where did you get that Russian in power? Judging by recent events (the collapse of the USSR and liberal reforms), not everything is so simple ...
                1. Stena
                  Stena 9 November 2015 21: 06 New
                  0
                  Quote: Rivares
                  We still pray for our God-protected country, its authorities and its host, and we will lead a quiet and serene life in all piety and purity

                  True, but not to the end.
                  А точно будет - "Ещё молимся о Богохранимой стране нашей российской, властях и воинстве её, да тихую и безмятежную жизнь проведём во всяком благочестии и чистоте".
                  These are words from a common prayer. Who led her to the fact that she is now?
                  They are mainly prayers of forgiveness to God, or his glorification, not the glorification of individual countries and people. For some reason, you smoothly moved away from what I was talking about, namely, the glorification of the God of Orthodox Christians, to the glorification of countries.
                  What you write about is very dangerous - there is understanding, but there is no faith. No faith - no common cause. No common business - no state. No need to bring knowledge to the point of absurdity. Faith is not that. Tell me - are you a graduate of the parish school?
                  1. Rivares
                    Rivares 9 November 2015 22: 54 New
                    0
                    Quote: Stena
                    For some reason, you smoothly moved away from what I was talking about, namely, the glorification of the God of Orthodox Christians, to the glorification of countries.

                    I did not move out; I brought the full text to the passage you have issued.
                    Quote: Stena
                    What you write about is very dangerous - there is understanding, but there is no faith. No faith - no common cause. No common business - no state. No need to bring knowledge to the point of absurdity. Faith is not that. Tell me - are you a graduate of the parish school?

                    Faith without understanding does not exist. There is no understanding, the common thing at best is the good intention by which the road is lined, you yourself know where. I did not study in the parish church.
                    When the Old Russian began to disassemble, I had to Christianity, Orthodoxy, and other religions to enter in order to read the texts normally.
                    1. Stena
                      Stena 10 November 2015 11: 07 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Rivares
                      When the Old Russian began to disassemble, I had to Christianity, Orthodoxy, and other religions to enter in order to read the texts normally.

                      To understand Orthodoxy, you need to know Church Slavonic. This is quite enough. But in Old Russian you can’t read church texts ...
                      Quote: Rivares
                      Faith without understanding does not exist.

                      Of course it does. You do not study physics and not any science. No doubt knowledge is needed there.
                      That which is impossible to understand can either be believed or denied. Believers - believe, atheists - deny. But denial in this case is a lack of faith. Like cold, lack of heat, darkness, lack of light, and evil, lack of good.
                      You know, there is a paradox. Previously, graduates of parish schools almost all became atheists and even godless. Strange - they were taught the intricacies of religion, they knew the Holy Scriptures, the lives of the saints, and various theoretical aspects of religion. But for some reason, instead of faith, a vacuum formed in them. And instead of becoming priests or simply Orthodox, they became atheists. Hence the conclusion - knowledge has nothing to do with faith in God. At all.
                      Your judgments are completely analogous to their judgments.
                      I do not know why this happened and is probably happening, but there is a suspicion that the lack of knowledge. Believe either people who know little, or vice versa - who know the matter thoroughly. But those who have insufficient real knowledge, but have some kind of understanding - for some reason - no ...
                      PS This is solely my opinion. It may not coincide with reality. Regards, AKC.
                      1. Rivares
                        Rivares 12 November 2015 00: 26 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Stena
                        To understand Orthodoxy, you need to know Church Slavonic. This is quite enough. But in Old Russian you can’t read church texts ...

                        Church Slavonic was created by removing letters from Old Slavonic. Created by the Greeks. And not Orthodoxy, but Orthodox Christianity. Orthodoxy was what the priests now call idolatry (therefore, at the genetic level, Orthodoxy is perceived as native). Church texts are PHONETICALLY well read in Old Russian. Are you using old Russian letters to read modern text? Although the language has lost its depth.
                        Quote: Stena
                        That which is impossible to understand can either be believed or denied.

                        small addition. There are more than 2 answers. 1-understand (cognize) 2-deny. 3-trust that it is (what is before faith (Doverie)) 4-destroy it as a competing one (remember the Inquisition), etc.
                        Quote: Stena
                        You know, there is a paradox. Previously, graduates of parish schools almost all became atheists and even godless. Strange - they were taught the intricacies of religion, they knew the Holy Scriptures, the lives of the saints, and various theoretical aspects of religion. But for some reason, instead of faith, a vacuum formed in them. And instead of becoming priests or simply Orthodox, they became atheists. Hence the conclusion - knowledge has nothing to do with faith in God. At all.

                        There is no paradox, they delved into religion, understood its essence (quite parasitic by the way), and worthy people acted with dignity - they rejected it. Others understood the freebie and began to use it. Units tried to change from the inside (they became real saints). But the backbone of the hierarchy is still those ...)))
                        И меня кстати не устраивает ответ в стиле "А ты не спрашивай-ты верь!"
                        With mutual respect.
          2. Jack-b
            Jack-b 9 November 2015 11: 45 New
            0
            Quote: Stena
            .He and glorify him. Orthodox do not need another

            And no one is imposing. So you do not impose on others. The Syrians have Allah, so why not wish them help from him. What is the problem?
            1. Stena
              Stena 9 November 2015 15: 48 New
              +1
              The problem is that you have porridge in your head ... The Syrians are far from it. There are Orthodox and other denominations carriage. Are you an Islamist? Not? Then do not wish for that which you do not understand. It would be very funny for the faithful to hear such words from the infidel, if it were not so sad ...
              1. Jack-b
                Jack-b 9 November 2015 17: 57 New
                0
                Посмотри видео на ютубе от САА. Послушай кому они там "далеко не ему" кричат акбар. Потом в зеркало на себя погляди. Знаток религий ..... Ты, я полагаю, из тех кого зовут православными активистами?
                1. Rivares
                  Rivares 9 November 2015 18: 08 New
                  0
                  Quote: Jack-B
                  Послушай кому они там "далеко не ему" кричат акбар. Потом в зеркало на себя погляди. Знаток религий ..... Ты, я полагаю, из тех кого зовут православными активистами?

                  To laugh and insult different religions, it is simple and accessible to any child.
                  But to understand what other people (or your enemies) live and breathe is much more difficult.
                2. Stena
                  Stena 9 November 2015 21: 34 New
                  0
                  Quote: Jack-B
                  You, I suppose, from those who are called Orthodox activists

                  Not. I have no relation. I love the truth. If offended - sorry - this is due to lack of brains and tact ...
                  1. Jack-b
                    Jack-b 10 November 2015 05: 55 New
                    0
                    Если конечно доколупываться до мелочей, то в Сирии конечно есть христиане, но их меньшинство. И воюют в основном мусульмане конечно. ИМХО желать им помощи от их бога не противоречит логике. Во первых пожелавший может быть атеистом. И для него это всего лишь формальность но приятная и важная для тех кому желает. Во вторых если христианин то тоже нет противоречия ибо христиане считают что бог един. И мусульмане по этой логике просто называют его по своему, согласно своей традиции. Так что пожелание помощи от Аллаха просто пожелание выраженное согласно их понимания, но по сути пожелания помощи от Бога. Кстати многие течения ислама не считают христиан неверными. С их точки зрения христиане типа "заблуждающиеся", т.е. верящие в того же бога что и они но с некоторыми "ошибками". Неверными христиан считают радикальные ответвления ислама. Но среди них есть и такие что и мусульман других течений считают неверными.
                    1. Stena
                      Stena 10 November 2015 11: 14 New
                      0
                      Quote: Jack-B
                      then in Syria there are certainly Christians, but their minority

                      I will not argue - so to clarify this you need to look at the statistics, but I - reluctance.
                      Quote: Jack-B
                      Secondly, if the Christian is also no contradiction, for Christians believe that God is one.

                      Right. But not really. The Orthodox God is one - and this is God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. And no other way. But not Allah.
                      Quote: Jack-B
                      And Muslims by this logic simply call it their own way, according to their tradition.

                      Unfortunately, this is a very big mistake.
                      Quote: Jack-B
                      Кстати многие течения ислама не считают христиан неверными. С их точки зрения христиане типа "заблуждающиеся", т.е. верящие в того же бога что и они но с некоторыми "ошибками". Неверными христиан считают радикальные ответвления ислама. Но среди них есть и такие что и мусульман других течений считают неверными.

                      In this - I agree with you completely.
    6. boroda64
      boroda64 7 November 2015 01: 16 New
      0
      ....
      - there are Christians
      / and even Orthodox /
  2. Irokez
    Irokez 6 November 2015 14: 48 New
    +5
    It seems that before the storming of the neighborhoods, bombs that explode bunkers underground should be thrown along the streets. Thus, all the moves and exits for the shaitans will be littered and will have to fight only on the surface. And to use a vacuum bomb on the surface, there are still no residents and to rebuild houses on a new one, as well as eliminating the ruins at the same time.
  3. Wolverine
    Wolverine 6 November 2015 14: 49 New
    +2
    I don’t understand prisoners, I don’t understand yours - it’s not rolling here.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 November 2015 14: 51 New
    +6
    Good news. The Syrian army started and crushed reptiles. It’s just not very clear why everywhere and a little at once? Didn’t they learn the concentration of forces and means of their generals? Or maybe they didn’t.
    1. Altona
      Altona 6 November 2015 15: 01 New
      16
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      It’s just not very clear why everywhere and a little at once? Didn’t they learn the concentration of forces and means of their generals? Or maybe they didn’t.

      ----------------------
      Because the front is achirenous, because there are three or four floors of underground catacombs in the city, because they have been fighting for four years and lost the materiel ... It would be good to regroup and reorganize the Syrian army, to renew the materiel ... The war greatly affected the capabilities of the Syrian army ...
      1. Cossack Ermak
        Cossack Ermak 6 November 2015 16: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: Altona
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        It’s just not very clear why everywhere and a little at once? Didn’t they learn the concentration of forces and means of their generals? Or maybe they didn’t.

        ----------------------
        Because the front is achirenous, because there are three or four floors of underground catacombs in the city, because they have been fighting for four years and lost the materiel ... It would be good to regroup and reorganize the Syrian army, to renew the materiel ... The war greatly affected the capabilities of the Syrian army ...

        But because there is no concept at all like a front. 1 street for Assad, the second for ISIS, the third itself does not know what it has imagined and is fighting against both of them. And the village on the outskirts sits and waits who will win and join.

        We need a sweep tactic, as in Chechnya. But the Asadites have no such experience.
    2. maiman61
      maiman61 6 November 2015 15: 28 New
      +7
      I think our advisers lead there! And they know what to do!
  5. roskot
    roskot 6 November 2015 14: 51 New
    14
    Good luck and minimum losses I would like to wish the fighters of government troops.
  6. NordUral
    NordUral 6 November 2015 14: 52 New
    12
    It's a pity. that tanks are unprotected. Good luck to the Syrians!
    1. Awaz
      Awaz 6 November 2015 17: 15 New
      0
      Well, I saw videos where tanks with mounted active armor. T 72
  7. Anisim1977
    Anisim1977 6 November 2015 14: 53 New
    +2
    They should not be taken prisoner! Especially betraying the ideals of Russia and becoming cattle.
  8. Aroma77
    Aroma77 6 November 2015 14: 55 New
    +9
    Hard of course they are given promotion. I would like every broken house not to come back. Meanwhile, there is such stuffing of these groups and this shaitan pipe.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 6 November 2015 15: 10 New
      +6
      Offensive of the SAR Army: Damascus-controlled suburbs cut off from each other

      Кстати оказывается "многострадальный" район Дамаска Джобар который не могут отбить уже четыре года у различных террористов - это оказывается еврейский квартал города belay
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 6 November 2015 15: 37 New
        0
        you look at all this rabble, and you are perplexed: how do they and their fau still push the government army? request
      2. Mordan
        Mordan 6 November 2015 15: 52 New
        0
        TURKS right now transmit in the news Russian planes hit the province of Raqqah, killing 42 people all civilians ....
        1. barsik92090
          barsik92090 6 November 2015 18: 52 New
          +3
          И все- турки?! Что они там "мирные" делали?
          1. alone
            alone 6 November 2015 18: 58 New
            -3
            Quote: barsik92090
            И все- турки?! Что они там "мирные" делали?

            If the media of Papua New Guinea would transmit this information, does it mean that only Papuans live there?

            Well, you have the logic.
        2. barsik92090
          barsik92090 6 November 2015 18: 52 New
          0
          И все- турки?! Что они там "мирные" делали?
    2. Mayer1980
      Mayer1980 9 November 2015 10: 22 New
      0
      on 5.17 dances perfectly with a machine gun laughing
  9. Aroma77
    Aroma77 6 November 2015 15: 02 New
    13
    Quote: NordUral
    It's a pity. that tanks are unprotected. Good luck to the Syrians!

    Why without protection, here the BMD goes all in defense.
    1. dr.star75
      dr.star75 6 November 2015 15: 44 New
      +3
      reminiscent of muzzle-loading mortars of 1812. how do they get somewhere?
      1. alone
        alone 6 November 2015 19: 00 New
        +4
        Quote: dr.star75
        reminiscent of muzzle-loading mortars of 1812. how do they get somewhere?


        This is most likely home-made 160mm mortars. The Syrian army had hundreds of such pieces. For 4,5 years, a lot of military depots fell into the hands of the militants, and they were able to establish the production of such mortars, as we see even double-barreled.

        This is what happens when you drop military depots and run away without even trying to blow them up.
        1. Rader
          Rader 6 November 2015 22: 36 New
          0
          Quote: dr.star75
          reminiscent of muzzle-loading mortars of 1812.how do they get somewhere?

          You won’t miss the city, and they don’t need better accuracy.
          This is most likely home-made 160mm mortars. The Syrian army had hundreds of such pieces. For 4,5 years, a lot of military depots fell into the hands of the militants, and they were able to establish the production of such mortars, as we see even double-barreled.

          They (the Islamists) have been using such mortars for a very long time, almost from the beginning of the war. They are made from all kinds of rubbish, and they are bristled with gas cylinders filled with explosives and striking elements.
        2. poquello
          poquello 6 November 2015 23: 11 New
          0
          Quote: lonely
          .
          This is what happens when you drop military depots and run away without even trying to blow them up.

          and then the weapons in the warehouses copulate and he gives birth to babies
          fighters of the Syrian Arab army more than once found suspiciously new Soviet-style weapons in the killed militants

          http://geo-politica.info/vskryt-kanal-postavki-oruzhiya-boevikam-igil-amerikants
          ami.html
  10. SAM 5
    SAM 5 6 November 2015 15: 04 New
    +1
    We met with our air support. And so kirdyk would have come. Well, win.
  11. AlexTires
    AlexTires 6 November 2015 15: 06 New
    +6
    Despite such news, the general trend is that the offensive is drowning and we should expect a pause from the SAR army for regrouping ...
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 November 2015 15: 09 New
      +6
      Quote: AlexTires
      Despite such news, the general trend is that the offensive is drowning and we should expect a pause from the SAR army for regrouping ...

      If Iran doesn’t help with ground forces, the Syrians will have to be taut in the future. The Army is now bloodless and, by and large, exhausted in 4,5 years. hi
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 6 November 2015 15: 14 New
        12
        Quote: NEXUS
        Despite such news, the general trend is that the offensive is drowning and we should expect a pause from the SAR army to regroup.

        Well, what to do is a war and it has been going on for more than 4 years.
        Quote: NEXUS
        If Iran doesn’t help with ground forces, the Syrians will have to be taut in the future. The Army is now bloodless and, by and large, exhausted in 4,5 years.

        Already there are photos about the presence of the Iranian army so far from near Aleppo.

        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 6 November 2015 20: 43 New
          +4
          Quote: quilted jacket

          Already there are photos about the presence of the Iranian army so far from near Aleppo.]

          Well, this is no secret to anyone.
          Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Rai reports, citing a “senior source in the joint operations headquarters in Damascus” on the details of the organization of ongoing military operations on the territory of the ATS.
          The source says: “Russian aviation is quickly fulfilling the demands of ground forces, while continuing to strike at targets in a jointly created database. The base is constantly replenished - both through electronic intelligence, Internet tracking, aerial photography, and thanks to the vigorous activity of government agents introduced into almost all rebel groups and units. ”
          The source said that Syrian, Iranian and Russian generals, as well as representatives of the Hezbollah high command, are working together in the operational headquarters. According to the source, the critical task of unblocking the Hama Aleppo highway in the Ihtiriya-Khanassir region was entrusted to the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps of a thousand people and Hezbollah units.
          The operation was carried out with direct Russian air support. The Russian Su-30 and Syrian MiG-29 patrolled Syrian airspace in order to prevent the intervention of aviation of foreign states (Americans and Israelis), while the Su-24 and Su-25 were operating on the battlefield. As a result of the successful offensive of the Iranians and Hezbollah, the road to Aleppo was unblocked and government control was restored over a strategically important area of ​​25 square kilometers. In this boiler, the ISIS group was completely destroyed.
          In Syria, there is a Liva Sayed al-Shuhada corps of guards of the Islamic revolution. Its number has reached 4 thousand people and continues to grow. Brigade units operate in different parts of Syria. The Iranian presence in Syria will only grow as Iran considers the battle with the Islamic State one of the priorities of its own national security. The source emphasized: "It is much more convenient for us to wage war against extremists in the lands of Sham than to wait when we are attacked in our own home - Iran."
          The source emphasized: “We are talking about full, comprehensive cooperation at the military level between Syria. Russia, Iran and Hezbollah. Everyone feels like a member of a homogeneous team, depending on trust in each other on the battlefield, and everyone knows his own and fulfills his duty. Even if it comes to failure, the parties do not try to shift the blame on each other, but on the contrary, analyze errors together in order to achieve better results in this long battle. Russia provides everything that is needed without any delay. It is assumed that the intensification of hostilities on all fronts, Russian planes will make hundreds of sorties per day. "
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 6 November 2015 21: 54 New
            0
            Quote: Aron Zaavi
            Well, this is no secret to anyone.

            It's no secret, of course, but these are the first photos, as claimed by the Iranian military personnel directly involved in the fighting and not advisers.
    2. 3 Gorynych
      3 Gorynych 6 November 2015 15: 12 New
      +6
      Unlike Russia, they do not have Siberia + D.Vostok! Reinforcements only from abroad can be expected.
  12. NEXUS
    NEXUS 6 November 2015 15: 07 New
    +3
    Хорошо бы по городу "СМЕРЧАМИ" пройтись ,да бетонобойными бомбами,чтоб не на земле не под ней у этих "вояк ислама" покоя не было.Завалить все подземные ходы,чтоб как крысы на свет белый повылазили...а там и "Смерчами" ровнять с землей,чтоб даже хоронить нечего было,землю засорять.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 6 November 2015 15: 24 New
      +3
      Quote: NEXUS
      Завалить все подземные ходы,чтоб как крысы на свет белый повылазили...а там и "Смерчами" ровнять с землей,чтоб даже хоронить нечего было,землю засорять.

      About the underground passages that the terrorists dig:

      "Свежие" Т-72Б по всей видимости из России:
      1. dr.star75
        dr.star75 6 November 2015 15: 51 New
        0
        And the clock on his right hand, like Putin’s! Does he also want him to be their president? lol
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 6 November 2015 17: 13 New
          +3
          Quote: dr.star75
          And the clock on his right hand, like Putin’s! Does he also want him to be their president?

          Maybe they want smile
  13. NKVD
    NKVD 6 November 2015 15: 23 New
    13
    I think not without the help of our turntables
  14. Belarus
    Belarus 6 November 2015 15: 24 New
    +6
    They didn’t take prisoners, they didn’t leave a single chance to destroy all terrorists. Assad was a good fellow that did not bend under the shit and Russia helped in time.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 November 2015 15: 36 New
      +9
      Quote: Belarus
      They didn’t take prisoners, they didn’t leave a single chance to destroy all terrorists. Assad was a good fellow that did not bend under the shit and Russia helped in time.

      Могут не сдюжить без Ирана и его наземных сил.Армия сирийцев обескровлена и измотана. Иран должен открыть второй фронт,тогда дожмут эту гадину без "контрибуций и пактов",чтоб и памяти об этих выродках на земле не осталось.Ну а наши "пернатые" не подведут и помогут,тут нет сомнений. hi
  15. cniza
    cniza 6 November 2015 15: 25 New
    +4
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Good news. The Syrian army started and crushed reptiles. It’s just not very clear why everywhere and a little at once? Didn’t they learn the concentration of forces and means of their generals? Or maybe they didn’t.



    God grant them strength, they have been fighting for four years.
  16. bankirchik34
    bankirchik34 6 November 2015 15: 25 New
    +2
    Now the question is not idle, what will happen when they are squeezed out from the territory of Syria, where will they then begin to climb?
  17. cniza
    cniza 6 November 2015 15: 27 New
    +4
    Quote: Belarus
    They didn’t take prisoners, they didn’t leave a single chance to destroy all terrorists. Assad was a good fellow that did not bend under the shit and Russia helped in time.



    Assad cannot be envied, but he is well done and victory will be his.
  18. cniza
    cniza 6 November 2015 15: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: bankirchik34
    Now the question is not idle, what will happen when they are squeezed out from the territory of Syria, where will they then begin to climb?



    Therefore, there is the question of destruction, and everywhere they will come out including with us, but by a smaller number.
  19. Bugor
    Bugor 6 November 2015 15: 30 New
    +3
    No matter how much I watch the video from there, there is practically no support for aviation at the forefront. No materiel left? It is clear that 4 years of war, but so ...
    Ours only work on reserves and on the rear, it is understandable, but have the Syrians themselves already killed all helicopters?
  20. Mordan
    Mordan 6 November 2015 15: 31 New
    +6
    Turks are offended by locomotive fans ... will complain to UEFA.
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 8 November 2015 23: 44 New
      0
      Quote: Mordan
      Turks are offended by locomotive fans ... will complain to UEFA.

      ====
      they’ll do it right, but their fans are no better
  21. Lapot
    Lapot 6 November 2015 16: 05 New
    +5
    Combat sorties of Su-24M bombers from Khmeimim air base:
  22. Support
    Support 6 November 2015 16: 39 New
    16
    People. Be serious. How can I draw any conclusions from the video and pictures. And, Mlyn, many as swift as diarrhea - a month the aircraft only bombed, and you already have victory over almost all of Syria. There, for more than 4 years, the diving ladies built various shelters, communications. In the earth like moles. Try a smoke. As if many in the Army did not serve. Ugh.
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  24. Alexvl
    Alexvl 6 November 2015 17: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: xan
    Quote: Cossack Ermak
    It’s good that we switched to real actions.

    There along the way, the Syrian army has big problems. For almost a month of the offensive, not a single task has been solved, and this is with the intensive support of aviation. They don’t finish something with us. And with TV propaganda, there’s already too much, ISIS’s combat effectiveness is not falling, and aviation is not capable of drastically increasing the combat capability of Assad’s army. It is necessary to stop the offensive and prepare a new one with another chip.

    The liberation of Aleppo will be the first real success. Yet the second largest city. Still, the suburbs of Damascus to clear completely.
  25. fif21
    fif21 6 November 2015 17: 57 New
    0
    Map to see.
    1. ded-mazai
      ded-mazai 8 November 2015 18: 52 New
      +1
      I look here
      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJYTWSkA6BjVKaw9ha3AgiQ
  26. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 6 November 2015 17: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: NEXUS
    you will fight for 4,5 years with a well-trained and equipped enemy ... Syria, alone for 4 years, is holding back this abomination, and they don’t agree on that.


    Уважаемый скажу, что "не договаривают". То что по телевизору не объяснишь, но то что знает всякий бывавший в Сирии. Ее в свое время "спас" от такого же хаоса отец Башара - Хафез. Как спас? А так, что и в Сирии и странах вокруг заработал кличку "арабский мясник".
    The country is split, half at the word Ba'ath grabs the gun and hates Bashar simply because he is Assad.

    Вы называете оппозицонеров "хорошо подготовленными и укомплектованными". С чего бы это? А с того, что половина оппозиции это и есть бывшая Сирийская армия. Армия отступала бросив вооружение, технику и боеприпасы т.к. воевать за Ассада не хотела. И уничтожаем мы эту самую технику. Группировок же поддерживаемые Саудитами в оппозиции меньшинство. Американских вообще не видно.
    И почему это "В ОДИНОЧКУ 4 года сдерживает"? Вы в курсе, что Хезбола контролирует значительные территории и в постоянном боевом контакте с оппозицией? А про Иранцев? А про Курдов? А христианские анклавы? И еще и еще...уж молчу, сколько боеприпасов и вооружения мы влили.
    They are fighting ISIS, but no one except Hezbola (even Iran) wants Bashar's victory.

    И еще вопрос: Почему доблестная регулярная армия "не хорошо подготовлена и укомплектована"? Может с ней что-то не так?
    Why did one of the most armed armies give most of the territory no news to the enemy who had no country or army? Why in the suburbs of Damascus enclaves into which it is not close to close.
    А может дело в том, что Сирийская армия воюет сама с собой? И "Сирийский народ" тоже? В первые годы это было видно не вооруженным глазом. У Сирийской армии вдруг почти исчезла пехота! Просто в пехоте служили определенные группы населения и они ушли, кто домой а кто в боевики (обычно с оружием, командирами и боеприпасами). В бой шли одни танки, самолеты и бронетехника. Что бывает от такой войны объяснять думаю не нужно. Танки и самолеты города и села не контролируют, но хорошо озлобляют население. Сейчас технику повыбили и пехота появилась но тоже мало. Что-то не поднимается волна народного гнева против агрессоров Саудитов и пр. Дым рассаеялся и силы распределились по национально-религиозному принципу. Но никто не готов поддерживать Ассада.
    Note, we also didn’t painfully support Bashar proper about his party in general rarely say This is good for our TV. And for the Middle East and professional diplomats, standing next to Assad is a bad manners. We always rescued him as if distancing ourselves. Probably they were waiting for the leader to appear to whom it would be to transfer power, but it did not grow together. And when it became obvious that Assad was about to fall, I had to intervene because Assad’s departure meant leaving us from the Middle East. And we couldn’t go for it.
    Even now, Assad and his Ba'ath are ready to merge, but so far there is no one to bet on. So you need to crush the rebels so that they sit at the same table with Assad in order to change him to their own man.
    The victory of the Assad army in all of Syria looks illusory with arbitrarily powerful air support. The task is to clear the suburbs of Damascus, Aleppo and the roads to the enclaves of Assad supporters. The direction of our strikes is what they say. There is no talk of a large-scale land company of the Assad Army.
    Our operation, however, is coercion to a world beneficial to us. Syria is a nightmare neither Chechnya nor Ukraine nor Afghanistan can be compared.
    It is horror without end and without exit. So supporting our participation in this is possible and necessary, but only THROUGH Tears!
    1. 2806 Mikhail
      2806 Mikhail 6 November 2015 18: 37 New
      0
      you yourself are not afraid of what you wrote? The alarmists were shot and they did it right .. and it was worse than the situation in the world when they won
      1. alone
        alone 6 November 2015 18: 47 New
        +1
        Quote: 2806michael
        you yourself are not afraid of what you wrote? The alarmists were shot and they did it right .. and it was worse than the situation in the world when they won


        Where did you see the panic? 95% of what is written is bitter, but true. Just sympathizing with Assad, many forum users, just like you, do not want to notice things that everyone knows for a long time.
        1. NyeMoNik70
          NyeMoNik70 6 November 2015 20: 16 New
          +1
          "...симпатизируя Асаду многие форумчане,также как и Вы,не хотят замечать вещи ,которые давно всем известно." Редкого ума экспердтиза, всё путём, % вычисленны. Как там Карабах?
          And we sympathize with Assad and the people of Syria. They fight killers together.
          1. alone
            alone 6 November 2015 20: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: NyeMoNik70
            How is Karabakh?

            It discusses Syria, not Karabakh, my dear.

            Quote: NyeMoNik70
            And we sympathize with Assad and the people of Syria. They fight killers together.


            You can sympathize with someone. Nobody forbids this. In your opinion, an entire army and people in unity cannot defeat 4,5 thousand militants for 100 years because of the cordon who do not have support in Syria. But they managed to lose 4,5% over these 60 years territories and almost all weapons. How can this be, can you explain?

            Is it really difficult to understand that, Syria is a country. Where the minority occupies all the supremacy in the country, and the majority has nothing. In this situation, it is not surprising that it was so easy to rock all of Syria. The Sunnis were unhappy, and they are 70% of the total population in Syria. Are you really I don’t know that as soon as the events of 100 thousand soldiers and officers of the Syrian army with weapons in their hands went over to the other side. Did you really find out that many settlements were repulsed by the Syrian government’s troops? Many police stations and state security departments captured and destroyed by the Syrians themselves. the first 50 foreign fighters appeared there a year after the conflict began. It was not ISIS but Libyans. ISIS and al-Qaeda appeared later.

            The country had to be managed in such a way that it was not possible to shake it from the outside. If somehow this happened, then the Syrian authorities are to blame and how the Supreme Command and President Assad bear full direct responsibility.

            Knowing the mentality of the East, knowing the eastern peoples is much better than you, I know what I write and say. And if you think that I am a sectarian, I’m a Shiite. I despise Wahhabis, Ishil and other terror offspring and I know what Wahhabi terror is by hearsay. I have the honor
            1. poquello
              poquello 7 November 2015 00: 54 New
              0
              Quote: lonely

              You can sympathize with someone. Nobody forbids this. In your opinion, an entire army and people in unity cannot defeat 4,5 thousand militants for 100 years because of the cordon who do not have support in Syria. But they managed to lose 4,5% over these 60 years territories and almost all weapons. How can this be, can you explain?

              Is it really difficult to understand that, Syria is a country. Where the minority occupies all the supremacy in the country, and most have nothing ....

              Well, as it were, re-read your text and ask the reverse question about 4 years
          2. Hello
            Hello 6 November 2015 22: 11 New
            -4
            Quote: NyeMoNik70
            How is Karabakh?

            And how is Khatyn there? What was it all about? Or do we have a stereotypes ball?
            Quote: NyeMoNik70
            They fight killers together.

            Using a little other Hezbollah killers for example.
            Quote: NyeMoNik70
            And we sympathize with Assad and the people of Syria.

            I'm happy for you.
            1. Weyland
              Weyland 7 November 2015 02: 26 New
              +6
              Quote: Hello
              Using a little other Hezbollah killers for example.


              if your enemies from Hezbollah are fighting your enemies from ISIS, you just have to, as in that joke, ask the goldfish for only a cup of coffee! laughing
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        2. xan
          xan 6 November 2015 22: 28 New
          +5
          Quote: lonely
          95% of what is written is bitter, but pure truth. Just sympathizing with Assad, many forum users, like you, do not want to notice things that everyone knows for a long time.

          Bullshit, not true. Assad Alavit, his wife is Shiite, half the headquarters of the Syrian army are Shiites, the other half are Sunita. But they want to divide the secular society of Syria on a religious basis, because otherwise they will not raise the Syrians to fight Assad. Open your eyes, before the intervention of the trap and the sheikhs there was no civil war.
          1. atalef
            atalef 6 November 2015 22: 38 New
            -1
            Quote: xan
            Bullshit, not true. Assad Alavit, his wife is Shiite,

            Is she a shiite? I'm not sure, I think Sunni. Although what does it matter in the Arab mentality. woman never played a role
            Quote: xan
            the tin of the headquarters of the Syrian Shiite army, the other half are Sunita

            Shiites? - I doubt it.
            Sunnis - of course there are, but are perceived as traitors
            Quote: xan
            But they want to divide the secular society of Syria on a religious basis

            Secular society of Syria - a new joke.
            It’s like a secular society in Chechnya.
            religion has always been of great importance in Syria, and especially in rural areas
            Quote: xan
            because otherwise you won’t raise the Syrians to fight Assad.

            I would look at you. if all power in Russia belonged (well, say to the Tatars), all businesses and grandmas. among Tatars, all the highest positions belong to Tatars. The urban population is mainly Tatars, and the Russians (most 70%, just the proportions are respected) - in villages and poverty (with the exception of some close ones) - you would need Orthodoxy to rise to fight? Or first you would pick up a club, and then you would find religious premises in it.
          2. padded jacket
            padded jacket 6 November 2015 22: 50 New
            +2
            Quote: xan
            Bullshit, not true. Assad Alavit, his wife is Shiite, half the headquarters of the Syrian army are Shiites, the other half are Sunita.

            Абсолютно верно в Сирийской Арабской Армии воюют как шииты, алавиты, христиане, друзы так и сунниты. Это только "поджигатели" этой войны и спонсоры террористов США, Израиль, ваххабиты пытаются представить её как войну между различными течениями ислама на самом деле это война вменяемых мировых сил с фанатиками, наёмниками да и просто убийцами которые действуют при поддержке некоторых всем известных режимов.
            1. Ahmed
              Ahmed 7 November 2015 00: 12 New
              +1
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Quote: xan
              Bullshit, not true. Assad Alavit, his wife is Shiite, half the headquarters of the Syrian army are Shiites, the other half are Sunita.

              Абсолютно верно в Сирийской Арабской Армии воюют как шииты, алавиты, христиане, друзы так и сунниты. Это только "поджигатели" этой войны и спонсоры террористов США, Израиль, ваххабиты пытаются представить её как войну между различными течениями ислама на самом деле это война вменяемых мировых сил с фанатиками, наёмниками да и просто убийцами которые действуют при поддержке некоторых всем известных режимов.


              Герр Reichsminister, вы степень по востоковедению имеете? Или очередное недержание словесного пузыря? Можно новую рубрику на ВО открыть - "Вечерние вбросы от Ватника" laughing
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        3. poquello
          poquello 7 November 2015 00: 12 New
          0
          Quote: lonely
          Quote: 2806michael
          you yourself are not afraid of what you wrote? The alarmists were shot and they did it right .. and it was worse than the situation in the world when they won


          Where did you see the panic? 95% of what is written is bitter, but true. Just sympathizing with Assad, many forum users, just like you, do not want to notice things that everyone knows for a long time.

          70% rest neatly mixed lies
      2. atalef
        atalef 6 November 2015 18: 58 New
        +2
        Quote: 2806michael
        you yourself are not afraid of what you wrote? The alarmists were shot and they did it right .. and it was worse than the situation in the world when they won

        He wrote everything correctly, what doesn’t suit you in his comment?
        1. poquello
          poquello 7 November 2015 00: 16 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: 2806michael
          you yourself are not afraid of what you wrote? The alarmists were shot and they did it right .. and it was worse than the situation in the world when they won

          He wrote everything correctly, what doesn’t suit you in his comment?

          elementary - which year does the opposition not agree to democratic elections?
      3. Catafract
        Catafract 6 November 2015 22: 47 New
        -1
        а че так нервничаешь то если это "паникерство"? Потому что правда и там идет таки гражданская война?
    2. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 6 November 2015 20: 29 New
      0
      All this is so. But for Russia, not everything is so bad. After all, Syria is not a fixed idea. Not the first country that broke up and not the last. But this is the most pessimistic forecast after connecting Russia (before that, all non-Sunnis could become refugees or headless).
    3. g1v2
      g1v2 6 November 2015 20: 55 New
      0
      I do not agree with half theses, but I won’t put a minus. The point of view is justified and has the right to exist.
    4. miru mir
      miru mir 6 November 2015 21: 09 New
      +3
      I think you are wrong about Iran - they support Assad a priori hi
      1. KG_patriot_last
        KG_patriot_last 6 November 2015 21: 21 New
        +1
        What is there about Hamas and the PNA? How do they feel when their patrons are fighting (Turkey, Saudi / Qatar, Iran, Hezbollah and Assad with the Islamic State?) For whom are they?
        1. miru mir
          miru mir 6 November 2015 21: 28 New
          0
          Salam, land hi
          FILYSTINS go to ISIS to be recruited — such information slipped.
          1. KG_patriot_last
            KG_patriot_last 6 November 2015 21: 45 New
            +1
            It turns out that Hezbollah and Assad will be very disappointed in them and stop helping as before?
            1. miru mir
              miru mir 6 November 2015 22: 00 New
              +2
              They did not help. FILYSTINS under the patronage of Qatar, Saudis, etc ...
            2. alone
              alone 6 November 2015 22: 07 New
              +1
              Quote: KG_patriot_last
              It turns out that Hezbollah and Assad will be very disappointed in them and stop helping as before?

              Palestinians are Sunnis, and Iran and Hezbollah are Shiites. Shiites will never help the Sunni. Moreover, Shiite fanatics
              1. Hello
                Hello 6 November 2015 22: 14 New
                +1
                Quote: lonely
                Shiites will never help the Sunni.

                Hmm ... hello, I don’t quite agree, as far as I know, Iran has supplied rockets and weapons of its own production to Gaza. Rumors have it that it was giving money. Although you can’t do anything against the Zionists fellow
                1. miru mir
                  miru mir 6 November 2015 22: 42 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Hello
                  Although you can’t do anything against the Zionists

                  Yeah ... It's holy.
                  1. Hello
                    Hello 6 November 2015 22: 58 New
                    +4
                    Quote: miru mir
                    Yeah ... It's holy.

                    drinks Zionists they combine incompatible wassat
                    PS: Graduation cap wink
                    1. miru mir
                      miru mir 6 November 2015 23: 00 New
                      +1
                      I wear this everywhere drinks
        2. padded jacket
          padded jacket 6 November 2015 23: 27 New
          0
          Quote: KG_patriot_last
          What is there to hear about Hamas and the PNA?

          The Israelis are now very busy (of course, not the ones who are currently hiding in the basements) because the local Arabs switched from attacking with knives to fire from the firearm at the local Jewish population.
          1. miru mir
            miru mir 6 November 2015 23: 37 New
            +3
            What time! And who told you about the cellars, mahmud? Do not believe him, lying. And the attacks of the Alahbabahnakhites on the local population, as always, make you happy. This is your bestial ideology in you says.
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 6 November 2015 23: 50 New
              +2
              Quote: miru mir
              What time! And who told you about the cellars, Mahmoud? Do not believe him, lying. And the attacks of the Alahbabahahn on the local population, as always, make you happy

              Да прячетесь-прячетесь от страха в подвалы, а какие вы "воины" давно известно в четвером на одного нападать.
              Warriors smile


              Вот из-за того что вы с арабами так обращаетесь да к тому же и оккупировали их Родину - Палестину они вас и "убивают" а не из-за того что вы евреи.
              1. miru mir
                miru mir 6 November 2015 23: 56 New
                +1

                Homeland of the Arabs-Arabia, Mahmoud. And FILYstins from the back are strong children, women and the elderly cut.
                And then, do not shy away from the topic of the article.
                1. Weyland
                  Weyland 7 November 2015 02: 39 New
                  +1
                  Quote: miru mir
                  Homeland of the Arabs-Arabia, Mahmoud.


                  Yeah. And the motherland Palestinians - Palestine! That they are Arabs by languagedoes not mean that they are Arabs and blood.
                  By the way, from the point of view of genetics, EMNIP, among Jews, the descendants of Abraham make up only 21%, and among Palestinians - about 35% laughing
                  1. miru mir
                    miru mir 7 November 2015 09: 38 New
                    0
                    What nonsense you grind. Your FILYSTIN Brothers were suddenly born in 1968, and their mother is the KGB.
                    1. Weyland
                      Weyland 7 November 2015 10: 15 New
                      +3
                      Quote: miru mir
                      What nonsense are you grinding


                      Learn the materiel! Palestinians are the very Philistinesthat you clashed with right after the Exodus - and they came to Palestine just a little earlier than you (т.н. "народы моря"), всех хананеев там раздербанили вдребезги и пополам,но потом от египтян-таки огребли (в 1173 до Р.Х.). Но и египтяне потеряли столько войска и сил, что после этого в Палестину не лезли лет 250. Вот так евреям и повезло - сильно ослабленными оказались и хананеи, и филистимляне, и египтяне, а до этого у евреев шансов было столь мало, что после доклада разведки они с ходу з.а.с.с.а.л.и и даже хотели побить камнями Иешуа и Халева (надеюсь, хоть эту-то историю Вы знаете?) wink

                      PS By the way, the Palestinians are not brother to me: they are by blood closest relatives to you (hence the brotherly love, as ukrov to us - because they too the nearest relatives: envy for success brother куда сильнее зависти к успешному чужаку, ибо: "да чем он лучше меня!? am )
                      1. miru mir
                        miru mir 7 November 2015 10: 40 New
                        -3
                        Quote: Weyland
                        Palestinians are the very Philistines

                        And you are sending me the materiel to teach!

                        The so-called FILYSTINS have nothing to do with the peoples of the sea. Natural Arabian hodgepodge from all Arabostanov.
                    2. Weyland
                      Weyland 7 November 2015 10: 19 New
                      +1
                      Quote: miru mir
                      What nonsense are you grinding


                      Learn the materiel! Palestinians are the very Philistinesthat you clashed with right after the Exodus - and they came to Palestine just a little earlier than you (т.н. "народы моря"), всех хананеев там раздербанили вдребезги и пополам,но потом от египтян-таки огребли (в 1173 до Р.Х.). Но и египтяне потеряли столько войска и сил, что после этого в Палестину не лезли лет 250. Вот так евреям и повезло - сильно ослабленными оказались и хананеи, и филистимляне, и египтяне, а до этого у евреев шансов было столь мало, что после доклада разведки они с ходу з.а.с.с.а.л.и и даже хотели побить камнями Иешуа и Халева (надеюсь, хоть эту-то историю Вы знаете?) wink

                      PS By the way, the Palestinians are not brother to me: they are by blood closest relatives to you (hence the brotherly love, as ukrov to us - because they too the nearest relatives: envy for success brother куда сильнее зависти к успешному чужаку, ибо: "да чем он лучше меня!? am )
  27. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 6 November 2015 19: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: Abrekkos
    Our operation, however, is coercion to a world beneficial to us. Syria is a nightmare neither Chechnya nor Ukraine nor Afghanistan can be compared.
    It is horror without end and without exit. So supporting our participation in this is possible and necessary, but only THROUGH Tears!

    This is called alarmism ... Sorry! Russia got into this conflict for a reason and it works out pretty well, it takes time and EVERYTHING!
    1. alone
      alone 6 November 2015 20: 49 New
      -1


      ISIS got aviation? So they did it once, then they shot down enemy planes.

      Quote: MIKHAN
      Russia got into this conflict for a reason and it works out pretty well, it takes time and EVERYTHING!


      For the first time I agree. Only time will tell what will come of it.
      1. Homo
        Homo 6 November 2015 21: 33 New
        +8
        Quote: lonely
        ISIS got aviation? So they did it once, then they shot down enemy planes.

        Are you talking about attack aircraft or bombers?
        1. alone
          alone 6 November 2015 22: 00 New
          -1
          Quote: Homo
          Are you talking about attack aircraft or bombers?


          Истребители рисовали звезды ,когда сбивали самолеты противника.насчет бомбардировщиков и штурмовиков точно не помню что рисовали.Хотя точно помню что,в детстве смотрел прекасный фильм "Торпедоносцы".Там помоему был разговор о том,что когда уничтожали корабли ,тоже рисовали на флюзеляж какой то символ,может быть и звезды.
  28. KG_patriot_last
    KG_patriot_last 6 November 2015 21: 39 New
    +2
    Personally, I consider it a huge mistake to wedge in Aleppo. Now it turns out ISIS and the rest of the militants do not fight among themselves, since the army actually protects some from others by themselves.

    Yes, and a campaign in Palmyra propaganda is worthless. Some justify this by pulling off the enemy. ISIS and so fought simultaneously with the Iraqi army, the Kurds of Iraq, the Kurds of Syria, the Syrian army, the rebels of Syria and al-Qaeda at the same time. There was no need for another front for them.

    First, we would clean out the suburbs of Homs and Damascus and release huge resources for the subsequent attack on Aleppo and Idlib.
    1. alone
      alone 6 November 2015 22: 04 New
      -3
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      Now it turns out ISIS and the rest of the militants do not fight among themselves, since the army actually protects some from others by themselves.

      Only those forces that are subordinate to the SSA are fighting against ISIS. ISIS and Nusra have stopped fighting with each other. Although they are fanatics, they are by no means stupid, realizing that it is impossible to fight both Assad and the inter-squabble at the same time.
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      Personally, I consider it a huge mistake to wedge in Aleppo


      I agree. The army has repeatedly proved that, urban fighting is not his trump card.
      1. atalef
        atalef 6 November 2015 22: 14 New
        -1
        Quote: lonely
        Only those forces subordinate to the SSA are fighting against ISIS

        Yes, the situation now is just such an SSA is fighting with ISIS (which are sometimes bombed by Russian aviation)
        Quote: lonely
        I agree. The army has repeatedly proved that, urban fighting is not his trump card.

        Assad’s army will not climb into the Sunni areas and this is an axiom.
    2. atalef
      atalef 6 November 2015 22: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: KG_patriot_last
      Personally, I consider it a huge mistake to wedge in Aleppo

      And how did you decide to fight? 7 Take the city to starve?
      I’ll even tell you more - the article misleads the people.
      From it you can understand that Assad’s army approached Allepo and wedged into the city and began street fighting.
      So, Assad’s army was always in Allepo (more precisely in its eastern regions), the western ones controlled SSA.
      Therefore, the article is nothing.
    3. padded jacket
      padded jacket 6 November 2015 22: 21 New
      +1
      Бесстрашные Сирийские лётчики.Очень жаль что им приходится летать на таких пусть и хороших и надёжных но "старых" самолётах.
      No wonder the help of our videoconferencing is urgently needed.
  29. Frideric1871
    Frideric1871 6 November 2015 22: 34 New
    +1
    let it come maybe some kind of success will soon give birth, otherwise positional battles for the villages
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 6 November 2015 22: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: Frideric1871
      let it come maybe some kind of success will soon give birth, otherwise positional battles for the villages

      Yes, the process of attack is normal, and fighting for the villages is also normal - Syria is basically an agrarian country where most of the population lives either in villages or in small so-called towns.
  30. LEVIAFAN
    LEVIAFAN 6 November 2015 22: 48 New
    0
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Seen from Allepo

    notice that the Arabs shoot in short bursts. and who taught them? right.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 6 November 2015 22: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: LEVIAFAN
      notice that the Arabs shoot in short bursts. and who taught them?

      This video I still laid out yesterday, it’s not the Syrians, it’s the Hezbollah fighters.
  31. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 7 November 2015 00: 47 New
    0
    Quote: miru mir
    I think you are wrong about Iran - they support Assad a priori hi


    Honestly, it’s not interesting to discuss the opinions of people about the country who saw it only on TV and maybe even on the map.
    But I’ll answer about Iran and Assad.

    Iran does not support Assad; it supports in Assad the awareness of the need to keep people around Iran at its key posts and at key posts. The calculation is simple, let Assad depend on us for now, and then, on occasion, our people will replace it.
    So there is no priori visible here. Iran plays its game and everyone else is needed only for its goals and within the framework of these goals, by the way, Russia too. This is especially clear now. Not a big nuance here is only with Hezbollah.
    1. miru mir
      miru mir 7 November 2015 09: 47 New
      0
      Dear, many Russians who comment here, say, Israel will not find on the map laughing And read komenty-so it seems everyone-a storehouse of wisdom and in the Middle East have grown.
      But in fact, you agree with my point of view, only expressed it in your own way.
  32. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 7 November 2015 00: 59 New
    0
    Quote: atalef
    Western controlled SSA


    Yes sir. You would have deciphered what the CCA means and where it came from and much more would have been clarified.
    1. atalef
      atalef 7 November 2015 13: 55 New
      0
      Quote: Abrekkos
      Quote: atalef
      Western controlled SSA


      Yes sir. You would have deciphered what the CCA means and where it came from and much more would have been clarified.

      Syrian Free Army
      - mainly consists of deserters from the Syrian army. Muslims are Sunnis. As a rule, servicemen of infantry units (mechanized, artillery, and even less so in the air force) Sunnis practically did not fall.
  33. Support
    Support 7 November 2015 03: 49 New
    +2
    padded jacket - judging by the fact that you wrote the truth about the Jews and Palestine (about the forceful seizure of the homeland of the Palestinians and the constant hostilities against the Palestinians), and you were sharply bombarded - a lot of tips like in the echo (and the like) are sitting on the VO forum and it’s true for them like a sickle in soft places .... But power is in truth .....
    1. miru mir
      miru mir 7 November 2015 13: 00 New
      -4
      And the fact that the quilted jacket-mahmud is lying in every word of his cheap Islamic propaganda, and therefore cons, doesn’t occur to you? fool
  34. faterdom
    faterdom 7 November 2015 18: 24 New
    +3
    Просто не стоит ожидать чудес невозможных - всего месяц назад было: "дни Асада сочтены..." - причем не фигура речи, а вполне на то время объективная оценка. Он, конечно, не глупожадный трус янукович, и люди, оставшиеся ему верными - до конца будут биться, но четыре года войны вымотали все ресурсы, как материально-финансовые, так и людские.
    И вот, непрерывная работа одного полка ( к количеству) российских ВВС "дни Асада" переводит в плоскость "полугодий, и то, с учетом добровольности. А от напряжения трещит уже кошель вложившихся в быстрое и непыльное дельце в 11-м году "друзей Сирии"...
    Территория, контролируемая Асадом понемногу, но ежедневно ширится, "партнеры" вдруг захотели о чем-то разговаривать, даже со странами "оси зла", как Иран, и, самое главное - имидж сампровозглашенных демиургов стремительно тускнеет, а он и есть самое ценное, что у них есть из активов.
    So, for a month of work - a good result. From Stalingrad until May 45, two and a half years passed, but the moods on both sides changed a lot, and the results, albeit distant ones, were outlined.
  35. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 7 November 2015 20: 36 New
    0
    Quote: faterdom
    Just don't expect miracles of the impossible
    So, for a month of work - a good result. From Stalingrad until May 45th, for more than two years, it ran through.


    Agreed miracles should not be expected ...

    But with Stalingrad you are enough! From Stalingrad to Berlin ~ 2 thousand km. and from Damascus to Jobar and 3 km is not typed. And he seems to be surrounded and fighting is not clear what. And at a pace of 2000 km in three years, they should have long cleared Jobar and so on everywhere. Well, there is no front because Assad is not dealing with an enemy army but with a popular uprising.
    The noticeable successes of the Assad army are actually only on TV. So far, all at level 3 villages have taken and two lost. So you can fight another 20 years.
    In fact, taking advantage of the respite, they are trying to form several combat-ready units and throw them in decisive directions, after achieving serious goals, replace them with their usual units capable of only defending in good positions. And to replenish these combat-ready units and transfer them to a new breakthrough direction, etc.

    At least that was the plan a month and 2 weeks ago. Actually, the units should have been ready for the start of our operation. But these parts have not yet been formed. Two weeks ago, they did not even decide where to base them. What I don’t know now. I hope that there is progress.

    The only possible goal for the videoconferencing is to weaken the offensive capabilities of the opponents of Assad - primarily the SSA and ISIS.
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  37. faterdom
    faterdom 7 November 2015 22: 47 New
    +4
    Assad does not deal with the enemy army but with a popular uprising

    Not only, and not so much, but with half-open and undisguised aggression of the whole West + Israel, Turkey, KSA and Qatar. Here the Kurds are a national liberation movement in its pure uncluttered form, and it is aimed at crystallizing its own Kurdish state (and for now at least autonomy), but to the detriment of Turkey, Iraq and Syria. But at the moment, as far as I know, the Kurds are not fighting Assad. And against ISIS Wahhabi fascists.
    And the rebellion of the Arabs against the Arabs for the money of other Arabs, the CIA and Israel - what is so popular?
  38. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 8 November 2015 12: 48 New
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: Abrekkos
    Quote: atalef
    Western controlled SSA


    Yes sir. You would have deciphered what the CCA means and where it came from and much more would have been clarified.

    Syrian Free Army
    - mainly consists of deserters from the Syrian army. Muslims are Sunnis. As a rule, servicemen of infantry units (mechanized, artillery, and even less so in the air force) Sunnis practically did not fall.


    Дизертиров это мягко говоря не точно сказано! Дезертир это когда перебежали один или несколько солдат. Мне приходилось наблюдать как это "дезертирство" в 2013 происходило. Просто одна часть (точнее даже участок фронта) развернула оружие в противоположном направлении. Вместе с несколькими танками, пушками и всем всем.
    They found out about this because a bus arrived from this part with 10-15 military men (with personal weapons, by the way) and they said there they went to the shaitans. We did not want to, we were put on this bus and sent to you.
    И примечательны диалоги, которые наши пересказывали: "Мохаммед, брат, ты офигел, сволочь? Чем я тебя обидел? Как я теперь от тебя теперь твой же участок прикрою?" А ему видимо ответ: "Ну извини. Сам понимашь... И не парься мы еще взаимодействия не установили пока тут тихо сидеть будем."
    This is no longer desertion when whole units leave.
  39. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 8 November 2015 13: 02 New
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    Quote: faterdom
    and not so much, but with half-open and undisguised aggression of the whole West + Israel, Turkey, KSA and Qatar.


    Откуда у Вас такая информация что "и не столько"?

    Quote: faterdom
    And the rebellion of the Arabs against the Arabs for the money of other Arabs, the CIA and Israel - what is so popular?


    The only popular thing is that this is an uprising of 50-60% of the population against 10-15% (of the ruling clan). That is why, to the teeth, the armed ruling clan could not suppress somehow armed gangs. And the supply of weapons began when Assad no longer controlled the sex of the country. And so far, these supplies for the rebels are a drop in the ocean of captured and improvised weapons.
    And foreigners practically exist only in ISIS, but ISIS itself appeared in Syria only when Assad lost control of most of Syria.

    Но главная проблема в том, что из всех этих "повстанцев" более менее цивилизованной и договороспособной является только ССА. В это м не только наша проблема но и Американская - помогать то некому. Страшно оружие прочим давать.
    1. poquello
      poquello 8 November 2015 13: 39 New
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      Quote: Abrekkos
      Quote: faterdom
      and not so much, but with half-open and undisguised aggression of the whole West + Israel, Turkey, KSA and Qatar.


      Откуда у Вас такая информация что "и не столько"?

      Quote: faterdom
      And the rebellion of the Arabs against the Arabs for the money of other Arabs, the CIA and Israel - what is so popular?


      The only popular thing is that this is an uprising of 50-60% of the population against 10-15% (of the ruling clan). That is why, to the teeth, the armed ruling clan could not suppress somehow armed gangs. ...

      How armed are those parts of the army that were sold to the CIA?
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  40. Balagan
    Balagan 8 November 2015 14: 46 New
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    So, it seems, a radical change has come in the Great Syrian War.
  41. Bator
    Bator 8 November 2015 14: 58 New
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    IS is a project of the USA. Their brainchild
  42. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 8 November 2015 15: 37 New
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    Quote: poquello
    How armed are those parts of the army that were sold to the CIA?


    Не знаю как вооружены "вооруженные ЦРУ". Я таких не видел и о них ничего не слышал. А если бы о них кто-то что то там услышал то их совместными усилиями всех воюющих друг с другом сторон быстро бы перебили. Если такие и есть как организованная сила то их очень мало и сидят они тихо. Все усилия америкосов тут уходят сразу в песок. Да и не преувеличивайте вклад американцев - они элементарно жадные. Они по любому много не дадут. Скорее удавятся.

    А ССА и всякие там Нусры вооружены чем попало. Примерно 50% старое советское оружие взятое у сирийской армии. 30% - самоделки типа гранатометов из водопроводных труб и автомобилей бронированных "сковородками" а остальное, что бог послал от охотничьих карабинов до американских станковых пулеметов. Унификации по подразделениям никакой кто-что достал и к чему боеприпасы нашли тем и воюет.
    ISIS say the proportion has been shifted towards the American, apparently captured in Iraq, but due to the fact that they are ready to maintain the combat readiness of the American where it can already be washed from them. With NATO-style ammunition, they are tight.
    1. Red pedro
      Red pedro 8 November 2015 20: 08 New
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      The militants are very well armed. Where it really is needed. There are sniper systems and anti-tank systems. I think they have intelligence tools.
  43. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 8 November 2015 16: 04 New
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    Quote: Will
    Refugees from Syria to Europe


    Are there many among the refugees who flee to Syrian Europe? I doubt anyone, however.
    Escape from Syria is now worse than staying. The main wave of refugees from Syria in 2012-13 was mainly in Turkey, and among them there are many Kurds who usually do not run far.
    Something seems to me that there is more likely from Libya and other countries where democratization has already passed.
    Просто, чтобы представить, что все дело в Сирии все говоря о "беженцах из Сирии и ближнего востока".
    Although I don’t know for sure, it seems to me like that.
  44. faterdom
    faterdom 8 November 2015 17: 34 New
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    Quote: Abrekkos
    The people's only thing is that this is an uprising of 50-60% of the population against 10-15% (of the ruling clan)
    This is what thermometer measured? And the whole of us. points with their heads cut off - are they also against Assad? In absentia, so to speak ... No need to shine with numbers on such a muddy issue, because we will not believe anyway.
  45. Red pedro
    Red pedro 8 November 2015 20: 04 New
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    Quote: Observer2014
    Сирийцам бы "терминатор" и т72 тюнингованный под уличные бои. Хоть по сотне.

    And these deer will pierce them on the first day of exploitation. And other deer will be transported to amer for study. If you supply only obsolete junk. And then we export equipment several times better than it is in service.
  46. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 8 November 2015 20: 25 New
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    Quote: Abrekkos
    Но главная проблема в том, что из всех этих "повстанцев" более менее цивилизованной и договороспособной является только ССА. В это м не только наша проблема но и Американская - помогать то некому. Страшно оружие прочим давать.

    Для начала якобы гражданской войны пропаганда проамериканских БВ стран(Кувейт, ОАЭи т.д.) в тесном контакте с разведками Израиля,Турции, СГА посеяла религиозную вражду народа Сирии. Затем провела своих ставленников на посты управления в армии. затем спровоцировали выступления самых малограмотных, а это сельские районы страны, на почве религиозной неприязни и причиненных обид в быту. После чего и пришлось Ассаду-старшему применить силу, дабы предотвратить распад стрены на анклавы, управляемые извне. Ну а дальше уже понеслась, возможно и гражданская война с поддержкой одной из сторон и боевиками, и оружием. Вот так мне видится гражданский конфликт в Сирии, т.е. он был инспирирован снаружи. Сегодняшний пример - Укрохохляндия! А противопоставление в Сирии разных религиозных течений - это излюбленное оружие желающих завоевать страну руками самих граждан этой страны!это их(оккупантов) разновидность лозунга - "разделяй и властвуй". hi
  47. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 9 November 2015 13: 27 New
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    Quote: faterdom
    This is what thermometer measured?


    Yes, here what a thermometer do not measure less will not work.
    Like it or not, the Sunite population (~ 70%) is not enthusiastic about the fact that they are ruled mainly only by the Alawites (of which 12–13% in Syria).

    Here he likes, he doesn’t want to split on religious grounds.